Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Rick Eric Aaron and Calvin react to and discuss season 7 episode 10 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars - The Phantom Apprientice - #StarWars #TheCloneWars
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[@jamesmatthewthomas2758]

biggest gripe of the last season they did the Ahsoka episodes when there was a whole series of episodes explaining mauls saber. Ventress gets a black market yellow saber falls in love with quinlan vos dies defending him and is buried on dathomir, Maul senses the death of his sister and travels back to dathomir, takes her saber bleeds it and makes his new double.

[@Wolf6119]

I both love and hate the way you can just fucking FEEL the shadow of Palpatine hanging over this whole episode. You can practically hear him fucking cackling to himself the entire time.

[@Nerveroxis]

When the glass shatters you can hear his force scream as he attacks the jedi masters sent to arrest him.

[@Vahki100]

Next episode is all about that feeling...the empty dread that fills your heart. The way they used the music for that was indicative.

[@dylpickle0927]

@@Nerveroxis that's incorrect, that doesn't happen in the timeline until the next episode

[@Nerveroxis]

@@dylpickle0927 You are right, they do use Sidious scream though, it's right when Maul goes forward to attack.

[@Icybubba]

@@Nerveroxis Yeah it doesn't happen at that point but it was definitely intentional

[@acetrainer44]

Sam Whiter's performance here was incredible as always. His screams as Maul are still chilling to hear

[@theawesomeman9821]

what else is he in? God of War?

[@uilliam6926]

@@theawesomeman9821 He plays Starkiller (the main protagonist) for the star wars: Force unleashed games, also using his actual looks for the CG model of the character.

[@theawesomeman9821]

@@uilliam6926 cool

[@david_laranjeira]

He also voices the Son in the Mortis gods arc

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@theawesomeman9821 Cory Burton, Dooku's voice actor was in god of war though. As zeus.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

Let me go...LET ME DIE...WE ARE ALL GOING TO BURN...WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !!! Said by someone as powerful as Darth Maul is pretty distubing...and he was right ! Who knows what would have happened if his plan had work...

[@PierceArner]

That's one of the most intimidating lines especially because this series has gone to EXTREME lengths to show how many things Maul has been singularly willing to struggle and survive through, and he is *_TERRIFIED_* of this.

[@PierceArner]

@Rain A. While in general I agree with you about Episode 9, as all of J.J. Abrams' same issues that were present in *_Star Trek Into Darkness_* show up in that film as well, which had always been my primary concern about him directing it, I do have some exceptions because of this specific episode. I felt that Maul & Ahsoka here actually made Palpatine's presence in Episode 9 feel like less of an egregious issue. In this moment, Maul actually speaks totally honestly. He's the closest he's even been to acknowledging that he _deeply_ needs someone to help him, because he lacks the power to win on his own. Not just a pawn to use, but someone he cares for like he started to with his brother, Savage. It seems like there's a possibility that if Ahsoka had trusted Maul in that moment, that they might have stopped the Sith from taking over - solely because they were both outsiders that could have tipped the scales just at critical moments. Consider the conflict between Mace Windu, Palpatine, & Anakin. If Ahsoka shows up, she knows Anakin and he still trusts her even understanding why she left the order AND if she's with Maul, he also understands that sometimes you need to align with the bad guys to get something important - but Maul is unquestioningly truthful that Sidious will just use Anakin. What ruins that alliance is - fear. Ahsoka is afraid of being manipulated, is afraid of what Maul is saying, and that's a fear and regret that lasts for a long time - likely even into her choices in *_The Mandalorian_* as well. It's important that fear is what broke that, because like in *_Return of the Jedi_* it has to be replaced by a love that is strong enough to stand against that, which didn't exist between Maul & Ahsoka. As much as the circumstances could have been in their favor, Ahsoka's love for Anakin is never strong enough to turn him, which we see in _Twilight of the Apprentice_ and it's ONLY Luke's that is able to break that hold. Rey being connected to Palpatine, and Ben being connected to Anakin gives that part in Episode 9, which brings back that same alignment of light and dark that almost happened with Ahsoka & Maul. While both Palpatine's sudden return and Rey's heritage to him are parts of Episode 9 that I didn't at all enjoy, this actually gave me a lens through which I was able to find a way to appreciate that particular choice. (Even if for me personally, *_The Last Jedi_* still feels like an infinitely more satisfying ending to things). It was about ensuring that the love that almost existed between both sides wasn't lost and didn't turn back into a conflict, but that it was able to remain connected and keep the Force in balance.

