Star Citizen: Stalker VS Hawk - Bounty hunters

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[@jonahhekmatyar]

I gotta go to sleep, but I'm glad to see you back. I'll be back to finish this

[@comatosen5133]

using a liberator filled with stalkers & hawks and its cargo bays repurposed for containment would be an insane prison ship for a couple of dudes being bounty hunters

[@RayneAngelus]

Good to see you again, sir. The long hiatus had me worried.

[@matthewami]

I would love to see you revisit the hawk after 3.18

[@FreeFragUK]

I'm sorely tempted by the Hawk but at the moment the gameplay loop it's intended for is in need of further development. The same goes for the Stalker (and the Cutlass Blue) and it extends pretty much every loop going. The Hawk is high on my list but I'm of the inclination to wait for the profession to see a decent pass over. While the Stalker has a bigger cargo capacity, it simply hasn't won my heart like the Hawk has. As it stands the profession is limited to kill orders. Hopefully this changes in future but for a straight up kill order I suspect that players will look at the alternative offerings. As a side note, I'd love to see a rework of controls in Star Citizen to allow for better management of fire groups and utility items such as EMP's and Quantum Dampers.

[@vahnn0]

Damn dude, I just finished this video. I think it's the first video of yours I've ever seen, and I have to say this is the most comprehensive look at, and insightful comparison of, ships I've ever seen in a SC video. Nice work!

[@parkerxgps8101]

Simply the highest quality star citizen content. Always worth the wait for your production quality game videos. You make the Verse better.

[@aBANDIT.]

the way you described the hawk imobalising ships mad me think it might just be a great pirate ship as long as you have a well armed friend

[@AJ-em2rb]

yo... a 600i-sized bounty barge with a hawk as a snub would be siiiick!

[@danmoore5957]

Yea something like a multi role gunboat with a hanger would be perfect, even more so if its drake or anvil style.

[@50crowley]

@@danmoore5957 Drake Kraken with 4 Hawks and 2 Vanguard Sentinels on the pads and an after-market space prison in the cargo hold. Shut up and take my money.

[@theforgedone]

The prison barge idea is really cool! I hope they do something like that.

[@richardforsman]

Would be cool if the Carrack hangar could fit either one of these and have one of the modules work as a prison containment. At least these can land in the Hangar even if not carried.

[@lystic9392]

890 jump luxury prison.

[@fourfoxgaming]

This was a great video! Dude. You go Into so much detail and have so much extra information and content. I feel like this is one of the top videos you've made

[@chrictonj9503]

Ship modularity was a kickstarter goal that was met a looooong time ago. It is irksome to me as well that CIG appears to be conveniently forgetting about this. But the project isn't done yet and there is still time and room to deliver ship modularity. I'd also like to know why the Cutlass Blue prisoner pods are so much larger than the Stalker pods.

[@therealtjpek]

Cause the cutlass isn't specifically built for bounty hunting. The blue version had the same pods as the caterpillar prisoner transport. They're basically made to be put on cargo bays, but are bigger and take up more space

[@vexandhexz]

Right around the time you mentioned the advent of prison barges and bounty hunter orgs my mind went straight to the Trandoshan hunters we in saw in The Clone Wars

[@lyken8780]

I haven’t really had time to watch long videos but I still wanted to stopped by, drop a like and save this to watch later because I just love watching this series man. Appreciate what you do!

[@guywholikesplanes]

Whenerver I get angy that they don't say a word about the Avenger modularity, I feel like an old man yelling "Back in ma' day!" in the town square

[@ReallyDazed]

Really glad to see you upload again. Plenty of content out there and Quarter patches have really shaken up previous norms so revisions are very possible too.

[@Borengar629]

The UEE disolved it’s contract with Aegis and made Anvil it’s primary supplier… as an Anvil fanboy that hurts to hear as both Aegis as well as even RSI provide more military ships than Anvil.

[@Threnody248]

Honestly, for the sole reason that I can take 5 more prisoners in the Stalker than the Hawk AND have an additional bed for logging off (instead of just one place to both store a single prisoner or log off) I gotta pick the Stalker as my primary.

[@hoodlumX25]

I've read the Super Hornet can be used for bounties in the future by turning the second seat into a prisoner one.

