Star Trek Mistakes That Are Hard To Ignore

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Few franchises have enthusiasts quite as devoted as Star Trek fans. Plenty of Trekkies will obsess over every tiny detail in the Star Trek TV shows and movies, so creators are constantly on the lookout to make sure there aren’t any mistakes or contradictions in their storytelling.
However, since the franchise includes many continuities and alternate realities, there are bound to be some things that don’t quite add up. From the Next Generation character who never seemed to get consistent characterization to Picard’s map that was missing New Zealand, let’s take a look at some Star Trek mistakes that are just really hard to ignore.
#StarTrek #Mistakes #Hollywood
What's up with O'Brien? | 0:00
A terrible fight scene | 1:26
Nero looks pretty lazy | 2:31
Missing New Zealand | 3:48
Watching a black hole | 4:40
Pike's glaring mistake | 5:30
Varying transporter power | 6:36
The Squire of Gothos | 7:25
Chekov and Khan | 8:18
Star Trek's breathing computer | 9:15
Messy Warp speed | 10:15
Data's speech patterns | 11:14
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@GrungeHQ
@GrungeHQ 4 жыл бұрын
Which Star Trek series is your favorite (mistakes and all)?
@h.borter5367
@h.borter5367 4 жыл бұрын
I love DS9. Always have always will♥️
@Thyranel
@Thyranel 4 жыл бұрын
Voyager hands down mostly because they have the most of the borgs
@mervharding917
@mervharding917 4 жыл бұрын
City on the edge of forever
@richarddismore5901
@richarddismore5901 4 жыл бұрын
TNG
@RH-zt9ph
@RH-zt9ph 4 жыл бұрын
The original, by far the best writing.
@BrooklynKnight
@BrooklynKnight 4 жыл бұрын
TNG - DS9 - VOY and ENT ALL had episodes with transporter accidents and their consequences including reversing age, duplication, splitting, crossing universes, long term storage of a living being, fusing 3 distinct lifeforms into one unique being, the list goes on man. Like wtf did you research this article at all before writing and producing it?
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 4 жыл бұрын
The Animated Series had an episode with transporter used to cure artificial aging or radiation damage, something similar to Pulaski in TNG. In this story, they had the landing party's transporter scans from beaming down. They sent them back through to repair the cellular damage - it worked, reset everybody's cells to nice and healthy, but also reset the rest of their bodies, too - Kirk, Spock, McCoy, & redshirt lost all memory of the events of the story. It posed some interesting theoretical & ethical questions (as did James Blish's classic Spock Must Die!), but simultaneously gave transporters near-unlimited deus ex machina power to fix things as well as a trump card to make such power impractical to use.
@Heypeeps10092
@Heypeeps10092 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the Orginial Series have an episode where the transporter split Kirk into his good and evil sides?
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 4 жыл бұрын
@@Heypeeps10092 yes.
@conneycandy669
@conneycandy669 4 жыл бұрын
neelix & tuvok being fused LOL I felt so bad that I & evrry1 hated him for not wanting to stop existing & go back to the 2ppl he was supposed to be 😬awkward
@mallios13
@mallios13 4 жыл бұрын
Tuvix is a great episode of how the writing doesn't abide by its own logic. It's an utter failure of Trek's own internal rules. It's also a failure of philosophy, especially given the sci-fi wizardry at their disposal. An alien plant could not prompt symbiogenesis with two unrelated animal lifeforms (Neelix and Tuvok in this case), as the plant, Tuvok and Neelix are all alien to each other, and the plant's symbiogenesis would not be compatible with non-plant lifeforms. The transporters also rely on pattern locks and biofilters, so everything being transported would be done in a separate fashion, there should be no crossing over of different lifeforms anyway, just because the transporter can operate on several targets at once. The transporter would prevent the whole thing from happening, it absolutely would not be the catalyst of it. Tuvix claims that Tuvok and Neelix were not truly dead as they lived on in him; by his own puerile logic, separating him back into Neelix and Tuvok would not mean his own death, as he would live on in them. The episode also completely glosses over the mental, emotional, and biological complications that would immediately arise over two people and a plant being forcibly merged into one being. Tuvix wouldn't immediately acclimate to being the combination of two wholly different people, he wouldn't adopt his own identity, and would undoubtedly be thrust into so much existential turmoil that he'd beg to be separated, with Tuvok and Neelix undergoing years of mental therapy. Tuvix would also likely immediately endure organ failure all across the board as two unrelated alien species and a plant were forced into one body, prompting a variety of anatomical conflicts and rejections. But even if we acknowledge that this accident could occur and Tuvix is totally healthy and mentally/emotionally secure, separating him wouldn't have to result in his death, as replicators, transporters, and appropriate biomatter could be provided to not only restore Tuvok and Neelix, but retain Tuvix. The episode could've ended with Tuvix surviving and electing to leave the ship to pursue a life in the Delta Quadrant.
@michaelscott1114
@michaelscott1114 3 жыл бұрын
They forgot the biggest mistake. In Star Trek Generations, Scotty believes that Kirk died on the Enterprise B, but later in the Star Trek: TNG episode "Relics", Scotty thinks that Kirk is still alive.
@gheilers
@gheilers 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty was old, and suffering from dementia, by that point.
@lotstodo
@lotstodo Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was big. But they gave us him drinking Something Green with Data.
@L1z43vr
@L1z43vr Жыл бұрын
@@gheilers He’s literally up and back to working at the episode’s end, plus he’s from the late 23rd century, even if he had dementia, they’d have already found a cure for it.
@EvenStarLoveAnanda
@EvenStarLoveAnanda 3 жыл бұрын
I have never noticed that the computer voice has breath. But I would imagine that a futuristic Computer voice would have simulated breath to make it more realistic.
@geoffshang3564
@geoffshang3564 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, some text-to-speech systems today breathe. Probably the best known is the Alex voice which has been included in Mac OS since 2009. Personally, I think it's a bit creepy, but it would probably be ok with a voice that sounds more natural.
@oddish4352
@oddish4352 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a computer voice could easily be programmed to mimic breathing pauses, to sound more human.
@quineloe
@quineloe Жыл бұрын
Gotta stretch the video to 10 minutes for that ad money bro
@MK-hh1vo
@MK-hh1vo 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching Star Trek since the 60s, tv, movies, cartoons... never noticed ANY of these "hard to ignore" "mistakes"! 🤔 This was disappointing.
@michaelshrader5139
@michaelshrader5139 4 жыл бұрын
The only significant mistake that ever struck me about STTNG series was when Data used a clear contraction while talking to Tasha Yar in the episode where he and Tasha "hooked up" even though Data was supposed to be incapable of using contractions! Ooops! On the movie side, they didn't have any ships background white-noise in "Generations" which totally sucked and no matter what an outdated Klingon BoP should never have been able to destroy a Galaxy Class starship (shields frequency known or not) in ANY UNIVERSE! It was a pathetic way to get rid of the Enterprise D IMHO! :-| Otherwise, most of this other stuff I don't really "get" even having just seen it explained. LOL! ps. The Earth thru the air lock special effect was crummy, even for First Contact times!
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 3 жыл бұрын
He missed trilithium, used three times and twice was a new substance. I noticed Ensign O'Brien. Then again, my favorite show SG1 had some glaring early errors, like a 2 way wormhole in the first episode. They had to drop the harsh affects of gate travel fast, because they made gate use next to impossible.
