STAR TREK | Marina Sirtis - Dressing the Future

Marina Sirtis gives us insights into the Star Trek TNG/DS9 wardrobe, together with costume designer Robert Blackman.
This was a special DVD purchase made a long time ago, I guess around 2006 or so. I didn´t find the full record on KZbin, so I decided to upload it.
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[@lazycalm41]

I once had the pleasure of meeting Marina in Planet Hollywood in London. She was on the table next to ours and my wife kept egging me on to say hello to her as it seemed no one recognised her apart from us. She was so lovely and we chatted briefly during which she signed my menu which I still have today. I have to add in person she was even more gorgeous than she looks on screen!

[@royroblox]

Marina is so personable and friendly here ... it kind of makes me sad how the character they wrote didn’t show that most of the time! She and TNG are incredible and I’m glad they are proud of the show still :)

[@SantomPh]

She was originally a sex-crazed Deltan (the bald female alien in ST:Motion Picture) so we should be grateful

[@ashez2ashes]

Troy talking about star trek underwear is fantastic.

[@thermalreboot]

modeling it would be even better.

[@aim120C]

@@thermalreboot just look at TNG. theres some of that sprinkled in the show.

[@thermalreboot]

@@aim120C Oh, I know, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see it again.

[@dimsumboy22]

Troi

[@lincolnparc8897]

I just love her, she really enjoyed doing the show and enjoys Star Trek and entertaining her fans love you Marina!!

[@georgeholland2934]

The subtle mid-run modification to the TNG uniform definitely was an improvement on the pyjama look. That collar added some gravitas. Interesting to hear Robert Blackman's explanation.

[@999benhonda]

considering TNG still looks good even today, I'd say they did a good job

[@nathangarcia4522]

I've been watching TOS and TNG lately and it suddenly dawned on me that currently we are farther from the debut of TNG than TNG's debut was to TOS debut. I think TNG holds up really well today and that's why it doesn't seem as far back as it really is. Wow, 33 years.

[@redpillsatori3020]

Old TNG and TOS uniforms really do look like pajamas tho

[@chironOwlglass]

Yep, all that hand-dyed silk on various alien worlds is still beautiful

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@nathangarcia4522 and they all came back and knocked it out of the park for Picard season 3.

[@piotrd.4850]

Marina Sirtis is probably MOST UNDERUTILIZED actress ever. In whole two episodes (western and romulan ones) she really pulled her weight and more! She also does amazing job on conventions and other stuff - and in her younger years and severall styles she looked...welll :D

[@sid2112]

The scene in chain of command when Jellico made her put some clothes on was my favorite.

[@niceguy2171]

Shows just how much thought..and hard work went into the making of this series, and the absolute brilliance of the people involved who 'made it so'

[@MrAnswerification]

Make it sew.

[@GrandmaKeith]

It was always cool that Gene's wife played a part in the show.

[@howardkerr8174]

She was in at least one of Gene's NON Star Trek shows, though the name escapes me at the moment, as were several of the co-stars of the original Trek. (It was a show about a young serviceman, and starred Gary Lockwood who would appear in one of the better Star Trek episodes.)

[@LostCause-69]

Majel was in every episode of Star Trek maybe not physically present in every episode, but she was in voice. She was the computer voice.

[@eugeneendres5846]

I don't know if it was the character or what - but whenever she came on, she annoyed the shit out of me. And the episode was usually boring. I liked her on the original Star Trek. She was a hunk of woman in that series and a much more serious actress on that show. But not the remake.

[@connorm997]

@@eugeneendres5846 yeah Lwaxana Troi is an acquired taste

[@NighteyesJP]

@@eugeneendres5846 Lwaxana was poorly written in TNG and didn't become tolerable until DS9. Her character was given a bit more depth and restraint, and she had a very strong cast to work with.

[@jeridoney7604]

I once had the honor and privilege of working with Mr. Blackman and really enjoyed seeing all of the costuming he and his crew did for all of those Star Trek years.

[@jordansullivan5764]

Marina's so funny.

