Star Wars THE ACOLYTE S1 Ep 3 REVIEW!! | Darth Plagueis | Anakin Skywalker | THE GEEK BUDDIES

[@Playhouse76]

They've still left Anakin's parentage undefined. Charles Soule, the writer of Darth Vader #25, has said that this was a vision filtered through Vader's psyche seeming to provide answers but isn't reality. The idea is that Anakin believes/d that Palpatine created him to show how much he's bought into his master's worldview and machinations. I have a feeling they are trying to leave the truth of that alone in deference to George Lucas.

[@anakinSkyhopper91]

Cringe as heck

[@rogersjgregory]

The Jedi do not take children against their will. They ask permission from their guardian, and they offer the child a choice, but the children get to choose. I don’t get why people keep calling the Jedi child snatchers, or why new Lucasfilm seem to want to give anyone that impression. The Jedi Academy is like a boarding school, you live there while you study. I’m sure that not every student/padawan graduates to a Jedi Knight, some might flunk it, or just find that it’s not for them.

[@majorlazor5058]

Nah.. the Jedi are straight up taking kids from their parents even after the parents so no.

[@rogersjgregory]

@@majorlazor5058 where do they do that? I haven't seen an example.

[@majorlazor5058]

@@rogersjgregory they use their mind powers to make the parents agree to give up their kid. No sane parent would give their beloved toddler to strangers in a cult.

[@rogersjgregory]

@@majorlazor5058 that sounds more like your own personal theory. If this did happen, then point to evidence. What book, tv show or movie did this happen in, and who did it?

[@majorlazor5058]

@@rogersjgregory the whole idea of people completely giving up their children to the Jedi at a very young age is just stupid. I have never liked it. If they made it so the families still were allowed contact with the children it would make more sense. Just think about it.. what kind of decision making ability does a 3 or 4 year old have for deciding the remaining course of their life? Even if the parents “volunteer” to give up their kids, the child doesn’t have consent. In most of the fiction I’ve seen with children joining the Jedi, it was because force users were being targeted by the dark side… there is a reason for this.

[@antzvoli4577]

I enjoyed it- found it captivating if I'm honest. Feels these days if u say u liked star wars u get attacked and labeled a weirdo, but whatevs, having fun with it. Only negative some of the actingthis episode was a little weak.

[@gregv2k]

And you thought the village women singing to Aquaman was cringe

[@shannonmcclung9405]

Woooof, those sweater-smelling ladies were so cringe…

[@arlenfaloon6058]

That was the first thing I thought of.

[@flyswatter0182]

That sweater sniffing was pretty cringe

[@CharlesStanleyArt]

Wasn't as cringe as the singing aliens in The Marvels 😂

[@majorlazor5058]

Aquaman singing was way worse.

[@camdamelio4334]

A member of the Lucasfilm story group confirmed that Palpatine did not create Anakin, it was just in the comic a visual metaphor for Anakin being destined to be under Palpatine's thrall.

[@camdamelio4334]

This doesn't mean that Mae and Osha's creation contradicts Star Wars canon (it doesn't) it just means that wasn't the case with Anakin.

[@Vulcanerd]

My suspicion is that it was Plagueis or even Plagueis’s master who creates Anakin with the Force pulled from Aniseya’s knowledge of it before she died.

[@michaelmccarstle4527]

Came here to say the same. The writer of the comic has publicly stated that the intention of that panel was not to imply that Palpatine made Anakin, just that he has long been a negative influence on him.

[@thejediofchicago6580]

Michael is incorrect when he talks about how Anakin was created at the 25:00. The comic panel he's talking about is a Dark Side vision of Anakin's worst fear, that Palpatine had something to do with his creation. The author of the Darth Vader comic, Charles Soule, and LFL story group member Matt Martin confirmed this several years ago. Anakin was created by the Will of the Force in response to Palpatine and Plagueis meddling with the midiclorians and the Force, but they had no direct involvement in Anakn's creation

[@josephashley4122]

Pulling put lightsaber was like cops in 80s during DARE program being peace officers to neighborhoods by being nice kids asking if they safe and giving candy & trading cards.

[@David-hc4xh]

Probably the worst episode of Star Wars. Mae is unlikeable, she murdered Jedi! Why? Osha wants to be a Jedi. Why? the Jedi are being crucified in this story! The Covan chanting was cringe worthy and use of the force looked like air bending. What’s missing from the story is a clear motivation from the characters that we can relate to on a human level, in this way the story is poorly structured.

[@josephashley4122]

Think Jodie Smith can be a great Storm. She pretty much acted like Storm on the show

[@PhoenixForceTravelAgency]

Been saying that for like 3 years now!!!! Jodie would be an amazing Storm!!!