[@yoshim616]

And then at the end of all this pretty much all the clones in the Siege of Mandalore end up burning and dying in the ship crash

[@ProtagonisTeneT]

@Raini Allen What sequels? They don't exist. Those are just fan fics

[@ethanthamouse6695]

@@ProtagonisTeneT i think filoni said that if they made a canon continuationof them he was gonna make the sequals and elseworld story or something

[@sofiyanali2489]

Next up: “The Republic couldn’t have asked for better soldiers, nor I a better friend.”

[@Attmanwart]

Chilling

[@sofiyanali2489]

@@Attmanwart Kinda like Han in Empire Strikes Back.

[@aje8790]

I feel like you are missing a word

[@sofiyanali2489]

@@aje8790 I just edited my original comment. Is it correct?

[@aje8790]

@@sofiyanali2489 sounds right

[@pwytbt]

I appreciated the discussion of Ahsoka's apparent willingness to agree with Maul, and especially Eric's explanation of why it was more of a means to ends to her, and not "I'm joining the dark side". To further support that, like Rick points out, this was a very classic Star Wars "Join Me" scene, but it had some very specific wording to it. Maul does use the language "join me" which has connotations of becoming one's apprentice. Yet Ahsoka pointedly responds with "I will *help* you", no 'joining' involved. So just more evidence to the point that she considers their goals aligned, not their values.

[@Wolf6119]

And I think it speaks just as much to Maul's fear, desperation, and openness of mind that comes as a result. At no point, for his part, does he imply that he wants Ahsoka to become his apprentice, or to embrace the Dark side, Hell he doesn't mention the Dark side at all. He genuinely just wants her help, in whatever capacity she's willing to give it, because he KNOWS how horrible Sidious is and what's coming for the galaxy is he gets his way. The fact that he doesn't say a single lie during the entire conversation just makes it all the more tragic.

[@jonathanshaw9704]

I’ve always identified Ahsoka as a Gray Jedi. She can skirt the line between light and dark, but she is more light side oriented than anything else.

[@wolfpack_104]

Not that I believed that Ahsoka would've joined the dark side, but had she teamed up with maul it could've been interesting to see just how far she would push herself beyond the Jedi code in order to save the galaxy. Makes me wish for an elseworld storyline, like Marvel's "What if..." series, where we see how those events would play out. I don't think Ahsoka could've redeemed Vader, but I believe she could've stopped Anakin from making his greatest mistake.

[@TheTolister]

@@Wolf6119 I wouldn't say that Maul is affraid of Sidious, because of what Sidious might do to the galaxy. It's more about what would he do to him. After all, Maul is dark inside, even if he's not a Sith. He just wants Sidious out of the picture, because he would kill him, it's simple motivation.

[@Nerveroxis]

Both Maul and Ahsoka view Sidious as the ultimate enemy, but want to see him defeated for different reasons. Maul still has very traditional Sith ideas of gaining power, while Ahsoka still has very traditional Jedi ideals of wanting peace. It is interesting because the timing means that if Maul and Ahsoka left for Coruscant they would arrive around the same time as Obi-Wan and Yoda. Imagine Ahsoka going with Obi-Wan to Mustafar, and Maul possibly facing a decision of fighting against Sidious with Yoda or joining Sidious again. Would be a great rewrite the saga moment since Maul killing Qui-Gon put Anakin on the path to becoming Vader. Duel of the Fates is named as such because it is deciding the fate of Anakin. If Qui-Gon lives then he becomes the father figure for Anakin instead of Palpatine and Anakin never becomes Vader. Fun to think about, but I think Maul would try to join Yoda then try to find a way to kill both him and Sidious.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

The best lightsaber fight in all of Clone Wars, choragraph by the original Darth Maul Ray Park of course...It's perfection...

[@andrewcundill3660]

A.........greed

[@spicysnowman8886]

100%

[@TheRealFalkerry]

Best ? idk about that but definitely top 3 with Sidous Maul Oppress and Obi Anakin Dooku from Season 6

[@andrewcundill3660]

@@TheRealFalkerry no this is better

[@aje8790]

I would say this is the best fight in Star Wars period

[@swissaviation]

This is the most epic episode of any Star Wars TV show.

[@evansanchez8722]

Yes. Agreed

[@atlantis315]

there´s an argument to be made that this is one of the most epic parts of ANY Star wars. not just tv shows, period.

[@swissaviation]

@@atlantis315 The only thing that beats this in terms of epicness is probably the Mustafar duel (imo).

