Star Trek TNG Data "Drop the shields" - S5E11 - 6 January 1992

[@Ribby00]

These kinds of scenes are what make this show great. The crew trust one another and trust each other's abilities. When Data makes the suggestion Riker is caught up in the moment, but Data calmly and firmly re-iterates his suggestion. Picard trusts Data and gives the order. Worf complies with what seems like a suicidal order *immediately*, because he too trusts in his fellow crew's abilities. It's just awesome.

[@theorbitalone7283]

4 year old comment lol, but thats exactly what i love about TNG, whenever weird shit happens like when Worf was phasing through realities, the crew did tests and explored how it could be happening. Instead of just dismissing him. I love how the crew is actually competent and likeable. And like you said, they trust eachother enough with no questions asked in situations like that

[@waynec38]

@@theorbitalone7283 And On Top of it,The Episode shows a Highly unlikely Scenario.....An Ordinary Boy Helped save the Enterprise from Complete Destruction.....A LITTLE BOY...Saved The Enterprise,By giving Data The info he needed to solve the wave problem...Insane..Little boy saves lives,lol!

[@rickdeckard1075]

lol 1:47 then they just turn their backs and ignore the kid and the android that solved their problem.... typical management

[@jackvearncombe9892]

And after it all works out, Riker isn't annoyed that data was right and him saying "it's suicide" is wrong, he's just curious about how data came to that suggestion.

[@ItsMotoMatt]

@@rickdeckard1075 Data doesn't thrive on positive reinforcement like you and I. He doesn't require coddling or praise like ordinary people.

[@BoogerDeluxe22]

picard is great and all but lets face the truth here - he pretty much has a dream team of people working under him

[@bonusbaby801]

BILL PAXTON that's what a good captain does. Assembles a good team, rallies them to work together, in turn they rally to support him...and a good team becomes a great team.

[@NameCallingIsWeak]

" he pretty much has a dream team of people working under him" Which is why it's such a joy to watch Star Trek:TNG

[@nanatheneko]

The enterprise is the flagship of starfleet so naturally they will assign the best officers they can to it

[@starcrafter13terran]

My father told me that it's best to have a team that is partly great at their job and partly potentially great at their job so you're always training up new solid links in the chain.

[@creditsunknown7974]

Exept Troy She literally was only helpful 3 times

[@Liesmith424]

Picard: "Data, how did you know that would work?" Data: "In actuality, I just wanted to end it all. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined."

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

It wouldn't surprise me if Brent did that for an outtake.

[@salkabalani1482]

Very well Mr Data. Excute opcode 0xDD Halt and Catch Fire

[@daveedwards8811]

Liesmith Data must have had some bad fast food brah!

[@Enormymous]

That'll be all, Mr Liesmith

[@crypastesomemore8348]

Liesmith hard to imagine how Data would quantity disappointment to such a degree so as to bring about an experiential effect

[@paulzy5192]

"Thanks for saving the ship and all of our lives Data" - said no one ever (at least in this episode).

[@Innomen]

+Paul Paige The fact that he's not president of the federation or at least the single highest ranking SF figure is proof that SF/Humanity is corrupt and broken.

[@MrDalewin]

+Brandon “Innomen” Sergent as it has been and always will be, it doesn't matter what the Federation says, I'm calling bullshit on that famous quote that says that they have evolved past materialism and revenge and all that, there is no way you can get rid of those human elements no matter how technologically advanced you get

[@Innomen]

Dalen Lewin Agreed. There's a great quote in Johnny the Homicidal Maniac that supports your point and is actually very relevant to star trek in that they expressly and overtly refuse to leverage their technological gains into human ones. (Transhumanism.) _"All perfectly natural in a society whose advances are limited to its technology. The basic behavior of the modern human is hardly different from that of its primitive ancestors. The only noticeable changes are trends. Whether in a suit or a loincloth, people are ignorant little thorns, cutting into one another. They seem incapable of advancing beyond the violent tendencies which, at one time, were necessary for survival."_ ~Nny Star trek has halted it's natural evolution and outlawed unnatural evolution. Stagnation is the predictable result.

[@Johnny-rx4hs]

@ Dalen Lewin Just look at the episode "The Wounded"

[@builder396]

While genetic evolution does stagnate in such a case, social evolution flourishes. Behaviour that is deemed unacceptable gets outlawed or at least earns frowns, and the definition of "unacceptable" gets refined and adjusted based on new dilemmas and problems that are faced. For example in "The measure of a man" the question is explored whether Data is a lifeform or a machine. The federation doesnt go through a full on revolution, but something is definitely added. Even today, genetic evolution only happens in a very limited way, but socially we still evolve, progressing towards more acceptance or the differences between ourselves as we found that concepts such as racism or homophobia had previously been detrimental (and to a lesser degree still are whenever practiced), with for example in the US having several new laws aimed towards LGBT protection from discrimination. Its unlikely that this change will ever really stop, as there will be new questions to ask, possibly some medical breakthrough that requires some considerations whether its ethically applicable.

[@Chris9183]

one characteristic of the TNG episodes i've always liked, and has often drawn me back to them over the years, is how relaxing they are. they arent constant action, they're very consistent, and manage to hold your interest without forcing you to "be on the edge of your seat". they're especially relaxing shows to watch when you're sick, and/or need to unwind. hopefully that makes sense to some people.

[@FloydMaxwell]

Part of that is they are generally happy endings.

[@jessstuart7495]

My Dad and I used to watch STTNG when they originally aired every Saturday night when I was a kid. It's the comfort food of sci-fi.

[@HalcyonSkies]

This is true for me especially. I watched this when I was going through Chemotherapy all the time back in 1994. Made it a little more bearable.

[@55Quirll]

I agree, even the 6 Star Trek movies of the Original Series were quite good and not always violent - there was violence but of a less degree than what STD gives us. I watch The Orville rather than STD, it is more of the Star Trek series, little violence, lots of exploration and helping people, good plots, acting.