[@Masklessvizard]

My thing is...how are the little girls twins when they clearly don't look alike. But....they grow up to look identical? Gene's don't work that way. LMAO 😂😂😂

[@thejuansnow]

Man it's called suspension of disbelief

[@alllife123]

Have you seen the Uso twins in WWE? They look identical but actually paternal... Sometimes genes do work that way.

[@Vulcanerd]

I don't know how much I like the idea of Force mind controlling Mae, but I wonder if that may have played a part. We see in Episode 1 where young Mae's eyes turn black when Osha chases her down after the prison ship cash.

[@stevena.7022]

Ever see Into the Badlands? The hero's eyes go black and they go into super insane kill mode. I'm afraid it's just ITB

[@paulab5264]

Yes I noticed that too, her eyes go black like Torbin's when he is possessed by Aniseya.

[@stephengabbey8908]

Fell asleep watching the first 2 episodes have not seen the 3rd

[@cy8eray22]

This episode highlighted again the arrogance and presumption of the Jedi movement imo. This came across in the prequels as well from a political perspective. I found this witch coven fascinating. The Force is neutral and there would be many interpretations of it. The Jedi should have either left this coven alone or just observed it to add to their own knowledge.

[@paulab5264]

Yes I agree this was a flashback from Osha's point of view, and hopefully we will see another flashback from Mae or Sol's point of view later, with the rest of the story, because there is definitely more to the story. In a galaxy this big, it makes sense that there would be a sect of force witches practicing the force differently and calling it by a different name. The question is, were the witches in fact practicing the dark side? Maybe that's why jedi were on Brandok, to investigate.

[@Diana-wk9qv]

Love these long videos with you three 👌

[@MrChaosi]

is this some kind of denial that that they are in? or is this another show?..... this was a fucking dumpsterfire of an episode..

[@Piratesi666]

In what way?

[@JohnRochaSays]

Sorry you feel that way. These are our authentic feelings about the show.

[@Piratesi666]

Jesus christ! Thank You! Its refreshing to see a grown up take on what we saw. Ive seen so many dumb takes on it, seems like a lot of people are done with SW and need to move on. I can’t wait to find out how it all plays out, and i hope it sticks the landing. I’m still intrigued and excited.

[@commandZee]

You guys pretty much sum it up. The progress on the lore is intriguing but the execution is flat. Relative to other series I find it very dull, but I might keep watching mainly because there ain't anything else on Tuesday nights and I want to keep up with review videos by TGB and my other favorite content creators.

[@crawdaddct]

I think we get three versions of the events. Mae did it, Jedi did it, then in the last episode, who really did it. 😂

[@richardlogan850]

I don't get all the hate. I read the high republic comic series and the novel by Charles soule so I was excited for this show. It's pretty good

[@donramon9723]

It’s the femalecentrism that’s Alienating fanboys. People hated the willow series and are afraid sw is going that direction. Men are traitorous. Possessed and need strong female characters to lead them.

[@MrChaosi]

well the hate is mostly because the show is god fucking awfull..

[@Piratesi666]

@@MrChaosiGrEaT criticisms there mate. Well done.

[@MrNathansdad]

Listen John, I've told you before. You're 10+ years younger than me. Stop calling yourself old! 🫣

[@cmk921]

This might be the worst show in all of broadcast history

[@thechewatson]

I don’t understand why it looks so flat? Like it’s filmed in a cupboard with a 60’s Star Trek set

[@thejuansnow]

I think that may be a tv or phone issue on your end it looks fine on my devices and tv

[@jaredjudnich]

Mike as much a I love you, you are wrong on the creation of Anakin. Both Matt Martin from the story group and Charles Soule, the writer have, in no uncertain terms, debunked the idea that Palps created Ani. LFL's position now is that it was the will of the force itself that created Anakin in response to the growing darkside power of Plageuis and Sidious

[@argonout5]

Yikes…hearing this makes me feel like I am taking crazy pills. Awful writing awful acting. Star Wars in name only… guess this ship has sailed.

[@rogersjgregory]

Michael is assuming a lot, by saying the Jedi know how the twins were created. Also, they haven’t revealed how they created them yet, so stating that they were created using the force/thread, is premature.

[@Iam2flycam]

Shannon once again speaking my launguage with the Colleague comment 😂😂. Just so off brand for jedi. Jodie Smith and the Ms. Levieva were excellent 👌🏽. I just hope telnacca isn't a saboteur and the Sith is who killed everyone

[@razo411]

It must be very difficult to defend Star Wars now. I hope they get paid what they deserve jajaja

[@cloverraven]

I’m not defending an episode I didn’t like, but I think Sol gave the lightsaber to Osha to diffuse the situation by giving up his weapon.