[@impossibleypossible5647]

I'm still partial to "rookies" having the best combat scenes from the CW Tv show. This as a lightsaber fight is definitely in the top 5.

[@swissaviation]

@@impossibleypossible5647 Rookies? With the stiff season 1 animation? No thanks. Also I'm not particularly talking about the lightsaber fight (which is not only top 5 but top 1) but the whole episode. Rookies isn't anywhere near this league.

[@DougCube]

Fun fact: The motion capture actress for Ahsoka was also a stunt double for Ming-Na Wen and Chloe Bennet in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..

[@andrewli6606]

Also Elektra in Daredevil and Defenders.

[@Fi_Sci_]

I believe that same person also did the stunts for The Armorer in The Mandalorian.

[@georgechampion1932]

I think she is also Yolanda, wildcat in stargirl

[@DougCube]

@@georgechampion1932 I was about to say you're wrong, but then looked it up and it's true. She does Yolanda, Tigress, and Shiv.

[@ahsokatano5866]

"You're all going to burn! We are all going to die!"

[@burni82]

Actually it's "You're all going to burn, we're all going to die" 🤓

[@EEE-CEE]

Actually gives me chills hearing him say it every time

[@nerdvisions4625]

Of course I know him... he is me

[@brandanpalmer]

"too late? for what? the republic to fall? it only has, and you just cant see it. The time of the Jedi has passed. they cannot destroy Sidious. but you, and I, can. Every choice you have made, has led to this moment." -- that is perhaps the best bit of voice acting i have ever heard and seen.

[@daniels1986]

Yes!

[@charliefontana1821]

Too late for what? The Republic to fall? It already has and you just can’t see it. There is no justice, no law, no order except for the one that will replace it! The time of the Jedi has passed. They cannot defeat Sidious. But together, You and I, can…… ….. Every choice you have made has lead you to this moment……

[@jonathanshaw9704]

One of the best lightsaber fights ever. I love how Ahsoka rakes her sabers forward during her fights instead of straight up swinging them. Also, CONGRATULATIONS on the engagement, Eric!!!

[@gabrielcarrasco8414]

She had to be more cautious, because of the double blade of Maul. Notice she didn't use as much acrobatics either.

[@SwordTune]

Rakes? Never heard that term before.

[@mlgnerd13]

It's my personal favorite fight. I'm not a fan of the prequel fights for the most part, and I feel like those are the only ones that can come close to this fight

[@Pinkielover]

not the best but its top 5

[@g3eneralz382]

"There's no justice no law no Order, except for the one that will replace it!" "Justice is nearly the construct of the current power base" Soooo, great lines. Maul is amazing!

[@PierceArner]

Everything in this episode is so good - but Maul screaming in absolute helpless panic at the end of the episode communicates a level of sheer terror that nothing else in all of Star Wats has managed to match. Everything about Maul's arc has been focused on surviving the most brutal circumstances, and he's gone to the brink of madness and back, and knows what he's capable of, but _here_ in the moment we get a sense of JUST how terrifying Sidious is to someone who knows him better than anyone.

[@bradybunch4278]

This is so true. Watching Mauls reactions when Sidious is brought up sends shivers down my spine. Similar to the hallway scene in Rogue One, which was the only time I have ever been truly terrified of Vader. It’s a shame the first six films could never really convey that.

[@ahsokatano5866]

"Only for you to take his place!" "Never!"

[@nerdvisions4625]

Lady Tano

[@ahsokatano5866]

@@nerdvisions4625 Maul?

[@nerdvisions4625]

I was hoping for Kenobi...why are you here?

[@ahsokatano5866]

@@nerdvisions4625....

[@claytonsackett8237]

I only wish we had gotten this before knowing the fates of these characters. (Apparently George Lucas wanted to do the fights in mo-cap for the series from the beginning but the technology for a television budget wasn’t there yet.)

[@Fi_Sci_]

That being said most of the duels early on were still fairly impressive considering the technology limitations. Aside from that one Janky move by Ventress when she was going to stab Obi-Wan on Teth, that was a badly animated moment in my opinion.

[@hawkfan3542]

It's funny because the other two haven't watched all of Rebels yet, so they aren't spoiled about what happens to them.

