Star Trek: 10 Secrets About The Strange New Worlds Enterprise You Need To Know

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@posindustries
@posindustries 3 жыл бұрын
They absolutely revealed what caused the Enterprise's system failures. Number One tells Pike in "An Obol for Charon" that it was the holographic comm systems, and he ordered her to have them all removed, thus explaining why they weren't used by the time TOS rolled around like they were in DIS S1. It's even right there on Memory Alpha.
@MrHominid2U
@MrHominid2U 3 жыл бұрын
The whole holographic communication was just stupidity on CBS's part in Discovery, that's Star Wars not Star Trek
@InvaderNaj
@InvaderNaj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHominid2U right cause only one franchise can have a certain tech. ds9 and voy already had that years prior
@MrHominid2U
@MrHominid2U 3 жыл бұрын
@@InvaderNaj No they didn't. They didn't use holograms to communicate it's just dumb. It's dumb in Star Wars too.
@revenire2913
@revenire2913 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHominid2U ds9 actually did use hologram Communications
@MrHominid2U
@MrHominid2U 2 жыл бұрын
@@revenire2913 Saw the whole series several times over, don't remember Star Fleet ever using it.
@tomlake2732
@tomlake2732 3 жыл бұрын
The official, authorized blueprints show that Kirk didn't face directly forward but rather that the bridge was at an angle. These prints were made in 1975 or so.
@vincesieber8828
@vincesieber8828 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this as well. You'd think someone with the name 'Trekculture' would do the research and know this.
@joeldf6859
@joeldf6859 2 жыл бұрын
They were only made "official" because Roddenberry liked the work that went into it. Franz Joseph made all that up all by himself, and only had what we saw on screen to go by. The bridge was turned relative to the turbolift and the turbolift was along the centerline on the model, so be it.
@juliajuanafernandaalvarez1456
@juliajuanafernandaalvarez1456 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say I really love this design. Don't really bother by the bigger size. For me this is how the Kelvin Enterprise should have always looked like.
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 3 жыл бұрын
Being an old Navy guy myself, I know that a Ship changes over time, especially during refits, so I chalk up any changes from the Pre-Kirk Enterprise to the Kirk Enterprise as changes we haven't seen yet, because those changes will done done in a later refit. As was seen with the Enterprise in the Motion Picture, back in the day
@DrakeAurum
@DrakeAurum 3 жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is that when Pike first captained the Enterprise in The Cage and the flashback scenes in The Menagerie it looked the way that it did when Kirk captained it, then they completely refitted it sometime prior to Discovery's first season finale, and then they refitted it again prior to the Five Year Mission to go back to its original appearance? That seems like way more work than just saying "okay, it's a retcon."
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrakeAurum Or you could say that the refit was accomplished between now and "The Cage" and then Pike was Captain for some time after, till relieved by Kirk
@josephnorris4095
@josephnorris4095 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrakeAurum Also, making it 50% smaller is in no way logical.
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deltaflot1701 Discovery takes place *after* "The Cage".
@NyuuMikuru1
@NyuuMikuru1 3 жыл бұрын
There was a quite a few refits during the 5 year mission. Rear nacelle changed as well as the front. Deflector dish changed somewhat as due to constant use every few months. Captain’s chair changed a bit. And stuffs.
@robertmarra1341
@robertmarra1341 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, as a kid, seeing the technical specs book for the Enterprise showed the bridge was indeed at an angle and the view screen did not face forward. I thought it was odd back then.
@ZulcanPrime
@ZulcanPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I bought the blueprints in 1975 as a teenager. I never had any toys as a child. I was so happy and overjoyed spending many weekend hours looking at the details. This was the reason that I became an architectural draftsman as an adult.
@PotentiallyAndy
@PotentiallyAndy 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, me too. I commented just now before reading this.
@awesomeblader45
@awesomeblader45 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone wonders why the OG Enterprise seems to “pop” despite its dated look, it’s because it has nearly perfect 2/3 ratio at almost every angle you look at it. Truly a beautiful ship that modern redesigns will never fully encapsulate.
@Clin45
@Clin45 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
Golden ratio, I would expect?
@Affenbrot918
@Affenbrot918 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree. It look awful in 2021!
@jhixx8910
@jhixx8910 2 жыл бұрын
It probably advantage of something called the “golden ratio” which is 1.618 as that ratio is more aesthetically pleasing to our brain.
@Tricky117
@Tricky117 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a throwaway line about the holo communicators being the reason for Enterprise's system issues and that was then removed entirely?
@jruser
@jruser 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was mentioned at least twice that the holo comms were the cause. Number One later remarked that the system had been ripped out.
