Star Trek Strange New Worlds Season 2 Episode 4 - Breakdown & Review!

[@NeuroD369]

The Tear Wipe between the doctor and La’an means “It’s okay. I/you/something wipes your tears away.” They share a past of trauma.

[@JustYFriend]

I wondered what that meant. Thanks for clarifying.

[@boreddum4849]

@@JustYFriend they did that s1e1

[@BobSperber]

when Pike was about to kill Zack, he showed a dark side and admitted that the meteor “showed them who they were,” that kind of left me hanging, I’m sure we’ll visit a dark side of pike in a later episode - or hopefully, season - as he confronts with his fate.

[@JustYFriend]

🤞🤞

[@carolbriscoe9337]

I never noticed the uniform discrepancy till you pointed it out. Good for you, no one else seemed to have noticed, including the writers

[@samfisher6606]

I really enjoyed this episode. I love the idea of a society that has to live in the moment because they have no memory. And I love that they did an amnesia plot without it being the whole “bonk on the head that gives you amnesia and another bonk on the head that brings the memories back.” And I love the reference to Greek Mythology in the title. My only issue is Batel. Is she a ship captain or a JAG officer?

[@NeuroD369]

Yes. lol And I feel you… She served as a Ship’s Captain as a standing commanding officer to whom was assigned the USS Cayuga and was also Field Captain as a JAG officer. One may assume that as Thee ‘Guy’ in the Field, representing the face of Starfleet as acting ambassador, Ship CO, attorney for wayward crewmembers in a pinch, etc. that a required degree in Starfleet law would be apropos and one would think law-minded captains serving in the corps would help your upward mobility from captain to commodore as the competition seems to be tight, as it should be. One might imagine Commodore Geordi La Forge served on some Engineering Council designing innovative starships.

[@andreslinares6429]

Apparently she's both. Why is military law so bashed in Star Trek ?😂 Apparently Starfleet doesn't feel the need for JAG officers with a sole dedication to that duty

[@pangaeawriter8766]

I can definitely agree with you on the brain fog issue, Nick. I had Covid, but I also fight clinical depression, so I can't honestly say which causes it, but there are times where I get in such a thick fog that a KZbin video or TV show is all I can force myself to focus on, until I finally break through. But even though I've had some really bad trauma, it's made me who I am. As Kirk said in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier", "I don't want my pain taken away. I need my pain."

[@esecallum]

hi dose d3 may help you...look it up.

[@TheShumoby]

Take mega doses of Vitamin B1. It's water soluble and safe.

[@holisticanimal]

Loved the episode and loved that Pike and Patel are attempting to patch things up

[@3698s]

I would like to know what happens to the Kalar after the Enterprise removes that asteroid. I would like to know who built that castle and how did they construct it so the radiation would not affect those inside? With Zac gone there will be a power struggle, Did the Federation help guide them afterwards? All in all a very good episode and a great way to link TOS to SNW. Excellent point about the uniforms! I

[@trevorwhite915]

I agree it does feel like classic Trek, great episode

[@kuboaa101]

You know, no one seems to be mentioning the role the Enterprise computer played. Interesting amid our current AI explosion.

[@emaarredondo-librarian]

The computer follows the TOS model: it isn't sentient nor conscious. But is really good at answering questions, and Ortegas, by chance, asked the right questions to the only entity in the ship that had not lost its memories and could answer.

[@palmshoot]

That thought actually did enter my mind when I saw it.

[@kuboaa101]

@@emaarredondo-librarian Right, it's not sentient (yet). But it is an AI, not so unlike ChatGPT, who also isn't sentient (yet).

[@hamobu]

This was an amazing episode. Prior one as well. This might be the best star trek

[@ShawnHCorey]

So far, all of season 1 & 2 remind me of TOS. I like it.

[@Hando316]

Funny enough I was read some old stuff from The Cage on a Star Trek wiki of sorts and the name of Zack was one of the KIA from that battle Pike lost crew members. So if true it was nice it was properly included. In that wiki it stated Zack was Pike's personal yeoman later replaced by yeoman JM Colt. She was the short haired redhead in The Cage. I wonder if we will get that other character in TOS, Lt. Jose Tyler in a future SNW episode?

