(Star Destroyers Variants) Was this BETTER than the Venator-class?

[@dianavespid937]

The Nimitz Class is longer than the Yamato tho

[@MetaNerdzLore]

Yeah I said that wrong, Yamato is still the longest battleship made right? There's tankers, carriers and cargo ships that are all a lot longer

[@Celebmacil]

@@MetaNerdzLore Iowa class battleships were longer.

[@dianavespid937]

MetaNerdz Lore The Iowa is just a pair of meters longer, but it is okay, I love your size comparison sections ❤️

[@Wyrmshadow]

yeah by about 200ft.

[@Shadx27]

@@MetaNerdzLore Heaviest battleship ever launched. Iowa's were longer for speed purposes. Not sure if they were taller, but Yamato definitely had the weight.

[@igncom1]

Can you imagine an extended clone wars where Victories, Gladiators and Imperator SD's were rolling around in republic colours? That would be cool as hell.

[@doughboidays3039]

George White oh my god yes now they can have a ship with actual offensive capabilities *cough* venator

[@commanderpondscc-4112]

@@doughboidays3039 Ik, but in the clone wars in one of the season 1 episodes the venator had turbo laser batteries on its ventral side, if that was cannon and every venator had a sphat in its bottom hanger they would be forces to be reckoned with

[@doughboidays3039]

No those were specificity modified by general skywalker for the battle of coruscant.

[@commanderpondscc-4112]

@@doughboidays3039 Ik that im just saying if all venators had it as a standard issue weapon they would be a much stronger ship

[@doughboidays3039]

@@commanderpondscc-4112 I mean sure but the venator would also have to expose its underside and line up the shot... also can you imagine the power output that would take... it would be more powerful sure but not necessarily more effective.

[@RaeSyngKane]

Gladiator: *has 26 fighters Langley: I was a converted ship back in 1920 and had 36 planes. Wtf Stormtroopers holding rave in empty hanger: no it’s legitimately all we can fit in here

[@briandavion]

the Langley was a hanger deck and nothing more, Imperial Doctrine tends to favor less fighters and more heavy weapons. it's why the venator was retired after the clone wars. doctrine changes that came out of the victor initative project. A battle comparison would be the Japanese Hybrid Battleship/Carrier Ise. which carried 22-24 aircraft

[@fluets5658]

@@briandavion One of these Star Wars numbers that amuses me is of the Secutor Star Destroyer, which supposedly lacked firepower to carry more TIEs (which as we know, come in large numbers by their nature) despite being even larger than the ISD. What mighty fighter complement does it carry, you ask? 144 TIEs. Just about double that of an ISD, and much less than a Venator, despite being about three times as large and a dedicated carrier (unlike the Venator which leant into a hybrid role quite heavily). Bit of a random rant, I know, but the Secutor's numbers always crack me up.

[@RaeSyngKane]

The Lazy Writer: ehhh 26 seems like a good number of fighters for a capital carrier. MetaNerdz: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

[@90lancaster]

They need a Clown car hanger bay like the USS Discovery has.

[@igncom1]

Maybe 26 squadrons of fighters. At least.

[@robertharris6092]

Not really. You need 100s of fighter if not 1000s in a space battle in the scale you see in star wars

[@XMysticHerox]

@@robertharris6092 Scale in Star Wars is all over the place due to the limitations of how many models you could feasibly make and in newer on screen stuff how much CGI you can do.

[@robertharris6092]

@@XMysticHerox like the battle of coruscant? A battle involving literally 1000s of capital ships alone covering the orbit of an entire planet?

[@Gigas0101]

I'd love to see the inside of a Gladiator class, as I can imagine so many fantastic ways to roughly double the effective hanger space you suggested in this video. Your assessment of the carrying capacity is fair, well thought out, and brilliantly presented, though. Thanks for the video!

[@ItsJustVirgil]

This is actually a pretty good flagship for a small fleet, and even better as a support ship for nomad fleets like the Rebel Alliance “Phoenix Cell”. It’s got good hangar space, decent defenses, plenty of barracks and living spaces (be it for invasion forces or crewmen) and it has a super fast hyperdrive. Honestly if I was running a mercenary cell late or post GCW, I’d buy this in a heartbeat.