[@randomgoats]

Yeah she's one person I'd really like to meet

[@Astrologist]

Her accent is much more refined here compared to today. I feel like she was making her cockney accent more posh for US audiences back then

[@dennisp.2147]

Agreed. It was quite jarring to actually hear her in person for the first time after her "troi" accent. She sounded like Liza Dolittle.

[@rpg5017]

you know what the TNG scores signify to me...Hope. And it gets really emotional. Maybe one day the Human Race will work as One for the common good...the Planet.

[@ezridax]

Luuuuuuuv the scores

[@kermitdafrog8]

The replicator was what did away with money. You didn't need money to get something any more. Just get it from the replicator.

[@Ironbuket]

@@kermitdafrog8 In reality if you did away with poverty and getting a job was totally optionally a huge segment of sociaety would be very happy to sit on a sofa their entire lives playing xbox Also remember that apparently you cant replicate latinum

[@kermitdafrog8]

@@Ironbuket true. They would.

[@kermitdafrog8]

@@Ironbuket the thing that caused humans to work together was the visitation of alien life. And war.

[@gambitbullet]

No matter what new interpretation on Startrek comes out. TNG will always be the measuring stick, the flag bearer! Perfection

[@carstenhansen5757]

Not the first 3 seasons, but after that it got a lot better.

[@gambitbullet]

@@carstenhansen5757 2 onwards for me

[@patrickdunner39]

The costume designer Bob Blackman did a great job. 👍 Brilliant. High five 🖐.

[@raymondweaver8526]

Interesting piece

[@lexingtonduncan3732]

9:30 That wonderful melancholic Star Trek theme playing in the background is my absolute favorite.

[@Bertie_Ahern]

Star Trek First Contact theme

[@albertbatfinder5240]

Marina could have a very comfortable retirement auctioning off one or two “genuine, only worn once, with empathy” push-up bras a year.

[@StephEWaterstram]

Marina is homesick for the Cast crew and production of the TNG show because it was the closest thing She had to family.

[@tonoornottono]

:( why do you say that

[@franceslambert8070]

Thank you!!! Ms. Barrett played my favorite Betazed, and Ms. Sirtis was excellent as the daughter.

[@Brandanus]

"a slight pyjama look" is a nice understatement, but I was watching TNG round mignight anyways, using ancient timeshift with "VHS"

[@PapaBushka]

Re: Lwaxana Troi - "She's like Antie Mame". THANK YOU! I never could quite put my fiinger on of whom she reminded me.

[@truthiseverything9511]

"Enormous learning curve... like marathon running uphill... no history in the future". Robert Blackman says he was "stunned by how much we had created every week". I was always stunned as a viewer watching those first TV airings. My mother is an excellent seamstress who made a Captain's uniform for me in 2001 when I was twenty-one and I looked great. I wore it into work where I was designing socks onto floppy disks that I fed into huge, round knitting machines in our downstairs factory.

[@GEhotpants101]

This is great. Seeing them talk about the costume design is a treat. It's the little details like this that really brought the show to life. Some of the costumes honestly were terrible, but the good ones were great! I can rewatch TNG over and over again just to appreciate the little artistic details put in. One of these days maybe I'll compile all the costumes used in TNG. (And if I'm feeling really motivated, all the series, wouldn't that be a project.) I'd probably be the only one interested, but I think it would be fun.

[@ShaundraLee1920]

You wouldn't be the only one by a long shot. As a someone who enjoys sewing, arts, fashion and crafts, I'd be super interested. Do you have an instragram or someone other website that details this work. If not, please create one if you are able to do this idea. I also follow several interesting Tumblr accounts that have to do with Trek wear, so to speak.

[@michaelbrown1101]

Marina, our beautiful goddess, we love you!

[@benw9949]

Those future uniforms looked great, I thought, a nice compromise between formal and casual, and they looked comfortable and functional. -- I'm laughing about the women's-added bras and the men's padded shorts. -- And they always seemed to put Troi in a girly-girl or revealing outfit, while Dr. Crusher got a business-like uniform. Then Guinan got to look casual all the time, with those funky hats to top it off.

