Star Trek Balance of Terror (part 5 of 7) TOS (The Original Series)

[@gsr4535]

One of the best episodes... Still holds up well. This episode was made very early in the first season. The show's "brain trust" had not yet thought through phasers and photon torpedoes, etc.

[@easytherepilgrim2339]

Every time I watch an original Trek episode, commenters say it's one of the best. Because almost all of them are great.

[@gsr4535]

@@easytherepilgrim2339 Just about every TOS episode has some redeeming quality to it, even the weak ones. But "Balance of Terror" truly is one of the best. ;-)

[@k1productions87]

I remember on the original VHS, the "Phasers" had no sound effect at all. Certainly not the torpedo sound

[@richardvick7518]

Mike.would you happen to have a spare bridge for the ncc-1701 enterprise for the 1-350 model ? I think mine has come loose sometime before it got to me. The instructions refer to it as part #5 pm

[@diamonddog257]

STFU ... it is a direct theft of 'The Enemy Below' sub movie...

[@krashlyboo]

"Sir, why are we whispering in Space?" "Shut up, Wesley!"

[@passatboi]

It's because of the submarine suspense movies of the time. In those movies, the couldn't make noise because they would be picked up on the enemy's sonar. And the public of 1966 wasn't as sophisticated as we are today, so it added to the suspense. :)

[@mikejohnson9118]

@@passatboi X-actly! Cat and Mouse....Powerful Cat and Very Dangerous Mouse!

[@billbates5475]

This was the best ship to ship battle in the entire series. Shows Captain Kirks battle skills.

[@randymillhouse791]

"Captain's log still fluffy after bumping up against Yeoman Janice."

[@davidg.9932]

A very Happy 90th Birthday William Shatner. Notre-Dame-de-Grâce, Montreal, Quebec. March 22, 1931 Born in Canada, But a U.S. treasure. Your legacy is worldwide. Thanks Tiberius..

[@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork]

Like the way Kirk demonstrates his military skills in this one.

[@oobrocks]

I started watching ST in 1966 and I still can’t choose the “best” episodes; I do know this is one of the best 😊

[@fletchercastoria2338]

I’m diggin’ Yeoman Baskethead...

[@edoedo8686]

I always dug the rest of her... Starting....

[@FairyWeatherMan]

A great episode, that comes with some very good memory for me. First time I watched this episode was back in 1980, aged 10. I used to spend Saturdays at my grandparents'. I have a vivid memory of my grandma and me watching the episode. Now, in my mature years I imagine her watching this episode she probably wasn't interested at all, just happy to spend some hours of her last days with her grandson. Sometimes the smallest things are just enough to turn on our true self: the inner eye in our mind is a powerful tool to bring back good memories. Thank you for sharing the episode. Good SF and family love. God Bless you all

[@KARLDJ1ONE]

Beautifully put I can relate to this

[@carminemurray6624]

@@KARLDJ1ONE Me too. It brings tears to my eyes 👀 😢 as I relate to those fondest of memories. Like my uncle the Medical Doctor sharing his cup of coffee ☕️ with me as a lad.

[@mikkpunning5702]

It's nice that there are full episodes on KZbin, and not being taken down. So everyone can enjoy the classics.

[@applejacks971]

"They pulled a Crazy Ivan, all we can do is shut everything down and make like a hole in the water..." Seaman Jonesy, USS Dallas

[@davidmacwilliamson5570]

Lol Hunt for Red October 😂

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

You’ve got a great memory. Yeah, I love that movie.

[@crazyman8472]

“So what’s the catch?” 🤔

[@drobson8004]

Good call!

[@williammason475]

The Hunt For Red October. That was a great film

[@battlestarmarc]

Tos star trek was awesome. Mark lenard played spock's dad and was awesome as General Urko in Planet of the Apes tv series. Great episode.

[@amethyst9998]

It's hard to believe that this first started 58 years ago, and yet it still holds its fascination and appreciation. :)

[@mikeleo1]

@@amethyst9998 so true

[@francisphillips53]

My favorite episode.. (that Romulan commander must be awesome if he is in charge of the Romulan Flagship. (The Romulan is awesome on this episode.)

[@matthewabraham5947]

It is hard to believe this is the first episode where they fired their weapons in space. They did not think of two weapons for the ship until later. That was 4 episodes later, when they fought the Gorn ship. That was my favorite episode as a kid tied with the Doomsday Machine. I loved watching them fire weapons. It was so cool. We only had a black and white tv but it was great.