[@rahlap2449]

Afaik that is only speculation. But it would be a really neat to have.

[@WookieeRage]

Glad to see a new video from you! Thank you for the lengthy comparison. I have a Hawk which requires me to improve my dog fighting more than most ships, but I like it.

[@black2burn211]

Yessssss He's back! Great video. I have the hawk and, though it's paper-thin, I love it's design

[@tirechasershouston5537]

23:21 Yes! I'm 100% in agreement. And when I first saw that MOLE with its 16 bags, I calculate that a modified MOLE was capable of transporting 128 prisoner pods. I had dreams of owning a fleet of these prisoner transport barges that would travel at intervals in a circuitous route around the Stanton system, picking up captured prisoners that had been deposited at my outpost bounty holding stations. Risk/reward gameplay at its most intense, if outlaws can sneak past my stealth fighter or hammerhead escorts.

[@rahlap2449]

The only thing I dont get about the Hawk is its rediciously slow roll speed of 135 d/s... that makes no sense to me considering all the other numbers are quite high (speed, max speed, pitch, yaw). Even the base Hornet variants and the Glaive/Scythe have a faster roll.

[@warrenmckenzie7379]

Love the idea of a prison barge, hope CIG watches this and picks it up. Enjoy your stuff dude, detailed, informative. Well done

[@VulpesChama]

It's always nice to hear your voice. No, really, it really is.

[@shizniticus]

I really enjoyed your video. They're informative and factual with a touch of lore built in. A very nice twist. You definitely have your own style. That being said, I get the same feeling from watching your videos that I do while visiting a museum. Beautiful scenery, relaxing if not a bit too static. Your channel, your style, it's great and relaxing as-is, but I personally think your videos would benefit with a few animated/action sequences peppered in here and there. Keep up the good work. Liked and subbed.

[@OgLockpin]

You've been missed. Happy to see more content from you. Well done.

[@thahoasje]

Small addition: the stalker can be made into quite an effective stealth ship, rivalling a stealth fitted sabre in that regard. Doesnt work for the hawk, since the EMP draws alot of power.

[@Thebensupremacy]

but u can just turn the emp off

[@abadmotherfunker4672]

Glad to hear your voice again.

[@TheLordDeliverence]

For solo bounty hunting, I'd also throw in the Super Hornet, since the second seat can be used as a lock down seat for bounty's.

[@feral1021]

Your videos are great. I hope they implement the prison barge concept, it makes complete sense. Also, I can imagine missions of freeing a prisoner from said barge.

[@echo5827]

Price of freedom mission that's exactly what you do

[@jetstumpy]

Gotta say this is a really good video, I like the in depth and longform nature. Most ship guides are just 10 minute quickies. If I didn't already have a Cutty Blue, you'd have convinced me to get a Stalker.

[@michaelanderson6627]

love this walkthrough of both ships and the comparison, I love the hawk, but didn't realize how versatile the Stalker is...

[@CouldntCareLess88]

I love the unique design that the Hawk has.

[@sarugbyfan8134]

*has

[@willismiller7035]

I wanna see this channel blow up! Great videos, man. Keep it up!

[@Alex-uw5pk]

Law, you're back!! Hell yeah man, have missed your videos!

[@The_Real_WildMonkeyDog]

Glad to see you back, especially with such a good video. Now specifically about this video. I love my Hawk. A few upgrades and it's just a blast to fight in, but honestly, there's just something about that Chunky folding bird that I can't get enough of.

[@lemonycricket3286]

cup of coffee, 4k, sit back and relax to your smooth commenting style. great way to start a weekend!

[@rolanders7553]

Great vid makes me think about using the hawk I have from pack was thinking of upgrading it

[@dustinb1124]

I'm looking forward to you covering other ships. I prefer your voice and method over others who are producing more current reviews. Keep up the good work.

[@An_introverts_retreat]

This is the way...you make an informative video :)

[@kallistnemain2343]

Good to have you back Law. Great video as always.