@GELF
@GELF 3 жыл бұрын
yep number 1 said it was the holo comms
@MrClassicor
@MrClassicor 3 жыл бұрын
was just about to type that myself ;)
@AnthonyWLeone
@AnthonyWLeone 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100 percent correct! Which is great because I never liked the holo communications. But then again, I'm "old" and like the other way better. ha ha
@flyingwombat59
@flyingwombat59 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Pike specifically told No. 1 to rip it out. He said it was like talking to ghosts
@ultramaximusreviews
@ultramaximusreviews 3 жыл бұрын
It took me 10 years after TNG I realized that the turbolifts were moving up and down and back and forth and side to side in the shift by looking at the directions the lights were moving inside the lift itself LOL
@OldUKAds
@OldUKAds 3 жыл бұрын
And the trip was always the right length for the conversation.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
SHOULD have gone to Spec Savers!
@zclammyesss9533
@zclammyesss9533 3 жыл бұрын
.......and slow AF
@gabevee3
@gabevee3 3 жыл бұрын
The turbo lift position was addressed in a fan mag back in the late 70s. Yes, it was thought that the bump in the back was where the lift moved to and then went down. ;-)
@backpacker3421
@backpacker3421 3 жыл бұрын
Which is just as ridiculous an explanation then as it is now, but I guess it's better than "the whole bridge actually faces 30 degrees to port for no particular reason." And we certainly can't just leave it alone and accept that it was a communication mistake between set design and props builders.
@dirtyburd71
@dirtyburd71 3 жыл бұрын
Good as any explanation ;)
@vincesieber8828
@vincesieber8828 3 жыл бұрын
It IS the bump in the back, and yes, the bridge is canted roughly 45 degrees to port.
@jokester3076
@jokester3076 3 жыл бұрын
The original constitution class Enterprise was never referred to as the flagship, 1701-D is the first to be given that status as far as we’re aware.
@dinomonzon7493
@dinomonzon7493 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. Capt. Kirk never claimed in any episode that she was Starfleet’s flagship. I always assumed it would be either the Constellation or the Lexington as they had Commodores as their COs. Had the Enterprise D & (presumably) the E been the flagship, where was she during the Dominion War? Capt. Sisko was on the Defiant, Chancellor Martok was on the Negh’Var & Adm. Ross’ flagship was the Farragut in DS9’s What You Leave Behind.
@willowmillard
@willowmillard 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the original enterprise was really meant to be second place to the USS Constitution. The only reason it became famous was how well it performed on all its five year missions. I think the Enterprise B might have been the flagship but I’m not sure
@willstikken5619
@willstikken5619 3 жыл бұрын
it's not like the writers know what flagship means anyway.
@michaelblackwell7408
@michaelblackwell7408 3 жыл бұрын
True, it wasn't the flagship, even Klingons knew it was a garbage scowl.
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelblackwell7408 I thought they said it should be hauled away AS garbage.
@Wookiee925
@Wookiee925 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think they have found a good balance between modernising the SFX and keeping true to the original.
@alakani
@alakani 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Strange New Worlds looks alright, a long way from filming engineering deck shots in a freakin beer factory like the first 2 stupid reboot movies
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 3 жыл бұрын
@@alakani 1st was a Budweiser factory, into Darkness was a Nuclear Fission Lab, The National Ignition Facility in California
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 3 жыл бұрын
Why not a series for Cpt. Mykenzie Calhoun ("New Frontiers")? I enjoyed reading that series more than seeing "DS9"! I hope "Strange New Worlds" will have stories from "Enterprise" too as they do in the books by this name.
@sam17101
@sam17101 3 жыл бұрын
It's so refreshing to see others who share my feelings about or whose feelings I share; however you wanna call it. I think an excellent job was done to keep to the original look while using modern VFX to give it a realistic look.
@richparker3048
@richparker3048 3 жыл бұрын
Any time you go messing around with the timeline, it's a wonder anything looks like it should. You gotta expect a brain tweak when all that happens. :)
@Sirtop13
@Sirtop13 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they updated it for modern TV. I think it was a mistake making Discovery have all these cool holo-screens and whatnot for the first 2 seasons, now it makes sense. But how they merge modern TV effects/CGI/etc with the TOS Enterprise is perfect, I love it. I think Discovery is okay, I hope Strange New Worlds brings back TOS and TNG styled Star Trek.
@sherryojeda9178
@sherryojeda9178 3 жыл бұрын
100 % agree with you.
@ejwa12
@ejwa12 3 жыл бұрын
The original Enterprise (1701) was an older ship when it was destroyed in the third movie. Robert April was the original captain. He did his tour as captain for 5 years, I think, then the ship was retrofitted before Pike was captain. The ship went through another refit before Kirk got it the first time. Five years later Kirk transfer to the academy and the ship is refitted again before Decker is captain. Then in the first movie we see the ship again being refitted. If you compare the turbo lift from the bridge set in TOS and compare it to the Motion Picture, it is not in the same location either. In fact, there are two lifts in the movie bridge.
