Why I Think Discussion Around Star Citizen Feels Different Now

[@SpaceTomato]

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[@FunkThompson]

I still say "scam" is not at all the right word for this, but you can't blame some of those angry over how long it has all taken, vs. initial promises / expectations. I, however, am excited and mostly happy with things.

[@SpaceTomato]

I totally understand being unhappy about the time taken

[@goji059]

i however am still waiting on that SQ.42 slice that was to be shown at citcon Austin in 2018....so......lol

[@FunkThompson]

@@goji059 They had a MASSIVE presentation and such last year. I am more than satisfied with the news on the SQ42 game itself, we'll see here this weekend where things stand.

[@LeoLau-ip9bv]

@@FunkThompson hmm (:

[@JohnDoe-wd8rs]

This game is definitely a scam, same as Apple destroying old phones with their batteries

[@SpaceTomato]

Also, that title is tongue-in-cheek clickbait humor. #4 won't actually blow your mind.

[@yashik]

clickbait humor title is ok... but CIG is not ok... they can fool me once, shame on them, fool me twice shame on me, fool someone for 12 years straight by saying this year feels different, those people shouldn't have right to vote and should be proclaimed for mentally disabled since even casual simping has it's own limits and since there are no serious consequences and headrolling for failures we've seen over those many years current state of game is outrageous, also NigtRider-CIG should be sued for surpressing free speach and abusing his mod powers

[@zaughk]

@@SpaceTomato you should have said #6 will blow your mind so you farm the "UH THERE'S ONLY 5?!" engagement

[@LeoLau-ip9bv]

@@zaughk (: lol

[@ablazedguy]

Very funny, unsubscribed..

[@SpaceTomato]

@@ablazedguy

[@TheCrab90000]

First members video for me thanks to Frechie!

[@SpaceTomato]

Thanks for giving them a go! Make sure to check out the backlog! 🙏🏾

[@aumaar]

Thank you for this video. Personally I am looking forward to all of these changes coming in 3.23, but I still think the holy grail of server meshing is the final major tech part that is needed to solidify this game into something truly exceptional.

[@goji059]

more kool-aid perhaps, your glass looks empty

[@spustatu]

This video is actually my first time hearing the Henry Cavill is in SQ42. How did I miss that one until now?

[@SpaceTomato]

They haven't been very loud about his inclusion

[@spustatu]

@@SpaceTomato Well, that's weird. Not just another big name, but a big name that's also a gamer. I like that.

[@Damiv]

Such optimism over minor improvements. Meanwhile the Endeavor I bought almost a decade ago won’t even be started getting built for another decade.

[@metalrain300]

these aren't minor improvements, you are being resentful because a ship you got still hasn't come out yet. I'm still waiting on multiple ships myself, but instead on focusing on that I'm more focused on what's coming and how it will impact the game. i hope your ship comes soon though.

[@coldshock5181]

That's why you don't buy something for what its meant to be in the future

[@Damiv]

@@coldshock5181 No video game ever made has had “the future” mean twenty years. It’s insane, and ridiculous to try and even defend that.

[@Damiv]

@@metalrain300 The only thing that we might see in the next year that’s not a minor improvement is server meshing. Even that will only be a tiny step towards the claim that there will be millions of players in the same “server”. Eve been told “Pyro by end of the year, and not last minute either” every year for four years now. What my main gripe is, is lack of gameplay mechanics and professions. The ships are secondary to that.

[@vagabondprime1691]

Awesome conversation topics, thank you for all you do!

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you, vagabond ❤️

[@Antares-A]

This video has aged like bad milk, just like the 2024 failures of CIG

[@SpaceTomato]

How so?

[@sublimehypocrisy]

Please define feature, because I keep seeing that they're still working on SQ42. Sounds like they lied.