[@lkgstudios]

whole heartedly. TNG and DS9 were the last in a group of series, the end of an era where execs did not force base television down your throat. No ultra sexy garbs or glaring sex scenes, no action packed... I believe you said edge of your seat, sequences to hook the viewer like you do with drugs to a crackhead. Respectfully tasteful, intriguing and entertaining television. That is why you can still watch it today from the beginning and it still stands. Unfortunately the millenial and Z gens are screwed because they have been conditioned differently in their tv watching... but that is another debate altogether.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Before I ever watched Star Trek, I figured it was about outer space. Astronomy. That kind of thing. Once you've finished the series you realize it wasnt about space at all. It was about the human condition. Relationships. Friendship. Loyalty. Psychology. One of the best shows man has ever created.

[@stultuses]

Exactly It develops each character as the show moved along Believe it or not, some workplaces are like this (used to be). I worked in one for many years until outsourced I remember one such instance, we had a major failure and customers were calling in by the 100's irate We all started looking at the issue (we had different expertise in various areas) and as we worked on the problem we called out what we found, it was like a mass pooling of ideas As different aspects were uncovered it enabled us to refine the issue closer and closer until we cracked what was the cause What was amazing was when management came in and asked who fixed the issue, a whole bunch of people yelled out "we all did" One of the many awesome moments experienced. I'm still trying to find a similar bunch of people who know how to keep their ego's in check and work together like this with others So many people never get to experience real team work, management often loves their individual hero's too much

[@Yogsoggeth]

Sorry to be a pessimist, but this is how every movie and show is sold to us. Want to see a show about X, well here is a show about people reacting and interacting with X. The show is about the people, the subject matter is only the premise.

[@tomzicare]

Which modern ST lacks like hell.

[@Luciphell]

@@tomzicare Modern ST is dismissive of X and only cares about the human interpersonal drama. At least "Strange New Worlds" was watchable.

[@frankcalabrese8273]

It's also about transcending the physical into the non material as seen in the series finale

[@ryanm7263]

I love that "I'm fucking serious" look Data gives when he says "Drop the shields." "This is the time to trust me, Captain."

[@poisonhemlock]

Funny how Lore jumped through all kinds of hoops to try and get the shields down, when he could have just turned around and asked sternly.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

+poisonhemlock They where not in a desperate situation back then.

[@DouglasZwick]

I love Worf's "I don't know what the fuck is going on but w/e" look as he says, "aye."

[@n0wheregrrl]

The willingness of Picard to trust Data was a direct reflection of all that Data had done to that point to earn that trust.

[@OAleathaO]

The only thought going through Worf's mind as he lowers the shields is, "Perhaps today _is_ a good day to die." lol

[@nisfornick]

I love how Data reaches out to steady Tim at 0:04. Easy to miss, but very sweet.

[@Kitties_are_pretty]

Great eye, Ensign.

[@thingsiplay]

OH, thats so cute. :>

[@straightpipediesel]

They can't shake the set, so on command by the director, everybody jumps back so it looks like an impact. If you look, Brent Spiner shoves the kid back with his elbow first, the hand is to prevent him from falling over. I suspect this was done after several takes where they couldn't get the kid and Data to sync right.

[@birddemon1820]

I like to see it this way. Data has practically adopted the kid at this point in the episode, he needed someone and Data tried to be a good role model. He subconsciously(or something like that, cause android) reached out to make sure this kid was alright. He didn't even think about it. Instinct. Regardless of how they filmed it, that bit...felt that.

[@lisasimmons5362]

Wow. Never noticed that before. Very sweet of Data, my fave among the regular characters. Thx for mentioning Data's kindness.

[@thetim6764]

This episode is a masterpiece. The boy pretending to be an android could have been very cringy but instead they managed to approach the subject of trauma and healing in a very sensible manner.

[@carminemurray6624]

He was more importantly imitating his Hero, And he saved them all becoming the true Hero. That his Hero happened to be an Android was irrelevant and immaterial.

[@amelliamendel2227]

🙄

[@scottiecraig9768]

It was still cringe

[@bosshog8844]

@@scottiecraig9768 wrong

[@makim-k5850]

@@scottiecraig9768 I mean, the kid was the sole survivor of a horrible wreck and thought he was to blame for killing everyone on board including his parents and everyone else he knew...I'd go a little kooky too and pretend to be an android after that kind of thing.

[@deltaray3]

Picard: Status ensign? Ensign: I'm really happy to not be dead, sir.

[@xBloodXGusherx]

haha. all the cute ensigns get killed.

[@wellesradio]

Ah, that would have been a great ad lib!

[@Trek001]

Viq -Ensigns Ro, Allenby, McKnight, Monroe and Jae all survived

[@sbrazenor2]

And then the console explodes without warning, killing the ensign. LOL :)

[@cjgangi0123]

Monroe died in Disaster

[@jokerinthebronx]

What I love here is the absolute, unwavering trust Picard has in his crew. It's also funny how Data still doesn't realize he does have emotions. He gave Picard that look, and Picard knew Data wasn't fucking around.

[@TheKyrix82]

He doesn't have emotions, but he's an unparalleled mimic and has been studying human social cues for years, he's learned to convey information with expressions

[@Roper122]

@@TheKyrix82 Exactly

[@philipfahy9658]

@@TheKyrix82 It becomes like the argument about dogs, however. Someone says, "dogs can't understand speech", yet they respond to vocal cues, recognize their name, and can follow direction. So at what point is it 'mimicry' and at what point is it just doing the thing you're purported to be mimicking.

[@TheKyrix82]

@@philipfahy9658 Good question. I'll frame it like this.I have 3 cats, who are relatively vocal. In several cases, I can tell you which cat is making which noise, and what the noise 'means'. One of my cats will occasionally wake up, presumably from a nightmare, making very insistant cries as she runs straight to me for affection and assurance. In this case, I know this is a priority thing. She also has a similar meow for when she demands attention, that's not as urgent. Meanwhile, if I tell my dog 'go to bed!' she generally understands that as me expressing the desire to go to a certain location and lay down. She has a vague idea of what I'm labeling as 'bed', but the actual words 'go to bed' are gibberish to her. She can understand context, but not content. I can tell her she's a little shit in an affectionate way and an angry one, the words are the same, but the context and my tone set the meaning.

