STAR WARS the hidden complexities of C3PO (character analysis) Part One

[@Joe-qq8ox]

An 80 minute video on fuckin C3PO. This is why I love Rob Ager.

[@TokyoXtreme]

@ThisIsNotReel Looking forward to the next two installments of this trilogy.

[@gavhenrad]

😂😂

[@swordierre9341]

@@TokyoXtreme in before its a 9 parter

[@racewiththefalcons1]

The dirty look of the first Star Wars film is so refreshing when everything in the new atrocities looks perfect beyond reality, like watching a video game.

[@collativelearning]

Still looks incredible today.

[@orbaitv5991]

Normal people: Hey this movie looks very nice beautiful Star wars fans: How dare they make a good looking movie

[@linkthepig4219]

The entire OT handled presentation and atmosphere the best in almost all of live-action cinema imo. The rusty innards of a Jawa Sandcrawler, the drunken criminal cantina in Mos Eisley, the cold, unforgiving Hoth base, the tribal forests of the Endor moon, the creepy dungeons of Jabba's Palace, the exotic and unsettling Throne Room of Jabba's, the mechanical tension of Bespin... it's all handled amazingly.

[@pvanukoff]

"like watching a video game" -- the feeling I get when watching nearly any contemporary sci-fi/fantasy film.

[@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL]

As a kid, my hope for the sequels was more exploration of those dirty, seemingly random environments. I was brutally disappointed when I found out it would be family melodrama.

[@Tjp7624]

George Lucas to Anthony Daniels: you are going to play a funny robot Collative Learning:

[@punkfacexo6066]

"Hold my tea cup"

[@boblob3509]

😂

[@BEATmyguest31]

Hold my 2nd breakfast

[@leiram8833]

Well, all humor comes from tragedy, after all.

[@Voicedude]

...tho' it was originally supposed to be voiced by Stan Freberg.

[@theweebzoid9714]

My man really just made an hour and a half analysis on C - 3PO. Mad respect.

[@raheemjonez2024]

#iwatcheditall

[@staysafeoutthere6704]

The thing I loved about C-3PO and R2D2's relationship they were like an old married couple always bickering with one another but still having a great fondness for one another too!

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

In reality, Star Wars was a buddy comedy with the war between the Rebels and the Empire being the b plot

[@staysafeoutthere6704]

@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Agreed 👍🏼

[@hemotheperson]

They were both children of Anakin Skywalker.

[@henkdachief]

its a reflection of the modern gay marriage

[@hemotheperson]

Lolololol

[@illyth63]

After majoring in Classics in college, I started to realize that the droids, and 3PO in particular, are successors to the stock slave characters from comedic plays from the Hellenistic and Roman periods. These characters tended either to be either clever or idiots, and their actions were usually in support of the young handsome sons of their owners, often in farcical romantic schemes. 3PO's role as an effete translator seems to mark him as something like the educated Greek slaves who were often caricatured in Roman art and literature.

[@davidlean1060]

I studied Ancinet Greek drama and in fairness, almost all hollywood movies can be traced back to Greek theater. Two rather obvious reasons. Firstly, their formula worked and secondly, lots of examples have been preserved. Lucas just used his head and borrowed from a dozen or so old story telling traditions.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

Greek theatrical archetypes... yup... nailed it guys ❤

[@davidlean1060]

@@unbearifiedbear1885 Did you know the authors used to have 'rap battles' with one another too? One guy would mock another through his work, only to have that chap answer back in his next play.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

Or the "clown" characters of Elizabethan theatre. I can just about imagine Artoo and Threepio arguing over what professional builds the strongest houses.

[@miab-p6874]

Wow, that's fascinating!

[@gentlemanbrain5829]

Me: sandcrawler You: sandcrawler Everyone: sandcrawler Collective learning: J A W A T R U C K

[@Tracer_Krieg]

I got a serious laugh when he said that.