[@stevena.7022]

Lol. "Stop arguing everyone the baby's got a gun!" I'm going to use this at Thanksgiving.

[@cloverraven]

@@stevena.7022 just that someone dangerous was now unarmed.

[@bajansamurai]

Pretty much ​@@cloverravenand it is meant to work on multiple symbolic levels: 1. A saber represents the Jedi's power, he's giving it up in front the Coven 2. The child is interested in us Jedi, here's a symbol of what we are 3. This is how much we want to establish trust in our good intents that even a child can hold onto what you fear we will use against you

[@TobyLerone76]

Child presses a single button unknowingly and INSTANTLY decapitates herself.... Yeah very symbolic guyz

[@bajansamurai]

@@TobyLerone76 Never meant it as the safest and smartest thing to do, I meant it literally as the narrative symbolism of what people associate with the Jedi. Could accidentally igniting it go horribly wrong? Yup. There in lies the "trust" and the willingness to show that (ignore the reality of handing a child a plasma torch for a moment and go with "he force blocked the on switch" 😅)

[@Vulcanerd]

If Aniseya used the Force to create Mae and Osha inside of Koril, I get why they wouldn't look like Koril since there's no genetic connection to Koril.

[@stevena.7022]

Not sure why force babies look like anyone, or like eachother. Maybe they should look like Anakin ? I thought he was supposed to look like Shmi.

[@Jim.Simpson]

This isn't Star Wars.

[@thejuansnow]

How

[@Jim.Simpson]

@@thejuansnow really? How? It's fan fiction. It in NO way aligns with the creator's (Lucas) vision. They bought the rights to continue the story not to change it.

[@thejuansnow]

@Jim.Simpson no no, you tell ME how it isn't star wars. Because as a 25+ year fan I can tell you 2 things 1 it in no way goes against established lore And 2 it's no more fan fiction than the EU was as THOSE weren't following George's vision at all either. If you're not one of those who gets offended by the inclusion of POC and queer folksnthis show is FINE. it's flawed sure, but so is the entire franchise

[@Jim.Simpson]

@@thejuansnow well given that I have 40 plus years of being a fan and represent one of four generations in my family of fans, I'll explain myself to you. The fact that you bring up sex and ethnicity helps to clarify the lack of understanding you have for the IP. Those issues were dealt with long before the story started being told. George Lucas has made it very clear that this is a universe that has moved on from those types of issues. That's what makes it very clear, and I mean very clear, that this show is nothing more than an attempt to bring modern politics into the storytelling. What they have done is stopped telling fresh stories and focused on retconning the things they don't like. The reason that Anakin was so special was because he was conceived without natural methods. This show removes that. It means that Yoda, mace, Qui-Gon jinn, and even Obi-Wan Kenobi wasted all of their time and energy. Anakin was not special, therefore Luke and Leia had no purpose, and Rey were of no real significance. What this show is attempting to do is remove all of the understanding we have around the universe of Star Wars. It's not going to work. The reason that the fans have United in rejecting it is because it undoes the very nature of that universe. So I appreciate your 25 plus years of being a fan. I appreciate that you think that it's significant that these people are talking about who they sleep with and what color their skin is. Unfortunately Star Wars universe does not care about those things. And ultimately those who are fans do not care either. The fans are sick and tired of the conversations that come from the position of hate and intolerance.

[@thejuansnow]

@Jim.Simpson I keep trying to reply but I'm working so it keeps getting erased, I only mention race and sexuality because I've been seeing so much hate surrounding that online. They don't even say these women are lesbians a woman touches another woman's face, that's not really pushing anything on anyone. I'll come back to explain how this absolutely does not take away from anakins being special in a few, because according to all lore we have ot really doesnt

[@philrm99]

Those witches sure do act like Sith 😮

[@AverageJoe483]

At least the Sith don’t sing and chant

[@Iam2flycam]

​@AverageJoe483 did you see rise of Skywalker?? Plenty of sith chanting at the end lol😅

[@AverageJoe483]

@@Iam2flycam I actually didn’t see it .

[@AverageJoe483]

@@IndianaJake well I stand corrected 😂

[@willfilmon182]

@@AverageJoe483 thank goodness

[@ZachBobBob]

I'm with Michael, SUPER underwhelmed by this episode and I blame the buzz. This episode was not mind-blowing nor did it completely ruin or shake up Star Wars lore or canon. It was just okay. And I hate petulant, bratty kids so the twins really got on my nerves this episode. When the mother pushed them over I was like THANK GOD. I don't blame the kids acting at all, the direction and writing for them was just not good. Jodie was easily the best part of this episode. Agree with the hokey chant too, and I was so embarrassed when it because part of the score.

