Star Wars: Unlimited - Spark of Rebellion Review: Lorcana, I Am Your Daddy

Tom, Zee, Roy and Joey take a look at Star Wars Unlimited: Spark of Rebellion!
0:00 Intro
1:41 Overview
6:27 Review
18:38 Final Thoughts
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[@GiantBaba84]

For those of you like Joey, who don’t want to play “ keep up” with a collectible game (which is totally valid) but you still enjoy the gameplay, I recommend buying singles of cards you like and building a cube. It turns collectible games into an infinitely replayable board game type environment.

[@Bleuchz]

cubing is the solution to all life's problems

[@TheOldMan-75]

Not sure how a giant SciFi death trap is going to help me but I'll give it a try.

[@Artusxxx0071]

Totally second this

[@PortlandMark]

What is a cube?

[@joshuahay2173]

While technically possible, not really going to be a very satisfying experience with 1 set

[@zmann4444]

So a group of us at Gen Con bought Lorcana when it was released and we were super excited. We then went and demoed Star Wars Unlimited and all of us thought the same thing, this game is just a lot better mechanically and the back and forth actions make for a better game. We are all in on Star Wars Unlimited now and dropped Lorcana as well. One other note is that this game has had the best launch of any new TCG I have seen in a very long time. The hype is building now, so stock is getting harder to come by, but everything was readily available at launch, unlike most other games. This is Asmodee's big release this year, and it shows. I am excited about this game!

[@MorganFleurDeLys]

We when ran all of the Star Wars: Unlimited events at Dice Tower West, they were the biggest hits in the TCG Room. Dozens and dozens of people told us how much they loved it. And every weekend since we’ve been selling out SW:U events in our brick and mortar store. This game is a winner! Love seeing that you guys really enjoyed it too!

[@cubsnextyear17]

I have a lot of Star Wars Destiny stuff and went in with no interest wanting to hate this game. But after playing it and buying the starter deck and a booster box I think the game is really amazing. Very easy to teach but lots of decision making in a very quick fun game.

[@andrewshafer6076]

For those who don’t want to dive into a tcg, but might enjoy this as a dueling card game (can be played 2 player or multiplayer) just remember, starter decks are going to come out with each new set, and the release cadence is pretty moderate at only 3 per year. So next year this time, just buying the starter decks and nothing else, you’d have a great card game system, with 6 different assymetric decks to pick from.

[@Schlagathor78]

I'm there with you on it vs Lorcana. I completely jumped the ship. This game is so good

[@RC-kd3ue]

same! Lorcana felt like it played itself. You knew what card to play. This has more strategy. I am really enjoying it.

[@jansonvocmf]

Solid game. The game is quick, easy to learn, and engages both players at every step. My son stays focused on the game because he isn't waiting for me to complete my whole turn, I am just doing one action and then he takes an action (usually something down right mean). This game keeps coming back to the table not just because of it's accessibility but because of the variety. No two games feel the same. The leader/base combinations really freshen it up if you want a change of pace. As you play you can really see the opportunities for expansion, too. There is room to grow in future expansions. FFG has a hit on their hands and I'm not sure my wallet can repel firepower of that magnitude (but I'll enjoy it!).

[@viktorkm]

I like the look. Its feels like I read a star wars Comic book!

[@RC-kd3ue]

I was an avid Lorcana player, i hace officially jumped ship to this. Its just a better game to me. More strategy, doesnt play itself like Lorcana does, Lorcana has the disney license that I love, but the gameplay is so simple in compared to this. Love it! Hope it is successful for FF.

[@-RTC-]

I was completely ready to write this game off as well, especially because my buddies and I already play multiple other collectible games. But man, it is such a fun system, and building decks really is easy and very fun! Can’t wait for the next set.

[@sylinmino]

I will say that the starter decks aren't particularly competitively viable, but the CARDS INSIDE almost all are. This is because the starter decks are (correctly, and for good reason because it's a great way to teach the game and add replayability too) meant to be jacks of multiple trades but don't particularly excel at one. But it makes the decks super modular and easy to enhance. They're amazing products whether starting out in the game, or for using for deckbuilding.

[@fingolfinfinwe]

You can have a ton of fun with this just with the starter deck plus a bunch of commons/uncommons.