[@billkeithchannel]

Take the memory loss of *Dark City* and add in the emotional connection memory trigger of *50 First Dates* and you have a great TOS style episode.

[@kgurl]

I really felt that Original Star Trek vibes , it was a fantastic episode 👏 👌 🙌

[@tropicthndr]

I’m not feeling it at all, last two episodes just seemed like huge budget cuts, with barely enough people to fill a small room for the whole show.

[@susansokoloski2233]

Great episode bringing us back to TOS and explains a story moment that I never expected to be explained. I believe the finger swipe under the eye means to be watchful, but just a guess. I, too, would like to have that clarified. Wonderfully acted episode. I become more and more impressed with the acting in SNW each week.

[@ThatGuyWhoLivesinChina]

I do not believe for a second that Oike doesn't know exactly what Star Fleet tech that he left behind.

[@robert_bbiii]

Starfleet needs two classes that need to be taken yearly even after you graduate the academy. How not to set yourself up as a leader on pre-warp civilizations How not to leave people/things behind when you leave a planet. They really don't have a good track record

[@billkeithchannel]

The Church of Kelly agrees. (sorry, an Orville reference)

[@spiralx6249]

Hence, yet again, the usefulness of the Prime Directive.

[@robert_bbiii]

@@spiralx6249 yet it still happens. It is like the yearly harassment trainings employers do.

[@Corporations8MyBaby]

I 100% agree that this episode really felt like TOS storytelling with new tech for special effects and sets. Erica Ortagas is becoming such a cool, badass character. I see a metaphor with the abuses of capitalism - the field Kaylar believe that working for the rulers is good for them.

[@LaraA55]

@Sci-Finatics Hello Nick, thanks for your interesting review. I absolutely loved this solid , balanced, fun and interesting episode . It really felt like a TOS episode and the references to the Cage episode, especially the fortress. I was also happy to hear some of the Cage episode music in this episode, when Pike was fighting with one of the warriors. My heart was racing for Ortegas when she was in her quarters trying to figure out what to do whilst the asteroid rocks were hitting the Enterprise. I am liking how we are seeing more focus of other characters and their continuing story. I loved seeing more of Ortegas in this episode . I loved seeing Pike kicking ass during the shoot out. The meaning that stood out to me in this episode, personally mattered to me is how to live in the moment, and that wanting to forget painful memories, isn’t always necessarily a bad thing as in the end it makes one stronger, resilient, and who one is meant to be. Nick, a good pick up on the uniforms of the deceased landing party👍. Let us all know if you find out anything about the finger under the eye signal.

[@MyownprisonX]

Really enjoyed this episode which also reminded me a bit of TOS episode, The Omega Glory.

[@sgtscot658]

Excellent episode. was really surprised by how good it was.

[@randycompton5230]

Good catch on the music. I think the uniform thing boils down to the current uniform design contract. If they went back to an older uniform, they would probably need to pay that designer a royalty.

[@billkeithchannel]

It really stinks that creativity has to be stifled over proprietary rights and financial compensation. It was the court case between CBS and Paramount that created the Kelvin Timeline and subsequent Discovery alt universe (over licensing rights [old vs new] designs/actor likenesses).

[@dygz]

Ha! I mean... Ortegas doesn't forget how to fly the ship. Rather she forgets that she is supposed to fly the ship.

[@mikepanick9362]

It was an okay episode, still like the Spock episode, the first one, the most so far. Patiently waiting for the Gorn’s return. Actress playing Pike’s love interest is excellent.

[@MikeBig007]

Awesome episode reminded me of a Original Series episode

[@davery07]

I'm thinking Patel is going to get "Gorned" soon due to some sneak scenes where she is on a planet where the Gorn attack, all the relationship scenes with Pike. Anyone else thinking this?

[@billkeithchannel]

TOS had Kirk, Spock, and Bones at the core of episodes. It seems that Pike, La'an, and M'Benga is the cream to rise up since they seem to have the acting chops to land stories weekly.