@KaptainCanuck
@KaptainCanuck 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelshrader5139, in Batman, TLJ screwed up as Two-Face by saying "My" instead of "Our" during the helicopter scene.
@mekkler
@mekkler 4 жыл бұрын
About as canon as you can get: Worf's parents come on board, 'Good to see another Chief, we work for a living, hahaha.'
@RichMcc
@RichMcc 3 жыл бұрын
Cannon ?
@christopherallen9580
@christopherallen9580 Жыл бұрын
@@RichMcc no canon
@RichMcc
@RichMcc Жыл бұрын
@@christopherallen9580 emmm what ?
@christopherallen9580
@christopherallen9580 Жыл бұрын
@@RichMcc emmm you know
@RichMcc
@RichMcc Жыл бұрын
@@christopherallen9580 no idea . My comment was a year ago . I don't even rem what I was thinking yesterday
@andrewtaylor940
@andrewtaylor940 3 жыл бұрын
O’Brian’s rank was firmly established as Chief Petty Officer in the TNG episode “Family”. When Worf’s adoptive parents visit. Worf’s human father Sergei talks to O’Brian as he was himself an Engineering CPO aboard the USS Intrepid “Excelsior Class!”.
@bowl1820
@bowl1820 3 жыл бұрын
Another holodeck problem was in the TNG: "Encounter at Farpoint" episode. When Data picked up the holographic rock and threw it and it hit the wall of the holodeck. The holo-rock shouldn't have hit the wall, It should have just appeared to continue on and land on the ground.
@Fred_in_Oz
@Fred_in_Oz 4 жыл бұрын
I think New Zealand is there, but the bulkhead is blocking view of it. You can’t see Tasmania either in that scene.
@shawn6860
@shawn6860 4 жыл бұрын
Plus being in orbit you miss some islands and details.
@ELCHUCKO666
@ELCHUCKO666 4 жыл бұрын
If New Zealand was shown, then it would be too far north. New Zealand is Southeast of Australia and would not be visible. The globe appears accurate.
@imisinjan
@imisinjan 4 жыл бұрын
Correction, the first Captain of the Enterprise was actually Robert April then he was succeeded by Christopher Pike.
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 3 жыл бұрын
The thing you have to remember about the stunt double issues 1:35 - 2:25 is that TOS and TNG were shown on broadcast TV. Producers used the fact that the vast majority of viewers would be seeing these shows with fuzzy pictures to their advantage. To judge them now through the HD prism isn't really fair 😉
@KuntaKinteToby
@KuntaKinteToby Жыл бұрын
Truth the first time I rewatched that episode in HD was the first time I noticed. Never noticed any previous times watching it on TV.
@Rayzorbladez
@Rayzorbladez 4 жыл бұрын
Data's lack of contractions is quite stable throughout the show. Riker even uses it to spot an impostor Data in an alien simulation who, when simulating Data, says "isn't" and Riker calls him out for it.
@aneelodhwani3961
@aneelodhwani3961 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. I almost didn’t watch this video, as Grunge often do make mistakes or come out with strange things.
@joshuagiehll3737
@joshuagiehll3737 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently rewatched all of TNG. I did notice a few times here and there where he did use a contraction. But it is something only a hard core nut like me would really even notice. All in all they were really consistent with it.
@melanieszelong4664
@melanieszelong4664 3 жыл бұрын
@@aneelodhwani3961 like his pronunciation of Ceti Alpha V or VI can't remember already
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 4 жыл бұрын
8:30 This has been explained as Chekhov being an Enterprise crew member at that time, but not yet being a bridge officer. Khan met many members of the crew, most of them from the "lower decks"
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 2 жыл бұрын
@ShoeUnited That was actually in the novelization of the movie.
@ClanDNApples
@ClanDNApples 2 жыл бұрын
Also the original role was meant to be Bones not Chekhov, I can't remember why the character was swapped
@dannyknightblade4592
@dannyknightblade4592 2 жыл бұрын
The novel "To Reign In Hell" features the "deleted scene," if you will, of Khan interacting with Chekov.
@speeta
@speeta Жыл бұрын
I think it was Koenig who came up with the backstory that both Chekov and Khan were new to the Enterprise and hadn't yet gotten used to the shipboard food, and were both suffering a case of the runs as a result. Chekov was occupying the head when Khan, impatient, desperately ripped the door open and threw him out. In that one intense moment they each saw a face they'd never forget.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 4 жыл бұрын
"I can't use contractions. I'm an android." I sware I heard that line.
@Levermonkey
@Levermonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Given the angle of the globe and the distance that New Zealand is from Australia; is New Zealand missing or just hidden by the corner of the console? Inconclusive.
@Heart2HeartBooks
@Heart2HeartBooks 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This guy is picking at straws!
@kieramcadams4103
@kieramcadams4103 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, NZ is way further south than most people think it is.
@Lefty16jd
@Lefty16jd 4 жыл бұрын
When O'Brien was talking to Worf's step dad Sergei. He said to O'Brian "it's always good to meet another chief petty officer". After that he said "don't call me sir, I used to work for a living" haha
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about that particular moment is, O'Brien was wearing Lieutenant pips at the time. How on earth did Sergei recognize him as a Chief Petty Officer then? "Shhh" - Script Writers
@Lefty16jd
@Lefty16jd 4 жыл бұрын
He. Was talking about commissioned officers. Seemingly as someone who specializes in a particular engineering field like a cheif transporter officer. Which can be held by a lieutenant in the 24th century lol.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lefty16jd Nope. Watch the episode again. Sergei specifically states "Always good to meet another Chief Petty Officer. Sergei Rozhenko, formerly of the USS Intrepid." - "Miles Edward O'Brien, Sir. Good to meet you" - "Don't call me "sir", I used to WORK for a living" (common enlisted man banter)
@agonleed3841
@agonleed3841 4 жыл бұрын
@@k1productions87 all that says to me is that they both understand the joke. An officer joking with another officer using a joke about officers. I've heard it with retired/discharged officers towards current officers in USMC
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@agonleed3841 I guess. Though the more likely scenario is that O'Brien was meant to be a CPO just like Chief Rozhenko, but the wardrobe department either weren't given the memo, or were given wrong information,.... or simply didn't give a frak lol
@ultramaximusreviews
@ultramaximusreviews 4 жыл бұрын
They do address Obrien as a Chief in TNG & DS9
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
though there was a change made halfway through, moving from a single hollow pip to a more detailed chevron pin (three chevrons and two stars, denoting either Senior Chief PO, or Master Chief PO)
@robertballasty395
@robertballasty395 4 жыл бұрын
He first appeared manning the conn in the pilot of TNG. He was referred to as Chief from early on in TNG because he was the Transporter Chief, though he was clearly a Lieutenant. Weirdness was very noticeable somewhere season 4 or 5, an episode where Barclay (with O'Brien's help) discovers some missing people trapped in quantum/transporter/flux (Barclay makes O'Brien test his theory on him - ~"that's an order, I outrank you". Somebody thought Chief could only refer to Chief Petty Officer? Setting the stage for the beginning of DS9? He transferred to DS9 as Chief of Operations (helps in continuing to call him "Chief", though Data as 1701D's Operations Officer was never called "Chief" (though I think that Chief Engineers in Star Trek, who are usually officers, are sometimes shown being addressed as "Chief")). It was portrayed as a promotion from noncomm to officer (Ensign) with some cringeworthy early scenes with Doctor (Lieutenant) Bashir encouraging informality (or not). Somewhere between there or the end of DS9 I think they tried to explain it as Chief Master Petty Officer. Personally, I think they should have left him as an officer from the start (Lt.) His backstory as it was developed made it clear that he had long service before TNG, distinguished service, and could easily have earned a field commission. --- I also think they could have retconned all the screwups with 30 seconds of dialogue in the last episode of DS9. Have Sisko receive a classified dispatch saying "classified order #___ from Stardate 46xxx is now revoked" - he and O'Brien reveal to the others that due to Federation security concerns and diplomatic limitations from Bajor on the number and ranks of foreign (that is - Starfleet) officers on their station - O'Brien's record was altered to present him as a senior NCO, in order to have an talented & experienced officer (especially experienced from the previous war with Cardassians) in place at a potentially sensitive location. Now that the feared war is started and ended, and Bajor is a member of the Federation, they are free to reveal the truth, Kira is annoyed at Starfleet duplicity (but less so than she would have been 6 years earlier), O'Brien is revealed in his real rank as a full Lt., gets a promotion to Lt. Commander, gets his back pay, gets his appointment as an Academy professor, and Julian is gobsmacked that he was so condescending in Season 1 toward somebody who actually outranked him.