[@SpaceTomato]

I assume feature is like a functional mechanic. So if cutting had some debug function that represented cutting that good technically be considered a feature

[@sublimehypocrisy]

@@SpaceTomato nut they keep working on mechanics

[@damaddmann]

Bro just take a look at the new freight update. Nothing has really worked with the freight update for the vast majority of people with freight elevators being constantly bugged the truth. This game is an unplayable state and anybody that creates content around this game for the most part are just gonna make stuff up for Clickbait titles.

[@CynicalMournings]

​@@damaddmannI've had fun with it... Is there a particular reason you're so bitter?

[@LeoLau-ip9bv]

@@CynicalMournings meh maybe free fly events because thos are always shit lag

[@networknomad5600]

People are still falling through planets and getting merced be elevators. Naw, Star Citizen still ain’t it in 2024.

[@CodeBlue18]

Except for static server meshing and Pyro, all other features/content planned for 2024 that I know of are scheduled for 3.23. Any idea what else we might be getting this year?

[@FeathersMcClaw]

According to CIG, base building among other improvements to 3.23 features. I’m sure there’s more

[@SpaceTomato]

I really don't know! I think 4.0 will be the big delivery, maybe we'll see refining, hacking, or bounty hunting. But only bounty hunting might be something else that falls on this list?

[@CodeBlue18]

@@SpaceTomato I'm hopeful that the big reveal at CitCon will be 4.0 patch at the end of the year, it all depends on what they can do with server meshing in the next 6 months and what other big features will be ready by then. Static SM would be very welcomed with the pre IAE patch, although this iteration would probably not be able to handle 500+ players spawn on the same planet.

[@XeroJin84]

Yeah, so things they have already implemented in SQ42 was delivered, but the hard things specifically for SC didn’t make it. lol

[@Karackal]

The sandworm gameplay demo at Citcon featured cockpit views with clearly indicated "SCM guns" Master Modes. The weather demo featured a Zeus flying through a thunderstorm with no such indicator in the cockpit and a suggested topspeed of 525m/s. I'm unsure what to make of this but I have a gut feeling that we haven't seen everything that Yogi has in store for the flight model yet.

[@SpaceTomato]

Oh my sweet baby Jeuss, the title is a joke lol

[@metalrain300]

i find it funny when people call it a scam. I understand they are frustrated, however development of a game from the ground up isn't easy especially after the game had to switch engines twice. But the only reason it feels long as because of how open they are about their development. GTA 6 has been in the works since about 2014-2015, but we don't see anyone calling it a scam. Final fantasy took 10 years and wasn't called one either. Psychonauts 2 took 16 years to finally release. I think people need to take a step back and take a deep breath and do more research. games call of duty can pump games out because all their assets are already made. they just have to copy and paste everything to make new games. everyone needs to chill and appreciate the fact they are willing to be so open about their development to begin with.

[@JayNut_001]

I just started playing this week again and I have to say, they really improved on a lot of stuff ... and even today with the new MFDs and stuff. Was just out doing some beginners hauling from NB to Tressler, it was really fun and somehow relaxing just doing it in my pace ... it would have been a nice evening if not for the super slow servers, input took at the end 1-2 minutes ... also I just died getting incapacitated while flying out port XD, maybe thats the SC experience? ^^

[@dukeofhazard420]

I absolutely love the care and quality you put into these membership videos! Thank you for your hard work

[@Astro-M0]

New systems and mechanics are cool, but the biggest thing for SURE is gonna be optimizations for FPS and server performance. Would make it seem less like a "test" and more like an actual game 🔥

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Do I still think this game, or games is/are impossible: Yes Do I enjoy watching Citizencon, despite believing it’s impossible, and knowing I’d never have the hardware to play it: YES

[@patches6309]

Will players who bought the game at the very beginning have to buy Sqdn 42 seperately? Or is it included in our original pledges?

