Star Trek: Discovery RANT - Geo-Blocking and the General Screwing Over of Star Trek Fans

[@zaranyzerak]

Okay already people. I got mixed up as to whether it was Voyager or Enterprise that launched UPN. It was Voyager. VOYAGER, NOT ENTERPRISE. Geez, make one little mistake and get pounced on! Also worthy to note that UPN did not exist as a network, affiliates or otherwise, outside the U.S. Everywhere else (such as Canada, where I hail from) both those shows went straight to syndication, just like TNG and DS9. And the original Star Trek aired on NBC, not CBS.

[@LainK1978]

Don't feel bad about mixing things up. CBS has screwed up the continuity of the Star Trek series by saying that this is taking place in the Prime Universe, but then everything shown about their new show points to it being in the Kelvin Universe.

[@blairschirmerx1711]

Why the he!! would you want the Extras for Star Trek Into Darkness? Wasn't just watching that crap once torture enough?

[@Mephilis78]

I could already tell you were Canadian when you said "Soooorry"

[@Mephilis78]

+Michael Betcher Everything you said is true. I watched every episode, and I was in pain the whole time. I think Rob from Midnight's Edge After Dark was right. This show was torture!

[@Mephilis78]

+Michael Betcher I liked Lorca, Tilly, and Stamets as characters. These were complex characters who experienced growth and development. The "prime" Georgia was a decent character too, but that obviously didn't last long. I don't like Burnham because of the way she acts, well the character's basic personality (not Green's ability to act). She is incredibly insubordinate, so much so that I wonder how she even got to be a Commander in the first place, unless it was just a diplomatic favor to Sarek. Doesn't matter what the situation is, she always knows better than her superiors. She considers her own opinion so valuable that she is willing to put her ship and crew in jeopardy just to satisfy her whims. She even thrusts the entire Federation into war because she is too stubborn to follow orders. Even Sarek tolled her NOT to do what the Vulcans did, but she knows better than even him. The character had a lot of potential though, they just made her too... unbelievable that it kills my immersion. By the end of the Season she has learned literally nothing, and gets rewarded for it. I've never hoped for the death of a main character in Star Trek before. I didn't even want to see Khan die in TWROK, or Dukat at the end of DS9. No offense, obviously. I do find Burnham to be an interesting topic, though. In much the same way I find Rey from TLJ to be an interesting topic. They have a lot of similarities. I wonder which would win in a fight, considering the heavy plot armor they both sport! lol The part that's torturous though is the visuals. There are so many visuals and sound effects designed to remind us of things in Prime. Like the bridge sounds, the type II phasers, they even started putting TOS chairs in the mess hall by the end. Then the next thing you know they show us things that clearly belong in Kelvin, like Discovery itself has no place in Prime. Or you'll see a "D7" that looks nothing like a D7, or a BOP that looks like a giant bat in space. It's torturous because they give you that feeling that "This might be Star Trek" and then instantly kill the feeling with something ridiculous.

[@TheMantaBluRay]

CBS/Paramount REALLY needs to take a good hard look at what Disney has done with Lucasfilm and think, "Maybe we should not only make the content more available but also find a way of fostering new fans NOT just old ones". There are kids today in Elementary School that knows and loves Star Wars just as most of us did when we were kids. How many can you say for kids loving Star Trek. Maybe a few that attended cons with their parents? That's not to say they should copy and paste everything that Disney has done. But understand what made people love Star Trek in the 1st place and expanding that love will not only be infectious but maximizes profit for everyone.

[@3dmaster205]

This does the exact opposite, older fans hate this thing, new fans who think Trek is JJ's Trek Wars are loving it.

[@FLAME4564]

Indeed until they see features that they never had the balls to implement on the old stuff take for example saucer separation on the TOS connie became included in ST Beyond.

[@lancerd4934]

The last time they tried to win new fans instead of fostering old ones we got _Enterprise_ so... maybe not that great an idea.

