Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast - (Level 8) Nar Shaddaa Streets

[@thomasvleminckx]

Playing for the first time. I finally get my saber, and think "let the slaughter begin!" Then, they immediately drop me in a level full of instant death drops, enemies who throw infinite unblockable grenades (to which they themselves are immune), and those ghastly snipers. The game gives you a great tool, and then immediately replaces all the enemies with enemies against whom the tool is utterly ineffective.

[@drifter402]

Apparently they were going to put the Lightsabre after this level but late in development changed their mind to before.

[@xxdfoster]

Yeah and all the shit that they just assumed you're gonna know. Right Force pull this obscure , completely unidentifiable bridge that's rolled into the also dark and unremarkable wall 😂 kinda pissed I bought this game but ...oh well slogging thru it

[@SpScarletSpider]

I never knew it before but, the Chiss bartender is voiced by Nick Jameson (who did a lot of Emperor Palpatine VA roles in Star Wars games as well), who was Kyle Katarn's first voice actor in the first Dark Forces game. So in essence Kyle Katarn (voiced by Jeff Bennett) is talking to himself, lol.

[@LightningBoltForever]

I never knew that! That's so cool!

[@zork1356]

That's actually very cool little piece of knowledge, after I saw this comment I was watching "The Batman" and the voice of the Joker is also the same voice as Reelo Baruk, and he was also the narrator in Baldur's Gate, voice of Goro in the MK movie and Tartarus from Halo 2.

[@RbkARI]

@@zork1356 Funny you should mention The Batman. Rino Romano, who voices Batman, voiced both Kyle Katarn in Mysteries of the Sith and Revan in KOTOR (yes, he has a few lines during gameplay). And bonus fact, he's not the only voice actor Kyle and Revan share. Jeff Bennet, who voices Kyle in Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy, also voiced Revan in Star Wars: The Old Republic

[@99thJediWarrior]

Hey you're right. I can hear it in his voice. Very Palpatine-like.

[@arbiteras]

Nick Jameson did as well the voice for emperor Palpatine in clone wars.

[@deltaram4584]

I love how everyone in this comment section is complaining about the snipers when the real problem is those damn grenadiers

[@davidrosabal269]

I really hate them

[@deibu__]

Ikr, I don't know what is the purpose to throw a bunch of grenades literally on your feet but that's exactly what they do

[@themindset4164]

Dude their accuracy is absurd

[@mareklonestar7053]

The grenadiers didn't bother me at all. You can jump away from them very easily, unlike the snipers.

[@matthewwatkins4938]

Put them together an life sucks

[@Zdenda1990]

Gotta love how the Cantina song keeps playing even after you kill everybody.

[@witcherjohn3440]

I know it’s late but I think it’s the radio it’s a hit song in the universe

[@Rathori]

Just because everyone's dead doesn't mean the party's over :P

[@eduardocervantes4390]

If you shoot all speakers in the bar, then the music stops 😆

[@arthur_p_dent4282]

My favorite little touch is that when you shoot out the speakers they stop playing the song

[@arthur_p_dent4282]

@@eduardocervantes4390 i loved that little touch.

[@lenviedenfinir3211]

jedi academy is an absolute 'blue milk run, kid' compared to outcast and this level is a perfect example as to why, lol

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

I remember beating the trials and getting my lightsaber and thinking "Aw man, now we're talking! This game's about to get real!" Then the next level was this.

[@HolyknightVader999]

It's basically just like every Halo level with Jackal Snipers.

[@henryhammond7393]

Made it a great game…

[@loafofbread7413]

Lmao the bar fight was insane.

[@artizzy2k2k]

@@henryhammond7393 i hate this nightmare of a game

[@aniotaro47]

C'est exactement ça j'ai envie de crever actuellement 🙂

[@Dead8Artist]

Screw the enemies, those are easy, but the jumps are broken. Kyle doesn't want to jump the way I want him to jump. Sometimes he just does this little mini jump that results in 40 retries.

[@UltimateThanos]

My feelings towards this level are the same as yours. The gritty urban settings with various alien races are my favorite part of Star Wars. (Though the Force has its charm too.) Other than that, I *dread* this level. For all the reasons you mentioned.

