Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Review (SPOILERS After 2 Minutes)

Here are my thoughts on Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker.
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[@TheGuitarBling]

For the first time in Star Wars history, C3P-O was actually more useful than R2-D2.

[@PaulStargasm]

First time he was tolerable.

[@dipi71]

@@PaulStargasm Enough reason for me to watch the movie. Cheers!

[@OldmanSk8ing]

C3PO wasn’t even needed in the end. She found the artifact anyway. But it was cool to have him have a good role in this one.

[@collguyjoe99]

Anthony Daniels was playing a Pilot/Gunner in the end battle scene as well.

[@punkfunkyeahstudios1718]

Jedidiah Smith I like that everyone still hated him when he couldn’t tell them what the dagger said! 😂

[@jimbophoenix]

Took Luke almost 30 years to finally lift that X-Wing out of the water.

[@kidofsteel0362]

Lol nah it had only been down there for about 7 years by the time of this one. Ben turned to the dark side 6 years before the force awakens.

[@JP-hk6xw]

@@kidofsteel0362 I think he's talking about how he failed to lift it in ESB and he finally did it in this movie

[@depreseo]

well you know being one with the force means being back in the presence of yoda and obi wan again so they made sure that this time he couldn't run off and made luke sit down, lift those rocks and finally lift that x-wing. No running off to pick up power converters this time :P

[@SavAnz81]

Made me mad she burned Rens Ship, way but for Nostalgia sake we must put her in an X Wing.

[@jimbophoenix]

James Ansley “Red five is in the air”. Loved that line

[@henryhammond7393]

"The Rise of Skywalker just didn't feel natural to me." Agreed. After all, the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

[@ЛоганДункесон]

Stop that immediately

[@ilikepigeons6101]

Chico The Fat Kid he isn't wrong

[@MrErodriguezd]

is it possible to learn this power?

[@goysgoysgoys]

@@MrErodriguezd not from a Jedi

[@ig-8861]

Ben Solo being a heroic, cocky and slightly clumsy Jedi. Might be my favourite moment of the entire film. It's such a shame we're never going to see him again. It's one of the great injustices of the Sequel Trilogy.

[@SchultzDorinda]

It would've been a better development to end with Ben alive and Rey to stay dead. And have Ben move on from his mistakes, carry on the Skywalker name and maintain the balance of the Force (like making sure that the new generations are balanced between light and dark as he knows both ways of the Force) It would've given more meaning to the title 'The Rise Of Skywalker' if it meant Ben. Plus he could've named the new generations of force wielders Skywalker. Maybe even establish his future on Tatooine in his family's old home. That would've been a perfect conclusion to the legacy of the family of the Force.

[@SASLEAD666]

When was he heroic? The whole movie he just stalks Rey abd wants to rule over the galaxy with her. There really wasnt anything redeemable about him he just didnt believe the emperors cap.

[@Scrapluv]

@@SchultzDorinda I don't see how they could have pulled off everyone's acceptance of Kylo after everything without Rey to facilitate. I thought Rey adopting the Skywalker name in honor of Luke and Leia was poetic.

[@rohitjammu6047]

@@SchultzDorinda it would've but let's be honest Rey is the main protagonist in the film. I am happy they gave my boiii Ben more justice but he should've survived and Rey should've sacrificed herself to force heal him

[@DragonRebelRose]

It really is an injustice, because they set up that he might have a happy ending where he gets to live and be with Rey and they'll never have to be alone anymore. Remember "You're not alone" and "Neither are you"? Yeah, TLJ knew what it was doing and what it wanted, but here it felt like he was shafted just to get rid of him because oh no, we can't have him alive it would be too problematic. Come on, it could have worked if they had just gone back to the writing and thought it through.

[@Cboz1978]

When Leia died and Chewie found out is what got me.

[@unintelligentintellectual8508]

Same

[@sineddokgnam7087]

Totally

[@theoheiland6807]

She didn’t hug me. Why should i care?

[@thunderhamilton1]

But he didnt when Hans died which is weird

[@-jank-willson]

only good, emotional part in the whole movie

[@shundy00]

Leia was holding the medal when she died. I'm assuming it was Han's and that why Maz gave it to Chewie

[@grim-magus2372]

Exactly what I thought as well and I’m certain you’re correct here.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

I thought it was Han's ... until the celebration scene where Chewie was waving the medal around like it was "about time"

[@alfonsopayan09]

Chris Pessetto in books they already said he had one So for casual fans they think this is his his only medal... but it’s off because now he has two

[@whiplash3376]

That was the medal they all got after the return of the Jedi. Chewie got it because he was never given one.

[@superduperluin]

@@whiplash3376 He definitely got one

[@98wittman]

I think Palpatine was literally all the Sith implying the Rule of Two means that once the apprentice kills his master they become one, slowly becoming stronger and stronger with each Sith master. But I think Rey meant metaphorically when she said she was all the Jedi. She has all the Jedi behind her helping her along the way and that good will overcome bad every time.

[@ajw5388]

Yeah I think you nailed it. I think this interpretation of the Rule of Two was a really cool lore moment for TROS personally. One thing I might’ve changed though is that instead of Rey hearing the voices, they could’ve had all of the force ghosts gather behind Rey and lend her their strength.

[@Darthpsychonis]

The way the Force ghosts talk they seen to imply that they are literally giving Rey their power.

[@bartekkubicaku-bitsa9802]

Oooh, that is some what I didnt think of! Cool!

[@Apidooom]

It's like the Avatar cycle

[@karmabad6287]

I'm pretty sure that's how it worked in legends. The whole rule of 2 thing was so the sith dont have to share power. There is one master with all The power of the dark side (litterally all the dark side force flows through him alone) and an apprentice is found who basically gather the dregs of The dark side power until they have enough to defeat their master at which point they become all powerful in the force. And then they take an apprentice if their own. This is why sith masters are so powerful and why the jedi were so easily defeated in past episodes. Their force power was spread thin because they shared it between many. Maybe I'm misinterpreting but that's what I've been given to understand.

[@ryandeasy678]

I really liked the flashback of Luke and leia training and I really liked seeing Wedge in the film

[@PepsiGolem]

Ryan Deasy Uh, you do know Biggs died in A New Hope, right?

[@ryandeasy678]

Saphrone Seidel yeah I do. As soon as I posted the comment, I re-read and realised my mistake. Best I edit that 👍

[@chrissonofpear1384]

He got one line (Wedge) Sad. On the other hand - He LIVED baby! Whole six films.

[@jimbophoenix]

Nice flying Lando!

[@user-rj4pq7lm1n]

this feels like it's both a sequel to a film that doesn't exist and a weird response to the complaints of the last Jedi

[@PureHarry]

This. It feels like were missing a 2nd movie with this one. It has some ties to the last jedi but really its unrelated in many aspects. It's wierd.

[@trevordavis6830]

That’s because Rian heavily deviated from the story outline that JJ and the original ep9 director wanted and Disney wanted to put everything into Rots that would “please” fans as much as possible. So this is essentially JJ trying to push the story into somewhat the direction he originally intended(Rey’s parents being important, a big evil bad, and Kylo getting redeemed) and Disney enforcing nostalgia bait(like Palpatine being back) in order to “fix” the damage TLJ made to the brand.

[@bruhmieter5688]

@@trevordavis6830 glad rian did it anyway he still has a good shot at changing star wars.

[@trevordavis6830]

bruhmieter568 Changing Star Wars into what?

[@christophermarabella5683]

@@trevordavis6830 Last Jedi was loved by critics and made 1.5 billion dollars tho

[@gendissaray]

Do you think the timing of showing the child use healing and Rey was on purpose?

[@gregz.4842]

I thought of that too. It's like they were preparing us for that force ability.

[@rahul327]

To quote Joe Rogan, "Oh, a hundred percent"

[@NoStyleDutch]

rahul327 it’s entirely possible

[@onedeadpixel10]

Yes. They released the episode 2 days early in order for it to come out ahead of the movie. It seems pretty clearly intentional

[@billybuchanan385]

They did hint at healing back in episode 2 of the mando as well

[@andregalaxys2]

Fun fact: This is the first trilogy in which noone looses a hand.

[@ijuwan17]

Sam X well if you ignore being cut in half

[@PepeSlake]

I'm pretty sure Snoke left a hand on his throne 😂

[@PepeSlake]

Also, it seemed like Kylo was about to lose a hand when he was fighting Rey near the Death Star.

[@abostonceltic]

Chewbacca rips off Unkar Plutt's arm in TFA deleted scene. Shame they cut it!

[@Cobralalalala]

@@PepeSlake He did indeed!