[@danielkeim8558]

I traded multiple SWU cards literally this week! There are also whole discord channels within servers devoted to trades in the local community. Trades are still a viable way to get cards you need in this type of game, so yes people still do it

[@sylinmino]

I like the art style of this game a lot, actually. I love the stylized look, and how it evokes specific feelings for each scene depicted. Yes, it's inconsistent in style, but it also *leans* into that diversity in a very intentional feeling way. I vastly prefer it to the Deckbuilding Game art. That game has very solid art but it doesn't evoke emotion and feeling like this art does.

[@eelektrik1138]

The booster opening experience is one of the best I have seen in CCGs. Each pack contains 16 cards and you can actually pull 4 rares in a pack if you're lucky. I opened a double Legendary pack(Foil Luke, and Devastator) which was awesome too. Every pack contains 16 cards 1 Leader (Common or Rare, no current Uncommon or Legendary leaders, but the chase card here are the showcase leaders) 1 Base 9 Commons (chance for a hyperspace common in here too) 3 Uncommons (The 3rd Uncommon slot can be a hyperspace uncommon, rare, or legendary) 1 Rare or Legendary 1 Foil(Any rarity, can also be a Foil Hyperspace card)

[@CivilianZero]

Eh, the pack sounds good on paper, but the poor box/case ratios make it feel disappointing fast. Though, to be fair, most western TCGs have pretty awful ratios. They’re focused around high rolling big hits rather than getting a consistent spread across boxes.

[@Granite-ny8up]

Very impressed with this game. The ease of building these decks is so important - for the average player, they don't have time to dedicate and pour over options. Love the art too!

[@iam1hobbit]

So I love the art design as a whole. In person, the art/graphic design works very well imo. I also enjoyed the more realistic artwork of all the other FFG Star Wars games, but to be honest, that would have been boring here - just more of the same. I love that the art here is wholly unique. Sure, some pieces I don’t like as much, but most are very cool - and especially the hyperspace versions of the cards (full art/borderless) look slick.

[@briantesterman5778]

Great information and great review. I've been wanting to get back into a good TCG from the ground floor for a while, but nothing has really interested me. You guys sold me on this one. Heading to my FLGS tonight to pick up the starter set.

[@ScytheNoire]

I'm a huge Star Wars fan, but I did the whole CCG thing back in the 90s. Too dangerous to go dipping toes back into that world, although Tom is really trying to tempt me with talk of the starter decks being good.

[@Schlagathor78]

Love the title and the Dune bucket in the back

[@jonl4883]

People, most definitely, still trade cards. Yes, it may be easier to just buy the cards you need online or from a local store. But, having worked in a game store (and still frequent game stores), you see it all the time, especially during events.

[@jessedana9151]

TWIN SUNS… this is the Official casual multiplayer format which is very reminiscent of Commander (singleton cards) but you use TWO leaders and makes for very fun deck building… also it is confirmed JOEY that the next set to drop around July will have the main characters from The MANDALORIAN!

[@nobbynobbs8182]

I felt overwhelmed when I've tried MTG for the first time last year, but this one I really fancy. A bit more streamlined, and I prefer the theme over Magic. I even dig most of the artwork style of the cards. This might be my first CCG I'm considering keep playing

[@gaucholaw1]

Learned how to play at Dice Tower West. Very helpful demonstration there. My first TCG experience. This game is straightforward and easy to learn

[@PontusWelin]

Fully agree on everything said. I think the art is fine. Mostly. One more thing I like about the starter set. Because of how the decks are designed, if you do choose to buy a booster, most cards will be usable in one of the decks.

[@infinitec1]

One game mode I enjoy is draft, and drafting is very viable in SWU with official rules for the draft mode. I played a couple of drafts at my LGS and it was really fun. Each draft deck is a leader, base and at least 30 cards instead of 50. If you like the challenge of going in blind and building from there, it's great. And sometimes you find cool interactions the you wouldn't normally think of.

[@mathiaselsnermelgaard5142]

Check out the draft and sealed rules Tom! So much fun for casual play! 🥳 The game is so good!