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
Robert April doesn't count. He's a TAS character.
@jasonpye4649
@jasonpye4649 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I knew all this. I guess you're trying to tell the people making this video.
@JGlaister
@JGlaister 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphanerd7221 but Captain April is canon, as he was mentioned in Discovery.
@ZombieFBody
@ZombieFBody 3 жыл бұрын
I always get a laugh when the Admiral mentions that the Enterprise is 20-years old in STIII and is too old for another refit. It's twice that age according to later canon and in TNG/DS9 we have nearly 100-year old Excelsior class ships still in service!
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
@@JGlaister Discovery doesn't count either.
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner 3 жыл бұрын
The turbo lift & offset bridge was explained, back in 1975, in the Star Fleet Technical Manual. This just paraphrased Matt Jefferies' explanation with diagrams taken from the actual sets. It's also given as a valid reason why the the Cage & TOS Enterprise couldn't have a front window.
@still_guns
@still_guns 3 жыл бұрын
When Strange New Worlds comes to its final close, I reckon it will show the Enterprise as it appeared on TOS, as a link to Kirk and the era that began it all.
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 жыл бұрын
Probably'll be the first Connie Refit, which happened before TOS.
@michaelalexander43
@michaelalexander43 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah@@michaelgreenwood3413, talk about your (yes but no, no but yes) refits.
@Maplelust
@Maplelust 2 жыл бұрын
not before they poke more plot holes into the original series like they did with the gorn.
@jeffwenberg4321
@jeffwenberg4321 2 жыл бұрын
Everything said here about larger budgets, better vfx technology, new methods AND materials for construction, etc. are absolutely SPOT ON! Let's not, also, forget that what may have looked futuristic in the 60's has been far out paced by today's technologies and aesthetics. I was born in 64 and yet I'm able to roll with the times and adapt to the changes made and see them as not only cooler in appearance but logical given the times we live in. The old aesthetic appears 3 times in new Trek, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise (I don't count Voyager because it's movie era),that I remember and while fun to see it looked terribly dated. Keep up the amazing work guys!
@StonedOli
@StonedOli 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they are keeping the nacelle spacing like the original, the thing I most don't like about Abram's Enterprise is the close together nacelles.
@DanielBrown-sn9op
@DanielBrown-sn9op 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@L1z43vr
@L1z43vr 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, cuz it’s not like there were ships in the prime timeline that had Warp Nacelles really close to eachother… NO YOU DONT COUNT, CONSTELLATION CLASS
@jonathanschultesdulcimer
@jonathanschultesdulcimer 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Number One said the malfunction was at least in part due to the holo communicator and Pike ordered the system to be taken out?
@JacobStJules
@JacobStJules 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that. Did we hallucinate this?
@psoma_brufd
@psoma_brufd 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Anduril74871
@Anduril74871 3 жыл бұрын
If not the direct cause, it was a definite contributor.
@thomaszinser8714
@thomaszinser8714 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, precisely this.
@KEVMAN7987
@KEVMAN7987 3 жыл бұрын
Pike hated the holograms. He said he felt like there were ghosts on the bridge.
@Axemantitan
@Axemantitan 3 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping that they would give Number One either the first name Majel or the last name Barrett as a tribute to her original actress. Also, did they really name her "Una" because she is Number "One"?
@ers586
@ers586 3 жыл бұрын
I was also wondering whether Number One was inspired by Una.
@DMStraylight
@DMStraylight 3 жыл бұрын
@@ers586 I fully expect them to address this in the first episode or two and that it'll turn out to be some cute in-joke between her and Pike, probably at Pike's expense.
@alm2187
@alm2187 3 жыл бұрын
I've yet to research this myself, but I'm told the name Una dates back farther than Discovery. That's one for Memory Beta since it's from a tie-in story somewhere. Fills in a blank, anyway, since the pilot had no explanation why she has no name. Seems Pike calls her Number One because that's a cute take on her real name! :-) Also confirms her mental faculties are superhuman.
@johnbockelie3899
@johnbockelie3899 3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit, it's a discoprise. Kirk's was the real thing.
@jasonpye4649
@jasonpye4649 3 жыл бұрын
@@alm2187 it ties into Peter David's Excalibur novel series if I remember correctly. The character was actually very old and had many names over the years. It's been like probably almost 20 years since I've read them, but if I recall correctly she was also Robin Lefler's mother.
@Nimmo1492
@Nimmo1492 3 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise obviously gets smaller because it flies too close to a subspace compression anomaly.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe The Doctor, doctored it with his spatial trancendentalism!
