Star Trek vs BSG HD

[@keiththorpe9571]

I've seen several comments that take issue with the fact that the Cylon Basestars manage to hang in there in the fight for longer than might otherwise be expected, given that they have no kind of energy shielding the way that Federation starships do, and given the power of Federation phasers, photon and quantum torpedoes. My own thought on that is that both Cylon defense systems (as well as Galactica) followed a different defense doctrine and technology. Perhaps using highly advanced materials' technology (possibly even more advanced than that of the Federation) in order to fabricate hull plating that serves as a more robust and effective defense system than might otherwise be possible with standard materials like Federation duranium and tritanium. They still can't go toe-to-toe for long in a sustained firefight with Starfleet's ships of the line, and their point-defense cannons can't seem to intercept torpedoes in order to stop them, but the hulls themselves could take quite a pounding for a bit longer. And then of course there's the fact that the Cylon cannons do next to no damage against starship shields. Only one Starfleet vessel sustained any damage, and it simply withdrew to let the others finish the job.

[@EnterprisezJ]

Thank you, my thoughts were quite similar, I thought they could've used some kind of a ablative armour which is very strong, we can see it in final episode of Voyager

[@keiththorpe9571]

@@EnterprisezJ My very thought, indeed. As I mused even further, another system came to mind which might be within the grasp of BSG-universe tech: Structural integrity fields. To strengthen the superstructure of their ships, Federation vessels transmit energy throughout the hull fabric and load-bearing members within the vessel. A system using similar principles might also give the Cylons (or Galactica) more resilience during heavy bombardment. Ever since I saw this video about 5-6 years ago (and DUDE! Did it blow my hair back? Just you believe it!) I've asked myself the question: Could the Cylons ever be a near-peer threat to Starfleet and the Federation? It would seem unlikely, given the limited scope of Cylon forces and the amount of territory that they claim (presumably for the purposes of resource extraction and utilization, though they never seemed to me to have social, ideological, or political motivations for territorial expansion, apart from wanting to wipe out humanity and therefore needing the means with which to do that). Yet, given that Cylons have shown at times (more in the reboot than in the OG series) remarkable adaptability, they might could construct a fleet (in a crash program of development) that could give Starfleet a run for it's money. However, this poses an even more fundamental question. Upon contact with the Federation (and the realization that both they and the 12 human colonies of Kobol are little more than relatively minor players in a vast galactic menagerie of federated states, empires, and various other aligned and non-aligned powers), in what way would the Cylon's singular objective (to whit; obliterating humankind) be altered by such a revelation? Yeah, this is gonna keep me awake now... (lol)

[@Veridiano02]

@@keiththorpe9571 Well, it depends. The federation pre-dominion where retofited ships, medical and science vessels a plenty, and more focused on exploration that in real combat. Cylons will need to forge some galactic alliances on their own, but that's possible with people like cardassians, romulans, orions or even ferengi around. However in a post-dominion war, stuff changes a lot. Starfleet has ships that use the defiant as a model, the soverign class, which is pretty much the closest thing Starfleet has to a battlecruiser, and ships like the Akira class, more focused to combat. Plus, more fresh war tactics, war veteran officers and crews, and more combat readiness. In that case a threat like the Cylon will be not ignored. And with a change in politics that means the dominion war, no one will ever make an alliance against the federation. However, the federation will never go to war when they can do diplomacy, and the cylon will pretty much be forced by the circumstances to sitting in a table with a humanity that's a founder of a several thousands planet alliance with a vast, much more advance fleet. And once the cylons are there, you send the Enterprise-E (if it's post-dominion) and, between Piccard charm, Data as basically a demonstration of tolerance towards androids and robots by the federation, and Riker probably banging a cylon (that's a joke XD) the cylons will end up becoming a part of the federation in a few years, probably. And the human refugees will end up in Trek's Earth, which will be the paradise they were looking for.

[@jynbr4883]

Bro they had weapons set to "plot."

[@EnterprisezJ]

alright you're right@@jynbr4883

[@richardgregory3684]

How it would have gone: Data: "We have arrived at the co-ordinates indicated by the archelogical data obtained from the artefact Captain" Picard: "Slow to half impulse, and begin full sensor sweep" Worf: "Captain, I detect a large number of space vessels in the vicinty. There also appears to be a substantial quantity of metallic debris and radiation" Picard: "Scan the spacecraft - I want to know what happened here" Worf: "Aye Captain. (pause). The ships appear quite primitive Captain. No shields; crude natural alloy contruction; fusion power. I am detecting large numbers of life-forms aboard - human!" Riker: "As we suspected. At least the Prime Directive won't apply" Worf: "Many of the ships appear to have been adapted to carry passengers, sir. Some are little more than bulk cargo carriers" Picard: "A refugee fleet, perhaps?" Riker: "If so, whatever they were running from might have caught up with them" Worf: "Captain! One of the human ships is under attack! Small craft - fighters of some kind!" Approximately the same level of technlogy as the other craft - primitive laser weaponry" Picard: "Hail them, Mr Worf. Warn them off." Worf: "Aye Sir. No response. Strange - the fighters register no life forms. Nothing other than some sort of computer system control. Very primitive, pre-Duotronic era" Picard: "Warn them again - and lock phasers" Worf: "Still no reponse. One of the human vessels is destroyed, sir. No survivors. The fighters have opened fire on us, Captain. Shields register virtually no impact" Picard: "Very well, Mr Worf. Set phasers to minimum power and fire. Let's show them we've got teeth - but not how sharp" Worf: "Fighters destroyed, sir. Receiving a hail from the human ships - they are using what I believe was known as 'radio'. They ask if we are from something called the thirteenth colony. They also warn us that something they call 'the Cylons' has several 'base stars" nearby" Riker: "Cylons? What the devil are they? Widen the scan area, Mr Worf" Worf: "Aye sir. Detecting several large vessels - apparently designed as carriers for the fighters. Heavily armed and armoured by their standards - they represent no threat to us, however. They are moving towards the human ships, apparently intending to attack" Picard:"Life signs aboard the - I suppose base stars is as good a label as any" Worf: "None sir. Only more of the computer complexes and what seem to be some form of robots" Picard: "Very well. It appears we must engage these 'Cylons'. Phasers and photon torpedoes at your discretion, Mr Worf. Hit them hard enough to try to make them retreat, but if necessary destroy them" Worf: "Sir, two base-stars are destroyed. The largest appears to be a command ship of some kind. It has retreated - very early warp-drive or equivalent" Picard: "Very well. Prepare to extend our warpfield around the human ships - lets get these people home"

[@msjohncox]

Legit. They should hire you as the script writer.

[@There_N_back_Again]

Shoulda thrown Wesley in there, and had Picard tell him to shut-up lol

[@mr6johnclark]

This script is so GOOD i Could hear their voices.

[@dixievfd55]

They would have picked up one human lifesign if Baltar was still alive on the command ship. Or would that be one Klingon lifesign? ;)

[@IMDARKFIRE007]

Not bad at all. What I noticed was missing though was a response from Data at the revelation they were machines.

[@emmettobrian1874]

Considering that canonically a hand phaser can vaporize 16 cubic meters of rock and the galaxy class phases are shown to drill a 5 km borehole in the surface of a planet in seconds, those basestars would not last that long.

[@VestedUTuber]

Also kinda hammers home how much of a difference shield tech makes. You pretty much need some sort of rapid-acting hull repair (like the Wraith or Replicators from Stargate) to be able to get away with not having them against shielded opposition.

[@gravis2000]

@@VestedUTuber The Basestars did have shields not just mechanical but energy shields he did not show that because he didn't know. Also each Basestar had 300 fighters.

[@jarrodskufcagaming5203]

@@gravis2000 A Starfleet ship would easily destroy those.

[@csi1392]

IT WOULD NOT TAKE PHASERS 3 SECONDS TO DESTROY A CYLON FIGHTER. (PROBEBLY .3 SECONDS OR QUICKER FOR PHASER RIFLE) A SHIPS PHASER WOULD TAKE OUT ANY THAT ARE IN THE FIRING PATH

[@thomas.parnell7365]

​@@VestedUTuber that and zpm to power them

[@kingbeauregard]

Three stately Federation vessels, moving with grace and grandeur like the great ships of old. And then you've got the Defiant-class ship, like a hyperactive five-year-old on a tricycle throwing sticks of dynamite.

[@aresthecrazy9335]

That is such a accurate description of the defiant my god.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

@@aresthecrazy9335 Even the video shows its blasters being fired like throwing dynamite XDXD

[@lanapowell]

There's even a moment where you have: Shot of the E swooping gracefully and firing all weapons Shot of the D swooping gracefully and firing all weapons Shot of the Magellan swooping gracefully and firing all weapons And then there's the Defiant just kinda doing loops and spins without firing a shot nor being shot at And I'm like, "Are you gonna do something there?" lol

[@kingbeauregard]

@@lanapowell That's the Defiant's way of shaking its butt at the Cylons and daring them to attack. "Hey you Borg-lite rejects, let's see you hit THIS!"

