Star Trek VS Babylon 5 (W.I.P)(Edited)

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Lex TheLegend

Lex TheLegend

3 жыл бұрын

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@alwindigital5796
@alwindigital5796 2 жыл бұрын
1. ST's photon and quantum torpedoes have anti-matter warheads 2. ST has transporter technology: they can simply bean warheads aboard enemy ships, if not boarding parties and other 3. Energy shields and impulse drives 4. Phaser banks that can quickly target enemy ships at almost 360 degree angles (depending on coverage) 5. Warp capability without needing to open a hyperspace gate
@BrianKatakowski
@BrianKatakowski 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, B5 ships wouldn't stand a chance against a starfleet vessel. A grain of sand would hit like rail gun on steroids while a starship was traveling at warp speeds, but does nothing to their navigational shields. The only thing that a B5 jump drive equipped ship could do is hope to damage or cripple a starfleet vessel with the "bonehead maneuver" (opening a second jump point in a active jump gate and run, most likely not fast enough hence bonehead).
@pfksr64
@pfksr64 2 жыл бұрын
OK, then Lita will wipe all their minds and leave them screaming in a fetal position.
@BrianKatakowski
@BrianKatakowski 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfksr64 I will see Lita Alexander and raise you Guinan. In the words of John Sheridan "Your not the only one thats been touched by the Vorlons!" Or in Guinan's case the nexus. Also Guinan is a "bit" more handy with a phaser than John is with a PPG.
@alwindigital5796
@alwindigital5796 2 жыл бұрын
@@pfksr64 ST universe also has telepaths. Perhaps not as strong as telepaths are portrayed in BS5 universe, but probably strong enough to block BS5 telepaths. And Data is an android, immune to telepaths.
@thomas.parnell7365
@thomas.parnell7365 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianKatakowski that be a good scene seeing guinan repelling border's with her rifle in 10 forward shouting insult s .at them
@alexdavis-mann8513
@alexdavis-mann8513 2 жыл бұрын
yer im a huge B5 fan but the tech difference would be insurmountable. shadows and vorlons might give them some trouble though.
@craigstalmer2825
@craigstalmer2825 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@verdebusterAP
@verdebusterAP 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigstalmer2825 Not really In Stargate universe, the Wraith countered Asgard beaming by jamming In Trek, it has been shown that there are ways to jam transporters without shields So yes initially B5 would have problems but they can learn to counter
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
@@verdebusterAP This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@TheTimelord62
@TheTimelord62 9 ай бұрын
I think B5 with its white star fleet would take out alot of ST ships. The white stars must be the one of the best ships in both universe's. It just looks the part.
@thayes42
@thayes42 9 ай бұрын
Add a couple of Mimbari heavy cruisers and a Vorlon or two and this would be a short fight.
@AndersonNeo12
@AndersonNeo12 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of comments about the shields, in case someone is wondering: "Shields won`t be installed until Tuesday!" That´s why i just gonna lean back and enjoy this Science Fiction crossover epicness. ps.: That Earthcruiser is called "Backgammon" :D 6:08
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This YT video was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babel 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody... or at least ... was that the name? I quite forgot after reading the comments). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@anonymouskaos7175
@anonymouskaos7175 2 жыл бұрын
What killed me throughout the entire video was the fact that the sovereign class the most advanced starship in Starfleet got destroyed but the original Connie refit was still going like wait what I'm so confused right now
@etorres4u
@etorres4u 2 жыл бұрын
The nerd in me calls BS. Starfleet ships had shields, phasers, quantum torpedos and in many cases ablative armor. The B5 ships had inferior weapons and no shielding. Notice how no star fleet ships seemed to have any shielding? They had to nerf them in order to make it an even fight. Star fleet would have absolutely annihilated the B5 ships with barely a scratch.
@marcdonnellan8730
@marcdonnellan8730 2 жыл бұрын
All starfleet ships lost shields after going through the worm hole. Probably to level playing field.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade. So that shows how even walmart copies of star trek ships can still give a run of their money agaisnt the non-First Ones set of ships.
@greggg4011
@greggg4011 Жыл бұрын
Is strong original with the winner. As shown in most of these videos Babylon 5 ships are able to intercept coming torpedo's .
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
@@greggg4011 Except at FTL speeds, obviously XD
@greggg4011
@greggg4011 Жыл бұрын
You know I'm glad you said that because I never paid attention to scanner ranges...what is their scanner range?
@user-fg7fy1mn4y
@user-fg7fy1mn4y Жыл бұрын
It would be fairer if 50 Minbari "Sharlin" appeared at the end of the battle😆
@randybaumery5090
@randybaumery5090 10 ай бұрын
Star trek next generation ships would wreak havoc on the Earthforce but would get slammed by the older races technology in Babylon 5.
@bscar
@bscar 2 жыл бұрын
"Info, get me tactical information. Dwarf, fire twinklers and light balls!" - Captain Pirk
@Jonno92100
@Jonno92100 3 жыл бұрын
Ingenious use of Star Trek: Legacy audio and effects. I can definitely appreciate the time and effort that went into re-dubbing this animation.
@thomasanderson3459
@thomasanderson3459 Жыл бұрын
Redesigned, refitted for...... ..soo could still look pretty for you??,
@DonnieTNJ
@DonnieTNJ Жыл бұрын
this should have gone like this: "Captain!...They are now locking lasers on us.......lasers? Yes sir......Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields don't they know that?".....Regulations do call for a yellow alert....hmmm A very old regulation.....Well make it so number one...and reduce speed. Drop main shields as well.... May I ask why sir?....In case we decide to surrender to them Number One....*worf growl*"
@boloblade2
@boloblade2 2 жыл бұрын
Loved how the Excalibur was smart enough to cripple Voyager first.
@burstcity3832
@burstcity3832 10 ай бұрын
Yet it wasn't derstroyed for some reason..oh thats right Star trek is awesome woooo
@Ellis_Hugh
@Ellis_Hugh 11 ай бұрын
Starfleet firepower would likely decimate anything that the humans of B5 could come up with, especially without shields (why did the Federation ships lose shields at the beginning of this?). The Defiant vs. a White Star would be interesting though, and you can't have B5 properly represented without the Mimbari showing up. Dalen appearing with a Mimbari fleet and sending them on their way would have been a fantastic way to end this showdown.