[@collativelearning]

It's been a good 35 years since I played with Star Wars toys, so these days I tend to just go with what's said in the movie :)

[@svrsl3749]

Me: Collative You: Collative Everyone: Collative Barend Faber: C O L L E C T I V E

[@gentlemanbrain5829]

@@svrsl3749 That's literally what I typed. ☺

[@svrsl3749]

@@gentlemanbrain5829 haha

[@AllenAndrews]

Anthony Daniels: Finally, my day has come.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Yeah I don't remember him making the interview circuit when Star Wars blew up.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 They excluded him intentionally, apparently excerpt from a BBC article: _C3PO actor Anthony Daniels has told BBC Radio 5 Live that not being included in publicity for the original Star Wars film left him feeling "rejected, redacted and ignored"._ _Speaking to Jamie Stangroom, he said "mystery men" behind the original Star Wars film wanted to maintain an illusion that C3PO was "a real automaton. That he was an advanced piece of electronics, magically created by the studios and the production."_ _The studio went so far as to not include Daniels' name on the original poster, which he said left him feeling inferior to co-stars Carrie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Sir Alec Guinness._

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 for the record, I've also heard he's a bit arrogant and hard to work with; but *everything* is bs on _some_ level, especially where Hollyweird is concerned.. and I don't know the guy, so hey..

[@markbarrett4440]

@@unbearifiedbear1885 Apparently he was most condescending and rude to Kenny Baker R.I.P. throughout the shoot, rather fitting for C3PO but still no excuse for being too much of a 'thespian' with delusions of grandeur.

[@bloodrunsclear]

The Hidden Fortress is directly referenced in the first film! The haughty imperial officer before he is choked by Vader snarls ‘...nor given you clairvoyance to find the rebel’s HIDDEN FORT...’ And that’s as far as he gets before Vader strangles him.

[@collativelearning]

Wow, I remember it vividly, but never consi ... cough cough. Good find!

[@jocaerbannog9052]

Holy f***, that went over my head. Last watched the trilogy a few months back. Awesome :)

[@almitrahopkins1873]

@@collativelearning Hidden Fortress is also set during the Sengoku Jeddai, the period of Medieval Japanese history before the Tokugawa Shogunate.

[@BoeBins]

Vader made sure to prevent any copyright infringement

[@viktoriabentham8664]

I remember the first time I watching the original star wars trilogy with my younger sister when she was about 3/4 and I was about 9/10 and she began the first part of the first film being so concerned about C3PO and R2 that she quietly cried in places, like when R2 is alone and it's getting dark and he makes the sad bleepy noises. I remember her just looking really worried about them while they were in the desert, gasping when she saw the skeleton in the sand. So I agree with your point that children empathize a lot with these droid characters. Really interesting.

[@samtheweebo]

C3PO is kind of an everyman so to speak, very human in his decisions and responses. Wants to avoid danger and improve his own circumstances but is still wanting to help out if the risk is low. He is involved not by choice but by circumstances more or less and just wants to make it out alive.

[@MoselleGreen]

This isn't just analysis of C3PO, it's an exploration of the entire droid mythos of Star Wars, how they work.

[@Defender78]

11:15 what does C3p0 do? he states in the opening minutes that he operated and tended to machinery and binary load lifters, and that he speaks 6,000,000 languages. However, we never actually see 3P0 operate a vehicle or device.. not that I can recall?? It is R2D2 who can open doors and access mainframes, and also plays video and holds lightsabers in his chassis. All 3P0 does is walk around and give suggestions. But does he drive or pilot a vehicle, maybe I'm missing something. Basically 3P0 does SQUAT!

[@SolidPain6624]

Never thought I needed this video but it’s here! Rarely ever put that much thought into C3PO so I’m interested to watch!

[@davidkidd4106]

Awesome! Ager and Star Wars is like when maple syrup collides with ham.

[@RockySamson]

*smack*

[@BatDevilSpawn]

Would love to see Ager tackle Twin Peaks. Quite a project that would be.

[@_scabs6669]

C3PO saying "Will this never end?" No, C3PO. Nearly 50 years later and no sign of slowing down. What a curiously prophetic line

[@ardentfire3956]

Alternate Title: "Michael Biehn's long lost English brother makes a movie length analysis of a neurotic protocol droid." All jokes aside this is a fantastic video, really great work.

[@collativelearning]

Good old Michael Biehn, one of my fave actors who should have been a bigger star.

[@MoselleGreen]

"The bedside lamp is making an escape." LOL

[@collativelearning]

Yay, someone laughed at that :)

[@taiya001]

Wonder where it wound up? Lol

[@jmferris1138]

i thought maybe it was doing one of the last few "cleanup" tasks (whatever those might be on a moisture farm on Tatooine) before turning in safely for the night and Uncle Owen is "shutting the power down". Great job on the video Rob! :)

[@Spaceplant109]

You can tell Rob had a lot of fun making this one

[@riftvallance2087]

I always thought 3p0's line about not being a good storyteller wasn't a deliberate lie but used later in the scene with the ewoks to show how much he has grown and changed during the adventure. That he was now more confident and self possessed, a true completion of his story arch.