[@mansharker8]

This class of ship was featured long ago, in an episode of the classic star wars cartoon called Droids in the 80s. I have the tape of the episode, and its on disney plus :)

[@k-874]

(When the empire made a ship that makes sense) *"IMPOSSIBLE"*

[@CeceGames]

Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete?

[@picrigg1913]

@@CeceGamesIMPOSIBLE

[@BIuskys]

MetaNerdz is single handedly proving why the Empire is the coolest power in StarWars.

[@doughboidays3039]

Bluskys agreed 100 times over. Bellator is best ship

[@richardched6085]

I always imagined ships like the Vindicator, Gladiator, and Enforcer Star Destroyers as being part of the Clone Wars Victory Project alongside it's namesake the Victory-I and Victory-II Star Destroyers. As they already have Imperators and Tectors in service as of the Battle of Christophsis (According to the 2008 Clone Wars visual guide).

[@richardtrue2758]

Kybo-ren Kylo-ren no that's not a rip off all original

[@flababofa]

This was the most shocking thing in this video lol

[@MachineMan-mj4gj]

This is Jar Jar Abrams we're talking about here...

[@KertaDrake]

Well, that's not all, really. The sequel trilogy is basically Thrawn and Dark Empire mashed together with the serial numbers filed off.

[@elijahsellers3727]

@@KertaDrake and ordered off Wish

[@a.morphous66]

​@@MachineMan-mj4gj Do you honestly think JJ Abrams has heard of Kybo Ren? And even if it was intentional, there is literally nothing about those two characters that's similar. It's an homage at the absolute worst.

[@generalbricks2113]

I love how I thought it was small at first until you brought in the real life comparisons and then it hit me... This channel is awesome keep up the great work!

[@gold664]

I was first introduced to this little batsard when playing the EaW Remake Mod, and it has since then become one of my favorite warships in Star Wars. It's not a sledgehammer like the Imperial-class, and is just a wonderful little ship

[@18videowatcher41]

Every time I hear "Tarkin Doctrine" I LOL.

[@doughboidays3039]

Unreal Reality oh lord I just wish we got to see a “thrawn doctrine”

[@jameshoxworth6447]

I wish this ship got more canon appearances, would've been nice to have this for Moff Gideon instead of the modified Arquitens in Mandalorian

[@redshirt0479]

Yes! The Gladiator is one of my favorite Imperial vessels along with the Vindicator/Interdictor. A great specialist that doesn't sacrifice her multirole capability. One of the few times the Flight-Deck Cruiser concept has been done right. Although I would be tempted to sacrifice some of the hanger space for a couple medium cannons and/or some ion cannons. Then again, she's already got a sizable missile/torpedo compliment so having big guns isn't as necessary. And so glad that you covered how strange the number of fighters on her official stats are, never understood why she would have fewer fighters than the expanded hanger variant of the Vindicator which could hold 72. I wish these vessels got more time in the lime light. Imagine how fun it'd be to see a battle group of composed of Dreadnoughts, Gladiators, Broadsides, and a couple of Vindicators/Interdictors supported by Carracks, Lancers, Arquitens, and Raiders go up against large rebel and pirate forces. And I have to point this out, but the longest warship ever built in real life is the USS _Enterprise_ CVN-65 at 342 meters long. Longest ships built though are the tanker _Seawise Giant_ at a whopping ~459 meters long and the 488 meter _Prelude_ FLNG which is technically a floating platform.

[@UncleFester84]

I believe they forgot to put a zero at the end of the number when they wrote the Gladiator stats.

[@solidushornet6831]

It’s a shame that the Gladiator doesn’t get much love in any major media outside of sourcebooks and the occasional video game cameo. I hope it returns in Canon someday. Love the ship and loved the dedication put into this video😁👍

[@friendlyneighborhoodrottwe4960]

Great vid I love how much research and effort you put in them

[@ShadowJedi527]

Kybo Ren vs Kylo Ren Who would win?