@SonicSlicer
@SonicSlicer 11 ай бұрын
my guess is that the Jump Gate overloaded the Shield Emitters, also, would the Minbari destroy ships so close to B5 especially when we have a fair idea of what warp core breaches do, and they would too upon the Galaxy class ship exploding...man..Keogh just can't catch a break.
@TheOtherGuys2
@TheOtherGuys2 11 ай бұрын
Two points I'd say to the question of why the Federation ships don't have shields. I remember fondly back in the day, debating Star Trek vs everything else, and I went pretty deep into it. Federation ships seem to frequently lose their shields as soon as a big battle starts. See DS9: Sacrifice of Angels, or the battles of Wolf 359 and Sector 001. Between the three battles, I only saw two Federation ships take shield hits, one being the Enterprise E. I suspect in large, pitched battles, most ships redirect shield power to weapons, or more likely my second thought: Federation shield tech operates by using a phase modulation field, which blocks the wave patterns of things like lasers, phasers and photonic weapons, unless the weapon frequency matches. However, that really only works on light-based weapons. Again, lasers, phasers (photon-microwave lasers), and photon torpedoes. They are notably worse, if even capable of it at all, at blocking plasma based weapons. Disruptors in Star Trek are, as I understand it, plasma particle weapons that are carried by laser/phaser beams. Babylon 5 ships appear to use plasma based weapons, without laser carriers. Side note: Star Wars weapons, despite being called 'lasers', behave in such a way as to indicate that they're not lasers, but also plasma weapons. Edit: I see there's some dialogue included talking about the shield loss. I dunno what caused that in the original video, or if the dialogue was added to explain it. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in the dialogue, as it's ridiculously inconsistent.
@lexthelegend1455
@lexthelegend1455 11 ай бұрын
@@TheOtherGuys2 I get that but the 3 examples you used aren't the best Sacrifice of Angels, the Dominion already knew how to punch through federation shielding. If the defiant mentioned shields in dialogue then I can only assume either slip-up for budget For Wolf 359, using Picard's knowledge, the Borg were able to bypass Federation shields entirely and one tap ships at will. At first contact, those ships were fighting for several days straight, we can only presume each of those starfleet vessels were already heavily battle damaged, I.E. the Defiant, as she was fighting at almost every line the Borg had approached.
@TheOtherGuys2
@TheOtherGuys2 11 ай бұрын
@@lexthelegend1455 At Wolf 359, Picard wouldn't have known each individual ship's shield frequency. I think in that case the Borg just overpowered the Federation ships. But even so, their shields ostensibly should have been there to be overpowered. Anyway, those are the only big fleet battles in Star Trek I can think of. Do you have other examples? (I haven't actually seen most of DS9, to be fair.)
@johnd.1618
@johnd.1618 10 ай бұрын
@@TheOtherGuys2 I think the reason for not giving shields to Federation ships is obvious. It would have been a boring bloodbath if Federation ships where using their shields. Without shields is a more balanced battle. And no one, NO ONE will choose to lower shields in the middle of a battle. Also the idea of plasma weapons bypassing shields comes with a logical error. if shields where incapable of stopping plasma weapons, then everyone in the Star Trek Universe would be switching to plasma weapons or at least putting a few of those next to their standard torpedoes and phasers. Then in the battle, first destroy enemy shield generators with a plasma beam, then finish enemy ship with all weapons available.
@mightylubu
@mightylubu Ай бұрын
Bro had to give the federation ships a handicap, if he didnt they'd solo'd no diff
@ultramagnus8240
@ultramagnus8240 2 жыл бұрын
You mean to tell me that Geordi laforge, B'Elanna Torres & the space wizard himself Miles O'Brien wasn't able to get those shields back online!?! BS!
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@stanleydavidson6543
@stanleydavidson6543 Жыл бұрын
Shields don't work in Babylon 5 universe
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
@@stanleydavidson6543 are you referrying to what the parody said or the real deal? Because in the real Babylon 5 universe we see Vorlon Dreadnoughts and the Thirdspace aliens have shield technology, bubble style like the federation.
@fitzroymarcano4565
@fitzroymarcano4565 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@mackgiver875
@mackgiver875 2 жыл бұрын
4:30 Jesus that many photon torpedoes would have blown up the entire 1st and 2nd season of Babylon 5 lol.
@porpus99
@porpus99 2 жыл бұрын
The closest comparison from Star Trek I can think of offhand is when the Romulans and Cardassians attacked the 'Founders Homeworld'. 30 percent of the planetary crust was destroyed in the opening volley. Hell of a lot of damage. Realistically I think Earth Force, even with the help of the Rangers, are pretty much screwed.
@JoeL-yq1iv
@JoeL-yq1iv Жыл бұрын
Except Earth Alliance ships are armed with point defense that can shoot down incoming energy bursts. They are specifically the only B5 star nation to have such weaponry. Torpedos should be mostly useless except for the odd lucky hit. Phasers, on the other hand, should cut through EA vessels like crazy.
@Cain-x
@Cain-x 3 жыл бұрын
It is INSANE that the animations and FX were made in 2005 - kudos to that team.
@Theman122082
@Theman122082 2 жыл бұрын
Judging by a lot of these comments, many of you have never seen star wreck in the pirkinning. It was a fanfilm made by a couple guys in Finland way back in 2005. The original version was free.. when they decided to release a dvd of it.. and make actual money, they had to redo all of the special effects with new ships/stations. So pretty much what you are seeing is now 15-16year old effects.. pretty good for back then actually.
@ernstboyd8745
@ernstboyd8745 2 жыл бұрын
those rotating sections of the earth force ship would make turning a bear. - like gyroscopes
@BBFPV
@BBFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Lasers? They not even penetrate our nav. shield...
