Star Wars: ROTJ Works and Rise of Skywalker Doesn't | SCENE FIGHTS

[@danielolsson7134]

Both Padmé and Luke could feel the good in Darth Vader. Luke have more of his mother's personality while Leia's more resembles Anakin.

[@connorroberts6856]

True

[@OhAUM]

Anakin slaughtered a bunch of kids, yeah so much good still in vader.

[@daniellemusella1594]

@@OhAUM He also choked his pregnant wife and tried to kill his best friend, but I've lost count of the amount of people who feel more comfortable seeing HIM redeemed, rather than his own grandson.

[@skilledone3850]

the thing is that Anakin lost control and did this to save her, Palpatine played him hardcore, the light was still in him but he had to be away from palpatine

[@OhAUM]

@@skilledone3850 worst excuse ever. He played him its not his fault. Ill rephrase it in real world context, your wife is dying and a doctor says to you, go to the local school and slaughter a class full of children, then ill save her. Seems like a Nigerian Prince type of deal if you ask me.

[@kevthepoet]

When he says "we knew Palpatine had to be a presence in this movie in some way" that was such a weak justification.

[@BP-dn9nv]

Translation: The Last Jedi didn't leave me much to work with and I'm creatively bankrupt so I needed to pull something out of my ass.

[@InsufficientGravitas]

@@BP-dn9nvThe backstory of the First order is that they were set up by palpatine (to some degree) anyways. Some sealed envelope with secret orders to revive palpatine in some manner would make more sense.

[@starlighter93]

George Lucas collecting ideas for creating the Star Wars movies: Kurosawa movies, Flash Gordon series, The Hero With A Thousand Faces, mythologies and fairy tales, etc. Disney Lucasfilm collecting ideas for creating more Star Wars movies: Star Wars movies.

[@mahiyatsafiyullah7103]

the problem with the sequels was that there was no overlaying storyline like the originals and the prequels. it was just going from one film to another with no idea for a story which was in the end it's shortcoming.

[@mrbluesky1115]

I was literally just talking with my wife and father in law earlier about the emperor returning and the “Save Martha” scene and how both Rise of Skywalker and BVS were terrible. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE THAT BOTH OF THEM WERE WRITTEN BY THE SAME GUY!!!!!!!!

[@gregbasore2108]

"My mother's name is Martha somehow. She had access to all sorts of dark parenting secrets. Forbidden recipes and stuff."

[@kavalkahn]

Yeah, I didn't know this was an offspring of such a genius mind that could make not only one shitty movie, but two.

[@gregbasore2108]

@@kavalkahn The sad thing, is that the basic idea behind the "Martha" scene is a good one. Forcing Bats to recognize that Supes has a mom, just like the mom he loved, that he'd be killing someone's mother if he went down this road, was a great concept. It's in the execution that things fall apart. If Affleck had stopped, looked pale and whispered "Why... why did you say that name?" and Caville responded in a raspy voice "Martha... Kent! My mom. She's gonna die... if you don't help... Martha Kent dies..." that would have landed. Having Afflek scream "WHYDIDYOUSAYTHATNAME!" made it all sorts of ridiculous.

[@tmarsh0307]

@@gregbasore2108 BvS was terrible all around. It was written for all the Batman fans who wanted to see Batman beat the hell out of Superman. Just an awful movie all around.

[@gregbasore2108]

@@tmarsh0307 Naw, that's the sad part. It's mostly terrible, but with enough good ideas in the mix that it could have been something cool in better hands. Bruce's line "I'm older now, than my father ever was" is a golden bit of dialog. Alfred and Perry are golden. Then we get stuff like The Bat Branding and Granny's Peach Tea that totally ruins everything else.

[@emberantipecah332]

Nah. The worst Star Wars acene is when poe revealed that "somehow palpatine is still Alive"

[@keithbowen9561]

That scene had dreadful acting from a good actor as well as the cringe worthy dialogue

[@n1njahawkssecondchannel84]

I was so angry when I saw him alive in my mind I was thinking Who made this

[@ObakeOnna]

It's a so bad it's good scene. It's got tons of meme potential.

[@calibre97]

Right up there with "Holdo maneuver? Nah, million to one. Can't do it again." Really? Also alongside healing the underground worm. Along with "Where'd you get that light saber?" "Good question, for another script/time." But nah, not really. Never addressed, just dodged. And Kylo resurrecting Rey but Rey not resurrecting Kylo. Near the Mary Poppins scene of Leia. And... You get the idea. There are just sooooo many, it's ridiculous.

[@xxuu23]

@@keithbowen9561 No actor could do a good delivery of such a shit line. He literally paraphrased 'generic excuse'.

[@garym6315]

I often forget how good Mark Hamill & Luke are in these scenes. "I have no memory of my mother..." is heartbreaking. Then we also have me favourite. "You've failed your highness. I am a Jedi like my father before me."

[@OkLetsPlayTv]

Sorry but the only storyline that would be satisfying is FINN being the last Jedi because Rey joins the dark side in the second film and he has to pull her back in the third. 🤷🏿

[@kapsh94]

Good god and look at what they did to Finn in the second and third sequel movie. He was used as comedic relief and was given a pointless subplot in TLJ. And then in The Rise of Skywalker they put him on the sidelines to appease their Chinese market viewers.

[@hellothere-bx8cf]

Nooo that's gonna ruin the story

[@OkLetsPlayTv]

@@hellothere-bx8cf there was no story. Just scenes

[@OkLetsPlayTv]

@@hellothere-bx8cf Finn starting as a storm trooper to become a Jedi would have been epic.

[@hellothere-bx8cf]

@@OkLetsPlayTv but why do u always want a male to be a main character

[@SaurianStudios1207]

*The Original Trilogy:* born out of an idea, though influenced by many myths, legends and fairy tales, that felt original and was made outta passionate filmmakers who revolutionized filmmaking and storytelling, becoming classics, faults and all. *The Sequel Trilogy:* born out of an agenda to bank on the nostalgia of the original trilogy, without the heart, soul, charm or creativity, and had no real plan behind it aside from banking of the brand without understanding what made it work.

[@tanmaydeshpande]

"But, but Kathleen said that she had a plan!!! You sexist, mysognistic, piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!" (Sarcasm if you didn't get it)

[@thatoneguyjust5617]

They thought they could Milk the film by putting old like skywalker in the movie

[@pt2k645]

@@tanmaydeshpande What plan did they really need outside of The Fall and Rise of Ben Solo? The problem was Disney balked after man-babies and shitstains pissed their pants because Rian invited too many girls to the clubhouse and Luke didn’t cut up everyone he saw like the badass killing machine all the true fans know he is. If they would have continued the story instead of hurriedly trying to retcon it to get the Reddit seal of approval, it wouldn’t have fallen apart as much as it did.