[@LykosMenon]

If you're an OG backer, you almost guaranteed have it for free. If you log in to the site and find your OG backers package in your hangar, it should have "Squadron 42 Digital Download" as an item in it. That's your free access to SQ42. If you melted the package to get something else, it may not be there. If that's the case, might be worth seeing how much it would be to melt that and buyback the original backer package from the buyback section then get whatever other thing you have as an upgrade instead.

[@SpaceTomato]

It's included

[@jeffbangle4710]

I agree that it would be ideal for Star Citizen to be ready when Squadron 42 ships. However, *if* Squadron 42 is ready more than 6 months before Star Citizen is, I think it would be a mistake to hold off releasing it. At some point the public perception of a "never going to be finished game" (like Duke Nukem Forever) will become too ingrained into public perception to be fully overcome by marketing and/or good reviews. In fact, if only first few chapters of SQ42 are fully polished, I would advocate shipping those, then ship the follow-on chapters as they become polished.

[@XeroJin84]

lol, SC won’t be ready for years.

[@maddthomas]

I hate the new inventory system, it makes no sense for FPS items. It is such a pain in the ass to go looting NPC's

[@vishus85]

Literally one of the worst I have ever seen. Beyond tedious.

[@Pretender6]

"I Woke Up Piloting the Strongest Starship, so I Became a Space Mercenary", look it up

[@BakedafPotato]

I kinda want us all to tune into Citizen Con just for them to tell us they are working on a plan for the next year and will tell us when it's ready, then just never tell us 😂

[@_Mellowtype]

Cool video as always, thanks Tomato!

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you!

[@Traumglanz]

Every year is SQ42 two years away, but every year it feels more real and close. So every year the stakes feel higher and higher. ;-)

[@intothevoid2046]

I just tried to play again. The PU is in a worse state than it ever was. The amount of work CIG have ahead of them only to make that work which is already there suggests that SC has still a long way to go before we can actually call it a game. And no hype will change that. It never did.

[@malismo]

Thanks for another, superbly produced, exclusive video! Love the content.

[@SpaceTomato]

Thanks for tuning in, M!

[@quarkedupphoton236]

The importance of having servers/shards with larger player counts will mean the difference between an MMO and just multiplayer. Fleet battles, orgs, and interaction in the verse was a vision from the beginning. Players that bought javs, corvettes, large ships, saw the bengal and vanduul kingships, and associated interactive gameloops need crews. Without larger player counts and servers that actually work well, I think the PU will fail and become irrelevant. 4.0 is an inflection point. Another decade of development will be ridiculous.

[@dtm4trix]

I'm a little worried about the financial viability of SC and whether they'll have enough money to actually finish the game. I just read the Inside Gaming article and it has me a little nervous and a tad bit angry about some of the wasted time. Could we have had a good game by now without all the iterations and constant changes? I dunno.

[@damaddmann]

I’m right there with you dude, and I believe everything in that video given my recent experience with star citizen in the last couple of months

[@aguy446]

That article is fake

[@LeoLau-ip9bv]

@@aguy446 few

[@toddsidney]

Thanks for the excellent content! 🍅

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you!

[@ScottZupek]

Server Meshing "Working" is a a bit crazy. Because it didn't have NPC, didn't have the same inventory system, didn't have missions and multi people never successfully had good working sessions above 425/4 (around 125 max per server) and those werent very functional either. This project has been doomed for the same reason since the kickstarter, there isnt enough bandwidth to sync all these items, even with their version of server meshing. TECH DEMO.

[@neo-zl2dw]

holy moly i cant wait for citcon

[@Mikalent]

For the most part, I do ignore the people who yell scam. You have your entrance fee of $40, and that's all you have to spend on the game. I spent more (daddy wants his virtual gunship) but I also view it like purchasing in any game, I ain't gonna see that money again. But, the fairest representation of "is it worth the cost" is a system that I think a lot of people devised, dollars spent vs hours enjoyed (as in ACTUALLY enjoyed, not spent doing boring stuff). For me, per dollar spent, I have to get 1 hour of enjoyment/fun from the game. For $40, I got far more than 40 hours of enjoyment from Star Citizen. Now, my criteria is probably different from others, but you can't deny that the system I use to determine if the game is worth it isn't unfair. As for "you may not even be able to play the game in 5-10 years!" Yeah, but the same can be said for a lot of games, it's rare for a game to be able to keep going after a decade or 2, and we really only remember the truely outstanding ones, like CSGO, TF2, LOL, ect.