@dmacbass
@dmacbass 2 жыл бұрын
What lasers? Ain't no frigging lasers here.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade. Plus while the Earth Alliance ships may have lasers, they have other weapons which may work, like Phased Plasma Bolts. It's the technology they used for their PPGs, albeit I don't see them using it because their version is built so it doesn't hurt metallic hulls and only organic materials. And other races weapons liek the Vorlon beam may have worked.
@jrjefferson01
@jrjefferson01 2 жыл бұрын
why are they fighting in the first place? not really esablished
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
@chriscjongeneelen2960
@chriscjongeneelen2960 2 жыл бұрын
This apparently nods to an second variant of the Terran empire ( originally in the 1966 original series under the episode “mirror mirror “ ) but this variant Terran empire , which was created by the idea of the Soviets had won the Cold War and ended up creating their own variant of the federation, that used trans warp to attack the Babylon 5 station ( where the ships are dark alternate universe versions of iconic ships up to enterprise E , starship status wise ) despite the fact this attack failed it throws an monkey wrench into new series canon information, to find out there’s an second Terran empire that never Fell to the Klingon/ cardassian alliance as was canon referenced in The DS9 series but this one is one that wasn’t ever defeated in that alternate dark mirror universe…
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). But yeah, it seems as if it did a nod to asecond variant of the Terran Empire - only far less murderous towards superiors.
@robertbruce7497
@robertbruce7497 Жыл бұрын
---- They also made "Iron Sky" movie about ww2 survivors of 3rd Reich hiding in a moonbase on the dark side of the moon(?). ----
@masere
@masere Жыл бұрын
Red Five standing by. Red October standing by. Red Buttons standing by.
@JoshuaFare
@JoshuaFare Ай бұрын
Red Fox standing by
@shadowsoldier2173
@shadowsoldier2173 4 ай бұрын
You can tell that whoever made this was a Star Trek fan boy because the B5 security personnel just charge out into an open hallway to get shot when B5 has never done this
@tarn1135
@tarn1135 4 ай бұрын
Did you not watch severed dreams?
@kimnice
@kimnice 2 ай бұрын
Well these videos (not audio) is from a parody movie "Star Wreck: In the Pirking". In this movie at one point they beam down a "red shirt" to see if the planet below is habitable (obviously it wasn't). Due to communication issue one Trek-captain transfers photon torpedos filled with light beer to their main ship and their attempt to take down Excalibur goes horribly wrong. Of course we have "Sheridan" giving speech to his crew on command deck and him missing the start of the fight.
@ServantOfOdin
@ServantOfOdin 11 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes, I forgot about this gem.... Guys, calm down. It's from a Finnish fanmovie made several years ago called Star Wreck: In the Pirkining. It's about an overly ambitious but equally often overstepped captain Pirk who somehow gets trapped in Starfleets past and decides to reshape the Federation into what he considers to be a more efficient government: a brutally (inefficient and incompetent) authoritarian dictatorship with him as the big boss. By random accident, the rustbucket of the fleet (their term for the Constitution-class, under the command of a Russian by the name of Fukov) runs across an alien vessel, and as per orders from Emperor Pirk, shoot it down. The fleet moves out and in the other universe runs into Babel 13 under the command of Captain Cherrypie, the overly dramatic dreamer who likes to hear himself talk, but is otherwise the very opposite of Pirk. Pirk and Cherrypie hate each other and decide to blow each other up, which the Psy-Corps honcho Festerbester (who commands the Excalibur-class Excavator) is not very keen happy with. The rest can be seen here and I will not spoil where Pirk and his crew (along with their Data version called Info and the primitively aggressive officer Dwarf) end up at the end.
@Baby_Valentine
@Baby_Valentine 8 ай бұрын
Babylon 5 is using effectively gunpowder weapons for point defense and lasers as heavy weapons. There is a TNG episode that specifically mentions that lasers cant penetrate the navigation shields. As much as i like B5,they stand no chance vs the Federation, probably no chance vs a single Federation ship.
@David-jt9nt
@David-jt9nt 8 ай бұрын
thats why right near the begining they made a big deal of their sheilds not working after the trip though
@Leondrius
@Leondrius 7 ай бұрын
Those are particle beams, not lasers.
@shadowsoldier2173
@shadowsoldier2173 4 ай бұрын
Not a lot of the weapons in the start in B5 are particle weapons and if anybody remembers when the orbital defense grid was turned against Earth those guns are the same guns that are on the Omega class destroyers
@Annihilator2point0
@Annihilator2point0 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Star Fleet got one hell of a handicap losing shield from the get go.
@dmacbass
@dmacbass 2 жыл бұрын
And they still stepped up pretty well.
@Andrewcranky
@Andrewcranky 2 жыл бұрын
Jon Luc Picard would never fire first without lagitimit cause and provocation. He would seek a diplimatic resalution first
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
@djspbb
@djspbb Ай бұрын
I have a question, why did they decide they were enemies? All these my favorite universe is better than that universe. It's like Marvel and DC, there is no reason for them to fight, but fanboys demand blood.
@ISAF_Ace
@ISAF_Ace 2 жыл бұрын
incredible job, I absolutely love watching the two best sci-fi franchises duke it out
@ratedr8490
@ratedr8490 2 жыл бұрын
Two best? Farscape? Stargate? Old dr who? Old star wars? Battlestar Galactica? Not knocking star trek or Babylon 5 they are great Sci fi... but the best is definitely in the eye of the beholder 😉.
@dr.garretsshow
@dr.garretsshow 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing this animation several years ago. on one hand its very well made, on the other the Federation is several times more advanced than the B5 earth aliance.
@Jred091
@Jred091 Ай бұрын
What we expected the Dominion war would be.
@thomasmardock2119
@thomasmardock2119 2 жыл бұрын
How is this better than anything we’ve seen on the show? Well done!
@YunoGasaiMC2012
@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love the sound effects that you edited for the Babylon 5 weapons, especially with the Omega-class at 8:16 and the Victory-class here at 9:39 Can I get the KZbin link for the sounds?