@michaelshrader5139
@michaelshrader5139 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertballasty395 What back pay? Humans don't use money in the future! About damn time too, it's just a cotton fiber like paper with ink on it and only worth anything as long as the government that printed it remains in power. And we the people strive for it sweat and bleed over it and never have enough of it (most of us anyways) our entire lives! Arghhhh! :-( There's gotta be a better way I tell ya.
@Gunner192
@Gunner192 4 жыл бұрын
Chief could be a Warrant Officer or a Navy E-9.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gunner192 Not quite. Navy E-9 (at least in the US Navy) is Master Chief Petty Officer (or just Master Chief). The "Chief" name begins at E-7 (Chief Petty Officer). Warrant Officer is an entirely different level, listed as W-1 - W-5 or in some cases WO-1 - WO-5. The first rank just "Warrant Officer" while 2-5 all called "Chief Warrant Officer"
@gowronsonofmrel867
@gowronsonofmrel867 3 жыл бұрын
Nero got to travel back in time but instead of saving his planet or warn Romulus of the impending disaster he just chilled out an cried for a couple decades. Sad
@beauxguidry5373
@beauxguidry5373 3 жыл бұрын
The Computer making breathing sounds is preprogrammed for the benefit of the crew. This is from the Ep where Geordi teaches Data to paint. (Tell me if I'm wrong about the ep.) That there is always a human factor put into all inventions and even Data was/is effected by this because his brother Lore was too human that Data was was then built with certain flaws.
@DanDude2905
@DanDude2905 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the replicator was programmed to breath to make it sound more realistic.
@jasonlittle6542
@jasonlittle6542 4 жыл бұрын
That was the excuse I thought of as well
@enginerdy
@enginerdy 4 жыл бұрын
deepmind.com/blog/article/wavenet-generative-model-raw-audio "Notice that non-speech sounds, such as breathing and mouth movements, are also sometimes generated by WaveNet; this reflects the greater flexibility of a raw-audio model."
@luispanaderoguardeno3306
@luispanaderoguardeno3306 4 жыл бұрын
Its a details that I never notices... I watched nearly all series dubbed to Spanish, so perhaps this details was "fixed"
@musicalhistory4392
@musicalhistory4392 4 жыл бұрын
I never noticed the breaths, they're pretty subtle unless you're listening for them. Your statement still makes sense because the computer feels like it has a natural speech pattern.
@JackVermicelli
@JackVermicelli 4 жыл бұрын
"Breath" isn't a verb. "Breathe" is the verb.
@ricksevans
@ricksevans 4 жыл бұрын
Good text-to-voice software intoduces breathe sounds to make the voice sounds more natural. You should know this since you clearly are using an artificial narrator.
@nybble
@nybble 4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment this. Thank you
@acmenipponair
@acmenipponair 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I also wanted to say, that the AI programmers will have put into the breathing to make the computer voice sound more humanlike. Data also makes breathing noises, although he don't breath. And every radio producer is told to left his breaths in the file to make him sound more natural. Only noobs cut out the breath.
@Martin071982
@Martin071982 4 жыл бұрын
@@acmenipponair As far as I remember there was one episode where Data explained that he does in fact breath, but as coolant measure...
@natsume-hime2473
@natsume-hime2473 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martin071982 It's explained numerous times. While cooling is one reason Data breaths, the other is it makes him seem more human, so that he's less alien to people, especially human people. It's a psychological tactic that works in the real world, making interfacing with technology easier. Same reason that menus and interfaces in software are animated and make sounds. So while Data doesn't need to breathe, he does to seem more like an organic lifeform for the sake of the comfort of others first and foremost.
@hannastownbillbowers8472
@hannastownbillbowers8472 3 жыл бұрын
@Sun Flower breath = (Breth ) as in take one breath , while breathe = ( br eee th ) = to breath - as in I like to breathe in cold air. I don't no WHY or even WHO thought this was a bad idea - I thought I was the only one that noticed - but I sure know WHERE they can stick it . It's pretty confusing to me and I was pretty good at spelling . Plus I'm - - - wait for it ... BREATHING right now , lol .
@GANGSTA2285
@GANGSTA2285 3 жыл бұрын
0:44 Miles Obrien's rank is stated by Worf's father. He says verbatim "it's always good to see another chief petty officer" when he goes to shake Miles hand. The episode is called Family, season 4.
@michaelramsey1299
@michaelramsey1299 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of the one that bugs me the most? Increase to warp 6 La Forge” “Aye sir full impulse”
@tomcline5631
@tomcline5631 4 жыл бұрын
Was that the 1701 D or E? Can't remember if that was a TNG episode or one of the TNG movies. The E was capable of warp speed through brute strength up to warp 4 I thought. Was on one of the LCARS sights. I remember reading it when I was referencing pictures/line drawings when I was carving some of the different classes of Enterprise. Might be wrong,been a long time.
@michaelramsey1299
@michaelramsey1299 4 жыл бұрын
tom cline D it’s in the Conspiracy episode. Riker tells Jordie to increase to warp six and he replied with. Aye sir, full impulse.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Ramsey Yeah I picked up on that the second time round watching it. But I mean it’s things not even really worth mentioning. For the most part the show is pretty consistent
@michaelramsey1299
@michaelramsey1299 4 жыл бұрын
Mitch Jones oh I agree but that one bugs me more than all of the ones they put on this list.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Ramsey Same man. I was thinking there was a huge plot hole that undermines the entire show that I missed but it was only slight nit picks. The mistake of full impulse bugs me way more too
@williampilling2168
@williampilling2168 3 жыл бұрын
The Spock watching Vulcan get destroyed thing bugged me. Delta Vega would have had to been in orbit of Vulcan for it to be that prominent in the sky. Spock mentions to Uhura in the original series, when she is flirting with him, "Why don't you tell about the moon around your planet". He replies "Vulcan has no moon", to which Uhura says "I'm not suprised".