[@dragonhunter1315]

Yeah, in season 8, which would have included the Siege of Mandalore arc if we look at all of the unfinished story arc's production codes, probably would have aired from 2015 to 2016 and we would have kept guessing what would happen to Ahsoka, Maul and Rex, as their fates would have been left in the air. Would they survive Revenge of the Sith, do Ahsoka and Rex go into hiding, what does Maul do when Palpatine now rules the Galaxy. Apparently in George Lucas' sequel trilogy Maul would have returned as the main antagonist as the ruler of the underworld with Legends character Darth Talon as his new apprentice

[@claytonsackett8237]

@@hawkfan3542 They’ve watched Mandalorian Season 2 so they know Ahsoka’s fate.

[@hawkfan3542]

Lol. Good point. I forgot

[@ofstarsanddust]

Eric... how... how do you know the music this well. Duel of the Fates and Ahsoka's theme blew my mind.

[@_hassan_ridha_]

What did he say? What’s the time stamp

[@CoryFaist]

@@_hassan_ridha_ At 28:00 he starts pointing out that the music of Duel of the Fates and Ahsoka's theme start off *very* similarly.

[@Wolf6119]

It's wild to watch this now and realize they recorded this before Mandalorian Season 2 lol

[@DarkElfPaladin]

Especially when you see her transition from disbelief that Anakin would fall to her lines to Din about "the best of us" not being able to have attachments.

[@Nerveroxis]

@@DarkElfPaladin Well, we see her in Rebels, and 25 or so years have passed from this episode to her apperance in Mando

[@DarkElfPaladin]

@@Nerveroxis I was not saying that as a criticism. I was trying to express my enjoyment of her journey shown in just a couple scenes there.

[@zephyr835]

I still consider the throne-room scene right up there with those in the films. My favorite part of it is the buildup before the duel: the dialogue, the music, and the battle outside. It's tense yet kind of beautiful.

[@captaindc3889]

One of the greatest episodes in the Clone Wars

[@__potapiandris5743]

one of the greatest 20 minutes of Star Wars :D

[@juliangarcia5730]

This might be the best Clone Wars episode ever

[@chrischika7026]

No the last episode is

[@coleschubert9868]

In my opinion the next episode is the best. Shattered broke me

[@thetwilightgamer]

@@coleschubert9868 so, you could say it *shattered* you

[@sofilevi1377]

i'd say all three last episodes are incredible

[@OkIPullUp2915]

Nah

[@ahsokatano5866]

"Every choice you have made has Led you to this moment"

[@nerdvisions4625]

That’s my line

[@howto-jl7ky]

Man Dooku was so cool, too bad we didn’t get the dark disciples ark

[@chasecaldwell2335]

Really wish Dark Disciple could get fully animated in this newer CW/Bad Batch style

[@zaandarbrow]

8:23 effects artists be like: "yah look at that bitches!" XD

[@sillygoose7646]

Now we just need Sam Witwer and Ray Park dressed as Maul doing the Spider-Man pointing meme.

[@Moonstriker2514]

They do that forward horizontal jump, land and point with their lightsabers behind them

[@General_Arcturus506]

"Long have I waited for this moment"

[@Blackhand47XD]

Maul was like madman with giant sign predicting end of the world... and he was right!

[@SpiderBatFan]

19:08 ohhhh Past Eric, yes she really would be good as Bo in live-Acton....

[@Bdakkon]

Whats crazy here is that Maul wasn't lying. In his own twisted way he was always looking for a friend ever since his brother died. This theme continued thru Rebels when he constantly was trying to get Ezra to join him. Here everything he said was true but Asoka couldn't believe it.

[@cbeaudry4646]

Reminds me of Dooku's discussion with Kenobi on Geonosis

[@austinwilliams9167]

I think Ashoka could have changed Anakin’s turn, speaking on Rick’s point of if Obi-Wan and Padme not being able to. Differently than them, Ashoka knows and understands how deeply Anakin questions the order. And Anakin knows that, too.

[@emilylewis5373]

This. I also think he would listen to her as a middle ground. Listening to obi-wan and padme is like choosing sides, ashoka can play the middle more.

[@jeikusan4828]

Love how Eric is just in the corner of my screen fanboying so hard. XD

[@dangoodrich8870]

This is easily one of the best moments not just in Clone Wars, but I'm the whole franchise! And to what you guys were saying about the animation, I always thought it was good, but it only continued to get better as the series went along. They found ways to save money, while making the series look even better! And this final season was just amazing quality! This seems to be what we'll be getting for the Bad Batch! 😁 Also I have to add, Ahsoka to me is a top 5 character in all of Star Wars! Her development was just amazing!!

[@franciscooctavius5957]

If Maul ever comes back to the big screen, Sam Witwer better damn well voice the character. Without that Maul is nothing. The inflections of his voice not to mention the writing is absolutely fantastic. He is hands down one of the best characters in this series.