[@sonsique]

the best part was when palpatine bass boosted the planet with his electric fingers

[@BetaBreaking]

I audibly laughed not gonna lie

[@dutchvanderlinde5218]

LMAO!! 😂😂😂

[@traveller400]

I was in a Dolby theater and I swear I thought the US was nuked.

[@JP-hk6xw]

Now you will experience the full POWA of my bass

[@ederruiz9672]

Deep fried Star wars

[@littlenicky666]

Kylo is definitely the best character to come from the new saga.

[@ColmK83]

The only character I care about

[@markshark9607]

On bro

[@nikojanatuinen631]

Agreed, but also Rey was amazing in this film!!

[@Seripmac]

I wish he had survived, but being a force ghost isn't too bad either.

[@copyrightstrikez_bandit143]

littlenicky666 even if that's true? It still doesn't negate the fact this sequel trilogy never should of been made, green lit, etc without Lucas original outlined that was planned. Nobody knows Anakin more than Him, & Iger excluded Him from it. Last I check Return Of The Jedi perfectly reconciled the Skywalker's narrative, hence any further continuity was asinine.

[@thomasmonaghan3146]

I think Leia died by using the force to allow Han to be able to talk to Ben one last time, draining her life force.

[@groddofwar7464]

No, she died of a heart attack..

[@EtanRedKnight]

I think the original scene was Carrie's. Leía dying and then talking to Ben.

[@uydukuvita-man4696]

Nope

[@jflartner117]

That wasn't Han, it was all in Ben's mind. He even says so himself during the scene.

[@nbconrad28]

@@groddofwar7464 No she lost the will to live.

[@lukedebiase8212]

They should have had one person write all of these movies

[@hwan2499]

Exactly....

[@derekmccord3798]

Luke DeBiase yes we knew this was going to be a clean up job

[@reggieman02626]

Agreed

[@StuartLugsden]

That one person should have been Lawrence Kasdan.

[@derekmccord3798]

Stuart Lugsden if he wanted to, maybe he didn’t. We all know this falls on Kennedy for not having someone write all of it.

[@EvanzZx]

I enjoyed the film, but I am deeply gutted Anakin did not have a much larger role to play.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Felt somewhat earned, if he had.

[@rebeccaamidala6835]

Me too 💔💔

[@paulrubio206]

I am kind of with you, but it’s a slippery slope for them what with the force ghost controversy. I was sort of content with him saying to bring balance as he did though.

[@chrishandsome4267]

Paul Rubio Lol that’s a slippery slope? Dude they gutted the entire saga, that would’ve been the one thing to possibly help save them.

[@tomasgabrielcarrizo8342]

Anakin never had the posibility to have a large role in the film.

[@sithlord93]

I'll like to think that Snoke is a local species of Exogol, like the hooded Sith followers in the arena. He is just one of those puppets brought out to distract the rest of the universe.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

No. Snoke we now know is not native to Exe. The hooded Sith are loyalists and the real Exe natives became slaves used for the zombie ships.

[@daanwiemers7937]

I really loved seeing all that Sith occultism and that arena with Palms fanboys

[@lars5377]

Sith ghosts. Not Fanboys.

[@daanwiemers7937]

easy I kinda interpreted it like his followers seeing as they also build and manned his fleet. Maybe there where both ofc

[@undead4500]

@@lars5377 are they? they look like sith cultists I assumed that they were acolytes of the beyond.

[@MLennholm]

Same here. Though I found it stupid that the emperor was revived and thrown into this, he's such a wonderful character and that setting was awesome so I enjoyed every second of that scene.

[@undead4500]

@@dalegribble4308 yeah with Palpatine because he called them my faithful.

[@Bion479]

I'm totally agree with you. I think whether on not you enjoy this movie is whether you get behind the palpatine revival from the start or not

[@zatharigo7815]

unfortunately if you have any sort of story quality standards, you cant get behind it

[@kpllc4209]

I wasn't against Palpatine revival but I am against turning Star Wars into a mindless action movie.

[@zatharigo7815]

@@banehog yeah

[@undead4500]

@@zatharigo7815 based on what? Revenge of the sith was building and foreshadowing Palpatine returns with Plot that about to gain power over life and death.

[@zatharigo7815]

@@undead4500 Are you serious? XD he was annihilated in episode six, and there was literally zero buildup to his return in this particular trilogy. I wish this was the only problem with this new movies, but - sadly - I have never seen any trilogy which consist of movies so disconnected - both on thematic and plot level. Unlike the previous movies, this trilogy is practically will prove to be unrewatchable because most of the plot doesnt make sense and doesnt have any thematic integrity. Time will tell, I am happy for everyone who enjoys it by the way :)

[@Mark_The_Chemist]

In that final battle, did anyone else blurt out "Holy Crap, That's Wedge!"

[@pyrocatheter]

I didn't recognize him but I figured he must have been someone from the original trilogy!

[@TheJacobG]

"It's fine" hits it right on the nose for me too. What this film solidifies for me is that there was clearly no overall vision for this trilogy.

[@rohitjammu6047]

Yup there was no roadmap before hand

[@Playhouse76]

They had some general concepts of where they wanted to go; Adam Driver has talked about this. But yes, there should have at least been a framework outline from the beginning. And before anyone jumps in with word about JJ having supplied an outline that Rian ignored, from all accounts it sounds like he offered some general thoughts but there wasn't anything as concrete or defined as people suggest.

[@TheLoreSeeker]

@Darth Cameron At the same time... I feel like they could've easily chosen to forego the Reylo kiss and just had her embrace him and say something meaningful about him being Ben again and the scene would've been just as impactful without needing to go into "shipping" territory.

[@billybuchanan385]

Does anyone else kinda feel like the last Jedi was sort of ignored in this movie? Almost like it didn't effect the plot much at all. The middle movie doesn't bridge the gap between TFA and Skywalker. I also kinda disliked luke for what he said about throwing the lightsaber away basically saying what all the fans have complained about from TLJ

[@billybuchanan385]

@Darth Cameron yea they carried over some aspects especially the force connection between the two. Didn't like how they played off the hyperspace cannon attack as not viable for attacking the star destroyers. There was a lot of attpts to make up for shit that happened in TLJ that seemed lazy

[@AndrewHarrington218]

I figured that the medal that was given to Chewy was originally Han's medal.

[@Playhouse76]

It is, which is why Leia had it. But it's the intention behind the scene that's the thing.

[@toastedzen]

Andrew Harrington I hope so. It’s more beautiful that way.

[@about6smurfs718]

According to the book, force collector, it is Luke's medal

[@groddofwar7464]

I actually thought it was some kind of Uber driver of the year medal..I mean, he was reduced to a Galactic Uber driver there for a while.

[@Seniorup]

It absolutely was, why else would Leia want Chewie to have it after 30 years. Of course it's chewies dead best friends medal.

[@aresalakay3915]

The yellow lightsaber though

[@robbykills]

Was stoked on that for sure. I painted a toy lightsaber yellow when I was a kid! (Not the fancy green Luke one)

[@biokido575]

They probably have a surplus of yellow kyber crystals at galaxies edge. That should shift some.

[@DechantMusic]

Stoked too. I saw it as being Sun colored a Symbol of hope etc.

[@edde1968]

I think Rey having her new yellow lightsaber represents her own identity as a Jedi.

[@TaunTaunTundra4477]

It looked more orange than yellow to me for some reason........

[@45TRANSFORMERSFAN]

One thing that really upset me; This means Ahsoka had to die to be up there...

[@airzfact00]

Ezra too...

[@ajw5388]

I mean she would’ve had to have been awfully old to have lived long enough to be present in TROS. She was already of adult age when we last saw her in Rebels, and that was a good 30-40 years before TFA.

[@45TRANSFORMERSFAN]

@@ajw5388 That's true. I'm sure she would have died peacefully :') Filoni would make it so

[@burningforyou6078]

Adam White but wait how is hondo alive then she was just a kid when she ran into him during the clone wars and he’s still kicking

[@fabiovieira8442]

@@burningforyou6078 species age differently.

[@wanderinghistorian]

"I was left thinking, what was this all for?" Exactly.

[@Gunthusiest]

Dude I was waiting to see Hayden the ENTIRE TIME. Hearing his voice was good though.

[@Bryan-dr5qy]

Leia was holding onto Han's medal before dying, which is passed on to Chewie

[@caelinnis]

the diad in the force thing is a direct reference to KOTOR 2

[@AFchris77]

Clone Wars and Rebels as well with the Brother and Sister.