[@emberantipecah332]

Prequel trilogy: born for Memes material

[@tylerR512]

The new star wars movies are good definitely not the beat star wars has to offer but they were coherent and made sense of course theres a few weird things but nothing movie breaking like in avengers endgame. Most people hate the new trilogy for pure biased reasons (they should of done this not that) which is valid but doesn't make the movie objectively better just subjectively better to you.

[@bamstarful]

"Rai SkyWalker" was the worse scene FULL stop it's so cringey: the name doesn't work, the delivery was terrible and it was SO prodictable it was ugly as a conscipt........I honestly felt ill after that line(the weird pointless Indina Jones thing with the dagger was just WTF I mean a 20 year old mystery is not how you do a treasure hunt by looking at the handle of a knife then comparing it to a crashed spacestation......idiot plan)

[@whitleybayman123]

In your opinion mate

[@bamstarful]

@@whitleybayman123 True enough.......It just felt to "Fan Fiction" like to me but I still watch EVERY bit of star war's stuff from Space Ball's to Lego Specials

[@whitleybayman123]

@@bamstarful I thought it was awesome. But we all wathced SW as kids as they are kids movies. Family at best. But like you ill watch The Holiday Special and have a smile and I own the Ewok movies on VHS and DVD lol. I love it all. Peace

[@wima13]

Ryan looks at the dead horse.... decides to give it another good kicking

[@gregbasore2108]

I don't care if that dead horse gets flogged into hamburger. I don't care if it gets ground into nanoparticles of horse meat dust. Keep beating away!

[@chrispchicken3689]

I agree. Keep beating that horse meat

[@chrispchicken3689]

Guys wait... I didn't mean it like that

[@fsddevelopment4513]

Rey the thief. Luke's lightsabre, Leia's lightsabre, Poe's droid, Luke's family name, Luke's uncles farm, Chewbacca's Millenium Falcon! Anything else I missed?

[@womanfan5328]

Yeah, a fucking life, maybe go get one instead of crying about some movies. Touch grass.

[@MrEffectfilms]

What the hell? She didn't steal those things. Look if you don't like her that's fine but don't call her a thief because you don't like her.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

The lead from Finn.

[@Lord-Emperor-Vader]

@@MrEffectfilms Chewbacca deserved the Falcon he knew Han for decades and was Han's oldest friend (who did not turn on him) he deserved the ship more then Rey who knew Han for a day at best and a couple of hours at the worst. She also did steal the Falcon in Force Awakens since Unkar Plutt owned it and she returned it to Han, I am sure Han's will either left it to Leia or Chewbacca. She was given permission for the lightsabers. The taking of the Skywalker name is complicated. By taking it only based off a nod is a stretch and she is doing what Kylo said "Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to. That's the only way to become what you were meant to be" she is killing the Palpatine name and letting the past die to become who she thinks she is meant to be. She could have done what Luke did redeem the Skywalker name from everything his father did to it. Remember everyone now knows Vader was a Skywalker so Rey is just associating herself with two if the most evil men in the Galaxy and a good amount of people loved Palpatine since his rule was better then the either of the Republic's. The Galaxy fleet show people did not like Palpatine but that was enough ships to fill the atmosphere of a planet and is still a small percent of the Galactic population which would be in the quadrillions (Coruscant alone had a population of about three trillion).

[@pilgrim5736]

I read someone's comment that "The Thrawn Trilogy" (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command) would have been a better trilogy to film. It uses the common core of SW characters but added to them in a natural outgrowth of the original series combining the familiar with the new into a skillful story. After I finished the trilogy I realized why the person's comment was so very true. Ryan's analysis reaffirms it.

[@LTBudd]

The Thrawn Trilogy would have worked as a sequel had they made that sequel trilogy shortly after RotJ. It, however, was fan service, just like the Rey Trilogy was. The Rey Trilogy is meant to end a chapter, not only for the Star Wars story, but in the transfer of the Star Wars franchise from Lucas to Disney. The biggest problem behind the Rey Trilogy is that there wasn't a single vision behind it. The Thrawn Trilogy was written by one person, based on some of the lore that existed in the Star Wars expanded universe that had yet to be on screen. It was, however, one vision from start to finish. The first trilogy was one vision. The prequel trilogy was one vision. The Rey trilogy was film by committee. It doesn't help that J.J. Abrams was involved.

[@thenomad93]

@@LTBudd so why didn’t Disney go with Lucas’s outline if it was the transfer from Lucas to Disney?

[@CouncilCape897]

@@thenomad93 Because the contract he signed clarified they were not obligated to follow his ideas, only take them into consideration.

[@dimitreze]

the old star wars books are shitty too bunch of subpar storytelling

[@LTBudd]

@@thenomad93 it's funny, because the same people who were shitting on Lucas over the prequels are the same ones who believe his treatment for the sequel trilogies would have been golden. Granted, they probably would have been better, but I don't think it would have been a mind-blowing set of movies. Should they have gone with Lucas' treatment? In hindsight, probably. I think they still would have upset and frustrated fans like the prequels did.

[@jasonmoore211]

SC: Is it worse than this scene? "Oh, hi Mark." SC: ... yes! Me: 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😅😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Skabanis]

I can’t watch return of the Jedi’s last 30 minutes without being a mess...that’s why when madolorians Luke reveal had me crying for two days...I am 50 I was seven when my dad took me to see Star Wars...

[@chriskidwell8595]

Quite simply, the original trilogy works because Lucas was extremely passionate about making it and at the same time was extremely passionate about not making a “corporate movie.” Lucas wanted to buck the system while making the original trilogy of movie studios becoming huge conglomerates that emphasized making money through polling fans rather than telling good stories. By the time of the prequels, Lucas had become one of the conglomerates, though one of a somewhat smaller scale, that he fought against earlier. It goes without saying that Disney is one of those major conglomerates, if not the top one. That is why Rise of Skywalker retconned The Last Jedi because Disney thought by pleasing the vocal critics of The Last Jedi that they could maximize their return. It’s a shame because I would’ve liked to have seen the conclusion of what The Last Jedi set up.

[@laurenzollamas2324]

The Force Awakens already gave me a bad feeling but - ultimately I had hope Finn would at least bring something new and interesting. The "Rey is a nobody!!" never felt meaningful because - aside from Luke and Leia, everyone started out as a nobody. We have no idea what's special about a Kenobi or a Lando or even a Jar Jar. Even Padme is... not tat special really. But newp. Newp. The Last Jedi turned him into a comedy and "deconstructed" the entire series... while also still being a part of the series. The entire trilogy is just a mess of "make it fast push it out we have ROI to consider."