[@joshlin8002]

This is really bad..

[@Chris_tothefuture]

I think it added to the lore!

[@4litrespoolyboi206]

Imagine shilling for lucasfilm, marvel, and Disney for over a decade in order to gain access, and become part of the in-crowd, only to barely get 8000 views per video…

[@matthewjakub9419]

Typical cockroach behavior plus prob super liberal

[@crosscutgames]

Geek Buddies do not disappoint! Love your insights and comments. I didn't like the episode and really am not liking the show much. As a viewer, it's a struggle to forgive the poor acting, dialog, and pacing.

[@jarvisjones3684]

Well said

[@Vulcanerd]

I get why people may be a bit upset about Anakin no longer seemingly being unique by being created by the Force. His 'Chosen One' status was already usurped by Rey in the ST and, here, we're seeing someone else (elses, I guess) pre-empting Anakin once again. What I don't have time for is the subsequent screeching and gnashing of teeth and spewing vitriol b/c of it. Any time SW kinda goes back and pre-empts or undercuts a previous character or storyline, it annoys me. It even annoys me in my favorite series, Star Trek; I would point to the Trials and Tribulations episode and, while I'm not a fan of Tribbles or Tribbles episodes, in general, I never liked it b/c it undercuts Kirk and the TOS crew's heroic efforts to save the day by having Sisko & Co steal their thunder. So, I get it. I just refuse to go all toxic over it.

[@DamnFineCupOfCoffee]

My hope is that we saw was Osha (and us) being mind tricked. The memory she thinks she had.

[@Piratesi666]

Why would the Jedi do that?

[@Mertaranta]

Campea also leaned into this theory that what we were shown at the end was a misdirect.

[@Piratesi666]

@@Mertaranta I don’t know, doesn’t seem very SW. i think they showed enough so we havent seen the whole picture anyway. Apparently theres another episode with CAM so i imagine we’ll see another perspective, not necessarily a different one.

[@DamnFineCupOfCoffee]

@@Piratesi666 trying to protect the reputation of the institution for the greater good

[@CHarr1991]

An hour long YESSSSSSS!!! oh this episode definitely has folks talking!!

[@Piratesi666]

I feel like they’re nailing the mystery and magic, tbf. But yeah I didn’t enjoy the chanting, but its nothing new. Plenty of weird shit in TCW.

[@derekjohnson9121]

The writer Charles soule that did the comic where the idea came from that palpatine created anakin said that it was a dream and hinted at but that the narrative that he's from palpatine is not real it wasn't confirming anything. honestly all this story is just all over the place for me

[@cloverraven]

I hate watched these kids. Idk why they bothered me so much. I’ve seen iffy child actors before.

[@TaeTrice1]

The more I think about this episode, the more I think a lot of how people are being portrayed is way off. This is all from OSHAs POV right? If she wants to get away so badly, of course she’s going to see anything having to do with leaving in this positive glowing light. She’s going to see her sister as this smothering force and her other mother as being super harsh, etc. because to do otherwise could make her want to stay. She’s a child and everything seems bigger. Mae could potentially not be anywhere near as “evil” or pushy in actuality, but the lens which osha sees her life could be distorting what’s really happening.

[@Playhouse76]

These Jedi are a fascinating in-between from the more benevolent Jedi of The High Republic we've seen from the books and comics and the Jedi we see during the Prequel era. I think we're seeing that transition, which is why we're questioning the Jedi here.

[@Chris_tothefuture]

Rocha’s audio in this one is hard to deal with. What his volume going up and down when he was talking. Almost like there was noise reduction turned on. Or something.

[@JohnRochaSays]

That’s weird. I listened to the show and all my levels were on point. I’ll look into it tho.

[@Chris_tothefuture]

@@JohnRochaSays yeah it was weird, Mikey and Shanon sounded fine. it was strange! thanks for the awesome episode. sorry I typed your name wrong! my bad!

[@juanplazas4593]

Cringiest shit I've ever seen 🙄 The last nail on the coffin of Star Wars

[@JohnRochaSays]

Nah. It keeps going. It'll outlive you, me and everyone we know. Be well.

[@RokBraker]

Loved the story but strong in the cring it was. Exploring the force lore always works me, so found that part great.

[@candc8628]

Great review guys! FYI though on the Osha and Mae fight during Mother Aniseya's lesson - You can see that Osha is playing with the fruit and Mae keeps hitting her to tell her to focus but Osha repeatedly doesn't listen and keeps messing with the fruit so the fight certainly does not happen out of nowhere.

