Star Trek TOS: SPACE SEED Reaction (Events Prior to Wrath of Khan)

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Please no spoilers! So that I can provide my best and most honest reaction, please do not mention the names of any future characters, events, or episode titles (this goes for future series as well). Please do not say which upcoming episodes are good or bad, otherwise I will have trouble forming my own opinion! Thank you, and enjoy!

[@ScottFunk-us6ro]

Hey! Did you know that the actress who played Uhura (Nichelle Nichols) said that she preferred the short skirts uniforms over ANY of the others she'd worn over the years, because they are so comfortable? (also, it allowed her to show off her dancer's legs, I note)

[@johnnygood4831]

What you don't understand because you are not like that is, look around America, women are attracted to the bad boys and get controlled by them.

[@stvbrsn]

I chuckled when you said “he makes me so uncomfortable.” It’s a testament to his acting chops. In reality, Ricardo Montalban was one of the kindest, sweetest and most humorous men you could ever hope to meet.

[@DonMeaker]

Ricardo Montoban was wonderful in this. Kahn the character was also supremely manipulative.

[@DonMeaker]

Ricardo went on to play Mr Roarke in Fantasy Island.

[@stewmott3763]

This looks like my cue to dig up Ricardo Montalbán's self-mocking joke explaining the five stages of an actor's career (best read aloud in Señor Montalbán's own voice, of course): 1. Who is Ricardo Montalbán? 2. Get me Ricardo Montalbán! 3. Get me a Ricardo Montalbán type! 4. Get me a young Ricardo Montalbán! 5. Who is Ricardo Montalbán?

[@ITPalGame]

My dad stood in for him I think as I once saw a black & white photo of him with Ricardo in his Fantasy Island white suit and a blonde woman (don't know who she was). My dad was in the same white suit as Ricardo.

[@danielasuncion9991]

"Goes places where STAR WARS never goes." Brilliant observation.

[@rantandroll7583]

You have a woman to thank for ST even existing. Lucille Ball lobbied hard to get the show made and Desilu Studios (Norway Corp.) produced the show. I love Lucy.

[@brandonflorida1092]

She didn't have to lobby because it was her studio, but she did reject a call to halt production.

[@uatrekker]

Also You have to thank another woman - Dorothy Fontana

[@andromidius]

While true - its also true she apparently misunderstood what the show was about while pushing it. Luckily, she was accidentally on to a gold mine concept and we can still whole heartedly thank her for it.

[@trekkiejunk]

Lucy's involvement is a bit overstated. To say that there would be no Star Trek without Lucy is like saying there would be no rock and roll without Elvis. There were a lot of moving parts, and the NBC producers did want to air it after the second pilot. You could also say there would be no Trek without Roddenberry, which is 100% true, because he created it. But probably also William Shatner, and executives at NBC. It may not have happened exactly the way it did, but it most likely would have happened.

[@rantandroll7583]

@@trekkiejunk My source is the biography of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, Desilu. Perhaps her role was overstated--writers bias. I still love Lucy.

[@ebashford5334]

Spock is a Vulcan which is a race devoted to logic and reason. They can feel emotions, though they deliberately suppress them as a discipline and with the exception that they can become extremely emotional (and violent) for their mating period and ritual. Spock in particular is half human (brought up on the planet Vulcan) so he feels more emotion than he would ever admit to. His interactions with the emotional and fiery Doctor McCoy are amusing for that reason.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks 😊

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

That was a concise and accurate description of Vulcans. I'm impressed.

[@ianmckenzie2168]

Good answer, good answer....!

[@Blazingstoke]

Also, fun fact: Spock's human parent, Amanda Grayson, is a descendant of Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes.

[@RLucas3000]

@@bunnytailsREACTS No member of a crew would betray their mission just to save the life of a fellow office. That’s why no one agreed to join Khan to save Kirk’s life. Would you betray your world to a dangerous alien that could kill every man, woman and child, just to save the life of say your husband or best friend? I do highly recommend the series, but if you want some great episodes to watch, I recommend Charlie X, The Man Trap, The Naked Time, The Conscious of the King, The Squire of Gothos, Errand of Mercy, This Side of Paradise, City on the Edge of Forever, Amok Time, Journey to Babel, The Trouble With Tribbles, and Mirror, Mirror as a dozen episodes to try.

[@kaizen5023]

14:39 Can we just appreciate that stuntman's work by the guard crewman? He made Khan look legit like a superman the way he flipped from that hit!

[@powerbadpowerbad]

AGREED.That was a-GREAT-flip. Well done.

[@GodfatherJAM]

That was great.

[@tomsnedeker9443]

You are forgetting how badass of a strong female character Lt. Uhura was in this episode. She took a backhander from the genetically enhanced "Uberman", and still gave him a F*ck you attitude. What female characters in recent years have shown that kind of grit?

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Good point!

[@AzguardMike]

there's an episode when she meets Abraham Lincoln and he says something like "Oh what a find N word you are, dear" Then apologises "if it offends a woman of your darkness." Kirk replies somethign like "Its ok, we have thicker skin, words dont offend us anymore."

[@erikbihari3625]

@@AzguardMike. And this show was made in the 60's? Damn!

[@avengemybreath3084]

Today, any female character would easily beat Khan in a fight.

[@moonpawooe7134]

Loads

[@williamblakehall5566]

"This goes places where Star Wars doesn't go." EXACTLY! THANK YOU! Even for a Trek episode this had extra quirky behavior, from MacIvers in her instant vulnerability to Khan as well as Kirk deciding to go easy on Khan. I'm looking forward to Wrath. If you can squeeze in one more episode, I'd say that Star Trek, and in particular Wrath of Khan, borrowed a lot from suspenseful old movies about submarine combat, so on that score it may also help you to watch Balance of Terror.

[@paintedjaguar]

Well, or go watch the specific source material for the "Balance of Terror" episode, the 1957 movie "The Enemy Below" which is a pretty entertaining flick in its own right.

[@silkwesir1444]

@@paintedjaguar Sure but the point here was preparation for Wrath of Khan. It does borrow a lot from Balance of Power, instead of from "The Enemy Below" directly.

[@rockabye274]

TOS certainly contained some sexist portrayals of women, but the MacIvers character was very likely the most egregious example of such portrayals.

[@Idazmi7]

@@rockabye274 Meanwhile, finding women like her in _reality_ isn't hard.

[@laurogarza4953]

I believe it is very important for those who have polarized appreciations for either Star Trek or Star Wars, not both, to mention that George Lucas and his fellow producers of Star Wars were all big fans of Star Trek, the original series. In fact, Clint Howard, a child actor during the 1960s who starred in his own adventure series and who played the small in stature alien character, Balok, later auditioned for a role on Star Wars and was immediately recognized by George Lucas as "Commander Balok!" rather than the many other characters Howard had played.

[@mcbeezee2120]

The fact you caught on so early to the character's personalities and their interactions show, you will definitely enjoy the world of Star Trek. Keep 'em coming.