[@Dracattack]

He has basic emotions he doesnt quite understand thats what they are though. Thats why I hate the emotion chip instead of his brain evolving to get them naturally over the course of the show he just gets a cheat switch

[@TheBlarggle]

The one thing I really, really loved about this show is that almost no one ever rolled their eyes and went "In English please!" Like, when Data or Geordi spouted off the technobabble, if you weren't a complete numbskull you knew what they were saying even if it's made up. We all understand the concept of "energy overload" and "transmitter assembly" and other faux-fantasy science jargon. So it's nice for the Captains and First Officers to understand the "science" when it's delivered to them and not need it dumbed down.

[@VTX-Live]

I hate it when people say in english please to the most simple stuff. Like if you can't comprehend what he just said then why are you here? So it's nice to see that in ST where there's no idiot people moments.

[@xhagast]

@@VTX-Live Exactly. It was Starfleet. Elite of the elite. At the very least they had the technical stuff down. It would have been like people in a hospital not knowing what a heart attack was. MAYBE the janitors don't know but I doubt it.

[@windrunner9158]

@@xhagast yea Star Fleet is elite

[@bubbaguy4411]

@@VTX-Live **rolls eyes** uhm...can you reword that IN ENGLISH, please?

[@uhejnjd]

Well I mean it needs to be dumbed down for the audience THAT'S why people say "In English". So basically them saying "the more power we put in the shields means a bigger attack" is them dumbing it down for us. Thus they did say "In English" but just had the first officer explain it.

[@sithsmasher7685]

Picard had balls. He didn't know what was going on but completely trusted what Data suggested. That serious look on Data's face might have helped. :)

[@nefariousnilbog]

truth

[@singletona082]

He is the captain of the fleet's flagship and he knows exactly how good the people under his command are... and for how bloody rare it is for Data to countermand an order especially in the middle of an impending catastrophe.

[@ahapka]

Not to mention if it's so powerful it's going to rip the ship apart anyways, might as well run with it just in case he has a good reason.

[@MethodSkeptic]

Sith Smasher you know Data's got a subroutine somewhere for "this is my serious face that humans will listen to."

[@DocWolph]

"Damned if you do. Damned if you don't." "Best to go out trying." "Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing." In that order.

[@Rekaert]

The focus is on Data in this, but I particularly like Worf's expression when ordered to drop the shields. He doesn't have to say anything. His expression just screams out, "Well fk it, nothing else is working ... here goes nothing."

[@jacobslavek2136]

Spiner's acting was undeniably good, however Dorn gets the gold for his reaction and subsequent take to the main viewer.

[@auricstorm]

I feel he needed some sort of "today is a good day to die" type of thing

[@glemmstengal]

Gotta respect his lack of hesitation too.

[@AllahDoesNotExist]

He be like "nigga you for real?"

[@birddemon1820]

"Fuck it, today IS a good day to die"

[@sethc6663]

''Well done Timothy and Data, excellent work. You two just saved all of our lives'' _said no one_ 🙁

[@fastertrackcreative]

Particularly Timothy. Data was just doing his job and is an adult, sort of.

[@sethc6663]

@@fastertrackcreative They just turn their back on Timothy and Data, no recognition at all

[@wontontiger3838]

Watch the whole episode.

[@robby1816]

I said it.

[@mediocreman2]

Yeah let's assume everything in an under 2 minute clip. How dense are you?

[@larrytruelove7112]

“Drop the shields!” “I can’t. Windows is updating.”

[@RoadRash89]

Omg I laughed way too hard at this.

[@spockofdune8657]

good one

[@hadesobsidian5231]

Captains Log: Star Date 21605.8 F*ck you bill gates. [end transmission]

[@secretmission7607]

Haha!

[@jamesfrank3213]

Data...if you're wrong, it will be noted in the log...

[@cedrichartz6426]

If data was wrong then who put the note in the log

[@cedrichartz6426]

@Francisco Nieves u feel healthy lately?

[@Tantalus010]

Which piece of the log? The one right here or the one several hundred kilometers over there? Or is it the one a few thousand kilometers that way?

[@Dowlphin]

333

[@dominicomegon4714]

lmfao

[@mediawolf1]

Data mastering non-verbal communication. No time to explain, but notice the urgency and unwavering conviction in my expression.

[@peter9477]

"Captain, drop the shields. There's a feedback loop and the shields are actually causing the problem." Hmmm, seems like more than enough time to explain.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@peter9477 Nope.

[@peter9477]

@@RideAcrossTheRiver Thanks for the thoughful and convincing counter-argument. (Not! :-) )

[@ChicksTerminator96]

Peter Hansen he is an android. He knew the time to explain and to react Would be to close

[@pxlmvr7]

I like how Data effectively gave Captain Picard a direct order; that’s what makes a great Commander!

[@raven4k998]

Captian Drops the Shields 😊

[@CharlesHepburn2]

That’s the power of integrity right there... he doesn’t need to explain himself... in the face of life and death Data is trusted with his words alone. Powerful move. That look on Picard’s face when he is trying to read data before deciding to go with him was very classy and well done. Bravo!

[@mitchbarredo3990]

I was a teenager when this show came out. I won't get into specifics but I had a very rough childhood with bullying and emotional neglect from so called family, etc. This show made me feel so happy and kind of connected because these characters were like family and maybe I imagined that I was maybe part of that too. They respected and loved each other as people and as colleagues.

[@swedsteve93]

Data being a boss as usual

[@sarahkinsey5434]

I love Data

[@swedsteve93]

Sarah Kinsey my desktop picture is Data with a beard. Pretty sure he only had it one episode.