[@Vulcanerd]

Here I was puffing my chest out for my 'brilliant' Mae/Osha theory and, when I posted it, I hadn't gotten to the part where Vogel nails all the points I thought I was being all ingenius about = P

[@greatkhan7114]

Also disagree with Johns comment on the clunkiness..i thought that was fine..when you have kids it will make sense

[@JohnRochaSays]

Well, I won’t be having any so I won’t experience the scene with that POV. But my criticism was not that the fight happened. It was more about how it was staged and how it pulled focus unnecessarily.

[@williamdaniels9728]

It was an awkwardly staged scene. The camera positioning and pacing. The guys point about pulling audience focus from what the mother was teaching was a mistake, there wasn't a lot of lead up to their disagreement or spat it just happened spontaneously all at once like a director said "and now you start arguing and bickering". It didn't feel like there was any emotional weight behind why. It wasn't so much the performance as it was the direction-writing there.

[@robertc2121]

This is really interesting. I came into this like when Solo was released with very low expectations - as I felt robbed of any story from the Last jedi. but Like Solo Im really enjoying the story, especially being dripfed details makes one really look forward to next week and where its going

[@Playhouse76]

And I think you guys are spot on with the speculation about the Jedi involvement in the fire and the explosion. Totally missed Torbin having the wound when Osha wakes on the ship; great catch, John. Some devious shit definitely went down.

[@Frank-ui3gh]

Idk, the more we get deeper into the Jedi mythos is making me really dislike Jedi’s in general. Is that Disney’s and stars wars goal? Why should I root for a Jedi ever again? They are a awful cult.

[@matthewjakub9419]

This reminds me of people eating mcdonalds and using terms like flavor profile in their review lol

[@CHarr1991]

I’m sooooo ready for THIS deep dive! Thanks in advance, these Star Wars fandom streets are getting wild again and I love that Geek Buddies is always a safe space for discourse and discussion

[@Vulcanerd]

These Geek Buddies Jedi are not who you think they are. Rocha Skywalker will murder a bunch of younglings then become Darth Rocha exterminating Geeks throughout the galaxy. Obi-wan Vogel will go into exile and ShannonD2 will bounce around several masters before he winds up with Bale Kalinowski. 😝

[@Mike19737]

Vulcanerd (LOVE the name 🤓🖖) the hate this series is getting is INSANE! Is is Andor, Ahsoka or Mado level good? No. It is better than Obi Wan or Boba Fett. Yes. I am enjoying the show because it is its own show. It’s a mystery. It reminds me of Columbo. Every episode would begin SHOWING the audience the murder plot. Then it was up to Columbo to figure out WHY the murder happened. We DEFINITELY do not know what fully happened. I am sure episode 5 (which is supposed to be THE crazy episode) will show it from Mae and the Jedi’s “certain point of view”. Overall, I give the series (so far) a 7.5 out of 10.

[@Vulcanerd]

@@Mike19737 Yeah, I’m liking it too. Is is the best thing since Empire? No. But, I do like it. In fact, I’m an avowed ST hater, but I’ve really enjoyed the tv series. I was behind years and recently started catching up. I haven’t seen Ahsoka yet (in the middle of Rebels now), but I pretty much like all the other Disney era tv shows, even Boba and Obi-wan. And thanks! I love me my Trek (best sci-fi series. Bring it on all you SW nerds! 🖖😝).

[@thecriticandtheuncle5784]

Yes, the only safe space in Star Wars

[@Viper_75th_RR]

IMO, this series has been a joke. The space witch lesbian musical scene was one of the cringiest television moments ever.

[@Lucy-td9zc]

If Mother Aniseya was the one who created them, why wasn't she also the one to carry them? "Immaculate conception" requires a woman to carry the child, which she could have done herself. I'm with Mike - underwhelmed. I'm getting from everyone who's seen Ep4 that they're going to do a Rashomon thing - a great movie that worked well b/c the basic story was a simple one. Not sure anything in the SW universe is all that simple. Covering my eyes.

[@williamdaniels9728]

I always thought in my own head canon that Plagueis created Anakin upon his death at the hands of Sidious-Palpatine as some sort of revenge against Sidious-Palpatine for killing him too soon*, a sort of final lesson for Palpatine. According to the lore Plagueis was more interested in powers and esoterism of the force whereas Palpatine had political ambitions to dominate people. Plagueis was trying to learn how to live forever like previous Vitiate before him. It would be ironic if on his death bed Plagueis reached out into the force and "created" Anakin and the story would come full circle.