[@BenWillyums]

Uhura was not only hot but an inspiration to women of color; seems common now, but a black female officer as a featured part of a TV show was groundbreaking way backk in '66

[@powerbadpowerbad]

Indeed.When you did see black woman on tv shows or films,they were usually maids,slaves,mammies ( taking care of white people kids )prostitutes,etc,etc,..

[@jackstrawful]

Not to mention a Japanese officer well within living memory of people who lost friends and family to Japanese soldiers in WW2 and a Russian at a time when Americans were actively fighting Communists in Vietnam. Also, I see another reply to this comment, but it's glitching out, so i can't read it - I would guess that it tells how the Kirk/Uhura kiss was the first time a black person and white person were shown kissing on television, groundbreaking, to be sure, even though both characters were under a kind of alien mind control at the time.

[@miller-joel]

This was also only a few years after women gained the right to vote in the US. Yes, you are reading that correctly. 1920 was only 46 years earlier. That's in their own lifetime, not hundreds of years before. It's wild.

[@PungiFungi]

And she didn’t need to emasculate the male crew members or be surrounded by incompetent men in order to be shown as a competent officer.

[@macjack5978]

She also slept with the creator of the show

[@KingoftheJuice18]

"What's HER heartbeat?"...That really cracked me up. Well done. (Your instincts for interpreting the show are very sharp.)

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you :)

[@phillipray4380]

A possible point of interest: One of the things that helped increase Star Trek’s popularity at the time was the intense color schemes. Color TVs were just becoming mainstream but most shows weren’t as bold color-wise. Our family still had an old black and white Zenith, but my uncle had a color TV, and Wow! Star Trek was great to look at! (Honorable mention goes to The Flintstones.)

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Interesting!

[@Lethgar_Smith]

You've reminded me of the first time I ever saw a color TV. My older brother had been talking it up all morning. We were headed to our uncles home for a bar-b-q and they had a new color TV. I didnt know what a color TV was so I was imagining a TV with a colorful cabinet and I couldnt understand why my brother was so excited about that. So we get there and at some point my brother manages to get my attention and take me to the living room to show me the "color TV". I see it and finally I understand what it is and why he was excited. And what's on TV? Lost in Space in all it's full color glory. I was hooked.

[@DouggieDinosaur]

Uhura's blue drink, blue ring and red shirt looked cool together @11:24 I think the people who worked on the Adam West BATMAN series were thinking along the same lines.

[@dionysus2006]

@@bunnytailsREACTS They had to over do the colors because what you filmed on the set didn't alway come through on the old color sets. You had to really punch it up.

[@johnsavard7583]

I remember seeing during a fair an exhibition of color television sets, as color television was about to be introduced in Canada: the sets were showing the episode "Where No Man Has Gone Before" from the forthcoming Star Trek series!

[@SoulBlazer08]

It actually took me a long time before I knew where the nickname "Bones" came from. It's a shortened form of "Sawbones" which was common slang for a medical doctor in the Wild West. There's a lot of influence from the Wild West in Star Trek's creation and design -- Gene Roddenberry, the creator, pitched the show to NBC as 'Wagon Train to the Stars', in reference to a popular western that was running during this time period. The 50's and 60's were boom times for western and cowboy shows on TV. In the newer Star Trek movies they changed it some so that McCoy was divorced when he decided to enter Starfleet Academy, and upon first meeting Kirk comments "She left me with nothing but my bones."

[@trekkiejunk]

When i read the first line of your comment, i was sooooooo sure you were gonna say, "all i have left are my damn bones." 🤮

[@filthycasual8187]

McCoy being divorced was part of his backstory even back then, but it was never televised or put on film.

[@jasontoddman7265]

@@filthycasual8187 He also has an adult daughter named Joanna who was going to appear in an episode, but it was never made.

[@Eisen_Jaeger]

and DeForest played in a few westerns as well

[@cyberingcatgirls7069]

As the only reactor I've seen to actually watch this before the movie, you have earned an automatic sub from this fan. Thanks!

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you! It helped a lot with context 😁

[@cliveklg7739]

"The City on the Edge of Forever" is one of the best Trek and Sci-Fi episodes ever done. "Balance of Terror" is a fantastic trek episode too.

[@silvervibranium2832]

There are stories known to many trekkies. One famous one is how Nichelle Nichols almost left the show. She was frustrated that she didnt get alot to do on the show and was about to quit. But she went to the party. And a "trekkie" wanted to meet her. His name was Martin Luthor King. He convinced her it was important she stay on Star Trek. The people need to see a black woman in the future. Not a stereotype but just a professional who happened to be a black woman. That people seeing that each week would help change the world. And later on, Nichols would join NASA to help recruit and inspire people to become astronauts. And one of her recruits became the first black woman in Space.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

WOW!! That is an amazing story, thank you!!

[@r.lyster8280]

@@bunnytailsREACTS I met Nichelle once. She was a truly amazing person. After this show she was recruited by NASA to help recruit astronauts!

[@JohnSipe-jt7bm]

Too many people overlook Loyd Haynes as Mr Alden in Where No Man Has Gone Before-he was black. He went on to Room 222. 4:38

[@jasontoddman7265]

17:15 - You: Do they know something I don't know? Me: Possibly. Military protocol possibly for one. Any officer that actually did what you suggest in order to save Kirk's life would probably face a court-marshal afterward (just as Marla McGivers would have) and at best likely be discharged from Starfleet regardless of their motivations (assuming that Starfleet is run anything like the 20th/21st century US military), especially if they aided Khan at all afterward. The military has some very strict rules about things like that. 20:15 - Spock: It would be interesting to return in 100 years to see what crop... Oh... wait. Never mind.

[@SG-js2qn]

As for Uhura's uniform, that was the look on the street when this show was produced. Look at the music video for "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" by Nancy Sinatra, and you'll see the dancers are all wearing similar clothing. As for the 60s and earlier, movies and especially TV were like adaptations of stage plays, but with a camera.

[@JenABlue-ed1bw]

Since you ask, Spock is a Vulcan. They are actually much more emotional than humans naturally, to the point that they nearly wiped themselves out in violent conflicts early in their history. They learned to practice strict logic and emotional control in order to save themselves from extinction, and look down on overt emotionality as a danger and a weakness. (He's actually half Vulcan and half human, and the only Vulcan on the ship, so he's kind of trying to be the Vulciest Vulcan to ever Vulc, but I can't remember if that had been revealed yet at this point in the series. Definitely was before the movies, though.)

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks! Good to know

[@jlinkous05]

​@@bunnytailsREACTSYou're likely not going to watch the full spread of Star Trek, so I'll say one but more about Vulcans. Many of them get a sickness like dementia, but it's emotion. They all repress their feelings so much, and like previous poster said their emotions are much stronger than ours, that sometimes they leak through, and they can't handle it. It very well may be like the dementia that we know that causes a lapse in cognitive control, but for us it's a loss of memory and high-level functions and for them it's loss of control over emotion.