[@sharonnejones8389]

Hell no thats some other shit. That is not a force bond as explained in kotor 2 or other lore.

[@flamingbunnyrabbits]

Headcannon is that the old lady at the end was related to the officer in Solo and their whole family is destined to name star wars heroes with no last name.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Lol.

[@jimbophoenix]

flamingbunnyrabbits ha!

[@tiznip]

But she doesn't name Rey, Rey said Skywalker.

[@JonBerry555]

Something to consider: the skywalker saga tells of how the skywalkers messed up Palpatine's plans

[@spaulagain]

Exactly, the dark side rises, and the light to meet it. Palpatine was an accumulation of the Sith, an immense power in the Dark Side. The Light Side spawned Anakin which created the path to the end of Palpatine and that Sith entity. The Skywalkers were human, and struggled to defeat this massive Dark Side power despite their inherit strength in the Force. But in the end, it is through their efforts, that Palpatine is defeated.

[@mdfgreenlantern]

The Emperor's granddaughter has taken everything from the Skywalkers from their weapons, droids, ships and even their name . The Emperor won.

[@JonBerry555]

I disagree, she did not take anything away from them. Rather she joined them in rejection of her grandfather. She may have adopted herself into the Skywalker family, but she did it with the approval of Luke and Leia.

[@jbanz2462]

The pacing was all over the place and it felt like they tried to cram two movies into one

[@Aeronor2001]

I said the exact same thing when I left the theater. I didn't think a story could feel rushed and too long at the same time.

[@rambonambo3510]

Too many plots

[@LMonty10]

Nicholas Ramirez not RJ fault. This is on JJ for not adapting and cramming too much in

[@jbanz2462]

Red Blue if RJ had followed some of JJ’s previous storylines they wouldn’t have needed to cram stuff into this movie. My hot take is that if RJ hadn’t killed snoke, Palpetine wouldn’t have been in the trilogy, at least in a major role

[@LMonty10]

laxguy2400 yeah I see. But it seems a bit far fetched to blame a movie on someone who had nothing to do with it. If JJ was as good as I thought, he wouldn’t have done the movie like that

[@lukakrstovic_]

Who else was expecting to see Anakin Skywalker (Force Ghost)

[@robertmaniac]

But the "Real Anakin", Sebastian Shaw, not Hayden like in the retouched special edition.

[@MrJ.S.R]

We heard him tho

[@zappidos1678]

I wanted the third act to last longer with the space battle after all the “people” showed up

[@zoomzoom103]

I personally loved TROS but I like your attitude as a whole like "yeah this wasn't a favorite but there's so much other stuff I love", wish more people were like that instead of just ranting and saying "CANCELLED, OVER, DEAD FRANCHISE!!!11!1!1!!" when they don't really like something

[@LMonty10]

zoom zoom103 i’d call that an actual Star Wars fan

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

I did a mild review and gave it the exact same score 6/10. However that was before the novel, the virus, Iger leaving, etc. I think the more CANCELLED, OVER, DEAD FRANCHISE! interpretation is justified. A good, solid film but it probably did kill SW for a while - its a lot like Phantom Menace did a lot of long term damage but no one knew how much at the time.

[@starwarsnorway2462]

zoom zoom103 i loved it to

[@skywalker2676]

That movie was ass

[@starwarsnorway2462]

Skywalker 26 that’s your opinion you’re opinion is on the dark side

[@sallycummings1453]

I thought Leia was holding Han's medal in one scene. Chewie's reaction to Leia's death gutted me.

[@VickStarkiller]

Sally Cummings that’s the first moment I cried at in this movie. Kudos to JJ for finally giving Leia and Chewie their moment.

[@jamesdawson2906]

Someone handed Chewie Hans medal and said “Chewie this is for you” I cried

[@Kyle-fp5lm]

Anyone else like Rey's new light saber? That twist feature was pretty neat.

[@Mike_C-79]

I was almost sure that it was going to be a double. Totally would have made sense since it comes from a staff.

[@Kyle-fp5lm]

@@Mike_C-79 Maybe it still could? I'm just glad she finally has her own unique lightsaber.

[@DutchMale]

Speed Donut I still want to know how she got/made an orange kyber crystal

[@wookietalks385]

@@Kyle-fp5lm it's totally possible she only lit up one side and that's why we didn't see the whole thing...(if they did show the whole saber, I missed it).

[@damieng6368]

Yeah that was pretty cool

[@ElGuaje007]

When Luke said “that’s no way to treat the weapon of a Jedi” was a big middle finger to Rian Johnson

[@xenwraithtealix1075]

Holy shit, I didn't think of that.

[@Megablast668]

I don't think it was. Luke was demoralized at the beginning of TLJ but by the end of the movie he found the way again as we see in the force projection sequence.

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

That's one way to look at it. Really I just saw it as a lovely contrast to TLJ. Luke in that film was demoralized and bitter and now when Rey's getting ready to do what he did he shows how his faith has been restored.

[@emmittbumms]

Only if you didn't understand TLJ

[@Storbuki]

And what an amazing middle finger it was. Rian stuck a middle finger at Lucas, Hamill, and ALL THE FANS when he had Luke toss the saber over his shoulder. I am Super glad that he got what he deserved ultimately. Yes Rian, you deserve all the hate you get. I really hope that studios will think twice before letting you anywhere near their intellectual property.

[@SpencerDavis44]

Star Wars Explained needed Star Wars explained. Palpatine (Back from the dead): “Ironic.”

[@chriswhite2180]

Spencer Davis not saying you’re wrong but I’d like to know more of an explanation before I’m convinced that palpatines presence is ironic. At least intentionally ironic.if you’re saying that that’s what Vader was trying to achieve but couldn’t , it was what palatine used to seduce Vader. The irony would have been that palpating couldn’t keep himself alive, in my opinion. But that would be a minor theme of the film and would be open to interpretation. Wouldn’t saying it was something STE missed. Again just opinion

[@SpencerDavis44]

Chris White I never said his presence was ironic. You misunderstood my comment.

[@chriswhite2180]

Spencer Davis fair enough. Still don’t think I get it. Enjoy.

[@mmartinez9764]

He was partly dead, not all dead. He most likely visited miracle max.

[@matthewhenry9044]

I enjoyed this movie but it would of been better for me if: Palpatine never returned, and we got some other main antagonist threat. Ben got some god damn lines after turning back to the light, and ultimately just didn't. Die. Rey not calling herself a Skywalker. It would of been better if she said "just Rey" forging her own lineage in a sense. I'm with this review for the most part. 6/10 sounds right

[@giglefreakz]

I'd add "Rey not being a Palpatine" to that list, because it ultimately didn't even have any impact on the story.

[@matthewhenry9044]

@@giglefreakz yeah, that'd be on there too

[@davidozab2753]

Fine with Rey taking the Skywalker name, but would have preferred it with her as "no one."

[@matthewhenry9044]

@@davidozab2753 I just got done seeing it for the, um, third time and and I'm liking it more with each viewing and I'm ok with her saying it now and as far as palpatine... With the killing of snoke, I guess... Where were they going to go with something that felt like a real threat? So I'm becoming more forgiving of that too 😒

[@davidozab2753]

@@matthewhenry9044 Going to see it again soon too 😊

[@animatheanimationarchive7577]

This man is the best Star Wars fan. He’s not the voice this fandom deserves, but the one it needs.

[@sharilshahed6106]

Yeah, he's absolutely rational. Not someone completely rages on when something is subpar nor completely ignores the flaws in the better stuff.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

And what about Eckhart's Ladder?

[@MrTony-rx7tk]

Let’s not forget about HelloGreedo

[@jghamann]

He´s a fan, not a fanboy.

[@groddofwar7464]

Why? Because he doesn't hate it? So if people hate it and call it liken it is, then their voices are invalid somehow?

[@maxschrader3884]

Snap :(

[@DarthRelkew]

May he rest in peace.🙏

[@The_Quiet_American]

Poor Snap... he deserved better. I gasped when he ate it, and no one i was with understood why I mourned someone they assumed was a Red Shirt.

[@maxschrader3884]

Ryan Johnson At least he got a little of screen time and a good line in this movie. I think the expanded edition will give him a good send-off.

[@TheLoreSeeker]

I was hoping it wasn't going to be Snap when I saw the Poe screaming bit in the trailer.... but then it was Snap...and my heart broke. So many Snap books...and the poor dude goes out like that.

[@maxschrader3884]

TheLoreSeeker I agree with you he’s definitely my favorite New Canon character

[@Xerxes2005]

Rey's parents looked old enough to have been born during the Clone Wars. The Supreme Chancelor of the Galactic Republic certainly had enough charisma to impress a young woman to bear him a child.