[@argebarse]

I thought the last time they tried to win new fans was Star Trek 2009 and the Kelvin timeline, which seemed to work well enough. It got a few of my non-Trekkie friends to check out the earlier series, and it reinvigorated my interest in Star Trek.

[@PanteraPersa]

Long live "Star Trek Continues"

[@Anaris10]

STC is only doing 3 more episodes sadly!

[@Danny-np3sr]

Also, the halting of Axanar by CBS and Paramount was just chicken shit.

[@FLAME4564]

I agree. Sons of bitches didint have the BALLS to accept how awsome the Quality of the Axanar production it really is. Or the fact that it was gaining support thru fucking donations SUING BECAUSE OF FUCKING DONATIONS FOR A FUCKING FAN FILMS?!? GRRRR. So yea Fuck you CBS and Paramount for ruining and sucking all of the fun out of Axanar you greedy corporate Elitist fuckers. Bah Geo Blocking to me is a fucking joke xD i mean what kind of Donkeys go and geo block shit THAT THEY FUCKING OWN?!? This to me is beyond shitting on Gene Rodenberry's grave but its also shitting on his encouragement and promotion of creafuckingtivity that HE FUCKING ENCOURAGED FROM FAN FILM MAKERS. All i can say is CBS and Paramount FUCK YOU BOTH and go to hell were you both belong you greedy fat sons of bitches fuck you both for screwing the trek fans and for this Geo Blocking shit.

[@argebarse]

I, too, presume to speak for a man long dead.

[@joshuasnore3600]

The preview for Axanar looked 30 times better than the CBS preview.

[@SociallyImpaired]

Thank you for articulating my thoughts into a video format. You know what you're talking about, you do it well and you have easily earned my subscription.

[@spauldingsreject]

Looks terrible to me

[@RazorwireReviews]

Ah the warm fuzzy feels of that Rant theme... here we go..

[@cydaliaacevedo8635]

My Rant 1--It shouldnt be online at all. It should be on TV! Lots of people still have cable but most wont pay 10 bucks for one show! 2--The tech in Discovery is way to hightech to be BEFORE Kirk. People can say its 2017 etc. whatever. a prequel should be a prequel which means it should not look like Picards tech and after. I would have used Archer's Enterprise with a new crew and do a series about the Romulan War etc (if i was doing a prequel) 3--More prequels?! I want to see Enterprisee F,G,H,I,J etc. Not more preKirk stuff. BTW: How long is Sisko going to be stuck in the wormhole?! He did tell Kassidy he would be back! Well CBS go find him! Or hears an idea..Star Trek: Titan 4-Star Trek needs to release a toy line etc for all characters! Star Wars has them!

[@KlingonCaptain]

If you can't watch the trailer because you are outside the US, I have heard it is on non-US Netflix. The first thing I noticed when I watched the trailer was, the bridge of that ship (the USS Shinzhou) is on the bottom of the saucer! They have never done that with a Starfleet ship before. In that first shot showing the bridge, the ship is clearly upside down. Later in the trailer, the camera clearly enters the bridge up from a downward position.

[@aftertheshowmoviepodcast]

The trailer makes it look kinda cheap and uninteresting as well.

[@penlightoftime]

Apparently, The Compendium was still missing some Into Darkness content. :/ The TrekCore website did a review and listed what was still missing. Anyways, good rant. It really is sad how they treat Star Trek.

[@zaranyzerak]

Ugh, why am I not surprised... Well, I'm not getting it a third time, so I'll just be happy with what I've got I guess.

[@Foebane72]

Probably because Into Darkness and ALL of the Abrams/Kelvin Timeline Trek SUCKS! End of.

[@argebarse]

ST 2009 and Beyond were fantastic, in my opinion. Into Darkness was a misstep, but I can appreciate what they were trying to do, TOS was always at its best when it was dealing with a contemporary issue in a somewhat hamfisted and preachy way.