[@Gigas0101]

Kybo would win, he always comes back!

[@501ststormtrooper9]

Yeeeeesssssssssssss

[@fakenuke7487]

I've been waiting for you to cover this ship for so long, thanks m8

[@prometheus8010]

3:32 Thought, what if they had those hanger racks on both floor and ceiling so that it was doubled

[@CD-Freedom]

I’ve been waiting for this video forever. Thanks MetaNerds!

[@justsomeguy17199]

Put this request out months ago, so glad you covered it

[@airplanenut89]

Since you mentioned that 26 fighters seems small but these were refitted to carry 1200 troops, maybe that small fighter compliment was post refit. As you explain this ship is at heart an aircraft carrier, not a troop transport. Therefore it can be assumed that they were not built to accommodate such a large compliment of troops in addition to the ship's crew and fighter wing. A refit to accommodate the extra personnel would likely take away from that hangar space, thus reducing the fighter compliment. I would conclude that your estimate for the fighter compliment is correct upon initial commission for this class when it was a dedicated carrier. The "official" source's fighter compliment still seems low but would be a better number for a post refit Gladiator. Perhaps this small fighter compliment is also due to prioritizing larger fighter compliments to the growing numbers of ISDs, upcoming SSDs, the Death Star, as well as all of the garrisons on conquered planets. In addition there are also the squadrons assigned to defend high value targets like ship yards, and R&D facilities like the ones used to develop the Death Star. Perhaps the small fighter compliment is due to this ship going from being an aircraft carrier to being more like a equivalent to a USMC assault ship.

[@republic9299]

One of my favorite ships next to the Venator. Thanks for doing this one!

[@stephenbond1990]

Can't wait for the vindicator cruiser, great video and thanks again.

[@brad3154]

Congrats on 100k! You deserve it, since I bet getting information about various Star Wars ships are hard, seeing how inconsistent some sources are, but if possible, could you make a video about pre-Clone Wars ships? like the Republic or maybe even Trade Federation ships before they were upgraded or enhanced to battleships?

[@kevinbryer2425]

I think two hundred and fifty is probably a reasonable number in it's standard configuration. I also envision them as tenders to other Imperial support craft, using it's cavernous hanger to repair, rearm, and refuel a half dozen or so Raider corvettes at a time, or numerous Gozanti freighters, or Lambda, Sentinel, and Zeta class shuttles. It could carry numerous gunships as well. The idea is that if the Empire needed to land large numbers of troops at a time, more so than a standard destroyer could deploy at once, they would call up a Gladiator full of freighters and shuttles, which pick the troops and vehicles off their capital ships, and land them all at once to overwhelm a target. Of course, if there is time and distance to play with, they might still have Acclamators lying around as well.

[@techticianlarsproductions6180]

i love this ship so much. i actually designed a venator ii lego model thats a combination of the veneator, arquitens and the gladiator.

[@44WarmocK77]

Greetings, fellow ship designer. ^^ www.deviantart.com/warmock/art/Star-Wars-Damokles-class-Light-Carrier-Cruiser-810140856

[@stephenlutz6936]

I would take and add the gladiator class to my fleet. It's small, but versatile that can help take down fighters and corvettes.

[@mouse3872]

Always thought the main Flagship for the Mando's in S3 should be a ship 600m or larger. The Gladiator seems like the perfect Mando Flagship for what they were aiming for in terms of style of fleet. I think the fleet would look as follows Gladiator as a flagship, two Arquintin Classes as heavy fire support, 5 Gozantis for supply/Troop transport and fighter screening, the Komrk class Transport then a bunch of Fang and Z-95s as fighters. I just always felt the Medium class ships in Star Wars seemed more versatile than smaller counter parts. The Imperials Light Cruise seemed to be dedicated to ship to ship combat with the base model not even having a Hanger. Then most other ships of similar size or smaller were built for specific roles like fighter screening, troop transport, or missile "boat". Whereas the Gladiator, Enforcer, Accamator, and Vindicator classes being all around the same size with more versatility to them all seemingly carrying their own fighters and having a wider variety of weaponry.