[@dicktater2140]

Damn. I bet you remember wonder woman, 6 million dollar man, etc. I'm old too💀💀

[@mm-gl7sz]

No they also fired phasers against the cube warning device in The Corbomite Maneuver which is actually the first time they use the ship's phasers in the series

[@kargaroc386]

Its actually crazy for later fans to think about just *how little* star trek lore there was at the time. Photon torpedoes, weapons so basic that launch ports for them are built into later ship models, didn't exist yet, which would've made this episode play out alittle differently if they did. The Federation itself didn't even exist, not by the name "United Federation Of Planets" anyway. They didn't even know the year.

[@cliffcox7643]

Captain had a main squeeze!!

[@lindapompa4835]

The sound effects, the Best,miss those days of Great shows

[@davekinghorn9567]

Very funny. In the silent vacuum of outer space, thousands of kilometers away from each other..they are all still whispering so the other ship will not "hear" them... Like the Sub & Destroyer of the 1957 film "The Enemy Below."

[@Beachdudeca]

Dave Kinghorn . Its smart to mimic Sub vs Destroyer combat its something the public understood at the time

[@contessa.adella]

See my reply above...you don’t need sound waves to travel through space ship to ship....an electromagnetic emission would do it.....Like imagine a super advanced RADAR whose return signature contained the ripples of vibration from an enemy hull....vibrations caused by sound from inside it. The tech is beyond us (now), but the physics allow it.

[@paulcatalano6101]

Dave Kinghorn no sound in space

[@pallen49]

Perhaps Kirk new they were fighting in the library quadrant of space...You know, how one must be polite and be as quiet as possible. Or the Organians would get ya..lol

[@DavianSinner]

"Why are we whispering?"

[@icwiz]

"why are you whispering?" -- Elizabeth Weir - SG-A

[@Jeng4280]

This was by far one of the best TOS eps ever made. I love this cat and mouse game that the Enterprise and the Romulan ship play. It's absolutely fantastic..and so is the soundtrack..such iconic music and also love Kirk and his military skills here with Spock!

[@jangtheconqueror]

Something I love about this episode is that it never shows you the ships in relation to each other. Makes you feel like they must, blind, scared.

[@مصطفىكريم-ذ2س]

مسلسل اكثر من روعه في وقته وكنا ولا زلنا نحبه حب شديد به اشتياق للماضي من كنا شباب صغار بالعمر نتابعه بلطف ومعجبين به الله يرحمهم الممثلين

[@whiskeydawg489]

Balance of Terror is one of the best Star Trek episodes of the original series. For that matter, it rivals any Trek variant to come along afterward as well. It's storyline is based on a movie, which itself was based on a novel called, The Enemy Below. A German submarine and it's captain square off against an American Destroyer and her captain in the middle of the Atlantic. If you love this episode of Star Trek, you'll enjoy this movie. Each work stands on it's own and offers enough contrast that one compliments the other.

[@Mantikal]

The most unique atmospheric sound track music ever.

[@Muffell-os1om]

Min 0:03 ! The man who pushed the ballhorn all the time deserves an OSCAR ! LMAO

[@Laeadern]

If you have to fight an enemy a Constitution Class starship is a good place to do it from for sure...lol

[@HVACQualityAssurance]

Funny how they're using modern naval tactics (darkened ship, silent running, etc.) in outer space. With the advanced sensors, they still might be applicable?!🤔🤟😉 IIRC, this episode was loosely based on "Run Silent, Run Deep"?

[@mikeleo1]

@@HVACQualityAssurance yes, you are correct!

[@F.O.R.]

The idea that they're whispering on a ship in space when sound doesn't travel through space doesn't make sense but I still love the show

[@rjframe4410]

Sound doesnt, but sensors do, and sensors could detect the presence of any energy type including acoustic based kinetics

[@JiFan]

Lol shut up...! 🤣

[@chrisl.7016]

This is one of my favorite episodes. It reminds me of the WWII submarine movies I loved when I was younger. They even have the Romulans trying the debris ploy like they did in WWII subs to throw the enemy off. And it has a good lesson on prejudice when Kirk calls out the bigoted helmsman after he questions Spock's loyalties. "There is no room for bigotry on my bridge." he says.