[@JacobPorterLadder]

As someone who’s invested a little into Lorcana, I may do the “buy the starter set and treat it as a stand-alone game” sect

[@shanedbunting]

Zee with the most begrudging agreement to Tom 11:38

[@Montag451]

I really had no interest when it was announced, but after seeing the gameplay and trying it online, I was much more interested. Just missed out on getting some before it sold out. Now I'm waiting for the reprint (supposedly coming next month).

[@joeferreti9442]

In the 90s there was a cool Star Wars TCG. I liked the gameplay quite a bit. But the TCG aspect killed it completely, although I admit the sets were especially poorly done back then. Still, TCG is not the way to go.

[@tesla6938]

the way they’ve done this tcg made it really player friendly, and easy to get the cards you need and made the secondary market cheap

[@AdamJorgensen]

You're thinking of the game by Decipher. I think they also did a Star Trek game around the same time...

[@HylianPirate]

I hate that FFG is getting a free pass for ditching LCGs and going back to TCGs.

[@tesla6938]

@@HylianPirate why?

[@popo237]

@@HylianPirate TCGs>lcgs

[@stevenh.5826]

@joey, lcg's ( or ecg's whatever you want to call them) that are worth looking into are Ivion and Ashes Reborn

[@RynoKenny]

Love the timing of this video. Played this at Pax East just three hours before this review dropped. We loved the pace of this game so much more than other TCGs! I went in expecting nothing exciting, but the back and forth player actions is a game changer

[@arnold2011]

Played it once at SPIEL. It was fun but the CCG aspect turned me off. This review made me rethink. I will buy the base box.

[@Alluvian567]

The tempo on this sounds like it is more like Legends of Runeterra which I really liked in how it handled tempo and the very interesting decision on when in the turn to attack.

[@kellz9972]

Absolutely loving this game. My locals are already garnering a decent sized turnout too!

[@Ryans-Guitar-Shop]

I’ve been telling people it’s a good mix of Destiny, Lorcana, and MTG

[@carmanragatz2995]

I’m not a huge CCG fan in general, so I was never really interested in Lorcana or SWU and I didn’t really know anything about either of them, though I did wonder if I should at least look into Lorcana due to all of the hype that it created. This review convinced me not to bother with Lorcana! Not sure that I would get SWU, but I know not to get Lorcana! 😁 I might get the starter pack of SWU as a 2 player out of the box card game, but the price and timing have to be right just because I’m not a huge fan of straight up card games, more of a board game fan. It did peak my interest some though!

[@inwyrdn3691]

From the explanation of the rules, this sounds like they played Shadowverse (at least the video game implementation, such as Champion's Battle for Switch), and polished up and streamlined it even further. I don't play TCGs (I still play Epic) but if I did I would jump right into this one.

[@williamskogen9895]

I got a chance to play this over the weekend. I do like the simplicity of it over other card games. That being said, I question the depth of gameplay. With only one action per turn, you are never going to get off crazy combos like you can in games like M:TG. I also question being able to build unique, interesting or themed decks like you can in M:TG, like sold green creature decks, or red direct damage. These are just my thoughts off my limited exposure to the base decks. Any comments that tell me I am wrong are welcome.

[@bneil4059]

Does this game kill the Deck Builder game that came out last year?

[@pnuthedstroyr]

As someone who has played the crap out of both I’d say yes and no lol the deck building game is a little better as a 1v1 game out of the box than the SWU starter kit but with just a couple booster packs that changes

[@iam1hobbit]

Just yesterday I played both with my friend and we loved both 😄. With the tcg we did a draft with 6 booster packs and it was awesome.

[@isaac_englart]

Art is subjective, personally I think its ok here, not great, but ok. Graphic design on the other hand is less subjective, as its more than just looking pretty, and it is really good here. They've done such a great job of presenting all the information on the cards in a clear and easy to grok way. I've found FFG's graphic design can be very hit or miss, hated Destiny's graphic design for instance, but its done well here.

[@SimulationKris]

So, it's Unlimited but somehow it is still limited (boosters ran out) :D Good I have no one to play it with otherwise I would be hooked.

[@JosephMaiz]

I liked the concept of the 2-zone battles and usage of StarWars theme and license, but for me, I cant afford a CCG... BUT to those that do, I would pick this over the others (lorcana, etc) to date. I cant speak to the deck building part, but we found in the playtest at Pax that the side that takes the lead early was harder to knock off, but there are some cards that can help turn the tide. I prefer the FFG SW card game, but for what it is, its fine. The art is meh - give me comic book/ modern card art. Good luck to those investing in this.