[@jlinkous05]

And it goes further. Vulcans can do Mind-Melding, it's very intimate, a psychic sort of brain-sharing. Folks affected by their dementia can spread their "disease" to others. Picard in TNG chose to meld with a very important Vulcan leader to try to relieve him of the curse. The leader recovered quite a bit, having absorbed human capacity to deal better with emotions, but Picard went into a crazy fit that he could never fully recover from, having experienced a sample of what the Vulcan was going through.

[@joeb918]

@@bunnytailsREACTS I think my comment just got taken out by KZbin, too many edits and it didn’t like me doing that… hopefully you still see it.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

@@joeb918 It got removed. I got a notification but I can't read it. When I click on it nothing happens.

[@Asher8328]

Spock's father is a Vulcan (the planet is also called Vulcan) and his mother is human. Vulcans have emotions, in fact they are even more emotional than humans. Centuries before Spock's time the Vulcans almost destroyed themselves through war, until a philosopher named Surak convinced them to adopt a way of life based solely upon logic rather than emotion. And so Vulcans use mediation and other mental techniques to completely repress any and all emotions.

[@Pandaemoni]

The short skirts and exposed legs were considered "empowered" in the 1960s. It was the sexual revolution in the counterculture, so it was pretty "leftwing" to suggest that that sexual liberation movement was going to take over culture (and somewhat precient). A little less precient to think that genetic engineering and deep space flight would be possible in the 1990s. Star Trek II, the movie, is a sequel to this episode and fantastic.

[@silikon2]

Yeah Nichelle Nichols talked about it in her autobiography: "Contrary to what many may think today, no one really saw it as demeaning back then. In fact, the miniskirt was a symbol of sexual liberation. More to the point, though, in the twenty-third century, you are respected for your abilities regardless of what you do or do not wear." That's her own words and the risk of interpreting from a distance in time.

[@lordflashheart3680]

Speaking the to the womens wardrobe choices: In all fairness the mini-skirt and micro-mini-skirt were being worn by nearly everyone at the time. It was simply the fashion in 1967.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Sounds like a great time 😄

[@brendanfalvy1281]

The same costume designer was responsible for early Next Generation uniforms. The first few episodes of TNG had some lovely unisex short “tunics” that resemble these short skirts. A few bare legged young men can be seen wandering the corridors of the Enterprise-D. Such a shame they didn’t keep those around.

[@darthmaul13]

@@bunnytailsREACTS u also have to remember the mini skirt in the 60’s was women empowerment, they were rebelling. This show had the first interracial kiss, between Uhura and Kirk. Also Uhura is a black woman and an officer. U also have sulu an Asian officer & Spock represents the minorities too.

[@namelessjedi2242]

Not only that, it was a sign of women’s lib and considered empowering and progressive.

[@McMahonHater]

You sound like a good time with this attitude 😆😁🙂👍

[@artboymoy]

Marla McGivers is very much just a character created for this episode. Episodic TV is written to be as streamline as possible in telling their story in 50 minutes. Lots of shortcuts and more stereo and archetypes are used in these stories to get the viewer into motivations and feel for the characters. The shows back then are also meant to entertain, but Star Trek used it's format to do stuff that Twilight Zone did as well with allegories to current times. One thing about the episode is that the VFX have been redone with CGI to bring those up to date, so that why it may have thrown you off a bit at the beginning there.

[@rendalconstantineau1680]

You have to understand, Starfleet is a highly trained organization(explorative organization, but also they serve as a military), which you realize as you watch the show, and one of the last things they would want to do is give in and cooperate with a tyrant, or someone of a similar nature. They would rather give their lives, and they know the Captain would rather they let him die rather than work with someone like Khan in this kind of situation.

[@Lue_Jonin]

Bit of trivia for you, Kirk kisses Ohurah in this series, it was the first interacial kiss in TV history.

[@PenneySounds]

Khan is a fascinating character. Because he's not even evil. He uses cruelty as a means to force obedience, but he hates doing it. But he genuinely believes he deserves obedience, and cannot understand why others can't see that it's just natural that he should rule. He's trapped in a deluded worldview based on the idea of his own superiority. He's such a complex villain.

[@unimpartialobserver]

Not to mention that he was literally conceived and raised to believe that he and those like him, and only they, were "the future of mankind". There are many injustices that are done to children, and raising a gifted child to believe he has a Destiny is one of them.

[@PenneySounds]

@@unimpartialobserver Considering how he was raised, he could have been a lot worse. The rest of his kind seem to revel in cruelty in a way he doesn't. Not before Marla dies, anyway.

[@seanmcmurphy4744]

The analogy to Lucifer is on point. In fact the whole story of the genetically enhanced people trying to take over the world and then being exiled is kind of a retelling of _Paradise Lost_

[@protonneutron9046]

Milton, John Milton is one of the best know English language writers in all of history. He wrote Paradise Lost for instance. It used to be that anyone with a High School education had read him along with all the other authors of the classics. I am now sad.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Never read him in school. They had us read things like To Kill a Mockingbird, The Grapes of Wrath, All Quiet on the Western Front, Night by Eli Weisel, Lord of the Flies, and of course Shakespeare to name a few.

[@protonneutron9046]

@@bunnytailsREACTS OMG, they killed off English lit. classes. Sad. But I knew something was VERY wrong with the public EDU system when 90% of applicants were failing the Jr. High level tests we were giving applicants.

[@karidrgn]

They know how dangerous a ship like the enterprise could be in the wrong hands. And they know that kirk would prefer death to giving his so to someone else.

[@fakecubed]

It would be almost like turning over a Death Star.

[@pleasantvalleypickerca7681]

This is a very good episode but there are even better ones. Star Trek is a great series. It was ground breaking in many ways back then. It was the first tv series that took the Sci Fi genre seriously. It was sci fi for adults with episodes dealing with war, racism, etc and could be controversial. Much of the technology the show invented actually became real life in following decades. The writing was generaly very good as they often hired serious sci fi authors to write the scripts. The cast was exceptionaly good and had a real chemistry together. The characters really develop as the series progresses. There is a reason millions of fans still love the show after nearly 60 years, it's just a damn good show. I highly recommend you watch more.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Stay tuned for more 👀

[@richardcramer1604]

I agree it's a great series, and had many controversial episodes for it's time. But it was not the first to take Sci Fi seriously, several episodes of both The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits (both before Star Trek) also took Sci Fi seriously. You are right though that at the same time that Star Trek aired (an adult show) there was a plethora of less than serious Sci Fi TV shows such as Lost in Space, The Time Tunnel, Land of the Giants, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Sitcoms My favorite Martian and The Jetsons, also if you were British Doctor Who.

[@pleasantvalleypickerca7681]

@@richardcramer1604 Good points. You obviously know your sci-fi history and are a fan like myself. I guess even though as you point out there were episodes on other series that had Sci-Fi themes, my comment was that Star Trek was the first series week in and week out with serious Sci-Fi stories.

[@PungiFungi]

Unfortunately most of the best episodes are from season 1. Season 2 was hit and miss and season 3 was really dreadful.

[@richardcramer1604]

@@pleasantvalleypickerca7681 I agree.