@lexthelegend1455
@lexthelegend1455 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I lost the file for the victory, but I have the omega beam here that or do you mean if you want all weapon sfx? drive.google.com/file/d/1VF0-0xTKPojsXyQDKAkG8t_pD3H1fZ6o/view?usp=sharing
@YunoGasaiMC2012
@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexthelegend1455 I guess I need all.
@lexthelegend1455
@lexthelegend1455 2 жыл бұрын
@@YunoGasaiMC2012 that will take some time But it will be done
@YunoGasaiMC2012
@YunoGasaiMC2012 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexthelegend1455 Ok, nevermind, I found some Babylon 5 and Star Trek sounds by my own search and made my own Babylon 5 vs Star Trek memes. Although I really need help with something; I'm planning on making a meme where a certain popular cringe Minecraft YoutTuber gets bombarded by a Minecraft version of the USS Enterprise-E. All I need is just the sound of 1. Sisko saying "threat neutralized" at 6:46 2. The guy saying "we've achieved our objective" at 6:58 3. And Janeway saying "goodwork, our mission objective has been achieved" at 15:48
@willadeefriesland5107
@willadeefriesland5107 10 ай бұрын
When an entire fleet loses shields, the vessels with ablative armor should take point. Flank the enemy with the larger ships and punch holes in enemy grouping with the smaller ones... Rip them a new one, the Straczynski shot first...
@josephfilm73
@josephfilm73 2 жыл бұрын
As I remember correctly, that big long cruiser was a result of Vorlon technology. That ship alone would have done far more damage to the little tiny ships. I tend to think ST had random firepower based on the situation. Sometimes they could wipe out an entire planet. Other times they couldn't destroy a Ferengi vessel. It varied by the story writer. Since JMS was the person who did B5, it was much less random. But the big thing is that the ST ships could maneuver without regard to physics (they turn like airplanes). This fact alone would make them hard to hit. Very few of them would be taken out. Because shields, warp drive, and their propulsion system is based in fantasy than real known physics, ST always wins any battle. They could have a few ships warp in, launch a few quantum torpedos, then get out, and keep this up. You can never do a space battle scene with any meaning when one side that tries to conform to the known laws of physics vs one that does not. The ships from the Expanse would be wiped out even quicker.
@tiborinna
@tiborinna 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you consider, that Vorlons didnt even have transporter technology, and energy shields, not mentioning other far superior technologies from star trek, i need to disagree with you. Simply said, if we discount, that the Vorlons were energy based life forms, in technological level they were actually behind the Federation and that includes bio technology, which supposed to be the Tech of the Vorlons. These two tech worlds can not be compared. What would Q or the Borg do to the B5 uni then?
@burstcity3832
@burstcity3832 10 ай бұрын
@@tiborinna Startrek requires physics to dissapear, for you to believe crap.
@tiborinna
@tiborinna 10 ай бұрын
@@burstcity3832 your right, its all silly crap, but considering, that ST has artificial gravity, and mimbari ships too, both are breaking the laws of physics somehow.
@spadesofpaintstudios1719
@spadesofpaintstudios1719 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I enjoyed seeing a constitution with a sovereign class ship on screen with their respective roles. The over all battle was very Intense and brutal.
@jackjames7113
@jackjames7113 2 жыл бұрын
Should have called in the Rangers, but truth be told the minbari were suppose to be there because they were the reason for the station to be created in the first place
@lavern007
@lavern007 8 ай бұрын
WTF? Why would a starship fire on a fighter, a lone fighter that had tech? Anything after that is not Star Fleet.
@bradphippsnz
@bradphippsnz 2 жыл бұрын
The original is such a great movie. The dialogue is hilarious.
@ericbrammer2245
@ericbrammer2245 2 жыл бұрын
Total "BERMAN" Tactical Stoopidness. Just as Effective as the Florida Gov. on Covid! JUST WARP AWAY, Circle, then talk/or/Kill. Idiots at War, need killing. Or Covid without masks..
@Armadacon
@Armadacon 8 ай бұрын
Star Wreck is a great film. Far more of a fun film than Iron Sky.
@darlenedowie3707
@darlenedowie3707 10 ай бұрын
The Picard I knew would not have fired on the Babylon 5 fighter ship but brought it on broad the Enterprise.
@florianmaschke269
@florianmaschke269 8 ай бұрын
Well... This was somewhat fun to watch. It's a little off because the tech is different. B5 is a little more "down to earth" and Star Trek always... well it's Star Trek. With energy shields and energy based weapons a fleet of Starfleet vessels should have no problems creaming this combined fleet of Omega's, White Stars and Starfuries. I don't count the Excalibur to B5 because I hate that ugly thing. B5 weapons are based on laser and plasma weapons and fusion warheads. This should prove very ineffective against modern shields and the strong hull design of cruiserlike ships like the Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior or Ambassador-Classes. It's really hard to compare these two francises against each other because the tech is so different. The fact that the jump gate or the singularity disables the shields in order to make this "battle" fun is a litte weird. This situation is unfair and not to mention unrealistic. Since when is Captain Picard a ruthless warmonger? Ok ok.. it Mirror Universe.. still I have a time imagine Captain Picard as a bad guy. But... I pay good money to see Janeway suffer.. just a little. A better comparison would be BSG against The Expense. Both using kinetic weapons and rockets, thick armour plating and more realistic physics if there is such a thing in Science Fiction... A fight between a battlestar and MCRN Battleship would be interesting. A little critique on the side...next time please use the full array of weapons for the B5 side. The Omega destroyer are extremely well armed with guns, cannons, mines and rockets. Something we never saw in the series because of the small budget. I'd love to see a big barrage of rocket broadsides. And B5 was upgraded with a pretty neat weapons platform in 2259 for better protection against capital ships. You used only the secondary defence grid here. Ok... enough of it. That was my two cents on that subject. Thanks for this video.
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 8 ай бұрын
For the ships from B5, their main weapons are near enough aimed straight ahead at all times where as for star Trek ships, each weapon has arcs, (left and right & up and down) that it can fire in. If the Borg had battled the B5 ships, the B5 ships would have all been assimilated very quickly after the start of a battle
@douglasroberts8301
@douglasroberts8301 7 ай бұрын
Why would Shields on all ships fail ?? It's the same universe same laws of physics
@jaifreejairiencompri
@jaifreejairiencompri 7 ай бұрын
yeah whit shield b5 they lose so badly
@apuokasdrevenassilentdevil6873
@apuokasdrevenassilentdevil6873 2 ай бұрын
another Unicerse, another physics laws.