[@IndyDefense]

And it only has the IMAX version of Into Darkness, not the regular theatrical version. Some may like IMAX, but it takes me out of the film when it constantly switches aspect ratios.

[@LainK1978]

I enjoyed all of the movies old and new; but with all movies that I go to the movies to see I go in to be entertained first and foremost. Comparing the movies to existing stuff is near the bottom of the barrel.

[@joshua42777]

I'll just watch Axanar

[@thereturningshadow]

Axanar is pretty much dead thanks to Paramount/CBS. They essentially won the court case. while the producers of Axanar are allow to make a fan made video, it can ONLY be 15 minutes long and can NOT include ANY professional actors/actresses in the content and of course Richard Hatch died. So that essentially wiped out the casting. Fan made videos also can NOT have the words Star Trek in them nor can they be tied to ANYTHING or ANYONE in current cannon of the Star Trek franchise. So again, Axanar is pretty much dead.

[@paulaburrows8660]

jammer42777 agreed it looks a lot better than Discovery, even in 15 mins

[@mattk.5258]

All 30 minutes of it, if it ever gets made. Have fun.

[@TaliaIGhul]

30 minutes of Axanar (which is/was free to watch, unlike Discovery) is probably better than this entire series.

[@ryno1509]

Talia al Ghul well I'm getting discovery on Netflix so it will be free seeing as I already pay for my subscription no matter what...

[@songokulul]

couldn't agree more with the dudes in suits being completely out of touch

[@KarlM29]

Right now I'll get my Star Trek to fix either through the expanse which I am loving and the Oraville Siri. If I watch Star Trek discovery I wait for it on Blu-ray or Netflix

[@DijaVlogsGames]

I just wanted to let you know that I'd really love more of these kinds of videos return. I don't mean less gaming stuff if you like doing it, just more (regular) "oldschool" Zaranyzerak! I'm willing to filter out the stuff I don't want to watch, I just miss these kinds of videos. They were a big part of my life a couple of years ago, as weird as that sounds.

[@JoshRazauskas]

Dude I swear sometimes it's like we share one brain! This is my video for Monday too! 😂Minus the stuff about the trailer because I didn't know. Great stuff as always.

[@wmtyrance]

Blame Gene for not looking ahead to protect his legacy. Star Trek died a long time ago to me.

[@argebarse]

His son is executive producer, his legacy is secure

[@LainK1978]

His son getting an Executive Producer credit is not any signal of Gene's legacy being secured. It is just a sign that the family made a deal with the production companies to accept that as their share, plus it is a good PR move to hype the show.

[@762rk95tp]

TNG and DS9 premiered as first run syndicated shows. Voyager and Enterprise premiered on UPN, that was Paramounts failed attempt to form own network. I generally agree on your point about Paramount and CBS acting stupid. When it comes to DVD/BR releases of movies, they should have gone the way studios usually do that. Quick release of theatrical version with limited extras and bit later special edition with every conceivable extra, including the localized poptracks on end credits JJ movies.

[@nakyer]

VOYAGER was NOT in syndication. IT was there for the launch of UPN. It was replaced by Enterprise on that same network. UPN was NOT a cable channel. It was a broadcast TV network, with local stations as affiliates. It being on cable systems was no more significant than any other local station being on a cable system.

[@zaranyzerak]

YES. And that was MENTIONED by SEVERAL PEOPLE in the COMMENTS already. TNG and DS9 premiered in syndication. Voyager and Enterprise also premiered in syndication outside the U.S. UPN did not exist as a network anywhere but the U.S.

[@bloxyman22]

How can they be so stupid?? It is like they are doing everything they can to make sure it fails. And by the way the "space" trailer is unavaible here as well, so impossible to even watch the US version.

[@Stco23]

It was on NBC not CBS. CBS owns the show because they bought Desilu Productions.