[@lauriewhite8153]

I noticed that one of the MIA/KIA crew members was a C. Plummer. I thought that was a nice touch/reference

[@Rufudufus]

If you mean the Christopher Plummer who played the Klingon “Chang” in one the TOS features.... no, that actor died at age of 91 in 2021. The character Luq, who I assume is the one you are referring to, was played by Reed Birney..... also, not a crew member.

[@lauriewhite8153]

@@Rufudufus no i meant when they were having the briefing before they left for the mission. One of the KIA crew members was called C. Plummer. He had on a Blue Shirt.

[@c-130turbo3]

nice catch on the discovery uniforms and the high collars, if they are going to do Stark Trek well darn it they should keep and eye on that stuff, because WE keep an eye on that stuff, and your right this was a good episode!

[@dygz]

I mean... how often did TNG uniforms change?

[@brachiator1]

I wanted to finally get to an episode which saw the entire crew working together. But even apart from this, the story was disappointing. It got boring to see the away team and the ship's crew just aimlessly walking around forgetting. It was a nice twist to see the surviving crew member who had become the king, but then he just disappeared until the end. This was poor story construction. Ortegas reducing her job to just flying the ship was silly.

[@PlumbRalph]

I hope there is another episode more focused on Erica. I thought the eye wipe thing was to say “I see you”

[@brianworthington8493]

What about her haircut

[@joneskat4]

I absolutely love watching Melanie Scrofano as Captain Batel! The character is so incredibly different from Mrs. McMurray in Letterkenny that I often forget it’s the same actress!

[@mikepanick9362]

Agree, she lights up the screen anytime she’s on it.

[@family-accountemail9111]

Thanks I had not made the connection

[@gerardojg]

Obviously there is a history between La’An and the Dr. I’m guessing the Federation Klingon war. Dr. Benga (I hope that’s right) has combat skills as declared and previous episodes have shown. I assume it’s a gesture of support and devotion or reassurance. A fellow commenter said shared trauma. That’s reasonable if they shared a combat mission. That would likely include Nurse Chapel. I enjoyed it.

[@Kenneth_James]

They are supposed to be intelligent Starfleet officers but they are too stupid to get their ship away from the planet when they start to be affected by memory loss? Atleast have them forget so quickly they have no opportunity to move the ship so they don't seem like idiots!

[@alandombrow584]

Great summary, explanations, and references to OST. Thanks. I could use more detail on the meteor or asteroid on the planet and the asteroids above the planet. Both appeared to be the cause of the loss of memory - on the ship and on the planet. Did getting the meteor/asteroid off the planet fix the population memory-loss problem? That's what it looked like to me. So if a chunk of asteroid above the planet falls on the planet again, memory loss will return?

[@richardajoy79]

They always shit the bed when it comes to continuity, but overall I liked the episode and was great to see Ortegas have a larger role.

[@brianworthington8493]

Richard, do you like Ortegas haircut?

[@richardajoy79]

@@brianworthington8493 if it suited me, id have it.

[@origamimambo545]

@@brianworthington8493yes, I like the haircut, it’s just an extreme close cut version of ‘white sidewalls.’ So it’s believable but also a constant reminder that this is a different time and place. Does it bother you?

[@thumper8684]

If you are in a fight and all you have to hand is a long handled hammer, this is not terrible. Hold it like a staff. Block with the handle. If you get an opening bash your foe with the hammer end, but keep your hand close to that end to keep control of your weapon. Don't swing it like you are breaking rocks. People can dodge your blows in ways that rocks do not do. You will just leave yourself wide open to a counter attack.

[@Peterkrack]

An asteroid changing the planet isn’t natural?? Or is throwing it into the debris field and flying away hoping it doesn’t break up and get pulled back in or more or does the rock just miss the field and hit something else??

[@reverendriff5597]

I'd like to know why during most of this episode Pike's hair was parted on the right side of his head. At the end of the episode, the part was back on the left side of his head as is his usual style.