[@boxhead6177]

or his "son" was clone.

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

@@boxhead6177 Or Disney could care less that Rey the daughter/granddaughter/whatever of x or y - just get Palps back and we've got a hit or so Iger thought and look where we are now.

[@sybillestahl8646]

I found this to be two hours of amazing action, adventure, visuals, and humour, unfortunately capped with a very disappointing death.

[@thesawtoothdude]

I almost cried when Ben threw his red saber into the sea

[@DrMonty-yr1kc]

@@MarsVee123 lol

[@wollsmoth69]

Mars Vee Not almost. Completely

[@JTOWNDOWN1312]

The jedi voices gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. It’s literally insane how it makes me feel it’s just pure unsolicited joy I love it

[@ItsArrzee]

Great review. Everyone needs to take after Alex here. He didn’t enjoy it as much as he thought he would, but he’s not here to bash it or complain. So much respect, seriously. No one seems to be able to do what he does these days. I look forward to hearing more from your take about the movie in the future

[@MrTony-rx7tk]

That’s because unlike a lot of Star Wars “fans”, he’s a mature adult who is far above whining like a bratty toddler when he doesn’t get exactly what he wanted out of a movie.

[@reszzz]

@@MrTony-rx7tk Exactly. You're both right

[@robbykills]

@@MrTony-rx7tk absolutely. This is the only Star Wars channel I consistently enjoy for that reason. I know I can trust his reviews, even when I don't agree with them.

[@Joshml98]

Well I wasnt underwhelmed or overwhelmed by this film I'd say I was just whelmed.

[@josephmakowski5975]

@Josh I see what you did there

[@Apidooom]

So crash

[@kristenkristen7140]

I loved it

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Hard to say. Thinking 7.5 out of 10, at present. It's... tricky.

[@Joshml98]

@@strangeclouds7 well I definitely enjoyed it more than the last jedi. Although I did actively hate the last jedi but this film was enjoyable even with its issues

[@hakim7945]

Fin is force sensitive

[@hakim7945]

Jordan Fulton agreed but it was HEAVILY implied that fin was force sensitive. that was the “secret” he wanted to tell Rey.

[@LTDLimiTeD1995]

@@hakim7945 That and " love you."

[@chrissonofpear1384]

If we go the really obvious route, that is. Visual Guide also hints Jannah is Lando's daughter. So no sister link there then.

[@HiddeNinja89]

@@hakim7945 I thought the secret he knew was that rey was a palpatine. He said that it was a secret leia also knew to Poe.

[@Yibambe.]

@@hakim7945 Finn wanted to tell Rey he loved her. I hope he does in some parallel universe.

[@EpoxyMuffin]

This was an error. This whole trilogy should have been planned. It's painfully obvious what a mess this became behind, on, and in front of the screen.

[@snapgab]

It's really not about having a plan though, not having a solid plan beforehand is not automatically a bad thing, it's totally possible to take it one movie at a time and to simply say "ok, where do we go from here" after each one. It becoming totally disjointed was not inevitable, it only happened because apparently JJ didn't feel the need to actually see what would follow naturally after TLJ, and just randomly did his own thing instead of looking at what would make sense after TLJ, like RJ did after TFA.

[@annnee6818]

@@snapgab I agree with OP. You cannot take over such a big franchise and then just wing it.

[@snapgab]

@@annnee6818 the franchise was created by winging it...

[@ricardoignacioildefonso8717]

snapgab Yeah.Leia was not originally Luke sister and a early version of the emperor ended up being a pawn of the New Empire.

[@EpoxyMuffin]

snapgab the first trilogy was never meant to be a trilogy. It was just one movie, they didn't wing it. They had to retcon when they made the next two movies. There were changes, but they had a more clear direction than what Disney made. Even if it had worked back then, it doesn't mean it's a good idea now.

[@Ruylopez778]

15:45 "Is that it? The Skywalker saga had a much more impactful and important ending in Return of the Jedi" In a nutshell.

[@sejanoz]

JJ's obsession with emperor figures and superweapons is ridiculous. Neither of those were needed for this movie

[@DrMonty-yr1kc]

@@robbhays8077 Well yeah it needed Palp...but ffs dont include him in the last movie with no real explanation

[@SN2903]

Theres no explanation of him in the original trilogy in fairness

[@boushh2187]

I agree with just about everything in your review. I had a good time watching this movie, but I did have little issues throughout. I could have dealt with just about everything that bothered me if not for Ben dying and Rey being a Palpatine. I would have loved to see him atone for his actions and perhaps having others reluctantly work with him when necessary, and have him be a Han Solo like Jedi. I also would have preferred Rey not to have been related to anyone in the end and have the rest of that story play out the way that it did. I need to see it again, and see if I feel differently then.

[@-o-o-1917]

Everyone in my theater clapped when luke lifted his x wing. That scene made me so happy its unimaginable😭

[@urjj2982]

I smell cap

[@corystanish]

Yoda's theme playing in the background was what sealed the deal for me.

[@applepie9937]

"He was instantly endearing " yes. Very well said. Oh my god its so nice to see a review from someone who actually likes him!!

[@OniLink96]

Jan S I like Adam Driver's preformance, but I don't especially feel like Ben's turn is earned. Ben comes around too fast without enough setup. Carrie Fisher's untimely death is partially to blame, but so is just how the script is written around it. I don't think it gels well at all. Vader's turn in RotJ works much better in large part because of things like his and Luke's conversation before meeting with the Emperor and him showing some softening because of his son but still feeling like he's in too deep.

[@applepie9937]

@@OniLink96 That's totally fine!

[@winstonsmith7584]

@@OniLink96 What about how Ben has had the whole softening up thing for an entire trilogy? In TFA he's torn apart by the decision on the bridge, he could well have walked home with Han at that very moment. In TLJ he's halfway back to Ben when he reaches out for her hand and they touch through the force or he asks her to join him in the throne room. Etc etc. He's been flip flopping for three movies.

[@KUYA12]

Spoiler comment: Snickered in my seat when a resistance dude suggested to 'Holdo hyperspace ram' that Sith fleet when they get to Exogol. Then another says that was a one in a million move. Lmao at least that gripe form Last Jedi was mentioned in this movie.

[@frankusyoung4198]

Then at the end above the moon of Endor the 2 ewoks are watching a Holdo thing in the sky

[@davisssamuel]

That resistance dude? That was Charlie from Lost lmao

[@CyanKash]

I wished Ben survived as well but he needed to repay his life force to a loved one of the Skywalker’s as Anakin took Padme’s life force.

[@tylergalligani6450]

@@robbhays8077 his death was handled kinda poorly though. They could've framed that way more effectively

[@OperationBlueprint]

Wait. HOLD UP! If Ashoka is speaking to Rey as a ghost... She died between Rebels and TRoS. Heartbroken.

[@nikojanatuinen631]

How old would she be anyway?

[@melanix8]

Oh, I didn't think about that earlier :-O Ahsoka... :'-( But she presumably was 70 years old during sequel trilogy, so maybe she died as a old woman, in peace... maybe...? I hope so. She deserved it.

[@xenwraithtealix1075]

A powerful, force sensitive Togruta can live up to 200 years, but an average lifespan of a Togruta is 82. Given she wasn't Yoda-level, I suppose she could be dead.

[@podracer35]

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw her name in the credits. So much for "Ahsoka Lives" :( I mean, there's still a chance she was simply speaking to her through the Force. Unlikely, but not impossible

[@frankywolfe3637]

She was alive after Return of the Jedi for sure as shown in the end finale of Rebels. And she was 14 at the start of the Clone Wars, TCW was 3 years, making her 17, there’s a 19 year gap between the end of TCW and ANH making her 36, it’s 4 years to battle of Endor so by ROTJ she’s right around 40 I BELIEVE TFA is 30 years later (might be wrong at that number) and TROS is a year after Last Jedi making her around 71!! Plus Jedi live longer naturally through the force! So I think her death wasn’t natural and I hope we get a story on it!!!

[@dougiemonday]

I think think it was Hans medal 🏅

[@jokullah]

chewie did get a medal somewhere in canon, comics i think, after yavin

[@branovices]

According to the novel the Force Collector, it was Luke's medal but Han said it was his.

[@Tuskin38]

The Visual Dictionary says it's Han's medal. You also see Leia holding it earlier in the movie.

[@bookgirl810s]

That's what I assumed.

[@zachgrace7555]

Han lost Luke's medal, Leia was holding Han's medal when she passed away

[@X-VoodooKing-X]

Keri Russell needed more screentime and show her face.