[@Edinstvo-The-Astral-Wolf]

Hahahahahahaha

[@neorenamon]

Picard: "Analysis, Mr. Worf?" Worf: "It appears to be an inferior versions of the Borg... no wait, they are pure robotic beings and they cannot adapt to our technology." Picard: "Sucks to be them..."

[@congnghequansuvn474]

Star fleet: welcome to the future *ssholes. Cyclones: don't come any closer, we.. We have nukes. Star fleet: (laugh intensified) Truly, the Enterprise doesn't need any help crushing those Basestar. Oh hell, Star trek Photon torpedos use anti-matter mean they are a lot stronger than any nukes.

[@jimgilbert9984]

Actually, I think the comment "Sucks to be them" is more something Riker would say instead of Picard.

[@svenschwingel8632]

@@jimgilbert9984 I'd rather attribute that statement to Benjamin Sisko 😬

[@jimgilbert9984]

@@svenschwingel8632 You are absolutely correct! That is something more like Sisko would say.👍

[@stevenmynes6212]

The Galactica/Cylon lasers couldn't even 'scratch' the Federation navigation deflectors.

[@jeremybuxman7555]

"Mr. Worf, set phasers to...low. Take our time with this. Enjoy it."

[@TheSithLibraryArchivesGalactic]

"Yes Captain.... And... Thank you, Sir. "

[@TonyAnnechino]

@@TheSithLibraryArchivesGalactic "Sir, there is no honor in these enemies. Why not just wipe them out?" "They're not even sentient, Mr. Worf. This is a tactical intelligence operation as much as it is an extermination. You appreciate learning as much as you can about your enemies, don't you? ...Mr. Data, record as much telemetry as you can. I suspect there are lot more of these things out there."

[@j453]

Yeah right! lol

[@Zamolxes77]

That's not in character, I doubt Picard would give such an order. In fact there's a similar scene in Enterprise, where a primitive ship attacks USS Enterprise with low particle lasers, and the ensign at tactical refuses to open fire.

[@michaelmitchener1822]

@@Zamolxes77 the sovreign class vessel there would suggest that the galaxy class is not the enterprise. therefore suggest not Picards command. but either way its fan fic therefore. its in the script.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

A Cylon fighter on the receiving end of a Galaxy class starship's main weapon, should disintegrate instantly, like a moth in a blowtorch.

[@msjohncox]

One would think. However, with no life support systems or creature comforts, Cylon ships could be very robust. Living crew members are messy and fragile and protecting them can suck up a lot of resources and compromise survivability.

[@Enforcer_WJDE]

@19lance20 Exactly what would you boil inside though? There is no water nor air because the pilots in those ships are robots.

[@guidosalducci2553]

@@Enforcer_WJDE With enough energy, anything can boil. Even metal.

[@mattsmith8160]

Agreed, That took about as long as lighting a cigar with a match. lol

[@jlomesou]

How interesting would the battle have been if there was no possibility the Federation could lose?

[@ThrashMetallix]

_(Enterprise-D destroys four raiders)_ Cylon Fleet: A challenger, with some bite. Okay, might be difficult, but we can take it! _(Magellan warps in)_ Cylon Fleet: ....Okaaay weren't expecting reinforcements. But there's three of us, and two of them. And we're bigger! _(Enterprise-E warps in)_ Cylon Fleet: ........ okay maybe... MAYBE this will be too close to call. I mean those raiders didn't even scratch that one ship. Maybe we should cut our losses and- _(Defiant warps in)_ Cylon Fleet: FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

[@saadqureshi7127]

The prometheus warps in and unleashes multi vector assault mode separating into 3 different ships. Cylons: wtf is that! We have to retreat!

[@shadowwolfmandan]

Honestly each phaser shot on the raiders should have taken less than half a second.

[@cy-one]

I thought the same. I mean, cross-universe is always a bit BS, but... Star Trek has armored and shielded ships. BSG has armored and unshielded ships. Those phasers wouldn't really have any trouble with raiders.

[@cy-one]

Theo Peri, you know... The weak-ass "navigation deflectors", that aren't even considered to be actual shields are strong enough to deflect the impact of multi-ton space-debris and asteroids. Untill you want to go down the rabbit hole of "but what if they can only deflect large stuff" (which would be kinda utter nonsense), a few bullets won't be a problem.

[@andrewthorne3570]

Dan Rein you mean like this kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXS8mqWMnZuNjbs

[@MrWardonis]

This thing is actually more than 10 years old and out performs many things in awesomeness

[@steelgreyed]

It is a floating Hotel in space, what were you trying to outperform? Anything with a gun is going to be a problem...

[@louisbabycos106]

I just saw someone do a star wars star Trek cross over recently and the quality of the animation was teen titans go at best and they had live action from real episodes that really did not fit the story line at all . Now this star Trek vs BSG is an excellent endeavor and should be the benchmark for crossover animation .

[@charlesdowns5344]

I've always been a sucker for an honor story. Seeing the refugees brought to safety by Federation ships mostly made up for the loss of Galactica. This is the best crossover video I've seen since I first discovered them on youtube shortly after youtube went live. My compliments to all those who were a part of this. You involved me emotionally and made me care about the outcome. And then, you gave us a happy ending. Thank you.

[@EnterprisezJ]

Thank you very much! We are very happy our story brought you something good.

[@brybish]

The ship is not Galactica the enterprise scanned a part of Galactica in the beginning it looked like a important bit. I don't care love the video.

[@Lsd911]

@@brybish first bit was pegasus Galactica was the one destroyed on screen

[@Thurgosh_OG]

@@Lsd911 The piece clearly says Galactica on it. Must have blown off earlier in the battle.

[@DrownedInExile]

"Set a course... for home."

[@Ovrkyl]

That ending, as they came out of warp, perfect music, and can imagine the reactions of the people on those vessels at the sight before them. Tears of joy and relief, the long journey of little hope is finally at an end. They have found Home. Hail the heroes of the Galactica! They went out fighting with honor, true Colonial Warriors all.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

If the creators decided to merge the two IPs,maybe the ending of this YT video may become canon. After all,BSG is about returning home right?

[@GabbieTheFox]

So say we all.

[@Akutenshi1990]

And then they meet Worf.....along with all the other aliens lol.

[@EdricLysharae]

In this version, the 13th Tribe had far better toys.

[@davyt0247]

So say we all.

[@jasonchang9112]

Data: Captain their ships seem to be running with no shields. Picard: How quaint, beam a photon torpedo on to their bridge and detonate Data: Aye, sir

[@NeoTodesklingel]

" The Smell of charred Machines was never as sweet as it was today ... ... " Date = " ... ... ... * looks * ... ... ... " " Umm, "Machines", Data! Machines. *NOT* Androids!! Heheheheh. *^.^"* "

[@rainbowstrike5723]

+JoshQuade Gaming - Animations, Gaming Videos HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@carlhardric8606]

"All too easy." lol.

[@TheByQQ]

They can do the same. Faster. Also, TOS Basestars HAVE shields.

[@leepreston9637]

Actually Picard would use his superior diplomatic skills and negotiate a peace settlement.

[@GoofballLtG]

Does anybody else imagine the ensuing conversations? Star fleet captain: Welcome to Earth. Where are you and your people from? Colonial leader: By the GODS!! We are the other twelve colonies of Cobalt! We were fleeing the Cylon invasion and searching for the fabled home of the thirteenth colony, earth! We’ve made it! Star fleet: Um, I have no idea what you’re talking about but if you’re human you’re welcome to stay.

[@mattosullivan9687]

OLD SCHOOL Starbuck & Yeoman Rand

[@FedoReds88]

"and also if you aren't human, well, we are the capital planet of an huge interspecies interstellar state, so you are welcomed too"

[@FedoReds88]

Now immagine this as the end of the reimagined series, after all these dark and sad atmosphere

[@ZR117]

Sir the name glatica is known as a history as they retreated and the colneys took earth back and we came at war with each other for saplys then wen archers dad created the phinox so started the history of the earth Vulcan humanaty then star fleet emerged and we've been preparing for there return since the Borg and now we're ready Picard to Star fleet we're going to need to give it every thing we got you got it Jun luke Picard ship diverting course and Warping to your location perfect engage now!

[@ZR117]

@@FedoReds88 Um you for git star fleet can cure the human of the c-droids infection

[@psychoaftershok]

It's a shame the Battlestar didn't make it to Earth. Rest easy Commander. So say we all.😢

[@mattosullivan9687]

They sacrificed themselves and bought enough time for the Feds to come to the rescue. well done

[@rolandet]

So say we all.