[@LostCosmonauts]

"I do believe they think I am some sort of god."

[@henkdachief]

"...the golden god! i am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!"

[@jocaerbannog9052]

"It's against my programming to impersonate a deity"... I can imagine him smiling underneath, though.

[@janocronismo]

One of the best lines of 3PO in all 9 movies.

[@Firguy_the_Foot_Fetishist]

@@janocronismo The real best one was "Oh, they fly now!"

[@edinscot56789]

@@jocaerbannog9052 Proper?

[@stevenanderson898]

This'll pass the next hour and twenty two minutes very nicely.

[@studionomad6206]

I don't even like star wars, I just like this channel.

[@seanbarker9272]

Same lol

[@purpleshores]

his voice helps put me to sleep

[@MagusMarquillin]

@The Clown Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[@yurihageshi8008]

@@MagusMarquillin no matter how valid the critiques are.

[@linkthepig4219]

@Lando Actually I'd say TLJ is the only tolerable movie. TFA was just ANH again with worse writing. At least TLJ had characters with arcs and did something new.

[@mirzaghalib8659]

Bout 45 minutes into this one and I am digging it very much... loved hearing how 3po symbolizes (or can , maybe) Luke's negative feels like fear or worry and maybe even death during the mission. Great stuff. Appreciate it

[@ashkuigp]

I know that he says in video that he won’t dig into prequels. But all those parallels to childlike nature of 3po is screams of the fact that 3po was created and programmed by scared, revengeful and angry child who is to be denied emotions by training and lately convinced to become embodiment of fear and anger.

[@xo4812]

THE HIDDEN COMPLEXITIES OF C3PO.... The title alone made my day.

[@taiya001]

I always loved C-3PO because he genuinely cares about people safety and just wants to do the right thing. Sometimes you need a fraidy-cat in the bunch in order to remain focused on the dangers ahead.

[@GiantBoarMonster]

Incredible analysis! I use to think C3PO having been created by young Anakin was a totally lame idea but now I can appreciate it more in light of this video revealing C3PO to be a representation of the hero's fear and anxiety. Makes sense that C3PO's personality was custom designed by a gifted but emotionally immature kid rather than say, using a factory preset. Other droids in the movies seem to be on basic factory presets that emphasize utility over quirks and eccentricities.

[@O1OO1O1]

Also explains his personality. A kid would want an interesting friend, not just a boring protocol droid. He's also used to looking after Anakin and keeping him, a child, safe, since Anakin didn't have a father.

[@1who4me]

No. Anakin making 3PO is dumb. Full stop. End of story. Really lazy storytelling by Lucas.

[@realceal9650]

@@1who4me While it may be the end of the story for you, those of us who are less pretentious are more interested in having a discussion rather than shutting one down. Though I still believe having Anakin create 3PO was the wrong choice, OP's comment made me see it in a new light, and appreciate that choice more than I did previously. You can still recognize the positives of a decision even if you ultimately disagree with it.

[@rdelaselva8990]

"Oh, Thank the Maker!"

[@DVincentW]

"... this oil bath is going to feel soo good!"

[@chrisricks6363]

Never tell me the odds

[@indianastones6032]

depending on how hes feeling at that exact moment does he praise the lightside maker, anakin? or the darkside maker, darth vader?

[@docbones213]

Bless The Maker and his Water.. May his passing cleanse the universe.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

@@indianastones6032 interesting question..

[@giornojoestar4411]

Never will I look at C-3PO the same. Thanks for this amazing deep dive into our favorite glittering goofball

[@timewarpdrive77]

C-3po has always been gold; his design is drawn heavily from the 1927 film metropolis

[@davydevilution3483]

"I suggest a new strategy, Artoo : let the Wookie win" - C3PO

[@ryates16]

I love that all the clips you used are from the original unaltered version of Star Wars and not the special editions.

[@collativelearning]

Finally, somebody noticed !!! Cheers

[@jocaerbannog9052]

Might be Harmy's Despecialised Edition, I got a copy of those. Bit pixelated in places, especially in early Tattooine scenes, but they are good overall. The original edition has its weak spots (especially the wide shots of Ben Kenobi deactivating the generator), but much prefer the originals generally. My favourite additions of special editions are the new shots in the ice cave scene with that carnivorous beast, and reinserting the deleted scene of that green slave girl reacting in terror before she gets eaten alive by Jabba's giant pet. Good horror moments. If the studios allow a wide Star Wars fan event where they all vote their editing choices for a new hybrid edition, it would be a killer.

