Spock makes his way to the control room with a phaser...only to find two identical Captain Kirks (Whom Gods Destroy)
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@jameslewis62594 жыл бұрын
Spock was just waiting for the real Kirk to rip his shirt. It was really only a matter of time.
@jackgibsxxx07503 жыл бұрын
Not in this case. No Females around too see it. And I said "Females" not "women". Females as in any thing Female from a horta to a kazinti to a Breen. 😂😂😂
@darioinfini3 жыл бұрын
@@jackgibsxxx0750 If it's Acturian it doesn't matter!
@johnbockelie38993 жыл бұрын
This trick will be repeated years later on a Klingon prison planet.
@Vejitatheouji2 жыл бұрын
"That shirt cannot be maintained indefinitely. And I have time."
@ChrisJust-dx3pm10 ай бұрын
"Because rips.. rips are our business!" 😮
@shinwonderboy6 жыл бұрын
other kirk: he’s fake shoot him kirk: shoot both of us, it’s the only way to save the enterprise spock: *shoots the other kirk* the REAL kirk would never pass up a chance to die for the enterprise
@BedsitBob5 жыл бұрын
Neither was going to die. The phaser was on stun.
@EdWeibe4 жыл бұрын
the story was that the real Kirk was depleated from imprisonment hence was the logical one to loose the fight. Hence he shot the one with the chair.
@fierysage65214 жыл бұрын
Spock's decision as I see it was based solely on the fact that Kirk told him to stun both of them. The shapeshifter would not demand Spock to do so because he would reshape into his real form. Only the real Kirk would have nothing to hide, since he is, in fact, truly Kirk.
@wumb78644 жыл бұрын
@@fierysage6521 I think he just realized Kirk cared for the ship. Because in the other case, if he just said shoot both, without adding about the safety of the Enterprise, he could've been bluffing, and well, that wouldn't be the first time
@ssnadera64983 жыл бұрын
That is logical
@lynnpoint63953 жыл бұрын
"Spock! Can't you tell I'm your Captain?! That other guy looks like a stuntman!"
@spaceace10062 ай бұрын
From the back, you can see Shatner's stunt double\stand in on the right!
@lillyf9734 жыл бұрын
*two Kirks fighting dramarically in an epic showdown* Meanwhile... Spock sitting on the floor doing eenie-meanie-miney-mo in his head.
@rickacton75403 жыл бұрын
spock would already know the end result of that sequence, esp in a binary set, is easily determined by the initial choice
@johnbockelie38993 жыл бұрын
The next time this happens , it's up to the Klingons to decide: Star Trek 6.
@anderson0882 жыл бұрын
2:27 the fake grunts.
@zacmumblethunder74668 ай бұрын
Speculation on Spock's thoughts here depends very much on what type of fan is doingbthe speculating.
@spaceace10062 ай бұрын
Spock's Logical Mind figured it out very quickly!!
@alexpalmer910111 жыл бұрын
If I was in Spock's place, I would've started talking trash about Garth and not let up. Kirk may advise against insults, but Garth's ego would never tolerate it.
@jackgibsxxx07503 жыл бұрын
And if it had been 2 Scottys just start talking trash about you know what and that's all it would take. 😂😂😂😂
@georgehenderson77833 жыл бұрын
Alex Palmer Are you kidding? Do ye not remember the slew of insults Kirk hurled at Spock in another episode when he was trying to make him angry enough to snap out of a trance induced by poppy-like plants? 😂
@cordongrouch93233 жыл бұрын
Just ask Kirk about the preceeding episode. Garth would be clueless.
@00bikeboy3 жыл бұрын
Why not just ask both of them a better question, like what's my wife's name? The real Kirk should have no trouble with this, Garth would have no clue. This is a fantastic episode, with wonderful performances by Steve Ihnat as Garth and Yvonne Craig as Marta.
@brandonhea43942 жыл бұрын
Another good idea but I think when Kirk says just shoot both of us for the safety it shows Captain Kirk would sacrifice himself in order for better outcome.
@Bootmahoy882 жыл бұрын
When I saw this scene long ago I had this response, "What's the problem, Spock? Put your phaser on stun and shoot them both right away."