[@bar10dr]

Yo Tomato, would be really nice with a 20 minute long "overview" commented video that goes through the best bits of CitizenCon. The problem is that there are so many and long videos that sharing with friends who are not that into SC isn't really a thing because it requires to much investment for them, so a video that highlights the best bits with some good comentary would be amazing.

[@V4VestA]

Space Tomato is the *only* channel I go to for a clean, informative review of Star Citizen’s progress, be that what it may 😅

[@DaPoets]

Fantastic video my friend

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you!

[@tobytoxd]

Great video, i enjoyed it. Thank you!

[@wiggyone]

Great overview of what's going down - appreciate it. :)

[@SpaceTomato]

Thanks for watching!

[@Fix258]

Maan, I am so waiting for your videos about the con, everyone is just posting the pannels right now, I want your take on all this ! ahah

[@theodraws5599]

Everytime I try to have a discussion or state criticism about the game people just start getting personal and start insulting me. Its COMPLETELY logical to say CIG is CASHGRABBING with star citizen, a statement from Tom Henderson (One of the most trusted gaming insider) made a statement and proved EVERYTHING I said correct. Or at least its very likely, CIG is running out of money for star citizen, at least the funded money. Missmanagement has led to alot of confusion inside the company, at the beginning of 2024 100-150 Staff were fired and the list goes on. Idk how blind or ADDICTED you have to be to be fine with just getting new ships in a completely unfinished and broken game, how is it not possible as player to say OKAY FOR FCKING 3 MONTHS NO MORE NEW SHIPS JUST FULL ON FOCUS ON DEVELOPEMENT. If youre not able to play the game for 3 months without having a new ship released bro you should seek serious help, youre addicted and youre the reason why CIG was able to basically just sell ships in a universe simulator which is completely broken. Its completely logical that if a company sees "OH WE CAN JUST SELL SHIPS IT SEEMS THATS ALL OUT PLAYERS WANT" then theyre gonna do that and dont give as much of a fck about the issues of the game. Yes you ship buying addicts are the ones funding the game but at the same time you WERE the reason why the game is still in alpha after 12 years of developement. AND AGAIN CIG RELEASES CARGO HANGARS, A NEW ANTICIPATED FEATURE, THEN CARGO HANGARS BROKE ON ALMOST ALL SHARDS ON ALL SERVERS AND THEY DIDNT EVEN CARE TO FIX IT FOR OVER 30 DAYS!!! A NEW FEATURE!!! That alone tells you the company does not give a sht anymore + CIG has registered a project for a NEW MMO (not Star Citizen) which leads ME to believe theyre gonna drop SC after 4.0 and Squadron 42 release and move onto the new project!

[@theodraws5599]

To be clear im not saying CIG is cashgrabbing but its logical why people think they do!

[@damaddmann]

Dude, you hit the nail on the head. These dudes and Contant creators are seriously brainwashed by this game. I’ve been playing since 2019 often on and I really have got to appoint where I’m just kind of over it which is most of everyone that played this game wherethese people keep going to and cons and they revolve their whole life around is just mind blowing

[@theodraws5599]

@@damaddmann Yeah... sometimes it actually feels like as if they've forgotten what a GAME is...

[@nikolamilisavljevic7389]

Becoming a game? News to me lol.

[@k64firefly03]

Also, what happened to pledged item recovery being discussed at CitizenCon back in June? CIG need their feet held to the fire for this!! No mention of this three days ago nor any mention of NPC crews. Some of ya'll let CIG off the hook far to easily.