[@Karemaker]

Commenting to remind myself to listen to this at work tomorrow. I love Rob Ager's work.

[@tomober2889]

I don’t know why Anthony Daniels gets a bad rap - he was such a kind, friendly person when I was lucky enough to meet him!

[@lucasoheyze4597]

The answers right there- you fed his ego.

[@maxhammer4067]

@@lucasoheyze4597 But he is the greatest actor of our time

[@thursoberwick1948]

He's probably a great guy, but the character is irritating. Like sand, one might say.

[@JD.78]

Great video, the depth of C3-PO's chatacter traits and mentality is quite astounding once you realise their influence on each scene, and the film overall.

[@tekhnoir]

I remember seeing in 77 a promotional report in spanish TV in which 3PO said "We are not two robots, we are one robot." I think the initial proposal was that R2 was the technical part, which did more robot-like tasks, and 3PO was his interface with humans. So it seemed like a fascinating concept to me but I never heard of it again.

[@MoselleGreen]

The "JOKE" thing cracked me up every time.

[@ShaunHensley]

3PO is a protocol droid, built for service of a delegate or ambassador. Seen in this light, the extreme sensitivity and aversion to violence makes complete sense

[@collativelearning]

Yes, though they made him over-sensitive to the point of being unfit for purpose. Unless we consider him to have a personality of his own :)

[@serotoninsyndrome]

Never thought there would be this many layers to peel back on someone like C3PO, but this is why I love this channel...

[@Veldtian1]

This blew my mind, thanks mate.

[@LuvWatches]

Nice video as always. I would say that the visual cue of the medal is not incidental at all. The solar plexus chakra (wheel) in Hindu / Yogic teachings is the one that needs to be opened to overcome fear. It is the third major one in the body, from the bottom and therefore symbolically yellow after the colors of the rainbow. The heart Chakra is next and is green, representing the power to enact and control your will. In the next film Luke spends most of his time with a little green master. At the end of the film he fails by falling back into fear, but returns triumphantly in the third, armed with a green bladed light saber.

[@legitimatelemons]

Brilliant, I've always wanted to see your take on some Star Wars original trilogy themes!

[@mytruepower2]

I always considered "human cyborg relations" to be C3PO's job title; that he was in charge of serving as an interpreter in diplomatic relations between humanity, and some cybernetic life-forms, which we still haven't seen ourselves, but which are part of the larger Star Wars universe. It's more of a guess than anything, but it's the best sense I can make of that remark.

[@DanielHuman1996]

I love the doppelganger analysis. C3PO is Luke's shadow.

[@jeenkzk5919]

So many things you brought up I’ve never thought! I’ve seen it hundreds of times too. Hopefully you’ll do more characters! Extra kudos for using original release footage.

[@collativelearning]

Theatrical cut rules.

[@Heronfire]

Brilliant Rob. The archaeological understanding you bring to films; makes them an heirloom of thinking. Thank you for making sense of ; nearly everything.

[@sayntfuu]

Damn you people are quick. I am so glad I just made dinner and can sit here and veg out to some of the best content on KZbin. Edit after finishing: You never disappoint sir. Thank you again.

[@gp4236]

A new Rob Ager video and it’s as long as a movie, what an unexpected gift!!

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

6:24 I believe that's Robot Speak for, "f*** off"

[@DallasCrane]

It’s Huttese but yes

[@riftvallance2087]

@@DallasCrane isn't everything in f Huttese f-off

[@509Gman]

Sir Humphrey from “Yes, Minister” is what I imagine C3PO would be like if he had a little menace to him.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

😂

[@jocaerbannog9052]

But Baldrick always have cunning plans ;) Re: Blackadder was a servant at one point, quite similar to 3PO in some ways.

[@donweatherwax9318]

Somehow I never once thought of Threepio as bearing even the slightest resemblance to Sir Humphrey ... & now I can't "unsee" it!

[@oblivious108]

You know, Rob, I gotta say your humor is something that I'm starting to appreciate.