[@jimmyggs91]

I like Nar Shaddaa, but this level... damn. Those Rodian Snipers, the 2 last secrets, they make this leve so hard to go in a single run. About the lightsaber color, what you said is correct. Though typing "helpusobi 1" and "sabercolor yellow" you can change it back to its color back in DF2, hehe.

[@LightningBoltForever]

After reading this, I immediately went back into the game and started playing with a yellow lightsaber again, just to kinda relive that DF2 nostalgia haha.

[@spd7693]

JimmyGGS91 Either my least favorite or my second least favorite level of the game. I just loathe it! For obvious reasons.

[@kernell32bcn]

This video brings back so many good memories... This was one of my first computer games ever, and i spent hours playing it, and this was one of my favourite parts. i loved the city, was so cool, and even after i found all secrets and killed everyone, i would just wander around enjoying the views. And i played it many times. It was awesome, thanks.

[@sirborkington1052]

6 secrets in total for this part: 1) 5:37 2) 6:30 3) 16:10 4) 16:52 5) 20:00 6) 21:18

[@YungVato714]

6ths won doesn't work on my Verizon 😅 he clearly glitched up if you put it in slow motion and the actual height that he hit it at is what I hit it at except I don't glitch up like he did😂

[@JoeyCrick]

​@@YungVato714 That's actually a crouch jump. Pressing crouch as you jump will allow you to reach the ledge like he did here.

[@kylewinters8531]

Holy crap man, you're a legend, such a smoothly executed walkthrough. I finished this game a dozen times but Nar Shadda, Artus Topside, Tavion and Desann were always a quicksave/quickload shitfest. The way you're doing them first try on Jedi Knight difficulty is something beyond me.

[@GormanGolf]

Idk why this popped into my head but I just wanted to hear this guy say “trulys”

[@latewizard301]

whenever i'm stuck in one of the Dark Forces games, or i can't remember how to finish a level, i'm glad i got a go-to guy!

[@GummoBCat]

16:13 You can use force speed and it makes this part a ton easier! 19:57 It also makes this part easier!

[@koopanique]

Man I've played this game for almost 20 years and this let's play makes me discover secrets I've never known about

[@Chaldera1]

One minor detail I always liked is that you can shoot/lightsaber throw the speakers in the cantina and damage them, stopping that speaker from playing music.

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

I did not know about the force pushable table in the cantina -how the heck are you supposed to see or think, "Hrrmm..wonder what happens if I do this?" xD

[@Levelermakelevel]

WHAAAAT? I have played that game around 25 times, but I didn't even know that secret existed. Amazing!

[@mikekelley2877]

The bartender suggests a ruby bliel, if you don't know, those are drinks that are purchased by Anakin Skywalker and his friends and a republic pilot a few minutes later in the "episode 1 novelization" by Terry Brooks.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Which makes me think it's something like a cider or a daquiri, where it's got Hard and Virgin versions.

[@thescruffinator8830]

you mean luke?

[@DIEGhostfish]

The sniper in MotS was better because it didn't demand you stay still to charge up, the auto-zoom could detect enemies for you, and story wise it made more sense since other sources all describe disruptors as really short range.

[@andrewmontgomery5621]

I love that famous Mos Eisley Cantina theme from A New Hope playing in the background in the cantina.

[@CarlRaven91]

I love this level! The Cantina song, the whole city looks awesome! But it has some very treacherous jumps and tons of snipers.....

[@cubulous]

I love this series and watch every episode all the way through. THANK YOU for doing this!

[@LightningBoltForever]

Thank you for watching! And you're welcome!

[@tyman3331]

This game is amazing. So ahead of its time. I remember completing it like 10 times back in the day and it still looks fun.

[@lord_beethoven1169]

I remember the headache of avoiding the Rodians in this level.

[@jacobweatherford4696]

That jump by the electrified water had me soo baffled i didnt know we break the wall to get in there.

[@warsthemarvel8608]

Ah the good old Cantina Star Wars themes, right Lightning? The Cantina theme and the Other Star Wars themes is always awesome.

[@mikekelley2877]

The bartender is a "Chiss", just like "Thrawn".