@lrdnova
@lrdnova 3 жыл бұрын
They mentioned the reason for the damage to enterprise was due to the holographic communication system that works on Discovery but not on Enterprise. Pike ordered to rip it all out to get Enterprise back to working order.
@magnuslundin5784
@magnuslundin5784 3 жыл бұрын
The Writer's Guide for the original Star Trek show was quite specific that the view screen "is not a window".
@eoghanlacey6384
@eoghanlacey6384 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a window in this
@flyingfoamtv2169
@flyingfoamtv2169 2 жыл бұрын
@@eoghanlacey6384 it never was, after the 2140s.
@edbrown5665
@edbrown5665 3 жыл бұрын
" the original enterprise" Nx01: "am I a joke to you"
@michaelmiller3012
@michaelmiller3012 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Yes, actually. :)
@brettman717
@brettman717 3 жыл бұрын
wtf is with the insane turbo lifts that really bugged me when watching the last season there was so much empty space you could fit the entire ship inside the turbolift ducts I didn't know the federation had Hogwarts stare technology
@JamieNemeth
@JamieNemeth 3 жыл бұрын
9:46 I mean, since the mirror universe Terrans are more light-sensitive compared to their prime universe counterparts, as we learn from Star Trek: Discovery (most prominently from Lorca), it sounds reasonable that this could lead to other differences in how they perceive things with their eyes...if the writers or fans really wanted to, they could totally say that Georgiou just sees the Enterprise more orange than we do...
@OmiWatanube
@OmiWatanube 2 жыл бұрын
No, the writers are just jerks
@Cogency1
@Cogency1 2 жыл бұрын
I love Star Trek so much, I don't even care about all the changes, retcon or not. As long as we have more Star Trek, then there is still hope for humanity.
@arno5108
@arno5108 Жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense 🙂
@madbunny101
@madbunny101 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sweating the aesthetics. I'm sure if Gene had access to all the tech we have today, his Star Trek would look a lot like the new Trek. Jussayin
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 3 жыл бұрын
Yup you’d be right, I mean look at how much he changed the Klingon designs once he got the budget and ability to do so. Gene didn’t fuss about aesthetics when things could be changed to look better.
@The_Beard_of_Knowledge
@The_Beard_of_Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Actually gene had very little to do with the movies and also most things with Star Trek weren’t even his ideas.
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
He had the tech to make it look lame. he decided better.
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainPikeachu Discovery's also a lot like he wanted to make trek, but the studio Execs wouldn't let him.
@msthalamus2172
@msthalamus2172 3 жыл бұрын
I *really* like this Enterprise design. It's my second favorite, just behind the refit version introduced in TMP.
@SkyCharger001
@SkyCharger001 3 жыл бұрын
my turbo-lift-bump headcannon has always been that that was a turbo-cabin storage point. (otherwise the bridge-hull would have been ridiculously *THIN* )
@chuck__van
@chuck__van 3 жыл бұрын
Video gets a like for two reasons. 1. Adams jacket. 2. Pauls "Retcon-stituion" Class ... great work boys 👍
@dougdax
@dougdax 3 жыл бұрын
I really REALLY like the reimagined Enterprise. Very elegant.
@HrabCOrp
@HrabCOrp 3 жыл бұрын
An elegant starship, for a more civilized age
@bradameerbeg2154
@bradameerbeg2154 3 жыл бұрын
11:50 yeah… I didn’t understand how the USS Discovery had become a TARDIS somehow….
@lannik_0
@lannik_0 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there is a time traveling federation ship from the 31st. Century (ent: future tense) with this technology.. i imagine the refitted discovery just being upgraded with this to fit all the fancy new tech in the hull
@willroberts3991
@willroberts3991 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to SNW, Mount kills it as Pike. Hopefully we'll get Prime Lorca
@IceWolf-23
@IceWolf-23 3 жыл бұрын
I agree anson mount is amazing as pike and I'm looking forward to seeing him return as pike
@ne3856
@ne3856 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Knightfall182
@Knightfall182 3 жыл бұрын
Mount plays a likeable character.... but it's completely different from the Jeffrey Hunter portrayal, which was very internal. Almost like Batman. Which Mount ironically voiced.
@yellowpete79
@yellowpete79 3 жыл бұрын
@@Knightfall182 Well said, all these people saying he's great as Pike didn't watch the Cage or read any novels or comics that actually fleshed out Pike. He isn't meant to be a happy, team player like Kirk. Same people who dismiss the obvious 25% different rule.
@bermanmo6237
@bermanmo6237 3 жыл бұрын
Discovery was supposed to eventually feature a Prime Lorca. However, since Discovery is now set in the 31st century, probably not going to happen. Ironically, mirror Lorca was actually not a bad captain in the prime universe. Yes, he is ruthless, ex, the torture chamber in his cabin, but he is also a very decisive captain when dealing with the Klingons during the Klingon War. He was probably a captain that will probably fit better during a war than say peacetime.