[@collativelearning]

Glad it's catching on with someone :)

[@oblivious108]

@@collativelearning One thing that I wanted to say that was very interesting that you pointed out was that one scene where C3P0 requested to be shut down temporarily when Luke gets his lightsaber. I didnt think about it that much but upon seeing that recently, I've always wondered what purpose did that serve in the story or the writing of the scene. But now that makes a bit of sense, so thank you for your interpretation. 👍

[@collativelearning]

@@oblivious108 Was quite pleased with that little discovery. It's surprising how much of C3PO's intricacy is slipped under the radar.

[@jujuplayboy]

C3PO is actually as smart/witful as R2D2 in Ep. IV in my opinion. And they were both comic reliefs. It changed movie after movie, R2D2 getting all the wit while C3PO got all the comedic characterization.

[@markhenderson6389]

One of your best videos yet. Thoughtful, insightful and very entertaining (even with a few bad jokes thrown in). Well done!

[@ohmhasmeaning7292]

I like the hypothesis about the numbers in R2D2 & C3P0 representing the Ages 2 & 3 based on movement, but I'd also add they could stand for the ages 22 & 30, as the beginning and ending of young adulthood. Rd is 22 he's hopeful and energetic. Cp is 30 he's just starting to get stiff and consider his mortality.

[@wilburjones4084]

Thanks Rob, another freebie, a long one too, quantity and quality. Looking forward to part 2, this one went by so fast.

[@janethayes5941]

Never seen any Star Wars films. Not one. But you make me want to see any film you cover.

[@enochianwolf]

I'm enjoying the increased jokes per minutes, Rob. Keep up the good work. Laughed out loud at "Ghettoblaster"

[@alexandermckay9521]

All I can think about is how much C3PO’s actor would love this video haha. He’s very proud of his role.

[@vanDaalstad]

after learning of the Kurisawa inspirations for star Wars i learned to see the first movie and C3PO's role in it in a whole different light. in a New Hope is he the perfect example of an expendable slave/servant who is painfully aware of his expendable nature and works to manipulate every situation he is in to keep himself alive. it is a very believable goal for a Droid.

[@misterbobby8913]

Fantastic Point 🏆

[@thejellokats8338]

What a great analysis. Very thought-provoking, and delivered with a wonderful sense of humour. Rob Ager is a total legend.

[@chadjonesvii9369]

The silver leg was used to carry a bomb, in the book, but I'm not sure if it was to carry the bomb or because it blew his leg off.. BUT I NEVER remember seeing ANYTHING but gold all over EVERY part of C-3POs body until around 5 years ago. And I owned the original C-3PO action figure and I'm 100% sure it was gold all over. Some say it's a Mandela effect, I agree 100%.🤔

[@Kneenibble]

Schizophrenia must be hard on you.

[@Oh6Torch]

Always knew I loved him. Thanks for letting me know why.

[@robfl100]

You should do a greatest screen villains video about Grand Moff Tarkin. Totally underrated villain

[@nandoflorestan]

This was awesome, thanks!

[@jothishprabu8]

Please make a video on "The Prestige" Rob

[@alejandrovasquez8527]

Great analysis, as usual. Amazing how I can see so many breakdowns of Star Wars and still learn something new. Also, as someone who's been watching your work for years, I'm pleased to get a bigger glimpse of your sense of humor throughout the video!

[@FranzFerdinand76]

Small note on the Jawa cremation scene, I always assumed it was R2 that was generating the flames.

[@chrissawyer1484]

Hmmm, this definitely explains why R2-D2 and C-3PO were my favorite Star Wars characters when I was a young kid. They were also my first two figures I received as well.

[@MadGeorgeProductions]

Only original cut clips, no special edition. Good lad.

[@michaelaradas1343]

According to JW Rinzler's The Making of Star Wars R2D2 came from a label on a dialog reel case--reel 2, dialog 2--which was abbreviated R2D2. The book is well-researched.

[@xXNP4CNuclearXx]

Holy shit a whole hour of KZbin available content? Better get comfy for this.