[@8698gil]

Guinan wasn't actually a star fleet officer, she was a bartender, so she wasn't required to wear a uniform. I always thought Troi should have been wearing a uniform, not that skin tight catsuit she always wore.

[@koreanpathfinder]

9:38 Blackman is Borg. Confirmed.

[@richardclarke376]

I love Marina. Did bit parts in the UK, including a 2 second cameo in the last episode of 'the Kelly Monteith show'. Went to the USA and knocked it out the park!

[@drkvenger]

The TOS and TNG uniforms are so enduring that even TDS eventually changed from their gaudy blue gold uniforms to the brighter multi color motif of the TNG.

[@heperile]

I LOVE the costumes in TNG, there's definitely strong 80s elements in a lot of the "casual" outfits (which I love), but everything still looks great 30+ years later

[@ireneparkin3360]

I met Marina Sirtis at Emcom a few months ago. She called me darling. I only found out that later she's English American.

[@veronika4870]

LOL the underwear never knew they had that extra as well. Thought just what the actors came in with, very interesting. Love the fact that Marina is partly responsible for it.

[@michaeld8280]

Ah the 80s when the push up bra was space aged tech....

[@pauloliver1842]

90's

[@stevenmcguinness4751]

This was 1994

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

@@stevenmcguinness4751 This behind the scenes tour was filmed in 1994 apparently after the show had wrapped, they're talking about the final episode in the past tense. The show premiered in 1987.

[@unadomandaperte]

I can already hear Marina telling guys: MY EYES ARE UP HERE!

[@BJovanovic1987]

3:00 Swear to God, her laugh is so CUTE.

[@BookOfFaustus]

Really seems like Marina Sirtis and Counselor Troi are sort of opposite personalities

[@JamesFrew1]

John Dee Is Me completely opposite!

[@S-anneli]

I love the blue big jumper Troi wears in the sceen showing someone the Ten Forward. I took a picture of from the screen, because I want to make a similar one for my self.

[@eugeneendres5846]

I loved Marina - A.K.A Deanna Troy. She was so beautiful and a very fine actress.

[@scopex2749]

Click like if you agree Troy looked best in her initial ‘Minidress’ uniform that she calls her ‘intergalactic cheer leader outfit’! Good one Marina! I still cannot believe its ‘all over’.......on SKY in the UK thankfully they repeat the whole series so often it never ages.

[@Nige031077]

I loved her outfit, plus the boots were a cute nod to the Trek outfits for TOS.

[@tonoornottono]

i thought she looked pretty in the normal sf uniform

[@ZENITH-tr8xy]

that man is an artist in his own right,

[@jordansullivan5764]

What amazing costume design!

[@howardkerr8174]

For all the speculation about the uniform colors, there is a video or even tv commercial circulating about how "unlucky" it is/was to be a cast member of the original Star Trek if you wore the red tunic. Most of the folks killed throughout the series wore those red tunics. As someone who served in the Armed Forces, I guess it is part of the democratization of Star Fleet that everyone, officer and enlisted, wore the same work uniform?

[@cynthiamerrick2335]

No in the original Trek two things you did not want 1 to be the first person going down to a plant as you may not come back..and 2 do not wear that red uniform.. you may not really come back.

[@danielkellyuk]

Those All Good Things uniforms were great. I wish they'd used them for Picard.

[@Nocturne22]

I'm still stunned those season 1 uniforms made it past the first costuming session. Riker's moobs are busting out of his, for heaven's sake

[@Livingfoodlove]

Nocturne22 What are moobs?

[@pwnmeisterage]

@@Livingfoodlove moobs = man-boobs. Frakes gradually gained unflattering weight while Riker was supposed to be a fit and feisty man of action, the difference grew a little more obvious each season. Towards the end he probably needed a body corset more than Shatner did.

[@Livingfoodlove]

P Thanks for explaining.