@joep5170
@joep5170 3 жыл бұрын
My only gripe with new Enterprise(tm) is the pylons for warp nacelles are not perpendicular to hull like TOS, instead they are canted back like movie Enterprise (perhaps not as much, but they are).
@thelarryman482
@thelarryman482 Жыл бұрын
Well they'd be made perpendicular during kirk's refit
@_Omega_Weapon
@_Omega_Weapon 3 жыл бұрын
Noticed the doors look very similar to the ones on the Enterprise E. With the TOS look mixed in.
@hammerman199374
@hammerman199374 3 жыл бұрын
I would get mad about what they did to the Enterprise (like we all did about the Disco-Klingons) except... I really like this version. In fact, I love it. So much so that I almost wish they would re-redo the exterior effects shots on TOS and update them with this version. Almost...
@kenwaid8239
@kenwaid8239 3 жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting idea star trek TOS the “special” special edition
@berthulf
@berthulf 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, Okay Mr Lucas. But that could be cool. Unneccessary, but maybe cool.
@krugerdave
@krugerdave 3 жыл бұрын
It can't be worse than the cut-rate VFX that they've vomited all over the current remastered version 🤦‍♂️ The stuff in Axanar looks significantly better.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, in TOS, the whole bridge was twisted just so they could film people entering and exiting over the commander's left shoulder. The lift is right, you're just misunderstanding which direction Kirk's facing in.
@christopherkraft1327
@christopherkraft1327 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for Strange New World Star Trek & The Enterprise!!! LL&P 🖖🖖
@joeb8476
@joeb8476 3 жыл бұрын
They did explain why the Enterprise had problems. The Holo system caused a feed back on the systems and it had to be removed. Number One told this to Pike on the bridge..
@danandtab7463
@danandtab7463 3 жыл бұрын
So they explain how the turboshaft can be in the back, but not where inside the Enterprise (or Discovery) we have room for an entire Monsters Inc/Space Mountain area for the turbolifts to zoom around in.
@chrisbuckley7345
@chrisbuckley7345 3 жыл бұрын
They don't have one. Given how fast those lifts move, and how long that fight took, the space would have been much bigger than the ship. It was just a silly fight sequence.
@elliotlevy8610
@elliotlevy8610 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was assuming that the absurd size in discovery was some 33rd century addition. We're talking about the same era that has transforming ships and detached nacelles after all, and no one seems to have an explanation for those either.
@geraldford6409
@geraldford6409 3 жыл бұрын
The producers just need to clearly state SNW is a reboot, ie different Universe/timeline vs Prime/TOS They could then do cool crossover specials where they visit the Prime Universe with the exact Cage/TOS look and feel. If the show does well, they could move on to the 2260's and eventually the 2300's in this new timeline. While continuing the Prime timeline via Picard and its successors
@ianbailey4667
@ianbailey4667 3 жыл бұрын
They could split the universes from the points in Enterprise that history says originally didn't happen
@RomanPhilosopher
@RomanPhilosopher 3 жыл бұрын
It's the same universe. It's only a visual update
@matthewleto1180
@matthewleto1180 3 жыл бұрын
For strange new worlds, they should make the nacelle pylons straight, give the nacelles their spikes at the front, and give it a lighter hull color.
@MrHominid2U
@MrHominid2U 3 жыл бұрын
In the TOS movies the pylons sweep back at an angle because at the base they connect to the antimatter storage just behind the deflector as does the impulse engines straight above that through the neck.
@matthewleto1180
@matthewleto1180 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHominid2U I know, but this is closer to the actual show, where the pylons were straight.
@MrHominid2U
@MrHominid2U 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewleto1180 Yes true. I do like the new design though
@eddieschwab864
@eddieschwab864 3 жыл бұрын
One observation that I made is that if the nacelles are actually longer in total length from front to rear, that alone would like to explain the difference in the length on the ship from Discovery and strange new worlds versus the original series. Much as they had changed the nacelles from the original series to the movie era in that case even changing the nacelle struts, it would make sense that they might change the nest cells along the way as necessitated by technology or necessity such as a issue where they might have lost them along the way...
@xaero76
@xaero76 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrHominid2U The reason they were sweptback for the Enterprise Refit is because the straight pylons limited the space for the Hanger bay, so the Refit had a larger hanger bay thanks to the new pylons
@asoncsm101
@asoncsm101 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Adam’s videos. Fantastic energy mate Thank you so very much mate. Especially during these endless lockdowns here in Australia.
@james8449100
@james8449100 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still hoping for a Scot bakula camieo
@virginiaconnor8350
@virginiaconnor8350 3 жыл бұрын
And maybe a T'Pol cameo too. Maybe I should volunteer my niece Shannon if Jolene won't return to her role.