@Ama-hi5kn
@Ama-hi5kn 3 ай бұрын
I was always wondering why the Starfleet ships went down so easily. Then it was explained to me that shields are inoperable in the B5 universe. And it all made sense.
@draigygoch
@draigygoch 2 жыл бұрын
Highly convenient starfleet shields stopped working...hmmm
@Hammern28
@Hammern28 Жыл бұрын
Look, this was a film made for fun, for the heck of it. Two different universes, just tossed into one, and going at it. Starting technical debates on who would win, this and that and so on, is just silly. Take it for what it is, simple fun.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
The video is based from a comedy/parody movie called Star Wreck in the Pirkining everything is explained there. All the "Starfleet" ships you see are actually 21st century shallow copies taken from the memories of a wannabe Data and constructe with Russian machinery. And the Babylon 5 parody timeline (in the movie) is wrecked because we can see a Vorlon and the Excalibur within days. So yeah just enjoy the fun (albeit the full movie explained a lot more, it's like the Harry Potter books, the movies condensing the action makes holes appear which weren't in the book).
@Kitsudragon
@Kitsudragon 11 ай бұрын
It says something that they couldn't fight "fairly" until the shields were retconned out of the combat. Not to mention the Russian Federation, which basically behaved just like the Russians do today. They also died like the Russians do today, so I suppose they get points for accuracy...
@kineticdeath
@kineticdeath 8 ай бұрын
the flagship would have self destructed due to some ensign smoking in the torpedo tubes
@Thirdbase9
@Thirdbase9 3 ай бұрын
A single Runabout would likely defeat the entire Babylon 5 universe. B5 human ships work with physics, they can't make the sorts of turns and stops and starts a Federation ship can. B5 weapons are also a joke compared to Federation weapons, using lasers and projectiles. Arbitrarily removing all shielding from Federation ships means there is no fight, without the Navigation Shields Federation ships can't travel, and they will stop lasers.
@policepatrol3230
@policepatrol3230 3 ай бұрын
If they put Voyager's Transphasic Torpedo's, Defiant's Phaser Cannons and Enterprise's Quantum's, the battle would be over before it even started
@Ama-hi5kn
@Ama-hi5kn 3 ай бұрын
Nanoprobes and other Borg tech is the solution to all problems.
@alinmeleandra3175
@alinmeleandra3175 2 ай бұрын
@@Ama-hi5kn You need to see B5 to understand why is not so clear-cut... I've seen both, I think EA you shit on Federation for the main reason that EA is actually developed as a fighting force not an exploration force.
@TheEventHorizon909
@TheEventHorizon909 2 ай бұрын
TBF we do see the Defiants phaser cannons and the Transphasic torpedos could just mean this is a pre-badlands incident voyager. Quantums would absolutely have changed the matchup
@BigKnGa
@BigKnGa Ай бұрын
​@TheEventHorizon909 you'd actually have to watch the original video from where this was taken. Guy time travels and by some miracle ends up during earth's WW1 or 2 and has I think a connie. Anyway, he ends up conquering earth as a dictator and begins building all the ships from the federation 23rd and 24th century. He takes his fleet through a fissure and ends up in the Babylon 5 universe and the fight happens. By the end of it all no one survives. Look up Star Wrek and you should see it subtitled
@dracopendragon6829
@dracopendragon6829 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice the ships names didn't correspond to the audio?
@kaneko.ayano.20X
@kaneko.ayano.20X 2 жыл бұрын
Because this is originally a Finnish parody where Picard is portrayed as an incompetent emperor.
@Icantfindtheanykey
@Icantfindtheanykey 2 жыл бұрын
This was excellent. Not perfect. Far from but still much better than most of what I find on TV these days. Great work and hope you make more soon.
@ErnestoBrausewind
@ErnestoBrausewind 2 жыл бұрын
Cut scene: "This is Ambassador Delenn of the Minbari - Babylon 5 is under our protection.... .... If you value your life, be somewhere else."
@ErnestoBrausewind
@ErnestoBrausewind 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaeWpWtsntKmeqs
@xxan84
@xxan84 2 жыл бұрын
No shields for ST does not sound fair :) Also from what I remember Babylon's young races did not have energy shields so ST guys can just beam everyone into space :) That said, really good animation.
@anonymousperson3153
@anonymousperson3153 2 жыл бұрын
Torpedoes + Transporters + target the right place = instant destruction of ANY problematic ship.
@miguelgarr576
@miguelgarr576 2 жыл бұрын
And ST don't have any telephatic crew! The B5 telepath just could made all the ST crew kill there self!
@xxan84
@xxan84 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelgarr576 If you bring unique individuals like that into discussion Star Trek has a Q human, Rogers. You can imagine she snaps her fingers and the entire B5 universe ceases to exist. Hell even Wesley's ability to channel though itself and manipulate reality itself and it would be to much. Then ST also has AI's who are not going to be effected by telepaths (like the Doctor from Voyager).
@lexthelegend1455
@lexthelegend1455 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelgarr576 vulcans Betazoids those are the prominent ones
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This YT video was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babel 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody... or at least ... was that the name? I quite forgot after reading the comments). And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@corbanb5
@corbanb5 2 жыл бұрын
Star Trek 2364 to about 2409 while Babylon 5 is based between 2259 - 2262. Star-Trek has tech from hundreds of races working together while they fight against a race that doesn't even have artificial gravity. such a ridiculous comparison. Still fun to watch.
@scottbraun2457
@scottbraun2457 2 жыл бұрын
With STAR FLEET'S shields powers nullified, TREK ships just solid and fragile, as EARTH ALIANCE ships. Makes it virtually an even match.
@darkage5
@darkage5 Жыл бұрын
This video is an edit of Star Wreck the Pirkening. Doesn't anyone read the comments??? Especially the one pinned by the author? The original this was taken from was made before KZbin was even around.