[@andreslinares6429]

Interesting take away from this. Batel must outrank Pike due to seniority. In the first episode she tells Pike she has a higher security clearance than him and now we know shes gunning for a flag officer promotion. Pike isn't

[@billkeithchannel]

I like that the castle was a Star Fort. _Tartaria/Star Forts_ is a big rabbit hole of research on KZbin.

[@KarinaHunter]

I thought they had explained the "Tear wiping mime" in the 1st season, something about Lay-an's family being murdered by that brutal-aggressive race?

[@billkeithchannel]

Seeing that created an emotional response in me so I think you are right that it was explained earlier. So my brain knew it meant something even though I don't have the exact memory. Oh how apropos.

[@spockblocked6718]

Telling that... when Pike confronts Zach, and Zach says, the planet "shows you how you really are..." Wow, is forecasting to you know what when lives there later after accident.

[@videovoidtv]

This has been my favorite episode yet. I loved both everything on the planet and everything on the ship. Ortegas was incredible. PS they should have worn the sweaters from TOS era in my opinion.

[@esecallum]

Best episode so far and the best writing too so far in this episode. This how it should be.

[@twobeerandomland856]

wait how did they get the memories restored?

[@kildareire]

Getting away from the radiation seems to solve the problem. The people in the palace were protected because of the ore the palace is made of. And Ortegas piloted the ship away from the planet/asteroids.

[@randycompton5230]

That check rub thing came from season one, episode one. Mbenga does that gesture towards LaAnn. Pike says “oh yea, you had to certify her for duty”. Some sort of tribal thing.

[@TheJFerg24]

Thank you for that

[@lorenzwinterhoff8049]

La'an's eye motion message meaning -> Wipe your tears.

[@joey_cordova_]

I gave up the uniforms. But I think Discovery S2 mentioned their were two styles and Lower Decks has mentioned this as well. And I think SNW uniforms are a retcon of Discovery S2

[@bmiller949]

I agree, the episode felt very TOS... even with Gene Coon's notes in the margin.

[@mirahsan2]

snw I feel is finally hitting a stride, it's respecting canon, dash of it's own identity, I hope paramount/writers finally understand this. BUT, they need to make trek available on more platforms. Maybe the USA wouldn't have become so polarized if trek was actually accessible to everyone

[@christelting1359]

The writing is getting somewhat better as far as characters. But writers shouldn't be learning on a show like this. They should already know how to write. They don't have a clue about the science fiction or military life. Captains can hook up but they can't have a normal relationship. Soldiers have assignments which don't care about their dating life let alone marriage. The only possibility of a relationship is a civilian that can choose to follow you. This are star ships. At best it can take months or years to get from one edge of the known galaxy to the other. Unlike being posted in a foreign country these ships are traveling all the time... A romantic partner would have to be actually on the ship as it traveled. In this era there were no children on these star ships so as soon as you mary and have children you can't stay on the ship anymore. If you not having children there is no reason to get married. There are work around to people getting stationed together but the higher in rank you the harder that is work out. Novice writing.

[@good_teanice_house6789]

Good catch on the uniforms. I really wish modern trek had some sort of consistency around the star fleet uniforms. It's getting out of hand with how many there are.

[@Hando316]

In that TOS episode they weren't wearing the DISCO type of uniforms. Strangely enough I don't remember anybody wearing red uniforms in that episode. It was only yellow and blue.

[@tarmaque]

I'm pretty sure they explained the changing uniforms thing in an episode of _Star Trek: Lower Decks._ Something to do with the fact that all ships got to design their own uniforms under a certain set of parameters. Which is one reason why the uniforms on The Ceritos are subtly different from The Enterprise in _Star Trek the Next Generation._ Also, I do not consider _Discovery_ to be canon. It made too many changes to bloody everything. I feel the same way about _Picard._ Those two are the "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" of the Star Trek universe.

[@dygz]

TNG also did not have consistency with Starfleet uniforms. Nor did the Shatner Trek films

[@omegagamer4124]

@@dygz true and when they did update the uniforms for ds9 when voyager was still airing they didn't update the uniforms since they were stuck in the delta quadrant

[@billkeithchannel]

I think Continuity Consultant is the title listed on TNG episodes.