[@johnbrown6230]

I can't believe Roy rated Star Wars Deckbuilding a 9 and Star Wars Unlimited only an 8, especially when the latter has so much potential with all the new cards coming out, so many different leaders and bases, and deckbuilding possibilities. It actually made Star Wars Deckbuilding obsolete for me. Even with the Starter Set (Luke vs Vader), there is more gameplay in Star Wars Unlimited than in Star Wars Deckbuilding. I'm much more inclined to agree with Tom on that one. I rated it even higher. :)

[@RoyCannaday]

I don’t plan on buying any of this game at all for similar reasons to Joey I very much avoid collectible card games for the most part! But I do recognize that it’s a really good game! I recommend the deck building game over this for sure!

[@johnbrown6230]

​@@RoyCannadayI understand where you're coming from. It's true, collectible card games aren't for everyone, and I'm not planning to invest much in it either. While the deckbuilding game has its merits, I personally found the depth and strategy of Unlimited to involve more interesting decisions. In comparison, the deckbuilding felt a bit simplistic to me, and I found myself getting bored after a while playing the same cards over and over again with no new cards being added. Different strokes for different folks. I agree that the art of the deckbuilding game is better though!

[@JuliuszCovers]

Why would you lower a rating of a CCG just because you don't want to play a CCG? Can't you say "This box is 10/10 for me, but I won't be collecting, because I don't want to get sucked into it"? Would you also review a legacy game "5/10 - it was fantastic, but I don't want to play it anymore, because I finished it"?

[@aidenarbolida1555]

I mean the idea of a ccg just kinda ridiculous nowadays, especially with the price of entry. I think the more accessible a game is to people the better it is. Even if the games great, just doesn’t seem worth it if im burning a hole through my retirement funds.

[@aidenarbolida1555]

The idea of a tcg nowadays is a little ridiculous especially for what they’re charging. I think the more accessible a game is to the whole community the better it is. Cause realistically the price of entry for these games is often too expensive for most people to even try it.

[@PatrickBrophy]

I might check out the starter decks if they are essentially a Duel Decks experience. But with FFG's track record of shortchanging their other lifestyle games, I'd be very weary about investing anything into this game knowing that it probably only has maybe 2-3 years before they discontinue it.

[@marks6928]

Netrunner lasted 6 years. Lord of the Rings LCG has lasted over 12. Arkham Horror LCG still has expansions released for it 8 years later. Marvel Champions is still going strong 5 years after release. L5R got discontinued because it wasn't that popular, but they support their other games well.

[@PatrickBrophy]

@@marks6928 I meant to say their CCG style games like Destiny and any of the various others in the past that lived for no time at all. I think their GoT CCG is the only one that lasted a bit before they turned it into an LCG.

[@marks6928]

@@PatrickBrophythere was Call of Cthulhu too, which started out as a CCG and transitioned to a LCG

[@jflartner117]

Zee we're definitely out here trading!!! =)

[@Sjamesbrito]

DT gives out so many 8'5s, that I consider them 9's at this point

[@TheBrokenMeeple]

I round up every decimal.

[@danacoleman4007]

Yeah. You really only need a three-point scale.

[@patrickdunham9490]

Definitely agree with Roy on the art style for Unlimited. Some of it's pretty good (usually ships and characters in helmets) but some of those faces ... not great. Also, Jabba the Hutt looks like the poop emoji. That said, even though I like FFG's old Star Wars art much better, I AM glad they tried something new with Unlimited. It's not as good, but we've also been seeing a lot the same art in FFG's Star Wars games for over a decade now; from X-Wing to the Deckbuilding Game. Even if they came up with something worse, I'm glad to see them try something different for Unlimited.

[@tuckleberryfinn5271]

Gotta disagree with Zee on the sample booster offering. I personally love when the starter decks throw in a booster to give the opportunity to change the feel of the deck. Even 1 or 2 cards can change the "feel" and throw in some excitement when that card comes out of the deck.

[@SparkSign]

Collectable Card Game makes me think more Baseball cards and the like. Where as Trading Card Game makes me think of Magic, Pokemon, and FAB

[@LoDoFilmUnlimitedMedia]

I am ALL IN on this game!