[@djfmitv]

Which version of BSG are you referring to, as there were two seperate versions - the first where Adama did make it to earth with the help of some 'eternal'-like beings, and the second where they do...except it was apparently a post nuclear wasteland that was 'refuge' for the 'first Cylon refugees' (apparently) (damn 'modern' BSG gets so convuluted really quickly)

[@psychoaftershok]

@@djfmitv referring to this video

[@snowcrow4536]

they did.

[@allenbair226]

This is, admittedly, one of my favorite fan films out there. I always imagined it as so poignant that the colonial ships be rescued and escorted to Earth by Earth's own forces which, in the 24th century are vastly superior to either the Cylons' or the Colonial Fleet.

[@Idazmi7]

Same.

[@josecarlosgutierrez5814]

Same

[@AenVegra]

Except for the magellan-poor poor magellan. Or if we wanna go for a canonical explaination, 'it just happened to have a plasma fire in impulse reactor 2, totally unrelated'

[@Usa_mikek]

It is 2019 and I still go back to watch this from time to time so well done a few inconsistencies of course but the execution was fantastic.

[@youtubehandlescostmemyusername]

This is the best FTL effect I've seen. The camera motion, the bright stars and the transition are all superb. You really captured the best of the BSG jump and it's gorgeous when applied to the Galaxy class.

[@dscorca]

This isn't actually Star Trek vs BSG but more like Star Trek comes to the rescue and kicks some cylon butt. Thanks for creating and posting this.

[@robertanthony8227]

the Borg however would asemulate the Cilons an make them part of thd colective

[@liquidleopard4495]

"Cylons vs. Starfleet"

[@captainpharaoh]

Agreed. And very nicely done. My only comment: Considering weapons capabilities of Starfleet ships, and considering the Cylon Basestars had minimal shielding at best, Any one of the Federation starships would likely wipe out all 3 basestars with little effort.

[@josephamendolea3431]

@@captainpharaoh I would've liked to see some partnership with the Federation's Klingon allies getting in on the act too with some Vor'Cha and Negh'Var class battlecruisers and maybe a few BoP's....and jus think if the Scimitar had gotten in on the act XD

[@greygalaxy8638]

The 13th Colony shall not leave you to fight alone! Truly epic. *heroic tear*

[@ДмитрийКаганер]

*The Metropoly.

[@williammanues7716]

Rescuing unarmed ships is something a Federation ship would do.

[@DanielBrown-sn9op]

Exactly.

[@anonymouspersonthefake]

its not something a federation ship WOULD do, its something a federation ship DOES do

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@anonymouspersonthefake even if they are out gunned 3 to 1

[@anonymouspersonthefake]

@@thomas.parnell7365 ESPECIALLY if they are outgunned 3 to 1

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@anonymouspersonthefake it's the star fleet way .I always wondered how a Frankenstein star ship made out of leftover parts and salvage from the dominion war . intrepid class lower hull mated to a Miranda class ship as the replacement saucer section keeping the Miranda warp core just to power shields and weapons but nacelles removed .as cheap patrol craft for rising commanders or disgraced captains would fair.(starfleet command give him. Command just a old ship)

[@renepadilla7104]

Captain: "Warp 6, engage". Helmsman: "By your command." Navigator: "May the force be with us." Tactical: "bee Dee bee Dee bee Dee."

[@gethrojenkins9619]

Random Engineer on bridge: By Grabthar's Hammer!

[@drumguy1960]

I bet MOST people don't get that bee Dee bee Dee bee Dee comment LOL....I do!

[@gethrojenkins9619]

@@drumguy1960 lol, ol' Buck Rogers was my go to show back in the day ;)

[@renepadilla7104]

@@drumguy1960 you are a legend then. Lol

[@drumguy1960]

@@gethrojenkins9619 I watched it recently and by todays standards it was cheesy as hell but damn was it good then. The female guest stars? WHEW!!!!

[@Loreman72]

When I was 11, my best friend and I used to fantasise about what would happen if Commander Adama's ship met Capt. Kirk's. Thank you so much for this! Don't stop creating!

[@schnoggel]

I am from Germany.I like Star Trek since i was a Child in the middle of the 70s.Kirk,Picard,DS9,Captain Archer,Voyager,Discovery.I am a big Fan.But this Video is amazing.The flight with Warp in this Video is incredible. Sometimes i wish,Star Trek is the reality.....Sorry for my English.

[@m.martinez8400]

Its ok your english

[@douglasrowland3722]

Don't be sorry for your English...be sorry for what they have done to the franchise is the last twenty years !!!!!!!!!

[@spacetechempire510]

I also wish this was our reality. But we caint make our dreams come true with a wish. We can make the true with determination, hard work, and cooperation. That is how we can make our future as bright as we see it in the star track franchise. No worries on your English. It’s good enough to understand. And to see your view point. That is the point of a verbal and written language to exchange information. And I’m ranting sorry I need to sleep.

[@schnoggel]

@@spacetechempire510 ......Live long and prosper

[@vexile1239]

You speak English better than most English speakers

[@ErrantLight]

That has got to be the most satisfying sci-fi video I HAVE EVER SEEN! Kudos to you guys for doing that, thank you! Not only was the combat just right but the rag-tag fugitive fleet arriving at an Earth with a powerful utopian civilization was really moving. The shot of the BSG fleet going into orbit around the Spacedock with the Starfleet ships in attendance brought tears to my eyes! Now I'm going to comb the intarwebs for more of your stuff! You've got an eternal fan!!!

[@robertanthony8227]

yes it brought tears to my eyes too, made me prowd of the Fediration an Star Fleet. an could how imagin how the saved collones must feel to arvie to earth of there dreamx like hevaon to them, again thank you. an the music is so feeling. its like the 2nd coming, it so moveing

[@grassulus158]

Correction: 2 eternal fans.

[@UnicornGamingRX03]

How BSG should have ended?

[@OriginMSD]

I love how the Star Trek ships move away from the first Cylon ship without waiting for it to finish blowing up. They know exactly how much damage they've inflicted and when the battle is over. It's the star ship equivalent of being cool enough to not look back at the explosion. 😎

[@thomas.parnell7365]

True thats what's sensors for base star might as well be transparent.

[@mattosullivan9687]

Like when Steph Curry turns around because he knows he buried the 3

[@jefftappan7973]

Lasers vs. phasers. Forget about photon/ quantum torpedoes.

[@jtcali2086]

Love this depiction. Probably the single best representation of what Star Trek ships are said to be able to do in a battle, plus the most accurate showing of the spirit of WHY Star Trek ships go into battle. Also, the only time we have seen what impulse engines as shown in ST are capable of. Its not a straight thrust powered propulsion per the description. Its a low grade subspace field that the ship basically coasts on to make its mass less than standard, therefore very maneuverable. There is thrust from the exhausts for added speed and the thrusters for added turn. You see the ships bobbing and weaving, rocking back and forth and sharp bank turns...all indicative of evasive maneuvers. So cool!

[@AenVegra]

Don't forget Inertial Dampners-they still pull more Gs than the crew can handle during those moves, which is what the dampners smooth out. All combined, you get a ship that is as big as a goddamn town and able to pull over a dozen gs in a turn. Absolutely incredible.

[@othas3]

Galaxy class and Sovereign class? You're just being a bully at this point.

[@stormtroopergreig5217]

And their both the enterprise so add like idk 200% plot armour and you have doomsday in a nutshell

[@othas3]

@@stormtroopergreig5217 Plot Armour? Is that the same as Contract-Shields?

[@stormtroopergreig5217]

@@othas3 more or less because of the name they are invincible untill the all mighty writer's deem them ready to die

[@kingbeauregard]

It doesn't really reach the point of overkill until the Defiant-class ship appears.

[@explosivemodesonicmauricet1597]

@@othas3 Welp,ST's Enterprise is kinda the protagonist starship.

[@Roddy229]

Beautiful work on the effects, I'll definitely say that. Here's how I can see this playing out. Cylon fleet: We have the colonials on the run, their flagship is destroyed (Enterprise D warps in) Cylons: One more ship? This will be easy (Cylons open fire, and realize that the Enterprise has shields) Cylons: Uh oh. They upgraded (Remaining Federation ships drop out of warp) Cylons: Oh shit. We're boned. *shits bricks*

[@rolandet]

(USS Quadrant drops out of warp). WHO WANTS SOME!!!

[@goku546686]

@@rolandet imagine the new odyssey class enterprise joining in.

[@ADDISON6368]

@@goku546686 oh god that overkill anyone ship like that or anything after 25th.. is just pure overkill

[@davidjakiela9553]

Had to come by for a fix. The warp and shield effects still give me chills. The music is perfectly choreographed to the action. A true masterpiece of science fiction art.

[@EnterprisezJ]

Ohh wow! Thank you soo much!