[@diamonddog257]

... you should have heard him the Roast , and 'slightly bigoted' hilarious.

[@paulbarham1038]

There's some kind of gentleness and caring in Captain Kirk's demeanour in S1 that is a part of his character that I really like. You can hear it in the tone of his speech or in his reaction when he receives word thst the Galileo 7 sre safely on board in another S1 episode

[@sambuvca22]

I remember watching these episodes on the big 70s couch with my mom and dad on our new 85 inch box furniture with 24 inch tube.

[@davidbrogan606]

"Alright Mr. Spock, work quietly." As if sound is transferred through empty space. This is a relic from submarine movies.

[@johnhoover6468]

David, Sound would not travel through space, but as sound is a VIBRATION, it could be detected by a sensor sweep as an anomaly! Just FYI

[@john90430]

I does mirror a certain WWII submarine vs destroyer, cat and mouse movie. The Enemy Below. Starring Robert Mitchum. A classic.

[@williamcampbell4876]

@@john90430 Correct. Also a good movie.

[@davidmurray5399]

They need a spread of Photon torpedoes.

[@charleswest6372]

Very intense scenes. Edge of my seat...the waiting game especially then all hell broke loose-!

[@jmswms53]

So well done! Truly the Enemy Below in space. It's almost a mini movie!!! One of my favorites also. And of course The Doomsday Machine!

[@jimmason1072]

Run silent run deep.....

[@diamonddog257]

@@jimmason1072 no Dummy ; Curt Jurgens.... not Clark Gable

[@jimmason1072]

@@diamonddog257 ok doggy I know the movie..... Robert Mitchum....drives his ship into the sub.....I take it you haven seen Run Silent Run Deep.....

[@diamonddog257]

@@jimmason1072 You can 'take it' that Gable and Lancaster are two of my fave actors; - and Frank Gorshin was a buddy; the Role went to Don Rickles, as Frank had a car accident, going to the audition.

[@Slowpaws1389]

Intruder holding steady, good thing he was holding and steady at that

[@31xrg]

Excellent episode!

[@johnwagner4776]

This was the only episode where phasers were fired in explosive traverse pattern (like naval depth charges) The same sfx was used for photon torpedoes

[@omnifay469]

Thank you for having these to see! You saved my night!

[@lookingforonetruechristian7396]

Absolutely a futuristic remake of The Enemy Below.

[@klinej54]

Absolutely! "To you my friend and you my friend and all of us together."

[@kimba381]

Alright Mr Spock. Work quietly. 'Cos we don't want them to hear you through the vacuum.

[@jessfrankel5212]

Okay, so they messed up on the phaser thing...photon torpedoes, actually, but it was actually minor when contrasted with the tense atmosphere of the episode, the acting, and the music. In future episodes, they made sure to use the correct terms for phasers and photon torpedoes. As well, they did away with the separate room for firing phasers, and had Sulu handle that. It actually worked better that way. Great episode. Along with The Doomsday Machine, one of my favorites.

[@easytherepilgrim2339]

It's not a mess-up. They fire the phasers in different ways.

[@sunnyjoelandry3971]

Enterprise has several different types of phasers. Those are particle phasers otherwise known as depth charge phasers. Torpedoes or a different color.

[@mm-gl7sz]

They also used this type of phaser for the last time in the series against a Klingon Scout ship in Errand of Mercy. Why, I don't know because the Klingons didn't have the cloaking device back then.

[@wak69]

The phaser is a multi use tool. It can be fired like a beam, fired as a proximity blast (like a depth charge), or fired as a bolt.

[@mm-gl7sz]

And even when the Klingons did have a cloaking device in Star Trek 3 The Search for Spock, the Enterprise used photon torpedoes against the cloaked ship not phasers with proximity blast. And when the Enterprise E went up against the Scimitar which was perfectly cloaked, the used beam phasers photon torpedoes and quantum torpedoes.

[@antonioacevedo5200]

Bot captains are concerned about sound. Sound does not travel in space.

[@pistonar]

Alright, Mr. Spock. Work Quietly. Because they may hear you through the vacuum of space.

[@babbyfacerevocation2740]

Why did Spock stick his head in the toilet??? To find the captains LOG.