[@mccaski2]

Still bitter about Star Wars Destiny... Played this with a friend yesterday, and it was easy to pick up, but I just cannot get over missing the dice lol.

[@alexanderpopov3587]

Edit: there are several cards you can only get in the Starter Deck. Luke and Vader as leaders are also available in the pre-release kit.

[@fingolfinfinwe]

This is incorrect. Vader and Luke are available as units in the boosters (they are Legendary rarity), but as Leaders they are only available in the starter deck, or as a special promo (Gencon Judge promo and found within the prerelease package).

[@alexanderpopov3587]

@@fingolfinfinwe Yes, this is correct, they are only available as units in the boosters, but as leaders in the pre-release and starter deck boxes. Also, you can just print the card as it never shuffles anyway.

[@rb4551]

Does it play at more than 2? Properly?

[@robertcrist124]

Twin Suns format 1v1v1v1

[@rb4551]

@@robertcrist124 have you tried it? Is it fun? Would it be 4 player only or would 1v1v1 work too?

[@joshuahay2173]

Twin Suns is a purpose built format by the designers and supports an arbitrary number of players (including 1v1v1). Very similar dynamics to MTG Commander

[@vincenthayden7611]

It's wild to me the need to put down another TCG like Lorcana in order to stress your like for SWU. Multiple TCGs can and do exist. Our local Lorcana leagues here have only grown since Inklands release and we have a few folks that are also playing SWU, but thus far no one is jumping ship for one game or another. I hope SWU is super successful and is a game I would totally have been into 10 years ago. I'll probably dabble in SWU a bit as league play takes off here and I give a lot of credit for the really smooth release of SWU compared to Lorcana. Though to be fair to Ravensburger, Lorcana was their first TCG, and this Fantasy Flight has done this before and that experience is showing. Anyway the point here is there is more than enough space for players to play multiple TCGs.

[@thedicetower]

Sure! But they ARE both popular new collectible card games, so it make sense to compare them. It's not like we didn't give Lorcana a positive review.

[@brianbouton3091]

@@thedicetower Star Wars Destiny was a great game, too, but I'm having trouble finding product on the shelves at the moment.

[@Supermaki2]

Nice title 😂

[@ehhhsteve8582]

Virtually the same average rating as you had for Lorcana yet this is so much better? It’s a shame to hear that a few expansions and replays have sent Lorcana so far down for you and I wonder if one or two expansions will send this down too.

[@TerrierHalo]

So the deckbuilding game is cheaper than the starter, but I ponder which one I would enjoy most playing.

[@andyreynolds6473]

Which do you enjoy more, race games or dueling games? I'd say deckbuilder if it's the former, and SWU if it's the latter. There's also more replayability with SWU, because you can always spend $5-$20 on an "expansion" of a couple of booster packs.

[@TerrierHalo]

@@andyreynolds6473 Thank you, you helped me decide. :D

[@CarlToonist]

How close is this to the DC deck builder? (I have never played)

[@joshuahay2173]

Pretty much nothing alike. Completely different genres.

[@danacoleman4007]

If you've never played it, why does that matter?

[@PwndNewbie]

Exactly Warcraft TCG but Star Wars

[@jz1552]

Similar. “Exactly”….nope.

[@marks6928]

@@jz1552yep. It has similarities, but no way is it just a reskin of WoW.

[@darinherrick9224]

Seems like a game to buy a huge box of like 500 cards for $20 in a few years.

[@RazBaz07]

Would have really liked a comparision with SW: The Deck Building game for this review. I have it and really like it. Maybe there will be a comparision video from Tom. Would be intresting to hear what he thinks the future is for the DB-game will be now that this is out.

[@valzalel5203]

Really hoping they still have plans to expand the deck building game

[@RazBaz07]

@@valzalel5203 Ya... that's my worry too.

[@db8094]

that's sort of an apples to oranges situation. 0% alike.

[@danacoleman4007]

If you own the other game, and watch this video, shouldn't you be able to compare them yourself?

[@RazBaz07]

@@danacoleman4007 Well… I trust Tom’s opinion more than my own. 😅

[@HylianPirate]

Happy to see Joey criticizing the CCG model.