[@AenVegra]

​@@EnterprisezJ Most definitely great!

[@VonAlb]

Beautiful Shield affects.... this is how everyone wanted to see shields being hit!

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

Nah it's better in star trek nemesis

[@FedoReds88]

@FreyXIX I hope that someday the will add the effect to a remastered version

[@davidjames1063]

Exactly. Star Wars weapons would have equal effects.......NONE !

[@ClassicSteve]

The Enterprise warping effects are absolutely beautiful. A work of art.

[@EnterprisezJ]

+Steve Harte thank you very much!!

[@aaronbeaty3980]

Beyond Amazing!

[@mjnoir1]

Yes the way the camera panned around the Galaxy class as it was in the warp tunnel was a true work of art

[@bingbongabinga2954]

The Temporal Prime Directive must have been recinded for this mission.

[@bingbongabinga2954]

Wherever there's flesh there are Cybermen/Borg/Cylons.

[@GabbieTheFox]

Can we all take a moment to appreciate how kind the Cylons were by giving the colonial fleet a moment to grieve and mourn the loss of the Galactica before resuming their attack?

[@thomas.parnell7365]

They were probably giving them a few moments to accept fact they will share same fate soon

[@mattosullivan9687]

A few moments of grief and horror

[@AenVegra]

Possibly sending all the toasters to their racks to recharge first-

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

For those wondering music starting with battle start in order: Hovercraft pursuit-crysis warhead, boss fight theme 2-crysis warhead, mission complete-crysis warhead, train battle-crysis warhead, suicide mission-Mass Effect 2. EnterprisezJ wonderful video and a man of culture to use ost from 2 epic games. 👏

[@Idazmi7]

After searching around, I'd conclude that despite some minor nitpick inaccuracies, this video is the most accurate representation of Star Trek's Federation Star Fleet on KZbin. The Federation's ships actually have their deflector shields (a detail that surprisingly many people forget) and they don't remain stationary through the battle, instead maneuvering constantly and taking maximum advantage of their weapon coverage. Good job.

[@MasterMindWC]

That is kinda what i was thinking. It took a channel oriented to star trek to get the details of star trek ships correctly. Well except for the defiant, isn't it's phaser cannons suppose to be yellow/orange not blue? I know the Defiant has both Photon and Quantum torpedos, but what was that?

[@Idazmi7]

That is a fanmade variant of the Defiant, called the U.S.S. Quantum. It obviously has upgraded weapons.

[@robertanthony8227]

Fan, tastic,a work of brilent art that would make Gen Roddenberry prowd, i aplad this wounderfal film that shows the true meaning of Star Fleet policeing the Universe

[@JohnMasterCheif]

thought they were only supposed to fire straight ahead too

[@daleludtke7803]

It has both phaser arrays and its pulse phaser cannons

[@davidjakiela9553]

This video never gets old. Whenever I need a pick up it's there like an old friend.

[@EnterprisezJ]

I haven't ever expected that this video will become what it became for people:)

[@carlo9877]

@@EnterprisezJ this is the best video in youtube ever. This brings tears to my eyes every time i see it

[@missbish1000]

I do have to say above all this is literally the BEST fan made sci fi star trek genre film I've yet seen on youtube and am seriously looking forwards to more of this caliber.

[@EnterprisezJ]

+Lisa winn, Lisa thank you again, very very much :) There is something big I'm working on right now, and the finish is near, sooo :) be patient :D

[@missbish1000]

Most welcome and looking forwards to it.

[@porpus99]

+EnterprisezJ I have to agree. The only issue I had was the fact you had two Enterprises at the battle, lol. I maintain the Galaxy Class ship should have been the USS Venture, the unsung hero of the Dominion War.

[@EnterprisezJ]

porpus99 thanks! :) Well, about two Enterprises - honestly I just totally forgot to change the texture map of one of the ship..

[@missbish1000]

it's not a huge issue unless your a trekkie purist. Even then it's like, so what? it's a great little movie.

[@PT3VIDZ]

As much as I hate to witness the destruction of the beloved Galactica, I have to admit that you did her proudly. This is how she should have died. Bravely fighting to the last against impossible odds, defending the fleet to the last. I agree with many commenters that the Cylon raiders should have vanished instantly when hit by Federation phasers, but the drama of having them last a few seconds was worth it. Well done.

[@EnterprisezJ]

Thank you so much!!🙏🙏 I was too young that time, I don’t think I was deliberately adding so much drama(I’m not a script writer at all..) but if people likes the tension.. well, then I did at least something.

[@thewrongaccount608]

Oh man! This is incredible! It is interesting to wonder what if BSG TOS arrived at Earth not in 1984 but in 2484 and found the Federation. That would be an interesting series!

[@johnilarde8440]

Tennyson123445 Nah. How about 2376. The BSG TOS arrived at earth at the year 2376. There we could see Enterprise-E Kick some ass.

[@maimounadieng971]

Tennyson123445 4fatou magole

[@richardpoynton4026]

Tennyson123445 Go to Fanfiction site. There are several stories of the Galactica meeting the federation

[@robertgarner6832]

How about the BSG group arrives in Earth year 2259 for the Babylon 5 universe. Be interesting to see how the Earth Alliance ships would stack up to the Battlestar Galactica ships.

[@ewaldbracko1534]

@@robertgarner6832 BSG vs. B5 Universe would be a bit more equal - but only for the earlier human ships. Later on the B5 universe was also far more advanced.

[@scottholupka1508]

The federation would have obliterated them In the matter of minutes

[@alexander11b]

Scott Holupka yea that battle took way to long

[@chrisevans6548]

Maybe they were giving them a chance to run away. Lol

[@aiosquadron]

If I know starfleet, they are firing to disable.

[@1stdualm]

In reality of the lore, one galaxy class starship would make short work of the entire Cylon fleet.

[@dracopendragon6829]

I actually believe it would only take 1 Constitution Class ship to wipe out that fleet.

[@ravenmoon5111]

@@dracopendragon6829 I agree. They really have no way of damaging a Constitution Class starship Through its shields.

[@ricwalker6600]

@@ravenmoon5111 i disagree. yes, the shields would make them invulnerable from the base stars plasma/laser weapons, but we are talking several yards thick hull armor plating. There is no way Phasers would cut/melt through this quick leaving the torpedoes as the main source of damage and all Star Trek series are very inconsistent about how much damage they actually could do. So it would not be quick. Same goes for a Battlestars armored hull. so the Base Stars weapons are high powered to work their way through the thick hull. so if the base star gets in hits, they have punch. the only question is, how many they could actually land against the agile federation ship. and anything that goes through the shield would do extreme damage, because fed ships have paper hulls compared to literally any other si-fy fandom. And this was the original series base star. the reboot first cylon war base star (same design but conventional weapons) could withstand several rocket and torbedo barrages, heck they could sometimes eat even a nuke to the face and survive it heavily damaged. those reboot base stars could really trouble a Federation ship. because shields do defend against conventional weapons but far less effective than against energy weapons. so getting hit by conventional weapons and missiles really would mean more trouble. i would like to see that in a video.

[@svenschwingel8632]

@@ricwalker6600 in Trek lore, the shields also protect against kinetic damage. Hell, even the navigation deflector does that because it is necessary for warp travel. Bullets won't do a thing against tech from trek lore. And neither would nukes. In space, nukes don't really detonate (because there is not enough matter to be moved around) but rather convert their yield into radiation. Which is what shields also protect against, especially since more than 50% of the radiation would be directed away from the impact area upon detonation because nukes aren't exactly shaped charges.

[@GeigerCounterVirtualMuseum]

One runabout could have taken all three in less than a minute. Warp in , assess the situation. Transport three torpedoes into their reactor cores. “ Hey guys, welcome to Earth” The end.

[@AvroBellow]

Ten years later and it still looks and sounds absolutely AMAZING! This is one of the all-time great space battles videos. I know that the FedShips were nerfed to make it interesting because a single, well-placed volley of Quantum Torpedoes would blow the central connection of any Cylon BaseStar. They weren't designed to withstand antimatter-based weaponry. The original BattleStars were armed with plasma bolt launchers (similar to Star Wars Turbolasers) and missiles (like Spatial Torpedoes from Ennterprise). Their weapons tech was even weaker than that in the reboot because all they had in that series were ballistic weapons. Against a torpedo that holds 1kg of deuterieum and 1kg of antideuterium, each suspended in an 11-dimensional membrane and released upon each other at the optimal moment, no Cylon BaseStar stood a chance.

[@EnterprisezJ]

Wooow!!! Thank you so much!! I'm so honored my old video is still attracts so many fans!! You are the reason why I am making all these videos. I'm having a long pause again here.. Had a higly mentally traumatized experience recently. I was devastated. But I'm getting better.