@wesker919
@wesker919 4 жыл бұрын
Picard and discovery are two of the biggest mistakes that are hard to ignore.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this would be stuff like the star curtain in TNG that is sometimes so random in continuity of motion it’s distracting, or the times Worf’s reused head appliances don’t fit or his ‘unique’ button mashing, or the dumb rippled holodeck carpet, or when Kirk managed to change his shirt during a turbo lift ride, or the times a turbo lift goes up when it started on the bridge, or...
@tartagliussy529
@tartagliussy529 4 жыл бұрын
Or Data using contractions
@Josh-ut4wv
@Josh-ut4wv 3 жыл бұрын
or the fact that some hallways have painted ends with are easy to spot in TNG
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-ut4wv …and those darned bits of cardboard on the panels.
@freshiesorch3605
@freshiesorch3605 4 жыл бұрын
I am a devoted Trek fan who has seen every single movie and episode (except some of the original series) and I still didn’t notice like ANY of these
@LarryLeeMoniz
@LarryLeeMoniz 4 жыл бұрын
8:44 I just can't ignore your pronunciation of Ceti Alpha V!
@martyklestadt6766
@martyklestadt6766 3 жыл бұрын
Settee Alpha V.
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 2 жыл бұрын
He thinks he works for WhatCulture.
@onyxdandelion2704
@onyxdandelion2704 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget!!! The cold fusion bomb from Jar Jar Abrams: Into Darkness! The stop a volcano from exploding with a cold fusion bomb..... Which freezes the volcano somehow....? A cold fusion bomb would just be a nuke.... it would just blow up the volcano....
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
Oh there was worse stuff than that throughout TOS. I saw that as more of a joke to point out all the silly stuff that TOS used in such cases. A kind of homage to Trek's own past, if you will.
@lazylime8046
@lazylime8046 3 жыл бұрын
JJ's an absolutely terrible director and writer. I overlook everything he does because none of it is going to make sense.
@TheMrWhitmore
@TheMrWhitmore 3 жыл бұрын
@@lazylime8046 Huh.. you are right. With the success he has, and money he earns and earned, he must be terrible at filmmaking. Bet no one wants to work with such a fool, and all of Hollywood hates him. Yes this was sarcasm... I dont like the Kelvin timeline either, I can see why fans consider it "Too much action heavy", I hate those lense flares.... But honestly.. its not as bad as people want it to be... at least not the 2009 one. Then again, I guess the so called "real trekkies" struggle hard with DS9 and, for whatever reason, Enterprise. I started with Voyager (because of Childhood memories, became a, at least thats what I think of me, better fan then some so called fans, and watched (so far) most of the movies, including the new ones, TNG, DS9, Voyager, and am half done with Enterprise. I struggled getting into TNG, struggled even more with DS9... And Enterprise, of which I heard mostly bad things before.. I loved it from the beginning, its EXACTLY what Star Trek always was. My honest opinion? Some people realy have to get their heads out of Kirks ass.
@the_synack
@the_synack 4 жыл бұрын
Re: Computer's breath sounds when speaking Some TTS software today puts in artificial breathing sounds so it provides a more natural sound. I could easily see the developers of the computer's speech system adding breaths for that reason
@michaelbridge9108
@michaelbridge9108 3 жыл бұрын
Nero discovered Sudoku and couldn't get revenge until he has completed all of them.
@Zasek2112
@Zasek2112 4 жыл бұрын
Everything Abrams has done and everything that has come after was a mistake that's hard to ignore, but I try.
@timfondiggle2582
@timfondiggle2582 4 жыл бұрын
YEZ
@michaelshrader5139
@michaelshrader5139 4 жыл бұрын
So sad, but so true! Trek has lost it's way. Roddenberry must be rolling over in his grave! :- |
@Martin071982
@Martin071982 4 жыл бұрын
Without counting, I think half of the mentioned errors are from his three movies, while the rest is from 700+ TV episodes and ten other movies. The quality of JJ Abrams movies is hard to ignore, not only in Star Trek also in Star Wars :D
@peethreeorion
@peethreeorion 3 жыл бұрын
@@Martin071982 "The quality of JJ Abrams movies is hard to FIND..." Fixed it for you
@Martin071982
@Martin071982 3 жыл бұрын
p3.orion yeah that sounds about right 😀
@elianas1121
@elianas1121 4 жыл бұрын
On the topic of Trelane: He’s a Q, he can watch Earth however he damn well pleases. And if he’s eccentric enough to give himself a name other than Q, he’s certainly eccentric enough to fixate on the past...
@androidbutterscotchkitty
@androidbutterscotchkitty 4 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure he is a Q. I looked it up and it doesn’t look like it’s cannon, could be wrong. But I remember he had a mother and father, and I thought Q from TNG was the first to produce offspring.
@elianas1121
@elianas1121 4 жыл бұрын
ANDROID LPS Jazz Kit. I know it’s part of the expanded canon of the books, at bare minimum...
@marccolten9801
@marccolten9801 4 жыл бұрын
Q's don't use technology for their power Q's aren't children with parents Q's weren't married to women who slept with JFK.
@jonathanhadden7157
@jonathanhadden7157 4 жыл бұрын
As for Trelane being a "Q", you *MUST* read "Q-Sqaured"!! A wonderful Star Trek book!!
@peethreeorion
@peethreeorion 3 жыл бұрын
Except that it was a relevant plot point. Trelane's confusing 18th century Earth for the present day was one of the clues that he was actually a child.
@treytonburnham3657
@treytonburnham3657 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen every Star Trek show and movie, and I didn't even notice any of these mistakes.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
I only noticed a few. But are they massive plot holes. Not really. Like the breathing. Starfleet could easily have some that to give a more realistic sound
@treytonburnham3657
@treytonburnham3657 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchjones7403 agreed
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
whatever problems star trek 2 might have, montalbán knocks it out of the park. one of the best most relatable villains ever. who hasn't had a revenge fantasy?
@BatMite19
@BatMite19 4 жыл бұрын
Saw Walter Koenig at a con back in the 80s. He explained the Chekov/Khan problem very efficiently. You see, Checkov was onboard during season 1, he just wasn't a bridge officer. What they left out of "Space Seed" was that Khan brought a bout of Montezuma's Revenge with him onto the ship, and it spread like wildfire. Khan suddenly needed a toilet, and as he ran down the hall to get the last stall available, Chekov jumped in front of him and took it. Khan crapped his pants and was furious. So he waited for Chekov until he came out. At that point, Khan grabbed the young officer, looked at him, and said, "Your face I will never forget!"
@John_Smith_60
@John_Smith_60 3 жыл бұрын
I heard Koenig tell that story a a Creation Convention in Boston back then.
@rafazieba9982
@rafazieba9982 6 күн бұрын
Walter Koenig also mentioned at some point that he did point out this issue to the producers himself and he could have been easily replaced in this scene by someone else who was a bridge officer back then but producers chose to ignore this issue. They thought it could be explained that he was on board but not a bridge officer at the time.
@bradleyj.fortner2203
@bradleyj.fortner2203 4 жыл бұрын
"Sci-Fi needs a certain level of authenticity to work." You hear that Kurtzman?