@stevehoward3541 Жыл бұрын
Exactly then tie them both up and get Bones to come in and determine who's who. But that would have been not as dramatic.
@redpyre Жыл бұрын
Leonard Nimoy wrote a long letter to the producers because this scene made no sense lol
@hanoc101 Жыл бұрын
@@redpyre Yes. Originally Garth was supposed to punch Spock and knock him out. Nimoy objected because it was against established rules. Spock is stronger than an ordinary human and no blow from a human - Garth was human just with this shape shifting ability should be able to knock him out.
@Kurzula51504 жыл бұрын
"Hey Bob, we need you to double for Shatner for some Shatner on Shatner action." "What? Again!? How many times does this guy get duplicated?"
@porridge573 жыл бұрын
Lol! Right. I can think of at least 3 others.
@LorenHelgeson3 жыл бұрын
"I can't believe I kissed you." "Must have been your lifelong ambition."
@manlymcstud85883 жыл бұрын
it probably was. let's not kid ourselves, kirk would do kirk.
@barneys42363 жыл бұрын
"Isn't it about time you became someone else?" "I like it here".
@michaelmorton5698 Жыл бұрын
@@barneys4236 "Well, well, well..."
@piou77piou3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if after this episode Spock said "You know captain. It could be very useful to have a secret password in case we had another "evil" you because I'm done."
@blackimp49878 ай бұрын
actually among all the powerful creatures in the universe they've encountered some of them might be capable of reading mind so secret password might be ineffective
@Da1337Man4 ай бұрын
But that would only work if someone is _pretending_ to be Kirk. If this had been an evil clone, the clone would know any secret passwords or other highly sensitive information that only the original Kirk knows.
@robertmorris89972 ай бұрын
@@Da1337Man "Shut up Spock! I'm sick of your half-breed interference!"
@RADIXCHRISTUSMOLE5 жыл бұрын
Spock found himself in a “King Solomon’s choice” situation and was given a similar solution to his conundrum.
@codetech55984 жыл бұрын
I came here for that comment.
@RedCygnes143 жыл бұрын
Now I understand Kirk's comment at the end of the episode. Thanks!
@andregodfrey30222 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exact same thing
@BigNoseDog5 жыл бұрын
If I had to fight myself, I’d die laughing
@spudhead1693 жыл бұрын
Pure class. lmao.
@wildewulf-98733 жыл бұрын
You could kick your own ass, press assault charges,have yourself locked up then go bail yourself out. All in a days work,provided you don't die laughing!
@redblade81603 жыл бұрын
BigNoseDoggie So will the other one!
@dickdastardly6352 жыл бұрын
From the UK , very amusing, made me laugh.
@lawrencestrabala6146 Жыл бұрын
Kirk gets to do that twice. Here and Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country.
@TommygunNG3 жыл бұрын
If Spock had known that stunning would cause the disguise to end, he could have just stunned them both from the beginning. The STUN capability of a phaser makes so many of our present-day techniques obsolete.
@jamestavella139810 күн бұрын
Except, if you know Spock, he is logical to the core and strictly by the Starfleet rule book (at this point in his career). Assault on an superior officer is a serious criminal act. Basically, he won't do that unless Kirk to give him the order, which Kirk kind of did...Finally. He made a calculated guess and happened to shoot Garth first. Its Kirk who should have told Spock, "Shoot us both! I gave you an order."
@kbdabear13 жыл бұрын
"I've got two guns, one for each of you"
@b0ajvk83 жыл бұрын
Love the Tombstone homage ❤️
@boledle4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy how 60s television used real stand-ins instead of the fake CGI digital faces of today
@rikk3193 жыл бұрын
Sure, because nothing helps keep the immersion like an obvious look at a stuntman's face.
@garyfrancis61933 жыл бұрын
Because CGI didn’t exist then. This wasn’t really a look at the 23rd Century.
@Da_Publick9 ай бұрын
They still use stunt doubles, a lot more than you may realize.
@edadan3 жыл бұрын
Those fight scenes looked so real when I was 10 years old.