[@AvroBellow]

@@EnterprisezJ I was always honoured that you made it for us. I can't imagine how many hours (I mean months) of painstaking work went into its production. You EARNED my praise my friend. I can say that EVERYBODY that I have shown your video to are completely transfixed by it until it's over. It's so well done that they CAN'T look away (and I don't blame them, neither can I). Eight years ago, I said this: "This is truly a masterpiece. You have shown incredible talent. Imagine what you could have done with professional-level graphics workstations and advanced CGI animation software. You're bound for great things my friend, great things." I said this because your work is objectively superior to even PIXAR. YOU should have been the one that Paramount hired to do the CGI for Star Trek: Prodigy because the quality of the animation in this ten year-old video is objectively SUPERIOR to that of today's Star Trek: Prodigy show. This even puts Clone Wars and Rebels to shame. All this time later, I come across it again and even though my original comment went unnoticed, I just had to praise this masterpiece again. It still blows my mind, really.

[@AvroBellow]

@@EnterprisezJ I'm sorry I didn't get to address your second part but I was in a mad rush and then forgot. I'm truly sorry to hear that you had something terrible happen and I'm very glad to hear that you're getting better.

[@christopherdavis9323]

Awesome! Lasers against phasers! Nukes against quantum torpedoes! No shields against navigation shields (the federation starships don't even NEED their deflector screens except to defend against ramming attacks, and then you'd have tractor beams to stop those!)

[@Todd.P]

That didn't seem to help the USS Odyssey when the Dominion fighter decided to ram it....

[@DanFiebiger]

Disclaimer: Coming out of hyperdrive so close to other ships is extremely dangerous without the latest state-of-the-art navigation programs. Kids, do not try this at home in your own ships.

[@flowerlord0]

You forgot, starfleet don't use hyperdrives, they use warp drives.

[@DanFiebiger]

@@flowerlord0 Depends on what model carburetors Starfleet could afford to shove into each Enterprise model as it was hastily being built to battle various ST enemies. (Joke.) My bad for terminology error, but maybe "hyperdrive" is just a generic term for any faster than light power system that could apply to any Sci-Fi universe? Discuss this at the next ComiCon in San Diego and lemme know what official Star-Trek fandom decides about the word "hyperdrive".)

[@stonesie81]

Apparently Starfleet have the technology to arrive on mass kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3LVlZ6tit6Kl5I

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

@Erik Mikkelsaar nah in st their warp drive requires a lower parallel of space to work called subspace. This space is like real space except the stuff don't have the light speed limit. The warp fired not only affects normal space, but also affects subspace. It's subspace that allows the st ships to travel at the crazy speeds they are at. Otherwise there can only go warp 1.1 max.

[@aiosquadron]

@@DanFiebiger I think the generic term is FTL drive. (Faster than light drive)

[@Roosauec]

Cylons: *destroy Galactica and begin attacking the floatilla* "Why do I hear boss music?"

[@Akutenshi1990]

Why do I hear DARK SOULS BOSS MUSIC?!

[@spaceengineeringempire4086]

Why is there Latin chanting.

[@TheNatorgator73]

I've had this video bookmarked for ages, and especially after seeing the Enterprise-D return in Picard S3, it astonishes me that this video still holds up over a decade later. The lighting on the Starfleet ships is absolutely fantastic and to me your Enterprise-D looks better here than it did in Picard. Absolutely wonderful, and I hope you do another one of these videos someday!

[@EnterprisezJ]

Ohh wow, thank you so much✨🙏 Yes, I’m still planning to make more, though I set a bar of quality pretty high for myself and now I postpone the big projects before I learn some new important things

[@edwardrhoades6957]

@@EnterprisezJ There is the issue of having both the Enterprise-D and the Enterprise-E show up.

[@AenVegra]

@@EnterprisezJ Also agreed with the D- You could've also handled fleet mechanics a little better. Perhaps the Magellan getting too cocky and rushing in-only to be hit with enough nukes to actually do damage to its shields (and down them) through sheer weight of fire, and have it get covered by one of the capital ships (Big Es) while the shields regenerate and it potshots their centers of mass with photons. Something like that would've been cool. Because, though BSG's nukes are really not that strong compared to photons... they're within one order of magnitude. Which means that you could *technically* overwhelm a Star Trek shield with sheer weight of fire from nukes. Though you'd need a lot of them. And consecutively too. Or else the shields would just regenerate.

[@ECUSFodollah]

This is incredible work. I commend you for having the idea, vision and for seeing it through. This is a masterpiece. Thank you for creating this.

[@tonylaw5036]

I concur. And the music soundtrack is superb. Very moving stuff. My favorite is right after the Cylon basestar escapes and I hear an excerpt from the movie "Gladiator". Excellent choice all around.

[@SomeCenturio93]

Wow! One of the best crossovers ever and it's nice seeing the Federation help out and take on the Cylons. Really good work.

[@EnterprisezJ]

+Nostalgia: The Video Game Thanks!!

[@josephamendolea3431]

although I would've loved to see the Galactica ram the one they damaged.....I imagine Worf looking on from the Enterprise-D (which warped in just as the collision is happening) and howling out a welcome to Sto'Vo'Kor for those honored dead

[@christopherbridges6963]

You are absolutely correct it is one of the best crossover I love your comment good job this crossover is super awesome I love it they should have made a movie out of this. just like Alien versus Predator it should be Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica taking on the cylons and other alien ships

[@TheLenaweeTrekker]

This is how the Colonial Fleet should have found Earth. Though it is sad to see the great lady Galactica go down, but see served her purpose and went down in glory.

[@TheLSK]

Be even better to have Adama and Picard meet face to face. An instant friendship.

[@jeffburnham6611]

I dont think she would have gone down so easily. The original Galactica did have multiple laser batteries and point defense weapons, plus limited shielding.

[@I_am_Diogenes]

So you can not exist unless you have a purpose ? or does that only count when talking about planetary assets ? Eiffel Tower serves no purpose , should we tear it down ?

[@phantomactual8916]

I know wrong version but so say we all!

[@ethanspaziani5269]

@@null643 hahah yes ! Exactly although it really was a kick in the stomach to watch it get blown up the Galactica went down swinging

[@Alamandorious]

Boy, after seeing the Enterprise D in ST:P, the scene of the Enterprise charging to the rescue here holds a lot more meaning than ever before.

[@ChristianIce]

Loved both series, but there is a 300 years technology gap between...a battlestar would be destroyed in few seconds...but, hey...if Batman can beat Superman... :)

[@SuperJCBDigger]

300 years? No, it's actually thousands of years - BSG finishes in Africa in pre-history. Also loved both series and wish there was something else worth watching apart from re-runs :-)

[@ChristianIce]

SuperJCBDigger I am talking about 300 years of technology gap, but, yes, it's supposed to be 150,400 yrs...day more, day less :)

[@ChristianIce]

***** He's right. In the original series the battlestar reached planet earth 30 years after the destruction of the colonies, said to be in 1950 (earth calendar). And now the Nerditude is killing me, I need a Beer :D

[@Baseshocks]

ChristianIce Chills... most of us try to forget that part of BSG, Dr Z O.o lol...

[@ChristianIce]

Baseshocks You can't, as you can't erase the memory of Shatner overacting with a big red light coming from nowhere and a zoom on his face with dramatic music. :D

[@DavidWatersJames]

1 Runabout is all you'd need.

[@mrbacchus6127]

@@firstname9954 lol

[@kazadori164]

@@firstname9954 ya then it would be a fair fight :-)

[@HacksignKT]

@@firstname9954 omg xD

[@Slopmaster]

Backed up by some Marquis fighters.

[@0xKruzr]

@@Slopmaster the Maquis would shred the Cylons with a quickness if their ship in Star Trek Online is any indication, lol.

[@matthewstreets9662]

The Federation is far more advanced. Those Cylon toasters never stood a chance.

[@PericlesASSerpa]

Galáctica conta a origem da humanidade. Star Trek é o que veio milhares de anos depois disso. Os ciloneos de de 150 mil anos atrás não tem chance, e mesmo assim deram trabalho. Kkkk

[@adrianfisher3349]

If I remember correctly, the humans had better tech than the Cylons at the start of BSG, or at least on par so they used their human form Cylon to infiltrate and remove that obstacle so what's to say they couldn't do something similar here?

[@glenmassey3746]

Worf: Sir a low level virus has been detected and stopped. Tactical analysis shows Cylon technology is no threat to us. Riker: Ships do not have shields and one photon torpedo each should destroy the Cylon ships. Picard: Tell the fleet to lower power out put of phasers and photons to negligible levels. I don't want them to know our full power yet. Riker: Fleets responded and standing by. Picard:Fire

[@twrex76nt]

Did anyone else imagine hearing Picard, Riker, Data and Worf calling out commands and damage reports during that scene!? Awesome job!

[@imkluu]

I kept waiting for them to happen.