[@zaranyzerak]

That's right, I didn't think CBS sounded right for the original series...lol! Getting the networks mixed up in my rage!

[@bmasters1981]

And Paramount, by proxy (meaning that most Paramount shows [from the shortest flashes-in-the-pan to the hugest hits, across all networks, and even in syndication] are part of the CBS family now, IIRC).

[@TaliaIGhul]

I watched the Trailer. Trust me, you wouldn't be impressed. The Klingons looked...horrible.

[@zaranyzerak]

I've seen it now. Yeah, don't know what's up with that Klingon redesign... My thought was maybe these are Klingons who were the first to undergo the alteration to be "bumpy" so that's why they look weird, haven't quite got it perfected yet. Or it's just a pointless "reimagining" that's going to annoy everyone. Who knows.

[@victorfatalys1076]

Those are the JJ Abrams rebooted movie klingons so...yes they suck.

[@ציוןחדד-ו1כ]

the blingons looks like Xindi-Arboreals

[@lancerd4934]

Every Star Trek series has its own take on the appearance of klingons. Have you _seen_ the original series ones? Even DS-9 and Voyager got flak for not making the aliens look alien enough because they just slapped a forehead prosthetic on some extras. At least this one is making an effort to make them look less human. As long as they're still klingons at heart though, it really shouldn't matter what they look like. Maybe this is what klingons 'really' looked like in the minds of the TNG designers, and the old look we're used to was just the result of tech and budget limitations, who's to say?. The visual appearance always changes because every Star Trek series is a product of the fashions and social issues of the time its made. People are obsessing over it because that's all we have to go on so far, but as long as the stories are good and the characters are engaging, it really doesn't matter. It's just window dressing.

[@TaliaIGhul]

There's no excuse for bad designs. There was also a reason why in Star Trek The Next Generation episode why everyone looked human(oid). As someone else pointed out in another video, they looked like someone ripped off the designs from one of the members of the Xindi.

[@mikeyficher6873]

I suspect their deal with Netflix means that Netflix has exclusivitiy in their markets and can put out their own trailers exclusivly.

[@UGNPFU]

Personally I fear that is this series is going in the direction of "The Expanse", "Stargate Universe", and various other "Dark" science fiction shows out there. Hell they were quoted as wanting the series to be "Game of Thrones in space"..... Yeah that doesn't sound like Star Trek to me.

[@IanCullen]

Star Trek: Voyager was used to launch UPN in 1995. Enterprise pretty much came along when UPN was in its death throws.

[@zaranyzerak]

Yep, already pointed out in other comments. Momentarily forgot which one it was.

[@Stco23]

Does the animated series blu-ray have sync issues?

[@KingClovis]

Don't sell your self short, you are a hard-core Trekkie. Say it loud, say it proud...

[@Ninkyo893]

It blows my mind that one of the most beloved franchises in sci-fi history is treated with such disrespect when it comes to proper Blu-ray releases. It's like you said, the "old guard" is running these companies and they're completely out of touch when it comes to fulfilling the needs of the fan base.

[@nofrackingzone2.057]

Welcome aboard the USS Dumpster Fire.

[@richjordan6461]

Thanks for this upload, man. Great points that looked at this debacle from the POV of this as a franchise within the entertainment industry, and fans as consumers spending our buck, rather than the POV I keep seeing (which are usually basically content reviews)

[@TerrelLism]

They blocked my reaction video! hahahaha I feel you brother!

[@joshuasnore3600]

You hit it right on the head. They count the money every day. They don't care about makingA great show. All they care about is making a profitable show.

[@crazyrabbits]

Paramount just doesn't "get" social media in general. Their campaigns for some recent films like Ghost in the Shell were laughably incompetent. Major trailers for that film struggled to hit 1 million views, while most everything else tries to reach for 10k views and fails.

[@TruthIsNeverGossip]

They basically did the same with Simpsons and FXX, it's not accessible to fans outside the US.