@nigratruo
@nigratruo 4 жыл бұрын
"Sci-Fi needs a certain level of authenticity to work." You hear that Kurtzman? ------------------ Oh yeah, tell me about it. See, Star Trek used to be pretty intelligent, for smart people that want to learn something. Intelligence was cool. They just made Kurtzman Trek incredible dumb. I could not believe it, but there is actually a scene in STD where a officer berates another "you think you are so much smarter than me!", which is typical about a dumb person berating a more intelligent one, because the majority of the crew and viewers are morons and low IQ people that love to hear that. I don't know who these new people are that like STD and such, but they are no Trekkies and should stick with Star Wars, instead of dumbing down Star Trek to suit their tastes.
@rbivgq1734
@rbivgq1734 4 жыл бұрын
@@nigratruo both franchises have now been ruined gotta live in the past if your a real trek fan IMO.
@nigratruo
@nigratruo 4 жыл бұрын
@@rbivgq1734 True. But the good news is: There is soooooo much material that will keep us busy for a long time.
@thurin84
@thurin84 4 жыл бұрын
clearly he does not.
@thurin84
@thurin84 4 жыл бұрын
@@nigratruo was that lt fredo?
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
12:17 that never happened. data could not use contractions. some might slip in due to dialogue choices and oversights, but data can't say can't technically. it remains a thing up until the last season and even the last movie.
@mysmirandam.6618
@mysmirandam.6618 3 жыл бұрын
Yrp
@ryanm7263
@ryanm7263 3 жыл бұрын
"Scifi needs a certain level of authenticity to work." That's why Kurtzman has no business making Trek.
@NikkiWrightVGM
@NikkiWrightVGM 3 жыл бұрын
You guys got a mistake here in the countdown. You refer to Tom Paris as Lieutenant in the first episode of Voyager when he didn't get that rank until later. He was officially designated as an "Observer" and got a field promotion.
@jupamoers
@jupamoers 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, he was a Cadet before he got stripped of the rank and thrown in prison, because of what he did in TNG (it is canonized to be the same character, they changed his name in Voyager). And Janeway apparently promoted him in the Delta Quadrant because she couldn't have a Cadet flying her ship (even Wesley Crusher was first an acting Ensign to fly the ship and then a real Ensign, before he entered the Academy and left it a Lieutenant, thanks to Picard). The Starfleet Captains seem to have a lot of liberty promoting their Crew as they please :D
@andres355
@andres355 4 жыл бұрын
The comics and novels from the 80's established that Chekov served in engineering before they moved him to the bridge ("Who's Who in Star Trek", "Enterprise: The First Adventure") . Presumably he was is the engine room when Khan's crew captured the ship.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but the comics aren’t canon. But it’s entirely possible and not really a mistake
@karensauve3791
@karensauve3791 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is tiny nitpicking. I am a huge trekkie and none of these mattered to me.
@BIackMoonCGI
@BIackMoonCGI 4 жыл бұрын
We all picked up on Chekov not being in Space Seed though didn't we? I know I did.
@michaeldean1934
@michaeldean1934 3 жыл бұрын
The Khan/Chekov mistake: Walter Koenig was helping the writers with continuity. He noticed....but said nothing because he was afraid that if he did the would replace Chekov with another character and he would lose some plot involvement.
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 3 жыл бұрын
I was 12 in 1967 when I watched "Space Seed." When I watched "The Wrath of Khan" in 1982, I had no problem with Checkov knowing who Khan was or vice versa. I didn't even think about it. I still don't have a problem with it. I don't sweat the small stuff.
@Yggdrasil42
@Yggdrasil42 4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that some voice assistants have begun to add the ‘inhale’ sound to make their voices less dead.
@Axemantitan
@Axemantitan 3 жыл бұрын
O'Brien's CPO rank WAS explicitly stated onscreen, first by Worf's adoptive father in a TNG episode and then later by a Jem'Hadar soldier in DS9.
@DeaPeaJay
@DeaPeaJay 3 жыл бұрын
9:03 Robert wise in the director commentary basically says he knew about the discrepancy but chose to ignore it. And I don’t blame him honestly.
@paolobellomi8056
@paolobellomi8056 4 жыл бұрын
The only mistakes in Star Trek that i find hard to ignore are Discovery and Picard.
@gullwingstorm857
@gullwingstorm857 2 жыл бұрын
(And Abrams messes).
@warreng675
@warreng675 2 жыл бұрын
Making them
@CatsClaw44
@CatsClaw44 2 жыл бұрын
An even bigger mistake is you believing that anyone cares what you think.
@paolobellomi8056
@paolobellomi8056 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, having you respond to this thread after two years makes me think that you, at least, care
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
11:10 even today you can push a button in an aircraft with the right equipment and match speed with another. it is called computer control, or fly by wire. in a fighter you can hit that same button and create a velocity envelope to operate in around the enemy fighter's speed. but ultimately the computer makes the decision, and we are dealing with what has to fundamentally be faster than light computing. so no, you won't overshoot your target if it stops, the sensors are even ftl as part of cannon in the series.
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 4 жыл бұрын
Be that as it may, but then the crew should be surprised when they suddenly fall out of warp. Usually, however, there is some dialogue like "Seems they are slowing down" and an order like "Do the same, match speed" or something. The time this dialogue takes, your have overtaken the other ship by half a lightyear at maximum warp.
@kght222
@kght222 4 жыл бұрын
@@countluke2334 different circumstances involve different systems. they weren't actively course matching in those cases. otherwise even if it needed sentient intervention the job would already be getting done, no need for an extra order.
@CarlDidur
@CarlDidur 4 жыл бұрын
@@countluke2334 Like the amount of time he waits in "THE PICARD MANEUVER" haha... it's like hundreds of thousands of miles... always bothered me...
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 3 жыл бұрын
Fighters have no such function.
@kght222
@kght222 3 жыл бұрын
@@icecold9511 its still really rough as i tried to get across although i likely failed, but you can envelope a fighter's speed in a dogfight these days. the thing is that it never gets used because fights are usually over at a dozen miles or more with missiles these days.
@billybegood466
@billybegood466 4 жыл бұрын
Basically everything after Voyager was a mistake.
@TexasDog3
@TexasDog3 4 жыл бұрын
O'Briens' rank became clear in DS9.
@peethreeorion
@peethreeorion 3 жыл бұрын
It's not so much hat it became "clear" as that the issue had become such a clusterfock that nobody gave a damn anymore.
@makeminefreedom
@makeminefreedom 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the illusion to a point. Until they started making fun of the characters like Abrams did in Star Trek Into Darkness. Remaking The Wrath of Khan, exchanging Kirk for Spock in the death scene, and using Tribble juice to save Kirk was a joke. I also didn't like Kirk, Spock, and McCoy chasing each other around the ship like The Three Stooges. I can understand real mistakes but not intentional sabotage.
@manic5378
@manic5378 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't use tribble juice to save Kirk, they used the equally idiotic "magic blood" from Khan which could even cure death. McCoy had tested it on a dead tribble in an earlier scene, so when he noticed the tribble stirring back to life, he and Uhura had to make sure Spock didn't kill Khan.
@Lord_Volkner
@Lord_Volkner 4 жыл бұрын
The StarTrek reboot was so full of errors and mistakes, you could do an entire video on it that would be as long as the movie itself.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
You could do a video just as long for Wrath of Khan as well
@UnchainedAmerica
@UnchainedAmerica 4 жыл бұрын
said the guy who can't enjoy the show without OCDing about everything wrong with the reboot.
@rogercraven2667
@rogercraven2667 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnchainedAmerica said the guy who used the pathetic "said the guy" phrase.