[@chrispittman8854]

LOL! As much as I love this episode, "Kirk" breaking the glass on the cryo chamber like it's a candy counter at the theater just kills me.

[@jenssylvesterwesemann7980]

That was a marvellous reaction video. Looking forward to your Wrath reaction.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks so much!

[@cessnaace]

You have to remember when this series was produced. Most series, even Science-Fiction, only hired one Special Effects company to handle the visual effects for the entire run. Star Trek used four on a rotating basis. During its 2 1/2 season run Star Trek was nominated for 13 Emmys, including for Visual Effects, Film Editing, Art Direction and Scenic Design, Outstanding Continued Performance in a Supporting Role - Leonard Nimoy was nominated 2 years in a row for his performance as Spock, Special Classification For Special Achievement for Visual Effects - The Westheimer Company; all 4 effects houses were nominated in one year but grouped together for one nomination, Special Classification For Special Achievement for Mechanical Effects, and Outstanding Dramatic Series (1967). During the first two years at least one episode each season won a Hugo Award for Best Dramatization of a Science Fiction Story (the episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" won 2. One for Best Original Screenplay; unproduced version - highly unusual - and one for the episode as produced). When Gene Roddenberry's (Series Creator, sometimes Producer/sometimes Executive Producer) secretary expressed an interest in writing he assigned her a troubled script to rewrite. He was so impressed with her work that she eventually became the Head Writer (Script Supervisor). She wrote some of the best episodes, such as "Charlie X." She wrote under the name D.C. Fontana, instead of Dorothy Fontana, because women had a hard time selling scripts to Dramatic Series back then. She was also made Head Writer on Star Trek (The Animated Series) in 1972. It won numerous awards. in 2007 CBS paid to have the Special Effects redone, but they cheaped out. Some fans prefer the originals.

[@long-timesci-fienthusiast9626]

Just to let you know, Mary Quant the new & upcoming British fashion designer in `60`s London, was responsible for making the mini-skirt fashionable. There was a youth movement to rebel against looking like your parents. The teenage girls chose the mini-skirt amongst their more outrageous choices, the boys wore old style military uniform jackets & multi coloured shirts, some with ruffles dating back to earlier centuries.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

I admire their boldness in those days

[@randyshoquist7726]

And she named it after the Mini Cooper car. I found that out only fairly recently. I had long assumed it came from "miniature."

[@long-timesci-fienthusiast9626]

@@randyshoquist7726 Interesting, I did not know that either. The car was a wonderful creation & a style icon in it`s own right.

[@TuomasLeone]

Great reaction! The algorithm brought me here, but your reaction earned a sub. Hopefully, you can do the entire series. The Trek "universe" is deep and wide, looking forward to you exploring it.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you!

[@sebastianblack6506]

Yeah those algorithms must be real because I've never heard of bunnytails channel and suddenly her Star Trek reaction shows up in my feed, so yeah.

[@melenatorr]

OH, Bunnytails!!! You just made me cry when you asked who Milton is. John Milton was an English poet, born in 1608. His most famous work is "Paradise Lost", and the creation of his version of Satan. The epic poem has been a major influence on all types of media since it's publication. Satan as a proud rebel who goes against God, is thrown out of Heaven, and his famous declaration is that "It is better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven". "Star Trek", by the way, makes all kinds of references to various classics, notably Shakespeare; and "Moby Dick" is a running theme during "Star Trek II". You don't need to know all of this sort of thing to enjoy "Star Trek", but it enriches the experience.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

The reference to Milton is John Milton who wrote Paradise Lost. Kirk quotes the book, "it is better to rule in hell than serve in heaven."

[@DMichaelAtLarge]

I'm impressed with your reaction. Most reactors of your generation would have watched such an old show with a condescending attitude and a dismissal of the different mindsets of that time to today's. You were respectful and insightful. Well done.

[@dunringill1747]

Great decision to watch this episode prior to watching "Star Trek 2 - The Wrath of Khan". *IMPORTANT RECOMMENDATION: Star Trek movies 2, 3, & 4 should all be watched together as they make up one giant story arc.* I have subscribed in hopes of you making a Star Trek reaction journey. I'm looking forward to checking out some of your other reactions as well. Since this is the first episode you have ever seen, we must, of course, excuse your underestimation of Captain Kirk's fighting prowess. The thing to know is - Never count Kirk out of a fight, especially when his ship and crew are threatened. *PS: Khan is fully aware that Lt. McGivers betrayed him. He respects that about her. She stood up for her principals and went against him. Khan even finds that as an attractive quality of a strong woman.*

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Hello dun 😊 Thanks for the sub! It’s looking somewhat likely I may continue watching TOS. Thanks for the extra insight on how Khan felt about McGivers.

[@dunringill1747]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Hey BTR! The possibility of a ST TOS journey would be fantastic! You are giving me hope. I enjoyed your speculation point regarding the tv show culture from the 60's in comparison with the modern tv / movie culture take. I think that would make for an interesting review component to your journey reaction of ST TOS. Thank you.

[@ad61video]

"Whats her heartbeat?" Great humor Bunnytails!

[@IggyStardust1967]

You have to remember a few things: This series came out before the "Women's Liberation" movement gained any traction at all. Roddenberry was actually pioneering "Equality" with Star Trek. Seeing not only a woman on the bridge of the ship, but a black woman, was a bit of culture shock to many people. There's an episode (minor spoiler here) where Uhura (the black woman) kisses Captain Kirk on screen. THAT caused a major uproar in many states, and networks in those states refused to even show the episode. It was the first inter-racial kiss in a major television series at the time. The series had ended before mankind had even set foot on the moon. Woodstock hadn't happened yet, either. But times were changing. The 60s and 70s were a much different time in the US. Vietnam was still raging on, Star Wars wasn't even beginning to form in George Lucas' mind, the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey had yet to be made, and computers used punch cards. You might need to google that last one, lol. I know all of this because I was born in 1967, while this series was still in it's original run. Also, the visual effects you're seeing (external shots of the ships, and planets) are from the 2010s, and not the original, although, they hold true to the original effects as closely as possible. I hope to see you do more Star Trek, the show is more "intellectual" than you seem to have been expecting. In fact, the original pilot (The Cage) was considered "Too cerebral" by the network, and in a rare event, commissioned a second pilot for the show. Not to waste the original, it was reworked into a double episode titled "The Menagerie".

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

I don’t know much about that time period so the info is greatly appreciated. If there were enough interest, I would be down to do the whole series. Let’s hope that ends up being the case!

[@PrimeSniper7]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Not many people react to the entire series on this site, I would be interested.

[@MarkMcLT]

​@bunnytailsREACTS Another channel, The Target Audience, has recently completed a first time reaction to the whole of TOS. They certainly found plenty of interest and from all accounts really enjoyed the experience, so much so that they have decided to watch every piece of ST content available, TV and movies, in release order. They are currently working their way through ST: The Animated Series.

[@flatebo1]

@@MarkMcLT RolyPolyOllie has also been doing ST:TOS episodes. He's just been doing select episodes, though.