[@Anaris10]

The Axanar video has over 3 million views......you'd think CBS/Paramount might notice!...I won't be watching ST Discovery!

[@teddyfurstman1997]

The same thing happened to SpongeBob Sponge On The Run due to COVID, the Movie has not had a Theatrical Release and moving to Paid VOD like Amazon Prime and Exclusive in the US CBS All Access in freaking 2021! This Sucks. Also, International in Canada through Netflix.

[@kevindean0000]

Unfortunately geo-blocking comes down to one of the main problems is there's no international ownership of properties. Meaning something distributed in the US by one company may be distributed by another company in other countries. Even if the distributor looks the same like if it was distributed by Paramount everywhere, there's still differences between Paramount in the USA and Paramount in Canada, UK, etc. They all want their piece of the greed pie for their region. So sometimes geo-blocking is added to protect the distribution rights holders for those other regions. So in this case, CBS is handling the distribution in the US and is likely behind the youtube channel the trailer is on. If Netflix is airing it in most other places then Netflix may be the only one that can release the trailer in those regions on their youtube channels and other places. It just sucks but it's the result of how the industries evolved and how different countries effect things. Large companies cannot exist as one corporate entity worldwide. While one country may be the governing leadership for a company, there are still individual corporations / divisions in each country they operate in so those countries get the taxes for the monies earned in those countries. They don't want Canada earnings going to the US parent company directly without getting their piece. So, you really need Canada to take over the world so the companies can operate in one global economy, so ultimately you can watch your Star Trek trailer. :) Better get started.

[@blairschirmerx1711]

CBS: "Our trailer is so shitty we don't want you to watch it."

[@franzhaas3712]

THIS IS A GOOD RANT.AS A ST. FAN I'M MORE EXCITED TO SEE SETH MCFARLANE'S ST. PARODY TV SHOW THEN ST.DISCOVERY. I MISS CAPTAIN KIRK AND PICARD.!

[@georgemurrell8464]

the Netflix trailer for ST: Discovery is geo-blocked.

[@Riddler95]

Same here Zaranyzerak. I'm also not a hardcore Star Trek fan but I like The Original Series, The Next Generation TV Show, and I love the movie franchise.

[@cmmosher8035]

The goodnews is it will be streaming on crave which I have right now for Twin Peaks.

[@JamesLawner]

What really sucks about the Star Trek Compendium is that it's only available in Region A and I have a Region B player! Once again, Paramount/CBS has screwed over Star Trek fans! They couldn't have made it Region Free??! 😤

[@90lancaster]

Check the model number of your player - many of them have a region free unlock code - alternatively if you have a Blu Ray player in your computer open the disc in VLC player and it will play any region discs fine so long as the player is open before the disc is inserted.

[@Stco23]

The only problem with CBS All Access is there is only a few Cable/Satllite providers that allow you to get CBS All Access for free. it's just like the Starz app, but Starz has more providers then CBS All Access does.

[@itsfrank_]

Sorry to hear that. I feel bad for the Star Trek fans, that can't watch the new series. Maybe one day, we will get a better Blu-rays for the Star Trek movies.

[@fanboy2015]

The Original Series was an NBC show. All three seasons. CBS bought the franchise a few years ago.

[@davidcallinicos1976]

Now Paramount pull the series from Netflix. Paramount+ hasn't even announced its launch date in the UK!

[@Motor7Mike]

I cant wait to see BB-8 and Rey finding her Mother

[@thornydig]

This ST is the final TV series, it won't survive both STD and STE.

[@peterloftus6259]

When you are in the US the Netflix content is the US content. If you take your device to say the UK the content you see is the UK content. So there is an easy way round the whole geoblocking thing.

[@bluraymadness]

Hi amazing video. What screen recording software do you use to record your screen on the computer.

[@zaranyzerak]

I use XSplit Broadcaster, same software I use for my gaming streams/videos.