@TheArcher1014 ай бұрын
The DW Ray guns where they just flash a light and the actor flies backwards
@SheldonAdama17Ай бұрын
“I’ve got more important things to do than play Choose the Changeling!” - O’Brien, a century later
@Shanethefilmmaker5 жыл бұрын
The one time you see William Shatner actually fight his Stunt Double.
@itwontcomeout56783 жыл бұрын
Just like when Sean Connery gets to fight his stunt double in Thunderball!
@Shanethefilmmaker Жыл бұрын
@Tejesh Patel they didn't fight.
@Da_Publick9 ай бұрын
It happens again in 'The Undiscovered Country.'
@JerusalemStrayCat5 жыл бұрын
For some reason at 2:04 for a split second I thought "no it's the chair, the chair is Garth"
@vidamzkii7 жыл бұрын
11/10 For the fighting scene.
@laureenlombardi80916 жыл бұрын
Vinzhionald Radam g
@molitva751 Жыл бұрын
The great Steve Ihnat. He left us way too soon.
@robertoautore92523 жыл бұрын
For Captain James T Kirk, the safety of the USS Enterprise is a priority.
@paularose8430 Жыл бұрын
When Spock saw the two of them . He said a clue . But he waited til one of the captains made the first move. William Shatner and Leonard Niony are both terrific actors
@lillymsf59463 жыл бұрын
When i watched this fight scene for the first time, my brother yelled, "Spock, shoot the body double!" XD
@berndtherrenvolk1951Ай бұрын
Spock: "Jim, I understand you feel great disappointment over the current situation, but there's no need to beat yourself up."
@johngibson28843 жыл бұрын
Spock shot after using logic to determine only a righteous man like Kirk would call for his own demise to save the many
@miketalas7998 Жыл бұрын
I just love how Garth puts the chair down before he falls to the ground! :) Flawless :D
@TheArcher1014 ай бұрын
Can't mess up the room
@mrbriscoe200113 жыл бұрын
the hammiest actor is probably the real Kirk..make em both do shakespeare.....
@Smeginator3 жыл бұрын
That’s where Shatner started anyway. “TO BE. OR NOT. TO BE.” Oh shit. Was Christopher Plummer Shatnering in Star Trek 6?
@robertmorris89972 жыл бұрын
"Rosebud"
@marchess286 Жыл бұрын
or recite "Lucy in the sky ...'
@FLAME4564 Жыл бұрын
@@Smeginator hah XD so true hehe so very true :)
@Benjiesbeenbetter.Ай бұрын
@@marchess286 Not in a primetime slot on TV!
@JohnBoulding2 ай бұрын
I would have asked "Capt Kirk how many yomen have you slept within the past solar month?'
@grf15Ай бұрын
What I love is that when Garth changes shape so does his clothing. How convenient!
@NoName-up5kw4 жыл бұрын
1:40 "Agreed Captain.....Captains."
@RSTI1913 жыл бұрын
Spock was just waiting for one them to go on about a Priceline commercial. That would have nailed it for him..
@robertmorris89972 ай бұрын
Oldsmobile?
@josephconder90746 жыл бұрын
The Wisdom of Solomon.
@garysouza77210 ай бұрын
Stun them both right away, but no dramatic climax.
@christopherpage46496 жыл бұрын
Couldn't Spock have asked Kirk a personal question like his last pon farr experience or who his parents are?
@exoplanet115 жыл бұрын
He tried that. First he asked (I think) about their last chess game. But Kirk probably doesn't remember chess moves the way Spock does. Then the next question that came to mind could be answered by almost anyone. Waiting was more logical....100% chance of success eventually.
@dropjawbertone5 жыл бұрын
The chess question was pre-discussed in this episode. Even Scotty was made aware of it on the ship. It was meant as a code before beaming up. Kirk was fully aware of it.
@itwontcomeout56783 жыл бұрын
I misread that as “his last porn star experience”
@jangtheconqueror3 жыл бұрын
@@itwontcomeout5678 Well, I suppose it's somewhat related lmao
@leanovak50223 жыл бұрын
@@itwontcomeout5678 same thing really...