[@derjadebaum9159]

3:55 the way SQ 42 is "feature complete" is kind of misleading since its not content complete. Many hope for a "soon ™" release date at this years citizencon. We will see. 4:24 editing in the beggar is quite fitting given this years sales marathon. Engineering: So much work going down the drain for these features. What gameplay is this supposed to be. Of course you have to "take care" of your ship. But what is this supposed to look like, especially with maelstrom? A ship only left with the interiors, but because there is an engineering crew in there, it won't blow up, ever? With the new direction that fights are only supposed to take a few minutes (15?) with engineers now it takes 20 minutes? (thats a gigantic buff of 33%) But taking into account that you could have fighters or other ships filled with crew instead of engineers. Will be quite hard to balance. Its another feature in tier 0 with clunky animations, another source for bugs. That it has been in development for so long doesn't mean anything we see that it doesn'T mean anything. Master Modes: Yea this will change forever to attract as many customers as possible once they have your money. I actually like the newer way with MM, but MM doesn't really fit with engineering. Weird mix that in my opinion is contradicting and one side will end up with the shorter stick. Major FPS Change: The Sim aspect of the game also does not fit to the new MM. MFDs overall are still too "rule of cool" (not functional) and too filled up. 13:15 So you are saying SQ42 and SC will be released at the same time? Thats impossible, at least not if you consider a fair scope and a close timeframe. Unless your agree with the statement of CIG that SC is already released. SC will take at least another 8 years or so. SQ42 as you say is crucial from a financial point of view otherwise SC will be dead, well it is, but thats another topic. Server Meshing the holy grail. That remains to be seen. I don't believe that anymore unless they harshly reduce the scope thus its not star citizen anymore.

[@matthewkinsey9044]

So.....this video just released 50 minutes ago but he keeps mentioning things coming in 3.23??

[@MrMutterbug]

It is a 'member's only' video from earlier in the year

[@SpaceTomato]

This video was released to supporters earlier in the year. It's now been made public

[@MannyCalaveras]

#4 made me poop myself, sir. Top tier content!

[@Leispada]

They need to get it running properly for 1.0, so quite a bit to go

[@glalih]

tldr: might, will, should, is going to, perhaps, could and finally "as promised"

[@SpaceTomato]

You missed "maybe"

[@glalih]

@@SpaceTomato my god... thats a glaring omission. That literally changes everything at this point.... maybe.

[@EveningOfficer]

Came to this video after not being able to play all weekend (30k and stuck in habs). Star Citzen is in worse shape today than when I last played a year ago smh

[@RageKroc888]

Just my opinion but tactically speaking, I hope for their sake I do hope CIG release Squadron 42 within the next three years as I believe doing so will ease the concerns naysayers have and give the backers something to chew on (the proverbial lamb bone tossed to appease feral wolves). I'm sure it will be a true masterpiece once its done, the demo gave me old school Halo 2 and 3 vibes (though obviously much prettier).

[@Spike.SpiegeI]

Love these extra videos!

[@SpaceTomato]

Glad you like them! They are super fun to make.

[@calebdecker8973]

Ah yes here is all the rage filled salty takes i come to tomato for (Its a joke dont kill me)

[@-_Nuke_-]

It finally... FINALLY, feels like CIG has reached a professional level. They have actually made 4 games by now. Star Citizen, then Star Citizen rework - and SQ42 and SQ42 rework... They never released, but it feels like they have learned from their mistakes. What they are doing now, actually makes sense... Having only 5 systems, makes perfect sense... But backers like me, that come from 2012 have also grew up and understand what the _numbers mean_ and, yeah, SQ42 2026 makes sense, I honestly didn't need CIG to tell me that - I knew it already, and quite frankly - it won't hit on 2026, probably around 2027. And 1.0 won't hit until 2030. I'm sorry guys and girls, but this is the truth. You don't want to hear it, that's fine, but its the truth. What you saw in this years citizen con - plus server meshing, AI, animal life and bringing all things to golden standard, and no major bugs - will take up to 2030. AT LEAST! So where does that leave us? I don't know... But its the 1st time in our lives that we actually get to have an ACTUAL scope for the game that is realistic. Obviously NOBODY should give CIG any more money... They are reaching 1 billion - that's about enough. Keep your wallets closed, play other games, and one day we might get 1.0. :)