[@boreddum4849]

that looked like snow, but it must have been volcanic ash everywhere . it couldn't have been that cold if they spent the night inba cage .

[@bjorn00000]

I like Melanie Scrofano in this role, but I'm super, SUPER concerned that they're setting up Batel just to fridge her in one of the last three episodes of the season. (Note that reviewers have screened the first six episodes and probably would have been mentioned it already, and episode seven is the Lower Decks crossover.)

[@ryanricardo]

Love the channel 🖖👌

[@stevewindisch7400]

Great vid, thanks for it. But I disagree a bit about the covid parallel. I would suspect the writer who thought this up, had an elderly relative who suffered from Alzheimers / dementia.

[@origamimambo545]

I agree, right down to the retention of certain learned skills but quickly forgetting the day to day reality.

[@chucka.3520]

Very slow episode. Great Review Nick.

[@mrspinner2588]

Anyone else was annoyed by the ringing noise? I watched with my headphones and needed to take them of cause noise was so irritating. But episode was really great and amazing overall

[@randycompton5230]

I have tinnitus in real life. Imagine that screech 24 hours a day. That’s enough to give you brain fog.

[@mrspinner2588]

@@randycompton5230 i also have tinnitus in real life but thankfully its really mild and sometimes, mostly provoked with strong noises. 24h a day sounds pretty bad and difficult to imagine

[@randycompton5230]

@@mrspinner2588 there are times I don’t notice the ringing. It’s been coming on strong for the last day or so. I think I’m getting a head cold and that’s the worst.

[@brianworthington8493]

Erica's haircut is annoying

[@CaptainFirefred]

Hey, you're Nick and damn you're quick!

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

It was an ok episode, fortunately my favorite parts are the Ortegas scenes. Hopefully, sooner or later we'll get an all Ortegas episode.

[@esecallum]

horror haircut ortea. cant stand her

[@dsat1908]

I agree. Seems most commentators thought it was a great episode. I am not one of them

[@esecallum]

@@dsat1908 bad science too the asteroid rocks were causing the memory problems.. The debris field was shielding them. The enterprise can't detect radiation...

[@ptiger96]

They can't fix the uniforms as they are already bound to the continuity of The Cage.

[@meisner6895]

I never really thought of it... but why can't a super tech star ship ... not have the computer ever navigate it? Actually, now doesn't make sense that a person is required, even in an emergency?

[@SalvatoreEscoti]

So, what I really cant understand: The Ship's computer is obviously a very advanced AI. WHY arent there ANY protocolls that allow the ship's computer to take control over the ship in situations when ALL staff is incapacitated, and the ship is in danger of being destroyed and/or heavily damaged? The crew was completely incapacitated, the ship was in a sticky situation.. so the ships Computer should be able to assess this dangerous situation and take controll in ordert to bring the ship OUT of that dangerous situation! I would have loved to see the ships computer being more proactive !!!! What is the point in an advanced Ship AI if it does not protect you from danger?!! Can anyone explain this plothole?

[@michaelgarrity6090]

This was yet another episode of Strange New Worlds il which in baseball terms, "they knocked it out of the ballpark with a three-run walk-off Home run to win the game in the final inning.

[@bjorn00000]

The thing that I'm a little confused about is - how exactly did Luq have a regular life to forget?

[@emaarredondo-librarian]

Luq didn't have a regular life; everybody in his condition were ordered what to do every day - like slaves, but worse. Now, as he explained, emotional memory was not lost and they tattooed on themselves the most important things, like the names of their loved ones. Living in the moment, just one day at a time, Luq fell in love with a woman, and they had a child. After some time, they left, or died. He forgot about them, but felt the pain of the loss. It happens sometimes to people with dementia, that they forget the names of their loved ones, but remember they are their loved ones.

[@bjorn00000]

@@emaarredondo-librarian Yeah, that still doesn't quite get there for me. This is a system that existed for a very long time, so how would people get the names to tattoo to themselves, or even know how to tattoo? And the emotional memory concept is okay, but the 50 First Dates concept probably wouldn't work if Adam Sandler and Drew Barrymore both had amnesia. Even with dementia people start off with normal memories. That all isn't the point of course! This story (and ST in general) and theme don't depend on it being possible. But that kind of fridge logic just pulled me out of the episode a bit.