[@Alphascrub_77]

To be completely honest I expect a few things to happen. For one, when the bounty hunting improvements hit next year if they do we are going to see a few things happen. Bounty Hunter ship rebalance. Bounty Hunter starter packs and prof of concept on the missions. I wouldn't buy either of these ships right now based on what they might do. Just on what they do. Operating under that premise I would get the hawk. Mainly because it looks cool. Stalker outside isnt bad but to be honest the crud covered cockpit of the stalker is meh for me. Also at the moment the insides of the I just feel like the Hawk looks more sleek. What I mean to say is the Hawk has a niche. Its emp and double light fuel tank give it range. It also while lacking missiles has a very decent hardpoint layout for weapons. It can operate alone or in a group and shine in both scenarios. The stalker on the other hand has kind of weird roll. Its weapons and combat speed are decent but it overall for a multi bounty transport I just dont see why you would pick it over the cutlass blue. The blue has better shields, bigger guns, more missiles, a turret, more interior space, better shielding, longer range, and even with prison pods from what we can see of dimension it might even be able to support light ground vehicles without completely blocking your prisoner bay. I understand the stalker is much cheaper but honestly for the roll it fills I I feel like the cutty blue does it all better. I think the stalker will get an overhaul to his interior eventually. Its and older ship and doesn't have the new building blocks ui in the cockpit to my knowledge. Also like stated above I really do think we are probably going to see some sleek new ship when the bounty hunting missions get their overhaul. CIG isn't dumb and bounty hunting seams to be something they want to dip into early. Its interesting, fun, and who doesn't want to run around cosplaying like mando (I can hear the "This is they way" and "I have spoken" already). The point is this is probably going to be something they use to really draw people in so expect them to have ships and packages to benefit from that draw. Also CIG we gonna need that uh... Well I'm not sure what its called but that big ole rife mando runs around with... yea... we need that. You know, the one that just leaves smoking clothing behind? That one. It also apparently has a stun feature. Perfect.

[@markusvalentini438]

Agreed! And i'd like also to add that, while the Stalker has already gone trough one major overhaul, the Hawk hasn't changed since it's launch in 2017, so it will see it's overhaul most probably near the bounty hunting patch.

[@HapitokP]

We missed you LAW, glad to have you back finally

[@serrethindustries9468]

Been waiting for another vid. Welcome back, man!

[@ClarkH7]

Glad to see another video from you!

[@Overallghost]

I know this is 2 years late. But after market cryo pods could effectively create a prison barge. Like put a bunch in a c2

[@Apollo-tj1vm]

Bounty Hunting is a complicated profession, wouldn't you agree?

[@Mp57navy]

Are there bounties to be hunted?

[@btr003]

@@Mp57navy there are

[@drewflatt]

Great video Law, nice to have you back!

[@MultiMonitor]

"Fixed to fixed or gimbaled to gimbaled the Stalker can do more DPS" This was unexpected.

[@immutablecantrip]

you're back!!! hope you're safe and well, sir.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

Thanks, it feels good to be back!

[@codeman-xm5yb]

Yay!!! He's back!!

[@Icarus_789]

the hawk feels more like a light support fighter than a bounty hunter ship in my opinion. The hawk feels to have a shorter range not by fuel but by lack of interior storage that allows a place to eat/drink(the stalker you can sit on the bed to eat) and sleep. Nice vid, these are some of my fav vids. keep it up.

[@programmedgamer7101]

Let's not forget the smaller bay for prisoners. The Avenger is definitely meant to be a much heavier fighter compared to the Hawk. Meanwhile, the hawk is almost a high value hunter with emp and one bay for prisoners.

[@Icarus_789]

@@programmedgamer7101 hopefully when bounty hunter gameplay is completed that it can show the strengths and weaknesses better. Currently I favor the stalker as it can do a bit more(box missions, has missiles). I think the hawk is a nice ship but to me it doesn't feel like a bounty hunter ship.

[@thanethanh6405]

The commentary is so detailed and correct! Looking forward to more from you!

[@Drag0nEldeR]

Great video! loved the detail - want the Hawk for my Mando now

[@Suprinity]

Great job with the cinematics on this video. Great info too.

[@iamruark]

I really appreciate the ultawide vods! Do you have any vids/guides for your software setup?

[@deltaecho2621]

Great vid Law, love all the piles of “bounty”. Especially the twitchy one.