[@1dudecrush]

9:16 yupppp Ray Park doing mocap is unmistakable

[@MeliDMR93]

I find it really sad that Obi-Wan knew how much the mission to spy on Palpatine hurt Anakin; the novelisation of ep III expands on this more, but Obi-Wan is genuely shocked by the look on his eyes and Anakin retorting with "what if Palaptine asked me to spy on you?". He all but tells Windu and Yoda that he thinks they have shattered Anakin's trust on the Jedi. Furthermore, the scene that Padmé mentions to Anakin ("he came to visit this morning... he was worried about you") is shown. Obi-Wan is truly worried, he reminds us of how young Anakin is (23!!!!) and how much pressure he has been under, he admits to know they love each other but he doesn't care and feigns ignorence because she's the only one who makes him happy, and just wants her to talk to Anakin. Now we have Obi-Wan telling Ahsoka what he ALWAYS should've told Anakin: "the Council... is not always right". (It's quite humbling, as Obi-Wan IS part of it, but the movies never show this level of introspecion on his part). It's just sad to see how hard Obi-Wan tried, and how smart Palpatine was in that isolating Anakin from Obi-Wan, the Order and Padmé (+separated from Ahsoka) left him with someone very easy to manipulate.

[@chrisyancey89]

I really liked Palpatine's theme playing when Obi Wan mentions Anakin's secret mission to spy on Palpatine.

[@ANameToGoBy]

I've always thought the trinity of Padmé (his love), Obi Wan (his brother), and Ahsoka (his student), it would've been enough of a confrontation. Anakin's attachments, I believe, would've brought him back.

[@jamesshak3524]

Poor Rick..."We saw them when Maul was taking over." Eric and Aaron ignore him and, talk about exactly what Rick is talking about...

[@zaandarbrow]

The best saber duel in star wars !

[@planetbob6703]

As it was brought up again I really recommend the Son of Dathomir comic. Grievous is an absolute killing machine in it. He has to face an army of Mandalorians under a Sith Lord, knows his own forces are at a serious disadvantage and still wins. He later slaughters dozens of armed Mandalorians with his bare hands and gives one of my favorite Grievous quotes: "Those of you who can still stand (crushes a Mandalorian's skull) return to your masters and tell them to send more men to die!" It really showes him as a strategist and warrior and you can find the whole thing dubbed on youtube

[@BenAri18]

*We all going to burn, we all going to die* The way Sam witwer said that line, he honestly deserves an award for that scene alone there was such raw emotion put into that

[@ace360]

Ahhh So Epic Sam Witwer mix with Ray Park! Ashley mix with Lauren Mary Kim! No matter how many time's I watch it never gets old🎉👊👍

[@jakobnunez4964]

9:01 is where you can hear the exact same sound that sidious made when he twirled at mace windu and the other jedi masters.

[@thedarkknight2221]

This is not only my favorite lightsaber dual in Clone Was but one of my favorite duels in all of Star Wars. Up there with Anakin vs Obi-Wan, Yoda vs Palpatine, and Luke vs Vader (ROTJ). The cinematography, especially with the burning embers flying slowly down foreshadowing the end is near. The epic dialogue both before and during the fight. And the sense of finality that both the war for Mandalore and the Clone Wars themselves are finally over.

[@Bavarian_Lifting]

Ahsoka beating Maul makes no sense. She’s a 16 year old Padawan without a full education. Maul is one of the best duelists ever. People defend this saying „Maul wasn’t trying to kill her and didn’t go all out on her“. That is also nonsense, because Ahsoka wasn’t trying to kill him as well and even if that was the case he would still beat her even if he held back. I wouldn’t complain if she won this fight with help but she won single handedly. So that means Ahsoka is more powerful than Qui Gon and Obi Wan lmao. If shes that good she could challenge Palpatine at 22. Ah wait, she couldn’t, she got her ass kicked in Rebels

[@edwardarroyo884]

I mean it was more Maul beating himself since he got overconfident, like he did with Canan and Padiwan Kenobi, while some seem to think Kenobi actually beat Maul at that point he clearly didn't, it was Maul's overconfidence, plus Maul doesn't seem to care much anymore since he wanted Ashoka to kill him at the end. Filoni also mentioned this is Maul at his lowest due to everything that's going on, and even then he was clearly a better fighter than Ashoka as he disarmed her 3 times and could have just ended her with the force at the end.