[@Caseytify]

A legend has grown up over the years around Roddenberry. Here's one example: the legend is that Gene bravely pushed for a female XO, but the big wigs weren't comfortable with women in authority. Not so; they just objected to the actress (Majel Barret), not the role. Gene later had her change her hair from brunette to blonde, whereupon she became the eternally pining Nurse Chapel.

[@theylied1776]

His name is Dr. McCoy. But it was a thing to call surgeons (Sawbones) because, during the Civil War, military doctors did several amputations. Or they would shorten it to (Bones).

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

You seem to be able to analyze the stories and characters better than a lot of people. Definatley better than JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman.

[@jpotter2086]

1966 .... So Long Ago. Grew up watching TOS in afternoon syndication. It was always on somewhere all through the '70s and '80s, until TNG came along, directly into syndication.

[@joefaber1381]

This episode "Space Seed" was the basis for the second Star Trek movie "Star Trek 2, the Wrath of Khan."

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Mhm, that's the reason I watched it :)

[@dan1216]

20:11 who is Milton? He's the guy with the red Swingline Stapeler in Office Space. :D Actually, he's referring to John Milton, who wrote poetry and prose between 1632 and 1674, and is most famous for his epic poetry.

[@Warped9]

Miniskirts were a symbol of female empowerment in the 1960s. You were watching the episode with updated special fx done about fifteen years ago. The original fx would look different. Television episodes also had a longer running time then-50 minutes in an hour long program compared with only about 42 minutes today. The original series is where Star Trek began. Many of the original episodes were written by established science fiction writers which none of the successive Trek series or films can claim. TOS was also written on a distinctly adult level compared to contemporary Trek since 2009 which is written on the teenage level.

[@alexanderfish4797]

The original series was remastered in 2006 in an attempt to attract modern viewers to the series. Part of that remastering was a complete updating of the visual effects with CGI. This is how the show looks more modern.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

I would preferred to have seen the original form :(

[@alexanderfish4797]

@@bunnytailsREACTS sadly I don't think the original versions are streaming anywhere, but they are on the blu-rays and dvds.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

@@alexanderfish4797 aww

[@FireLordIroh]

Star Wars is my life but thankfully I've fallen in love with Trek recently Always glad to see people give it a shot This franchise isn't for everyone. Takes a lot of influence from Navy content

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

How did you come to enjoy Star Trek? May I ask how and why you started?

[@FireLordIroh]

​@@bunnytailsREACTS ​ Ironically it was Star Wars / George Lucas that gave me a good feeling I'd like Trek. Which I know sounds like heresy to some Trekkies lol. Star Wars has always been more Fantasy than Sci-Fi. The first Star Wars film ever made was literally about a Farm Boy guided by a Wizard to be a Knight to save a Princess.... Textbook Fantasy. The thing is George Lucas studied anthropology and now I know how much that influenced his work. I already knew Trek had a major focus on cultures so that box was certainly checked. Not to mention the more I learned how Star Wars brilliantly uses emotional, intellectual and philosophical conflicts, the more I realized how universal so many of its themes are. They've existed throughout practically all our planet and history dating all the way back to cave paintings. I had a feeling Trek would echo many of those timeless themes in an interesting way. Can't say it disappointed. Sorry for the text wall. I honestly could have said more

[@powerbadpowerbad]

Yeah,everything about Trek is taken from the navy.The ranks of officers and enlisted,having a battle-bridge ( this is mostly for air-craft carriers,if the main bridge gets destroyed,there's a battle-bridge in another section of the ship where they can take control of the ship )There was a book published called:The Making of Star Trek that explains everything about Star Trek.

[@Chris_Marrero]

Really enjoyed your reaction to the character interaction and you had me cracking up at your reaction to Marla ("oh, she thirsty"). LOL! I look forward to watching your viewing of Wrath of Khan now.

[@matthewdunham1689]

Kirk is a mad hand to hand combatant 😂❤

[@vinceburgess9012]

I love this! Just found you and immediately liked and subscribed. It was so cool watching someone from 2023 watching a show from the sixties for the first time! A series I grew up watching! Your comments were fun and entertaining as well as insightful. Can’t wait to see more of your content. Thanks for sharing.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks very much, Vince! Glad you liked it! Also, the Star Trek community seems very kind and respectful as opposed to some of the comments I’ve gotten on other videos and I really love that. 😁

[@torbenkristiansen2742]

Being stuck in the contemporary here and now, is a very good reason to check out science-fiction of all ages, for a wider perspective. It's absolutely educational, as an added bonus!

[@reminicrush9016]

“Milton”, John Milton was an English poet who wrote the epic poem Paradise Lost. This is where the well-known proverb "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven" came from. In Book I, the character of Satan made the monologue..

[@rwhite9994]

I am a huge fan of Bunny, was exposed to her way back...FF7R subd every since. It was enjoyable seeing this old show through her youthful experiences. What I remember of the ST show, was how forward it was for its time. From the way we think and act, to society and its conflicts. It take on war, races, feminism... so progressive for its time. My brother once told me, that Lt Ohura was in command of the ship because most all of the bridge crew was on a planet.... and she was giving orders to while males. It was a huge deal and backlash, with some southern states wanting to ban the show. I watched this old show in serial, around... 2000s ish. I found it amazing. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this kind of content, but everything you do is amazing. Also would love a reaction to anime Insomniacs after School (mostly about photography and astrology clubs), great stuff. Oh and of course, My Dress up Darling.

[@technopirate304]

2:08 your husband is a man of culture. Fun fact a few years after the Original Series ended, Nichelle Nichols was asked by NASA to help recruit women and Black candidates into their astronaut corps. Many now famous Black astronauts were personally recruited by her. One of them was Dr. Mae Jemison the first Black woman in space. In 1992, when Jemison went into space about the shuttle Endeavour she made calls back to Earth using the phrase “hailing frequencies open” as a homage to Ms. Nichols. A year later Dr. Jemison actually appeared on Star Trek: The Next Generation as a lieutenant in Engineering.

[@itubeutubewealltube1]

also, miniskirts were introduced in the third episode? the original two pilots and first episode, the girls wore the same pants as the men. The studio execs wanted the girls in miniskirts. In fact, roddenberry wanted the second in command to be a woman and the execs removed that and had him make a second pilot with spock as second in command. He had to fight for uhura to be an officer on the bridge . she was technically fourth in charge of the enterprise. The show lost a main female character in the first season because a tv exec sexually harrassed/assaulted her and she was blamed and fired. She came back for the movies. It was a miracle this show could even be made in the sixties.. Some of the storylines have relevance even today.... but you have to watch them all..

[@PungiFungi]

I love to see what the reaction to Mudds Women would be.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

She wasn't fired because of that. She had a serious substance abuse problem.

[@allwaizeright9705]

Remember - Star Wars is like the old Buster Crabbe Buck Rogers - Saturday Matinee serials from the old Hollywood... Star Trek was pitched as Wagon Train to the Stars - a Different adventure every week...