[@762rk95tp]

What is VPN? Browser called opera has one built into it and that can be activated with few clicks.

[@Snoopies622]

Good rant. I like Star Trek but I'm certainly not paying ten bucks a month to watch a new series, which judging by the trailer looks pretty bad anyway.

[@argebarse]

Nobody hates Star Trek quite like the fans.

[@supermot34]

Star Trek is TOS, TOS Films, TNG, DS9 and VOY, that's it.

[@TVShowRecutsEdits]

And there is enterprise too your dumbass, i see where you going with this.

[@kynan9465]

Hey Zaranyzerak, what do you think of the Star Trek: Stardate Collection on blu-ray?

[@zaranyzerak]

Garbage. It's the same endlessly recycled crap transfers that they keep re-packaging and re-releasing. Waste of money.

[@stanhry]

They are only broadcasted episode one, I am not buy their exclusive stream service.

[@SalamiKing7]

Have the original movies been remastered for Blu-ray yet?

[@zaranyzerak]

Nope. Only Star Trek II. The others are still the horrid 2009 masters being endlessly repackaged.

[@SalamiKing7]

@@zaranyzerak Wow! That’s unbelievable!

[@zaranyzerak]

@@SalamiKing7 Yeah, it's beyond ridiculous by this point. Hopefully with Paramount finally seeming to be getting back on track with releasing remastered catalog titles on Blu-ray recently, we'll finally see these get the proper deluxe treatment they deserve.

[@JohnCastleSmokeless]

I just want them to stop lying to us about what they're going to deliver. It's not "pre-TOS", obviously, and they need to stop selling it as something it isn't.

[@iamlsusam]

Yes, they know most consumers aren’t knowledgeable enough to know about the distribution bs. So they fuck us over

[@randaljbatty]

Judging by the little that is known about the show at this date and how CBS intends to distribute the series, I think we can all safely say that it is dead upon arrival. The show itself may be awesome, but if people have to make any alterations to their cable or satellite or even those few who are now gaining access via rabbit ears in urban areas, this alone will kill the series very quickly because they simply will not have a sufficient audience. I feel like Brigadier General Buford who first encountered the Confederacy outside of Gettysburg. TV marketing should be as well thought out as warfare because it is a kind of warfare -- a war for our bucks. Buford could envision how the two great armies might clash upon Gettysburg, and he realized that the Confederacy must be denied the high ground. In those days holding the high ground was a monumental advantage. Today, CBS is competing against an array of "enemies," and it does not hold the high ground. By limiting access to this new series they are basically committing suicide. It's insane and a real tragedy for all hard-core Star Trek fans.

[@ChrisCooling]

my guess is they will have a completely different trailer for overseas audiences.

[@Jogeta5]

The teaser of Netflix is different.

[@juansoto6751]

How screwed up would it be if the new series revolved around the Axanar encounter. The trailers hint at a huge battle between the federation and the Klingon empire. This would explain why CBS started shutting down fan based productions, some of which were really good. I'll watch the first episode, out of curiosity, but I have a bad feeling about this. Oops, wrong franchise.

[@jadintenax226]

I totally Agree... Star Trek Discovery or STD, should be avoided at all costs. I would rather watch Axanar or Orville and as to the movies I just Torrent all the ones I want.

[@Foebane72]

What's wrong with the Blu-ray movie transfers? I never saw anything wrong with them.

[@yamatokira54]

If your not in the US\Canada you can watch it on Netflix.

[@PoletBally]

8:23 - Man, I wouldn't want to run into this Zaranyzerak in a dark alley.

[@arndtdj]

1. find a dozen friends, 2. each chip in 0.50, 3. wait till ST:D season 1 done, 4. take $, share logins binge, cancel CBSAA.