[@theoneinthemiddle5553]

Ahsoka never beat Maul. He never wanted her dead. If he did, she would be dead. Maul holds back his power most of the time in this show and it really sucks. Hes just as powerful as Vader, and dave filoni really didnt give him the justice he deserves. Dave filoni created ahsoka so he didnt allow her to lose. I think Ahsoka is comparable to Rey in this episode. Shes just given this ridiculous amount of power for no reason other than to please the fans. Ahsoka is powerful, but shes never done anything major to prove that shes on the level of maul. She lost to ventress and bariss offee, both of which are far weaker than darth maul.

[@edwardarroyo884]

While I agree she is no where near Maul's level, Filoni talked about that he was at his worst here due to everything that was happening, while she was at her best, and even then he proved to be a better fighter he just got overconfident, which happens a lot unfortunately, also it's worth noting that he seems to want to die, at least a little, since he would rather have had Ashoka let him die than keep going, so I don't think he cared much at this point.

[@addictedtochocolate920]

Darth Maul during episode 1: A silent killing machine Darth Maul at the end of the clone Wars: An intellectual prophet uncovering conspiracies

[@planetbob6703]

This episode really shows how much Ahsoka has grown and how powerful she’s become but I still think Maul would have won if he hadn’t been distracted by his desire to die

[@akindumarasinghe131]

I mean he very easily could have won that but choose to approach Ahsoka in close range with the advantage of a lightsaber. Methinks a sprinkle of plot armour but its fine.

[@edwardarroyo884]

@@akindumarasinghe131 It's both, Filoni talked about how Maul was at his worst while she was at his best, he was distracted, and also still wanted her to help him so he wasn't even close to his usual level, normal Maul would be too much for her, hell he's significantly stronger than her force wise anyway, so if he really wanted he could have just force choked her, he does that to Kenobi with no effort, and destroys the Venator's hyperdrive, and it doesn't even seem like he's trying his hardest there. Plus the fact he lasted as long as he did against Sidious at the end of their fight shows how good he is, since even Sidious looks annoyed that Maul is keeping up as much as he is.

[@BMHorakhty]

When you realised that next week they will react to Clone Wars Season 7 Episode 11 and Rebels Season 1 episode 15 . I see what you did there.

[@Nerveroxis]

Well, they will be released at the same time. They filmed all there Clone Wars reactions before they started with the Rebels reactions.

[@BMHorakhty]

@@Nerveroxis Yes I know.

[@MikeHesk742]

I feel like 99% of Star Wars "what if" scenarios around Anakin falling to the dark side massively underestimate Palpatine to a comical level. As if changing one small thing would somehow unravel Palpatine's plan and make it so that he tells Anakin he's a Sith Lord but Anakin doesnt turn? The one thing you can be certain of in all of Star Wars is that Palpatine would *never* show his true colours to Anakin until he was confident Anakin was ready. We see in Clone Wars that he periodically tests the water with him, setting up situations that mirror what happens at the start of Episode 3 to see if the time has come. If Ahsoka were still around? Palpatine would have found a way to frame her or make her leave. If Qui Gon survived? Palpatine would have needed to drive a wedge between them or have him killed. If Anakin told Obi Wan about Padme? Palpatine would have done something about that too. I'll accept a lot of fun and speculation, but there's no alternate universe where Palpatine tells Anakin he's the Sith Lord and gets caught with his pants down. He'd simply choose a different moment or give up on Anakin all-together if he had to.

[@Blitzvonic]

It also doesn't help that the main point of Palpatine shaking Anakin, that being Anakin's distrust in the Jedi Order, is the real main reason Anakin willingly joins Palps. If there's anything that could have have prevented all of this, it would be making the order more likable for Anakin.

[@DavidBloodJohnson]

Anyone else notice that ahsoka has the spirit of the daughter, and Sam witwer voice the son (both the representatives of the dark and light sides)! Imagine how poetic it would be if they would have stopped sidious.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Ray Park, Lauren Marie Kim, Ashley Ekcstien, and Sam Witwer are ALL a win. Buckle up, things are about to get......tense

[@wolfpack_104]

Random star wars fan: How can a fight be any cooler than Rey and Kylo vs palpatine? Me: It seems the padawan needs one last lesson

[@spicysnowman8886]

I don't think anyone thought that cringe fest was cool

[@wolfpack_104]

@@spicysnowman8886 That's the joke. Only someone oblivious to star wars media outside the movies would think that it was.

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@wolfpack_104 if that was the first star movie someone saw I wouldn't blame them for not bothering to watch any of the others.