[@collativelearning]

A whole one hour and 22 mins ... this is why I haven't posted much in a while. Lots of editing :)

[@adejareojo]

@@collativelearning I just finished watching Prometheus(2012-Ridley Scott)right here on youtube. Interested in making video analysis of David , Walter(Convenant-2017) and Mother(Raised by Wolves)™🎥🎬🎫📝🔍📑📖🆔

[@patrickwentzell4638]

@@collativelearning droids are useful humorous at times they serve many purposes to heroes and villains. but how many people want to have androids in their house for real. keep in mind that not ever person needs or cares to have them in houses I believe people enjoy cats and dogs a lot more. however I'm sure droids can serve as protectors like security guards. in Batman Return to Arkham City we see robots fighting against Batman. Rahz Alghoul had intentions to rid Gotham City of not only police and all law authority personnel but claim dominance over that city. choosing who is worthy to be allowed into his own paradise existence. Data wanted to be human and to understand humans a lot more even had an emotion chip installed. C--3PO might be considered human like but imitating emotions might not be a good thing when missions are involved. people really don't care about droids just that they work perfectly. In the Matrix second movie Neo is told no one cares about how machines work as long as they actually do work. because people do rely on machines and robots for many different things. if society wanted to human beings could abolish technology forever get rid of every device ever made. but then course no more vehicles, television, radio, hospitals, video games, movies, I think about what if in history that Thomas Eddison didn't make the discovery of electricity. perhaps some one else would have no sure if and how that could actually happened. I also wonder how Robot androids see the world in the sensors built in. no person worries about Terminators and Robo Cops turning on us behaving against programming. a reason why those Nova Robots like Johnny Five was discontinued for one very good reason. machines and robots do not have privileges at all only people do. let's suppose android robot armies are made now of course we have these Cylons that people hate so much. " get the hell out of my house you stupid filthy murdering Cylon mimicking horrible son of bitch!!!!!!!!" Battlestar Galactica human race are no ones friends the training is harsh so people will hate enough to follow orders and destroy those Cylons. any person would hate Cylons and commanding officers that push the emotional responses on humans. In Farscape Peacekeepers are much like the evil galactic Empire in many ways. you know that Craise one had been in command til Scopious took over. In the Lexx series these robot head droids created by the divine order had a purpose to serve his shadows forces. Kia last of the Brunen Gee was like the Terminator one thousand and then of course Mantrid having little one arm drones flying around in space. yes the Lexx a bug ship also robotic and alive able to blow up planets just like the Death Star is able to do. machines able to keep people alive while other machines come to kill people sent by the Matrix. the empire could make slaves out of human life forms and alien species. but since people have free will one for instance is Ben Richard's an unwilling guest on The Running Man. we seen a future time when some guy Douglas Quade discovers his memory was replaced yet hours later will have Total Recall of who he was like. imagine machines giving people new memory that did happen with Spikes own father because of Megatron. the Decepticons want to steal energy and Autobots fight against them. V the final battle series had lizard people blending in with humans on earth. Vader part machine this didn't stop him from hunting down and killing other Jedi scattered across the galaxy hiding. there was conflict of emotions that were in Vaders mind. his feelings in struggle if the spirit of a Jedi wanted to could guide Vader back to the light side. of course robots only follow program but humans with robotic organs can probably reject orders. now suppose that a Jedi was turned into one of the Borge collective. would a Jedi be able to reject whatever the Borge does? and the Five Nights At Freddy's restaurant animatronics have spirits inside those robotic animal things. even though animatronics commit murders the children might have conflicting emotions about killing. or they have decided that adults must all be punished for what the purple man himself has done to children. if 3PO was reprogrammed he would blast rebels without delays. 3PO : " you are all rebel enemies of the new order and must be destroyed." In Force Awakens we see old droids that had been used before. it seems they have been discarded rather than upgraded and repaired which is kind of sad if you think about it. where do these droids go thousands of years from now down the road?

[@say1716]

I like Rob when he's having fun! Great video. Thanks for teaching me more about C3PO than I ever learned watching this movie since I was a child

[@THX11458]

One small correction I thought I mention here. R5-D4 was not a name given by George Lucas or anyone who created the original movie. I believe if you go through original script and concept art in the first Star Wars film all of the cylindrical type droids were simply known as "R2-units" ( in fact Luke refers to "R5D4" as an R2 unit). None of these R2 droids had individual names other than R2-D2. These other types of R2-units, like R5-D4, were given names by Kenner Toys after the film was released when they had to come up with some way of individuating one from another in order to sell them as merchandise.

[@SamSaxtonArt]

1:17:17 That's cause that shot was edited in. Originally it was in the opening scene. So this seems to mean that 3PO was originally intended to grow as a person significantly throughout the film (yet another way that he is unlike a robot) but then they decided in post to keep him static.