[@chrisbeddows7099]

Data's a straight up g

[@jupitereuropa-e3w]

He mustn't even try to be badass.

[@mchllwoods]

He did an awesome job in commanding that other ship when they were battling the Romulans. That first officer that didn't won't to work under him. Data really put him in his place. For an Android who doesn't have emotion, he sure was pissed at him. U go Data!!!

[@swiger530]

Someone or something tried to kill them every goddamned week for 20 years. I'm the crewman who would have asked to transfer to a cargo ship after that bullshit at Farpoint.

[@copycatninjitsu]

+Michael Swiger no prune juice for you, that is reserved for warriors.

[@theerikin8431]

+Michael Swiger id still work on that ship, just make sure im not wearing a red shirt

[@1stb1]

+Michael Swiger god damn hippies asking for more OSHA power to regulate all bunch of shit. always wanting real space suits in space or combat zones instead of comfy and fashionable pyjamies, ipads and lcd screens that aren't filled with c4 or fireballs, want non-conducting protection when touching live electrical components, doctors that wash their hands with every patient or use sterile gloves during surgery, holodecks that have failsafes that don't break every other day, actual tie downs for those blue barrels that seem to rain down all the time. mang, we ain't got time or money for that stuff. mang, we ain't even got money. mang, money doesn't even exist.

[@randomaccessvideo4907]

+The Erikin84 Red shirts did ok on TNG, yellow shirts.. not so good!

[@1stb1]

RandomAccessVideo you don't need no gloves or tetanus shots to handle radioactive metal debris with sharp jagged edges. without high turnover rates, how else are we going to create jobs when replicators have replaced all manufacturing and computers have replaced all services. the only jobs left are to poke sticks at dangerous anomalies or post cat videos on youtube

[@theanti-monitor6816]

I love how Picard and Riker obey Data without question when he is assertive.

[@jordanmicahcook]

This reflects the kind of trust that was common among the bridge crew . . . and Guinen.

[@paulmaus3792]

haha "and Guinen" yay data!

[@Rensune]

Trust is earned.

[@boatknight2246]

Im giving her all shes got, But i just canna suck it!!

[@doneson1717]

If data said "we all gotta take a bite out of this shit sandwich if we wanna get out of this one alive" you'd better not nibble.

[@morgangrey4020]

lmao ikr?

[@Grymmorgan]

RIKER: "Status, Ensign?" ENSIGN: "You are complete and ungrateful douchebags, sir."

[@dargos0312]

Well... he did risk all of their lives on a correlation.

[@DeathBringer769]

Well... it was also guaranteed imminent death if they didn't try something new.

[@uraldamasis6887]

Even though Data didn't understand emotion, he somehow knew exactly what facial expression and tone of voice to use to make the captain do the right thing.

[@JnEricsonx]

He's studied people for years, he understands the right "emotional state" to emulate to show his seriousness. He did it for Word and that guy Hobson?

[@Radiotomb]

"You're welcome." - Data

[@philamylon1479]

*You are

[@joelwillems4081]

@@philamylon1479 Thank you, Phil, this is Data and not his brother Lore.

[@backalleycqc4790]

"You're fucking welcome, you ungrateful ingrates. Not only did I save your miserable hides, but I also solved what happened to Timothy's ship".

[@chrisarseneault5617]

​@backalleycqc4790 this made me laugh!!!. Oh, how many times Data could have said those words (minus the crap about the kid).

[@floridabrn]

It occurs to me that the Enterprise, in a lot of cases, really only survived it's encounters because of the failure of a previous ship or crew. Without that information, they'd be the ones destroyed instead.

[@floydlooney6837]

or even destroyed over and over and over in a time loop?

[@simoncarlile5190]

That's how real life works. People try new things and sometimes it hurts or kills them. Later on, we learn enough about that new thing until its risks are understood, and people don't die as much when attempting it.

[@edfrees]

It's almost as if they aren't going where no man has gone before, but to where man had died before to learn from their mistakes and take the credit... yes.

[@lordsummerisle87]

There were 178 eipsodes of TNG. That's a lot of previous ships. I imagine there were a few scenes like this at Starfleet Command: "Congratulations Commander, you've been given command of the U.S.S. Mephistopheles. She's an unarmed science vessel made of paper mache that we're going to send to investigate negative space wedgies on the Romulan border for the next two years. The Enterprise will be just within hailing distance about 3 minutes before you explode, immediately before the opening credits roll." "Oh gods, I don't want to die. Got any opportunities on that old Cardassian space station near Bajor? That looks like a quiet little backwater. I know how to pretend other people's religious dreams are interesting and relevant if that helps."

[@danieldorn2927]

Kinda like redshirts used in TOS. Guess Picard was aware of himself wearing a redshirt, so he made a few request to the Admiral to send some redships first.

[@booksgaming1426]

I love how Data doesn't just rely on his hunch given by the kid alone, but takes the time to confirm his assumption through analysis before making a conclusion. Correlation != Causation, but he didn't exactly have a chance to test his hypothesis in a lab setting 😁

[@georgevanhoose6333]

That's the difference between Science and Engineering. As an engineer, a big part of my success is just learning to trust myself and my colleagues.

[@techracer2003]

Not even a "Very well done indeed, Mr. Data," for almost getting blown out into space

[@holysecret2]

It shows how much they trust in and rely on his competence. Things like this aren't even the exception. The lack of displayed admiration and appreciation could be interpreted in this way too. Perhaps they don't need to show it, it's implied.

[@Raptor747]

They're probably too stunned to process it.

[@MMaRsu]

@@vidyaWolf lol

[@MMaRsu]

@Poklando Im sure he thanks Data and commends Data plenty of times in the show Bro!

[@MMaRsu]

@Poklando Data is a sentient being :)

[@specialagentorange4329]

Data and R2-D2 have saved more lives than social security has retired

[@QixTheDS]

Amir Baraki don’t remind me of social security. I just got my paystub and made the mistake of looking at my taxes.