@Ama-hi5kn
@Ama-hi5kn Ай бұрын
Fukooooov! I rembember this parody from 2005 or so. Seems such a long time ago.
@tylergibbs3869
@tylergibbs3869 Ай бұрын
No worrys, Humans ar still humans, no matter what the date. at least for 10,000 years. Any pearson who claims to be "enlighted" By AI is in a mistaken state of mind.
@leeroberts1192
@leeroberts1192 2 жыл бұрын
The Starfleet armada would easily obliterate the B5 ships, just beam a torpedo next to a B5 ships engine core and detonate or if using any ship from Star Trek, just send in a handful of Borg cubes
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@kaneko.ayano.20X
@kaneko.ayano.20X 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao! The Excalibur is called Excavator.
@TheOtherGuys2
@TheOtherGuys2 11 ай бұрын
1:44 ...USS Thunderchild? Not one I'd want to mess with, that one. :D For those not in the know, HMS Thunderchild was a Royal Navy cruiser (described as a torpedo rammer, but based on evidence incorrectly so.) who, during the Martian invasion of 1898, single-handedly engaged and destroyed no less than three of the Martian tripods before being overwhelmed.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
This 'episode should be subtitled: *_"EVERYBODY_** HAS A **_SH*TTY DAY"_* 😊😊😊😊
@HacksignKT
@HacksignKT Жыл бұрын
hehe yup
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman Жыл бұрын
@@HacksignKT >>> 😊😊😊
@timothymallon
@timothymallon Жыл бұрын
I love both universes, but the White Stars would destroy Starfleet, no questions asked. Especially with Ivonova at the helm....God sent her!
@nathanielhellerstein5871
@nathanielhellerstein5871 Жыл бұрын
A Minbari Sharlin ship would make short work of the Starfleet fleet, who wouldn't even get a target lock. And a Vorlon ship? Forget it. And a Shadow battlecrab? Forget it!
@jamesroberts8894
@jamesroberts8894 Жыл бұрын
Disagree. Federation technology far outstrips anything in B5. Proof of that was evidenced the moment they arbitrarily stripped every ST ship of its deflector screens. Without that gimme, it's a one sided blowout in favor of ST.
@StarFleet_Tech1701
@StarFleet_Tech1701 Жыл бұрын
This was great! I am definitely a Star Trek fan and I loved B5 also. Each show has technical prowess above and beyond the other. I had always thought that StarFleet's benefits were its shields and warp drive. B5's benefits were its Minbari/Vorlon technology combined. To see them fight against each other made for a different storytelling experience.
@PabloNiklas
@PabloNiklas 10 ай бұрын
The Great Machine of Epsilon III could have oblirated the entire Starfleet.
@Locomotor1979
@Locomotor1979 2 жыл бұрын
By the way iff they still had there shields then Starfleet whould have won anyway but i think the defiants against the whitestars whould have bin a good match becausse both are more or less warvessel
@charlespfaff6585
@charlespfaff6585 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a space combat game where ships from different shows can be pitted against each other. But the licencing would be impossible.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 жыл бұрын
This is Already possible with mods for bridge commander and yes it is interesting.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the white star taking on the defiant. Yes, this has been done.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
@@jkeelsnc you took the words from my mouth - and I made some videos about that on my channel.
@chrisunique2253
@chrisunique2253 2 жыл бұрын
Lost shields before the fight even began? Guess you had to make it easier for the enemies? Lots of the flying in formation by the Federation ships didn't seem very plausible or the wasting of all of the torpedos. Ehhh 4/10 for the storyline
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force. And in that parody movie the "Federation" ships still won despite not being able to produce quantum torpedoes, not having shields and having substandard materials for the hull. The only reason all ships got destroyed was because Garibrandy (the parody's version of Garibaldi) activated the self-destruct of the station to deter the fake ST fleet from taking over, so when the fake ST fleet left, they would have turned the self-destruct, but at the last second Garibrandy tripped over and couldn't deactivate the sequence so everyone exploded - specially since the Constitution-lookalike comms were apparently damaged from one hell of a party and being already broken it couldn't warn the other ships to evade.
@kfireven
@kfireven 2 жыл бұрын
The battle scenes are actully pretty good here
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe I have to say this again when lots of other people did it already: this YT video is Star Trek Legacy sounds over scens of a movie whereeverything's explained: Star Wreck: In the Pirkining.
@stuartgrier5605
@stuartgrier5605 7 ай бұрын
B5 all the way. ST is how people want the future to be like, B5 is probably more accurate.
@funkydj1974
@funkydj1974 2 жыл бұрын
Taken from the film - Star Wreck ' In the Pirkinning ' Great spoof movie , and these battle scenes have been sampled loads of times over the years
@jean-lucmartel2933
@jean-lucmartel2933 2 жыл бұрын
Ya the genius Russian who made that was also responsible for Iron Skies. THAT COMRADE is a Legend! I love how he literally created a Soviet Terran Empire. And the ship names are Pure Comedy. YOu Got the Omega-Class Backgammon, the Victory-Class Mk V Excavator and plenty of other halarious names.
@abelgarcia5432
@abelgarcia5432 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy both franchises but if you want me to pick one, then B5. The worst B5 episode is better than the best Trek episode in both writing, acting paying homage to the Laws of Physics. DS9 is probably the best trek series.
@firexl007
@firexl007 Жыл бұрын
That was epic Star Wreck 🤣😂
@briankriens5645
@briankriens5645 10 ай бұрын
I love that this video looks remastered from what I saw originally over a decade ago. THank you.
@jan-erikstrm4497
@jan-erikstrm4497 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the scanners would show there were humans, not to mention civilians onboard. The federation wouldnt open fire on them for no reason. Also, no need for the shields to go down. Projectile weapons can bypass shields. Otherwise, it was a decent vid, watched it to the end.
@mackgiver875
@mackgiver875 2 жыл бұрын
Where in Star Trek have projectile weapons bypassed shields?