[@matthewheywood8532]

In every Star Wars lore movie , shows , books , comics etc… the Jedi or Sith learn techniques from ancient teachings usually in Jedi or Sith holocrons. Plagaus learning how to manipulate life from this coven of witches lines up perfectly in the timeline. I have no problem with this and liked this episode

[@jollyrayda]

Thanks for a great discussion guys. Helped solidify something for me - this episode had the opposite effect it was supposed to, at least on me. I think the flashback (and the more to come - and are they really going to do 3 episodes out of 8 as Rashomon? That feels like a choice) are supposed to show us how the girls ended up the way they are - but this episode made me care _LESS_ about all of it. The girls, their background, the Jedi involved, the story that got us to this point - I was slightly intrigued after the first two episodes. Now I'm feeling that I'm going to have to force (no pun intended) myself to tune in again. I will, because I'm hoping the clunkiness of this episode is a one off, but for me personally 'Destiny' was super off-putting.

[@dkarras]

Another great thoughtful review Buddies ! I haven’t read any of HR Phase 2 yet but know there’s a comic focusing on Porter Engle (The Blade of Badotta). Please no replies spelling out the details as I’m gonna get to it, thx. But in the TCW S6 arc The Disappeared, Dagoyan Masters of Bardotta are going missing which we find out is the result of Mother Talzin trying to regain corporeal form again. The Bardottan’s appeal to the senate for help & will only accept Senator Binks as an emmisary. Palps sees an opportunity to undermine the Jedi & so brings it to their attention from which we get : “A strong connection to the force the Dagoyan Masters have. Yet, unlike the Jedi or the Sith they are. Warriors, they are not. Intuition, knowledge, the harmony of the universe is what they sense. Passively they connect with the force. P: I wonder why the the queen doesn’t want a Jedi sent to solve this mystery ? Long ago inducted into the Jedi order Bardottan children were. However, thieves the Jedi were named by the Dagoyan. Mace: The Dagoyan Masters believed the Jedi took the children against their will, we were labelled as kidnappers.” Turning to what we haven’t seen of the tragedy/altercation; “I want to be a Jedi, mama. I do. I must discuss this situation with everyone here. But we will consider your wish when we do so." Seems like that discussion w/ evervone might not have gone very well. Aniseya's remark that Oshie will never see her again can be read as Jedi must sever all attachments but also can be read as foreknowledge of how the convo w/ the coven advisors was going to go 🤷‍♂️. Re: the Greek fates (Moirai); Clotho spins the thread of life, Lachesis measures it, & Atropos cuts (ends) it. The Peridea Night Sisters of Ahsoka were named Klothow, Lakesis, Aktropaw & their headdresses eluded to their respective roles. And finally a fun little easily missed detail is that the door of the room that Oshie is trapped in and is set ablaze is designed to resemble Vader’s helmet. Just a cool design choice as Vader obviously has nothing to do w/ this show 100yrs before he’s born. But maybe a foreshadowing of the beginning of the path that leads to him. Also a further link between Oshie & Mae & the Chosen One.

[@dkarras]

Forgot to add but while it’s in the trailer, it’s slightly spoilery… @ 0:21 of the trailer posted May 4th we can see what would appear to be Sol scaling the wall of the coven’s compound. We see this same part of the compound at the beginning of ep3 when Mother Koril takes the girls back. Curiously they are walking past what would seem to be the entrance and towards the part of the wall that in the trailer appears to be a Jedi (looks to be dark hair so likely Sol) climbing it.

[@brianinglis3805]

This show (The Acolyte) is still very average viewing (the writing & directing lets it down). But the this episode has left me somewhat intrigued by what actually happened in the castle, which I think is "the mystery" part of this show. Oh and I think the music is a highlight.

[@alrensha7479]

This epsiode was bad. Terrible dialogue, terrible editing, and pisses me off that they need to shi* on George Lucas and his established principles of the force. Why do they feel the need to blow up canon???? Annakin is no longer special. Also, fire on rock?

[@PhoenixForceTravelAgency]

I’m behind on the show and finally catching up. I saw where Episode 3 got a lot of shit before I watched it. I’m confused why people are so upset. I loved this episode!!!!! I love the fact that the show is showing a possible darker light to the Jedi order.

[@zach8475]

Flashbacks have their place in storytelling but not a whole episode. This is the worst episode so far. Would have been better to have this as episode 1.

[@Vulcanerd]

I’m just going to plaster my “big theory” about what’s going on here too. -Aniseya used the Force to create the twins. Koril mentioned how the Jedi would be upset if they knew how they were created. -Mae might have set the initial fire, but I suspect that, much like the Jedi were drawn to these two special kids, the Sith master tracked them down too in hopes of a potential apprentice and was responsible for the level of destruction and the deaths of the villagers. This would also still jive with how Mae thinks the Jedi were responsible. - I think the Sith master extracted the knowledge to create life through the Force from Aniseya and will use it to create Anakin Skywalker. Making this Sith Palaptine’s master or Palpatine’s master’s master. Let’s not forget the reference to the “unnatural”.

