Star Trek: TNG Review - 6x19 Lessons | Reverse Angle

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

Fun fact: Picard's flute was just a prop stick with painted holes. It can't play music

[@neonnews-newlondoncounty2617]

And somebody paid big bucks for it at the Paramount auction.

[@clearsmashdrop5829]

@@neonnews-newlondoncounty2617 Hahah. Yup. Would have fooled me. I thought it was real too.

[@neonnews-newlondoncounty2617]

@@clearsmashdrop5829 it was the case that sold me.

[@thunderbird0024]

It went for 10 grand.

[@WolfRamAndHart]

Estimated Retail was about $500...Picard's Flute went for $10,000....just need 2 bidders!

[@raterus]

You had me dying of laughter when you showed what it probably actually sounded like during their first duet.

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

I can’t believe you missed the fact those we’re clearly not Picards hands playing the flute in his quarters lol

[@Sideshownicful]

Which makes no sense, since according to another comment, the flute isn't even real. It's a stick with holes painted on. So why did they feel the need to have someone else play the stick?

[@metwono]

So the key presses were accurate.

[@brucehunter4523]

I like to think she was assigned to the Enterprise twenty years ago but this is the first time the main cast have ever seen her because she spent all that time crawling around the jeffries tubes trying to find the most acoustically perfect spot

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

She said she just got there to save the embarrassment of explaining that.

[@brucehunter4523]

@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Precisely!

[@ThePeacemaker848]

Enterprise was only built 6 years ago at the time of this episode.

[@kingdave31]

A "diminished D" was what Picard had after the Borg assimilated him.

[@woofy2000]

This episode had me crying at the end. Picard is such a sweetheart. Their relationship feels real and cute.

[@ondrejnovotny3273]

This is a beautiful character episode and you can really feel Picard's despair when Darren is on the planet, you can't get even a portion of this feeling from the new Trek, everything is bland and shallow. That's why I consider this episode as an A, it makes you feel with the character.

[@ThePeacemaker848]

....I think most of us are here because we don't watch the new stuff. lol All TNG episiodes would either be and A or A+ compared to the new trek. lol.

[@ondrejnovotny3273]

@@ThePeacemaker848 Strange New Worlds are not bad, fairly average but not bad.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

6:22 I lost it at the loud tapping sound. I realize I'm pissing in the wind here, but, speaking of the writers' total lack of musical knowledge, what are the odds that a flute produced by a civilization that died millennia ago would play in twelve-tone equal temperament? And then on top of that, be tuned to a standard Western pitch of A440, which was established in the 1920s? Current day Earth has more variation than this. I wonder what the interaction is like with the session musicians who provide the performances. Do the writers say stuff like, "We need the flute stuff or something here" with no further direction?

[@reverseangle]

Those are all excellent points. -Nick

[@eleftheriosgkioulekas1001]

You can of course line up the piano to play with the flute's tuning. 12 ton system results in very nice ratiomal ratios in the pythagorean scale. Divisible by 2,3,4,6. Nice number.

[@zbetz]

I just discovered you guys and I love your style. Straight forward, dive right in, a handful of enjoyable edits and consistently good back and forth. A really refreshing nice break from cliche KZbinrs. Subscribed.

[@HypherNet]

Couldn't agree more -- one of KZbin's little hidden gems, I would watch them watch every TNG-era episode. Those were the days. I still remember fondly my Enterprise-D, Voyager, and DS9 toy models.

[@danielgill797]

The jefferies tube seen did actually make me cry. I think this is one of the lovelies and sad episodes. It shows how someone is affected by love no matter who they are.

[@davidaames1624]

Me too. I was moved by the music that they were playing.

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

Picard remained a bachelor his entire life even after he retired an admiral in Star Trek Picard.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

I mean, depends which timelines you consider ... 'All Good Things': Picard and Beverly were married/divorced.

[@Tim85-y2q]

Previous episodes establish that while the Enterprise does run on continuous 24-hour shifts, the night shift is pretty much a placeholder for maintaining vital systems and there to alert the main crew of emergencies.

[@TheMoneypresident]

The flute didn't work in real life.

[@thegrayshaws]

I've been binge watching every episode and now I have to wait for you guys to make more so get cracking! ;)

[@jasonhall7491]

The ‘real audio’ of the flute with the piano was epic!

[@mikemcaulay9507]

I actually had fond memories of this episode. For some reason I’ve always enjoyed the episodes and movies that had some plot line with romantic overtones for Picard. I feel like he feels more lively in those moments. I know it’s a bit of a trope, but I also enjoy it tends to include Picard learning something from them. Anyway, you guys are brutal. :D

[@ThePeacemaker848]

I agree, they always do a decent job with Picard romance episodes.