@nigratruo
@nigratruo 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, what you mean is not Star Trek reboot, but Star Trek grave robbing and Zombie Star Trek.
@Lord_Volkner
@Lord_Volkner 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnchainedAmerica I enjoyed the Star Trek reboot. I've watched it 2 dozen times probably, but that doesn't change the fact that it is full of errors and mistakes and some of them are pretty ridiculous. Shame on J.J.
@myah528
@myah528 4 жыл бұрын
While Chekov was introduced later that Space Seed as far as when the episodes were released, the canonical stardate of the episode he was introduced was before Space Seed, so it is completely cannon that Chekov was on the ship during the episode Space Seed
@dgbrownnt
@dgbrownnt 4 жыл бұрын
And the non-canon (but generally accepted) answer was that he was down in engineering :) (Which is why Chekov is in engineering during Into Darkness)
@countluke2334
@countluke2334 4 жыл бұрын
@@dgbrownnt Yes, because JJ Abrams of all people is obsessed with attention to detail and with giving explanations of what happened 30 years earlier in a timeline he chose to destroy.
@dgbrownnt
@dgbrownnt 4 жыл бұрын
​@@countluke2334 Considering the reboot movies are laden with TOS references, how is this one unexpected?
@krislangley6226
@krislangley6226 4 жыл бұрын
Walter K. later stated that he recognized this problem when he was given the script. If he had raised it, he was concerned that Chekov would have been written out of the movie, and another Starfleet officer would have been substituted as the 1st officer on the Reliant.
@Tryst46
@Tryst46 3 жыл бұрын
I can still hear Chekov shouting "got him!" after he hit another ship and blew it up with the phasers.
@EpsilonFilms
@EpsilonFilms 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest one for me is in Generations when Picard decides to return from the Nexus to the point right before Soron's missile launch. He could have just returned to when he first met Soron and arrested him. Instead he decides to do the fight all over again, bringing Kirk with him and getting Kirk killed as a result.
@RRW359
@RRW359 4 жыл бұрын
*from DS9 S3E11* Fine table linens? A different fork for every course? That's why I stayed an Enlisted man. They don't expect me to attend these formal dinners." I'm not an expert on NZ, but it's farther than Australia than most people realize and if google maps is right, it should be mostly if not completely beneath the display. The distance from Delta Vega to Vulcan is never established and neither is the size of the black hole. Also there are TONS of astronomical things in Trek that made me cringe after learning how they work IRL. The Pike thing is idiotic I'll admit, but what does his backstory have to do with whether or not it's correct? So if you aren't a bridge officer until season 2 you 100% aren't on the ship at all in season 1? I can't hear the breathing, but giving this the benefit of the doubt, they mention several times in both TOS and TNG that they wished the computer sounded more human. Also, if TOS and TNG are the worst when it comes to this, why show a scene from VOY?
@oldenweery7510
@oldenweery7510 4 жыл бұрын
Well, at least "Warp Speed" wasn't measured by "parsecs." Stay safe and good luck.
@emergentempire670
@emergentempire670 4 жыл бұрын
Speed wasn't used as a measure of speed in star wars either. It referred to distance and Han solo took a shortcut through the Kessel run which saved distance, therefore saving time...
@oldenweery7510
@oldenweery7510 4 жыл бұрын
@@emergentempire670 I believe that's one of the excuses Lucas gave for the gaff. His scripts showed little regard for the meanings of some of the words he was tossing around. I particularly liked the way they perpetuated something that might have started out as a typographical error: saying "Century" when they really meant "Sentry." They also liked to tack on "thermal," whenever they wanted to sound scientific. I love the films anyway, but they needed scientific line editors. Stay safe.
@emergentempire670
@emergentempire670 4 жыл бұрын
I must concede on that point. Thermal shielding makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. At the same time, a lot of star trek is psuedoscience and thrown together pieces that disregard the laws of physics.
@emergentempire670
@emergentempire670 4 жыл бұрын
I still love both though and each have their failings.
@oldenweery7510
@oldenweery7510 4 жыл бұрын
@@emergentempire670 _May the Force be with you..._ and keep the damned Virus away, too!
@oneblankspace4919
@oneblankspace4919 4 жыл бұрын
this video has more commercial breaks than an episode of ST:NG
@zealot777
@zealot777 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: O'Brian also drives a vintage corvette with personalized plates "AZZKIKR". True story.
@rudiologist
@rudiologist 4 жыл бұрын
Walter Koenig once said that he had a chance to preview the script for ST: Wrath of Khan and that he noticed the problem with the discrepancy, however, Koenig decided to leave it in there, because he felt that he wouldn't have much else to do in the movie if he was removed from that scene and Sulu took his place.
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 4 жыл бұрын
The "breathing" in the computer voice could be a 24th century effect to make the computer sound more human, or living, so as to make people that much more comfortable interacting with it. Basically, it's a much higher grade of imitation where the computer program actually inserts breathing in the response pattern to better simulate human speech cadence.
@lauranolastnamegiven3385
@lauranolastnamegiven3385 4 жыл бұрын
recall the girl getting the hot chocolate who said 'please' and 'thank you' to the replicator because it was 'intelligent technology'
@tracycampbell4526
@tracycampbell4526 4 жыл бұрын
Yet another critical video made by someone who never actually watched the show; apparent by several mispronunciations of terms used in the series and movies.
@kgarcia78
@kgarcia78 4 жыл бұрын
Totally! Seconds in on Miles O’Brien being nameless in the pilot (that’s correct) saying he was working the transporter. The writer of this clearly never saw the pilot.
@tempest20000
@tempest20000 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the biggest mistake is from the Voyager episode Threshold. Kim and Paris say that Warp 10 is infinite velocity. We have seen multiple starships going faster than the Warp 10. Just off the top of my head, in the original series, Nomad enhances the warp engines so that the ship could go Warp 11. Another one is in the episode “That Which Survives” and the engines are on overload and the Enterprise ends up reaching a maximum speed of Warp 14.1. And in The Next Generation episode “Where No One Has Gone Before”, the Enterprise is doing warp tests and ends up passing the so-called infinite speed barrier of Warp 10. The exact quote from Geordi is “Captain we’re passing Warp 10.” I absolutely hate that Voyager episode because it is such a thorn in the side of warp speed continuity. On multiple instances, there have been examples of ships going faster than Warp 10. I know some people might say that there was a warp scale change somewhere between The Original Series and The Next Generation, but I have never seen an in Cannon confirmation of that. So I just think the Voyager writers are idiots.
@tenzhitihsien888
@tenzhitihsien888 3 жыл бұрын
All of these are so easy to ignore that I don't even notice them unless they're pointed out.
@Ralphieboy
@Ralphieboy 4 жыл бұрын
also, at least the first series was made back in the days before VCR and DVD, you did not have people going back scene-for-scene looking for inconsistencies...and nobody back then foresaw that the series would go into endless syndication with each episode being broadcast dozens of times.
@krislangley6226
@krislangley6226 4 жыл бұрын
And why you could have the same actor playing different characters 5 episodes later.
@robertdoherty2001
@robertdoherty2001 4 жыл бұрын
That whole Kelvin Timeline is one long, seamless, ghastly mistake.
@ESPIRITUS_A
@ESPIRITUS_A 3 жыл бұрын
Nero was probably trapped there with Palpatine in a plot hole gravity well, good thing JJ set them all straight back.