[@harmonybade324]

Lmaaooo

[@BravoDox]

Data mostly just saves the same lives repeatedly

[@MitchellTF]

"An explosives tech at a full run outranks everyone."

[@nigelft]

That reminds me of a, most likely, apocryphal, story ... After the fall of the Soviet Union, the IAEA was granted access to previously top secret 'nuclear cities'. During one such visit, a weapons inspector noted that a Russian scientist had something written on the back of his white coat. Asking a translator what it said, he got this reply back: 'If you see me running, you better be fast enough to keep up ...' ...

[@3Rayfire]

And firefighters.

[@jamesmartin9401]

Probably apocryphal but supposedly, a tech running back down Mt. Pinatubo yelled "Better put some jelly in your pocket, cuz' we're fixin' to be toast!"

[@JnEricsonx]

There's a similar line in the movie Richard Jewell, if I remember it mostly right, "Know what it means when the bomb tech goes pale?"

[@truthseeker308]

@@nigelft Or you just saw that in "The Sum of All Fears" movie with Ben Affleck. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaG3qniOaMaSl5o

[@bbenjoe]

Poor kid, he was the only survivor of the previous ship. He lost his parents there. He couldn't do anything to help them, but this time he helped save over a thousand lives.

[@DothFrmBBL]

Spihk Heartbust!? Spihk Heartbust Analyze & discuss results & effects as result when Bozeman Hotmail Recipient say " why it gotta be like that", out loud noticable to Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's Father!

[@wetlazer]

What the fuck? Sure Data called the shot, but the kid saved everyone and no one said "Thanks, you've saved the ship."

[@heedmywarning2792]

blame wesly crusher. he set the tone.

[@vinnynj78]

Shut up, Wesley!

[@alextrebek8293]

yup, i thought the same

[@remo687]

Yeah I was thinking that. I can see not giving Data thanks at that time, since it's his job. But the boy's remembering of the identical procedure is basically what saved them all. Coulda said thanks.

[@wetlazer]

I was just imagining the actors rehearsing this scene and Patrick Stewart asking "Shouldn't Picard say Nice work son, or Thank you, or something?" and the producer or head writer or someone saying "Oh no Picard is an asshole. He doesn't even want any kids around." I am imagining this was the early version of Picard, where he was much less personable and he was shown as disliking any children. Perhaps this was the early dickish version of Picard.

[@UMCorian]

I love this series. It's got drama, suspense, tension and conflict in virtually every episode... and yet, it doesn't approach gritty realism or take a dark, fatalistic approach like modern entertainment. Each conflict, no matter the stakes, is a problem - a riddle. The way the crew handles each problem, working it top, bottom, backwards, sideways... until they figure out what to do is just so damn satisfying. In a year where so much is out of our control - from pandemics to politics - I've found revisiting this series has been really good for my mental health.

[@ReljaTrajkovic]

I always loved the level of respect and trust this crew had for one another. Any other show and they would be yelling at each other because writers love conflict. Conflict writes its self practically. But this,... this is gold. Data just stands up and says "Drop the shields". Sure, Riker mentioned it's suicide, but after Data repeats it, Picard trusts him his life, his ship and all of his crew. Because they are colleagues and friends. And he knows Data would not say that on a wild guess.

[@TsutomuTomutsu]

If they were experiencing a harmonic amplification of shield frequencies, why not simply recalibrate the field's positronic matrix to match the wavefront oscillations, thereby creating a metaphasic temporal rift that would isolate the ship from any gravimetric disruption?

[@MetFanMac]

Speak English, man! *canned audience laughter*

[@anonynomnomnom]

Shields don't have a positronic matrix, you nub. The only positronic matrix is the one coursing through Data's skull. Surely you meant the projection matrix. Furthermore, the shield harmonics matching the wavefront oscillations was precisely the problem they ran into! Read up on the collapse of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge if you would like to know more. As for creating a metaphasic temporal rift, I would remind you that tetryon fields form when a metaphasic projection matrix *collapses* and was intended to be investigated further by Jo'Bril for the purpose of developing an offensive weapon before Dr. Crusher smoked his ass.

[@jakep1979]

You are crazy man!! see you in the next star trek convention!!

[@peejay1954]

because the Johnson rod would elongate the muffler bearings and disrupt the steam ionizers, therefore causing extreme flatulence in the replicators. Plus, the Puerto Ricans on board still don't want to work, so you got to get the Mexicans to mow the lawn

[@MarginalSC]

You madman, the field didn't have an android brain.

[@HallyVee]

"Status, Ensign?" "Smokin' hot, sir."

[@tonygarratt5832]

At the last moment you dropped the shields, I'm going to need new pants... Sir.

[@theprof73]

Single, with a new lease on life

[@joelwillems4081]

Yeah, who was that actress? I guess she's another unnecessary red shirt.

[@steveroh777]

@@joelwillems4081 I had to look her up, she is glorious, Sheila Franklin memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Sheila_Franklin

[@erictaylor5462]

Actually Data didn't overrule the captain. He made a suggestion and the Captain followed that advise, because he trusted Data. It was the Captain, not Data, who ordered the shields be dropped.

[@damenwhelan3236]

Eric Taylor I find you everywhere!! And people are always saying cyberspace is so big. ..

[@erictaylor5462]

damen whelan Why comment on something like that. Are you trying to insult me or something?

[@DeathBringer769]

If you took that as an insult you got some pre-cooked shit rolling around in your head that you need to take care of... It wasn't insulting or meant to be insulting in the slightest. He's just saying he sees you around comments sections a lot, and it's surprising given how huge cyberspace is supposed to be... Don't take out whatever unrelated shit you have going on in your head on him or anyone else... that is, if you care about being a decent person. If you just want to be shitty, then go ahead, be shitty...