[@akexkdffakdkwicdfkkdkk7343]

A faction in the Federation probably suspected during the Earth-Romulan War that some Vulcans might be spies for the Romulans. The suspicious officer panicked and was desperate for extra proof that Spock was on their side. Kirk tells Spock to work quietly so the suspicious officer gets the message: Spock is the most reliable sailor on board. If anyone is a mole on the Enterprise, it's not him. If Kirk had only made a comment about bigotry, that man might have panicked even further but kept quiet about it until he could report it to overly excited members of command. In other words, Kirk is too openly confident about Spock, using just the right words, to be misinterpreted as trying to cover for a known spy, or a right-hand man he didn't want to believe could be one, etc. A Cold War audience would immediately pick up on this. Truly trustworthy friends had a peculiarly profound significance in that era.

[@paulbarham1038]

Good episode

[@mitchmahoney5586]

One of the best episodes, but technically that Romulan ship only had impulse drive. So getting across the Zone would take about 45 years. 🤷‍♂️ still... loved it when it aired in the 60s...and still grips my attention now. Well written.

[@alwaysthelight]

The tension of a bow at full stretch. Spannenbogen. Just like a submarine battle.

[@georgemarsilio5122]

Why are they wispering??? Hilarious!!!

[@georgemarsilio5122]

Hahaaaa

[@flokabsby]

Whos here from Star Trek: Strange New Worlds :D ?

[@frankz5103]

🙋🏽‍♂️

[@themandownthehall]

It's like the commander has been right every time and yet his underlings are like, he's not there anymore. We can do this.. Dude, he's the commander for a reason

[@robertscheer7625]

I may be the only light Someone may see in this dark World

[@rogerscottcathey]

An ingenious channel.

[@komradewirelesscaller6716]

If you take literally what is shown on the original fx it looks like the phasers, in this case set to proximity blast, can be fired from the front, left and right sides of the dome at the bottom of the saucer section. Which actually fits the model which had three rectangular, whatever, around the bottom part of the dome. One in front one in the port side and another on the starboard side. The photon torpedo tubes had to have been directly adjacent to the phasers also since they are always shown fired from almost the exact same spot.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

At three minutes and 30 seconds, they’re acting like it’s two subs hunting each other.

[@williampaz2092]

I believe they were firing Phasers in “Burst” mode as opposed to “Beam” mode.

[@Idazmi7]

They straight up said earlier that the phasers were set for proximity blast.

[@jayjohnson1900]

WRONG.

[@pistonar]

As opposed to 'Photon Torpedo Mode".

[@Euripides_Panz]

Proximity blast is probably the least accurate mode, which is why it's almost never used, and it seems to be hard on the system. Instead, they favor pulse and beam modes. The blasts use powerful bursts that disperse the energy over a wide volume, tedious in nature, but deliver results resembling depth-charging a submarine.

[@jonathanwallace6667]

Lol, why are they whispering in space.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Are we picked up the steps of those work phasers they were photon torpedoes at 1:48.

[@applejacks971]

This episode should be called 'The Hunt for Red October in Space...'

[@Godfather061]

The Star Trek episode Balance of Terror is very similar to an old World War II movie about a submarine and the severing destroyer called Run Silent, Run Deep where the Americans were dropping depth charges on a German submarine. The two captions were playing a cat and mouse game. Very much the same as Capt. Kirk of the starship Enterprise and the Romulan commander. The old movie could have been the Enemy Below both movies were from 1957 or 1958.

[@bujmoose3992]

This was patterned after The Enemy Below with Robert Mitchum and Curt Juergens.

[@flowerpower8253]

Thank You

[@contessa.adella]

At start....All crew, we must never provoke interstellar war by entering the neutral zone....if necessary this ship and all the outposts are expendable to that end. (So um’ we will die before doing that!) Later...inform command, we are going into the neutral zone! Way to go Jim.

[@Idazmi7]

He had to prevent the Romulans from reporting a mission success. That, and the war had already been provoked by then.

[@0biwan7]

he didnt actually enter the neutral zone, he just said they were going to. this wouldnt be the only time kirk sent a deceptive message to starfleet command. and there were suspicions of a spy on board.

[@TheCormTube]

Very juch emulating a WW2 battleship hunting a U-Boat.

[@ghostrider-be9ek]

3:35 - 'work quietly' ??? in space sound does not transmit, this is not a sub

[@steveh1121]

Basically submarine warfare

[@kevinmcfalls945]

It's a U-Boat movie.