@aliennotion28763 жыл бұрын
They're both wearing wigs and girdles; how can Spock possibly tell them apart?
@mr.wizard97853 жыл бұрын
Why didn't Spock just stun them both, right from the start? I know, I know, he delayed so we could have drama and action. Spock's eyebrow raise and look of bemusement upon encountering the two Kirks is priceless. That was always the best part of watching Star Trek as kid: the episodes where Shatner battles the villain mano-a-mano.
@JacobAnawalt3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that would have been the most logical expedient choice, like taking care of the heartbeat in the transporter room. Besides it was only stunning and they have medical gear to fix lots of stuff.
@Slashkamr Жыл бұрын
He couldn't shoot both when he entered they were standing too far apart...
@verentyee5413 Жыл бұрын
@@Slashkamr Not unless he set the phaser to wide-angle stun. Then again, that move gets employed in but a few _Star Trek_ episodes.
@Slashkamr Жыл бұрын
@@verentyee5413 Wasn't wide angle stun a ship maneuver at that stage?
@verentyee5413 Жыл бұрын
@@Slashkamr Not exclusively. In "The Return of the Archons," Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock used hand phasers on that setting to subdue the Beta III inhabitants during Landru's attack on the landing party via the Body. You are thinking of "A Piece of the Action," when Kirk ordered the _Enterprise_ to perform an orbital strike to neutralize Okmyx's and Krako's gangs.
@anderson0882 жыл бұрын
The one on the right is obviously a stunt double at least from the back.
@williamm3743 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing Shatner was able to evoke this episode during his momentary breakdown with the Trekkies.
@AlanSmitheeman3 жыл бұрын
I think it was another episode when a transporter malfunction made good Kirk and evil Kirk.
@robertmorris89972 ай бұрын
@@AlanSmitheeman Also the android duplicator.
@TheFlyingHeart3 ай бұрын
That stuntman had a very rare treat…he got to fight James T. Kirk….while BEING James T.Kirk!
@postbox420083 жыл бұрын
So.... I assume Spock shot to stun which caused the antagonist to reveal himself. That begs the question of why he did not stun them both and let it sort itself out. And that was a bone head move with the chair, Spock.
@hagamapama2 жыл бұрын
he was low key enjoying seeing his captain getting his butt kicked. Besides, Garth tiring him out would make him more susceptible to the stun
@annafinlayson36258 жыл бұрын
I agree with Spock the real captain Kirk would rather give his life than risk the ship and also you remember from a previous episode Spock said that striking an officer is a court marshal offence which he would probability want to avoid purely logical Arya daughter of Spock.
@michaelfawcett12976 жыл бұрын
Biblical reference. King Soloman and the two women who are in dispute over a baby.
@sallymiller49846 жыл бұрын
Yes I could not agree more, purely logical
@rdd2176 жыл бұрын
Anna Finlayson martial
@sallymiller49845 жыл бұрын
Michael Fawcett. Ya
@LeonCat Жыл бұрын
2:31 I love how Shatner covers his stuntman's face
@dirdib692 ай бұрын
Spock: One of you is clearly a stunt double. *shoots stunt double*
@Roboticgladiator3 жыл бұрын
Stun them both and see which one changes. Or a mind meld would do too.
@varthelm2 ай бұрын
TWISHE......Spock stuns both walking in :)
@srb98 жыл бұрын
No Spock's logic is correct.
@thenebulasystem82515 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic show.
@PlasmaCoolantLeak7 ай бұрын
It's the one on your left, Spock! The Shatner stand-in! Stun him! 😁
@christopherharris49034 күн бұрын
Love the stunt doubles.😂😂😂
@deantheodosiou28866 ай бұрын
Gotta say, it's high time that casting found a stunt double with a really keen likeness to Shatner. It's really hard to tell them apart when they were wrestling, even though what you see of their faces is limited. Good thing Nimoy knew who to shoot. Otherwise, there goes TOS. 😂
@dennisparkin19712 ай бұрын
One of my favorite episodes
@andysahs15993 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a scene in Star Trek VI when Martia the shape shifter turns into Kirk's double and the Klingons try to determine which is the real Kirk. of course this came first .