[@erictaylor5462]

Deathbrewer Now you seem to be the one with "uncooked shit rolling around" (Why would anyone cook shit anyway?) First, you can't know what other people are thinking, and second I did not take it as an insult. I asked if he was TRYING to insult me. You see, the question is phrased to imply that if he was trying to insult me he failed. This means I didn't take it that way. As to the huge size of cyberspace, it can be explained simply. KZbin suggests videos their computers think you might like. This means you are more likely to see the same videos of people with similar tastes, so you are more likely to see the same people more often.

[@damenwhelan3236]

Eric Taylor I wasn't trying to at all insult you. I was making the observation that iboften see you commenting on different topics that ibalso watch.

[@richardparnell3770]

Data- "drop the shields" 3 seconds later Data drops the mic

[@germanher7528]

BAAAAAAAAAASSSSSS

[@Dowlphin]

Data: _Drop the shields._ | Picard: _Do it._ | (Worf drops the shields. ... The energy wave gets even stronger.) | Picard: _Data?!_ | Data: _Yes, Sir?_ | Picard: _Daaataaaaaa???!!!_ | Data: _Yeeees, Siiiiiiir?_

[@fjccommish]

"Drop the shields!" Picard: "You have saved us!" "It is I, Lore." Picard: "Shit!" Kaboom!

[@carminemurray6624]

And a child shall save them all.... 😀

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@carminemurray6624 turns out, he’s an android too!

[@raven4k998]

@@carminemurray6624 Drop the Shields not what you expect to hear when the ships about to be ripped apart🤣🤣

[@oatmealboy6]

It is fitting that the boy was using his "android personality" in this episode to emotionally distance himself from the trauma he experienced, and yet it is the very android quality of complete recall that saves the Enterprise.

[@linyenchin6773]

Lets all become Cyborgs, closest thing we got...

[@dropjawbertone]

I love how Data grabs Timothy's arm to hold him when the ship shakes. Great little subtle piece of acting there with a lot of depth.

[@carminemurray6624]

Data did The Mommy move.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Great episode. It had an emotional climax, Timothy's 'confession', AND then an action climax. Should have won an Emmy.

[@ee9269]

"You're a clever man in any time" -Picard to data, "All good things"

[@jameswasil]

"Sir, did you just assume my gender, chipset, and age of manufacture?" -SJW corruption of Data

[@2bituser569]

jameswasil No, its in your service record.

[@hobbs1701a]

Anyone else miss the days when Star Trek was not only great, but the crew ACTUALLY worked together, trusted each other?

[@SamSullyV]

Yes. Now it's about loud explosions and yelling

[@NickChira]

Bad writers need incompetents to create drama

[@sillygoose635]

@@SamSullyV it was always about loud explosions and yelling

[@sillygoose635]

aka an easy way for plot convenience

[@tulinfirenze1990]

How can I miss them? TV is full of new Trek with exactly those qualities!!!

[@ExVeritateLibertas]

Picard's so used to Data saving the ship at this point he doesn't even bother with a thank you.

[@Dowlphin]

In Soviet Starfleet, data saves YOU.

[@johnradford7999]

DATA IS THE BOY .....

[@Justforvisit]

@@Dowlphin In this case, Datas data indeed saved everyone

[@K7DFA]

Well it's not like he [Data], didn't save his own a~~ as well!!!! 😁😁😁😁

[@deusexaethera]

In the time it took Riker to complain and Picard to exchange looks with Data, Data could've said "The strength of the wavefront is a direct response to the output of our shield generators. Drop the shields!"

[@abooga8]

Underrated comment.

[@amanofmanyparts9120]

It's like comedy: It's all a matter of ... ... timing!

[@judgedbytime]

No, because someone would just keep arguing.

[@seanmurphy9632]

It would take time to parse and digest that, then decide on your own that yes, it's the right course of action. The whole point of the scene is the trust that the crew has in each other, and how well they work together. There was no time for your extended explanation. Picard didn't need it anyway. Data does the analysis. Goes immediately to Picard, not Worf, and tells him to lower the shields. Picard gives the order. Worf follows them.

[@techracer2003]

For something like this, Picard should have promoted Data and given that kid a jar of candy or an ice cream cone at least in appreciation

[@2bituser569]

What’s an ice cream cone 🍦 mean when Q can literally order 10 fudge sundaes in ten forward and the idiot servers actually fill the order.

[@generalcodsworth4417]

Why give the kid a jar of candy when he has access to an extensive library of every dessert he could think of in the replicators present in every part of the ship? to hell with dumb earth candies, I want some alien mousse

[@Amargosa2006]

“You can come to Captain Picard day next year, kiddo”

[@oldtwinsna8347]

There was no room on the ship for a promotion due to that pompous complacent first officer who chose to sit there and deprive everyone below him from moving up. Data would've had to change to a different assignment off the vessel and he lacked ambition by his very programmed nature to do that.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

What i love about star trek and stargate is that this perfectly shows the difference between skill and luck in the equation of outcome. You see the skill of the crew in these situations and they have to think and act quickly and it requires flexibility.

[@ryutenmen]

I find it funny the fact that, after Data saved the ship, Picard and Riker didn't give Data and his boy any thanks, of any kind, just turn their back :))

[@VulpisFoxfire]

Andrei Vlad Well, he was just doing his job, after all. :-)

[@ryutenmen]

So if a cop did save your life while doing is job, you don't give him any thanks? Why the reason "he is doing his job" exclude the attitude of be thankful? By offering thanks to someone who did something valuable for you (for example - save your life) its a very appropriate attitude, by showing your gratitude.

[@samsonguy10k]

Andrei Vlad It is a welcome response, but not necessary.

[@ryutenmen]

Necessity is relative, so...what's necessary here on KZbin? The comment section is really only for necessary comments?

[@ssjwes]

Andrei Vlad You want to talk about whats relative huh? Ok here it goes. Datas an android and doesn't give a f*&^ about thanks. Whats "relative" to him might not be whats "relative" to you...