[@josephamendolea3431]

@@imkluu Worf would've been like "Damage report? What damage report? Those ships can't even scratch our navigational deflectors. Heck they're even having trouble with that science vessel's shields!"

[@davyt0247]

I sure did

[@Nadelkopf666]

Yes, I can hear them. And now it's time for Star Trek: TNG. ( =

[@onlashukshugaharra6779]

Seriously, a Galaxy Class vessel with what, a Type-10 phaser array. Goes up against 4 Cylon Raiders, and it takes 4-6 seconds to obliterate that puny fighter craft? Are you kidding me?! That is so unrealistic. I don't care if it is done for cinematic affect. That's just wrong. As soon as that Type-10 phaser would have touched that little ship it would be vaporized instantly.

[@aurora8orialis]

Gone reduced to atoms

[@TheBigExclusive]

I think you aren't being fair here. A Galaxy Class ship lost to 1 Jem'Hadar fighter. And another was destroyed by a single Bird of Prey. And Voyager got swarmed by smaller fighter ships too. Yes, even with their phasers with advanced targeting, Voyager still couldn't hit all the fighters, or missed. If massive swarm of fighters attacks a Federation ship, there is a chance the Federation ship can be overwhelmed by smaller numbers -- even with phasers and good targeting.

[@jarrodskufcagaming5203]

@@TheBigExclusive You are wrong there. Fighters are too weak. there weapons would deplete. So actually you are not being fair here.

[@addisonchow9798]

Maybe a good explanation is the cylon ships are made of other material and may be more adapted to energy weapons. As a result, phasers take longer to kill due to not being adapted to the optimal frequency.

[@snelhestarna]

@joe bloggs Not to mention that fighter was from a polity which matched or had technological advantages over the Federation. TNG showed what lasers could do... not even penetrate the navigational shield or pose any threat to the Enterprise D

[@DavidWatersJames]

Phasers must have been using 1/10th power here. Torpedo yield at 1/50th as well. Star Fleet knew they were greatly 'outclassing' their opponents, so were "pulling-punches" in a big way. Otherwise, it would have been over in 60 seconds or less. Cylons would be good (Battle Practice) for Klingon Children on Bird-of-Prey training cruises !

[@LarryH54]

@@firstname9954 Of course, target drones are another matter entirely. ;)

[@darkmatter1152]

@@firstname9954 yes they would it's a cyber robot race just target practice

[@davidjames1063]

Exactly. The weapons at FULL yield would have ended this in under a minute. The Original Enterprise alone would have won. The Defiant itself would have obliterated each Battlestar with ONE pass.

[@Pedgo1986]

@@davidjames1063 Easy to fix. Cylon ships are vulnerable to kinetic weapons but are constructed from rare material which make them very resistant to directed energy weapons. Here plot fixed :D

[@sadiqahmed4143]

@@Pedgo1986 OKAY FIRE THE ANTI MATTER. PHOTON TORPEDOES NOTHING BUT PURE ENERGY CAN STOP THEM

[@alyssonrowan6835]

"Mr Worf, keep the phasers tuned real low, photon torpedos initiator only and no yield. Oh, and call in a few friends, we simply HAVE to share this one." That one ship that got damaged? Pilot error - it was hit by a big lump of debris.

[@marcziegenhain8420]

"And don't worry Mr. Worf, this time you can't fail targeting the enemy."

[@alyssonrowan6835]

Trouble is that a capital ship's phasers on full power would punch through the other side of a cylon ship ... and risk friendly fire incidents. Besides, you need to do more damage than a through-and-through.

[@roepi]

@@marcziegenhain8420 If there is too many of them you can always hit them with the Beasty Boys. It worked for Kirk after all.

[@stevencohen624]

I can't get enough of this video. It is simply fantastic! Too bad about the Galactica though. I would have loved to have seen Adama shake hands with Picard. Magnificent job. :)

[@EnterprisezJ]

Wow, thank you very much!

[@stevencohen624]

EnterprisezJ You're welcome. :)

[@Ind3structabl3Hunt3r]

EnterprisezJ it's not star trek unless the enterprise-e is doing barrel rolls

[@tonylaw5036]

I agree. Commander Adama and Captain Picard: both alike in dignity.

[@realitycheck1018]

Dude! That was the coolest thing I've seen yet. Seek for any sense? It was perfect. As both a BSG and Star Trek fan, to see the human fleet rescued by the Enterprise as they finally near Earth space (I'm picturing the outer edge of Federation territory) was a far better ending than any other BSG portrayal I've ever seen. My gawd, that was 2 of my greatest fantasy's colliding as one brilliant MASTERPIECE. My only regret being that I didn't see this in 2012! I Hope you are being paid my friend. THIS is what I expect in movies. And the CGI blows away everything. Even the big Hollywood productions fail to capture what we imagine as space battles. This was better than Star Wars. I love how you choreograph both the battlestars losing fight and then the coordinated entry of the superior federation ships. Man my was heart was leaping. I haven't felt an emotional pang in a movie since the original release of Jaws. And the defiant, I can just see in my mind Worf calling for "Attack pattern, Riker 3!" Perfect use of multiple shield generators and deflective strategy. You used their phasers perfectly. Their photon missles and blasters better than any movie I've seen. Man, I thank you for this work. Thank you sir!

[@missinginaction2b]

IF only Galactica held on until the federation got there.😟

[@ethanspaziani5269]

Yeah it was sad to watch her go but she went down swinging and at least left them with something to think about

[@SaulOhio]

I was sorry to see there were no Vipers left. Starbuck and Apollo are gone.

[@infamouskitcat3937]

Enterprise E: "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"

[@Zamolxes77]

No no no no !

[@HorizonSniper__]

Do a barrel roll!

[@Moon_Cricket_Stinks]

It does allow rotating arches of fire from the different banks.

[@natsume-hime2473]

@@Moon_Cricket_Stinks Basically, it's just minimizing the delay between each shot. Taking advantage of the Sovereign class's insane agility and fantastic inertial dampeners.

[@scarypineapple8608]

Even the Defiant was spinning and nothing was even shooting at it.

[@theloniousMac]

Totally got goosebumps when the Enterprise shows up and protects the convoy.

[@scott6421]

This was actually very good.. and yes I nit pick.. only nit pick I have of this is that the enterprise would of destroyed the cyclone fighters alittle faster... otherwise.. this was good. Would of been even better if some of the galactica survived and got to earth and then they saw 20 more star fleet vessles waiting with the space station! .. still this is a very good video!

[@balrighty3523]

8:18 You can almost hear the E-D saying "Fear not, citizens, hope has arrived. Because I am here!"

[@PhoenixBird9000]

Absolutely stunning video, especially from 2012. I wish this had come up in my play list sooner. Finally a video where someone understands what shields do, and how Starfleet ships would actually fight in a realistic scenario. My only criticism would be that the Cylon ships should have popped a bit quicker, but that would have just shortened the video. Great work!

[@stevenreyngold1166]

Picard, "We have engaged the Borg, errr ummm, correction the Cylons." Response from Starfleet Admiral, "WHO?"

[@shady8479]

This is incredible the ending brought me to tears, i kid you not, brilliantly executed, expect to see more of this incredible imagery , i adore space battles, and im a girl in case you think its a guy crying

[@rolandet]

I think lots of guys pinked a tear after seeing Galactica destroyed 😥

[@bmused55]

The Phaser arrays on the Enterprise D would vaporise the raiders in an instant. It would not take such a prolonged burst to do it. That spoiled this for me. Otherwise it would have been faultless

[@143067]

Agreed, this would have been over in less than 10 minutes

[@prelien4690]

You know what spoiled this for me there being sound in space.

[@jlomesou]

@@prelien4690 Ok, Harlen Ellison.

[@asheer9114]

@@prelien4690 Then MUTE the sound and you will get 100% realistic space battle. 😏

[@davidjakiela9553]

Remember the Giants of Galileo 7? . They were resistant to phaser fire. Lasers and plasma weapons burn thru their target. Phasers attack the glue that holds things together at a sub atomic level. The cylons ships may very well be resistant to phaser fire.

[@Arbitraryshoe49]

Although the Phasers are way underpowered in this, I do enjoy how you made them fire. I was always like “why don’t they just fire from all Phasers strips or multiple from the same strip”

[@GeoRyukaiser]

I see it kind of like this; each phaser array can only support a certain powerload, any more then that and they start to burn out. Firing more then one beam per array could burn them out faster or just weaken the all the beams to the point they wont be effective. Or like the original Yamato Class (not the version based on the Galaxy) where is had super phasers that could blow away just about any other ship around at the time, but it would completely drain the ship of all power to fire them.

[@jiyu9694]

Each "strip" can only fire from one place at a time, and firing multiple beam phasers at the same time takes a toll on energy supplies.