[@mouse3872]

And I would love if we saw that these small outer rim imperial factions were informed by Thrawn to only utilize medium to small ships to avoid The New Republics eyes. After all a few Gladiators aren't a huge threat to the new Republics fleet even if it was small. Again would be really cool to see The Mando's using a Variant of the Gladiator against a Imperial fleet of Vindicators. Like a larger scale war is still being fought in the Outer Rim but due to the more limited supply chain and resources available the Empire and any faction that formed would be forced to utilize fleets with Flagships that are less than 1000M

[@antwan1357]

I just took into consideration one thing that made sense with the 24 tie fighter and the absurdly low count . Because this ship may have been in service as a ship that uses 24 fighters of any make or model suggesting as a dedicated fighter carrier of multiple kinds of fighters it would not have tie fighter racks. But instead tie fighter designed to land on ground along with any other fighter type.

[@bolothegiantfriendlypillbu4075]

Congrats on 100k subscribers

[@ArmouredProductions]

Meh, I still like my Harrower-class Dreadnaughts.

[@doughboidays3039]

Armoured Productions yasss

[@Emps597thADR]

I think of this as my discount Harrower, however I would love to have a battle group harrowers with Gladiators as their escort

[@zacharywoudstra5917]

@@Emps597thADR I am running a D&D campaign set in star wars, thanks for giving me a fleet idea!

[@fulcrummando22]

Playing through Friends Like These right now, so this is awesome

[@fartdorrito4531]

Congrats 100k

[@PastelStudios]

Very cool and obscure destroyer. Would be nice for it to appear in canon

[@blindoutlaw]

Artist: I’ve made a new imperial ship. A smaller version of the star destroyer with a massive hanger area. But how many tie fighters should it hold? Maybe…. Oh lunch time! Fuck it, 36 will do.

[@vegardodavinci5046]

I would like to see a video comparing this 2 a Mc40a Lightcruiser

[@willrh1022]

Do you play Star Wars Armada? Love your videos, congratulations on 100k

[@princeofpokemon2934]

The biggest weakness of the Gladiator class carrier are the hangar bays. If you can get close enough to do a strafing run or bombing run, then it could cause a chain reaction, destroying the entire thing.

[@mrmarvin9916]

Congrats on 100k subs!

[@fedorpavlovic]

Wow cool video. Can't wait for the TIE Echelon tho.

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

I think more likely it carried 72 fighters. 1) The proposed size of the hangar bay is comparable to the hangar bay for the ISD. 2) You cannot hang your fighters from the ceiling and then cram more on the deck without having to consider not being able to launch any that are not up front. 3) Tie Bombers and Tie Interceptors take up more space than just regular Tie's do. 4) Given the height of a TIE fighter at almost 9 meters. The hanger could house 75 TIE fighters spaciously at 6 times the volume. Or more likely 112 TIE equivalent at 4 times the volume for each fighter. The standard TIE having 561.94 cubic meters. 5) It has more than one Hangar Entrance, these have to be kept clear so nothing hear or in the way of them. 6) Any shuttles landing are going to cut into any TIE's hanging from the ceiling unless there is a wide path for the wings and tail to pass thru. And that's why I think it is more like 72 TIE fighters like the ISD.

[@sim.frischh9781]

220 TIEs DOES sound like a decend force. I did not expect this ship to have such potential. Personally i really like the design with the split bow, but the front facing hangar entrance makes the ship more vulnerable than the Venator.