@starhaven1881
@starhaven1881 2 жыл бұрын
@@mackgiver875 Projectile weapons none that I can think of But Slow moving shuttles and the like have. Its possible some projectiles would if they were lucky. also its the deflectors not the Shields themselves that protect from projectiles. It would really depend on the writer I'd suspect.
@mackgiver875
@mackgiver875 2 жыл бұрын
@@starhaven1881 Deflectors are protection from space debris and minimal background radiation, shields are for more dangerous energy, radiation, and projectiles. Shields are far more powerful and have a much smaller perimeter than deflectors. That's why there is a separate deflector dish on almost all starships, it's just to move matter out of the way while the ship is moving so the hull doesn't get shredded by micrometeorites and such.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). Now, regardless to canon, projectile weapons cannot go past Federation shielding normally - we can even see several times how a Galaxy-class shield can block asteroids from impacing the hull or even otehr shielded ships. The only reason shuttles can pass by is because they modulate their shields to be the same frequency as the other ship's shielding so they can dock. This strategy was also used by a Klingon bbird of prey to make their photon torpedoes bypass the shielding, albeit they had inside help.
@adamwright9741
@adamwright9741 11 ай бұрын
This is an EXCELLENT evolution of the years ago awesome fan film!!! Thanks for putting this out with Star Trek characters's voices in there!
@redheadedviking9415
@redheadedviking9415 2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys are missing the big picture. Granted, Starfleet ships are much more advanced than Earth Alliance ships. I find it hard to believe that they would just go in guns blazing without first analyzing the situation. Yeah, a lone fighter did fire on a Starfleet ship but that hardly warrants a war with other humans from another universe. It just doesn't seem very believable but then again this is Star Trek VS Babylon 5, not Star Trek meets Babylon 5.
@tiborinna
@tiborinna 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats why the producer needed to cut off the first and biggest advantage, the shields right after emergence from Hyperspace,..but still there are transporters, so you are so right!
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 Жыл бұрын
This movie was a combination of StarTrek Legacy sounds and voices edited over fragments of a parody fan movie called "Star Wreck in the Pirkining". In that movie, all the "StarTrek" ships you are seeing are just 21st century inferior Federation lookalikes done with reverse-engineed inferior copies of the known StarTrek ships and russian technology - they couldn't go beyond warp 2 because their fuel wasn't pure enough and their shields were so bad they couldn't adapt correctly to the shift into the Babylon 9 dimension (yeah, the "9" was the name it had in the parody). In that movie there were no Seven of Nine, no Worf and no Picard - in fact the only "real" starfleeters were a Russian Captain with a sense of grandeour that wanted to be an Emperor, a strange version of Data and a angry Klingon lookalike, all of them came from the future to the late 20th century/early 21st century and couldn't come back, and then they messed up and somehow stopped Zefram Cochrane's flight from happening and had to do something to try to restore the timeline. The rest of the ship's crew were trained russian soldiers/militia which tended to drink a lot of vodka (from what the movie implied, and there's even a ship which got severaly damaged only because "the entire crew threw a party in the holodeck so brutal the entire ship is smoking, and then the holodeck doors locked and most of the crew got locked there so we are only two people outside"). So yeah, there have no starfleet regulations nor diplomatic approach, literally the first contact scene with the Babylon 5 universe on the movie was "hey there's another Earth here we should invade it" "sir, the channels are open" and then the Babylon 5 parody heard about it and said a very long speech about how they were not going to surrender to an invading force.
@rodneygaul2227
@rodneygaul2227 Жыл бұрын
If your a trekkie you'll love it , If a B-5 fan you'll have the "WTF" syndrome
@Detson404
@Detson404 Жыл бұрын
This is just Star Wreck with new voiceovers spliced in. Go watch up the original, people.
@Taal111
@Taal111 Жыл бұрын
ST ships rely 90% on shields for defence, so they're complete hamstrung without them - the EA ships use laser weapons which even the navigational deflectors would be able to withstand. Also; why were they constantly missing with phasers? Those weapons basically do not miss (at least at reasonable ranges) as the arrays they use allow for precise targeting - they would have just picked the Starfuries out of the sky in seconds. In a clean matchup, one Sovereign should be more than a match for the EA ships and B5; the addition of Whitestars and the Excalibur would likely even things back up a lot; but this ST fleet should have rolled over them.
@jamesroberts8894
@jamesroberts8894 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. In a setting without shields, you'd obviously load up 100 weapon systems per ship. That isn't the way it works with ST tech.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 10 ай бұрын
Please read the video description and the other ton of comments explaining things - it states it is based on Star Wreck in the Pirkining - those ships are not Federation vessels, but attempts at reverse-engineering done with 21st century russian technology, and they are not manned by a Federeation crew, either. The techs they had were barely enough to function and had a lot of the backup systems gone.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 10 ай бұрын
And in the original movie, the Federation-lookalikes won.
@Rebel3000
@Rebel3000 5 ай бұрын
Especially since fed ships can fire multiple targets at once
@alluringming
@alluringming 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of want see fleet of klingon ships going up against the minbari fleet. lol
@Futuretense101
@Futuretense101 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think this battle could get any better. Thanks for proving me wrong!
@pathfinderdiscovery9395
@pathfinderdiscovery9395 2 жыл бұрын
I like this version alot , very nicely done #1
@julianpalomino8354
@julianpalomino8354 2 жыл бұрын
I stop watching when the creators removed shields. From star fleet. This is not a honest representation of what would happen if they fought Babylon 5. Majority of these video seem to remove honesty. So Disappointing.
@_BLACKSTAR_
@_BLACKSTAR_ Жыл бұрын
"Red 5 standing by, Red 6 standing by, Red October standing by, Simply Red standing by"
@jimmcneal5292
@jimmcneal5292 8 ай бұрын
People in comments arguing with some saying that Star Trek ship are much more powerful, and other saying that B5 ones are. But do we actually know how powerful either ones are?(like in tnt equivalent). We know that basically any Stargate ships(even wraith) would absolutely crush both, but I haven't seen estimations of ST and B5 power levels
@awesomemccoolname7111
@awesomemccoolname7111 5 ай бұрын
Because trek has ships that have shielding as well as weapons that accurately hit their targets from tens of thousands of kilometers away. This fight shouldn't even be close. Earth doesn't even have artificial gravity or inertial dampners untill the end of the series in B5.