[@cjpeach11]

Why? It's been covered before how ignorant that argument is. Cost is the main reason comp lcgs failed. That's WHY they need to be tcgs.

[@HylianPirate]

@@cjpeach11 Netrunner didn't fail. But where was it covered? That seems interesting.

[@cjpeach11]

@@HylianPirate go watch team cov. Ffg wasn't making enough to warrant paying for the license thereby not renewing it. Navarro and others have publicly said as much. Was it well received by it's audience yes. But it didn't make enough revenue to warrant continuing it... Which in turn means it failed.

[@HylianPirate]

@@cjpeach11 So Disney and FFG had to make a game with artificial scarcity and players have to spend hundreds of dollars on one game to make enough money for Disney and Embracer. Capitalism and greed wins again.

[@andyreynolds6473]

@@HylianPirate How much do you think people spend on LCGs in comparison? The old LCG model was two-three core sets at $50 or $60 each, plus a $15 expansion every month. Not to mention the occasional "big box" expansion that was $30 or $40 (usually twice a year). So an initial buy-in of $100 to $150, plus another $180/yr on monthly expansions, and $70 or so on big box expansions. Now say you're someone who wants to play one of those LCGs but didn't start playing in year one, and want to buy everything? Assuming the monthly expansions are even still in print, you're looking at $500-$1000 to get caught up. How much would it cost you to buy everything out right now for Arkham Horror, Lord of the RIngs, or Marvel Champions?

[@MrLinguist88]

Glad the Dice Tower liked SWU 😊 And it says something when the biggest negative point talked about is... cosmetic card art 😅

[@julianprofas]

The mana system is great, the faction colors are cool, the turn structure is great, other than that it’s basically hearthstone with 2 lanes. Not saying that’s not good, it just didn’t wow me at all.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

A number of positives mentioned will deteriorate over time. The starter decks will become less competitive once new sets release. Balance will get worse, and the buy in for new players will get higher and higher. That's true of most LCGs/CCGs of course.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

One of the main complaints about MtG is the competitive nature of the player base. Most cards are 🗑️ when you are trying to only build top tier decks. Casual play is completely different. We'll see what happens to SWU.

[@darinherrick9224]

Give me one reason why I should play this instead of the Star Wars LCG.

[@thedicetower]

Well, I gave plenty of reasons in the review, I guess, but I had more fun playing this one.

[@danacoleman4007]

I will NEVER knowingly give money to a company like disney.

[@TSDreamCreative]

When you compare this to Lorcana, which sort of was trying to accomplish the same thing in the gaming world, Lorcana ends up looking like an average game with amateur game design. Lorcana can still be fun, but SWU absolutely overtakes any and all of my time and interests. The biggest thing that might hurt SWU is also one of its biggest grabs-the Star Wars theme.

[@ConeDefense]

I would argue when you compare art & graphic design, SW looks very amateur however.

[@TSDreamCreative]

@ConeDefense the art for Lorcana looks better, although a completely different style. But the graphic design of Lorcana is servicable but not exciting. At minimum, a ton of cards in Lorcana have absurdly large text boxes where art could have been. But the same is true for SWU. But at the end of the day, I'm going to pick the game with the better mechanics over the one with better art.

[@whiteshark17]

I feel like people trashing Lorcana have played with starter decks from the first set only. The strategies and playstyles are deep and the cards are very thematic. Not to mention the artwork actually is something I would want to look at.

[@TSDreamCreative]

@whiteshark17 I've played Lorcana a ton, and still do play it. I went to quite a few weekly events and such. I even ran my own Learn to Play events to help build a community. My thoughts on the game are not some shallow thoughts from only touching the starter decks.

[@brianmattei7134]

@@TSDreamCreative Lorcana's only problem is the "first player" problem. Games are heavily skewed to who goes first.

[@IronDuck789]

Do a comparison video between this and the deck building game for yhose of us who havent picked up either!

[@pikkdogs]

Ones a deck building game and ones a ccg.

[@klabjcobevj72nso0fj4]

And make a video comparing this to Ark Nova! Why not?

[@markusbiewer2756]

You can't really compare those games, they are totally different. The Deckbuilding Game is like Star Realms, where you *build* your deck *during the game* . The Unlimited is like Magic, you buy boosters, collect the cards and you *construct* your deck *before you play* , using cards from your collection.