[@pinroshan020]

they have the same species though.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I'm playing for the first time and have been following your vids during every tough spot. Such a great resource, thanks! Not that I, a giant wimp, do every single thing you do. For the cantina part, I consulted this vid to see how to stop dying. As you did, I ran up and to the right...and then found a handy room to hide in, lol. It worked, though!

[@silentxero5955]

Thank you! It's been forever since I last played this and this guide really helped!!!

[@jamesesterline]

This has to be a contender for one of the worst levels in gaming history. One-hit snipers that can instantly kill you, barely any opportunities to use the lightsaber you just got, and it doesn't really make use of the Quake-style gameplay like the rest of the levels in the game. The level design itself is pretty decent admittedly, but goddamn it's so fucking hard and frustrating.

[@KitariItsSomethingRottenHere]

*I started to play this game again after I quit it years ago right on this level and currently I'm here again, wanted to play on Jedi Knight difficulty but I couldn't, game itself at normal level is difficult enough.* *Awesome LP by the way, gonna watch it once I finish the game!*

[@dtxspeaks268]

I recently played it on Jedi knight. All I could say is that Artus Prime, this level, Bespin, the part on the Cairn where you have to jump the other side with the stormtroopers shooting you with rocket launchers, the dark Jedi shadow troopers, and desann will not be a blue milk run.

[@darkAwesome100]

god that last jump is the bane of my existence

[@paulilando2296]

I just beat this level i didnt find it really difficult. When i got to the electric water is where i had to look up this video i didnt realize that was a explosive near the wall. This is my first playthrough and this video helped. Thanks. I only got 2 of the secrets i wasnt stressing about that last one.

[@chainedsharkmedia2699]

So the Rodoian snipers are the jackal snipers from Halo 2?

[@geroffmilan3328]

There's a weird environment glitch to the right of the R1 droid who's next to that switch near the end. Basically you can use it to jump up onto that little basin-like ledge & into the vent/crawlspace, coming at the secret from the other direction. This vid really helped me out with the last part: I had everything else, but failed to remember it was the signals I needed to change to GTFO this hellscape 😂 Still, it has been about 2 decades. Good walkthrough so far.

[@CBS28]

thats hell of a mission

[@davidballantyne5199]

I love the challenge of this level. It’s difficult but it’s a very satisfying crash course to make good use of all your new Jedi skills and use all the advantages of your arsenal. In the end, it’s one of my faves!

[@TheAmazingPotatoMan]

anyone trying to get the final secret, dont use the full force jump, just tap space for a bit and do a crouch jump, thats how i managed to get it.

[@Allu68x]

Thanx A lot, mate! I tried this jump at least two hundred times, and my keyboard started to suffer too much ^_^ After your idea I managed to do this TWICE in a row!

[@RyanDavis-nr2gl]

Lightningboltforever: "when Kyle almost falls to the dark side" Me: * playing with a red lightsaber * "yes.. almost.."

[@themanwhowouldbebrick]

Same lol, good old secret menu

[@grendel824]

I had to give up on that last secret (on PS4). I can only imagine what the neighbors thought was going on in my house at 2am with me screaming "Get in the hole, Kyle! Why won't you get in the @$@# hole!?"

[@LightningBoltForever]

lolololol

[@davidml1787]

I hate this level and love it at the same time :D. Those bloody snipers and grenadiers are a pain in the arse but I like both the atmosphere and how it fits in the game (you just got your lightsaber and force powers back, you may think you are invincible now, and then you get to this place and it laughs at your face; it shows you that you are still far from being godlike).

[@Allu68x]

Now that was sweeet! ^_^ I have just finished the very first run on this game, and it was at many cases pain in the butt. Now I have (again) looked at your gaming and thought I need to redo it with your help. Let's hunt for some secrets! :-)

[@ianwalker2205]

This game was a large part of my childhood and I really wish there was a remaster of 1 and 2 or number 3 D:

[@andrewholm8933]

One of my favourite missions !!! So much fun , love the atmosphere of it

[@caomhan84]

Once I found the cheat codes and learned to turn on decapitations, this I never played this game without them back in the day. It makes the lightsaber more fun.

[@ratchetexperience8379]

True

[@jakobrenner2230]

This level alone is more challenging than the entirety of Jedi Academy

[@dtxspeaks268]

I thought vjun, chandrilla, tanaab, taspir 3, and korriban were challenging too.