[@boodtwo4342]

Excellent point. An akin was a desert nobody 15 years before Rey was.

[@joaofrancisco7289]

Imagine: Luke: you said you were my father Vader: i didn’t lie, I’m your father identical twin so technicaly. I’m your father.

[@PhazonX]

Rey starts crying in TLJ when she admits that her parents are nobody, which makes absolutely no sense. Rey never cared about having parents who were somebody, she just cared about having parents period. This is not the hardest thing for Rey to hear. It's the hardest thing for the audience to hear, which is dumb, and entirely deviates from Rey's arc.

[@ForzaMara]

This is exactly the point I've been making since TLJ came out. At what point in TFA did she ever say she wanted her family to be a big deal? Plus, finding out she was a Skywalker would probably be worse, because she's now got a legacy to live up to and that would scare anyone. This was literally RJ doing a fourth wall break. The same with the line Kylo made about her not belonging in the story. It sounds clever at first, unfortunately it's yet another fourth wall break, which unintentionally and subconsciously tells the viewer that she quite literally doesn't belong in the Skywalker saga.

[@jaieregilmore971]

I blame TFA having the vision seen with Anakin lightsaber it shows that she was going to be someone important but TLJ didn’t go back to mention it.

[@andycalmes4201]

@@aricaj.3006 but by the end of TLJ Luke does come around to being the hero and Rey knows it and feels the peace and purpose in his sacrifice.

[@TankHunter678]

@@aricaj.3006 I think she should of been crying because she had been told her parents were dead. She has spent so much of her life waiting for people who could never return to begin with after all. The problem is that they timed her crying at the wrong point. They had her start crying when she admitted that they were nobodies, rather then at a later point when she understands that they were dead or as you said that it was clear they did not care for her at all despite her hope that they still did.

[@FrazerEddy]

Whereas in The Force Awakens, she starts crying after Maz Kanada tells her: "Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku - they're never coming back." To me, that gives me the sense that her parents might be dead or something. Because I've always imagined that her parents were secretly war heroes who left her behind on Jakku to keep her safe. Plus, I always like to think that Kylo Ren was lying to Rey about her parents, just to make her feel weak. I wouldn't have thought he was necessarily telling the truth. What I would've like to see in Rise of Skywalker, was Rey actually investigating what happened to her parents, rather than what we actually got in the final film.

[@paulsnell534]

I liked The Force Awakens. The Last Jedi was a good film but it took everything off the rails. The Rise of Skywalker was just like lets just end this thing the best we can as quick as we can. JJ should have done all 3 films that was Disney's mistake. They thought they could use 3 different directors. What we got was 3 films that really didn't link together at all.

[@jeffgalus8454]

And the there's the Mandalorian which a thousand times better than the sequel trilogy which burns JJ and Kathleen Kennedy

[@andresgoni1512]

I always saw something bad about this trylogy, I had a "bad feeling about this trylogy" first they don't know that much about the star wars story, secondly there is no consistency in the films, probably because all three directors had different idea on the movies, and finally, it contradicts all of the other trylogys because in the good saga anakin or Darth Vader vas the chosen one and in this one he is an evil voice inside someone's head.

[@Bowmaster1994]

Let's not forget the immortal line 'Somehow, Palpatine returned.'

[@FrazerEddy]

Almost reminds me of how bad much of the dialogue was in the Prequels.

[@daleym4955]

remember when leia said she remember her mother, yet padme died in child birth?

[@gingerkays7362]

Fun fact about James Earl Jones: Darth Vader isn’t the only (semi) Disney character that he voiced who gave his life to protect his son. Hint: The other one takes place in Africa

[@Jedi_Cowboy]

The problem with TFA was it wasn’t creative at all. Finn was a good character. They should have let us and him know he had the Force. He could have been trained as a Jedi by Luke and the focal point with Rey. I recently rewatched the first scene of TFA where we meet Finn and Kulo Ren. As Ren walks back to his ship he stops and they stare at each other. Why?! That was The Force Awakening! It makes complete sense. JJ dropped the ball. In TLJ, Kennedy went to USC film school and asked the professors who they really liked, they said Oh that R.Johnson kid was a good student, check out his work. What happened then? We got an art and critical thinking piece of garbage that didn’t belong in SW. The decision to make Luke a coward and run and refuse helping his sister was absolutely out of character and wrong. Just read the opening crawl of TFA, Leia is desperately searching for her brother Luke to come help her. He would never abandon her in her desperation. Then RJ has the audacity to put in the original ”Help me Obi-Wan” recording that basically kicks of the entire SW universe (1st film) because Luke intrinsically wants to help but still have Luke refuse. That inflection by RJ was terrible. I’ve been around over 40 years and know many people that long -peoples’ characters don’t change that dramatically. Ask yourself, how many people do you know well that would act so out of character (outside of drugs or a terrible illness)... RJ didn’t understand SW and was not a fan. Just look at the love the cast and crew have poured in to The Mandalorian and the stuff they say to the fans and even Mark Hamill about how important he was to their childhood. RJ was just like FU Hamill to his face. Disgrace. Was TLJ a departure from the other movies, yes, but in only because it was an art piece by a guy who didn’t give a flying fuck about the source material. Case in point the scene where we see the plants grow. Why in the fuck?! I see shit like that all the time from film school students when I walk student art galleries. This was supposed to be SW! Now we come to TROS. It was an absolute mess. It was so disjointed I thought I was watching a Chinese contortionist performing for the Queen of England. It did try to fix some of the crap from TLJ, but again JJ isn’t a very good story teller. The decisions he and Terrio made, took, and poorly executed were so out of place it made me fell like I dropped acid after I walked out. Hell the movie was so visually jolting and all over the place it was like they were trying to make you forget how bad the story was by having you have to shake your head and refocus your eyes ever 50 seconds. What a disappointment the sequel trilogy turned out to be.

[@dimitreze]

after Last Jedi I was done with this trilogy is not canon for me there is no Rey or Poe great video by the way

[@TheBigBigSean]

The EU that Disney scrapped will always be canon to me. Disney Star Wars is just corporate sponsored fan fiction.

[@Jordanmode]

It’s canon whether you like it or not. Just hope that Filoni and Favreau can make improve on the lore the sequels created, the way they did with Clone Wars and Rebels.

[@Jordanmode]

Make improvements *

[@mdisco10]

@@Jordanmode There’s a chance we’re getting multiple timelines to save us from the sequels though. This is part of the reason why people are upset with sequel defenders; stop forcing them on people that don’t like them. If you enjoy them, that’s fine, but they’re not canon to a lot of people because of how they’ve desecrated the original story. No matter what you say, they weren’t made by the original creator (George Lucas), so there’s a legitimate argument against their canon-icity.