[@nadeeml9276]

Great reaction! Well, if your goal was to get a bunch of nerds like me to flood your channel, you're on the right track lol. Im gald you'll be (or maybe you already have) watching Star Trek 2, excellent movie. Im not sure what your intentions are regarding reacting to Star Trek, if it'll be a regular thing - but I, and Im sure many others as well, would be very interested to see your reactions of maybe the best episodes of each series, if not entire seasons altogether. Regarding the Kirk vs Khan fight at the end, I had the same thoughts you did, so Im trying to chalk it up as Kirk being the BEST Captain in Starfleet, years of tactical experience under his belt and survivor of many hand to hand combats - that's how i nerd rationalize it. You said a lot of stuff that I also wanted to comment on, but this is quickly becoming an essay so I'll just say one thing then on to Vulcans. Oddly enough we also admire the conquerors and tyrants of the past. Napoleon, Julius Caesar, Ghengis Khan, Alexander. Brilliant military minds, conquerors, but if you read about their time it was quite awful, they left death and destruction in their wake and were responsible for a lot of suffering. And yes we romanticize them now as amazing people. Anyway Without giving away too much that may spoil future episodes/movies - Vulcans are a race of alien humanoids, one of the closest races humans get along with, especially in the Federation of planets. They, biologically/mentally feel emotions far more intensely than humans do, and because of their violent past there were movements to curb these passions. In a nutshell, long ago certain leaders developed certain types of mental training to suppress the feeling of emotion and movements developed to living their lives on the basis of logic. Centuries later all Vulcans go through this training and by the time they reach young adulthood they've basically attained that ideal. Of course, if you watch other episodes, there are always exceptions, situations...etc, but for now, this is sufficient. Oh and yes, they have this move called the "Vulcan nerve pinch", Spock does it once every couple of eps, LOVED seeing that in the reruns they had in the 90s when i was a kid lol

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Heya! I’m glad this video is receiving such enthusiasm. I didn’t initially plan to do more than just The Wrath of Khan, since it was just a movie that got voted as our Patreon movie for the month, but I did have a lot of fun watching that and this episode. I’d be more than happy to explore the series further if there is enough interest and I do have another more personal reason as well. So I am hoping for this to take off!

[@nadeeml9276]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Ill be here for the journey!

[@AstroXeno]

The show is from the 60s, but the special effects were all re-worked with CGI in the early 2000s

[@NefariousKoel]

I've always had mixed enjoyment with Star Trek in general, but Star Trek 2: The Wrath Of Khan is an excellent sci-fi movie. IMO, the best one by a large margin. Glad you're gonna watch it after seeing the old TV episode it relates to. Good choice!

[@komradewirelesscaller6716]

Ahhh the debute of Khan. One of my favorites!

[@cashflowhustles]

Old School Trekkie here since my childhood back in the 1970s. If you ever decide to dive off into the immense world of Star Trek starting from the 60s up until the 90s you are in for a HUGE TREAT! I would stop at Star Trek Enterprise which was canceled back in 2006 I believe. I never could get into that show.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

I hope the Trekkies come through! I’d love to watch more but since it is such an immense world, I would be hesitant to commit if there wasn’t a big audience for it.

[@philfitnesspt6139]

Don't agree enterpise is brilliant from season 3 onwards agree first two seasons were disjointed but not bad especially with the brilliant scott from quantum leap being the star!

[@alexanderfish4797]

Enterprise was the victim if too many network and studio dictates. Had the creators been allowed to proceed with the show they envisioned from the get go it may have received a lot more positively.

[@barrygreen7098]

This is my first encounter with one of your reviews…. As a trekie all my life it is amazing to hear your takes on this episode….. well done 27:16

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks!

[@americanaforever6725]

A bit of culture shock made your reaction extremely enjoyable 👍🏻. I grew up in the 70’s when this was the norm so I’m fascinated by your perspective.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Glad you enjoyed! :D

[@suzanneroberge494]

What fun to see your reactions to this. Yes, I wouldn't have expected Khan to have been too happy with Marla after she back-stabbed him either. Can't imagine he'd of let her live, but that's the way the episode was written. Interesting that Wrath of Khan came up on the top of your suggestion list. It's worth a watch.

[@isaackellogg3493]

The type of gun Kirk carries has a stun setting. It also has a heavy stun setting, for “resistant lifeforms.” If he’d got a shot off, it would have made short work of Khan.

[@VincentMaroldi]

I was in H.S. when Star Trek first aired. I loved the series and I thank you for revisiting it. I think you will enjoy it as much as your Dad did. Cheers!

[@Warped9]

I think Kirk reasoned it was too dangerous to have Khan and his followers in contemporary society. Hence his decision to maroon Khan and hus group on a hostile world with at keast a chance to survive

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Makes sense, thank you 😁

[@adamcollazo8228]

Would Khan be THAT dangerous, though? What Khan has no understanding of is that the Federation is VAST. The Federation (with about 100 member worlds in the TOS era) is a post scarcity society, a society of essentially infinite resources. There is no need to conquer. The Federation likely would have gladly given Khan and his people an entire uninhabited world of their own if they wanted one. So what exactly would conquer anyway? Does he really believe he would "conquer Earth with 72 people? Khan and his people would more than likely identify more with Klingon culture than the culture of the Federation.

[@Akkatlah]

Kirk's only mistakes were to not check on them from time to time and not inform starfleet about their finding

[@Warped9]

Kirk likely did inform Starfleet and he had no obligation to follow up after Starfleet was informed.

[@Akkatlah]

@@Warped9 I think he didn't inform starfleet because then the events of WOK wouldn't have taken place. There wouldn't have being any confusion with the planets

[@tomyoung9049]

This is a great episode to discover the original series. The creator wanted to sneak in social commentary wherever he could. The banter especially among the main three is a main part of the shows.

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

Jumping right into the cold water of the middle of the series, lol. I guess watching it today is some kind of culture shock. I watched those back in the eighties on a black and white screen as a kid. Then later there were cable channels who aired TNG in the nineties. I really love the series and how they are optimistic about the human race even though earth unified seems far off to this time sadly. Also Milton's the author of Paradise Lost where Satan is starting his reign in hell.

[@davidmarquardt9034]

I was six years old when Star Trek first aired. I first saw it in the early 70's, all through the 70's and into the 90's, it was in syndication on over 400 stations all over the country. Any time a station dropped it, another would immediately pick it up. In the 60's everything had to be westerns or detectives, sometimes western-detectives. So when Star trek came out it was a radical new concept, TV executives were very wary and suspicious of it, back then people who were interested in Sci-Fi were considered weird and not mainstream viewers. So Roddenberry had a very hard time getting a network to pick it up.