[@notrixamoris3318]

Bruh plagueis ia only 15 even though he is a genius still 15...

[@Playhouse76]

It's possible the master is Plagueis who learns that this happened but not how it happened, so he's spends the rest of his life trying to solve it through genetics and his own Dark Side ability to manipulate midi-chlorians. I'm thinking the masked person is the master's (Plagueis') apprentice, recruiting their own acolyte to become their apprentice when they try to take out their master per the Rule of Two. Basically, as seems to be a number of things about the series, it's their version of Asajj Ventress with the masked person being the Dooku stand-in.

[@Vulcanerd]

@@notrixamoris3318 Right, but then this could be Plagueis' master, too.

[@Iam2flycam]

Very good theory, the sith lord of this time would have the most to gain from the coven being destroyed. BTW Darth plagueis does have a master. Master tenabress

[@joerossi6595]

The kids didnt stick out...? They're not twins...they look different.

[@thejuansnow]

On the no horns thing. In the lore zabrak are already a near human species, when they have kids they can look either human or zabrak as far as im aware

[@becausemiro]

Usually I’m very lenient when it comes to new Star Wars material, but this episode, oh boy, I couldn’t wait for it to end. I understand what this episode was for and the premise, but it just wouldn’t end. My friend who was watching the episode with me started the drinking game every time Mae said “Osha” and he got plastered by the end of it 😂

[@greatkhan7114]

I am intrigued by the mystery. Not liking the direction though. Sol is still my fav character. Overall its ok.I dont get the fuss about the lore. I want to see non jedi and sith force orgs...

[@LukeTG1_TTV]

We see in a trailer Kelnaka, attack who looks like Torbin in the witches coven. Wonder if we have another flashback

[@pjny21]

Yeah the direction sucked in this particular episode, but I love what the story is examining!

[@Yes_Boy]

56:15 can everyone in the Galaxy know about the Jedis but don't know their symbol?

[@elramillete]

The Jedi went from being mythical heroes of the galaxy to snoops and child thieves of the galaxy.

[@majorlazor5058]

They have always been child thieves.

[@majorlazor5058]

Lucas made that change 20 years ago and you people still praise the prequels.

[@elramillete]

@@majorlazor5058 jajaja "you people" This show is terribly written, the characters' reactions make no sense.

[@majorlazor5058]

@@elramillete the prequels are garbage and shows like this are handcuffed by the foundation of garbage they are built upon. Any long term storytelling involving the Jedi will be hampered by dumb stuff introduced in the prequels. Specifically the Sith rule of 2, stealing toddlers and infants, and the Jedi stoicism with no emotional attachment.. have all hampered storytelling. It’s why Filoni had to create the Inquisitors and completely ignore Jedi not having emotions and love interests.. but you give him a pass because you were 8 yrs old during those awful clone Wars cartoons.

[@elramillete]

@@majorlazor5058 The writing in this show is not above what was done in the prequels. 90% of the characters react in a very implausible way. ¿why do you think I give Filoni a pass? Ahsoka was a bad too

[@aynthewizard]

An excellent take, guys. Thanks!

[@MatthewPalanca]

I thought it was a great episode. Lots of story and lore to chew on

[@kingsfeatures2330]

Hey Guys. I am just going to be honest here. 1:07 into your intro you tell me what your experience is in "the industry". That is a huge red flag for most I think. If you agree with what you are watching, that just makes you chills, and if you don't, that will affect your future prospects in the industry... Sorry. This makes your opinions and insight worth nothing regarding anything you "review"... I don't even have to watch any of your videos beyond this point. Good luck.

[@JohnRochaSays]

Utter nonsense. We've never not told the truth in our opinions and analysis on things. We've shit on and praised directors, actors, producers, studios and projects. You always get our HONEST opinions here. I think what you're worried about applies to the bigger channels who are always kissing the studio's asses to go to premieres or to keep having access to junkets, red carpets and interviews with celebrities. Trust me. It ain't us you need to worry about on that front.

[@ronchess8813]

Child actor Leia Obi Wan Young Ashoka could act this 2 no

[@joerossi6595]

It looks cheap. Thats my issue. 180 million..make it look like Rouge One or Andor...

[@Piratesi666]

My biggest issue is that you can’t spell Rogue.

[@thesharpercoder]

[24:00] Guys, the twins are neither Messiahs or Chosen ones. The suggestion that Darth Sidious used the Force to somehow create a life and cause a woman he’s never met to become pregnant is not the takeaway I got from the opera scene in Ep.3. If anything., Palpatine was describing the actions of a Sith Master, who was later killed by his Apprentice. And, it was all a lie. We learn later that Palpatine was speaking about his relationship with his own Sith Master. He even tells Anakin that his Master never truly learned the secret, but together they may discover the secret.