[@neonsamurai2575]

I think at the moment, the recent updates and the ongoing stance of CIG vs. their community wont help the game at all, in the earlier updates we had hope when a patch came out broken or buggy, but i think most of us are way past that point. The Ignorance of CIG regarding the feedback on Master Modes which most of the old timers just hate and cant get around with the lowered skill requirement for space combat is a bit step into the wrong direction. The Recent Bugged Patches and the state in which they were released, dont help either, the ongoing waste of precious and limited ressources into stuff that comes out broken and/or is openly rejected or just hated by the community are just a few of the many things why people who once had hope for the project are just hating it by now. I've started with Kickstarter and i'm just done with everything they throw at us, the lies, the deceptions, the empty speeches,the broken patches and with the backlog they keep building while adding more and more to the plate everytime they lie again and again. At this point i just hope Sqadron 42 will fail and everything will be over soon.

[@cheesesniper473]

I was always expecting to at least see combat be somewhat realistic, but it seems like they are going the "pound the health bar till they blow up" route. Which is about as arcade as you get. Also don't see how nerfing space combat to the speed of late Korean war jets is a good move. These things should be moving mach 30 easy. Combat in space shouldn't look like a match of rock'em sock'em robots that can move around a bit.

[@frostmain9015]

Are you forgetting that human beings are squishy and can't sustain changes in pitch and yaw at mach 30 without liquefying; much less getting there at a reasonable pace?

[@cheesesniper473]

@@frostmain9015 sorry your concept of space combat is ww2 in space. Actual space combat would take minutes of carefully crafted manuvers to get a split second shot window. Did YOU forget theres no gravity in space and kinetic weapons like a chaingun would spin the craft faster than a top?

[@frostmain9015]

@@cheesesniper473 did you forget that there are ways to counteract rotational force and that we are physiologically limited from ridiculous speeds and changes at those speeds? Yes, longer distances are great but can make for combat that isn’t compelling. You also discount the possibility of running into contact organically that is employing cloaking or running with power below the threshold of your sensors.

[@cheesesniper473]

@@frostmain9015 well im going by the shills telling me "its a space simulator not an mmo", yet it plays like life is feudal in space with world of warplanes attached.

[@SpaceTomato]

Okay I removed the joke hahaha

[@TheJudgeo7]

why are you calling me one of the oldest :D :D come on man... even if it's true.. :)

[@SpaceTomato]

😜

[@Kino_Chroma]

Mastermodes makes me never want to play the game again. that and the flight hud changes, and the sniper glint, and the hash marks when you hit/down/kill someone, and...

[@101Rivo]

I get peoples hype for this after citizen con. But the fact that they’re talking about a 1.0 release. It’s not really around the corner it’s another few years off. They can’t even release the system yet and it’s been 12 years. I think people need to keep the expectations in check because this whole event was a marketing ploy to get people hyped again. For all we know all this stuff is gonna be in the game but when is the real question? What’s the point of all this stuff is going to be another 10 years away?

[@CriminalMindsQuotes]

2024 was supposed to be the year they delivered but they didnt

[@afternoondelight6322]

Most importantly CR wants ti make multiple SQ42.. if that game is a success he will immediately funnel all resources to sequels. Hope and pray its mesiocre ifnyou actually wasnt SC to ever succeed.

[@D1CE579]

3.24.2 live launch has been pretty much unplayable..Not quite as bad as 3.18 but not far off.

[@tilemacro]

"Why I Think Discussion Around Star Citizen Feels Different Now" Cause atm Nothing works in game, and its expected to be a shitshow for the forseable future.