[@davidd6383]

We have heard him say "Well done, Commander" on a few occasions... I agree that this should have been one of them.Love this show

[@UncleLance67]

Data: "Captain, drop the shields." Picard: "Make it so." *energy disipates* Data: "Ah. Smug Mode."

[@mmmc5122]

😆😆😆 Would really care if he looked smug if you were there and seconds from dead and he saved your life?

[@backtoearth1983]

Data was fine even if the ship exploded, he believed in Silicone Heaven

[@johnwolf2349]

@@backtoearth1983 Well of course, where else would all the calculators go?

[@MorganThorgan]

This is Star Trek not Red Dwarf ;)

[@NewMusicWeekly]

Kid also has his smug mode moment at 1:43.

[@CColtManM]

I love that the Captain has the final word, and Worf doesn't even hesitate following his orders.

[@rohnkd4hct260]

that's a well trained crew and one that trust each other.

[@LoganSewell83]

Klingons know authority when they hear it. The best moment to illustrate this is when Commander Riker took over a Bird of Prey and returned her to her actual captain.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Or the episode when they did some officer exchange and he got XO on a BoP, he drastically showed that his subordinates have to follow his orders (By sing a console with a klingon forehead) the same way he has to follow the captains.

[@JakkFrost1]

Oh, no, Worf hesitated, but only for a split second.

[@wrlord]

@@rohnkd4hct260 Trust? Balls. It's called "duty."

[@zzzombie888]

Little moments like this are what made this show gold

[@wisenheimer9997]

The two greatest moments in my movie life... Jenny and Forrest at the reflecting pool at the Washington Memorial and Mr. Data finding Spot in the wreckage of the Enterprise in Generations... I'm tearing up just typing this...

[@KandiKlover]

That kid imitating Data and his head movements was hilarious.

[@CharlesUrban]

That was actually really good acting on the kid's part. He was in full "Role Model" mode, trying to be the guy that his character idolized.

[@amipadme3985]

That was great, lol, especially Data realizing how distracting it can be. I wonder if it was a joke with the cast/crew. It would have been funny if Spiner had made the acting choice of Data reducing his head movements from this episode on. 😂

[@Elthenar]

The look on Worf's face when Picard tells him to drop shields.

[@birddemon1820]

"fuck it, I'm gonna die anyway"

[@2bituser569]

Bird Demon Stovokor here I come!

[@martinmeeser8312]

The more you force a child into some direction, the more destructive will be its defense. I always loved that duality. There is no show today that can provide such high quality content. This episode in particular is among my favorites.

[@GlamorousTitanic21]

These scenes are why TNG is one of the best tv shows ever produced!

[@unusualbydefault]

is it just me or is the sound design of the weakened wave, passing over the ship, just amazing?

[@FractalNinja]

Fwoosh

[@MrJeffrey316]

This show was so well written.....and acted. I really miss it.

[@gspendlove]

A little bit of trivia: Joshua Harris (Timothy) played Christopher Ewing on "Dallas" in its original run. He also played in episodes of "Falcon Crest," "Quantum Leap," and the '85 revival of "The Twilight Zone." Gene Roddenberry died while the cast and crew were filming this episode.

[@Foebane72]

gspendlove GR died, whoop-de-doo! Big fucking deal! That man was POISON to Star Trek! Notice how much infinitely better it got once he snuffed it?

[@gspendlove]

Foebane72 Now, now. Let's not get rude. I know that the Great Bird wasn't exactly what you'd call the most moral man. And I also know that some of his ideas for where the franchise should go were terrible (particularly his idea that the _Enterprise_ crew should get involved in the Kennedy assassination, with Spock pulling the trigger). It's a _good_ thing that his story ideas were overruled, and that others were allowed to give direction to the franchise (the main ones who saved it were Harve Bennett, Nick Meyer and Leonard Nimoy). But the man is owed a modicum of respect, if for no other reason than there would be no _Star Trek_, good or bad, if it weren't for him. Sorry if you don't feel the same way.

[@Foebane72]

gspendlove Not all show creators should also be their show runners, too.

[@gspendlove]

Foebane72 Let's not beat up on a strawman, either.

[@Foebane72]

***** Are you talking to me? Are you suggesting that Roddenberry made Trek the best? Don't make me fucking laugh.

[@kineda007]

Mr. Data, you're a clever man, in any ST TNG youtube post!

[@possiblynova]

I love how Picard trusts Data so much with Data's stern voice and serious look

[@thegentlemansretreat9742]

Thanks for the life saver Data... said no one ever!

[@Sheehan1]

Like putting too much air in a balloon!

[@DouglasZwick]

+Richard Sheehan "Like a balloon, and... something bad happens!"

[@mdcraig62]

You soured the milk!

[@aaronboothproduction]

Yessss. This is my favorite joke from Futurama xD

[@Tigerman1138]

Futurama FTW

[@ShroudedDay]

LMAO!

[@Windbadger]

I love how Patrick and Jonathan turned around and sat down together in perfect sync to reflect how in-sync their characters are. Genius. I can't even manage that with my own shadow. 🤔

[@badgerbandit9070]

"Status Ensign" "Shit my pants... requesting to go to medical, sir."

[@KMEnterprise]

😂😂😂

[@TheRaven5005]

Data, pure awesomeness! Picard momentarily hesitates Data's unexplained sudden command, and after a brief deadly serious staring contest, Picard relents.

[@DothFrmBBL]

Spihk heartbust!? Spihk heartbust mates internet friends for all time mechanics for Bozeman Hotmail Recipient's Garelick Farm Server mate!

[@Aluze]

I like how these clips are long enough to give context, not a snippet out of place

[@DrewLSsix]

Interciewer: was there ever a time when you lost faith in Data? Retired admiral Picard: pause, looks off into the distance, thinks of this moment.... no, never.

[@georgelionon9050]

"Actually there was a time, in First Contact, for 2.7 nanoseconds. For having faith in Data this is an eternity."