[@maltoNitho]

S. T. F. D. Y’all have almost 160 episodes and I’m JUST NOW getting a recommendation?! 🤯 Thumbs down on KZbin for not recommending you sooner! I can’t wait to binge everything a few times.

[@jadegecko]

The baryon sweep callback cracked me up

[@ThePeacemaker848]

3:26 I gotta disagree entirely here. 1) we have seen that Picard has an deep interest in music. Innerlight he learned the Flute, then we had that cowboy holodeck intro where Picard keeps getting interupted while trying to play. 2) I'm a musician, and when you get good enough and really study a piece of music, you can tell when someone plays a different note. Given the format of a TV show and how they quickly show character development, It's perfectly fine to assume that Picard has been advancing his musical skills and has studied the piece that the lady was playing. 5:49 Actually my sister in law has one of these and it is not a toy. They do play the actual piano notes. Currently the technology for these pianos is only good for practicing on. But with more miniaturization I'm sure in the future they could make one that you can perform on. ....but the prop in the show is a bit laughable. lol, gotta use some 'imagination' on this one. 6:22 LOL!! 7:46 Lol!! I always enjoyed this episode.

[@psuley1977]

That Picard Maneuver line nearly made me choke on my lunch. Five stars

[@bradivany7008]

F minor 7 = F Ab C Eb D diminished = F Ab B D (D half dimished is even closer with C instead of B) So they're pretty similar. I don't know the actual music their talking about, maybe I'll rewatch the episode. It's not outlandish to alter things like that as a matter of style, though rare. So listeners familiar with the music get little easter eggs every now and again. The variety in performance, interpretation and expression of pieces is one of my favorite parts about classical music. And your version of the piece was far superior, I am certain. Bravo!

[@sneakyking]

Writers: we know how music works, trust us.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Flap hands semi-randomly => beautiful music happens.

[@jeffeffa78]

Thx guys. Look forward to this every week.

[@TalkernateHistory]

2:34 I'm mesmerized by that teapot

[@memoryhero]

i can't believe you included the difference (in the credits) between the diminished chord and the minor chord mentioned in the ep that you complained about. XD

[@KokiriLegend]

I feel like Darren had ‘somewhat’ Beverly hair too. Another negative but I feel like this should have happened over more than one episode for a love interest.

[@cmajors999]

It was a beautiful, but weak episode. The cinematography was very different, almost with fisheye lenses being used a lot. RIP to Wendy Hughes (gone well before her time) and RIP to Director Robert Weimer (who always tried his best w/ every ep he directed, for better and worse).

[@briandiltsmusic]

Yes. I was hoping for a shred in this video!! That was perfect.

[@jasonmccammon3608]

I woulda given this episode an A.

[@ErikWoodsCinSoundRadio]

6:19 absolutely ruined me! I'm dying here! 🤣

[@HopeAndrea_HFG]

Same!🤣🤣🤣

[@mr.a8315]

2:13 I think working on practical jokes would have more use than that data. Great review. ♥

[@danielgill797]

This is one of my favourite episodes! They fall in love! Actually makes me cry! But then Darren dies and Picard feels guilty.

[@chriscolabella880]

If the tonal centre is Eb, then substituting a diminished D for an F minor is perfectly legitimate and would be a clearly audible and interesting choice that would change the harmony in a trio. It creates a more romantic and less dissonant feel before resolving to the tonic. One could even argue that this is an entirely appropriate musical choice for Daren given both her character and her style of playing.

[@MashupsByMandy]

Damn, I've been creating black holes for years.

[@philipjay2099]

You are both very welcome. For my watching. Do DS9 next please,

[@bazingamycheeks]

5:23 Lt. Cmdr. Darren states that she was previously stationed on a starbase...I'm not exactly sure if a starbase qualifies for the kinds of subject matters of alternate cultures that a starship would have...

[@cheradenine1980]

2:20 LEG ALERT!

[@Lunaril]

She came from a starbase, where her experience is based on a traditional terran model of time of day. She would have to adjust to ship time. The baron sweep would be like a fog of baron passing harmlessly, and picking up radiation fragments in the background that had been building up due to starship travel. It would pass and the particle would get carried away, leaving no trace behind, due to the filtration systems onboard ship. Ship duty rosters, include junior officers who fulfill administrative or department functions. Typically you would run everything up the chain, not walk up to your CO or XO and interact like that; However, in Naval tradition, it is common for Fleet or Flag officers would have junior assistants and such. It's possible that as her role, in which case she would update the XO.