[@matthiesoliveira2458]

Last Jedi sucked

[@philipfahy9658]

"Impossible"? Kevin Feige was able to tie up 22 films beautifully IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!

[@annedrieck7316]

Ryan:🤓

[@missymotors]

Where is the Jenny Nicholson Twitter link?

[@shadowsentry2112]

Return of the Jedi: ends with the promise that Luke will go on to rebuild the Jedi. Luke 30 years later: ends up failing and becoming a depressed loser. Rise of Skywalker: ends with the promise that Rey will go on to rebuild the Jedi. Rey 30 years later: will likely end up failing and becomes a depressed loser.

[@nibor4323]

I have the feeling that she will be perfect and succeed and stuff, not because she has training, or wiseness, or a sheer will, but, y'know MaRey Sue

[@pt2k645]

How? How was a farm boy with minimal training going to rebuild the decimated Jedi Order? An Order that fell because of their own blind hubris, btw. What was he going to do other than the same thing every other Jedi in the saga did? Obi-wan lost Anakin. What did he do? Ran away and hid. Yoda lost to Sidious. Did what did he? Away ran and hid. Luke loses Ben. Why wouldn’t he do what his teachers did? How can so many self-proclaimed diehard SW fans have been so completely blindsided by this development the THIRD time it happened? Weren’t you paying attention the last 40 years???

[@dpangia123]

@@pt2k645 It happened again because of shitty writing. The whole point of luke post rotj is that he deviates from the original jedi way, and changes things to be better with a new jedi order. That's why he uses darkside powers to do good where old jedi would think that's terrible to do. Why wouldn't he do what his teachers did? Its called learning from mistakes.

[@shadowsentry2112]

@@pt2k645 I could ask the same question but with Rey at the end of TROS. How’s a twenty year old girl who belongs to a tyrannical bloodline and has dark side tendencies supposed to bring back the Jedi? What lessons did she take away from “learning” from Luke and how is that gonna impact the way she does things? The point of each trilogy is to build on each other and improve the state of the universe. The prequels set it up to be tragic, for the originals to make a comeback, and the sequels (in theory) to show how far their effort has come. At the end of TROS, Rey is literally in Luke’s position at the end of ROTJ, and there’s no indication that she’s gonna do something different than what he did.

[@pt2k645]

@@dpangia123 “And this is the lesson. That Force does not belong to the Jedi. To say that if the Jedi die, the light dies, it's vanity.” That’s shitty writing? I’m sorry, that’s brilliant... and quite obvious to anyone that has ever *thought* about Star Wars, something seemingly quite a number of fans apparently can’t or won’t do. 🤷‍♂️

[@TheRealLulZ91]

1. Awesome video, and really well explained. 2. I’ll be honest, that was the cleanest transition to an ad I have ever seen. Well done! Ad break starts at 8:30

[@jpat1513]

I still don’t get the defense of Last Jedi. New creative directions is massively offset by poor pacing and dumb character decisions. Painting your critics with the same brush isn’t generally a good way to win your side of the argument. I’m in a agreement about Rise of Skywalker though

[@cyb3r_fox114]

You were literally the first guy I found that correctly names Anakin‘s light saber instead of “The Skywalker saber” or “Ray’s saber”

[@TWHueyGuitar]

The task was not impossible, they just needed a coherent through plot/story for three films before starting actual work on "The Force Awakens."

[@spriggansiedeutsch6817]

Great analysis! I have yet to rewatch Rise of Skywalker because I hated the ending so much. The fact that Rey chooses to become a Skywalker, despite the fact that theme of the whole film seemed to be that your lineage doesn’t matter, irritates me to this day. She should have proudly accepted that she’s a Palpatine and made the name mean something completely different to future generations.

[@gregbasore2108]

Solid breakdown. Also, Palpatine could have worked as the new villain if Abrams and Terrio had been more patient and not blown their wad right out the gate. The opening crawl should have hinted at an important message that would change everything, and then the whole crew hears the audio message when Po and Finn get back to base. From there, the rest of the first act and most of the second, should have centered on the question "Is it true?" We should have been witnesses to the ultimate game of "ratz in a maze" with Rey and Kylo both desperately searching for the, hoping to get it first. Both of them wondering "Is this a trick, or has he really returned? If so, how?" Just like one movie ago, their mutual problem is solved together. It's only by sharing their info and connecting their powers that they can unlock the final obstacle to the way finder, and it'll only work if both of them in close proximity. Palpy doesn't show up on screen till the end of Act Two, as the stage is set for the final conflict. When they confront him, we get some kind of actual answer to how he's gotten over being dead. Any explanation, I don't care how smart or stupid, but something ON SCREEN has to be said. "Clones. You guys know I invested heavily in cloning right? There was, like, a whole war about it and everything. Cloning is, just, totally dark side." whatever, but give us an actual damn answer in the moment. At this point, with or without the "she's my granddaughter" back pedal, the story's still stronger, just for having Palpatine's emergence get some build up. If the grand baby reveal is ditched, go with something like; "The prophecy of the Force Being Balanced is not a single, solitary event. It is a cycle, that begins and ends and begins again. Each cycle mirrors the others, but new glints of light and shades of darkness emerge each time. This time, the chosen one, is the chosen two. One champion of light and one of dark. Each can tip the balance one way or the other. Each can embrace either side of the force. Each can be the song that calls the tune of destiny! Now... you must choose. Who will Rise... Who Will Fall? Which shall rule... Light or Dark? Love or Hate? Generosity or Greed? Compassion or Malice? Choose, but choose quickly, for the choice may not be yours for much longer!" Cut to Rey and Kylo locking eyes and... we have stakes and emotional investment and something the audience would be on the edge of their seat itching to see play out.

[@byrnes8024]

I watched the rise of skywalker today because I was bored funny how that worked out

[@diondorsey3376]

I watched it on my Amazon Firestick a lil after it came out just to watch a dumpster fire... Thank You Last Jedi🤬🤬🤬 lol

[@motivationmaxi]

I’m sorry, take lots of aspirin.

[@cliffsheets73]

Perhaps someday we can watch the story again and it won't be so bad. I recently rewatched all of LOST. Which I didn't like how it ended. Season 6 was the only DVD set I didn't purchase because I was so disappointed in how it ended. Well, watching it again (one episode after the other), knowing how it ends, I was able to appreciate and see how it all fit together. I didn't hate the last trilogy. I even defended it against people who did. But I've only watched Rise of Skywalker 3 times, maybe? 10 years down the road, maybe I'll better appreciate the whole picture.