@james8449100
@james8449100 3 жыл бұрын
@@virginiaconnor8350 not sure how cannon it is but it is but I'm pretty sure she dies in 2257 so that works. JH would have to be a academy flash back
@mikegould6590
@mikegould6590 3 жыл бұрын
You honestly can't make everyone happy. Update the look to match modern VFX? Unhappy. Don't? Unhappy. I think the new Enterprise is bangin' and I'm old enough to remember the ORIGINAL broadcasts.
@clairewilliams9416
@clairewilliams9416 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when ever I think 'that looks far to futuristic for the time line', I look back at TOS see a dog with a horn strapped to it head trying to pass as alien and think 'nah carry on with your modern VFX, I'm good after all'.
@bobyallop5688
@bobyallop5688 3 жыл бұрын
@@clairewilliams9416 LOL, hey I loved the dog with the horn!
@Peaceforall20111
@Peaceforall20111 3 жыл бұрын
“What it is…it’s impossible” you crack me up 😂
@angelicagaldos
@angelicagaldos 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the Enterprise looked then and now. I grew up with D and E. I just love how the update the shows' CGI and the budget plus the references to the previous trek shows/movies as well as real life.
@martinflyer1197
@martinflyer1197 3 жыл бұрын
"Go outside and touch some grass" is my absolute favourite line from that rant
@lisareckmeyer9745
@lisareckmeyer9745 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that was pretty hilarious. i had to stop the video i was laughing so hard ...
@tincanable
@tincanable 3 жыл бұрын
OMG Yes, loved Adam skewering those 25% difference weirdos.
@gmmeier321
@gmmeier321 3 жыл бұрын
The turbolift thrill rides in the expansive wasted space in a ship was ridiculous. Why would any design waste fuel to carry huge unused spaces in a ship? Answer: they wouldn’t. Whoever came up with those visuals should be fired. Time to rehire the Okudas.
@georgesantos4962
@georgesantos4962 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares? It’s looks awesome. It’s JUST a TV show. Take it for what it is and don’t get so worked up about it.
@darrengriffin8609
@darrengriffin8609 3 жыл бұрын
Get over it.
@gmmeier321
@gmmeier321 3 жыл бұрын
Good scifi always has one foot in reality. Going too far makes the engineer in me cringe.
@ZealoustheEnder
@ZealoustheEnder 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Discovery totally expandable and reconfigurable inside for it's specific mission
@darrengriffin8609
@darrengriffin8609 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZealoustheEnder absolutely, 👍
@damien__j
@damien__j 3 жыл бұрын
Cries in Enterprise C
@insertfunnyhandlehere
@insertfunnyhandlehere 3 жыл бұрын
I just look at it as a storytelling medium that has evolved and I am just happy to have more stories in that Universe no matter if they look like they did in the original or now
@davequinlan3020
@davequinlan3020 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I thought it was the holographic communications that caused the catastrophic failure.
@pant24
@pant24 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 100%. Then Pike said take out the whole system and they would only use view screens from now on. Figured that was to explain why Kirk didn’t have them.
@bwdesmoagogo
@bwdesmoagogo 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they "explained" the catastrophic failures as being somehow tied to the holographic communication system and that's why it gets stripped
@TheBlindDyslexic
@TheBlindDyslexic 3 жыл бұрын
I'm psyched about Strange New Worlds. Knowing RTD is returning to Doctor Who, this could be our chance to having Both shows doing joint ventures. Imagine each show being able to do Proper references for each.
@evanhughes7609
@evanhughes7609 3 жыл бұрын
Never going to happen.
@TheBlindDyslexic
@TheBlindDyslexic 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanhughes7609 I know, but we can all Dream & Hope
@timhendricks650
@timhendricks650 3 жыл бұрын
I like Star Trek, and I like Doctor Who, but... please. Just no.
@TheBlindDyslexic
@TheBlindDyslexic 3 жыл бұрын
@@timhendricks650 lol
@JakobNoone
@JakobNoone 3 жыл бұрын
@@timhendricks650 Pretty sure they already did this years ago in a comic book series or two.
@tylerkowalski3862
@tylerkowalski3862 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I hate are the turbo lifts. They make make no sense.
@Optimistprime.
@Optimistprime. 3 жыл бұрын
Other then the angled pylons, it is a very nice ship. But to be fair to the original, there is always a way to make it look a bit better but stay the same. ie the millennium falcon.
@LockeRobsta
@LockeRobsta 3 жыл бұрын
*Scotties new dialogue for STTNG:Relics:* "N C C 1 7 0 1. No bloody A B C D E F G H I or J. No NX, No Kelvinverse, and definitely no bloody Discovery version..."