[@xvindix]

I think this was the fist time we saw the jacket over the uniform for Picard. I kind of like it, but why though?.. Was he cold? Why is his base uniform gray? I love your reviews and videos.... thanks!

[@TheMoneypresident]

There is a guy with red hair that did every uniform change including movies.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Picard gets a girlfriend: How romantic.

[@bad-people6510]

I don't remember this episode at all. Which is super bizarre because I've seen this entire series about ten times.

[@Mehwhatevr]

haha! I wouldn't have noticed the extra keys. but 😂looks like they added a half step between each note (did I say that correctly?)

[@mikeluit3027]

Picard's response to the Prime Directive? "Damn the Prime Directive, I haven't been laid in three seasons!" Lol, all kidding aside good review. C+/B- grades seem fair. It was a good character development episode, however, I also agree with the awkwardness at the beginning.

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

this was one fo the funier reviews, and there have been plenty of funny episodes.

[@AliceBowie]

I'm sure you can just ask the Computer where the acoustically most perfect area of the ship is. Are you guys going to keep doing the Buffy the vampire slayer videos? I've never seen the show, and never will, but watching your recap/ commentary videos are great.

[@reverseangle]

We are working on it now.

[@xx3868]

Looking closely at the celloist, her hands and speed were correct; she could play!, i wonder if she was borrowed from the TNG show Orchestra which does all the music for the show?

[@DeltaAssaultGaming]

I was always a Picard Crusher shipper, so this episode blew.

[@flowertrue]

OMG yes. 🤜🤛

[@Fidi987]

What I find impressive: those actors - the cello player and Spiner - can easily imitate vibrato, but (Spiner) not keep their bow straight. I find vibrato extremely hard to practice, especially "dry" (without bowing). Bowing in the correct spots seems much easier to me. And those actors can't bow straight, but can pull off maybe not a completely realistically looking vibrato, but at least continuous arm shaking while play-acting?

[@JoeKawano]

I think you might be right that nobody should expect to have heard of all the flutes in the known galaxy, even if you are an amateur musician. But the comment about it being insufferable to expect herself to know every planet, is not warranted, as she is, on the Federation’s flagship, the department head of *stellar cartography,* which literally means mapping the universe (stars). That’s her job-one that she’s very passionate about, and has such a demonstrated competence in, that the Federation’s flagship will-as you have noted-shut down (systems on) the entire ship for her. I think it’s well within her purview -as it is exactly her purview- to know about all the charted planets in the known universe. In fact she’s probably the only person on the ship who can expect herself to do this.😅

[@HouseZebra]

Your commentary together is so good

[@HouseZebra]

I was hoping you could do other sci-fi like SG 1

[@MarsM13]

Amazing, subtle acting on Stewart's part. Makes the modern stuff look like Saturday morning cartoon acting.

[@kilmcm45]

That instrument was from a dead society...so I think they were commenting on the fact? Also there has been media in Trek that shows there sort of a Galactic Standard Orchestra....with instruments from many different.

[@ShamrockParticle]

6:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🏆 ❤️ So many good laughs in this one, but that was one of a handful that stuck out even more than usual. Always enjoying your style. Thank you much!!

[@misterlau5246]

If you know the song very well and of course you are a musician, those two chords are different enough to notice.

[@xx3868]

I like this episode for the music and that one off scene inside the ships crawl ways sending sound echoing all through the ship. I thought they got Aussie Wendy Hughes because she could play Piano but apparently she cant?? so all her scenes were dubbed and she has shorter fatter fingers than the close ups of a pro playing which is bit obvious. Picard able to hear any inversions or diff notes played would require a very tuned and experienced ear and he says hes only amateur yet he can improvise a solo around the chords and keep the melody well and she says he much better than he thinks! Other Picard "love" episodes, but this one is way more personal and intense and certainly when he has to order her to stay with a raging plasma fire coming straight at them shows the terrible decisions he has to make and imagine if he was married to her for 20 years and had to order her to stay down on the planet mins from death or harm.. A and B plots are usually bit hit and miss but the two directly relate and come to a head with possible lethal consequences to not just a fellow office but someone he deeply cares for even if just a short time.

[@Starch-Wreck]

6:16 I’m ashamed you guys didn’t mention Picards fake hands. THOSE AREN’T HIS HANDS playing the flute. Picard is blowing but the other actor is sitting in his lap. The shoulders don’t match up with the arms. It’s weird AF.

[@saturn580]

Picard says Starfleet have no regulations against captains dating their subordinates, then says "relationships with co-workers can be fraught with consequences". Another home-run for Starfleet regulations! These people aren't running an ice-cream stand. They're in charge of the Federation's most valuable scientific and military asset! 🤣

[@jhonbus]

I find it disturbing that Commander Darren would rather F minors than diminish the D.