@SciHeartJourney
@SciHeartJourney 3 жыл бұрын
They forgot to mention that if Vulcan was X light years from Delta Vega it would take X years for Spock to see it happen. 🤣
@eeduranti
@eeduranti 4 жыл бұрын
One that really nags at me that nobody notices (so i guess it doesn't really count for this list) . Uhura was at the academy before Kirk and Spock had graduated by the time Kirk took the Kobayashi Maru test yet they all get assigned to the Enterprise at the same time and Kirk leap frogs strait to Capt.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
How about Sulu, who was already a proper Lieutenant at the time.
@SnowDaulphin
@SnowDaulphin 4 жыл бұрын
I think Kirk was the same age as Spock and probably his maturity was recognized by Pike in the Prime reality. In the original series they may have graduated at the same time.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@SnowDaulphin According to Spock, Kirk's father was his inspiration for joining Starfleet, so Kirk may very well have joined much earlier in the Prime Timeline because of this.
@eeduranti
@eeduranti 4 жыл бұрын
@@k1productions87 we are not talking about the prime timeline. In the Kelvin verse he didn't have his father and in went to the academy much later.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@eeduranti I was responding to John Molvanian, look at his post.
@aneelodhwani3961
@aneelodhwani3961 4 жыл бұрын
They didn’t drop the idea of Data not using contractions.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
They only mentioned it again in one episode "Future Imperfect", but in numerous other episodes, he would contract
@aneelodhwani3961
@aneelodhwani3961 4 жыл бұрын
K1productions not on purpose though. Most of the time he would arkwardly use the unshortened word, so they did try to keep it going. It was a strange quirk though. Shame there was no proper explanation for it, as it would not be complex programming in the grand scheme of things.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@aneelodhwani3961 Yeah, I don't think they paid much actual attention to it at the time, which is most unfortunate
@aneelodhwani3961
@aneelodhwani3961 4 жыл бұрын
K1productions back then they didn’t have the internet, or people picking apart each line of every episode. I’d love to know who’s idea it was though, and whether or not the writers tried to fix it.
@djm5687
@djm5687 4 жыл бұрын
Data not being able to use contractions was so that he would appear to be "less human".
@LikaLaruku
@LikaLaruku 2 жыл бұрын
TOS Klingons = Space Mongolians (mistake). TNG Klingons = Viking Samurai Orcs in spaaaace (fixed). Discovery Klingons = Tried to fix something that wasn't broke, thus breaking it.
@TNG173
@TNG173 3 жыл бұрын
O’Brien WAS referred to as Chief Petty Officer by Sergey Rozchenko when he visited Worf aboard the Enterprise-D.
@thoughtfortheday7811
@thoughtfortheday7811 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the line in the Transporter incident something like "What we got back didn't last long"?
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 4 жыл бұрын
"What we got back this end didn't last long, fortunately."
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
Correction: KIRK: "Starfleet, do you have them?" STARFLEET: "Enterprise... what we got back didn't live long... fortunately"
@brendanayres7920
@brendanayres7920 4 жыл бұрын
The creature is inside out! . . . . and it exploded!!
@TheRogZone
@TheRogZone 4 жыл бұрын
@Brendan Ayres. “Galaxy Quest” is one of my absolutely favorite sci-fi movies!
@MihaiSacelean
@MihaiSacelean 4 жыл бұрын
They're actually very easy, barely an inconvenience. I've watched star trek with these errors and still think it's a great show, but hey it's easier to nit pick than create something this grand from scratch.
@thurin84
@thurin84 4 жыл бұрын
oooppssss! ooooppppssssssiiiiiii!
@bluedemon3416
@bluedemon3416 3 жыл бұрын
Having to go so far and so deep to find the most minuscule things goes to show why start trek truly took off and changed the face of sci fi the way it did and leave that everlasting impact
@johnholt2449
@johnholt2449 4 жыл бұрын
Warp speed was pinned down in a chart in the Starfleet Technical Manual published years ago based on the original show as warp speed cubes times the speed of light
@rowlandbuck2703
@rowlandbuck2703 4 жыл бұрын
In First Contact when the Enterprise is monitoring the Romulan Neutral Zone, according to the warp speed charts and Star Trek galaxy map, it should have taken the Enterprise 2 WEEKS, to get to the Borg ship close to earth at warp 9.95. As far as outer space goes that’s still pretty close though.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that in Final Frontier, the Enterprise gets from Earth to the Romulan Neutral Zone, to the Center of the Galaxy, and back to Earth in even less time than that
@luispanaderoguardeno3306
@luispanaderoguardeno3306 4 жыл бұрын
@@k1productions87 Or on ST ENT, pilote episode, the NX-01 travel to Kronos on a few days, when should take months ?
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@luispanaderoguardeno3306 or the TNG finale episode, where while in the past, Picard takes the Enterprise from Earth to where they were heading in the Farpoint episode (which he stated in the pilot as being "beyond which lies the great unexplored mass of the galaxy" implying it was on the edge of Federation space") and then to the Devron System in the Neutral Zone in... how long? A few days at most.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 4 жыл бұрын
@@k1productions87 you have no idea how right you are about that lol, not only is the farpoint outpost very far away its at least three years away from earth at maximum warp! So.... canonically the pilot has the ship and crew embark on a three year mission fresh out of drydock to a tiny outpost 3000 lightyears away to pickup their first officer.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewLSsix How the frak did Riker, Geordi, and Dr. Crusher end up there in the first place? LOL
@lordmichaelnolan3993
@lordmichaelnolan3993 4 жыл бұрын
O'Brien was made to suffer.
@TexasDog3
@TexasDog3 4 жыл бұрын
Especially in that episode of DS9 where he was taken into custody by the Cardassians where they pulled one of his molars. OUCH!!
@Grimlock794
@Grimlock794 4 жыл бұрын
"...at least once a season."
@seancondon5572
@seancondon5572 3 жыл бұрын
4:28 - Indeed, without New Zealand, Tom Paris's introduction in Voyager would have taken place somewhere else. So how the hell could they forget about New Zealand in the span of just under 2 years?
@kc5402
@kc5402 3 жыл бұрын
The reason "Nero" appears to have been lazing around for so long is because someone sent him some free US cable channel trials, and he got hooked on watching crap TV for twenty-five years. ;-)
@sly2792004
@sly2792004 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t notice any of these mistakes and most not even when you showed them.
@Endspiel81
@Endspiel81 3 жыл бұрын
oh noes, you can hear barrett breathing, immersion broken /s i take it this is one of those tacky lazy ad revenue chasing top 10 list channels or something? cause alot of these "hard no ignore" mistakes here are petty nitpicks and anything but hard to ignore. three cheers for adblockers.
@danaralston6688
@danaralston6688 3 жыл бұрын
The transporter was used at least five times before TNG "Unnatural Selection" in some interesting ways... TOS: "Mirror, Mirror", "The Enemy Within", "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" TAS: "The Terratin Incident", "The Counter-Clock Incident" It was definitely explored in TNG - "Rascals" and "Realm of Fear" come to mind immediately. There are more in the other series as well.