[@robertmaniac]

Or at least dat ass 😉.

[@joethecrow9092]

Who’s that

[@Surago]

Zulhardy Rahim I saw all I needed of Keri. 😜

[@kevinfry3642]

Yeah they should’ve just left Boba Felicity out, had no substance and the movie didn’t have enough time to expand it.

[@ryanpatrick1875]

Your reaction to Rey Palpatine is my exact reaction. I gave an audible gruff.

[@robbykills]

I said "aw dammit" louder than I meant to

[@Bryan-dr5qy]

When Kylo was talking about her parents being nobody I was nodding thinking to myself yes go with it, and that nod slowly turned into a shake when he said she was a Palpatine. But more viewings have changed my mind on it surpisingly

[@DavisA1409]

I think I kinda frowned and grimaced at the same time

[@skywalker2676]

Ryan Patrick Star Wars theory called it 2 years ago and I had a feelin she was a palpatine too

[@sebastienmccarthy1483]

I snorted. The way it was told to her was the most ridiculous thing.

[@chetduke1900]

This film should have been titled "Star Wars Episode IX: Threat Level Midnight"

[@hjalmarp797]

+ 1 respect

[@and8091]

pointless office reference

[@joe.9311]

At the entrance to the cinema there was a stormtrooper that looked like a model. My dad said "wouldn't that be cool to have in your room" I said "yeah" We walked past and then I looked back and it jumped at me. Its little touches like that that get you even more hyped for a film. Thanks to cineworld at the beacon for creating such an iconic memory :)

[@augustielle]

There was a concert inside the room, right under the screen. Violins playing live star wars theme, right before the movie started

[@mollykisthart8900]

Does no one realize that was Hans medal that was in Leia’a belongings that she used to conjure a memory of him - the heroic A New Hope him- from the force for her son in her last action and then it was given to Chewie because he is the only one left form their original family?

[@TigerofRobare]

TRoS really made me appreciate the Thrawn Trilogy.

[@bewbtewb]

Was Ahsoka’s voice the only one we presume is still alive? Does hearing her voice imply she is dead?

[@patrickprun1467]

Ezra is in there too. I wonder the same thing

[@meridawatson]

@@patrickprun1467 ezra's was there too? I only heard kanan

[@frankusyoung4198]

Ezra isn't.

[@dalmabu]

The worst for me is the way it leaves the universe. All of it was for what? I don't get a final meaning

[@trombonegamer14]

TLJ has a pretty good thematic ending imo, much better than this one

[@DragonRebelRose]

@@trombonegamer14 I agree, glad to see others do too! But yeah, it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, like all the Skywalkers are dead but the heir of Palpatine gets to live? That's a horrible and miserable ending.

[@construtordemundos3420]

@@DragonRebelRose but it kinda works, I mean In legends the hand of the emperor became Luke's wife.

[@DragonRebelRose]

@@construtordemundos3420 But that's the hand of the emperor, not his actual blood daughter. There is a difference. Also, legends had it wrong too to bring back Palpatine as a clone, and TROS had it wrong to bring him back at all in such a flimsy and cheap way just for shock value.

[@construtordemundos3420]

@@DragonRebelRose true

[@JakedNBaked117]

We meet again. For the first time, for the last time.

[@MayDayEXE]

This really highlights the whole "art is subjective" thing. I actually agree with most of your gripes (especially the Palpatine stuff, although I still LOVED his scenes, I always hated the whole Palpatine clone storyline), but I loved the movie overall. Probably my favorite of the Sequel Trilogy. Yes, the movie has flaws, but I feel like it does a good job overcoming them to present a really satisfying movie overall. I think TLJ is the black sheep of this trilogy. I think if Disney would have given the whole trilogy to JJ so it could all be a unified story, the trilogy would have been better overall. Or, at least have given Rian Johnson a roadmap instead of just saying "do whatever man". Seeing other people's reviews isn't a bad thing, but make sure to go out, see the movie, and formulate your own opinions as well people. Love hearing your take on the movie though!

[@SavAnz81]

I'm with you on this as well. I think this was the better movie though it could never be close to perfect due to the decisions that lead JJ having to come back and direct it after all that stuff happened. If someone watched all the movies up to this one and didn't know Palps was coming back it would be such a disruptive return. Some ppl consider Palps like another death star and a unoriginal villain.

[@MattyS18920]

Agree

[@RPGraciotti]

"I think if Disney would have given the whole trilogy to JJ so it could all be a unified story, the trilogy would have been better overall. Or, at least have given Rian Johnson a roadmap instead of just saying "do whatever man" " Definitely! That has been my feeling during the last week. It's not that I din't enjoy TLJ, I really liked at the time, but TROS made me like less. Not because it was a bad movie, not because TROS killed what TLJ built, TLJ doesn't have its place in Star Wars saga. If we could get the whole story JJ planned OR an ending Rian Johnson planned, it could have worked. Two movies completely disconnected was such a shame, even though I really liked how the story turned out in the end.

[@bbqicecream]

For the question of “what was the actual point of the Skywalkers?”, with the way TROS ended, I believe that the Skywalkers were the inspiration for the Galaxy itself to rise up and finally decide to stand for themselves rather than let an Empire rule for them. This was certainly not explicitly explained, but the way the whole galaxy turns out to fight the Final Order implies this, at least in my opinion. I hope a future book expands on that idea but it would have been nice to see it in the film. Overall I agree with many of your points and also enjoyed the movie as a whole, but I wouldn’t rank it as low and the Palpatine stuff wasn’t a huge deal for me as I thought it was handled much better than in Dark Empire, although not explained well. Thanks for all your content!!!

[@saltrxn]

Especially as far the Galaxy knows, Leia is still alive. So that’s General Skywalker leading that last remnant of hope in that fight

[@b3nhudson]

Yeah, if I had to say, based on one viewing, where this leaves the legacy of the Skywalkers (other than the fact Rey may go on to make her own legacy as a Skywalker), I'd say the Skywalker family is a story of love and redemption against the odds. The fact that Luke and Leia, Han, and Ben ultimately give Rey the love and trust she needs (even as part of the family of their mortal enemy) to turn against darkness is an inspiring legacy. Even at the end of TLJ, this was probably the likely outcome, with Luke being the 'spark of hope'...

[@erikchristiansen6254]

The Death Star was completely annihilated in RoJ. Where did that Death Star wreckage come from?

[@JaydenVarghese]

Erik Christiansen I think that the explosion kind of obscured the wreckage. The sheer size of the station was too much for it to be completely obliterated, I guess. We’ve seen that the wreckage was floating in space in Battlefront 2 Campaign.

[@Fredlyy]

They did Ben Solo dirty at the end. Should’ve lived. He deserved better

[@ShahirHameed]

I agree. Ben should have lived

[@theunderfold]

I'm really hoping the Resistance covers the opening crawl bit.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Neeku karks his pants, maybe?

[@Ash21]

That would be really cool to see, would be even cooler if the final episode of Resistance is during the battle of Exegol.

[@limjiaming270]

Palpatine: i am all of sith! Rey: i am... iron man

[@StuartLugsden]

After sleeping on it here is my full opinion: TROS... is find. It had some great moments that I love but there wear 3 major issues that made me question JJ and Chris. Maybe Pablo Hidalgo's Visual Dictionary/Cross Section, Rae Carson's novel and Phil Szostak's behind the scenes will change my mind when we get some more information. But for now it's find. I'm glad that a few of my wishes came true like who Rey is and who Snoke was but I was disappointed they didn't address the rest. I could have easily swapped some parts out to put those in or change things for the better. Despite that it didn't "ruin" the franchise for me.

[@TheDJLeo01]

Who IS Snoke? I am still confused about that

[@bigfootisreal7197]

Well said

[@bigfootisreal7197]

@@TheDJLeo01 I think they alluded that he was a vessel of Palpatine somehow. It wasn't clear, I'll be curious what the visual guide says.

[@CyberController-]

@@TheDJLeo01 A cloned body that kept deteriorating, so he has a tank of them.