[@jakobrenner2230]

@@dtxspeaks268 -Vjun: fairly average; you just have to protect yourself from the rain, blast everything with Lightning and you have Kyle to help you in the first two areas. Also, Ross is very easy to defeat. -Chandrilla: very fun but again not as hard as this level of Jedi Outcast: you have much stronger powers by that point in the game and you are not targeted by snipers from all directions. -Tanaab: a joke; the only thing you have to do is to run and ignore all of the reborn and cultists that get in your way (the rancor will kill them for you). Frankly, the only part you have to fight is in the room of the final part (were you trap the rancor) against three reborn. -Taspir 3: like Vjun on steroids (without the acid rain) and the part the I found challenging is the lava lake full of Hazard Troopers. Still consider it easier than this level of Outcast as the Hazard Troopers are within your range to blast them with Force Lightning to death (while the Snipers is Nar Shaddaa are very far). The Reborn Masters in Taspir can easily be killed by doing Dark Rage+Force Speed, Force Speed+Impale or just spam Impale. Alora is avarege to defeat. -Korriban: fairly averege if you go by the Light Side route. You have tons of Jedi to help you against the cultists and reborn forces, and when you don't have help, they are not very hard. Tavion with the scepter is ridiculously easy to defeat (seriously the fight is incredibly one-sided: all you have to do is dodge her beams, attack her with everything you've got, repeat). Ragnos-possessed Tavion on the other hand is a lot more challenging and can heal very quickly (only four times though), I'd argue that he is the hardest boss in the game (Not as hard as JO's Desann though, as he possesses a near unbreakable Force Grip). The Dark Side route of the game, on the other hand is A LOT more challenging than the Light Side; you are always alone and the Jedi can resist your Dark Side powers, making the game much harder. I'd argue the only part were it becomes more challenging than this Nar Shaddaa level is when you go to the catacombs (very small space to move around) and face off agains four Jedi Masters (yeah, had to reload plenty of times). But for the rest of it, you can just use the reborn and culitists as a distraction for the Jedi to weaken them and then kick their Light-sided asses, before turning on the reborn (the lesser threat) as well. Tavion is still ridiculously easy and Kyle is not as hard as Marka Ragnos (he doesn't possess that nasty Desann-like Lightsaber style or that annoying Dark Rage). Conclution: All in all, Academy is an easier game than Outcast in general

[@dtxspeaks268]

@@jakobrenner2230 of course it is but I was going by a general consensus. I think we can agree that both Outcast and Academy have their fair share of difficult enemies. Outcast has the Rodian Snipers, black coat Imperial officers, rocket launcher shock troopers, red reborn dark jedi, and shadowtroopers. Academy has the hazard stormtroopers, the imperial snipers (easy with the saber but are blaster sponges), force cultists, and disciple dark jedi (the red coat and purple coat ones are the hardest)

[@HolyknightVader999]

Korriban makes this look like a cakewalk.

[@sumthingwikked4257]

I butt fucked Jedi Academy! This game butt fucked me!!?

[@Iron-Bridge]

Love this level for the atmosphere and level design. And the throwback to the Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight level 1. Hate it for the deceptive difficulty even with Force powers.

[@87654321j]

Omg canteena band in the background so nostalgic ☺️

[@arielwilson9293]

I don't know if it was added in this game or academy, but I'm pretty sure that force speed can sometimes allow you to dodge disruptor blasts. I know in academy I have had the game automatically activate force speed for me while engaging enemies with disruptor rifles.

[@Tarkus-Ivalice-dweller]

This level was *really* hard, makes the other ones look like a piece of cake. Extremely accurate snipers that do really high damage, Olympic grenade throwers at every corner, incredible.

[@oronk60]

How did they possibly expect people to figure out what you're supposed to do in this level?

[@andrewames247]

The secret at 5:42 doesn't seem to exist for my PS4 port; could some things have been changed?

[@LightningBoltForever]

It's possible. I wouldn't be surprised if they changed some things around for the PS4 version. That is a bit strange though

[@yeet6957]

Never trust a bartender with bad grammer.

[@lukedemedeiros3026]

Jedis!