[@billkeithchannel]

@@emaarredondo-librarian *50 First Dates* had video tape instead of tattoos. That emotional connection helped Drew's character get caught up to speed quickly as time passed on since she would forget her past daily.

[@emaarredondo-librarian]

@@bjorn00000 Please remember :-), in that planet not everybody was amnesiac. The ruling class living in the palace (and possibly in other dwellings) and the guards, who used helmets, had no memory problems. Even more, the amnesia was totally and (maybe too) quickly reversed by not being exposed to the funky asteroid's radiation. Yep, the concept is far fetched (typical TOS Star Trek!) but a society like that could work since there were people with intact memories in command telling the amnesiac ones everything they had to do. Slavery in the US worked a bit like that. The master could name the enslaved people, decide on their offspring, assign jobs, kill them if they were too rebellious. I think this episode was about that slavery, even when accepted, isn't never really voluntary. Belonging to a cult, maybe?

[@gardinchannel1166]

Since they have removed the asteroid from the planet I guess now the Kalas society can start developing towards a more civilized one and, who knows, maybe they can have their first contact experience with starfleet in the 31st century. Hello Starfleet Academy screenwriters!! 👋 🖖

[@stevengalloway8052]

🤔 Was there something in the castle that protected the yeoman from forgetting, or what? 🤨

[@kildareire]

Yes, the palace was made of an ore that protects from the radiation. I think Zac is the one who mentions it.

[@stevengalloway8052]

@@kildareire - Okay, thanks. Makes it worse for Zac, though. He's screwed... 😆

[@travisboyle285]

Their helmets are also made of the ore.

[@origamimambo545]

@@travisboyle285that would make sense, I didn’t catch that.

[@westiniroh5406]

This is the second episode this season with the good doctor in combat. Also the second for the Space Batman/La'an in combat. No complaints about that from me.

[@billkeithchannel]

TOS had Kirk, Spock, and Bones at the core of episodes. It seems that Pike, La'an, and M'Benga is the cream to rise up since they seem to have the acting chops to land stories weekly.

[@Peterkrack]

Being hit by the radiation on the planet makes sense they had no tech but the ship?? They flew right into it and they had a memory situation and Spock wasn’t the one to come around first? The computer confirms it’s up to her. The doctor says no complicated operations but Ortega does the awesome looking dual phaser beam 360degree ship spin instead of remembering it’s a space ship and can fly in all directions and isn’t a plane. Ship has to turn to aim its main weapons but Riker flew that little ship like that in war games

[@HereticReborn]

Probably just me, but Ortega’s informal smart alec attitude towards other bridge folks is just annoying me. The I’m ultra cool thing just gets old.

[@brianworthington8493]

Totally agree. I'm Erica Ortegas and I have a really shitty haircut.

[@Kenneth_James]

I think i used the C word towards Ortega 10 separate times

[@chadmacgargle5311]

Good episode. I loved the dual threat where the players on world face in one angle and the player on ship face from another, classical Star Wars. I was disappointed the Spocks contributions we covered in exposition. On screen everything is falling apart/cut to everything is fine and explain Spock fixed it. Kind of cheap and a disservice to an otherwise very good episode.

[@danjsilve]

Best episode by a mile for me in Season 2, though a little reminiscent of Cloud Minders from TOS. Can I have some please Sir?

[@jgvillan01]

For me, the only "weak" plot point would be Ortega's interaction with the ship's computer. Like HOW would the computer come to the conclusion that "home" is Ortega's quarters?

[@brianworthington8493]

What about her haircut lol

[@GregConquest]

Her quarters are where she lives. My house/apartment/condo/tent/cave is my home. What's the mystery?

[@palmshoot]

It's like when you type "nearby" into Google Maps: Your "nearby" is likely different than my "nearby." Another example would be like those ads that show you what you recently searched for on a shopping website. Maybe the badges act like a fingerprint.

[@origamimambo545]

@@brianworthington8493go ahead you could cut your hair too. It’s okay if you want to, give into your desire, it’s only hair.