[@dragonknightadam]

Having had the avenger for ages I wish I still had the default sucker punch canons and modular rear bay

[@ShaozenSC]

nice to see you drop a video 👍great work as always

[@ericwollaston5654]

Good to see you back in action!

[@zat132]

Always fun to cool off and do some bounty hunting in the verse

[@Eneov]

Glad to see you back at it mate.

[@LunarLizard]

This video gave me some ideas on how to load out my cutty blue

[@slyderace]

This review was awesome! At first, I thought of getting the Stalker but I may go with the Hawk instead, due the default loadout and the EMP :) Going back and forth after each bounty would be a pain in the ass, but still a lot less than losing a ship full of bounties! :P

[@legobuildingsrewiew7538]

You can always go back after 3 bounties and choose for yourself. This guy didnt think much about this video he made.

[@loadmastermoe]

Not related to the video but what are your thoughts on the crucible? Can't decided between that or the reclaimer. I know opposite ends of the job but not sure how needed a crucible would be outside of just org repairs.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

I personally fell in love with the Crucible way back when it was first put up for sale. The biggest issue that I can see between it and the Reclaimer is that the Salvage mechanics are going to be worked on first and then repair is going to developed some time after that. So as long as we've been waiting for Salvage gameplay we're going to have to wait even longer before the Crucible has any game play functionality.

[@brrt1680]

Yes! Thanks for the upload :)

[@abstract0014]

The Hawk looks very cool

[@serrethindustries9468]

Also, rumors would have us believe that the Polaris is going to have a brig. That makes a lot of sense if you factor in it's small hangar. The Hawk or Stalker could hail for landing and transfer custody from the safety of the sealed hangar. Here's hoping its true.

[@royborgen]

Another great video! Love these!

[@vectieba]

Wow, you put a lot of effort into this vide, good job!

[@nicoc218]

What sort of helmet is that at 1:30 also just subscribed, thank you for the informative videos

[@lawofthewestgaming]

It's the Savior Collection "Nightfire" Paladin helmet.

[@ChrisCDXX]

also I wonder what recharge time on emp is.. if you see the ship. you can just know you have to fire 2 missiles spaced appropriately to account for the first one getting zapped.

[@cooperwestfall4395]

This is the first I've ever heard of the Hawk's weapon rack, and I've looked into the ship a fair bit.

[@markdavidvallino6995]

I prefer Stalker,in my opinion it offers more possibilities as you said.Nice video.

[@Cr4y7-AegisInquisitor]

I want to use the Mercury Star Runner as a bounty hunting ship. Mostly as a transporter, going after planetside bounties. Good scanner, floor view cockpit, bottom turret, vtol, internal space for prison pods ♥️

[@hankravich8495]

THE KING HAS RETURNED

[@huron3871]

Great analysis as always, only thing I can say in criticism is that there are going to (eventually) be two variants for the Hawk. The ShadowHawk being stealth oriented will be verrrrry interesting in my opinion, something of a kidnapping ninja

[@JagHiroshi]

I think that was community speculation. CIG haven't committed to any Hawk variants.

[@slyderace]

I love your ship reviews! I just subbed :D

[@chaadlosan]

Love the ultrawide screen video format for my ultrawide screen monitor. and great video. What kind of computer do you have to make it look this good?

[@lawofthewestgaming]

I actually have a mid range system that I've been pushing the limits as to what it can do. I'm really.....really going to have to upgrade at some point before I end up melting it.

[@jonbuq2418]

I'd love it if the Hawk's landing struts were shortened so it can fit in the Carrack. Of course they'd have to adjust the entry/exit mechanic as well.

[@slev780]

Thanks for the video buddy!

[@WabbitCrouton]

Both LAWoftheWest and STLYoungblood are back! Nice!

[@ethanklee9041]

Plot twist, they are the same person.

[@cric3754]

Prison barge- Seems CIG agrees given the NPC Caterpillar has been modded to fill this role

[@ChrisCDXX]

Is there a real non role play benefit to having a mess hall or place to eat? Does it provide free nutrition or something whereas if you don't have one you have to bring food with you?

[@jonbuq2418]

There are existing ships that, due to built in modularity, would neatly double as a prison barge with the addition of specialised modules: Caterpillar Carrack Retaliator Or with the ability to fit cells into existing cargo grids: Hammerhead Starfarer/Gemini

[@TsvetanVR]

Yup, Caterpillar is already a prisoner transport, even if it's an NPC one (Price of Freedom mission).