@drewsarkisian93756 ай бұрын
Garth's fabulous wardrobe, obviously.
@Traderjoe Жыл бұрын
Epic body double selection!
@DavidLS12 жыл бұрын
Why not just ask Kirk what he had for dinner last night?
@lipranditoys6 жыл бұрын
They should sing Rocket Man in chorus.
@blockmasterscott6 жыл бұрын
I cannot stop laughing. That's hilarious!
@MORE15004 жыл бұрын
Or Double Vision by Foreigner.
@georgehenderson77834 жыл бұрын
liprandi That would definitely put me in the hospital 😁
@BedsitBob4 жыл бұрын
Get them both to play the guitar. Shoot the one who doesn't sound like a ten-thumbed, tone-deaf, talent-less noise polluter.
@Imthealphaawooooo3 жыл бұрын
@@BedsitBob Is that a Red Dwarf reference I see? I absolutely love the show!!😃 ( I know you wrote this comment a while ago, so you might not even see this but I just had to reply)
@brianarbenz72063 жыл бұрын
This was like Star Trek meets The Patty Duke Show.
@whatisawwhenisaw3322 Жыл бұрын
I think Spock could have assumed that the "Kirk" who lunged at and struck him as he tried to sit down was Captain Garth. 🙂
@paulchapman60311 ай бұрын
Yes, but it seems that Spock was turned around by the blow and by the time he looked back, the two Kirks were fighting it out. He couldn't tell which of the two had hit him.
@whatisawwhenisaw332211 ай бұрын
@@paulchapman603 Fair enough 🙂
@drewsarkisian93756 ай бұрын
@@whatisawwhenisaw3322 Also, Plot Armor.
@DKaldas3 жыл бұрын
Thought the Kirks, when they were fighting on the floor, would roll around and rollover Spock. It was like a prelude to the Kirks fight in ST VI: The Undiscovered Country.
@teddygee78594 жыл бұрын
The fake Kirk reminds me of the two women in the Bible when they both claimed that the baby 👶 was their. The fake mother said told Solomon to kill the baby & the other said spare it. The fake Kirk said shoot yet the real one said shoot us both to ensure the safety of the enterprise. Classic moment.
@williambagley54153 жыл бұрын
I grew up on TOS...I love it 😊
@michaellalli76937 ай бұрын
I just finished season one Star Trek TOS. On to season two. One of Best TV series of the 60s!
@TheFlyingHeart3 ай бұрын
Spock! Look at us from behind! We look very different from the rear!
@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Жыл бұрын
Kirk on Kirk violence!
@steveoh9285 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@altrag3748 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how the effect of having two Captain Kirks in the same room was achieved? I imagined that 60s technology would've made this very difficult, but I'm not really sure. Also, I wonder if it's possible to keep note of who is who throughout the whole fight so we can know who was the actual Kirk as soon as Spock entered the room.
@patrickschulz2193 Жыл бұрын
For shots where you had to see Shatner's faces, I'd assume some sort of very literal splicing was used, but I'm no expert admittedly.
@andrewmcgee1001 Жыл бұрын
They called the technique a "split screen" where 2 different shots are joined together as one. If you'll notice in the scene Spock in the background and the 2 Kirks are in the foreground, it's Shatner and I'm guessing his stuntman I think Ed Paskey was his name with Shatner on the left and Paskey on the right. With them facing away they didn't need to use the split screen effect.
@larryclemens185010 ай бұрын
Split screen was popular in the sixties but the limitation was that there had to be a distinct vertical line separating the two shots comprising the actor protraying the twin. Also the audio from each character was more easily handled if presented sequentially. (Harder to edit otherwise) Fight scenes had to be choreographed and edited with a stunt double so that only the principle actor's face was shown at any time. Lots of work, but doable.
@majorlagg93219 ай бұрын
Deep fake
@macklee68372 жыл бұрын
2:40 Spock just chillin
@jamesgoines766310 ай бұрын
Agree with Spock. The fight scene was dragging. Let me take a seat, I have time.