[@cosmodash6360]

The Nar Shadaa and Coruscant level from Jedi Academy have very similar themes

[@99thJediWarrior]

Not surprising, considering both games were made by the same developers.

[@isisbarfuss558]

The Rodians here are the ORIGINAL Halo 2 Jackal snipers

[@sirborkington1052]

Thanks mate, really handy on the PS4 port

[@Rhoumbus]

you can move with the scope if you crouch move found out bye myself just randomly

[@WeasolVonDiesel]

Thanks!

[@steviemcdonut]

the only good nar shadda level is the starpad because it feels so good when you finally get out of this hellhole

[@LightningBoltForever]

The next level isn't too bad, but you're right. The Nar Shaddaa levels, while they look cool, aren't really my favorites.

[@steviemcdonut]

But bespin... oh boy does the game get REALLY good when you reach the bespin streets, but then it gets worse on the doomgiver

[@scarpasqualo970]

Admiral Thrawn is a spare time bartender...

[@UniqBlue]

I guess those Rodians heard what happened to their buddy greedo.

[@anti-liberalismo]

I got stuck at the boxes part, which you have to pull and push, when the elevator gets down the window closes and I cannot push the box to make the elevator go up

[@OneRandomVictory]

The jump at 20:27 can be done easier if you aim for the broken ledge of the bridge instead. Though make sure you have the glass broken first.

[@goblin2bis707]

Hard level ! beware of the sniper, this can be done with just a laser saber, but you must be VERY careful in what you are doing !!!!

[@shcdemolisher]

I had ZERO idea that upper bridge secret was there. I had found all the others on my own.

[@jameslewis6430]

The 6th and final secret is accessible by a much easier route on the ledge, at 2-3 o'clock from the R2 unit, through the grill.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Without cheats you can't jump high enough for that.

[@Cheeks730]

Bro this level is sooooooo hard like they don’t miss a single shot

[@weskestis]

Love that the bartender is Thrawns race

[@skywalkerslegacy]

I have no idea how in the hell you get that final secret!!! I'm doing the exact thing you are doing and I still cannot get in there

[@undividedself1]

For reliability need optimal position and orientation prior to jumping . Be positioned about 2/3 of the width back from the right hand edge of the garbage hauler i.e. two thirds of the way back from the edge closest to the wall/chute. Also be turned a little to the right i.e. don't face the wall squarely but turn clockwise a bit first. Then jump + crouch ( plus on my PC keyboard)

[@skywalkerslegacy]

@@undividedself1 thanks for that! Your post reminded me to start playing it again. I bought it on PS4 to get me ready for Jedi Fallen Order

[@undividedself1]

@@skywalkerslegacy You're welcome! Btw son and I played today and we worked out exactly how to successfully jump from the glass bridge to secret area 5

[@akarisaberwolf8762]

I always have trouble with that last one. Lol

[@ACBlackJ0ck]

oml I've been playing this game since it was new and I've never even known about some of these secrets...

[@loafofbread7413]

The secret in the cantina doesn't work. I can't push the tables in. Do you have any idea why that's happening Also for some reason my lightsaber is green

[@samspeaks2016]

What do you do if you miss the buttons on the garbage hauler? There's a kill lock on every surface that isn't on the platform you land on. So unfair, now I have to start over the whole level.

[@BichNickGurrs]

14:55 bestest rodian impersonation Ive ever heard Sirs, mades me laughs.

[@HejaWolf]

I hate this stage with a passion. Honestly, it's so frustrating that I had to stop playing it. The platforming is ATROCIOUS!!!!! The enemies are one thing, but the platforming is absolutely dreadful and why the hell are there no checkpoints?! Nar Shaddaa is just hell and I hope that I will never experience that level again.

[@TotalMeltdown2]

@Starscream91 Why did you feel the need to leave a nasty comment on a random person's post?

[@SiwakSerg]

Have you tried to jump on the ship at the start of the level? This should bring you to the last part of the map. I tried to do it when I found that secret area at the highest point of the level but to no avail.

[@australianvaletraincuthber9294]

Man this level fucking pissed me off

[@lionlyons]

Bolt: Anyway, we're going to need to - *laser blast* Bolt: Yeah, we're going to need to be - *laser blast* Bolt: Dude, what the Hell, man? You're not supposed to be able to see me from there! LOL

[@jobnjoroge7154]

The Steam version I recently purchased did not have the secret area in the main bar area in the first room. Has anyone else experienced that?