[@thomas.parnell7365]

@@jiyu9694 could say the same why did they not just beam 5 quantum torpedoes aboard key positions around each cyclon ship .at same moment at least cripple them .

[@jiyu9694]

@@thomas.parnell7365 True, but it isn't necessary. Another thing this video has wrong (and it started with the same mistake in The Wrath of Khan movie, and was perpetuated in TNG) is the POWER of even TOS era phasers and photon torpedoes, let alone the uppowered phasers and quantum torpedoes of the NG Era. First, photon torpedoes travel at WARP speed (faster than light speed). That's how they can target a ship flying at warp. This was shown many times in TOS. So it would be impossible to "shoot down" a photon torpedo before it hits its target. Even phasers only travel at the speed of light and could never hit a photon torpedo except by pure accident. Second, a photon torpedo detonation isn't a chemical explosion like a present day submarine torpedo. It's a matter-antimatter explosion HUNDREDS of times more powerful than any nuclear bomb. Even a nearby explosion would heavily damage, if not destroy, any unshielded ship. A single direct hit would obliterate ANY size unshielded ship. In TOS, a single 23rd Century starship was said to have the power to completely devastate the surface of an entire planet. This battle would have been over with the very first volley of torpedoes from the Federation fleet. Third, phasers aren't lasers. They don't burn through the target. They are disintegration beams that cause a chain reaction in the target which severs the molecular bonds between atoms and sends them flying apart. Again, one single hit on an unshielded ship, and that ship simply ceases to exist. This was also shown multiple times in TOS. Fourth, in TOS all starships of the Trek major powers are able to engage in combat at warp speed. They don't have to drop to sub-light speed and slug it out like wooden sailing ships. And they travel at warp speed in NORMAL space by creating a warp bubble around their ships. BG ships can only exceed light speed by opening a gate into another dimension (i.e., hyperspace). In normal space, they can only travel at sub-light speed, and their weapons also travel no faster than light. So they not only couldn't avoid being hit by ST weapons, they couldn't hit ST ships fighting at warp speed, and wouldn't even be able to see the ships that were destroying them. To ST ships fighting at warp, BG ships AND their weapons would look like they were frozen in place. They would be sitting ducks, so this battle would be over before the BG ships even knew it had begun. Now, the creators could revise this again to disable not only ST shields, but also their warp drives, but that wouldn't change the huge difference in the power of their weapons. It's fun to watch, and really very well done, but it's silly. The difference in the level of tech used by the two sides is simply enormous. The BG universe wouldn't stand a chance.

[@Wortheins]

@@jiyu9694 TNG Retconned the Torpedo thing and phaser thing to a degree when flying at warp, although correct in the fact that this battle would be over in a matter of seconds, even with just the gaaxy class as the only ship fighting the cylons, 1- Photon torpedoes do not travel at warp, they have warp sustainment coils, that will allow them to fly at warp if they were fired during warp, but this also spends fuel that could be used for the M/AM reaction in the warhead. 2- Phasers cannot be fired at warp because the subspace disruption renders them almost useless. 3- a ship at warp cannot fight a ship traveling on impulse, at warp you are essentially in a space distortion bubble, you can match this distortion and fight other ships at warp, but not outside of this TOS was great for world building but not for rule setting, that was the realm of TNG, just watch Conundrum episode of tng

[@007racerdude]

This is really good the beauty of the animation along with how gracefully the ships move just very well done sir

[@ChristopherFGibson]

Thank you for making this Video, I enjoyed it very much. It did provoke an emotional response from me that most tings don't. The Music as they "colonial" fleet arrives at Earth was perfect, it mixed joy that the people of the 12 Tribes must have felt and the sorrow they felt remembering back on all of those who sacrificed their lives to get them there. Very well done. Thank you again.

[@DarlaLathan]

Cool! Enterprise avenges Galactica and takes the Ragtag Fleet to Earth. Awesome crossover/mashup!

[@NeoTodesklingel]

*Sooo sad* seing the Galactica getting destroyed *:'(* I was all like _" _*_N~OOOoooo!! ; _ ;_*_ "_ But then, luckily, "the Impossible happened" and the Star Federation came, saving the remaining Human Fleet, just as the Cylons were about to start massacring the helpless Civil Ships! Heartwarming Cross-Over of the Universes! *:' )*

[@firestorm165]

The old girl gave as good as she got right up till the very end

[@ht3oldnavy]

this mass ending warp scene always gets me all teary eyed.

[@cinsay3765]

I've never commented on a KZbin video before. But... well done. You clearly put a lot of work into this, and it was fun to watch. I particularly like your three-dimensional thinking, and willingness to roll spacecraft. Also, it was nice to see these refugees get pulled into a benevolent universe where people had the power to protect them. Nice job.

[@EnterprisezJ]

+Cinsay thank you very much! By the way, there is more fin CG clips on my channel and I'm working on some projects right now, they'll be ready soon.

[@NeoTodesklingel]

*Sooo sad* seing the Galactica getting destroyed *:'(* I was all like _" _*_N~OOOoooo!! ; _ ;_*_ "_ But then, luckily, "the Impossible happened" and the Star Federation came, saving the remaining Human Fleet, just as the Cylons were about to start massacring the helpless Civil Ships! Heartwarming Cross-Over of the Universes! *:' )*

[@Fitzpatrick65]

Commander Pavel Chekov: So, this is goodbye. Kirk: I think its about time we got underway ourselves. Commander Nyota Uhura: Captain, I have orders from Starfleet Command. We're to put back to Spacedock immediately ... to be decommissioned. Spock: If I were human, I believe my response would be "go to Hell." If I were human. Chekov: Course heading, Captain? Kirk: Second star to the right and straight on till morning.

[@m.martinez8400]

😢

[@Fitzpatrick65]

@@m.martinez8400 True Star Trek Fans: We are only human, Yeah we will get choked up when we hear these lines and other's from the original cast members.

[@DrownedInExile]

Amazingly well done! "This is not war. This is pest control!"

[@michaelhawthorne8696]

This animation never gets old, I have seen this many times..... One thing I never noticed before was they managed an awesome job on this animation then at the last second....they spelled "Watching" wrong I kid you not... 22:31 This animation is on a par or better than the battles depicted in DS9

[@AidanPryde09]

no it's not. not even close. While I can appreciate the work that went into it, there are some glaring issues. floating fire textures and the firing angle of the Defiants Phasor Cannons to name 2

[@zach7948]

Galaxy-class phasers fire differently too.

[@williamsteveling8321]

@@AidanPryde09 I get the OP's point here, though. Given time this artist could definitely run a special effects studio. The actual sequence was ambitious here.

[@noslack1964]

Don't fight, just enjoy the space battle. If you could command one of these ships, which one would it be and why?

[@raymo32]

Don't worry we still wathed it 😉

[@msjohncox]

So incredibly beautiful. The Thirteenth Tribe coming to the rescue and destroying the Cylon fleet. I could watch this all day long. Very meticulously researched and rendered. I want more!

[@csi1392]

A FITTING END TO THEIR JOURNEY, SINCE THE HELP IS WHY THE JOURNEY WAS UNDERTAKEN IN THE FIRST PLACE

[@retluoc]

This depiction is almost 100% accurate. BSG ships have superior hulls but they lack shields, and their weapons are much weaker than Federation weapons. It even took them an eternity to collapse that science vessel's shield, and when they did, that vessel hid behind the Sovereign class ship...I loved that part!

[@Ind3structabl3Hunt3r]

retluoc the science vessel's shields had the lowest shielding unit active in starfleet, as said in Voyager, lasers do literally nothing to star trek shields. every ship except the magellan class was invulnerable.

[@valenrn8657]

retluoc Star Trek ships has superior planet surface busting results i.e. Romulan D'deridex class. There are few UFP ship class that rivaled Romulan D'deridex class e.g. Akria, Defiant and Prometheus classes. i.e. Federation warships.

[@christoffelmiddel6663]

retluoc not 100% more like 80% The mass effect soundtrack didn't fit the action because mass effect! And the defiant foward phaser banks are a little wrong.

[@fim-43redeye31]

"Shields have collapsed, Captain! By the time we reinitialize it, we'll be in pieces!" "Hide behind that big ship over there!"

[@QUADEeee]

+retluoc it would take 300 more eternity for them to collapse the combat vessel's shields.

[@fairwinds610]

A Galaxy-class ship pops into view; the Cylons, "Holy cyber-shit, what's THAT!"

[@Lsd911]

Yep that would be my reaction

[@matthewbrune5490]

If I was a Astronaut and saw a Galaxy-Class or whatever outside the ISS, i’d call Cape Canaveral and get them to aim a space-telescope at the ship to see if it was the Big-E

[@blazingpedals]

Colonial 1: Great, now a cruise ship is going to try to rescue us. Colonial 2: It just decelerated at 3.5 million Gs. Can you do that?