[@k64firefly03]

Players have given hundreds of millions of dollars to CIG and they continue with delays, degraded server performance, pie in the sky its only 2 years away promises, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam. CIG loves to show off their sizzle reels every CitCon then half that stuff is never seen again. Complaining won't do much as CIG does whatever the hell they want. What I'd like to see is a class action lawsuit. CIG and CRobert's finances need to to be investigated. Players are upset and emotional because they've held up their end of the bargain by buying ships and funding this game. In return CRoberts and CIG offer nothing but delays, SQ42 is always 2 years away and 50% of the time the PU is hot garbage. Same o' bunkers, virtually the same old missions. FIrst it was Road to Pyro for 4 years now its Beyond Pyro, rolleyes. Yea sure the swamps and jungles looked amazing. Rain and lightening was stunning but anyone who has been around a few years knows better than to hold their breath waiting for that to appear in the PU. Giving players the ability to build ships from scratch smells like desperation. It used to be 100 systems now 1.0 will only include 5. Also, why is CIG constantly tooting their horn about their game dev tools and how fast they can make planets and assets. Yet the pace at which assets and planets appear in game moves at a glacial pace. CRoberts and CIG knew years ago Pyro needed server meshing and its just now in the early phases of being ready. So why the hell were they promoting Pyro for several years ? That is the B.S. that players are tired of. Lies! Deception! Everyday more lies. Sure I'll put the controller down and relax, in return give me a refund!!!!

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

I still think master modes is dragging the game

[@walawala-fo7ds]

As a long time sc backer. I hope for the commercial failure of squadron 42. Otherwise Chris Roberts will never stop selling Star citizen ships to finance yet another chapter. Squadron 42 is the biggest problem with Star citizen and I just can't wait to see the gaming media shread it to pieces. sorry but this is good for Star citizen. otherwise we'll never get a game for another 20 years.

[@MaLcH10R]

That Is an incredibly dumb take

[@walawala-fo7ds]

@@MaLcH10R I'll drink to your post when the reviews are out. A decade of hype will make cyberpunk's botched launch look good in comparison. I personally can't wait to lol at CIGs reaction. Spectrum is going to be amazingly entertaining 🤣

[@serrethindustries9468]

@@walawala-fo7ds Bro, he's gonna do that either way. The PU and SQ42 are tied together for good. What's bad for one is bad for the other.

[@kingofgamers3659]

Nice video my friend!!

[@cmdrls212]

people are tired of financing Chris Roberts movie while paying for the MMO he refused to prioritize but marketed for a decade.

[@elh0242]

Lol you don't speak for others 🤡

[@cmdrls212]

@@elh0242 Cope bro.

[@XeroJin84]

@@elh0242 lol, keep saying that after a few years, SC is still going to be in development for at least the next 5-10 years while they keep adding new ships to take your money.

[@Cblan1224]

I could say the exact opposite, and act like I speak for everyone. The fact is, that sq42 is what brought many people in. I am very glad they are dedicating resources to it. It will fund sc for a long time. SC doesn't get into the mainstream without squadron. I'd rather them shut down star citizen for 6-12 months to make some real progress, but the bottom line is that people are here for sq42. I understand that people playing star citizen have been there for the long haul, but let's not kid ourselves..there aren't enough tech nerds like me out there to make the game successful. Star citizen is entirely dependent on breaking into the mainstream, via sq42.

[@XeroJin84]

@@Cblan1224 if it’s even a good or fun game. You don’t even know that yet. It can flop like many other titles.

[@toddosman9439]

How about fix the damn servers....I'm amazed anyone believes anything these people say.

[@SpaceTomato]

Not following the server meshing development, eh?

[@Pharesm]

# 1 too many fraudulent JPEG sales! And we know who is the slimey one!

[@goji059]

what's different? the worlds greatest grifter will stand up and promise the moon, deliver on none it, rake in another 100 mill from the suckers, and do the exact same thing next year

[@SpaceTomato]

Wea ctually have 12 moons.