[@casbot71]

Now the challenge is for *_You_* to improve the Venator. Perhaps the twin bridges converted into one complete bridge so flight command and the ships pilots could interact directly. And the usual caveat of fixing the bloody vulnerability of having sick an exposed bridge. Giving it a bridge based around the Gladiator would be more protected - if not going for a holographic internal bridge. What I would've done in the Clone Wars (assuming Palpatine got eaten by a Zillo beast) was refit some Venators as heavy hitting sluggers, while keeping the external appearance the same. The simplest way is just load up the entire carrier bay with missiles and torpedoes, and stick in extra launchers (behind concealed doors so the enemy can't identify which ship is what type until the battle starts) so that it can unload massive salvos on the enemy ships, overwhelming point defense with a barrage of heavy missiles and ion warheads. That way you don't need to rewire the whole ship and fit extra reactors to power Turbolasers ect. It sits in the fleet with the standard Venators and when it's showtime the CIS captial ships get rocketed to death. Any other improvements you can think of? It's worth a video. A better design would be to use protected side hangar exits, but that would mean a comprehensive rebuild into a different ship, not a improvement on the design. As for the Victory class, what a stupid mission profile during the Clone Wars - it's a heavy hitting anti capital ship slugger with Turbolasers galore, covering a glaring weakness of the Venator fleet. But then it also specialises in ground assault deployment, a area already well serviced by the Venator and a completely different mission profile to it's main job of beating up other capital ships. It would have been better served to completely dispense with carrying ground forces and instead use the space for extra combat potential in full scale space battles, perhaps with some point defence or just more Turbolasers. The only way this ship makes sense is if Palpatine had it designed specifically for the post war Empire as a planetary control ship and had the ship built so it would be just getting into service when he pulled the trigger on Order 66. Then it's mission profile does sort of make sense.

[@arcinvert]

The venator cannot be beaten when carrying fighters. End of the story. :)

[@doughboidays3039]

One word lukrehulk. And no ramming it does not count anakin you little bich

[@doughboidays3039]

Also there is now power greater than plot armor and the venator has the most of any capital ship

[@blackshogun272]

@@doughboidays3039 the long guns, singular and quadruple turbolaser batteries, and ion cannon units on a Lukrehulk-type Battleship should have logically shredded any capiral ship that was stupid enough to engage it in combat...

[@doughboidays3039]

BlackShogun 27 not to mention the three thousand fighters... at best for a venator it would be a more than 7 to 1 advantage... I don’t care how good republic pilots and fighters are (early war republic fighters suck) you just can’t beat those odds

[@darkraven5106]

(Laughs in times we see venator destroyed)

[@speedygonsales1043]

Is it me or it look's like a tx-130. Nice video btw.

[@radiointerference8466]

Great video

[@radiointerference8466]

Thanks for the heart it means alot to see my one of my favorite star wars youtubers do it!

[@matthewlogan763]

Congrats on 100k

[@elliotyourarobot]

Does star wars have similar navel naming conventions as earth where the first ship of the class names the class. Like the Gridley class or the Yorktown class. Was the first Venator called the Venator or first imperial class star destroyer called the Imperial

[@patchanonsoontarodom3364]

This is very interesting I’ve never thought of it like that. I love this idea and I really hope the canon explore the navy system more deeply. Thank you for bringing this up

[@koraegi]

I think the first executor class in Star Wars was also named the executor

[@airplanenut89]

I know this is old but I can't help myself. Depending on the navy, the class name could either reflect the name of the first ship, or a theme of the class. This is best seen with the British Royal Navy where ship classes were identified by proper names such as Queen Elizabeth, King George V, Leander, Revenge, Illustrious, and Implacable. In other cases, usually with smaller ship classes that would be in greater numbers, the classes were named based upon a theme or even just a letter. Such classes include Town, County, Colony, Tribal, Flower, Battle, G, C, R, ect. The same naming trends can also be seen in the Kaiserliche Marine (Imperial German Navy), and later the Kriegsmarine (Nazi German Navy). This doesn't really seem to translate to the US Navy however as it seems every ship class we have had has a lead ship name. In the case of the Gladiator, Venator, and Victory classes, it is likely that those names are the names of the lead ship. Victory could also be a name theme where the class is called Victory but all the ships are named for famous victories of the Galactic Republic. Imperial does seem more like a class name theme as back when I would mod the ship rosters in Empire at War, Empire sounded like a better ship name than Imperial. The rest of the class being named for large, imposing things which command respect, and order. thus the title Imperial.

[@elliotyourarobot]

@@airplanenut89 thanks for giving more info and the late reply

[@airplanenut89]

@@elliotyourarobot You're welcome.