[@obsidianwing]

Like one of my most loved Episodes

[@jojo-gy9pp]

there is no D in an F minor chord.

[@coloradobrad6779]

6:19. Omg 😂.

[@xx3868]

We already have that roll up keyboard from the 80's or 90's? BUT thanks to this channel, you show close up of the "prop" one that has extra keys between the sharps?? like there gaps between the numbers on the periodic table too?? Why did they make it with wrong white keys?? and the poor pro musician girls hands had to play on this thing for the close ups!! Also 3 octaves isnt enough for bass and enough treble so? hmm still one of my fav stories, bit more bottle show with small planet set. funny even with the old series and TNG and others, ship board shows are cheap but end up usually the best stories?

[@Shadowmaster82311]

Band dorks talking about Star Trek. Hiliarious!

[@vernedavis]

middle-aged stone cold fox ,representation

[@only4him330]

You guys are a hidden treasure 💯💯💪🏾

[@therealhardrock]

6:19 LOL I.T.W.P.I.

[@greyinvader]

If you guys think classic Trek is this stupid, just wait until you see the new crap they're spewing out these days.

[@randomsleepyness]

What does F Ab D -> F Ab C mean!!!?

[@TheInfamousBob314]

You know you've made it as a review channel when recording and dubbing in foley effects is part of your repertoire.

[@shawnfisher7434]

I really did not like this episode, for many of the reasons you mentioned. She's playing the part too stiff to be a love interest for Picard and the whole relationship is rushed. If you want to pay-off a romance plot like this, you stretch it out as a B or C plot over several episodes and find a more organic way to put her in danger. She's becomes super important to him in a short span, then they break up and she's never seen again, so what is learned from this episode? That Picard shouldn't date subordinates? Didn't we already know that, like what is this episode even? Another episode without a B plot to break up the monotony and the A plot is terrible. At least Stewart got another romance angle, which he always craved for his character. D+

[@Doomclown]

It was the early 90s, dating subordinates was still cool.

[@Greatermaxim]

Magnus Carlsen and I are alpha nerds. We look at things optimistically. Nick and Robert are omega. Realistic to the point of cynicism. They are spot on at times yet should keep in mind many kids and others do not have our nerdy grasp of things.

[@flowertrue]

One of my least favorite episodes, much as I was glad to see him get with a woman who was not Vash. This woman was awkward and wooden. The kiss they shared in the Jeffries Tube (sounds like a futuristic Harlequin Romance) was like two high schoolers, who don't like each other, kissing in a school play.

[@williamteskey528]

And b, no😆

[@hithere8753]

She was way better than crusher

[@flashtu]

You will never See moments like this in actual star Trek. Thats one of many reasons why modern Trek suxxs.

[@maxiemaxwell550]

All this fratboy giggling is really irksome.

[@chriscolabella880]

You guys really don't know as much about music as you think you do

[@charlesvan13]

Finally, Star Trek reviewers who know that Star Trek sucks.

[@danielroberts6212]

In retrospect next generation was lousy. As was deep space 9 , voyager and enterprise.

[@ThePeacemaker848]

I can't help but compare everything to shows like BattleStar Galactica where they tossed out the 'episodic' format for a continuous story with character development. Nothing holds up to it. Voyager was the worst offender since it's premise just screamed for continuous story instead of episodic.

[@canalesworks1247]

(Sigh) Music is both science and rhetoric. I can't tell you how many musically untalented scientists I've witnessed fail ear training exams, really easy ones. Darren's hand positions would indeed cause pain in the wrists and arms. The keyboard is pretty awful but, as often happens with Star Trek, there is now a real 88 key "roll it out" keyboard. No pedal access that i know of unless you can hook a sustain pedal up to it, but hey, if you need to practice Bach 2 part inventions it could be pretty effective. I actually like the arrangement of the folk tune they did. Frere Jaques was pretty nice too. She's supposed to be a concert pianist, and he is supposed to be an amateur with no experience playing chamber music, so given those facts she isn't all that condescending. She's surprised by how moving his playing is once he drops Brandeburg 3, which is supposed to be a strings and harpsichord only piece. Brandenburg 4 actually calls for recorders, and would have been a better choice. Branenburg 5 (a work I've conducted a number of times) calls for transverse flute and would have been the best choice. Recorder doubling the theme an octave higher sounds dreadful, perhaps on purpose. I'm a professional classical composer and musician. These little musical things that seem to annoy you guys don't really bother me. Quite frankly your pompous, snarky little laughs and snotty comments bother me a lot more. It just goes to show you that clit bait on big topics really does drive views. I'm done with yours after this one.