[@JnEricsonx]

:::cries yet again:::

[@Foebane72]

This is one of my favourite TNG episodes because the lone child survivor of a starship (that did what the Enterprise was about to do here and was destroyed) prevented it from happening to the Enterprise itself - I don't think Data would've found a correlation in time without the boy's knowledge.

[@jimbob172]

Give Data a medal for that. Saved the entire ship and crew with his quick thinking in the face of imminent destruction

[@MageBladeJ]

Thanks to Bryce, I just realized this episode released 4 months before I was born. Even more so, I love a television series before my very inception

[@UTubeTulip]

No "Thanks Tim, thanks Data" lol.

[@Nemephosis]

Data with his speed at input and output is what saved the Enterprise crew. No one else would have been able to run that analysis in time and any other crew gets shredded. This is uniquely a Data thing, and a big point in his character.

[@howlbigbadwolf]

"That's suicide Data!", I love how Riker says that!

[@briangalloway4193]

A 'thank you Data for saving our lives, again' would have been a nice gesture.

[@greencello599]

The shields were like an amplifier for the waves. Real life example, sound waves, like all energy waves, travel better through solid objects than through the air. The air actually allows the energy to dissipate while solid mass concentrates that energy into something stronger. The ship's shields concentrated the wave energy into the ship. By allowing the energy to pass over the ship with shields down, the Enterprise experienced a gentle rocking instead of a concentrated blast.

[@forward876]

When a thing is well done, it becomes a permanent fixture. I just love Star Trek

[@spockofdune8657]

I absolutely loved that episode

[@ReelMeurik]

0:37 "Contact in 31 seconds..." 1:08 Ship makes contact with the energy wave... A rare instance, where the dialogue actually matches the duration mentioned.

[@PeterJStauffer]

It's scenes like this that made this a great show

[@bored_potato]

0:05 When Data held Tim's arm to keep him from falling

[@gbgentleman]

I remember watching every one of these episodes when they were originally shown. One of the best SCIFI shows ever.

[@edwardyang8254]

To the description of this video: Data didn't overrule the Captain. It's the Captain who adopted Data's suggestion.

[@tylerdobdob23]

"Now get this fucking child OFF MY BRIDGE!"

[@JosephAROgren]

They should have had a "Who ARE you??" at 1:12, when Picard and Riker stands up and looks at Data in complete bewilderment

[@McFlingleson]

I don't remember the context of this particular scene, but I always liked how much the characters trust each other to make the right call. Picard trusts that Data knows what he's doing when he says to drop the shields, and then Worf trusts that Picard is right to trust Data and there's no time for anyone to try to explain.

[@blogginsriverbymnl48isabop86]

What Picard is thinking: "I'll deal with the fkin android later".

[@hackman669]

The boy is thinking where to find an android girlfriend!!!!

[@kilroy987]

"Mr. Data, do you mind telling me what you were fkin doing?"

[@Cjnw]

Fucking

[@Traderjoe]

That ensign was gorgeous

[@ens0246]

Man, Data is so intelligent and fast that he can take weapons and defense sub-subsystems at 0:33 then the helm at 0:36 .

[@RP-gi4ch]

I never noticed. Good eye!

[@oinari12345]

when Data says stuff you do it.

[@cat48155]

but what if its lore pretending to be data?

[@ivodozi]

Actually, there was one time. In the episode where the enterprise gets caught in the temporal loop, it was data's suggestion of using the tractor beam that got them caught in the loop in the first place. Now, data does realize the error later, and corrects it, but it was Riker's suggestion that was correct. Data isn't always right.

[@basedbear1605]

@@ivodozi Wrong. They needed that time loop to fill in that episode.

[@piotrd.4850]

Probalby one of most underrated episodes of TNG, with B-story arc more important than primary one.

[@centralscrutinizer6108]

I always loved how Data could run the computer so fast it about couldn't keep up with him. Always pulling through in the clutch because he could "think" things out so fast everyone else was 1000 steps behind him and kinda going HUH when he says to do something. And you better damn well do what he says, except that time they got stuck in a time loop and it was Riker who had the right idea.

[@notallthatbad]

1:48 - I like how Picard and Riker just sit down simultaneously.

[@kinbolluck476]

I think Patrick Stewart is laughing

[@SamLee-ur7xl]

Picard made that dream team, encouraging, rebuking, correcting, parenting, counseling, teaching, disciplining and forgiving. He made it so with a great crew of the USS Enterprise D.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

When you get "that look" from Data, you do what he recommends.

[@2bituser569]

Data was great at expressing a really good approximation of emotion. Like when he was in command of the Southerland and he ordered Hobbs to fire. If Hobbs had not followed orders Data looked like he was going to throw him out of an airlock.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@2bituser569 His interaction with Worf in "Gambit part 2", where he confronts him for his openly doubting Data's decisions, is also a good example. (I love how Data pulls his tunic down at the end, subtly). Here's that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH6upX6Ej9xneNE

[@2bituser569]

JustWasted3HoursHere I just believe Data’s line about his time and service record doesn’t warrant a captaincy when the boy ask him why he isn’t captain yet is bs. He knows how to command. He should have been an xo. One of the great things Jellico did he showed no prejudice toward Data and promoting him immediately.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@2bituser569 I can get on board with that statement. Although Captain Jellico rubbed people the wrong way, he was consistent and fair and was the right person to lead in the absence of Picard. That being said, his exchange with Riker, where he confronts him "off the record", is excellent and Riker's comments were right on the money.

[@2bituser569]

JustWasted3HoursHere Only slight I can givr Jellico is he could have done a General shipwide speech on how goals and priorities have changed and he is focused on the safety of the crew in the upcoming mission. I think relying solely on Deanna to smooth things over wasn’t the best he could do. The incident with taking A chunk of Geordi’s crew after giving him an order that even Data said would take 100% of his staff working 48 hrs straight. During a battle Jellico wouldn’t want a tired engineering crew who are essential to keeping the ship together.