[@alainarchambault2331]

Yeah really, sound doesn't travel in space. Secondly, the Enterprise, whether stopped or moving still doesn't have a cloaking device. Must have been very early in the series that they haven't gotten around to figuring or standardizing space battles.

[@drtidrow]

Yes, it was an adaptation of the movie "The Enemy Below", which was a WW2 U-boat movie.

[@easytherepilgrim2339]

No it's not.

[@CarolanIvey]

I love this episode, it's one of my favorites, but...why are they whispering? Sound doesn't travel through space?

[@Music-lx1tf]

I love Star Trek but you gotta remember sound does not travel in a vacuum.

[@Slowpaws1389]

When I was young, I always was confused about the neutral zone thinking it was the neutered zone. I worried for them, thinking there manhood was in danger.

[@VitalityMassage]

0:39 My God Spock, your breath is BAD!

[@edoedo8686]

Maybe rather sweet.... And well...

[@aseriesofunfortunateserpen8800]

I love the sound effects in tos. I have no idea why sensors go *Putt Putt Putt* Like a rubber plunger, then echo *Ba deep a deep* but I accept it.

[@applejacks971]

LOL! They shut the lights out on the bridge thinking the ship itself wont be seen, epic lol!! If I close my eyes, you can't see me :)

[@jamesfunk7614]

They wanted to reduce energy emissions that the enemy might detect. The less energy Enterprise consumes, the less active their power generation and distribution system is.

[@edoedo8686]

@@jamesfunk7614 excellent. I learn much from the comments...

[@raoulcruz4404]

Proceeding into the Neutral Zone without a crew conference?! What does Kirk think he is? A commander of a starship. ?

[@mm-gl7sz]

He did the same thing in Enterprise Incident and acted crazy to boot to get a hold of the improved cloaking device

[@edoedo8686]

Jajaja...

[@MIDI_Player_Kion]

1:42 1:44 the ship sound 😂

[@LordTalax]

Yes speak quietly you might be heard in the vacuum of space.

[@uncletaylorify]

Well the way I always looked at it is that they don't know how strong the Romulan sensors were. They may have been strong enough to reach out and pick up sounds that shouldn't have been there in the vacuum of space......just a theory lol

[@jonathanwallace6667]

Why are they whispering 😂?

[@unclebob7937]

'Silent running' protocol

[@Herb.]

Missing parts of this episode in the crop-up!

[@dasfedoraguy3775]

Enterprise's phasors seem to be pretty janky. When they get fired they suck up enough power to dim lights, and after a few uses their circuitry fries.

[@kdryan21]

The genius here is showing the Romulans as sympathetic and honorable rather than cardboard cutout bad guys like the Klingons would become. This is the kind of writing one would not expect from a show of this era and is why Star Trek became great.

[@mm-gl7sz]

But then by the next generation the roles are flipped with the Klingon being honorable and the Romulans being deceitful

[@bigpond2607]

Hail\frequency

[@ericsmith8373]

OK. Why does the Enterprise's main viewer show incoming fire @ 2:08 when it's the Enterprise that's firing?

[@georgemarsilio5122]

Shhh!!!! They might hear you!!!!

[@contessa.adella]

Ok ok....so sound can’t travel in a vacuum...but did you know we now have lasers, that when bounced of a distant window, can record the vibrations of the glass due to speech inside...thus providing long range eves dropping not dependant upon the air in between! So in Start Trek...one “sensor” capability could well be a similar electromagnetic “Ping and return” that reads sounds in a distant hull. So...yes...they are right to observe silent running protocols huh.

[@-M0LE]

Contessa Adella wow that’s so interesting.....how do u know of these lasers

[@mikebronicki6978]

Wouldn't the "ping" itself give themselves away, making it a useless device?

[@maelwine1]

The debris could be vibrating still, and a laser beam striking it would bounce a modulated reflecting beam back, as opposed to the results if the beam hit empty space, and using the speed of light, and the wavelength of the laser you could determine the distance of the debris, and the size of some of the particles. So, you're right.

[@maelwine1]

@@mikebronicki6978 You wouldn't need an audio ping.

[@mikebronicki6978]

@@maelwine1 it doesn't have to be audio, what is described is active and not passive so the activity itself is detectable.