[@wolfpack_104]

@@spicysnowman8886 Same. It had no sense positioning, stance, or technique. They were just hacking swords at one another for the most part without any sense of form.

[@QuantumJuicE3]

Maul's movements in this fight has always enthralled me. The animation and movements are so good, I wish we could've seen fights like this throughout all the clone wars.

[@MeyaRoseGirl]

I know there are plenty of videos on youtube proposing super-edits of The Clone Wars finale arc together with Revenge of the Sith. I would recommend actually doing it. It's easiest to just jump back and forth on Disney+. I watched the first episode, then the first 30 minutes or so of RotS, (to Obi-Wan leaving Coruscant) then this episode, then another 30 minutes or so of RotS (past the Order 66 montage), then the 3rd episode, then finish RotS, then finish TCW. You can't make it perfectly line up. You end up having to go back to Order 66 because there's no way to have the RotS montage edited in with TCW, (and I could never interrupt the gorgeous music that way) but I still REALLY recommend doing it. It takes HOURS, but it makes a seriously good movie. I mean, I love RotS, but it's so micro-focused on Anakin (like how they deleted the Seeds of the Rebellion side story that actually gave Padme more of a role than just the weepy pregnant wife) that it's easy to forget that there really is a galaxy-wide war out there, so watching RotS and TCW together at the same time just makes it all feel so much more epic and impressive. Anakin and Palpatine are the center of RotS, but Ahsoka and Maul are their lost apprentices (which one is "The Phantom Apprentice"? Or is that title referring to Anakin?), so it's still feels very connected.

[@obiwankenobi3984]

Wait I’m confused have you already watched this?

[@edgarretana8377]

Hello blind wave crew! I leave to basic military training next Tuesday so unfortunately I won’t be able to watch the last two episodes of this arc from you guys :( I’m super excited to have a ton of rebels reactions to binge when I get back tho.

[@benstacy7]

I know everyone is, rightfully, excited about Ray Park motion capturing Maul in this episode. But can we also give credit to the amazing Lauren Mary Kim for her physical performance as Ahsoka as well?

[@nerdvisions4625]

I will reclaim Mandalore

[@Reece_Hart]

Obviously the Maul stuff this episode is possibly some of the best Star Wars period. But the one scene I really appreciate is the holo meeting with Obi Wan. The way he breaks the news that Anakin killed Dooku and the reaction from Ahsoka is perfect. It isn't this happy "Anakin's won a great victory for the Republic", it's a "Yeah Anakin just murdered this man in cold blood"

[@theawesomeman9821]

After watching this, I feel so sad how the light saber fights in episode 9, compares. However, we never saw Luke train Rey and Kylo with actual techniques, so the fact that episode 9 looks amaturish in comparison makes sense.

[@hashslingingslasher97]

Sam Witwer's voice acting was on another level in this episode

[@lawakua2249]

Ashoka is badass but she was blind as all Jedi were maul wasn’t lying but she was to attached to Anakin

[@Ashley_e]

oh gawd incant watch. get too emotional. the fact obi contacted Soka, to help with Ani, knowing she’d be the person who could reach inside of him the most - 😭😭😭😭

[@exactlyonesasquatch2572]

The keyframe lightsaber fights I still like even though they're different. Like the lightsaber battle between Sidious, Maul, and Savage looked INCREDIBLE even though it wasn't mo-cap. It looks different but I also love it.

[@ahsokatano5866]

"Sky..... Walker..."

[@nerdvisions4625]

He is the key... to everything.

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

5:37 | 🎶Darth Vader🎶

[@doctor8342]

Sam Witwer deserves an Emmy for these episodes, not for voice over, but for full on best actor in a drama!

[@alexandra9825]

btw have you ever seen Sam Witwer doing SW trivia? cause it's crazy how he literally knows everything

[@ColdBloodedProd]

I love watching Eric get so red and giddy rewatching this episode. This truly is the best clone wars episode. Just every scene, every moment, pure Star Wars bliss.

[@FishboyRice]

I love how Obi Wans face in the hologram is shrouded by darkness in this episode. It really sets the mood of this time in SW.

[@rev0568]

Honestly one of the best parts? Ahsoka is initially willing to help. The MOMENT he says Anakin is the key to the destruction of the balance? All bets are off, get fucked. Love it.

[@arliss123]

I love that Eric and Aaron can barely contain their excitement during the duel! :)

[@am-pm850]

I’ve noticed that Rick is always so nitpicky with everything in the show. I’ve been watching back a lot of these reactions and Rick always has a complaint in episodes, especially with the fighting, like of course motion capture gives a lot realism, but there have been amazing key frame animated fights. I just don’t understand why rick always has complaints about every episode, especially on the amazing episodes, theres always a complaint.