[@ajmittendorf]

Regarding his eyes, I notice three distinct points of light in each eye. In human characters, there is a name for the light reflecting off the actor's eyes. But with Galadriel in the LOTR trilogy, she was also given three distinct shiny points in her eyes. Peter Jackson made quite a row about them, as I recall. They suggest life, those lights, and for Galadriel, a certain mysticism. I wonder if that also works for a golden droid.

[@davidlean1060]

3 is also a 'magic' number. The best jokes have 3 parts (Paddy English man, Paddy Scots man and Paddy Irish man all walk in to a bar). When learning how to speak in public, you are taught about the rule of 3. There's the famous 3 chord trick, upon which so many popular songs are based. We identify with things coming in 3s for some reason. I'm sure a psychologist would have a reason why and it probably goes back to when we were primates living in the trees!

[@ajmittendorf]

@@davidlean1060 I don't believe in evolution, but I still see your point. The rule of three is also a huge component in writing stories and music. A very good point.

[@trevillyan5515]

Wow, this is an incredible video. I loved it all

[@hardtfelt]

I never interpreted C3PO as preparing to 'abandon' R2D2 for safety, when Uncle Owen had just bought him. When the Jawa activates the restraining bolt on R2, 3PO has a kind of 'shrug' movement that always signified to me that he couldn't do anything about it, this was his 'lot in life' (a great line) - to be purchased as a thing and separated from friends and that's that. It always seemed a little pitiful to me, and that was why he was so happy to suggest that they buy R2 instead.

[@CSanykdotCom]

~59:00 C-3PO despises jawas because the way they treat droids. It's not a contradiction or bad script writing. They literally scavenge parts off of living droids, and don't respect the droid's autonomy (such as it is) or even the property rights of the rightful owners. Jawas often steal when they can't salvage from wrecks, and sell back to the rightful owner, even parting out and returning the parts in poorer condition than when they scavenged them. He helps with cremating the dead Jawas because he's helping his human masters with a task that they decided to take on, to show their humanity and decency to give them a proper burial.

[@AtlasGeneticist]

If you really wanted to you could definetly look at the holiday special since all the original folks who worked on the original trilogy worked on that :P

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

At the very least, the animated segment is worth commenting on

[@AlohaBlade]

“Life Day”

[@magonus195]

Rob, I think this is one of your best videos to date. A lot to ruminate on. Nobody else would do a deep dive on what is ostensibly a joke character.

[@DuramaxL5P]

This is going to be good!

[@brovold72]

Wasn't it fantastic? Great, great stuff. C3PO was always my least favorite character of "the trilogy", but now I realize the story needs him--and therefor so do I.

[@DuramaxL5P]

@@brovold72 yes it was very good! I always enjoy Rob's content

[@jonnyleeg4058]

Excellent video, as usual. Thanks for this long format vid for free. Greatly appreciated 🙏🏽 Also, JOKE!!!!... brilliant.

[@elasmojones]

I suppose C-3PO is visually like the Tin man...but his personality is more like the Cowardly Lion.

[@truefilm6991]

Yes, thought the same. Perhaps C-3PO is more of a spoiled upper class neurotic chatterbox and sometimes arrogant, but very likeable because - as Rob states - there is a C-3PO in all of us.

[@thomasc2680]

My mind be expanding with every one of your vids, sir. Much love

[@MrPokemon248]

I read once that C-3PO was going to be the one to fire the final shot blowing up the death star and that this was changed late in production. Might explain some of why he is such a well fleshed out character. Other then just great writting.

[@Derl30]

You've got to do a part 2 sometime. This was some of your most eye-opening work, and very well made.

[@seanblake2]

pretty sure he did, you just gotta purchase it

[@chrisrus1965]

Somebody send this link to Anthony Daniels.

[@AlohaBlade]

I’m not sure he’s receiving messages from this dimension these days.

[@AlohaBlade]

Dude sorry I totally Mandella’d that one! Sorry!

[@leiram8833]

I think Anthony Daniels has said before that he doesn't really understand anything about Star Wars, but he still likes 3PO as a character.

[@argyleeuphoria6200]

Just another fantastic analysis. So much fun to watch.

[@seanbarker9272]

I noticed when Han meets C3P0 he's cleaning his dirty oily hands with a rag as he gets stuck in, whereas C3P0 is shiney fresh from his oil bath, good contrast between the two

[@Slechy_Lesh]

Good catch

[@gabriellavalentine17]

Great Job on this Star Wars analysis 👏 Collative Learning. I had a fun time watching this!