[@nautdead3197]

only available in the US where it's only available on cbs all access so no one in the us will watch the show lol

[@129140163]

thomas elmore Exactly. If it were on their regular broadcast feed I would watch it, but I'm not paying for a premium service to watch only one TV show. Unless/until it comes out on Netflix (which I already subscribe to, and has far more than just one TV show, which justifies the monthly subscription IMO), or CBS takes it off their "All Access" premium service and puts it on their regular feed, I will never watch Star Trek Discovery.

[@T1hitsTheHighestNote]

Just do what we in the rest of the world have done for years (so that we could get the current season of every show on Netflix, or the entire Star Trek back catalog) : Use a VPN service and change your location to anywhere else in the Netflix world!

[@zaranyzerak]

Not the point.

[@Lone432345]

They been screwing Star Trek fans for a long time.

[@kingdanzer]

you can watch it on imdb if you have not seen it but paramount of shit needs to stop screwing us over

[@zaranyzerak]

I've seen it now, it's being shown on Space here in Canada, they posted the trailer on their KZbin page a few hours later (links in the description to all of them).

[@laviliterthefirst]

CBS has been planning this for a long time that's why they have been keeping as much of their content as possible off Hulu and Netflix...but you are totally right about it, that ship sailed a long time ago. But seriously even with every show cbs ever did on access I would still find it hard to care, I'm a cordcutter and Netflix/Hulu with KZbin are all I do for like 16$ or so a month...everything eventually makes it on one of those lol.

[@esecallum]

The people at the top are isolated from reality and only look at spread sheets and margins...

[@cetriyasArtnComicsChannel]

geo blocking is stupid since most ST fans know how to get passed this so what are they trying to hide this? any production that are so tight lipped just tells me that they are not ready and don't know what to do with themselves.

[@strumdogg1]

Yes! I love a good Z Rant video. EDIT: Just watched the trailer for the first time. It looks like they put in some production value, but I can already tell there will be problems. What the hell is up with those Klingons?! Oh well, now on to the rant! :D

[@treyart1]

Funny rant, even though I'm late for the party. But hey it's been five months since I been smoke free. 👍

[@Mike20878]

Why the hell didn't they just put this on broadcast tv to begin with? The cord cutters can subscribe to their dopey streaming service. So much for bringing back the franchise.

[@halogod18]

Wait, the new show won't be on tv but a website online that you have to pay for?

[@zaranyzerak]

Correct. Unless you're outside the U.S., in which case it will be on the internet on different streaming sites you have to pay for.

[@halogod18]

Wow, that sucks ass, also is it true if this gets a season two the cast from season one won't be in it? I think I've heard that each season will have a differnt cast

[@excelents]

Its quite simple everytime you come across a geoblocked trailer simply copy and paste the KZbin web address at www.keepvid.com then click download and watch, that's what I do / did.

[@90lancaster]

The Space one is Geoblocked too.

[@martinkeeton5043]

content providers continue to complain about piracy while at the same time blocking access to legitimate sources. maybe one day they'll learn

[@condew6103]

Geoblocking is not a problem to those with sufficiently advanced network skills.

[@zaranyzerak]

It's the principle, not the process. A trailer for a show available worldwide shouldn't be geo-blocked to begin with.

[@condew6103]

My intended point is that geoblocking is useless, just like the outdated practice of blocking IP addresses to exclude people a webmaster doesn't like. Geoblocking is just an inconvenience. It would not surprise me if pirated copies get posted without the block within hours of release.

[@zaranyzerak]

Ah yes, that also is an excellent point. And yes, I'm sure this show will be very, very pirated as a result of their exclusionary marketing of it.

[@MarshalArnold]

Voyager launched UPN, not Enterprise. Just sayin.. but I agree, I don't want CBS All Access. Wish they just have it on Netflix or a normal network broadcast show that goes to Netflix or something like that after the season is done or whatever.

[@TheCGJeff]

Voyager was the one that launched UPN, not Enterprise

[@zaranyzerak]

Yep, already pointed out in other comments. Momentarily forgot which one it was.