[@lachlansutherland7062]

Ray Park Mo cap there, I reckon the best lightsaber duel in the clone wars

[@__Sauron_]

Dude when maul is terrified as hell about something, you know something big is wrong

[@rhyanshelby6572]

You know it's good when the entire reaction is filled with excited nervous giggles

[@theawesomeman9821]

I know it's not popular but if you guys could review the High Republic books, I would appreciate it cause they retcon the heck out of Star Wars over the ways of the Jedi. I wanna see Eric and Aaron lose their cool over this alternative timeline!

[@mckdink]

See... I LOVE Maul, but this fight with Ahsoka once again shows that he hasn't learned his lesson from Episode 1... He had Ahsoka right where he could make the easiest final blow... he said "join me, or die"... she says "Never"... ALL MAUL HAD TO DO WAS TAKE HIS LIGHTSABER AND CHOP THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BEAM SHE'S BARELY STANDING ON... THATS LITERALLY ALL HE HAD TO DO ... But instead, he still swinging at her, chasing her to the very end of the beam

[@harrywright551]

This episode makes me sad and happy at the same time, one of the best pieces of Star Wars ever created

[@awesomecoolguy7541]

Before this arc, The Lawless was my favorite Clone Wars episode ever, but now that this arc happened, all 4 episodes are my new favorite. These 4 episodes are literally the best Star Wars content since Return of the Jedi. And The Phantom Apprentice is my favorite one of the arc. It's literally perfect with the characters, animation, emotion, music, action, and references.

[@TuskTheRipper96]

Maul has such daddy issues (Sidious) and I am LIVING for it!

[@EzioHanitore]

Lmao that whole ending fight scene was mocapped. And yes they got Ray Park back to play Maul 😂

[@MrLynamYT]

Hell yeah!

[@chessduncan1864]

Ray park himself Yess did it

[@wildkatarn7141]

11:11 "You're all going to BURN! We're all going to DIE!!!" Yeah...maybe they SHOULD have listened to Maul.

[@Vahki100]

Let's face it, the best duel in likely all of the Clone Wars and up there for one of my favourite SW duels of all time. The whole arc is just amazing. The dread you feel over the upcoming evil of the Empire. I also love the Dryden Vos moment and the Gar Saxon cameo.

[@JessChillN_]

Maul tried his hardest to save the galaxy out of fear of what anakin would become I feel like a lot of people forget if he doesn’t get beat by obi he’s becomes the strongest in the galaxy and more than likely kills sidious in probably less than a year

[@tzkzombie8620]

Can you guys react to hacksaw ridge (2016) (Directed by Mel Gibson) (Starring Andrew Garfield)

[@servio_]

This arc is the best in whole the clone wars. My favourite think about It is that It happens during Episode 3. It makes me feels so happy and sad at same time.

[@awesomeausman0422]

Definitely the best lightsaber duel of the entire show! Part 2 of The Seige of Mandalore was amazing! 2 more to go.

[@Ale23]

I would LOVE a What if... with Ahsoka and Maul teaming up.

[@theawesomeman9821]

I've been watching Chinese CGI animation on Tencent, and I have to say, most of the shows there are on par with the Clone Wars, in terms of story and animation!

[@Runo1923]

I've already hyped for THE finale. This final arc is so perfect that deserves to be called as a movie. It gives you so much things and never skips Star Wars rules (except for the final trilogy 😒). I like Dave Filoni and his view to Star Wars.

[@cisarvitiate]

This duel is amazing but it’s not my TOP 3 lightsaber duels, but if the entire series was in this gorgeous animation it would be so much better (even if they would reanimate the entire series and the movie in this stunning style I would watch it all day).

[@mr.l8723]

Maul knew this fight was pointless, knowing what his former master was about to do

[@pance_9912]

Who else is DYING for them to react to Dark?

[@NobleGuardianW]

They should redo a few of the standout fights in the clone wars with mo-capped animation

[@spikedpsycho2383]

I say every outlandish lightsaber duel is like Peter and the Giant Chicken, the catastrophic damage they do just fighting

[@grammeland1]

Maul was litteraly the only one who could see the truth while always being blinded by rage, really shows you how blind the Jedi were

[@jamesfoster9613]

Ahsoka's mo cap was also the stunt fighter for the Armorer for Mando season 1 among others