[@aslasl-rp3ol]

Awesome analysis. I'd be interested to hear more about how to think episode 9 could have continued after the last jedi, without just retconning everything. Actually recover from what sucked about TLJ, but keep the good aspects of the character development.

[@nathandts3401]

The only thing that sucked about TLJ was the length and it's only that long because it had to do two films worth of character development after TFA only seemed to concern itself with Han. I'd happily see RoS completely rewritten, but for the sake of simplicity a minor tweak would have turned the movie from bad to okay. Replace Palpatine with some 2000 year old Sith, axe the Rey's parents thing, Snoke was also a couple thousand years old; they're Sith that escaped the Rule of Two. Gets rid of the two worst plot points in 9, doesn't change the rest of the plot and is a gateway to the Old Republic whenever Disney wants to explore that.

[@daprovocateur]

Just realized that when Luke tells Leia that Vader’s his father, they never acknowledge that Vader’s HER father too! That’s never developed anywhere in Star Wars.

[@jorgealzamora9694]

You’re right. If you’re interested in that, in the book Bloodline they address this issue from Leia’s point of view.

[@danielschoch4881]

There was no need to acknowledge this. Luke told her that Vader is his father and then told Leia that she is his sister. So everyone with a brain can come to the conclusion. As for Leia this was a shock and in the moment she probably did not want to talk about this. She begged Han to comfort her afterwards. Thats exactly what any real person would do too.

[@greenmonsterprod]

@@jorgealzamora9694 A better choice would be "Tatooine Ghost", a novel from the old EU where Leia finds Shmi's diary and has to understand that evil Darth Vader was once a sweet, good-natured little kid.

[@RoverIAC]

Luke and Leia being born as twins pretty muck develops that Vader is her father too.

[@jpat1513]

“The force awakens felt like a labor of love.” Swing and a miss there, Ryan.

[@MrBoz1968]

Filoni and Favreau are proving to everyone that the last 3 films were way over thought and should just go away and be canned. The Force Awakens could have been good if the 2 following it had not been so bad, there was no over arching plan for the 3 movies, The Last Jedi strayed from the core by destroying Luke and the last one to try and fix it rather than tell a story. We did not need subversion for The Last Jedi, it would have been perfectly fine to have Rey be the twin of Kilo (this makes waaaaaaay more sense for the Kilo/Rey connection and discovery of each other) Is it predictable, sure, but sometimes fans are ahead of the story, nothing can be done about that. The story should have been about how Leia and Luke were afraid of what Han and Leia's offspring could do and thus "try" to protect w/ a plan. Tell Han Kilo is the only child, hide Rey off somewhere else to be raised and watched over by trusted people, just in case....rhymes. Write from that point of view and now you can tell stories. You can still have the dissolve of the Han/Leia's relationship as they differed on sending their only son off to be a Jedi, especially as they, by that time, would have known the story of Vader and Luke and the dangers of the Dark Side of the force. Luke and Leia wanting Kilo to be trained and Han against it. Real conflict that makes sense as to why Han/Leia would be apart and have to reconcile, Han discovering his daughter only after having kinship and adventures w/ her too late as he give his life to now protect her against his fallen son/ her brother. If I can see this, those films should have been better when done by "professionals". Thus the disappointment in the overall fan base w/ the last 3 movies. (PS we so desperately wanted them to be good, is that wrong?)

[@Jedi_Cowboy]

The problem with TFA was it wasn’t creative at all. Finn was a good character. They should have let us and him know he had the Force. He could have been trained as a Jedi by Luke and the focal point with Rey. I recently rewatched the first scene of TFA where we meet Finn and Kulo Ren. As Ren walks back to his ship he stops and they stare at each other. Why?! That was The Force Awakening! It makes complete sense. JJ dropped the ball. In TLJ, Kennedy went to USC film school and asked the professors who they really liked, they said Oh that R.Johnson kid was a good student, check out his work. What happened then? We got an art and critical thinking piece of garbage that didn’t belong in SW. The decision to make Luke a coward and run and refuse helping his sister was absolutely out of character and wrong. Just read the opening crawl of TFA, Leia is desperately searching for her brother Luke to come help her. He would never abandon her. Then RJ has the audacity to put the original”Help me Obi-Wan” recording the basically kicks of the entire SW universe (1st film) and still have Luke refuse. That inflection by RJ was terrible. I’ve been around over 40 years and know many people that long -peoples’ characters don’t change that dramatically. Ask yourself, how many people do you know well that would act so out of character (outside of drugs or a terrible illness)... RJ didn’t understand SW and was not a fan. Just look at the love the cast and crew have poured in to The Mandalorian and the stuff they say to the fans and even Mark Hamill about how important he was to their childhood. RJ was just like FU Hamill to his face. Disgrace. Was TLJ a departure from the other movies, yes, but in only because it was an art price by a guy who didn’t give a flying fuck about the source material. Case in point the scene where we see that plant grow. Why in the fuck?! I see shit like that all the time from film school students when I walk student art galleries. This was supposed to be SW! Now we come to TROS. It was an absolute mess. It was so disjointed I thought I was watching a Chinese contortionist performing for the Queen of England. It did try to fix some of the crap from TLJ, but again JJ isn’t a very good story teller. The decisions he and Terrio made, took, and poorly executed were so out of place it made me fell like I dropped acid after I walked out. Hell the movie was so visually jolting and all over the place it was like they were trying to make you forget how bad the story was by having you have to shake your head and refocus your eyes ever 50 seconds. What a disappointment the sequel trilogy turned out to be.

[@MrBoz1968]

@@Jedi_Cowboy Like I said, they should just go away, become "not cannon" like they did to all the pre-Disney content (some of which was pretty damn good and should be cherry picked and stolen from, like the MCU does w/ the comics.

[@gregbasore2108]

Honestly, I think the sequel trilogy validated Lucas's announcement in 2005 that he wouldn't do a 3rd trilogy, because he realized along the way, that the saga was really Anakin/Vader's story this whole time and that story concluded in ep VI. He originally talked about 9 episodes, because it might for a nice set. Three stories, each in three parts. A trilogy composed of trilogies as it were. But once he got finished with second trilogy, he realized that was all the story that needed to be told. Sure, he was gearing up to do a 3rd set before the Disney buy out offer, but all the ideas mentioned about "The Whills" and "Midichlorians" sounded like hitting high gear on all the lore explaining, mystery deflating stuff that hamstrung the prequels. There was probably a bit've "I wanna prove the haters wrong" in there too. He maybe wanted to show off his brain's dick size and prove that episodes IV, V and VI weren't his last great movies. The real failing the sequels isn't even in the directions the plot went in or didn't go in. It really comes down to a matter of not having something to say about the times we live in. The OG trilogy was informed by Lucas's views of the Vietnam War and how it impacted his country and the lives of his friends and family. The Prequels were about the rising surveillance state and crumbling of our government as a functional entity and the fears people had about guys like G.W. Bush. What the hell is the sequel trilogy about? It's about Star Wars movies and how fans view them. It starts off with "Boy, Star Wars sure was awesome. I want another one." follows with "Ya know, the Star Wars formula sure is getting stale, let's try something new!" and ends with "Straying from formula is bad and we shouldn't do it again. Let's go back to the formula and take a double dose this time!" There's no earthy texture under the mythic fluff, like Lucas had. There's just fluff on fluff on fluff, all the way down.