[@theodorehaverson5079]

Then, the Sovereign Class ... ;-)

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

They shat a brick when a defiant showed up. They be like: What the hell is that! Such a small ship, yet with an even higher powers signature than the first ship!

[@Inlitener]

Wow! The amount of time and talent displayed here is breathtaking! Amazing job! 🎉❤️

[@loriddekkar1108]

Moment of silience for Adama.

[@plucas1]

Just the Enterprise-D versus the three Cylon Base Stars I thought could be kind of an even fight. But then the other ST ships showed up, including a freaking Defiant-class ship, and I was like, "The Feds are going to carve up those Cylons like turkeys."

[@jochentram9301]

Nah. Classic BSG still thinks nuclear weapons are a big deal. Meanwhile, Starfleet stopped using nukes in favour of significantly more powerful photon torpedos. A Galaxy can take a number of hits from photons before the shields go down. Nukes would barely register.

[@Elthenar]

@@jochentram9301 Yup. There is a vast difference in power between Star Trek and BSG.New BSG still uses chemically propelled cannons, missiles with chemical explosive warheads and the occasional nuke. Old BSG, like what is here, uses lasers but even that would do nothing to a Galaxy class. In one episode, they even mention that lasers can't even penetrate their navigational sheilds, much less their fully powered deflectors. Then add in all of the other high tech tricks the Enterprise has, like transporters, holograms....whatever.

[@jochentram9301]

@@Elthenar NuBSG is about a step and a half ahead of current real-life tech. Jump drive, some form of continuous-thrust sublight drive, artificial gravity, probably fusion reactors to power all that, genuine AI. Star Trek is the sort of civilisation that never built Dyson spheres because they don't need to. Antimatter power, energy fields to help hold the ships together, directed-energy weapons capable of slicing the average asteroid in half, never mind what disruptors do . . . Mind, the jump drive would be of some interest, since it operates on a completely different principle than the warp drive. Depending on whether the thing can be scaled up to teleport something like a Galaxy or Sovereign a couple hundred lightyears, it may be very interesting indeed from an operational perspective - being able to just jump an attack fleet from Earth to Romulus would be a game changer.

[@Elthenar]

@@jochentram9301 I can see that. I don't think it was ever specified how far a battlestar can go in a single jump though. It's possible that the jump drive is effectively faster than Star Trek warp drive.

[@jochentram9301]

@@Elthenar Operationally, possibly, depending on range and recharge time. That was, IIRC, an issue in at least one episode of nuBSG, that you need time to run the navigational calculations (less of an issue, given Starfleet computing tech) and time to spool up the drive. Tactically, the ability to rapidly reposition for a different angle of attack using a micro-warp jump confers an advantage, especially since Starfleet (and Klingon, Romulan, etc.) ships can switch from warp to impulse at the flick of a switch. You could do the same with a micro-FTL jump, but that depends on whether recharge time is merely a question of how much power you have to spare, or if, as with BattleTech's Kearney-Fuchida Drive, you risk damaging the drive if you recharge it too quickly. Incidentally, K-F drives are limited to 30 lightyears per jump, can only jump from a gravitationally neutral spot and take several hours to recharge, at best.

[@ckbne]

Some of the best footage ive seen. Well done guys. Couldnt take my eyes off the screen.

[@straycat1674]

Something tells me that the cylon base stars are being given way too much credit and taking way too much damage than they actually would be able to.

[@dragonfiregaming9525]

LOVE THIS VIDEO!!!!! CAN'T EVEN COUNT HOW MANY TIMES I'VE WATCHED IT. AWESOMENESS!!!!!

[@shella3244]

While its always nice to see so many ships engaged in combat, the enterprise would have had this cylon/turkey shoot sorted on its own lol

[@scotthanson9563]

I love this. It’s sad to see the Galactic get destroyed but I can picture the dialogue. This captain Picard of the enterprise all allied forces within range we have civilian rescue mission. All available Captains please respond. Amazing work I can’t get enough g this cinematic crossover. Outstanding job.

[@menomoney2474]

ima be honest the phasers of the federation ships are too underpowered but the way the phasers fire are incredible and the art is beautiful its like its part of the series

[@TalkingAboutYooh]

I'll say this, you know how to make use of a 3-dimensional environment. Trek shows treat space combat as if it's on a 2-dimensional plane.

[@Idazmi7]

Only TNG made space battle look two-dimensional.

[@flowerlord0]

They did that probably to save budget so the animators don't have to panic when a ship moved so fast.

[@thumperpaul155]

I always wondered why they never encounter another ship upside down, sideways or top down. There is no up.

[@JohnFourtyTwo]

Don't forget the lack of Newtonian physics in Star Trek, BSG 2005 & B5 got that one right.

[@vexile1239]

Star trek online

[@BobBuesking]

great animation, but a couple of quantum torpedoes and it's game over.

[@patricksiegler5751]

Cle Jons yes, quantum torpedoes were used as well as the photon (regular antimater) torpedoes. Photons are orangy red while quantums are blue. I think tricobalt devices are also bluish

[@patricksiegler5751]

***** the blue torpedo at 10:46 is a quantum torpedo

[@ChemicleExplosion]

Fuck quantum torpedos! Just use trans-phasic!

[@Amardarial]

A couple, try one torpedo period. BSG era ships get one shot by conventional nukes, anything kirk era forward would be overkill.

[@SirScarfalot]

Most ships of that era, sure, but the heavy battlestars are built to tank several nukes, and have done exactly that. They can probably tank a torpedo. Being unshielded though, they'd have real problems against the phasers; armor or not, they'd melt and fail under the energy assault sooner or later. More importantly they'd have pretty much no options to even get to the armor of the federation ships, much less penetrate for damage. Their only hope would be boarding operations, but that's one heckuva long shot.

[@thekaz2289]

To quote Darth Vader: "Impressive." I loved this. Very fun. I was especially impressed with the exterior warp effect at 1:33. Great video as a fan of ST and the original BSG, this was great!

[@arielb5317]

I love the attention the Enterprise-E got!! Obviously a favorite of the creator of this content!! That was fun to watch!!

[@vectorbrony3473]

We really need Star Trek back on TV

[@stephenhand9503]

they are star trek renegades cbs 2014

[@sinbreaker2885]

And be 21st century production quality like Game of Thrones and Battlestar Galatica were.

[@sinbreaker2885]

***** It seems you are stuck in your generation time-frame. I understand, it is a natural human condition. Star Trek has been sex-filled since the beginning. And people want more sophisticated characters. It has to evolve or die.

[@stevencohen624]

***** Hi, Idazmi, how are you? I'm Enterprise160. Isn't this video awesome?! It's sad that the Colonial fleet lost Adama, but they're in good hands with Jean Luc Picard. :)

[@DantesonofSparda85]

don't forget Benjamin "motherfucking" Sisko

[@heyskra]

I've seen a few other videos like this, thank you for having the Federation ships have shields.

[@russellbingham5819]

Extremely well done! Unlike in other such videos, the Starfleet ships are shown using all their weapons AND shields. This video I LIKE!💀

[@scott6421]

Like most say, Federation ships would destory the cyclon vessels much faster... and actually take out the cannons of the cyclon ships then destroy the ship. Cyllon ships might be much bigger, but almost no shields and Fed ships could of scanned where to hit things.

[@MockingjayYT]

To quote Commander Riker: "One photon torpedo ought to do it."

[@spacetechempire510]

To quote Kirk “a single torpedo per ship should do the job” kelvin timeline kobioshi moru test

[@calvin8201]

Hmm they appear to have no shields beam a torpedo onto their bridge and detonate it

[@borghome]

The moral of the lesson is don't fuck with the Federation!

[@QUADEeee]

OMG THAT SO BADASS 1 SUB 2 YOU

[@lexthelegend1455]

You know what? Know I know why your called thuglife... Already subbed

[@crispycritterz]

LoL. Defiant alone could have handled this.

[@AlphaJman]

I personally think voyager alone could handle it.

[@crispycritterz]

Janeway with a sharp stick? Yeah... she's got this.

[@davidapoland]

Picard would want to find a diplomatic solution and Janeway would decide it was unethical to use to much firepower. Hopefully Sisco, Kirk, or Archer would be in charge.

[@AlphaJman]

David Poland I assumed if this actually happened yes they would take the diplomatic solution but maybe because the dis- belief and stubbornness of the cylons it probably wouldn't work.

[@jackclements2163]

David Poland Nah you're assuming Starfleet hadn't appraised the fleet of the situation and issued orders to use deadly force. Diplomatic approaches were only ever applied BEFORE aggression. Ever see Picard in First Contact ask the Borg if they'd mind being ever so nice and stopping their attack? Nope. This video shows thw situation was beyond being saved, use of force is a final solution the only one left to apply.