@TTony-tu6dm
@TTony-tu6dm 4 жыл бұрын
Worf’s adoptive father identified O’Brien as a Chief Petty Officer in the TNG episode “Family”
@TTony-tu6dm
@TTony-tu6dm 4 жыл бұрын
Also: Spock “seeing” Vulcan destroyed takes place during a mind meld with Kirk. It’s a visual representation of what occurred, not an eyewitness account
@tmoore4075
@tmoore4075 4 жыл бұрын
When Scotty came out of the transporter in TNG he mentions Capt Kirk probably had something to do with it but he was on the Enterprise B when Kirk "died."
@CryptidWalks
@CryptidWalks 4 жыл бұрын
That always bugged me to
@CDRiley
@CDRiley 4 жыл бұрын
Scotty's episode in TNG was written 2 years prior to Srar Star Trek Generations . Its not error.
@danielsangeo
@danielsangeo 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Guinan could've told Scotty that Kirk was still alive in the Nexus. Alternatively, before they bring Scotty out of the pattern buffer, Riker says, "There's less than point zero zero three percent signal degradation." That signal degradation may have wiped that memory from Scotty's mind.
@k1productions87
@k1productions87 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielsangeo Well now you're just writing for the writers lol. To me the worse injustice about Generations was the fact that Shatner had to steal Scotty's best line from the TNG episode in question. "I was driving starships while your great grandfather was still in DIAPERS!!" - Scotty ("Relics" TNG) "i was out saving the galaxy while your grandfather was in diapers" - Kirk (Star Trek Generations) ... way to go, Shat-head
@CryptidWalks
@CryptidWalks 4 жыл бұрын
When you have multiple writers, over many episodes/movies, mistakes are made. Time continuum is altered or distorted.
@jimdavis6833
@jimdavis6833 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, nobody ever said Data couldn't use contractions, only that he didn't use them. One would think that after being around humans for a few years, he would pick up on a few.
@Human_1100
@Human_1100 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4qUfJeHg9SXhJI
@tartagliussy529
@tartagliussy529 4 жыл бұрын
He says he can't a bunch
@John_Smith_60
@John_Smith_60 3 жыл бұрын
@@tartagliussy529 Actually, he says he cannot. :-P
@julianfierro7034
@julianfierro7034 3 жыл бұрын
The stunt double "mistakes" can only be considered mistakes if you ignore, or don't know about the limits of television resolution of the period and the fact that the series have been remastered since they first aired. Stunt doubles weren't so obvious on my mom's Zenith console TV. EDIT: The Trelane episode bugged me too
@beauxguidry5373
@beauxguidry5373 3 жыл бұрын
Off screen Khan and Checkhov had interacted not only through ship encounteries but encounters on the stated Planet as well when Pavel was in Star Fleet.
@benjaminrobledo5466
@benjaminrobledo5466 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie... I never noticed there's and they didn't bother and they still don't... I'm gonna forget all this in 2 hours and honestly. They're not showbreaking lol. I feel like they are nitpicks... They are so easy to overlook. 😂
@aleksandarmarkovic221
@aleksandarmarkovic221 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it’s the inconsistencies of the com badge communication
@MathewWoodard
@MathewWoodard 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? It’s tap to talk and tap to end... sometimes
@aleksandarmarkovic221
@aleksandarmarkovic221 4 жыл бұрын
Mathew Woodard exactly... sometimes, a lot of the times they never even tap to end so I’m usually just left wondering if the other person can hear the ongoing conversation
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Markovich I think you can route it through the computer. Like a non Starfleet person can do. You can just say “Computer, you’re name to person” maybe for Starfleet officers you don’t have to say computer due to using it more than civs
@mb2000
@mb2000 4 жыл бұрын
Plus sometimes they tap it while on the ship, sometimes they use a wall panel, sometimes they just talk into the air, sometimes they need the commbadge to locate a person, sometimes they don’t and the civilians don’t need a commbadge to be located...
@pianotm
@pianotm 3 жыл бұрын
OH! Chekov and Khan! Walter Koenig noticed the mistake but didn't say anything because he was worried they would recast him! Based on a lot of the information available about production, it's probable that the majority of the writers didn't know a lot about Star Trek.
@DamnableReverend
@DamnableReverend 3 жыл бұрын
neat list and good presentation. The enterprise original ship had something like 400 people on board, so it's no trouble to me that we didn't see any interaction between Chekov and Khan on screen. Khan was on board the Enterprise for more than thirty minutes, but the episode is thirty minutes long -- we can never forget that TV is not a depiction of real events, it's just a representation of them, with a lot of things that happened in the "reality" of the show's universe simply not depicted.
@jamesshepherd6491
@jamesshepherd6491 4 жыл бұрын
One would have to be a real pedantic trekky to identify these 'errors.' However, the video was entertaining overall. Thanks.
@marmac83
@marmac83 4 жыл бұрын
Not that pedantic.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
Not really that pedantic. More just nit picky. The mistakes weren’t really that bad. Like a computer making breathing sounds? Really? It could have been done by Starfleet for a more realistic sound.
@jamesshepherd6491
@jamesshepherd6491 4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchjones7403 Being pedantic and nit picky are very similar, unless one wants to nit pick about it, which I don't want to do.
@mitchjones7403
@mitchjones7403 4 жыл бұрын
James Shepherd Yeah I wasn’t thinking straight. They do mean the same. My mistake
@agonleed3841
@agonleed3841 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesshepherd6491 lmao
@outsider238
@outsider238 4 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced "Setee Alpha Five" not "City Alpha Five". Just sayin'.
@zekeigtos7240
@zekeigtos7240 4 жыл бұрын
I know...just like in the Animated series, they called the Orions "Orey-ons" despite hearing the right way in "Journey to Babel"
@STho205
@STho205 4 жыл бұрын
It's "Sked-u-al" not "Shed-yul" Schedule. Fight that one out. Uranus Gemini ...
@melanieszelong4664
@melanieszelong4664 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I never understand how this channel consistently mispronounces proper names when multiple recordings of them exist. Didn't you people ever watch the show?
@josephpetrino1741
@josephpetrino1741 4 жыл бұрын
In a late TNG episode we learn that warp drive is destroying space and they must not exceed warp 5 ( I think). This dumb revelation is never mentioned again in any episodes.
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was. For one thing, it was for specific regions if memory serves. In one episode Picard was given explicit permission to exceed warp 5. And presumably they worked to figure out a fix to the engines, since warp 5 was considered a stop gap.
@josephpetrino1741
@josephpetrino1741 3 жыл бұрын
@@icecold9511 Reviewing those episodes I see where permission was given to exceed warp 5. But I see no resolution to the problem in TNG and it's never mentioned in any other Star Trek series.
@timbuktu8069
@timbuktu8069 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved how (esp. TOS) the ships computer could take 2+2 and get Pi. "Computer, give that we've just teleported to an alternate universe in a completely random accident, can we oh say...reverse polarity and get back?" Computer: "Affirmative"
@Unknown17
@Unknown17 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Grunge, at :57 you state that "O'brien never even got a last name until..." This was a mistake that's hard to ignore.
@LikaLaruku
@LikaLaruku 2 жыл бұрын
Bingewatch TNG. Bingewatch Voyager. Bingewatch DS9. Now count how many continuity & canon errors you can find per episode of Picard.
@joannethomson9667
@joannethomson9667 4 жыл бұрын
NZ?? What about Tasmania?! NEVER on a map in TV. Which is why I love Ds9 when they gave us a mention. "It's probably raining in Tasmania anyway" - Every time I watch this, it actually is raining.
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