[@gregbasore2108]

@@Jedi_Cowboy Even though I like Last Jedi, I agree that Rian Johnson was the wrong guy to follow up Abrams. Honestly, Disney should have just had him do all three movies. They would have been mediocre, but at least they'd have been consistently mediocre and he could have spent ep VIII setting up all the stuff that happened in Ep IX, so it didn't feel like an ass pull.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@Jedi_Cowboy hmm 🤔 would it be different if he played Obi Wan message in the end of Episode 3 where Obi wan message to all remaining Jedi to not return to Jedi temple and wait for a new hope to return.

[@Madeintheshade65]

The Dead Speaks….What!!!!

[@Jorizzle22]

The problem wasn't with a female lead. It was the fact that two different people wrote two different trilogies. That never should've happened.

[@beschutzer42]

I straight up forgot the beginning of the rise of Skywalker 😂

[@Jorizzle22]

The Force Awakens is what got me into Star Wars. Silly, yes but having TFA mirror A New Hope was a good way to introduce new fans. I used to make fun of Star Wars nerds now I'm the biggest one I know. I was dragged to the movies to see TFA, but I left with that magical force feeling that has changed my life. I will always be grateful to TFA. And A New Hope is still one of my least faves lol

[@FatPigInTheHouse]

I agree I was completely taken out of the moment when the Palpatine reveal was made.

[@StarWarsUnconditionalLover]

Is it worst than « That’s how we’re gonna win. Not fighting what we hate, saving what we love. » ? Yes.

[@igorplebankiewicz1114]

Nah that was honestly one of the worst scenes in all movies ever

[@StarWarsUnconditionalLover]

Igor Plebankiewicz I actually... liked this scene in TLJ.

[@igorplebankiewicz1114]

@@StarWarsUnconditionalLover Really?

[@DIAC1987]

I pin none of the blame on the staff that worked on the film, and all of the blame on Disney, who clearly didn't properly plan out the trilogy and just blindly assumed that the writers and directors they hired would somehow make back-to-back-to-back cohesive chapters.

[@stormtreeproductions6477]

I feel obliged to mention, the scuttlebutt is that Abrams/Terrio weren’t going to bring Palpatine back. Originally Abrams conferred with Lucas and the plan was for The Son of Mortis to be the ultimate evil. That’s why the Sith Dagger is so prominent and Matt Smith was cast. However, Bob Eiger himself nixed it at some point during principal photography saying - no one is going to know who this guy is!!! So Abrams had to scramble. They could only think of Palpatine and everything with the Emperor was shot as a reshoot only a couple months before the film came out!!!!!

[@Booger414]

I kind of agree with most of what you said. However I am more and more of the opinion that Abrams didn't dream of working on Star Wars as a kid, he dreamed of changing Star Wars as a kid.

[@MrEffectfilms]

This is why I've always said you cannot let your fans dictate what your story is and where it goes, when you do you get Rise of Skywalker.

[@copterinx0468]

My thoughts on the sequel trilogy: ep7: Nice! I mean, it copies ep4 quite a bit, but at least it is a safe proof-of-concept that they can make new Star Wars movies well. ep8: Yeah, okay. Pretty good, but a few...bad parts...just let Leia die, let Finn die, etc. ep9: No. Just no. Horrific plot line, terrible idea, ruins the movie, the trilogy, and really the whole saga.

[@eleanorbwells]

I actually thought the Palpatine could have worked really well if it was actually built up to from the beginning rather than an eleventh hour decision. If the latter had been true, like you said, it would have explained how ridiculously powerful she was. I'm a sucker for stories about people overcoming their circumstances to choose a different path in life. I feel like the way to have done it would be to have it not be a reveal -- have Rey start off as a Sith, and then move to the light. It could have been a fun riff on the prequels but in reverse. Though I guess that would have been too ballsy for Disney. When you watch A New Hope, there all these nuggets in that film hinting to Luke's parentage, like the exchange between Owen and Beru -- "He's just not a farmer, Owen. He has too much of his father in him." "That's what I'm afraid of." -- And how Alec Guiness portrayed Obi-Wan like the prequels already existed, especially when he was telling Luke about his father. George Lucas was a brilliant storyteller and did such a wonderful job of creating this world. The prequels are flawed films, but had at least had a vision, interesting and compelling characters, and add to the originals. I don't care what anyone says, I love Anakin and Hayden Christensen's portrayal of him, but I digress. The fact is, these movies are bad because they don't have a creative reason for being. They were made for money and to cash in on nostalgia. The first six films came from George Lucas' heart and soul, and spoke to universal truths about humanity and family and how one person can make a difference even though you might come from humble origins. THAT'S why people love these movies. These new ones could have been good. They're just so hollow, and they don't add anything of value to the canon. And don't even get me started on Palpatine's resurrection and how in doing that the filmmakers of this movie shat on Anakin Skywalker's grave. (Yes, I know Anakin is not a real person. My point stands.)

[@nicdennis]

Who else thinks Chris Terrio has had a conversation with the memory of his dead father?

[@richierich8555]

I never got past the fact that the first order overran the Republic in a week. Halfway through the movie I was sitting in the theatre still thinking about that. But then Holdo broke Star Wars physics by using light-speed ramming and I got up and walked out.

[@matthiesoliveira2458]

They’ll say that every time, just because I thought the Last Jedi was crap I must be a SWJ hatter. The film was just badly made.

[@warwolf1539]

Just re-make the bloody things already, I'm tired of these movies making us forget how much Jar-Jar sucked out loud

[@Daniel.RF.Davidson]

What sequel trilogy is this you`re talking about?!

[@ObakeOnna]

The false sequel trilogy. For the real sequel trilogy, see seasons 1-3 of the Mandalorian.

[@Daniel.RF.Davidson]

@@ObakeOnna So true... Can`t wait for the Ahsoka series, in which she`ll obviously revisit the World between Worlds temple, and somehow, yet cleverly, erase this so called sequel trilogy. Cool fanfics, though.