[@arneeast4755]

The most memorable sw game dialog evers

[@Bulbman123]

Kinda wish you woulda had full dismemberment enabled, makes the saber combat in this game next level

[@dannybrymer6630]

I just found your channel and I love your playthroughs! It's like your in the room playing while I watch. Will you do a playthrough through the first Dark Forces game? That's the only one I haven't played yet of the four in the series.

[@LightningBoltForever]

Welcome aboard, and thank you! I'm planning on doing DF1 pretty soon actually! Most likely next month after I'm done with Super Mario 64 DS

[@dannybrymer6630]

@@LightningBoltForever awesome! Looking forward to seeing!

[@mathewholloway6235]

Hey lightning bolt, I have been using your videos to help me through this game finding the secrets and find your strategies very useful. Plus your commentary is legend lol. Anyway, I'm playing on GameCube console. Jedi master difficulty and i can't make that jump to the last secret! I know you play on pc but any tips you can possibly help me out with??

[@mathewholloway6235]

Never mind I just got it. Jumped and at the top of my jump arc I mashed duck and jump together and Kyle went right in

[@UltimateThanos]

The disruptor is a funny addition to the game's armory. Typically a disruptor is a Star *Trek* weapon used by non Federation races. The DXR-6 even has the same effect as one of those disruptors. Which is radically different from how they were in Shadows of the Empire. Then again, that game didn't really have any influence on subsequent Lucas Arts releases.

[@DIEGhostfish]

Star Wars has had Disruptors in stories before they went into games. But they were described as really short range.

[@HolyknightVader999]

Star Wars has disruptors all the time. Bounty Hunters and Outer Rim scum use it because it's banned in the core worlds.

[@jamesprince6367]

Bro that part were you jump in off that trash thing into the room can't even make it in there i keep trying but it's not working

[@perryman9587]

What about the air vent with the breakable screen at 19:41 isn't that a secret area?

[@bestinworld83]

Thank you. Total lifesaver.

[@epic-fictionalprojects4394]

I kinda analyzed where all of them stood in the cantina, and i just jumped a lot and used saber throw, and i tried avoiding getting too close to the grans with thermal detonators, good video tho

[@mishganeover]

Thanks for the video. I can't push the table to get access to the secret area. It's just inactive. All other items works fine.

[@undividedself1]

Try 'use' on the table -- Ctrl + E probably

[@sirborkington1052]

@@undividedself1 Thank you so much mate, seriously so helpful, I'm playing on PS4 and doing the find all secrets trophy. Thanks so much, thought it had glitched.

[@wanjanechtangroeger]

Thank you! I had the exact same problem and found the solution here :D @@undividedself1

[@emilsgosko5217]

8:56 "See ya!" 20:45 lol that could have ended badly. Lol you wrecked all the enemies so beautifully in this level. How many times did you fail to get to secret 5? Waiting for more of this LP. Very good nostalgic watch.

[@LightningBoltForever]

It was about 4 or 5 times where I just couldn't make the jump to get back. I'd always manage to get over to the secret every single time but not back lol. That moment at 20:45 will possibly be the scariest moment of this entire LP, because I didn't wanna have to do this level over again. XD

[@pladampa]

Ty 4 the walkthrough

[@LightningBoltForever]

👍

[@Seth9628]

SINCE WHEN IS THERE A PULL OUT PATH BY THE ELECTRIC WATER? I’ve always jumped

[@Rathori]

Same, and I also didn't realize you could turn off the electricity, lol

[@godzillamagenta7121]

The jedi outcast playthrough you should watch.

[@jonahkey9313]

I am actively save-scumming the shit out of this game and I have no regrets

[@parvchetri0995]

Grenadiers and Snipers, my god I hate them so much.

[@christiankopet5891]

This level was so hard 😅

[@vinegartom8380]

When I was a very young pork, playing this game helped me become a real man...

[@hannahjaques8531]

The button that you have to hit to override the route of the garbage compactors isn't working for me. I've tried both force push and pull. Any advice?

[@rinoz47]

gunna go to a bar and ask for an Earth Beer.