[@aaronbays4]

Its so funny that I can totally see my aunt's rather brash style(she's 62) in Majel Barrett. Yeah TNG might have been 25-30 years ago, but man does it stay relevant IMO. My aunt has always dyed her hair red, tried her best to look like a tanned version of Lucelle Ball. Yet she could totally rock some of those crazy ass dresses/costumes of Lwaxana Troi and sincerely look like they were made for her.

[@denisemayosky1955]

I bet she's just as much of a brash, free-spirited, outgoing type like Lwaxana Troi was. I loved her character! We would totally have hit it off, I think.😊

[@jeffreybischoff6772]

My favorite two uniforms would be first the monster maroon used from Wrath of Khan to Undiscovered Country and then the black and gray shoulders with the color collars used from First Contact to Nemesis.

[@simjo59]

I hated the uniforms the first two years. It didn't take much imagination to see a flowing black cape fastened around the neckline. The 'Caped Crusader' look.

[@cynthiamerrick2335]

I enjoyed this for a few reasons but the main one is I got to be in that dressing room, and met some really nice wardrobe ladies and if anyone out there knows Ducky tell her the one who twelles ( spelled wrong sorry) her thumbs remembers her with warm regards ,as all the ladies who helped me... I was in the dressing room across from the spot were the uniforms were. I even looked through them and found some I knew the names of the extra who wore them... See Thanks to Liza Gibbons I had the chance to do a walk on well really a stand on on DS9 in 1996. So I got to have the honor of seeing so much and meeting a few of the actors. like Mr Shimmerman who I omoxed him , OHH Yes I did...Talked to Nana Visitor, and some very nice crewmen and extras.. Some day I may get to meet Ms Sirtis,,, , thanks to a friend who did on line trek movies I have met many I never thought I would have. If you ever get to Hollywood do get there after the Santa Ana winds have got through as they will blow all the smog away and you will get a nice view of the Hollywood sign...or so I was told by everyone I met.. ok I have been a Trek fan since the first series it was something my dad and I could watch together. he would always tell me remember this or that some day we will have it... So to all series of Trek THANK YOU for the entertainment, and for showing there would be a more involved place for females.. and all the lovely hours I spent with a group of people who enjoyed it as much as me and all the friends I got to know over my (cough Cough ) Years of being a fan... You brought more then a show and characters in to my live you brought a whole universe to think about. and in a few hours NASA astronauts Christina Koch and Jessica Meir will make “HERstory,” as NASA is calling it, with the first all-female spacewalk.. God bless and be safe my prayers go out to you.

[@cynthiamerrick2335]

Some one here asked about the clothing if it caused trouble here is a link to tell all about the clothing ..www.ranker.com/list/wardrobe-secrets-from-stark-trek/hannah-collins?ref=browse_list&l=1

[@mysterymayhem7020]

It is interesting to see their take on uniforms 25 years in the future and what the uniforms became for Star Trek Picard. There are definitely some similarities between the two which is cool.

[@THEWOOKIENESS]

Good girl with greek roots Robert Blackman did an outstanding job !

[@jemsterr]

I've been watching so much Major Grin, I was expecting a very different video, lol. But I enjoyed it.

[@vanessaolgun9516]

This woman is so beautiful. Amazing. And she’s witty. I wish I could meet her.

[@Biber0315]

Interesting that the uniform color designations changed from the original series.

[@AliaOfTheKnife10191]

Marina disowning the mannequin with hips, oh how times have changed. Now slimthicc is the look.

[@crystalball6358]

Marina's got beautiful hair!

[@chironOwlglass]

The uniforms looking like pajamas was one of the best things about them, though. Any time anyone ended up stuck in an alien culture, the aliens invariably referred to their uniforms as "pajamas." One of my favorite things about the show!

[@sptony2718]

Troi in the blue medical skirt was my favorite outfit. But I can also see why they gave her those one piece overalls later.

[@vornamenachname5589]

She wears the blue skirt at first in "chains of command", when she ordered so by the cpt. Jellico. and from then till the end of the show.

[@highestcount]

Thank you for uploading this!