[@JagHiroshi]

Just about to go to bed. 1st video I'll watch in the morning :)

[@Dracounguis]

Well obviously the best choice is the more expensive one! 💰. Seriously the Stalker looks like a minivan but that works for it since you can carry more. You could even take 'bounties' on delivery boxes! 😉. The only win I would get to the Hawk is it probably can disable a ship faster / better without blowing it up. Oh and the Hawk let you pretend you're Batman easier. 🦇♂️

[@TheGlassSword]

The hawk is a ship I really want to have because it reminds me abit of the Star Fox ships and the fact I can lose my wings and still fly is pretty crazy I might pick it up later this year

[@JagHiroshi]

Great work and cinematography. I love and chose the Hawk but the beauty of this game is that people have choices. Either are excellent.

[@zhain0]

I wonder what will happen if you can capture a player bounty and just keep them locked up. That would suck for them. I could just keep people offline essentially. I hope once you get into a player ownes prison pod you just end up in actual prison straight away and its just a copy/corpse thing left in the players ship.

[@narojdebeste]

Or maybe they have to deliver you to the prison to claim the bounty

[@zhain0]

@@narojdebesteI found out they have said about maybe being able to choose to stay captured to get out or maybe be rescued by a friend or go straight to prison and have a npc of your character stay with the hunter for the reward. Not sure if that's still the plan. Cant wait to fill up my cutlass blue either way

[@narojdebeste]

@@zhain0 you'll have to catch me first; )

[@zhain0]

@@narojdebeste oh, kinky

[@Cross_111]

Acc to one of the last SC communications you will directly respawn in prison while your „body“ is property of the bounty hunter which receives his rewards when he turns you over That will counter exactly the hostage situation you described right now Think bored gamer made a vid back then about that topic Only point which is not covered when someone „rescues“ you before you are handed over to the authorities

[@heehheheeheheheh1886]

I love your video's, keep it up man

[@SteadyDecline-zc8mp]

What gpu and cpu do you use? Im buying parts for my 1st pc soon :)

[@Jamie-666]

great video, enjoyed watching +10

[@Oritsuru65]

Hey Law, have you ever thought of doing a Vs's between the Arrow and the Gladius? I've seen a few but none of them go into the detail you do and I'd like to hear your thoughts on it :)

[@lawofthewestgaming]

funny thing is that I was working on doing a comparison between those two ships, then stopped after they decided to nerf the Arrows shields. I held off doing any more work on that concept because they were obviously messing around with the Arrow and I wanted to see if those changes were going to end up being permanent or not. So I decided to give it some time to wait and see. I have plans on doing a Gladius VS Blade video first but I might come back to the Arrow VS Gladius idea at some point.

[@dennisthehazarddb1095]

Nice to see you back !!!

[@legendaryryan1623]

amazing shots

[@Atelierwanwan]

Bounty hunting is one of the things I'm most excited about but I have a lot of concerns. Such as people who just go around blowing up parked ships if your target isn't in an armistice zone. How do you move incap targets, is your only option to drag them. I'm hoping they add options to add pods to other ships as I have a Cutlass black. I wonder if land vehicles that can transport incaped people will be available so you can park your ship somewhere safe and bring the target back in a timely manner. I don't know if any of this has already been adressed as I haven't been keeping up with development and this video is oldish.

[@andrewg4412]

drake ships don't use escape pods "win or die"

[@Atelierwanwan]

@@andrewg4412 Funny story about my cutlass. I messed up in a fight against two AI cutlass and I couldn't control my ship anymore. Got out of the seat with all sorts of noise from my hull getting pelted and I jumped out the side door. When my ship blew up the AI turned off basically and just floated there. I floated over to one of their ships and apparently they don't lock their doors so I got in, killed the pilot and shot down the other ship with the now stolen cutlass. Couldn't get the gunner out and game crashed before I could find out if it would fight other people for me. You don't need to win in a straight fight all the time. Also I meant the pods used for holding bounties not escape pods.

[@michygeorg]

Thanks for the ultrawide, good video.