[@dragonblaster-vu8wz]

I just did the rough math. And with your dimensions for the hanger, it's possible there's an error in the account of how many ships it can hold. I believe that it was meant to say 26 squadrons of fighters, which would total out to 312 fighters. That could be accounted for by extending the hanger back a bit further, but that's quite reasonable, IMO. And if we're talking about only TIE variants, then they are most certainly hanging by racks near the ceiling, allowing for a number of shuttles, TIE Bombers, and possibly even a Raider-class Corvette if needed.

[@testingsecretaccount]

Excellent video!

[@richardched6085]

The Demolisher seems like a miniature version of the Gladiator. In Legends it was in service since at least 15 BBY.

[@Alexzander1989]

Any chance you could do the Vindicator-class heavy cruiser?

[@blah007001]

Heck, what if that hanger on the Gladiator was used for something else other than fighters? A CR-70 can fit in there after all. Or a bunch of VT-49's, which might be better at providing air support to elite special forces on planets with no air presence then TIEs could. I'm thinking a VT-49 transports a bunch of troopers down on Backwater X, and then goes back up in the sky to act kind of like how we use AC-130's or Hind helicopters in real life. With the amount of troops on board the gladiator, you need to have loads of ways to get them to target areas quickly; and since we're talking about a backwater, there might only be a nominal Civil Air Patrol guarding the airspace on some of the planet at best. So I could easily see only 24 TIEs being deemed necessary for that mission profile, and is instead loaded up with a metric buttload of special forces dropships and gunships. Sort of like a real-life Wasp-class Assault ship that the USMC uses, only holds 6 fighters but has 12 Ospreys, 4 attack helicopters, 4 Super Stallions, and 4 UH-1Y's in its standard configuration. Of course the Wasp-class can be switched out to have 22 Ospreys for pure assault or 20 fighters for pure air control- which would be more in line with the carrier mission set.

[@Smoky701]

This coment makes me very happy as the gladiator is my favorite ship and the VT-49 Decimator is my favorite fighter(freighter) both of which are relatively unknown

[@Reliavl]

Tactical Droid: *I calculate that four of these can invade a moon. The odds that I am wrong, are 87-1.*

[@akumaking1]

I've seen the miniatures for the Armada game.

[@maryuma7]

Congrats on 100k! 🎉 Im stupid i put 1mil on the community post lol but doesnt matter cause that fact still remains true.

[@AC_blessed]

Didn’t know any of this about Dave filoni except for tales of the Jedi.. sad to see smaller rightward getting treat this way and him and the others treating there work like this are getting praised… like you said, not that he shouldn’t get praise for all he’s done but I think it’s only fair to call him out for treating other peoples work like this

[@thorshammer7883]

When you compare the power of the Old Sith Empire from Swtor ships and the Empire's ships which faction had the better navy? I'd say the Old Sith Empire their designs were much better and they had better commanders and pilots then the Galactic Empire or Dark Empire.

[@richardtrue2758]

The Terminus class destroyer is bad ass and the Harrower class dreadnought awesome

[@koraegi]

Several thousand years of technology improving alone would give it to the Galactic empire

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

@@koraegi You also have to consider the millenia of stagnation of technology after the Republic defeated the Sith in both the EU and Disneyverse

[@Lyrikle]

If the old sith empire was on the same tech level as the post republic empire, I can safely say Palps would have his ass beaten in, too many imperial navy ships are porrly designed with more fear factor in mind than actual practical application

[@thorshammer7883]

And considering how much damage they put on the Old Republic and how long they kept the war effort going they are a far better military, army, and navy then the Galactic Empire & Dark Empire ever had.

[@o.k.productions5202]

“No one crosses Kybo Ren!” Droids was awesome.

[@danielturner1249]

My theory is the 26 Starfighter number is like the 144 number for the Executor, it's not it's maximum carrying capacity but it's standard operational complement, since so many Gladiators were reporposed for patrolling remote planets alone. It doesn't need hundreds of Fighters for that, and it would just be more expensive to maintain a Tie Wing of that size in the outer rim. Gladiators in major Fleet engagements probably come fully stocked with 120-200 Tie Fighters. That's just my headcannon.