[@p.herrmann4538]

awww keiko and miles were so cute xD

[@petkokrushev3840]

It's amazing how different she is in real life

[@cruiseguitar]

Marina is a total delight, so funny and engaging!

[@MajesticEntertainmentNews]

Thanks for posting! Love this! Just liked and subscribed :)

[@superfly4137]

She definitely looks different in real life vs when she plays Troy on set.

[@Frankincensedjb123]

Commander Cleavage was always my favorite

[@dougraddi908]

Marina is so beautiful and even today she looks great

[@LittleMacscorner]

manI used to watch her as a kid and despite being married my wife and I both agree we would totally sleep with her!!! It is so interesting to see the difference between the character and the actress. My wife and I have now become enamored by British people.

[@Leroyteam]

Little Mac Fascinating, really weird. But still fascinating.

[@richard759]

Little Mac well she was British born, but went to LA already in the 80s, so she seems pretty American to me 😂 but I understand your point...

[@robinvan1983]

Have you seen Geordie Shore... That should cure you about British people. This is coming From a British Person

[@TAURON85]

Hold on mate! That's show is about a certain layer of society. Other nations has these kind of people too. Please do not generalize a whole nation! Plus Marina has a fake british accent. She's in fact Greek afaik.

[@Lumibear.]

Why hello, I am British, wink wink.

[@robinthrush9672]

Never understood how the body stocking outfits made it into the show. They look really silly. I think the skirts some of the background guys wore would have been less silly.

[@hindsightpov4218]

Robin Thrush It’s funny how the leggings looked really 1980s and kinda silly, but would come back in style in recent years. The guy skirts some of the extras wore was supposed to convey the unisex idea that whatever the guys could wear the girls could also and vice versa.

[@elizagaskell7957]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't they use the skirts in Season 1 of TNG, then in Season 2 onwards they all worn pants/trousers?

[@MistedMind]

@@elizagaskell7957 As a gender-bender I sadly confirm :( Only recently noticed they had skirts for men at all, and only used them a few times. Well, still they had them ;)

[@Megaredronin]

i always wished they had reverted to the gold for command and data should have been in science blue which would have contrasted quite lovely with his android skin! for the formal dress uniforms they should have added medal ribbons and gold and silver bands on the sleeves loved the first uniform updates and the future communicators very cool miss those!! :)

[@gregwarner3753]

Trek uniforms were the most difficult to accept parts of the fantasy. Cloths without pockets are absurd.

[@solstice2318]

OK, OK, OK.. I admit it. I need to see some of the episodes again. Ach...

[@UnitSe7en]

Don't know how they can turn Marina in real life who is quite beautiful, into Troi who is somehow goofy and frumpy and looks like that girl at school that no-one wanted to sit next to.

[@femalesupremacistoverlord6800]

I would love to own a Starfleet bra 😂 All the ladies of Trek say how great they are.

[@nimueh4298]

Marina should have done the show with her natural accent.

[@nagualdesign]

A cockney Betazoid? 😊 That's a bit too Pythonesque.

[@Royalroadtotheunc]

But then we would never had heard what a Betazoid accent sounds like! 😁

[@dennisp.2147]

Her accent here is a whole lot more RP than it is in real life.

[@tomf3150]

I miss mirror Uhura costume...

[@rogerchurch3804]

deeana troy if she could read my mind when she walked on to the helm her wardrobe oh my i loved her!!!*

[@christinemacmacleod4880]

I always wondered why they didn’t do something about the main uniform jacket because you always see the crew pulling them down. I assume they rode up.

[@braddywarbucks]

Marina looks better with age. How is that possible?

[@TomTom-rh5gk]

I love Marina Sirtis. I used to hate Troy because acted like she was a super women but she wasn't special at all. Now I see what Marina was trying to do with the character. I like Troy.

[@theostaschik6870]

she did not close the door after her.

[@NOWtheband]

I reckon the camera-person or crew behind closed it, so it should be fine.

[@garyroberts1906]

I love you, brother Robert!