@hailcthulhu419
@hailcthulhu419 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked the design. From the outside it looks somewhere between the original and the refit.
@SPatrickRoss
@SPatrickRoss 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Number One say something about the system failure having something to do with the holographic communications system, and she had the Engineer rip it out?
@MonkeyBoyOpera
@MonkeyBoyOpera 2 жыл бұрын
BEST Adam video yet! I loved the personality coming out more.
@JGooden762
@JGooden762 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the R2-D2 repair droids that it has...never seen those before this Enterprise...
@s.jamessavell6995
@s.jamessavell6995 Жыл бұрын
I read a book of Kirk's autobiography, where he had to upgrade the enterprise to fool the enemy into thinking starfleet had a base that could do it that far out. It was done by having the parts shipped out to the nearest starbase and just replace certain parts.
@4july99
@4july99 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, informative and funny. Paul and Adam you are a great team! And how ever spends hours finding all the clips and putting them together needs a medal too
@trekker683
@trekker683 3 жыл бұрын
If this was the ship we got in the jj movies people would have been more responsive to those movies
@alakani
@alakani 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just call me normal?! Ok now I'm offended
@calimann83
@calimann83 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly really like this Enterprise.
@DaellusKnights
@DaellusKnights Жыл бұрын
"What is WRONG with some of you?!" To borrow from Cell in DBZA... "That threshold is VAST..." 😂😭🤣
@lainimitchell6312
@lainimitchell6312 3 жыл бұрын
Adam, you need to do more videos. You make me smile every time. Great Trek video as always. Thank you.
@TiggiTheWillful
@TiggiTheWillful 3 жыл бұрын
Adams easily my fave presenter. He’s just fun and relaxed.. cute too
@trapjohnson
@trapjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
Montgomery "I'm From Scotland" Scott called it Aluminum. On screen. In speech. No bonus I in the 23rd century.
@krugerdave
@krugerdave 3 жыл бұрын
That's because James Doohan was a Canadian 😉 Just like Shatner. Also: Humphry Davy, the man who discovered the stuff, called it Aluminum. Like platinum, or lanthanum. Not all elements have to end in -ium.
@trapjohnson
@trapjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
@@krugerdave I like to keep the Davy info as a trump card.
@RoodeMenon
@RoodeMenon 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no issues with the ship, costumes or casting. I am worried about the writing.
@Cyber_Horse_Studios87
@Cyber_Horse_Studios87 Жыл бұрын
I like to think that given that the Connie underwent several changes 3 times before the TOS design was fully finalized, and given that this design looks a lot like the NX-01 refit, I would like to think that this version of the Connie Enterprise is a VERY early prototype. Eventually, the design would be smoothed out, the nacelles which made the ship have a longer length were cut down to make them more efficient, and overall the ships frame was massively improved, eventually leading to the TOS original design. That’s my personal concept at least. I’ve always preferred the smoothed hull design of the original. None of those panel lines or aztecing for me. I like my Connie’s smooth and sleek looking. (I do love the discovery: SNW design though. I love its bulky and awkward design.)
@drewf41
@drewf41 3 жыл бұрын
The original pilot showed that the lift was in the back. When the camera transitions from exterior to interior, it shows that bridge doest face true forward.
@freelancenerd4804
@freelancenerd4804 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about all the windows on the secondary hull?
@remi_gio
@remi_gio 3 жыл бұрын
More captain Pike and Spock! Yes please! 🤗👍😘
@GoodVideos4
@GoodVideos4 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention that there's also the Enterprise in 'Star Trek: Discovery'. I was wondering also if that Enterprise is not the same, or basically the same, as in 'Strange new worlds'. (It apparently is the same one, refitted.)
@GoodVideos4
@GoodVideos4 2 жыл бұрын
Before 'The Cage' there was Spock showing emotions like Smiling. I wonder if that will also be in 'Strange new worlds'.
@scottcatrett1496
@scottcatrett1496 2 жыл бұрын
Pike's Enterprise bridge was dank and blue. It didn't get colorful until later.
@alm2187
@alm2187 3 жыл бұрын
Enterprise-C: notably absent but who can blame you? Hard to know much about 'er. Enterprise-J: would that be under Captain Chase?
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 жыл бұрын
Dax, actually. The J's captained by a Trill
@caincha
@caincha 3 жыл бұрын
'Go outside and touch some grass' I'll try to remember and use that in the future hahaha 😂😂😂
@jefferyyoung2580
@jefferyyoung2580 2 жыл бұрын
I love the old enterprise
@drian1236
@drian1236 3 жыл бұрын
Adam!!!! I have missed you so so much!