[@mannygee005]

wow what a great reaction. You brought up a lot of things to think about. When there are ambitious writers the storylines written often provoke thoughts because important or meaningful issues are woven into the background of the stories. I'll mention a couple ideas. Star Trek this original version is a kind of idealized future and as you can see the top officers in the crew down to each person refused to bow to tyranny or however you want to say it when Kahn was threatening to kill their captain. Bones starts off earlier by saying... "Well either choke me or cut my throat..." this is an idealized response to (oops probably I can't say certain words) let's call it a personal attack, a very serious and overt threat to his life. Spock is half human and half Vulcan. Vulcans are actually or were originally a very emotional people and to save their society they adopted a non-emotional way of life and they turned instead to "cold" logic. Since Spock is half human he gets more emotional than other Vulcans, he has to fight these tendencies in his associations with humans. Despite this he became close friends with two people, Captain Kirk and McCoy "Bones" (his nickname). Because they're friends they often in good-nature make fun of Spock's refusal to show any emotions. Spock always pretends he was "not concerned" such as when he found his friend Kirk had not been killed. And what of Kahn Noonien Singh? It seems as if he provokes baser thoughts of those around him. He appears to have a very high charisma level. He forces you to decide and to think what you really are about and where you stand. "Such a man takes what he wants..." And again the top crew, each one stood against him, against his power and his strength. Kahn had won the ship but they refused to cooperate even threatened with certain death. In the end Kirk made an executive decision to pardon Kahn... This also is an idealized response. Kirk is Kirk and he took a stand in his decision here. It is a very compassionate response even though Kahn sentenced him to death in that decompression chamber. They set an example against incarceration as a waste of human potential. Wow crazy right? Watching an old show you should think about it as a time capsule. Not only is it entertaining but it makes you think and compare to present society. What allusions are we living by today?

[@gainz4dayz576]

This is an incredible treat, I absolutely love Star Trek! Your interest in it is awesome.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

I am down to watch the whole series if there is enough interest in it. :D

[@powerbadpowerbad]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Please do,I enjoyed your reaction,comments and insights into Star trek. This is one of my favorite episodes from the original series. Gotta love Khan,he didn't play around,all about conquest,domination with him in charge. Have to respect his: HUSTLE. LOL.

[@geminicricket4975]

​@@bunnytailsREACTS Watching this before Wrath of Khan is a good idea but it wouldn't hurt to watch a few more as well. It would give you a better sense of the characters involved, which is an important part of this whole series. It's good science fiction but it's biggest charm was the relationships between it's characters, especially the "Trekkie Trinity" (Kirk, Spock & "Bones") in particular.

[@ccthomas]

If you're surprised at how good the space shots look for a 60's show, it's because they were remastered in 2006, replaced with CGI versions. As for this episode, even though it is important backstory for the movie, the character of McGivers is really inconsistent with how most other characters in the series are portrayed.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Ohhhh remastered. That makes sense haha!

[@stuffyouotterlistento1461]

@@bunnytailsREACTS IIRC, the remastering was mainly because they needed to upscale the ship shots and such for HD format. I kind of hate it because of how out of place it looks to me, but maybe I'm overly sensitive to inserting CGI in stuff that was made before CGI was a thing. Don't get me started on the Star Wars Special Editions.

[@travisboyle285]

​@@stuffyouotterlistento1461...the Blu-rays let you watch the CGI or original versions of the show. Which is pretty cool.

[@geminicricket4975]

McGivers was inconsistent but... the plot had to happen, ya know... ;)

[@DouggieDinosaur]

"I Saw The Sign" was Khan's jam during "The Eugenics Wars" 🎶🎧

[@samsonau8205]

You are watching the enhanced SFX version from the 90s/00s. Some people love them, others still prefer the old effects...gotta appreciate whatever they could do practically in those days.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

That makes sense! I enjoy seeing the original version more but at least they didn't CHANGE anything.. I hope.

[@alexanderfish4797]

CBS did fans a great service by including the original versions along with the remastered on bluray, unlike that other franchise that shall not be named.

[@macjack5978]

Old versions all the way

[@jamespfp]

12:05 -- RE: "You must Now ask to stay."; The 50 Shades of Khan's domineering personality.

[@pjftoo7588]

Great reaction to Space Seed. As iconic and popular as it is now, the show was never mainstream, or a great success at the time. It was cancelled after season two and saved by a write in campaign by dedicated fans. In syndication it became the cultural phenomenon, we all know. Many of the shows are really little morality plays that turn on a decision that Kirk must make. They also addressed many of the burning issues of the day from their unique soapbox. Some of the TV conventions of the time can be a bit jarring though, the stunt cuts, designed when people watched on 20-26" tube TVs, can be a bit too obvious, and the sometimes filming of female guest stars through a filter to make them appear perfect and ethereal, just seems silly by today's standards. If you do decide to continue reacting to the odd TOS episode, I would recommend City On The Edge Of Forever, Mirror, Mirror, A Private Little War, and for some Spock/Vulcan mythos, Journey To Babel and Amok Time.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks! I’m leaning towards reacting to them all

[@barreloffun10]

​@@bunnytailsREACTSAwesome, I'd love to see you react to all of TOS, starting with The Cage (the pilot), and also the Animated Series too.

[@pjftoo7588]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Me too. I'd definitely watch a full season, or a full series, reaction.

[@liontone]

McGivers felt belittled and invalidated by her career, and captain. This is illustrated by Kirk acting very indifferent toward her, struggling to remember her name, and then mispronouncing it - to which Spock thoughtfully corrected him. This leaves the door open for her to fall in love with Khan, who sees her importance. Much of what happens in this, and Wrath Of Khan is actually caused by Kirk’s actions.

[@kevinc3427]

Nice! I think you should watch all the Star Trek movies starting with the 1st one (poor Veega). But watching any Star Trek that had Gene Roddenberry involved is great. Gene Roddenberry subscribed to the philosophy of Humanism... so Star Trek, up thru The Next Generation, reflects this. Roddenberry was actually a veteran and had a very interesting life before he made Star Trek; he was well read and well traveled, unlike most writer's nowadays. Also, Next Generation was what Roddenberry thought Star Trek should be. Believe it or not Star Trek was very "progressive" for it's time.

[@powerbadpowerbad]

Roddenberry was a LAPD cop for 8 yrs and he'd write tv scripts in his spare time.He also flew missions during WW2,then commercial after WW2.He really did blase a trail. LOL.

[@photoTHiNK]

A terrific reaction. I’m so pleased I accidentally landed on this video. You are most excellent at this. While watching the reaction I could see the inevitable 2023 sensibility filter. In your summery, there was recognition of this and you were then able to comment for the time. You are a brave soul to jump into the middle of Star Trek with the only context of homework! The IP of Star Trek matures and grows with the times. I adore the current Star Trek content! Cheers! New follower.

[@fredklein3829]

Well-done and please do more Trek TOS.

[@taramcblakeshire8516]

The short skirts and the boots also known as go-go boots where the fashion of the young women in the 60s.

[@drb6771]

The Vulcans were once an extremely violent and intensely emotional people, they now follow the discipline of Kolinahr to completely purge all emotions from their minds. Vulcans still have emotions, but do not express or release them. Vulcans are very spiritual, they are also telepaths and can perform mind melds to enter anothers mind and thoughts. Spock is actually half Human/Vulcan. BTW Star trek 3 is a direct sequel to 2. 💖💖🐰🐰

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks for the info, Dan!