[@jamesgarrett8833]

So hey Ryan another video I saw on how bad “Rise of Skywalker” is the video said a big reason J.J Abrams bought back Palpatine was because fans hated the movie before it and bought back the iconic character as a way to please the fans

[@MimesAgainstHunmanity]

If you pay attention to fan response you get this (Force Awakens) This is crap. This is the same thing as A New Hope. Where is Palpatine? Why are you just copying another movie. (Last Jedi) This is crap. This isn't Star Wars. Why did you change everything? What do you mean Rey is nobody? (Rise Of Skywalker) This is crap. Rey is a Palpatine? Why did you bring Palpatine back? Disney should have saved their money. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. The reason Rouge One and the Mandalorian have been successful is they stepped away from the established characters and the whole Skywalker storyline to create something generally new in a familiar setting. With the sequel Trilogy they could not do that. People would have roasted them if the sequel trilogy had no one from the original trilogy in it. And they ended up getting roasted anyway by trying to please everyone.

[@thechosenones4375]

@13:13 Maz already told her that in TFA. Which is actually worse, because why would Maz lie. I always assumed Kylo was lying because, well, he's a bad guy.

[@niallocarroll4450]

My fiancé is not a Star Wars fan but sat down with me when IX came to Disney + and we watched together. The two scenes that made him go "that is BAAD" writing were when Palpatine explains how he survived (the dark side), and when Kylo reveals Rey is a Palpatine as well. He actually got up and left the room hahaha!

[@noonespecial9994]

Just a thought that usually is not brought up. Wouldn't any memories Leia has of her 'mother' actually be of Bail Organa's wife?

[@tryggestad]

I remember being really confused when I saw Episode III because of this scene in Episode VI. "Wait, you can't kill of Padme now! She's got to get to know Leia a little bit so this scene makes sense." Since then I've heard some folks say that Leia had some kind of special bond with Padme through the Force. But I'm more inclined to believe that Leia is just confused here. Due to the secrecy in keeping her from Vader, I wonder if Bail and his wife even told Leia she was adopted. This would mean that the revelation from her brother would be even more shocking. "Wait, my mom and dad aren't my mom and dad? And you're my brother? And our dad is Darth Vader?"

[@michaelkopischke8072]

Your analysis explains perfectly why this film was so devastatingly disappointing to me. I'd been underwhelmed by Star Wars films in the past (1, 2, Rogue One, Solo) but this is the first one that I actively dislike. It retroactively devalues all of the previous films and ends this trilogy on such a thud. For the first time, I didn't accept what happened. As far as I'm concerned, enough happened in The Last Jedi for that film to serve as the conclusion to the saga.

[@amcaesar]

It’s important to note how many of the decisions in this movie were mandated by Disney executives. JJ was paid a lot of money to sign his name to a movie which he barely wrote, or even formulated. In a sense, he was the fall guy for this whole corporate effort.

[@pt2k645]

That could perhaps be true if Abrams had ever written anything that was well structured. He puts no effort in developing answers to the mystery boxes he creates, which is fine to be one-and-done on Ep 7, and Rian Johnson brilliantly handled developing answers to Abrams’ half-questions in Ep. 8, but when called on for answers in Ep. 9, JJ stammers at front of the class giving a book report for which he hasn’t done the reading.

[@mattp1337]

And I hope he never works again.

[@TJ-nz8oc]

@@pt2k645 Didn't he have drafts for 8 and 9. Rian threw them away.

[@pt2k645]

@@TJ-nz8oc You mean like how JJ threw away George Lucas’ drafts for 7-9?

[@TJ-nz8oc]

@@pt2k645 Well you're right and I agree. IMO there really shouldn't have been a 7,8 and 9 as I think ending rotj is perfect and that it would not flow well with the rest of the saga but if we were going to get a 7,8 and 9. I think it should of been lucas drafts.

[@yeudler41]

George Lucas even said: "He's like the Devil..." referring to Sidious.

[@shadowr2d2]

Thank you for posting this video.. A whole lot to think on.. This is the way - I have spoken.. Mandalorian Awesomeness hands down..

[@MrOcean-wl1vy]

Hello Mr. ScreenCrush can you make a video on comparison between WW1984 & Megamind because i think they are very similar.

[@austinh7539]

I have this head cannon that Ryan and Doug work in one of the last DVD stores in the country and it’s like a clerks in a movie store Where each episode becomes a talk about a movie. And honestly I’d be on board for skits about this.

[@nickelburg988]

Chris terrio wrote a masterpiece with Batman v Superman Ultimate edition

[@mellogic]

yo i like how you put that deadpool scene "its just lazy writing" in here when the whole time im watching your vid, that popped up to my mind lol

[@DD-eight]

Haha Large Marge!! You made my year!!! That’s some great editing right there!!

[@XaloGunner]

Rey as a Kenobi or, as you say, as no one always seemed to me to be way better options than the Palpatine thing.

[@Willieandrewguevarra]

I got some mr.plinkett vibe right now. Again it’s like poetry, it rhymes.

[@MistbornPrincess]

May I also point out that I bet that everyone in the production freaked out in Dec 2016. Because episode 9 was supposed to be LEIA’S film. And then Carrie Fisher DIED. She would surely have given her input on the story and probably would have told them how crummy their ideas were and with spicer words than crummy.

[@claytonlehmann3483]

Ah yes, hating on RoS, my favorite thing to do

[@tryggestad]

So much good stuff here! I share these sentiments. "Last Jedi" wasn't my favorite of the SW films, but I didn't hate it. And I REALLY appreciated that Rian Johnson was at least TRYING to do something different after the completely derivative "Force Awakens." (Starkiller Base is still a trigger for me. WHY did you need a THIRD Death Star?") My criticism of RJ is that he just set up (or tore down) WAY too many plot points to then just walked off and say, "OK, next!" If Disney was going to commit this level of subversion of fan expectations they really should have had a plan in place for the final chapter.

[@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes]

The entire Sequel-Trilogy SUCKED in all ways, they should have just used the Zahn Books, WORD. FOR. WORD.

[@MimesAgainstHunmanity]

I will never understand why people keep saying this. The Zahn trilogies were good but had huge flaws in relation to what has been established with the prequels. They were good but not great.

[@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes]

@@MimesAgainstHunmanity Maybe because the Zahn Trilogy books came out in 1991,1992 and 1993 - the Phantom Menace came out in 1999.......

[@WilliamWeeksKC]

like when I bought this Offspring album. Its in my decision collection.