[@williamroberts5716]

I miss the bell-bottomish puffy pant flared cuffs of TOS and movie era. My buddy tried and failed to convince me they were a feature that helped the crew to defend against gravity on alien planets.

[@stewsretroreviews]

Marina sounds so much nicer back then and classy, not so much now. But still a funny woman.

[@Mxyzptlksac]

Paul S shows always been that way,

[@Kratax]

Those collars on red suites look like they are meant to be there. Without it looks weird / poor. Looks like at some point they changed red for command, because in the old series Kirk was using yellow.

[@Kratax]

Fascinating. But the color was gold by the book.

[@robertknight4672]

Kratax Kirk did have that other shirt that was sort of green the one with the v-neck.

[@venus_envy]

Yes, they did change the colours, in the films before TNG ever aired. Are you just finding out about this now? It happened like 40 years ago.

[@darkhighwayman1757]

I saw a vid where Jerry said that the collar when she sat down pressed on her carotid artery and made her pass out

[@ender4life]

Marina rocking the FULL BODY ROSARY.

[@DukeBX]

Marina was such a babe. 😍

[@irishtexan899]

Dude.... She is still a babe. She never lost her babe-ness. :-)

[@ArthurMcGDM]

I didn’t realize the colors mattered..

[@0ADVISOR0]

Every time, some text was displayed and that ripping sound was played, I thought a costumed was ripped apart...

[@chrisst8922]

Why weren't the bras in the three colours too?

[@MrRar66]

3:05 Wow First star trek item that makes me say TMI

[@anonymouschange287]

So it’s more like Red: command Blue/green: Science Gold: everything else

[@st0ox]

The future ones look 25% different from the Picard series.

[@dosmastrify]

What DVD did you rip this from?

[@richard759]

I think it was that one www.amazon.com/STAR-TREK-Next-Generation-Season/dp/B00CFWZ39O

[@chadporter5907]

A 24th century Esienhower style outfit , well we shall see about that

[@marksheiman1538]

It's Eisenhower. Why not. If got the upper body yes!

[@fjccommish]

When Woopsie Goldberg is your voice of wisdom, you have a big problem.

[@ricardogalvan1031]

Well, it was Guinon, not Whoopie. The writers were the voice of wisdom.

[@Ottophil]

fjvideo whoopie is very smart especially when it comes to politics. She really triggers the conservatives

[@fjccommish]

@@Ottophil LOL out loud. Man has sex with 13 year old. Woopsie says "it's not rape rape". Woopsie's daughter is pregnant. Woopsie urges her daughter to kill the baby. When Woopsie's mom convinces Woopsie's daughter not to kill the baby, Woopsie gets mad at her mom. When interviewing Don Jr (may have been Eric) Woopsie interrupted him when he said she had been calling for Trump's impeachment since a day after he won. Woopsie called him out, claiming that never happened. The day after Trump was elected, Woopsie said "impeach his ass..." She's not only ignorant, but she's evil.

[@Goldenfightinglink]

Holy crap, never knew she was originally british, or, at least has a english dialect

[@christopherdean1326]

Tottenham, North London iirc.

[@chrispeplinski7306]

I don’t remember this on the season 7 dvds.

[@Wulfcry]

Wow all that dressing was this huge to fill.

[@squatch545]

Why would they make the officers and commanders colors red and the security and engineering colors gold, when it was the exact opposite in the original series? Makes no sense.

[@richard759]

Was this posted somewhere?

[@PyroluxAemilius]

I know your comment is a couple weeks old but thought I'd answer. About when you posted your question/comment, it was the 30 year anniversary of the debut of ST: TNG, so people were most likely feeling nostalgic and watching ST stuff on youtube and probably popped up into some feeds. I've been slowly rewatching some of TNG and Voyager on Netflix these last few months, while watching interviews from conventions and behind the scene stuff for TNG here on youtube once in a while as well and this popped into "you might be interested in" feed because of that.

[@IN-tm8mw]

2019 now and this showed up on my recommends after watching a few TNG clips on youtube. i never saw this before so its funny