[@TheDJLeo01]

JM I remember now, thanks

[@nowelbobke1506]

To quote the prophecy of the chosen one “through him shall ultimate balance be restored” the keyword here is “through” through Anakin the corrupt Jedi were destroyed, through Anakin the sith (himself and Palpatine destroyed) through his Lineage, (Luke) the light was restored within Anakin and the Jedi order preserved, through Ben was ultimate balance restored through selflessness and compassion saving the one he loved, something Anakin could never do. The skywalkers guided Rey the ultimate dark being, to balance through their teachings. The skywalkers all walked a thin line between dark and light, and through Anakin and the Skywalker lineage ultimate balance is restored, and the Jedi order changed forever. Rey rebuilds the Jedi order with the Skywalker teaching, which will change the Jedi order forever. To quote another important statement from Yoda himself “misread the prophecy may have been”

[@arbaran01]

Nowel Bobke underrated comment ^^

[@Kwijiboz]

The thing that I dislike more about this movie, lore wise, is the fact that it erases the fact that Anakin was the chosen one. And that was word of God (George Lucas)

[@LordRakzoon]

Anakin literally says he brought balance to the force

[@Kwijiboz]

@@LordRakzoon He says it, but he didn't. The emperor survived.

[@Cetra29]

Lucas gave up his word of god and no, he is still the chosen one. Sidous clearly lost in Return and that can be seen in Rise.

[@darcerb]

I understand that, but there’s actually quite a few ways I think you Anakin can be the chosen one in canon and still have this movie exist. Here’s two I just imagined on the spot. Anakin is supposed to “bring balance to the force” right? Well that could literally mean anything because that’s so ambiguous. I mean when he “kills” the emperor in ROTJ he did fulfill the prophecy at the time. The prophecy never said that balance would last forever. Or. You could see the chain of events that Anakin put into place in order to bring balance. Example: he saved Luke’s life from the Emperor, and Luke then was able to train Leia, and both were available to train Rey, who finally brought balance to the force.These events would’ve never happened without Vader defending Luke in the throne room.

[@alexsatterfield744]

Kwijiboz There are two things that I like to consider. 1. Was Anakin ever really the chosen one? Qui-Gonn said that he COULD be the one that the prophecy refers to. And then after Obi Wan and Anakin’s fight, Obi Wan says “You WERE the chosen one”. So did Anakin stop being the chosen one after he became Vader? Did he redeem himself as the Chosen One by “killing” Palpatine? 2. He could bring balance to the force indirectly. He had Leia and Leia had Kylo/Ben. He could’ve brought balance to the force by being the seed from which Ben Solo would rise, and along side Rey, kill Palpatine

[@stock9348]

Should have had more Jedi ghosts at the end when Rey was on tatooine. Like yoda, obi wan, ani

[@DanielGarcia-co5iu]

I really wish Anakin had more of a role to play in Palpatines death. He is the chosen one, George Lucas has said so, and the prophecy was to destroy the sith. His prophecy wasn't complete in Return of the Jedi because he didn't destroy the sith. Not only does Palpatine come back but he has all the sith within him and Anakin is not the one to destroy him at the end of this movie.

[@Sinlessgrins]

I prefer George RR Martin’s take on ancient history and prophecy in a fantasy setting. They don’t always come true. Everything isn’t always exactly how it was written just like human history.

[@nowelbobke1506]

To quote the prophecy of the chosen one “through him shall ultimate balance be restored” the keyword here is “through” through Anakin the corrupt Jedi were destroyed, through Anakin the sith (himself and Palpatine destroyed) through his Lineage, (Luke) the light was restored within Anakin and the Jedi order preserved, through Ben was ultimate balance restored through selflessness and compassion saving the one he loved, something Anakin could never do. The skywalkers guided Rey the ultimate dark being, to balance through their teachings. The skywalkers all walked a thin line between dark and light, and through Anakin and the Skywalker lineage ultimate balance is restored, and the Jedi order changed forever. Rey rebuilds the Jedi order with the Skywalker teaching, which will change the Jedi order forever. To quote another important statement from Yoda himself “misread the prophecy may have been”

[@DanielGarcia-co5iu]

@@nowelbobke1506 Anakin didn't destroy the Sith and he didn't destroy Palpatine, that was Rey. Not only is Palpatine still alive but he is all the Sith, it should have been Anakin to destroy him once and for all completing the prophecy. the Jedi were wrong about misreading the prophecy. Obi wan says, "With all due respect, Master, is he not the Chosen One? Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?" Mace Windu replys, "So the prophecy says." and lastly Yoda ends with , "A prophecy that misread could have been." They're trying to decide whether or not Anakin is the Chosen one who will bring balance. But if they believe the prophecy was misread and it is not Anakin then they are wrong about misreading the prophecy. George Lucas has stated that Anakin is the Chosen one. The Prophecy is about a singular person not about their lineage. George did not say that the Skywalkers are the chosen ones, he said Anakin. Even if it was the case of lineage then Rey killing Palpatine still doesn't connect with the prophecy. Rey isn't of Skywalker blood, what makes the Skywalkers special (mainly Anakin) is that they have lineage in their family that is the actual Force. Anakin's father was the Force. Rey isn't the ultimate dark being either, that's Palpatine, just because shes related to him doesn't make her more evil than him. Where are you getting Rey rebuilds the Jedi order from? That's not in the movies at all, we never see her with any students, in fact throughout Rise of Skywalkeri shes still a student herself under Leia. Youre just making assumptions, we have no idea what Rey is going to do after episode nine.

[@nowelbobke1506]

Daniel Garcia If it wasn’t for Luke Anakin would not have completed the prophecy he would’ve failed, legacy is a huge theme in Star Wars and I don’t care what Lucas says yes Anakin is the chosen one, but legacy and lineage has always been an important part of Star Wars, even he acknowledges that. And if it wasn’t for the skywalkers failures, and guidance, balance would have never come. In the end the skywalkers maintained balance in the force. Palpatine died, and when he was revived the skywalkers were the only reason he was stopped. I can understand why you’re sad, you want Anakin to be the only 1, but Star Wars has always been about legacy and lineage, and that’s what Disney was going for.

[@nowelbobke1506]

Daniel Garcia Also Rey is inherently dark, that’s why it was so easy for her to channel sith lightning, the skywalkers turned Palpatines greatest inherently dark grand daughter and turned her against him, “its ironic isn’t it” at the end of the day Palpatine did die like he said, but the Skywalker lineage and Rey stopped the sith resurrection.

[@user-Jay178]

Glad we are getting a review

[@jlt-kjv2840]

How is Snoke Palpatine if Palpatine apparently sensed Snoke in the aftermath novels. How does this make any sense. Great review by the way. I agree with you on a lot of things.

[@sharonnejones8389]

Because they made it up as they went

[@Surago]

Sharonne Jones lol. Seriously. Snoke was supposedly the reason Palpatine even went to the unknown regions. “I created snoke”. What a joke.

[@jlt-kjv2840]

@@Surago Exactly

[@jlt-kjv2840]

@@sharonnejones8389 A sad reality

[@StreetNoise]

I knew Ben was never gonna survive. It would've been interesting though if he could've left on a self-exile, travelling the galaxy doing good things, helping people, to make up for the things he did. I knew about the Rey is Palpatine's granddaughter thing for awhile now so have had longer to deal with it. I wanted her to stay a nobody but I'm just relieved she's not a clone or Luke/Han/Leia's daughter.

[@KalaamNozalys]

While Rey Palpatine does contradict the message of TLJ, it does bring another interresting one: "You are not defined by your lineage". Rey was "fated" to become empress, but because of her choices (sparing ben etc), she is freed from this fate. It's still a good message, though I would have prefered her to stay a nobody. I also would have kind of liked for Rey to be the one dying and Ben coming back, and having to atone, maybe building back the jedis, now knowing what dark and light are like so he can fully teach them the balance his uncle tried to hard to maintain, plus we could have seen him say "I am Ben Skywalker/Solo". I quite like the mystery box that J.J. left: What did Finn wanted to say to Rey ? That he loves her ? Or maybe (my personal preference) that he wants to be trained to become a jedi (we do see him hold the lightsaber and he does use his instinct a lot). Thematically, that Rey defeats Palpatine only by defending is a very nice callback to Yoda's teaching: "A jedi uses the Force only for defense, never for attack". As attacking would litteraly gives the win to Palpatine. Just by defending she wins and I think it's very nice.

[@nadjalirio8357]

Kalaam Nozalys but at the same time, “you’re not defined by your lineage” is Luke’s story.

[@podracer35]

I like your take on how Rey defeated Palpatine. The guy will never learn that lightning can be redirected to him... I also would have liked Ben to have survived instead of Rey and having to deal with those consequences. Instead, he's now one with the Force, so he's solid. I would have loved for him and Anakin to be with Luke and Leia at the end, but I'm also glad the two siblings were there together

[@KalaamNozalys]

@@nadjalirio8357 True, but not as much. Anakin was a jedi before becoming a Sith. Palpatine was always evil, and planned for Rey to be evil too. On retrospective it works quite well. Rey always have been on the edge, she always have been aggressive and tapped into the dark often when you look at it. And as a lot of people pointed out, she always fought a bit like Sheev xD Luke on the other hand has always been kind, the struggle isn't as strong I feel.