[@creaturefeaturecosplay]

Great analysis! I really didn't like most of the The Last Jedi, for countless reasons, but I did like Kylo killing Snoke but then remaining on the dark side, as well as the reveal about Rey being a nobody. Those were my favorite things in the movie. As much as I didn't like TLJ, i think the waffling and retconning in Rise of Skywalker made things so much worse, as a movie and as a Star Wars movie specifically. Bringing back Palpatine and making up all kinds of nonsense about how the Force works was just dumb, and claiming there's some kind of feud between the Skywalkers and the "Palpatines" (cuz there's suddenly a whole family?) shows they fundamentally misunderstood the story.

[@riverrat5822]

10:12 there's no palpatine "house." It was one dude. maybe you could say it was one guy vs a family but definitely not two houses against each other.

[@badbeardbill9956]

I still think Finn had a more interesting premise and better potential to be the main character. A storm trooper becoming a Jedi makes for a much more interesting story and character in my opinion.

[@josiahfadder]

I watched Rise of Skywalker once in cinema. Usually I would go twice on opening day to any Star Wars film, but somehow something stopped me from getting a second set of tickets. I didn't make the parallel connections to Return of the Jedi because I was disappointed.

[@Maddow01]

And WHY would Palpatine have a dinasty ?? The dude claims all the power for HIMSELF, so why should he risk everything by having a child ? He is a Sithlord, by definition he seeks power for himself, betrayed every apprentice he had even his master Plaeguis... this writer just never understood star wars WTF

[@FailroadExpress]

Really great video. It makes so much sense, especially at the end where you summarize the reasons episode 9 failed. But I will say this; despite the fact the JJ made a very bad ending to a trilogy, I really don't blame him. He basically took the helm of a burning ship and said, "I'll do what I can." He took on the project after other great directors wouldn't, knowing that he had to serve a broken fan base. He was given a short amount of time not only to make this movie but write the script from scratch. He was set up for failure from the moment the powers that be decided to "wing it" on the most important trilogy in history and not have a game plan for the entire arch of the story before filming the first shots! Could ROS have been better? 100% yes. Could JJ have done better? Probably not. JJ has never been much of a closer. He's always been able to open a story with some great questions but not bring stories to a satisfying ending. Lost is just one example.

[@ieatzebraarah]

I really wish they just stuck on the path Johnson was setting up or if JJ did the whole thing so there would be some semblance of continuity

[@ryanbell6672]

Johnson's entire set up was "nothing matters, no one matters, bleh bleh, everything is just crazy and pointless"

[@ieatzebraarah]

@@ryanbell6672 agreed Im not a fan of TLJ but if they followed some sort of continuity that would have been better than the cluster fuck they gave us

[@julianwallinger8700]

Spot on and for what ever reason sidelining Rose and Finn was horribly criminal and hurt the film from the outside.

[@dplunk13]

Nice, concise breakdown. Very appreciated. Also, someone stop Chris Terio from writing movies and Abrams/Snyder from directing big franchises. Retroactively enforcing anti-trust against corporations like Disney would be great too. Please, we beg you.

[@brianm4849]

The only issues I had with Rise of Skywalker were the ones created by Rian Johnson in Last Jedi.

[@ryanbell6672]

Rise really is not good once you watch it enough. It is however easier to swallow than Last Jedi, so eat up

[@halolegend1172]

Return of the jedi is my favorite star wars movie, while I *liked the rise of Skywalker, it doesn't touch the original trilogy

[@brendanmcelroy6602]

Heart breaking. What was done in the Star Wars Palpatine finale... I hope it can be fixed in the future.

[@mobilemayham6642]

Late comment but Yeah, great point. Star Wars is people not being bad, but the decisions they make being bad and how anyone can come back from it

[@carlpeterson8182]

Th great thing about Luke in ROTJ is that he is strong emotionally and psychologically. That is why he wins. He was never the best Jedi as far as his powers. But he was the one who ccould withstand the schemes and manipulation of the emporer. So it is not that there is no manipulation of that the Emporer was not mind controlling Anikan and others on the dark side. And even Yoda, Ben Kenobe etc. as far as they could not understand what the Palpatine was doing or really how to stop him. Only Luke could withstand Palpatine and knew there was still good in Vader. Luke was the only one who knew how to defeat Palpatine and had the emotional fortitude to do it. Everyone else was somewhat clueless (even Yoda and younger Luke) or gave in to Palpatine's manipulation like Anikan. That is why I liked the transformation of Anikan to Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith (although it might be too sudden of a change). Anikan was beaten down by Palpatine not because he was not a super powerful Jedi with a lot of cool skills. He was all that and more. But Anikan was weaker than Luke where and when it counted. Luke was a man while Anikan was a perpetual kid. Luke was the true hero that transcended even the physical fights. The last battle with Palpatine in ROTJ was more of a psychological victory than one of raw brute force. AS I have grown older I have grown to love that about Star Wars (original trilogy). We worship athletes, politician, or leaders because they are powerful. Lucas made the hero a man. Luke was the hero that showed a real man, or a real hero (whatever sex) could be powerful because of their convictions and virtue. This was awesome. The sequels destroyed this. Rey was perfect from the beginning. She never had to grow. Boring. No moral development. Boring.

[@JoJo45x]

Thank you for the music it definitely uplifted my mood 😂

[@missymotors]

4:02 🤣😭you kill me

[@PradigyMusicman]

Darth jar jar would have been fuckin epic

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Rey should have been Luke's biological daughter.

[@RuminatingRaptor]

According to when the commercial cut in, JJ Abrams dreamed of being a mini wheat without frosting.

[@alexboyajian2096]

I'm fine with palpatine being in the film. It makes him the main villian of the entire saga (which I like) i just wanted him to be introduced earlier, like at the end of last jedi instead of broom boy. I also hated that Rey was Palpatine. I've always hoped she'd be han and leia's lost daughter who trained to be a jedi and was left for dead when the temple fell.

[@danielschoch4881]

Lukes daughter would have been the best.

[@gameschadwick]

I would’ve liked if Obi-Wan and Satine had a daughter revealed to be Sabine and she and Ezra Bridger were revealed to be Rey’s parents.

[@mitchellmastell5280]

I agree I thought she woulda been Han and leia’s daughter as well. Because in the books they had two kids that were trained by Luke to become jedi. So that would have been a better story arc to follow. Along with maybe Luke’s wife being trained as a jedi along side them or in flashbacks to have been the one to eventually leave the new jedi order and become the new sith order. Or something

[@shaynethomas8880]

3:39 dude. Wrong clip from TFA, that should be Poe in the chair getting tortured....poe is the sequal's Leia

[@gregmanca1474]

Hey Ryan Really enjoy your channel-.keep up the great work!