[@irishlostboy]

So, as of you releasing this video on KZbin, Citizencon has been going on, and for the same 2 days, the servers have been "Seriously degraded" (read unplayably broken). A perfect illustration of the copium-world of CIG/RSI, and the reality of the product. While the CIG/RSI nerds perform a gigantic public circle jerk, the fundamentals of the game are just as, if not more so, broken as they were 3-5 years ago. Literally everything you talk about in this video utterly fail to match any objectively real experience of actually playing the "game". This is an endless daydream of what "could" be in the future, but looking at the track record of CIG/RSI, simply will substantially fail to deliver. But hey, I feel bad for you, as your entire existence on the internet is wrapped up in this game, and it is just tragic to see someone's identity so inexorably tied to a product that they have no control over. That being said, your tactic of, "people called me on my BS, so I claim it is a joke," that you are doing in the comments, Most people learned to see through that in middle school.

[@Vicquin_]

Still getting stuck in an elevator in 2024. SC ain’t it.

[@Aboloft]

Use an ssd

[@xiuhtezcatl8161]

dead scam nowhere to go nerfing everything new after few months you bought it, lie all the time, paying streamers to lie. its SCAM

[@SpaceTomato]

They just buffed ships though, what will we do! Also, can you put me in touch with where ever I need to go to get paid? That'd be useful. Other wise, it's people like yourself who pay me :P

[@scott1506]

new hud system is kinda shit

[@Sheppardsg1]

love it this plus gameglas

[@solidfox6774]

Jesus Tech 😂 🤣

[@SpaceTomato]

Holy Spirit Tech

[@solidfox6774]

@@SpaceTomato thanks for the content, always appreciated

[@MandoRick1978]

Clickbait title, not impressed with the content. You sound like all those Star Citizen super fans that came before, they all drank the coolaid, and years later they woke up. Oh and faboys, don't bother trying to flame me, I have been around SC for a decade and I have seen and heard all your crap.

[@SpaceTomato]

Dude. did you not see that the title is a joke?

[@damaddmann]

Yeah, I’m gonna go ahead and hit that on. Follow and do not recommend but button

[@damaddmann]

I’m to a point where I just wanna unfollow your channel, this game is a shit show right now I played every form of the PTU and I was not surprised when I ran into a ton of issues trying to play the live update, fanboys of this game annoy me now and days and I used to be one of them, but people really need to wake up

[@MrAbram94]

Insider gaming, Tom Henderson Read his article on SC Please upvote, everyone should read this!

[@clivedamagedgoods]

I understand you wanting to keep content exclusive for your paying customers but seriously, six months out of date for Star Citizen? That's effectively worthless to everyone. You may as well not bother.

[@SpaceTomato]

How is this video out of date?

[@SpaceTomato]

Any videos that are time sensitive I try to release in better time. But to be honest, NONE of these videos ever take the place of a normal video, it's EXTRA content. I don't see why I shouldn't bother if some people still want the extra content at the end of the day.

[@1kalagen123]

I don’t find this worthless, when watching the video there is a lot that I’m reminded about from the last Citcon. This is a great primer for those who want a refresher of what we’re still expecting, even if it won’t be talked about during the event. Even if we forget about Citcon altogether and just examine the video, its main topics haven’t changed. It still sets the stage for why 2024 has had a change in tone for player discussions. What we’re missing and expecting from the game for 4.0 and beyond. Circling back to Citcon though, I’d appreciate a follow-up video to this after the Star Citizen 1.0 discussion. See how many of the talking points in the video are in-line with the games future, and see what CIG has decided to change. Which talking points do you feel are out of date? The video was made during 3.23 and the only major change between then and now was cargo elevators (which wasn’t a talking point in this video)

[@OGShively]

He kept pace with CIG's rate of content delivery this year, in my estimation.