[@klinej54]

" The Enemy Below"

[@MrRevelation9]

Did I just hear Kirk order Uhura to "phone" the nearest star base?

[@wrwhiteal]

Kirk said “inform starbase” not phone

[@edoedo8686]

@@wrwhiteal jajaja...

[@jimsmith1856]

Maximum warp=tube train on the Bakerloo line.

[@AdhamOhm]

1:40 why does every explosion sound in TOS have the same "BEEP BEEP BEEPBEEP" noise? You hear it on the Enterprise, this Romulan ship, and others.

[@uncletaylorify]

All the parts were made in China? lol

[@mm-gl7sz]

You don't hear it in the Doomsday Machine when the Anti proton beam hits the Enterprise or in any of the second season when the Enterprise gets hit with enemy fire. The sound of Apollos bolts hitting the Enterprise when they are destroying the temple make the the same noise as the impact of the weakened plasma weapon in this episode but without the beeping. I also believe the sound is different when the Klingon Scout ship hits the Enterprise with its weapons in Errand of Mercy

[@nickziemer8123]

1960’s sound effect technology and the fact that Roddenberry had limited production budget approved by the powers that be.

[@master-kq3nw]

Kirk spock mccoy👍

[@jamesschenk]

Looks like anti aircraft artillery

[@michaelsmith2696]

Those photon torpedoes

[@torridd]

I'm still a bit confused. Uhura takes over for Styles. Is Communications much harder than what he does?

[@colincampbell3679]

That's not Burst Mode Phasers! No Such Mode. A phaser can only be a Beam. Those are Photon Torpedoes in form and sound? A huge slip up by the re-editing effects people when they re-did the effects for the remastered version.Look at all the other trek shows and films I guessing you see this sound and burst like weapon is only Torpedoes?

[@jayjohnson1900]

Thank god someone knows where special effects department screwed up. Yeah. Good man. All these other morons come up with some bull shit reason. Making up their own versions. Pifffff. Please

[@seanboyle951]

I like the concrete construction of the Romulan ship

[@scrmepal]

This story is well remembered as being one of the better stories from the original series..........and only marred by someone in the S/F dept by using Photon torpedo's, whilst the script clearly states that phasers should be fired. Does anyone know if this was corrected in the updated CGI enhanced version of this story?

[@mikeleo1]

I noticed that foo. I don't think they can change the special effects, because the audio is Photon Torpedos... hmmmm What do you think?

[@moso299]

There was a clip of the remastering producers talking about this question. They picked up on the line of dialogue about the phasers being set to Proximity Blast. So they used red blips for the CGI torpedoes, and white ones here in this episode. So, here's the real world info: there were no such things as photon torpedoes at this point in the series. They were introduced in the 2nd half of the first season in "Arena" after Gene L. Coon took over as show runner.

[@justinolsen9284]

@@mikeleo1the phasers were set to proximity blast. Stated clearly by Stiles

[@randymillhouse791]

I am confused. The young guy is firing phasers off from the bridge and Mr. Stiles is also firing phasers from the bridge.

[@stevenr6797]

So spock's father is the Romulan commander? ( I know I am talking about out the actor.lol)

[@Pavisdouble2]

lol Mark Lenard

[@0biwan7]

and the subcommander decius is shagging tpring

[@hibob418]

Did the same guy who wrote "The Enemy Below" with Robert Mitchum & Curt Jurgens write this episode? There are so many similarities.

[@troyandrew6154]

According 2 imdb, he didnt

[@christheghostwriter]

The writer of this episode was clearly familiar with that film

[@netdragon256]

Why are they being quiet? Sound doesn't travel in space. :0)

[@MIDI_Player_Kion]

0:34

[@kendo4242]

If you read all these replies with a voice with a lisp in your mind, you will laugh, I guarantee it. TOS all day, baby!

[@mgcoleman]

Brainstorming session for costume design: Designer #1: "Okay, so these bads guys need helmets or something like that. Who's got an idea?" Designer #2: "Huh? What? I couldn't hear you over Dave eating his damn pistachio nuts!" Designer #1: "Hey....."

[@lantastic1]

Mike Coleman helmets are easier to make than pointed ears

[@mm-gl7sz]

Used the same helmets on Vulcans in Amok Time

[@slick3336]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought a ship could not be detected by sensors while cloaked?