[@thesharpercoder]

I’m sorry, Michael. You have no idea what you’re talking about most of time. Yoda was 100% correct when he told Luke that he was “the last of the Jedi.” All the character names that you rattled off after the [26:30] mark were not Jedi. Yoda was talking about people that were trained and knighted by Jedi Masters that lived in the Jedi Temple prior to Order 66. Luke is referred to as “The Last Jedi” in the opening crawl of Episode 7. Luke is also part of the double meaning behind the title of Ep.8, “The Last Jedi.”. Meanwhile, you other guys did not correct Michael. Good luck on future videos, guys.

[@Darrenleewright84]

Maybe these girls were the first dyad and the original downfall of the sith’s overall

[@joseph-ct7se]

Much needed this!!! Love this KZbin channel!! 😀

[@justinschultz4325]

Star Wars: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." It's not about pushing modern immoral agendas.

[@majorlazor5058]

😂😂

[@ronchess8813]

Witches tap into dark side Shannon is what😅😅😅😅

[@chrisretzlaff2895]

Lets Go!!!

[@curtis4176]

Jedi are bad kidnappers, I can’t believe I ever wanted to be one. Now I don’t

[@majorlazor5058]

If you had no idea with strangers taking small children from their parents up until now.. well what changed your mind?

[@afanofpeanuts7381]

Why would they do this to sw?

[@ronchess8813]

Witches singing was crap

[@bajansamurai]

What I gather is that the twins look nothing like Mother Koril because she is strictly a surrogate mother with no actual biological influence on their genetics. The twins are human and Black because they are essentially made in Mother Aniseya's image: wherher that was because of Force manipulation to spark life, or some Kaminoean-styled cloning science using Aniseya's eggs, or sleeping with a male (the Sith father) and for other reasons using Koril as the surrogate, they are biologically fashioned after Aniseya. As for the fire, it seems pretty clear that the fire only coincided with or was coordinated to occur at the same time as some other effect (whether poison, or physical attack) that actually killed the witches. Maybe that is the Sith looking to claim the twins the same way the Jedi came to get them, OR the Jedi intending to incapacitate the witches only long enough to leave with Osha uncontested and it going wrong, OR Koril being angry at the Coven and eliminating them so she could forceably keep Mae and Osha, either way I agree these accounts are only what informed Osha's and Sol's points of view on the past.

[@aoe41015]

Once I started looking at the world, stage around the actors I thought “so they’re definitely drawing reference from the visions episodes and then I immediately thought man this would have been excellent as a visions episode.

[@UPFX]

Hey guys. So refreshing to hear your overall positive feelings in this. The vitriol online from certain corners over the coven and the “mothers” is just getting exhausting. Funny that the same people now saying this shits on George Lucas’ vision are probably the same ones who claimed George Lucas r aped their childhood with the prequels. Personally, I found the episode interesting albeit clunky. Maybe that is in the direction like you said. Or.. maybe upcoming episodes will make us look back on this one and say “ah haaaaaa!” :) I’m still invested and am hoping for some action packed Star Warsy episodes in the coming weeks. Overall I have felt the show has been somewhat predictable so far, so I’m hoping it takes me in more unexpected directions soon. :) Thanks again for your take on it. Refreshing and entertaining as always. Hi Shannon.. 😂

[@JohnRochaSays]

Lotta unnecessarily angry people out there who are taking their hate about the world out on Star Wars. It's a shame to see. There are some legitimate criticisms out there and there are some sexist, racist and homophobic ones. Legitimate ones are worth listening to. The other ones are not.

[@MrPrice2U]

Shill-a-lot?

[@jarvisjones3684]

Someone let me know how this turns out...Or not ✌🏿

[@jimw966]

When the girls come back home, there is a whole bazaar/village outside their temple. That woman with the treats was not part of the Coven. So the Jedi to say “we thought this planet was abandoned” is ridiculous.

[@empyrealone]

I haven't even watched this video yet, just want to say before I see what you guys say, this episode of The Acolyte was soooo bad. I hated everything about it. Now to watch what you guys have to say

[@josephashley4122]

Disney not going to go all the way unlike Netflix. I mean they could at least give a kiss on a cheek with blushing.

[@Umbradomo]

For those thinking of the twins as a mystery, it's simple. Mother Aniseya is a Futanari. By the way if you don't know what a Futa is, don't google it at work. Safe search alerts may go off. 😈

[@nmichaelmurphy]

I cannot stop laughing.

[@JohnRochaSays]

It's good to be happy. Keep on laughing.

[@factualopinion4275]

Sith. Where is the sith masked person who i hope is tenebrous but probably wont be😀