@jimmcneal5292
@jimmcneal5292 5 ай бұрын
@@awesomemccoolname7111 while range seems to be on the side of Star trek(few hundred thousand km vs tens thousand km), it does not automatically victory. Having shields definitely doesn't mean victory if both ships can shoot. Lack of artificial gravity can be explained by differences in physic laws. The dampeners however can be tricky, as it would mean B5 ships wouldn't be able to accelerate fast, while Star trek ships would be
@awesomemccoolname7111
@awesomemccoolname7111 5 ай бұрын
@@jimmcneal5292 I've watched both series at least 3 times (wasted youth) trek is hands down more powerful and capable.
@jimmcneal5292
@jimmcneal5292 5 ай бұрын
@@awesomemccoolname7111 bruh, your last comment is not an argument at all
@simonfreeman8233
@simonfreeman8233 5 ай бұрын
@@jimmcneal5292 sorry but are you forgeting that the whitestars and starfurys far more manuverable than any starfleet ship even the delta flyer would not be able to compete
@SamGray
@SamGray Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure an antimatter warhead that hits an EA destroyer would completely annihilate the ship instantly.
@bureau31
@bureau31 3 жыл бұрын
I liked it! It is interesting how Star Fleet used the same tactic Ivanova used in the battle against the Omega X destroyer fleet in B5: use a coherent fleet and then use speed to destroy a stronger, but slower fleet one ship at a time (focus fire). 13:39 Lol
@twilightgamedesigns4887
@twilightgamedesigns4887 Жыл бұрын
Anyone that is familiar with the difference in tech level presented in the two franchises will know trek ships are way more advance then most the factions in B5, and yes I love B5, had great storylines, ships, characters, etc. Different sci-fi creators just chose to use different levels of tech for the type of story telling they want to do.
@Psuedo-Nim
@Psuedo-Nim 8 ай бұрын
Babylon 5 ships and stations would love simply to transporter technology. They have no shields, no way to stop transporter beams. They lose their crews. Game over.
@Leondrius
@Leondrius 7 ай бұрын
Babylon 5 ships could open jump points right on top of them if they wanna get cheap like that.
@Psuedo-Nim
@Psuedo-Nim 7 ай бұрын
@@Leondrius and do what? Watch them move right out of them?
@Leondrius
@Leondrius 7 ай бұрын
@@Psuedo-Nim No. It would destroy them. It's not like the Starfleet ships would even know what was happening.
@Psuedo-Nim
@Psuedo-Nim 7 ай бұрын
@@Leondrius It would have no effect. Jump points aren't weapons unless you enter a destabilzed one. The shadows were the ones we saw destabilizing created jump points..and only the far slower lumbering capital ships couldn't get out. . As Star Trek ships are far faster, even that would be avoidable. The fastest of Mimbiari ships could hit .05C, some credit up to .2c, while standard full impuse speed for star trek is .25C--so at a minimum, Star Trek capital Ships are 25% faster than a White Star. uttery luseless, Babylon 5 tech loses again.
@Leondrius
@Leondrius 7 ай бұрын
@@Psuedo-Nim If you've ever seen Babylon 5 "A Call to Arms" you'd know that a jump point opened up directly on top of a target destroys it.
@nicholasklangos9704
@nicholasklangos9704 Жыл бұрын
Some lovely destruction all around! Nice piece of work!
@calumscott8737
@calumscott8737 Жыл бұрын
This is fun, love the efforts involved.
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge Жыл бұрын
So many Russians in Starfleet... "USS Vladimir - ve're out of fuel and ve chave nothing to eat!" "Commodore Prokoviev to landing party: Take all the toilets you can get your chands on!" "Zey vill velcome us as liberato...*connection lost*"
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge Жыл бұрын
"Zey are towing the USS. Paprika avay vith traktor!" - "Zey chave traktor biems?!?" - "No! I mean viz ze aktshual traktor! Four vheels! Brrrmmm! Brrrmmm!""
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 Жыл бұрын
Why the heck are the Federation in combat with Earth Force.
@Donbett1974
@Donbett1974 Жыл бұрын
I like that the ship that lasted the longest should have been the first to be destroyed.
@merlinyeti
@merlinyeti Ай бұрын
Well , I must say the B5 plot armour was indeed mighty
@TrekCannon
@TrekCannon Жыл бұрын
This was fun! I may have to stitch this one day as I love both shows but soooo much to say about this.....shield failed SMH 😆
@spcredacted200
@spcredacted200 Жыл бұрын
1 minor nitpick, I feel like Cpt Picard would have ordered the fleet out of there once they realized all their shields were inoperative
@ericfluellen8957
@ericfluellen8957 Жыл бұрын
I agreed they would have held back till they got their shields up and running.
@alexslgato1735
@alexslgato1735 10 ай бұрын
Please read the video description and the other comments - it states it is based on a finnish fanwork called Star Wreck in the Pirkining - those ships are not Federation vessels, but attempts at reverse-engineering done with 21st century russian technology, and they are not manned by a Federeation crew, either, but a totalitarian fleet akin to the Mirror Universe and the Confederation Picard alternate timeline.
@robertmandl9326
@robertmandl9326 Жыл бұрын
This is, for the most part, from "Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning"; an excellent parody / original story aimed at both Star Trek and Babylon 5. See the original linked in the description, from Energia Productions.
@Rip_moon330
@Rip_moon330 7 ай бұрын
ok so you tell me that fight is nothing? because they all dead nobody win?🗿
@tray488
@tray488 7 ай бұрын
That would be one conclusion.
@Rebel3000
@Rebel3000 5 ай бұрын
Though they only took out B5, which is just a housing unit for politics. The bulk of the B5 universe hadnt even been touched yet
@jtno2
@jtno2 Жыл бұрын
Nice job of editing in all the different sound effects.
@cf5595
@cf5595 3 ай бұрын
This version is better than original…. I like you used the Star Trek fleet command
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