@WilliBond0007 Жыл бұрын
these fight scenes, especially with Kirk, are the catalysts for every cripple fight we've ever watched
@drewsarkisian93756 ай бұрын
That's an insult to every cripple fight we've seen in South Park.
@mauriceredbird98112 жыл бұрын
"King to Queens Level 3?" "Fascinating" :-) ^_^
@jamespeters28593 жыл бұрын
It’s soooooo good, you forget you’re watching a short clip on KZbin. D’oh!
@kokolovitch5610 ай бұрын
This was an awesome scene here.
@coralroper68769 жыл бұрын
Captain Kirk, I presume.
@Woozler5543 жыл бұрын
Kirk revealed who he was with a King Solomon type of response.
Garth: Do you think it's attractive when Bugs Bunny dresses up like a girl bunny? Wayne: No. haha. NO. Spock: Highly illogical.
@GladiusTR2 жыл бұрын
Spock: this gun is on stun, I'll just shoot you both and figure it out later
@Dark_Rune2 жыл бұрын
2:27 when a fight breaks out on the short bus
@juhi81233 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite TOS episodes but I cannot determine why...
@BobBelson5 жыл бұрын
lord garth..master of all he surveyed
@PaulInPorirua3 жыл бұрын
Stun them both...
@stevenpilling53185 жыл бұрын
Good coordination.
@pamelareddington29146 жыл бұрын
My fsvorite funny scene when he turns into kirk an throes a fit
@tomf31504 жыл бұрын
Yup, classic Salomon King maneuver
@smalltownfella13536 жыл бұрын
The scene with two kirks from Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country is very very similar to this...
@sallymiller49846 жыл бұрын
yes I quit agree
@heedmywarning27925 жыл бұрын
but the shape shifter was Hot, Hot , Hooooooooot! Did I mention she was hot?
@Jokie1555 жыл бұрын
I want the chameloids back already. Discovery brought back the Orions, I say bring on the bronze-skinned beauties too!
@backwhenarmyoftwofirstcame28735 жыл бұрын
Love the obvious stunt double
@bertramattles1695Ай бұрын
It was very easy for Spock to tell which was the real Captain Kirk. Once he heard Kirk mention the safety of the ship he knew immediately who the real Captain was. Kirk above all only cares about his ship first everything else second.
@ericmadsen7470Ай бұрын
If I were Spock, I would have stunned them both and wait. It would same the logical thing to do given the fact that I wouldn't know how was the real Captain Kirk.
@neneshubby8 күн бұрын
Every captain on TOS other than Captain Kirk is batsh*t crazy
@hadb90844 күн бұрын
Wish i could fall and place the furniture back upright at the same time.
@johndamenillusionist43423 жыл бұрын
Kirk: Spock...How did you know? Spock: Just had to wait and shoot the one whose face I never actually saw during the fight Captain.
@mikechet492 жыл бұрын
Spock should have stunned both of them when he walked in. No permanent harm would come to Kirk. But then we wouldn’t be able to watch Kirk fight with himself.
@cytone1013 жыл бұрын
The real Kirk should of done a drop kick. No one else in the universe can pull off that move.
@Bacopa6810 ай бұрын
@@apsoypike1956 Pillow Blindness. Remember the GIF set? And honestly interlocking fingers of both hands for a mega hit will give you no range and break your fingers if you actually land a blow.
@scottsmith30566 ай бұрын
Looooord.Garth!
@texasrockshillcountry65742 жыл бұрын
Cool scene!
@PaperbackWizard9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of an episode of "Karate Kat" where he's fighting his evil double. The Smart Guy of the series knocks out the evil double, and Karate Kat asks him how he could tell which was the right one. Smart Guy says "Oh, it was easy. I knocked out the one who was winning."
@catman3513 жыл бұрын
Ah! The “two Kirk” scenario. Repeated in “The Undiscovered Country.”
@tf1090c9 ай бұрын
The effect is surprisingly good for 1968
@simval844 ай бұрын
It seems to me the logical choice, since you have a phaser with a stun setting, is to shoot both anyway. It's not like you're killing them.