[@Danny-np3sr]

I think I'll just watch KZbin fan films and wait for some one from Korea to download the new show on KZbin also.

[@TheGuyver1138]

someone must be paying attention, I live in the uk and watched the trailer for Discovery on youtube this afternoon so they must have changed it sometime today. Would've been interesting to hear an opinion on the trailer content I have a feeling some fans will prefer not to see the trailer anyway

[@MrPhife333]

The Star Trek franchise has been dead for awhile now. Discovery will simply put yet another nail into an already rotting coffin.

[@austinwillcut4919]

Zaranyzerak I just bought all of the Trek films in a Blu Ray box set(never owned them before) and I'm pretty mixed about the transfers so far. I thought the first 3 looked fine but not perfect, I noticed some DNR in there. When you get to part 4 it's just merely passable HD, almost upscaled DVD level and just looks like a dated Blu transfer at best. They should've used newer transfers for the set but I don't feel ripped off either because you get tons of features and some new features that aren't on those old DVDs you have. Generations looked really good actually, the DVD always looked like dog shit to me so this was a welcome upgrade IMO. I still haven't viewed the others so I can't comment on that yet. I don't like that the director's cuts aren't in the set but honestly I prefer the theatrical cut of The Motion Picture even though the movie feels like Robert Wise is jerking off to the Enterprise during the(longest!!) introduction of the ship with Kirk and Scotty. Did it really need to be that long? Did Robert Wise finally cum? Shit, man!

[@johnpendleton914]

I got same beaf as you. We are not made out of money. Not all fans of Star Trek can afford to fork out more money.

[@r3dpuma]

streaming angle = Torrents

[@johnkashka4689]

Love star trek but I'm not paying CBS more money to watch it. I already pay for cable, Amazon, hulunplus, and itunes..enough is enough

[@Ranillon]

Trust me, you are a pretty hardcore Star Trek fan. Nothing to be ashamed of, of course, as I and many here are much the same, but having "fifty plus novels" and all those DVDs - and going on this (well justified rant) - makes you more than a "casual" fan. :-)

[@zaranyzerak]

Hahaha! Welllll....okay, I guess you've got a pretty indisputable point there. What can I say, I love me some Trek! :D

[@zebunker]

If you own just one Star Trek novel you are a hardcore Star Trek fan. lol

[@dhaisley]

I thought you were going to rant on the story itself.. I can't say that I disagree with any of this. You're 100% on the mark sir.

[@Allegheny500]

If you bought multiple copies of a JJ verse Trek film to get "Content" I feel sorry for you.. I won't buy any of it as I don't consider it Star Trek except in name only. As for Discovery... if I can't watch in on the regular CBS channel then they can keep it... I have too many bills already to shell out more money for a single show on a stream my TV will not support. Hurt them in the pocket book if you want them to change.

[@zaranyzerak]

I bought the "JJ Verse" Treks precisely once - The Compendium. The earlier releases were gifts to me. Haven't bought any edition of Beyond yet. I definitely vote with my wallet with this franchise.

[@SciFiFan2012]

CBS does have a back catalogue of a lot of their older series, I subbed for the various NCIS, and Knight Rider, both versions. Who pays $70 for their cable? I have cable, dvr and internet for over $100 (comcast)

[@jasonbrebooth5390]

This is for the New star trek fans the old is for the old fans the New star trek may be goods.

[@Revkor]

actually sicne you are outside the US you get on nextflix. we in the US don't

[@wr0ngun]

What the hell is wrong with a female skipper or number one? Who cares what sex or colour the characters happen to be? All I care about is how good they are at acting their roles. This series looks very interesting to me, and I cannot wait for this to premiere. I have watched Trek for over 30 years, and I love ALL Trek.

[@bmasters1981]

Because to some people, Star Trek is a male-captains-only franchise apparently, and even Kathryn Janeway spoiled the franchise when Voyager came on the scene (she was, IIRC, the first female captain of a major Trek series).