[@spijkerpoes]

I see a similarity between C3PO and bilbo baggins - not wanting adventures and such, getting them anyway. And I question who was first in his style of smart grumpy pessimistic droids: C3PO or Melvin from Douglas Adams. Both originate from the late 70ties?

[@ace100hyper3]

This video was actually brilliant. C3PO is a metaphoric boy which must be overcome as part of the Hero's Journey so that the main character can become a man. He also serves as slight comedic relief, and as the character that reads the situation until Luke gets center stage.

[@jeffreymalinowski4091]

If C3PO was trying to convince Chewie to stay while Luke was trying to convince Han to stay... perhaps Chewie convinced Han to turn around?

[@collativelearning]

Great point. If I remember rightly chewy says something to Han after Luke walks away, pissed off, and Han responds defensively. you may well be right.

[@loamguitar]

with regards to 40:57, I believe he is saying "I am C3PO: Human/Cyborg Relations" Implying that his name is C3PO and his job title is that of an ombudsman between humans and cyborgs. Not implying that he IS a "human cyborg relations" (whatever that means)

[@zebulon220]

I didn't see the story telling in return of the Jedi as c3po lying in star wars. But emblematic that he had grown as a person throughout the trilogy.

[@scolioreset]

Oh my! Outstanding work here! You were mentioning how Artoo is more the adventurer, and I know it's a C-3PO analysis, and you're completely right: he's the one joining Luke in the climax. And the lack of comments from 3PO, much like the sequences earlier in the film, allow the negative emotions to be expressed by the humans as they're eventually shot down by the Empire, one by one. And since 3PO evolved through the movie, the same is obvious for Luke who made the same progress. Luke trusts in the Force as much as 3PO began to finally trust his "friend". Something I love is whe Luke is hit by the Force drone (or the training probe), 3PO and Chewie do react. 3PO doesn't voice any concern as Han laughs: Lucas made a deliberate attempt, once again, to make us believe in the Force. The second Luke succeeds in parrying the shots without the ability to see (far from the fencing style), Lucas lets the positive emotions take control. I could say the same when Obi-Wan feels the destruction of the planet and 3PO is in complete denial (much like with the message) as he's focused on the game. I also love how he calmly walks away from the Stormtrooper after lying about going to maintenance with Artoo despite having an Imperial comlink. Nervous movements and articulations are so often associated to 3PO and yet he's shown he can be in complete control when the situation is dire. It is unfortunately the only time it happens in the entire trilogy. For all the sequences he says "Oh my!", I can't help but laugh everytime I watch RotJ when he mentions it's against his programming to impersonate a deity.

[@cinemansan8246]

Regarding C-3PO's design, I was surprised not to hear a mentioning of Metropolis (1927), which was (obviously) the big influence or inspiration if you will. Or did I miss something somewhere?

[@Concreteowl]

I always thought it frustrating and sad that Threepio, a slave, is constantly belittled and even switched off by our heroes and yet when reactivated after being shot his first thought is to warn them.

[@matthausrex5973]

Does the silver leg imply a "Long John Silver" aspect to C3-PO I wonder?

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

That is a comment worthy of this channel, dude.. I almost read it in Robs voice 😂😘

[@trevorjonathan4405]

I was thinking it’s fr33m@s0nic symbol/wink towards their intended Android Transhumnist future www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/could-capitalism-need-some-marxism-to-survive-the-4th-industrial-revolution/

[@davidlean1060]

@@trevorjonathan4405 Lucas was most certainly anti establishment. THX1138 is one of the great dystopian movies from the 70's and Star Wars is basically about fighting a fascist regime, so I don't buy this at all.

[@trevorjonathan4405]

@@davidlean1060 Google image search George Lucas Jordan Maxwell Bob Eisner. George Lucas is very intelligent in the way he layered his films. Symbology is everywhere, if you know how to look

[@davidlean1060]

@@trevorjonathan4405 I don't doubt that one bit. What I doubt is that Lucas was under some sort of order to make a film that gave the thumbs up to transhumanism, so to speak.

[@jerryblainii1208]

Really appreciate your takes and in depth videos. Respect

[@konstantinkoverchenko9587]

Given the events of the prequel, C3-P0’s programming definitely reflects his maker Anikan. Geez, Anakin had issues. •_•

[@raheemjonez2024]

3PO is like Stephen front Django

[@ron_gerson]

Wow! Well done as always. New angles to think about a classic movie. Thanks!