[@TomHill-xh7ec]

Your ability to watch a 60s-era TV show and recognize the differences between then and now, while acknowledging what has changed earned a like and a subscription from me. I came here from your ST II first watch, and look forward to what else you have to offer.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thanks!

[@jasonrichards4672]

I think the logic of the crew not to cooperate with Khan despite the fact it would kill Kirk was that they would rather all die than support a terrorist. I'm thinking along the lines of how US soldiers are trained to only give their name, rank, etc. when captured even under threat of death.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you, that clears up a lot!

[@stuffyouotterlistento1461]

I think it's commonplace in modern entertainment for people to play along until they can turn the tables, so maybe that's what's expected, but I don't know that it's necessarily any more realistic. Imagine if a modern day naval vessel were captured by a hostile force or nation, and its crew put in a similar situation. How would they be expected to act?

[@wfanking1187]

Ah such a classic, was long before I was born but loved the reruns ages later, also John Milton is the famous 17th Century author of Paradise Lost, and this leads to the amazing Wrath of Kahn movie that revolutionized star trek film series.

[@drb6771]

What!? Are you watching Star Trek now??!! 😀😀🥰🥰💖💖🤗🤗🐰🐰

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Well we did a Wrath of Khan movie night so I watched this first

[@drb6771]

@@bunnytailsREACTS Thats awesome, it's one of my favorite movies. That would be pretty cool watching there on movie night. Oh I also put a post about Spock/Vulcans in there, not sure if you saw it or not.

[@winterbas8927]

Came here after watching your twaction to Wrath of Khan. Was not disappointed. Thanks so much 🙂

[@markallen2984]

One thing to keep in mind when watching Star Trek from the 1960s..... Audiences are considerably dumber today. Oh, modern audiences have been exposed to more media, but they think less and are satisfied with cliches and tropes.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Why did you get dumber? o.O

[@marciebulsaraorcutt]

It would be interesting someday for you to also do a reaction to a movie from the more-recent Star Trek “reboot” film series: “Star Trek Into Darkness”. In this series of movies, they’ve recast all of the original characters from the original Star Trek TV show (which is now referred to as: TOS (The Original Series) or Old Trek, vs the films being referred to as Reboot or New Trek). In the reboot movies, though, they are following a different timeline from the original show. (It’s confusing to me, but: In the first reboot film, they started out basically replaying the same chain of events as would’ve happened in the formation of the original show… at the end of the movie, though, there’s a cataclysmic event which then sets this “same” crew on an ALTERNATE timeline from the original show.) ANYWAY… In Star Trek Into Darkness, this “same” crew ALSO meet Khan for the first time… BUT (being an “alternate universe” from the original show) …the Khan character is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and all of the circumstances/storyline are completely different. There is a really INTERESTING part (which is also confusing to me) where (somehow) a much-older ORIGINAL Mr. Spock (played by Leonard Nimoy, the original Mr. Spock) shows up and warns the new (still young) Mr. Spock about the dangers of the Khan character, if this “alternate reality” crew were to make the same mistake as happened the first time, when Khan was left free.

[@senortrekkie]

Hell no 💀 Terrible movies

[@marciebulsaraorcutt]

@@senortrekkie Maybe she’d come away saying the same thing, then (Hell no, TERRIBLE) …I’d just be curious🖖

[@michael-1680]

You are absolutely correct about it being very different watching this in 2023, versus 1968. Now, it's merely interesting, maybe funny. But seeing it back then, for the first time, it was absolutely ASTONISHING. Computers, spaceships, lasers, orbital communications, social media, cell phones, all the things we now take for granted, did not exist - except for when, for an hour, you could get a brief look into the future, and behold the wonders that could be wrought. And more - to realize that there WAS to be a future, and it was bigger, brighter, and more beautiful than anything you could have imagined. That we WOULD succeed, and work together, and build a world, and a civilization, that we could be proud of. It was that optimism, that promise, that confidence, that set STAR TREK apart from all the dark and pessimistic sort of stories that predominated among the media of the time. And it was that, that made the series THE most successful and most long-lived story franchise of all time; one which has, to date, inspired countless children who have since grown up to become scientists, engineers, and businesspeople who have made it their life's work to MAKE IT ALL COME TRUE! And that's why the legacy of Star Trek will never die.

[@bobbelleci9995]

That was hilarious!! 😂 You are so funny too! 😊 Ricardo was a fantastic actor. "Welcome to Fantasy Island!" (TV series) Good comments! Thanks.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@darkskythe1979]

Wow your one of the few that watched Space Seed before watching Wrath of Kahn. I'm definitely subscribing.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you!

[@dionysus2006]

I really enjoyed watching the reaction of someone who had never watched Star Trek before. I grew up on it so it is part of my culture. I both liked and subscribed 🙂

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

Thank you! And now you must get caught up on all the other episodes. Hope you like those too!

[@dandeliondown7920]

I am a trekkie from 1966. Lieutenant Marla McGivers was not representative of the women of the 1960s. She was a vulnerable individual, the type of person who ends up getting into an abusive relationship, possibly because of how she was raised. There were many "strong women" in the original series - - in fact, the series was regarded as being far ahead of its time in terms of breaking the mold. These names won't mean anything to you now, but if you continue to explore the original series you will see: Edith Keeler; T’Pau; High Priestess Natira; the Romulan starship commander; Number One; Lt Uhura; T’Pring; Lt Areel Shaw; Dr Elizabeth Dehner; Dr Miranda Jones; and many more women who were admirable and impressive.

[@nathan8590]

Bones was the doctor of the ship. Bones was his nickname. Spock was half human and half Vulcan: an alien race. The wrath of Khan movie was made in the 80’s, so it’s a bit modern and up to date. If I remember correctly Uhura wears pants instead of the miniskirt. Too bad, Lol.

[@bunnytailsREACTS]

The miniskirt was a nice touch!

[@brucehunter8235]

This is the remastered version of TOS, so the special effects are updated - very well IMO, they have captured the feel of the original very well. The point being these aren't the original special effects but ones that were made in the 2000s.

[@craigmorris4083]

The only actor who could ever play Khan Noonien Singh the way he was meant to be played. Mr. Ricardo Montalbán. :)

[@craigmorris4083]

And of course this episode lead to the greatest Star Trek movie ever made. ;)

[@McMahonHater]

He's mentally stable, and knows exactly what he's doing.

[@shanepye7078]

John Milton - “Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.” When Kahn asked Kirk have you heard of Milton after Kirk had asked asked him “could you tame a planet”

[@michaelconnor1542]

Note McGuivers was a strong intellectual. A professional and expert in her field. Almost a feminist. Like many modern feminist, all it took was the right dominating man to put her on the path of being dominated. She is the extremes. Also, it isn't the women of this episode that are sexualized. It is the men. Particularly Kahn. Recardo Montalban was a great actor and sex symbol in the sixties. I knew him as Mister Rork of Fantasy Island. Ask your father how big a shock it was seeing him as Kahn in Star Trek 2.