[@michaelhardy9750]

That was cool thank you Meta

[@rombokombo024]

I have a question what is the backround Song called that you use in all your vids

[@canuckled]

In Star Wars Armada the Gladiator is an actual destroyer -- race into torpedo range, unleash everything then run. I use Victories and ISDs the same way.

[@Draekmus]

I think I can explain the low starship capacity: Imperial Logic. Have a ship designed to carry fleets of starfighters into battle? Fill it with Stormtroopers and call it a day! On a more serious note: it's probably the result of applying the Tarkin Doctrine to every ship in the Imperial Navy. Governing through fear of, as you put it, mobile fortresses. There was no consideration for numerous starfighters because one intimidating ship would be enough to quell the local populace. We all know how well that doctrine worked in the end.

[@44WarmocK77]

Still my favorite star destroyer design, and the basis for my own fanfiction ship (upgraded version still in the render queue): www.deviantart.com/warmock/art/Star-Wars-Damokles-class-Light-Carrier-Cruiser-810140856

[@jcthemonkeyking9412]

Imagine how many droid straighterd you can fit in it

[@thorshammer7883]

How many ships and soldiers did the Yuuzhan Vong had at the peak of their power?

[@dovaairsoft4956]

At least 7

[@greyhunter3271]

No more then all of them though

[@thorshammer7883]

I would guess they have at least over 500,000 vessels and and over a hundred trillion soldiers and since they had far more dangerous and powerful weapons to boot that would explain how they took so much of the galaxy and brought all the factions of the Extended Universe down to their knees.

[@Glorymoon97]

Yes! I took one look at this ship and said. "There's no way that thing carries only 26 fighters." I'm glad someone agrees with me.

[@reginaldtyroneshort]

The Dreadnaught HC was also 600 meters but originally had no fighters. A Victory could hold up to a maximum of 72 fighters as a carrier variant. The gladiator was a torpedo ship capable of taking out frigates, corvettes or space stations.

[@Scianta]

If one was listening To thé commentary in thé TIE fighter game... THÉ Imperator included 5 XG- Star Wings and 5 skipray blastboats

[@icantafford]

I thought the Victory was introduced to engage in capital ship slugging matches alongside the Venator which would be the fleet carrier. They were being developed alongside eachother at least

[@Agent_3141]

I never knew that the Victory Class was that small. It's very interesting compared to its larger successor

[@ChelseaMyReligion]

Did the empire just stick with the acclamator as an assualt ship (seems that way) or was there any limited replacement or proposed replacement?

[@toby1061]

I would have had an imperial fleet of 1 ISD II, 5 Dreadnaught cruisers, 3 victory class Star destroyers and 2 gladiators, perfect amount of fighters, fighter defend and fire power.

[@pizzaman1016]

The Iowa class battleship was longer that the Yamato class, and many aircraft carriers are longer, I still liked the video

[@LiliaArmoury]

what mod was used in this video? i kind of want to play empire at war with a wider arsonal of imperial and rebel units

[@doughboidays3039]

You could totally improve on the venator.. I mean I love the clone wars as much as the next guy but they are kinda... shit. The republic overused and misused them and I would hardly call them a battleship carrier hybrid. They pack to little firepower and are to vulnerable yet you see the republic field around three against dozens of separatist ships. Munificence outgun them and a single lukrehulks carrys more than 5 of them republic fighters aren’t tie defenders. There is now way they are good enough to break those odds this is my only nit pick a both the clone wars tv show and honestly I’m upset not enough people are talking about it. So I have a challenge for you and I get your probably a busy guy and I don’t expect you to do this. But I bet that you can find a way to improve the venator for its inter purpose within the republic fleet. I loved the rest of the video by the way but people over glorify the venator when ships like the lukrehulk are strictly better at both roles

[@laisphinto6372]

thats is why the Victory and Imperator were made because they were better in these aspects especially the ISD. but TCW fanboys swear uo and down how godly the venator is despite we see it only hold up by duct tape of plot against the serious CIS heavy hitters like the providences and especially the lucrehulk

[@GAJake]

The gladiator was made during the clone wars so maybe the complement was based on larger starfighters that can't fit on racks.