@AndrewKendall71
@AndrewKendall71 Жыл бұрын
In the 1960s, there was a whole lot of test-flight-ing and NASA-ing going on. One of the main features of all that activity was the use of International Orange, the engineering version of which is ...... red-orange.
@rrrosadorr
@rrrosadorr 3 жыл бұрын
Puttin' the flip in flippant n' the cheek in cheeky!
@ebw9802
@ebw9802 3 жыл бұрын
Adams jacket gets a golden up☝
@thomasmitchum4901
@thomasmitchum4901 3 жыл бұрын
In my mind the way the USS Enterprise looks in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is the way it looked like when captain Kirk commanded the USS Enterprise They just didn't have the technology are the budget to make it look like it does, in Star Trek strange new worlds. So I'm going to pretend that's the way the Enterprise looked under Captain James T Kirk! I repeat I'm- PRETENDING- that's the way the Enterprise looked under Captain James T. Kirk's command! For the record, I like the way the Enterprise looks in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, over the way the Enterprise looks like in TOS series
@michaelgreenwood3413
@michaelgreenwood3413 3 жыл бұрын
it's also entirely possible this is before the original Connie Refit, which happened before TOS started, so this is the pre-refit Connie, and we'll get to see the TOS-era refit happen.
@escos0410
@escos0410 3 жыл бұрын
This version makes sense and is more believable to becoming the re fit in TMP. the TOS not a chance, iv always laughed to myself the explanation how the re fit is done, triggers brush comes to mind in only fools and horses ‘Iv had this brush for 15 years It’s had 10 new heads and 20 new handles
@geoffallert1921
@geoffallert1921 2 жыл бұрын
Was there at some point, a crossover from Doctor Who and Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. This would explain the turbo-lift issue. Improbability drive and TARDIS technology. Food for thought.
@TheOvadex
@TheOvadex 3 жыл бұрын
Guess they're skipping the tidbit that the rails on Pikes bridge were grey rather than red. :)
@CaptRobertApril
@CaptRobertApril 3 жыл бұрын
There also wasn't a gap on either side.
@flyingfoamtv2169
@flyingfoamtv2169 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptRobertApril yeah the SNW bridge is pretty bad looking.
@YeoYeo32
@YeoYeo32 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the catastrophic failure was said - on screen - to have been caused by the holographic communications system, which is why Pike ordered it removed from the Enterprise all together and not re-installed
@anxietygamingactual6554
@anxietygamingactual6554 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that as well.
@thoughtfortheday7811
@thoughtfortheday7811 3 жыл бұрын
That turbo lift framework was bonkers, looked great but bonkers. It would work in the TARDIS, though.
@bermanmo6237
@bermanmo6237 3 жыл бұрын
Or a high rise building. Does not look like in belongs on a ship. Yes, not even on large modern cruise ships.
@phrixos2826
@phrixos2826 3 жыл бұрын
i loved this synopsis, I really like Adam Clery, his energy for Star Trek is great, this was a wonderful Show to start my day. great work Adam.
@philipocallaghan
@philipocallaghan 3 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: Transparent Aluminium has recently been invented.
@bisem433
@bisem433 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving Enterprise at scale size next to Discovery would have been fine with me.
@scottolson4541
@scottolson4541 3 жыл бұрын
It's awesome! Let's just love that! All ships are being changed in the real world all the time!
@VoodooV1
@VoodooV1 3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the inevitable turbolift fight where they show the interior being bigger than the exterior. Didn't know they also had Time Lord technology.
@d_jedi1
@d_jedi1 3 жыл бұрын
That was in season 3
@bermanmo6237
@bermanmo6237 3 жыл бұрын
I also did not know that Discovery is bigger than a starbase or the Galaxy class ship. That turbo lift system looks like it belongs on a high rise building.
@leocallan3691
@leocallan3691 3 жыл бұрын
Adam. Fricking. Clery. 👍👍
@DavidNicholson101
@DavidNicholson101 3 жыл бұрын
Pike did say when the Enterprise scanned the signal, it overloaded all the Enterprise’s systems.
@ginomarroquin7713
@ginomarroquin7713 2 жыл бұрын
When Strange New Worlds finally catches up with the Original Series will we learn more about Gary Mitchell and Lee Kelso who were Kirk's friends and crew before Sulu and Chekov?
@DJHolte
@DJHolte 3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping you'd tell us why Pike's hair suddenly went fully grey.
@pauld4238
@pauld4238 3 жыл бұрын
That’s only a little more than 1/4 mile. Actually seems kinda small
@jeffreysalgado4472
@jeffreysalgado4472 3 жыл бұрын
The catastrophic systems failure was Q!😜
@DiecastDreamCustoms
@DiecastDreamCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they cover the Enterprise systems failure? I thought they said it was the holographic systems that caused the failure. Now, I'm not sure that I didn't imagine that...
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