Star Trek Discovery S5E6 Breakdown & Review - Is Tilly Now Discovery's Best Character?

[@robertrawley1115]

*Whistlespeak was NOT described in the episode as an everyday language.* It was described as a Method of Communication over distances, as used by the woman who was guiding travelers toward their settlement. (Voice becoming indistinct where whistle sound like bird calls can travel further. Something WE know today.) At least, that's what I heard in the beginning description of Whistlespeak. Whistlespeak, together with their Healing of the woman coughing and suffering from the Sand with the use of 'sound' and native techniques was a way of showing these Native Peoples were not as backwards as Colonial explorers often viewed people from different cultures. I agree the Prime Directive had probably advanced after 800 years... (It was backwards 'we know best' thinking when it was created) And, Burnham as an Anthropologist would have had an even better perspective on NOT treating native cultures like they were children. At least that's what I took from this episode's approach and writing. Respectfully, to me this episode is worth another look with these points in mind, before deciding you agree or disagree.

[@stevenbilodeau246]

I agree with every observation you made in your review.

[@robertrawley1115]

*I think I'm missing something about the Culber storyline this season...* Paul's Stametz in Season 1 joined with the Mycelium Network so Discovery could traverse the galaxy, almost killing himself in the beginning. Culber merged with another consciousness that gave him a life-altering experience. Culber and Stametz are a happy normal married couple. (Welcome TV in the 21st century!) It makes absolutely no sense to me that these two can't talk about their experiences together. Am I really missing something in the storyline of this season?

[@eric-rounds]

I completely agree with you. Their chemistry is absent. They are stiff in their connections. What really bothers me is how Stamits is completely oblivious when Culber is going through a challenge. That happened when he came back to life from the mycelium network. And it’s happening again now when he’s trying to express how he feels after the trill switch.

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

Tilly has been my favorite character since the Time Loop episode with Harry Mudd. She was becoming my favorite since the scene where she told Michael "you took my bed". She is the way in which kids can feel like .. someday.. I could contribute to The Federation.

[@tonydagostino6158]

It seemed like this must've been written by the second string. The mutated moss! Give me a break. The control panel malfs so it must leak radiation? The failure of Tilly to extinguish the flames consuming oxygen? The "vacuum chamber" that never achieved vacuum yet the tower brought the rain nonetheless? It just all seemed contrived and poorly thought out

[@eric-rounds]

It all felt so wonky, like last week’s episode. Your observations are on point… vacuum chamber, they left the fire torches burning while they are passing out… poor writing

[@mrtiggar]

Still hate they had no Klingon episode once they went to the future ... Definitely a failure of the writing

[@chriswood1210]

They already ruined the Romulans, Vulcans, by joining them together. Then ruined the Breen, with them showing their faces. I'm sure the klingons are happy, they aren't being shown. They'd be to embarrassed on how Discovery would mess up their culture as well.

[@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp]

I guess I couldn't disagree more strongly about Tilly's line about your little sh*t. It makes her a character that comes out of today. It is impossible to leave in the universe of Star Trek that these characters would speak with our idioms. And especially this one which I can't even imagine working today because they hardly knew each other. Of course the critics universally say that it's just simply too much to suspend our disbelief that she could win a race in her condition. I would also add that this episode doesn't work because it doesn't have the confidence to pursue a single story. It could be about some character who believes a cooperation and not competition is beneficial in some way. That's a great idea. It could make a great episode. But how do you tell such an episode if you also have to tell a story about religious sacrifice and then you also have to tell the story about Culber. Answer your three separate stories in each one of them feels like you just turning the channel instead of developing them.

[@WhatDidIMiss]

But remember, Tilly isn't from the 32nd century she is from the 23rd century, which is close enough to our current time that it would make sense for her to still use the vernacular.

[@AnnoyingCritic-is7rp]

@@WhatDidIMiss I just disagree that this idiom would stick around a couple hundred years, and translate to this alien world. And again even if it did it is at a level of familiarity which is not warranted. I don't think it's just this line from Tilley it's lots of lines from lots of characters in Discovery. All the swearing that you hear is all really idiomatic to our time, And it makes harder to suspend our disbelief that mankind can live in a post-scarcity future which is solve problems like discrimination and poverty and disease. And we do that because then we can write stories of races of look to our future and have hope in it.

[@robertheinrich2994]

since hitoroshi is a japanese first name, I'd like to know if that is a hidden easter egg aswell. but I haven't found any clues on why that is.

[@yoshiplz]

Thank you for all your work in making these STD breakdowns and reviews

[@kanebunce3791]

I doubt the writers were drawing from The Lottery as their inspiration. Rather they were liking drawing from what is the probable inspiration for the Lottery, i.e., real life ancient cultures that sacrificed people to the gods. In this case it was specifically those that done human sacrifices so the gods would give them rain.

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

Idea: Harmonica Speak

[@chriswood1210]

This whole story line is utter rot. Cubler is the most boring character, right behind him are any members of the bridge crew and then Adira. Cubler should just jump in the sack with Book. They spend so much time together sharing their feelings. Hell they spend more time together, then Cubler spends in sick bay or with his husband. At least a cheating husband is better then some dull doctor

[@SuperWhatever1978]

Disappointed? With STD? 😲 All I have to say, THANK YOU for taking the pain away from me.

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

Spirituality does not automatically assume a god. It seems to assume an afterlife or an eternal aspect of self. Gods are a whole separate set of claims. Neither god claims nor soul clams as we know them seem possible however. Feelings. Culber is having feelings. Those are real.

[@bbbl67]

Yeah, decidedly average episode. But Disco has had some bangers already this season. And I noticed the similarity between this episode and the TOS Paradise Lost episode.

[@pop1348]

Fire in a vaccum chamber ?

[@claudiaanderson6210]

Why is it hard to reason through the idea that God is not a miraculous being, but Someone whose creative acts are based on reason, and a deep, fundamental knowledge of the discipline we call science - a knowledge that is complete and that goes down to the molecular, even sub-particle levels? After all, where do you think science comes from? What if its best and highest role ought to be to discover how God did it all, rather than to prove somehow that He didn't and can't possibly be real?

[@scottwasser8260]

I believe God hide his/her creations in science for us to discover.

[@BasaiDai]

Tilly is the worst character in the show and that is some feat when that includes Captain Michael Burnham Almighty

[@ajshapiro1269]

Dead on!

[@Tyrone-Ward]

People seem to like her. I just think she's annoying

[@ajshapiro1269]

@@Tyrone-Ward Devoid of any je ne sais quoi...

[@davidjohnson8218]

Really boring - this looking for the puzzle pces is just so lame. Just silly.

[@eric-rounds]

Yup AND each price they find, they attach it to the cluster they have, and then just leave in on a table and walk out of the unguarded room.

[@billphillips5821]

A very predictable and boring episode. Given the limited number of episodes in the final season of the series, I felt cheated.

[@martinsenoner8186]

I liked the episode

[@thegooddoctor6719]

Would someone please give Tilly a red shirt and be done with this Star Trek character.......

[@mrtiggar]

Universal translator

[@giantclam1822]

Nahhhhhh, just the biggest

[@cbcinfla]

1. Drinking game: Take a shot every time this creator says "really." Protip: you'll be drunk by time marker 30 seconds :P 2. The Tilly character is NOT, in any way, compelling or interesting. Barf.

[@Bilsey007]

This show really, really sucks..

[@Martin-gf1hh]

Woke trek is so embarrassing

[@ajshapiro1269]

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[@Bilsey007]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮Show is just awful..