[@jb7591]

one viewing was enough for me.

[@lesliedavid1244]

The yeoman armed the natives.

[@curtwelling6853]

Captain Patel is a babe. Captain Pike, don’t screw it up!

[@joy945]

This episode also reminded me of "The Cloud Minders" of TOS. The troglytes (troglodytes) toil in the mines below, while the enlightened beings in the cloud city above enjoy a cultured life. Turns out the two groups of people are the same race, the only difference is the presence of an "invisible gas" that is emitted by the zenite being mined. Filter out this gas and the effects go away.

[@dtremethick8769]

Civilizations is spelled incorrectly.

[@outermarker5801]

Whoever thought it was a bright idea to put repeated piercing ringing in the audio track os Ep 4 needs to be blasted with a phaser set to 'obliterate' 🤬

[@NediSafa]

I have long covid and found this episode horrifying.

[@Blazingstoke]

False advertising: Not one lotus was eaten during the episode.

[@TheTransporter007]

After the events of S1E10 and the trial, I hope someone blows Patel out of the Stars, Chang style.

[@MTalac]

This episode was ok

[@brianworthington8493]

I'm Erica Ortegas and I have a really bad haircut

[@LancetFencing]

yet another non-rewatchable episode. no reason to watch this one again

[@brianworthington8493]

You are angry. Your favorite character must be Erica Ortegas.

[@bioshock6935]

They should be wearing discovery uniforms but thats down to bad writing where they didn't thought things out. Obviously this is an oversight of the team for this show why this show wasn't cannon in the first place as i don't think there all clued up on star trek there knowledge is very limited. They seem to know how to make the show look like star trek but as for writing and there knowledge it shows a lot even way back from discovery season 1

[@DaveB4529]

I saw it as an allegory to Alzheimer's/dementia...

[@she-3PO]

thank you for doing a review of this episode! the ear-piercing ringing they put in the episode in every scene made me turn it off, it was unbearable. i'd rather just watch a review of the episode and skip to the next one.

[@darknerd8332]

This episode was pretty boring, which was disappointing really. Though the scene where Ortegas sends the ship into a barrel roll while blasting a hole into the asteroid was amazing

[@spockblocked6718]

"Trouble getting close..." Ah, what? Don't know, your GF just tried to prosecute your friend/First Office and want 30 years in jail, and make her career. How would you want to be around someone like that? (Oh, I must have close issues. Sorry that I would want to get away from a tyrant person. Just business. Oh, and if you stab me with a knife, I'll be the one to apologize. What is this crazy making?

[@ThisIsMeAndNotYou]

500!

[@juniorlove4all917]

Not liking these recent SNW episodes. Reminds me of how boring TOS was growing up as a kid. Zero interest in Pike’s romance drama. Isn’t this like the 3rd chick he’s been with? The first 2 episodes of this season were awesome, now it’s starting to go downhill.

[@Patricia599]

too bad they dumped on Spock once again in this episode. Ortegas is just awful towards him, constantly humiliating him and making disrespectful and derogatory comments. Very off-putting characteristic of the show.

[@deanzaZZR]

🤮I skipped over much of the past two episodes. I couldn't even get through this one. For me at least season 2 is a big disappointment.

[@Cathoray2012]

It was boring and juvenile.

[@nonamenameless5495]

Love Strange New Worlds so far but this episode was truly disappointing and felt lost from start to finish...like a wanna be fan service overkill coz of the Riegel 7 ToS episode. In my book, by far the worst episode of SNW so far but so what, 1 episode out of all of the rest so far, that s still a truly impressive resume.

[@subbtopp]

Also its about Alzheimers

[@Sdewebb]

This episode was boring and 2 dimensional. Very ship in a bottle. However the highlight in the episode was when Spock said, emotions are not facts. Freaking awesome. Please tell this to all the gender ideology people who feel They're a woman, but the facts and science say otherwise. Thank you Spock for remaining reasonable and logical.

[@Patricia599]

somehow this line got past the women writers on the show. Spock is the most illogical member of the crew on SNW.