[@DragonRebelRose]

The problem here is that the message for the sequel trilogy wasn't "You are not defined by your lineage" it was "You might be a nobody, but you're a somebody to me" and "You can be a nobody but still become somebody." And yes I know this seems pretty much the same as what you said, but the two are very different because in TFA and TLJ especially the theme was that Rey could be a part of this larger story despite coming from nowhere and being no one. Basically, anybody can become great if they just work hard at it and create strong bonds with others. But the theme of TROS was all about overcoming bloodlines and going against your blood relatives which seems way too GoT for me. Really, Palpatine should have been cooperatively defeated by both Rey and Ben. For Ben because it's Palps who's been manipulating and abusing him since childhood and he tore apart his family. For Rey (if she was NOT a descendant of Palps) because she wants to become a greater person, a greater Jedi, someone who can stand by Ben's side and end the conflict between Palpatine and the Skywalkers. If she had done that, she truly *would* have risen from a nobody to a somebody who earned that title because she co-defeated the greatest threat in the galaxy. But no, now it's all about where she got one of her X chromosomes from.

[@ultratankie]

I agree. The movie still ultimately, and intentionally, rejects the importance of bloodlines and rejects the idea of heritage informing who you necessarily need to be. In that sense, it carries on what The Last Jedi tried to say in some capacity, with the main difference being that there's an in-universe explanation for Rey's natural affinity with the Force. That's the charitable take, at least. For my part, not only do I personally agree with you, it turns my stomach a little that the people who whined about Rey's abilities got legitimized by this movie.

[@jaredjenkins99]

What did the Skywalkers do? They stopped Palpatine. They stopped the Sith. Without Anakin Skywalker being born, Palpatine would have taken over the Senate, destroyed the Jedi, created the Empire and ruled the galaxy for countless millennia. Without Luke Skywalker, Vader never would have turned back to Anakin Skywalker to defeat Palpatine, the Empire would have stayed in place and he would have ruled the galaxy for countless millennia. Without Leia Skywalker, the Rebellion never would have gotten the Death Star plans, the Resistance never would have been created, Ben Solo never would have been born, he would have never flipped back to the light in episode 9 and Palpatine would have ruled the galaxy for countless millennia. Without Ben Solo coming back to fight with her, Rey would have given in to Palpatine's wishes. And he would have ruled the galaxy for countless millennia. Sure Rey struck the final blow, but I believe that without any single member of the Skywalker family, Palpatine would have had unchallenged, unlimited control over the galaxy for who knows how long, and the centuries old war between Jedi and Sith would have ended with the Sith completely victorious. The Skywalkers weren't perfect (Vader). They made a few mistakes along the way (Kylo). They wanted to give up (Luke). But they decided to fight for what was right, time and time again. Sometimes without even using the Force (Leia). They all made a choice to be better. Anakin, Ben, Luke and Leia all sacrificed and redeemed themselves for their past failures. And in the end, they saved the galaxy. That's what they did.

[@jaredjenkins99]

I guess that's what all of Star Wars is about. Redemption. A choice to be better. I mean, Luke, Anakin, Ben, Leia, Han (scoundrel turned hero), Obi-Wan and Yoda (failed Anakin but then taught Luke), Finn (trooper to rebel scum), Poe (barely), heck that's what Revan's character is all about, Bastilla too. There was a pivotal scene about redemption in the recent book Resistance Reborn. Anyway, it's just a great lesson to learn from Star Wars and I'm glad that it's present throughout not just the Original trilogy but almost all of Star Wars.

[@Petard01]

Without Anakin, Mace would have sliced up Palpatine but that probably would have caused some other horrible chain of events that would have eliminated the Jedi anyway.

[@kylobenren8636]

People who don’t like the last Jedi will like this film. People who like the last Jedi probably won’t. EDIT: I’m generalizing here. I realize there are some people who like or dislike both.

[@StuartLugsden]

That’s a good way of putting it.

[@computerboy2k]

Ben Rosa I loved TLJ and TROS...

[@ColmK83]

I didn't really like the last jedi and I didn't really like this film. It was too messy and desperate. I liked the force awakens though.

[@alexsage4]

I love TLJ and I hate TROS so thats pretty accurate for me

[@annatar9365]

I don't like tfa, tlj and whole canon post rotj era.

[@recordswithrem1547]

Finn never told Rey what he wanted to say Also I kind of wish Ben was with Luke and Leia at the end

[@dinodude722]

"the rise of skywalker doesn't feel like a natural progression" that probably sums up my only really major gripes about the movie. i loved it i really did. the action was great, kylo ren/ben solo is fantastic and i would argue that he is the actual main character of the sequel trillogy even if he's not the protagonist. in terms of character arcs a lot of it feels to me like a good natural progression for mainly rey and ben but a lot of other characters as well. and there's honestly a lot to love in this movie, and there is a lot i did love about this movie. but yeah, i feel like the main threat of this movie, palpatine and his fleet, just comes out of nowhere. not shoehorned in to this movie persay, overall its established and built up threw this movie well, but shoehorned in to the final part of the trillogy without properly setting it up beforehand. and because of that the first act of the movie feels very haphazard and rushed to get everything in place. really i wish they didn't mention palpatine in the crawl and just had him introduced in that opening seen with kylo finding him, him being in the crawl feels like you've just read a spoiler. and as stated before the first act of the movie feels very haphazardly put together to get people in their places. i can accept that palpatine has been puppet master-ing events from behind the scenes all this time, and i can accept a fleet of super weapon armed ships. i may not like it in concept and would rather they had done something else, but i can still accept that this is the choices they went with for the movie. and also knowing star wars, there can be comics and books explaining more of palpatines plans and exactly how things got to this exact point. i know that filling in details, big and small, using side stories is bad filmmaking, but its what star was has always done for decades. honestly, i can see people being split on this movie, but not in the same way that people were split on the last jedi. with the last jedi it was mainly a dislike of the developments characters went threw, and that dislike lead to people nitpicking the movie apart and focusing so much on everything they can call bad, even if its just something small or not actually bad. with this movie, it seems more like the people who tend to analyze film structure and plot will have problems with it. because the central threat of this film wasn't set up, leaving the first act, or even you could say the first half of the movie, very messy in its attempts at putting all the pieces in place for its plot. but i can't say the same for the characters. the characters and the arcs they go threw over the trilogy as a whole i feel is what ties the 3 movies together. even if each movie feels somewhat separated from each other. overall, i still really enjoyed the sequel trilogy. kylo ren/ben solo is the best part of it, but i still like all the characters a lot, Poe, Finn, and Rey are all great. i think Rey and Ben make great parallels and foils to each other, and that acts as a central part that holds the 3 movies together. so overall i do actually agree with you on alot of your points, i do not like that palpatine and his fleet of superweapon ships are a thing, but i'm ok with it because of how palpatine works in the context of Ben's story and Rey's story. i noticed some of the contradictions, they didn't ruin the movie for me but i noticed them. (i think it would be interesting if they end up saying that Poe was a spice runner WHILE in the republic navy. i don't know how that would work but him doing that kind of shady stuff while being a solider sounds like it could make for an interesting story. i also like the idea you said of it being Han's medal that was given to chewie.) i didn't have too much of a problem with "Rey Palpatine." the main question it raises is of when did palpatine had a kid, but its not like the timeframe is impossible. just means that Rey's parent was likely in their early 40s when she was born, and palpatines kid would probably have been born in the time between phantom menace and attack of the clones. definitely is one of those things a guidebook would give specific dates to. overall i don't have much of a problem with it, and its good parallel to Ben. i also wish Ben didn't die. i understand why they wrote it that way, i just wish we could tell more stories with him. and really, beyond that i honestly really enjoyed the movie. to address what you were saying at the end of what did the skywalkers do, i'd argue that the sequel trillogy is honestly about legacy. rey's strength in the force is a legacy of her grandfather, and in the end her story was about denying that legacy and taking up another. Ben's story of constant struggle between the dark and light until he finally truely chose his own path as a hero is a good mix of anakin and luke and following their legacies. and in the end there, yes a skywalker didn't defeat palpatine, but the legacy of the skywalkers did. Rey was motivated by stories of luke, partially trained by him, and very much trained by leia. and i've mentioned enough how Ben influenced her and she influenced him. the skywalkers may have made a mess of the galaxy, but all their attempts at cleaning up that mess are what inspired people to do good in the end, their legend lives on even if they themselves are all gone. so yeah, i liked a lot of the movie, but its still very messy and has problems. in general the sequel trilogy definitely had its problems. funnily enough it feels almost inverse of the problems the prequels mainly have. the prequels are poorly acted and poorly made films, though they all follow one coherent storyline and arc. the sequels are very well made as well as having good directing and acting. but they are structurally VERY messy. i still like all these movies though. would probably give this one a 6 or a 7 out of 10. structurally flawed but has some very good parts, still very entertaining and fun.