[@rivertownproductions]

2:25 the Iowa Class is actually longer than the Yamato. But I’m pretty sure Yamato was still bigger when it comes to width and tonnage. (I don’t blame you for thinking Yamato was longer though, just found out recently that Iowa was longer).

[@gato23]

I think the 26 fighters are the ones that are always Ready to Deploy rather than its full compliment. but thats just me.

[@HanaTheSloth]

Gladiator Class is my favorite ship in Star Wars, barely edging out the Harrower Class Dreadnaught.

[@LiliaArmoury]

I'd love getting to use these in empire at war fall of the republic mod, i am finding i really need more fighters on the republic side considering how the cis seem to be spamming my fleets with droids and wiping out all my pilots early on

[@inquisitorgarza312]

One would think that the Empire will focus on carriers rather than battleships considering that tie fighters were meant to swarm the enemy while Star destroyers meant to take on other battleships.

[@kineuhansen8629]

i would love to see that ship in canon

[@jonathanryan9946]

As far as I'm concerned it still is. The sequels are fan fictions and the Expanded Universe is still the true sequels.

[@Erolsaurus]

@@jonathanryan9946 how original

[@jonathanryan9946]

@@Erolsaurus the Sequels weren't original at all, just another reason they're fan fiction.

[@Erolsaurus]

@@jonathanryan9946 Actually a storm trooper that rejected Imperial control had never been done before the force awakens unless you link me to a very obscure legends book. I agree legends is better than canon however you guys should at least acknowledge something being canon instead of crying all day about it. I don't like the prequels overall, but I acknowledge them being canon

[@jonathanryan9946]

@@Erolsaurus Kyle Katarn isn't obscure. He is a former Stormtrooper who defected and was the lead of an entire video game franchise. The basis that Cassian Andor, Finn and Kanan ripped off. I do acknowledge canon material, just not Sequel material. Canon has good content from the Clone Wars era until about Empire Strikes Back.

[@alew6883]

To upgrade the venetor class star destroyer just add more guns

[@valravnsshadow9422]

*Kybo Ren* Hey he referenced my comment from the last video!

[@demanischaffer]

I feel like the Venators hanger space gets a lot of praise, however it seems to be more of a "on paper only" design as the GAR seemed to never have the manpower and equipment to fully stock a Venators airwing

[@laisphinto6372]

the ISDs 72 fighters makes more sense in this size range. the venator sounds like fan fiction,not only do you need so many fighters and pilots but ammunition,fuel,spare parts for every fighter class not to mention that venators also have to carry tanks and troops

[@Exodianecross1978]

The flagship of Admiral Terrinald Screed was a Gladiator, the "Demolisher"!

[@samsarex4318]

The gladiator class is my by far favorite star destroyer in the imperial navy

[@boreasreal5911]

Good old Gladiator, imo onrme of the best ships in star wars

[@CaptainM792]

Can you add the Resurgent class and the Nebula class into that star destroyer size comparison chart?

[@CD-Freedom]

M Lau if these 2 ships fought against each other, who would win?

[@anjalusadultceremony3864]

It would have been awesome if you compared this to the Space Battleship Yamato and USS Enterprise instead

[@79pixiefuryMonkeyKing83]

I know this is an old video, but! What's better, a gladiator star destroyer or an acclamator assault ship? I've watched this type of videos all the time

[@cz1589]

Double its size and its a real force to reckon with.

[@lumsdlx]

What were the shots of the space battle of Kamino from?

[@CmdrShepard95]

So, how big are those side hangers? What are their dimensions? How wide and how long are they?

[@punknerdvee]

Are two Stormtrooper battalions really enough to eat up 88% of the Gladiator's carrying space? I guess you'd need room for their dropships, and hopefully some place for them to chill out while en route