[@Playhouse76]

As I commented elsewhere: "Rian Johnson tried to give the story more meaning and dig into the philosophy of it all, not unlike what George Lucas was planning with his sequels (aside from all that microbiology bs). JJ Abrams only wanted to pew pew pew, and he botched the landing as a result." I agree that TLJ is an actual response to questions set up in TFA. As a result, despite a tonal shift (which should be expected in the given structure) and choices/answers made that not everyone liked or preferred, it does actually feel part of the same story. It was advancing things. TROS tosses that aside and gives us a film that, honestly, doesn't quite feel like it answers even TFA satisfactorily, even though it offers the safest and most obvious answers for everything. I like JJ Abrams as a filmmaker and storyteller, but he did the same thing here that he did with Star Trek Into Darkness. Sadly, for me, both franchises take a hit as a result. And I say that as a fan of both The Force Awakens and Star Trek (2009). Ultimately, I don't think he was the right choice for this.

[@dannyobrien4569]

I feel like you hit the nail on the head with this. Rian Johnson wanted to take the series in a new direction, hence the lack of super weapons and the removal of the big bad disfigured villain. The message that Rey wasn't powerful because of her parents really stood out to me. Because of those messages, TLJ invoked the ire of a lot of fans, but I feel like they were necessary to avoid repeating the same story as the original trilogy and becoming cliché as a result of more deus ex machina moments. IMHO, JJ didn't have an original vision for the trilogy, and they were right to bring someone else in for the second movie, but bringing him back for episode IX was a mistake. Ultimately it wasn't that bad, but I think it could've been so much better.

[@AFchris77]

I agree with you completely. Couldnt have said it better myself

[@thedisneycentralhub5876]

At first when the twist with Rey’s lineage. At first my reaction was “oh come on...” but then halfway through the film I came to terms with it and really loved it. Especially in that finale.

[@giglefreakz]

What was the point of it though? It didn't play into the plot to any meaningful degree and JJ could have just honoured TLJ and have Rey be a nobody by just having 2 or 3 lines of dialogue in the final battle be different. It's not foreshadowed or hinted at and ultimately it means nothing and only retcons TLJ and Rey's arc in it.

[@SElisa15]

Exhonor I think because it makes sense with why she had so much unexplained power in the force.

[@giglefreakz]

@@SElisa15 I thought TLJ gave more than enough explanation. TROS just retconned it to give Rey some unnecessary legacy backstory that wasn't needed and contradicts a hell of a lot for no other reason than giving the film a contrived twist.

[@HoneyPiss]

I loved TROS. Right now it's my favorite film outside of the OG3. I'm sorry it didn't land as well for everyone.

[@mollykisthart8900]

Also Palpatine coming back was like through all that technology and stuff he’s tied to machines much like Vader with nothing but the dark side of the force to sustain him while he waits for a new vessel. Presumably Snoke was a temporary vessel and the Kylo killed that... so back to the old body it is. He talks to Ben through the force like Leia and Luke did at the end of Empire. Idk why this isn’t working for some people. It made total sense to me, but Star Wars has always been sort of up for interpretation which is one of my favorite things about it

[@MonkeyKing3333]

Rey being a Palp isnt that great of a shock, it was theorized by some years ago. Her theme music, fighting style, name, why she was on Jakku, her anger and the whole SW vs Palp thing just to name a few hints from earlier episodes. It really ties the whole thing together nicely. So well done to those who picked up the clues early on! 👏

[@Alex-tr1ml]

It seems you have never heard the tradegy of Darth Plagueis the wise... Palps literally refrences to what Plagueis could do with the force, and Palpatine finished what Plaguies started. And the yellow lightsaber at the end means in my opinion that the jedi will change. Either go back to the old jedi ways or start from the beginning. This movie was great and saved the mess TLJ left behind. But if this movie feels rushed it is becaouse there was no time gap between 7-8 so thecnically this would be the second movie in the triology imo.

[@imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788]

Did you guys catch the mention of 42? Star Wars (A New Hope) was released on May 25, 1977. That’s 42 years ago.

[@mdhalbrook]

Yes I caught that

[@Infinitystar225]

Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun I did because there was an ad before the film that told us in the cinema.

[@andrewtyrell4795]

Is it weird that my favorite part of the movie was Poe acting like Finn's jealous boyfriend for so much of the movie? Because it was. Lots of fun, that. The Palatine stuff. Oh boy. I was excited when it came out in the first trailer because hey maybe they'll do something interesting with it. But then they didn't. It just struck a negative cord for me and I ended up frustrated the whole movie. With Leia they did the best they could with what they had and it was better than I expected, but I knew how they did it and I could see the scene from TFA where it was all cut from and that distracted me a bunch. Although I will likely find it funny how Leia is completely calm while everyone around her is panicking in the future. I really wanted to love this movie, but it just made a bad first impression. And that's pretty hard to get over.

[@joshuapray]

The second time I saw it, I was able to let similar frustrations (or first impressions) go, and I loved it a whole lot more. The only thing that still gnaws at me is Rey being a Palpatine. Her arc as a nobody was just so good. Despite that, I have decided that I really, really like The Rise of Skywalker.

[@SprayCoke33]

I really enjoyed the movie when I saw it. I'm also inclined to agree with most of your points; the action and comedy were good and I liked a lot of the new characters (as well as Ben Solo), but there were some contradictions and crazy (more or less) reveals, a big ol' fleet of planet-killing star destroyers (would've preferred slightly weaker cannons on those), and the comeback of Palpatine seemed a bit forced, though I did enjoy his scenes. Also, the pacing of the film was a little rushed at times although I don't think I had any major problems understanding what was going on, and a part of me would've wanted more of the main characters to die, but whatever. Overall though, the movie was good and I can't wait to see it a second time. Also: I'm not completely sure but I think I saw the Fireball from Star Wars Resistance at one point. It was when the Resistance scrambled their fighters for Exegol, on the left side of the screen rising from the middle of some trees.

[@nate9962]

This channel’s comment section is the only Star Wars related one I enjoy being in

[@salemmostafa3661]

Hello Greedo?

[@nate9962]

Salem Mostafa oh yea, forgot about that one. That one is good too.

[@phoenixshadow6633]

We could had Ben turn into this decade's Zuko. Oh well.

[@jesselamont]

Alternately ending. Mace windu shows up out of nowhere and gets caught up in palps’ bass boost force lightning and get tosssed out another window yelling “ ahhhhh shiiiiiiiiittttt” Then credits.

[@portal_fxwithrobloxgalaxyf5267]

Dude, it was Han's medal that they gave Chewie.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

If so, then why was Chewie excitedly waving the medal around in the next scene?

[@portal_fxwithrobloxgalaxyf5267]

@@IndianaJoe0321 He held it up and showed 3PO. I'm sure it was Han's Medal, but also signified that he finally got one for the first Death Star as well.

[@IndianaJoe0321]

@@portal_fxwithrobloxgalaxyf5267 : 1) Wookies don't crave medals like humans 2) A long time ago, Chewie got a medal anyway ... in the comics, I think. Or a book. Either way, Chewbacca wasn't supposed to get his own medal.

[@portal_fxwithrobloxgalaxyf5267]

@@IndianaJoe0321 It's all good sir. Merry Christmas to you!

[@OneWingedDemonSlayer]

This is the best video about this film I've seen

[@ColmK83]

Why's that

[@melanix8]

This movie doesn't deserve to be called "a garbage", "shit" etc. I mean, people can have different opinions, that's obvious. Some people will like it and some people will not like this movie, but still, I think this movie shouldn't be called "shit".

[@bebo2629]

@@melanix8 Ture. I am not a big fan of it (I loved the Last Jedi and I think episode 7 was very good) but I still had fun in the cinema and I also like how my friends and a lot of people online loved it and how it brought joy to the people.

[@melanix8]

@@bebo2629 I am glad you think about it that way. But did you see the reviews? Because that's what surprise me. What is in reviews I mean.

[@XboxOrder75]

Go watch Star Wars Theory. His thoughts are less agenda driven and more aligned with fans.