[@truthxbexheard1]

I’m happy for Lorcana and Star Wars! Hope they both succeed. I prefer Lorcana only because the lore is more familiar but Star Wars is killing it with all the accessories. If I could go back and choose a TCG day one, I would prob have chosen Star Wars.

[@travisskane5459]

Sure; the artwork is divisive, yet it's the only way to have live action characters and animated characters side by side and have the whole set look unified. Zee pointed out that there are so many unique art pieces (250+) that it would be impossible to have the high quality artwork of their other games, hopefully some of the rough edges will be smoothed out by the third or fourth set. While it is a "TCG" there are many common and uncommon cards that are powerful and staples of the Meta decks, there is plenty of fun to be had without requiring the chase cards. Tom and Roy both stated that most cards they picked up seemed like they could be put into a deck.

[@jflartner117]

this is a great point that I hadn't thought of. I collect topps SW cards, and some of the difference in style for the different characters is jarring at times. The cards for characters from Jedi Outcast, for example, look awful.

[@whiteshark17]

Yet they managed to make it work for Destiny without making the art look like trash. You had characters from all over the spectrum there and the art was largely great and the game was very visually appealing.

[@travisskane5459]

@@whiteshark17 I agree that Destiny looks (subjectively) better. The art direction and graphic design for Unlimited gave me pause initially, but the game play won me over. There's some characters that I wish looked more like the source materials (for example Showcase Sabine); yet given the amount of alternate art promos and FFG's plans for years of support, there will likely be versions of these characters with "better" art someday.

[@popo237]

I traded organized play cards for organized play cards

[@meltingkrayons5830]

Missing Destiny

[@Ryguy0707]

I've been trying to learn TCGs but never found anything I liked. But I am 100% all in for this. I love it

[@muppetjoe870]

Love the game and I'm all in BABY!! WOOOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@ShiYuMeng2]

I disapprove of any game requiring gambling for content.

[@johnblue2270]

I think Lorcana is just a better game that will for sure last longer… maybe I’m wrong but I don’t see One Piece or Lorcana going anywhere. Flesh and Blood also seems here to stay. Then with the big 3 I don’t know if there is room for a 7th popular ccg to take off.

[@marks6928]

Lorcana is probably going to be dead in a couple of years.

[@pierrewhite2062]

Fair review, you guys must try Flesh And Blood for a dual game as well.

[@TruongMtgArenaHearthstone03]

game is alot better than lorcana, lorcana was fun at first then it got stale and boring tbh.

[@grog3514]

10 years ago i would've been all over this game. But I just don't care about Star wars anymore.

[@AkmalGameAtion]

This is the best TCG since MTG and i'm glad yall liked it too!

[@AdamJorgensen]

The argument about the volume of the art being a source of problems from Zee seems kinda bunk to me. Grand Archive has high-quality art on every card. Sorcery! is similar (although whether you like the old school style of the art is a separate issue). Facts are, FFG was lazy as hell with the art for this game, which is unfortunate.

[@PondoSinatra680]

No. If FFG was lazy, they would have reused the artwork from their other SW games. They have done this before with their RPG and the LCG. For this game, they chose to commission new artwork. Not lazy and not cheap either.

[@marks6928]

@@PondoSinatra680100% Nothing lazy about commissioning all new artwork when you already have years of artwork available to you (they made Star Wars LCG, X-Wing, Rebellion, Imperial Assault; would have been easy to grab artwork from those games if they were being lazy).

[@CivilianZero]

Japanese TCGs have tons of different artists but always have a unified look. I’m always put off by how “grab bag” the art in Western games tends to look.

[@AdamJorgensen]

@@PondoSinatra680 Fair enough, maybe I should rather say the look they went for is kinda fugly and "feels" lazy compared to the artwork in some of their other games?

[@jdotco23]

The Star Wars LCG is my #2 all-time (Dominion is 1). I'd rather bust that out again. Now, if they release several more "starter set" boxes that pit two quality decks against each other, I might consider this.

[@MythicosQc74]

I passed on Lorcana because it was simplistic to the point of being boring. This game is the same, sorry to say; and there's no way in Hell that I'm going to invest in a CCG that's overly simple.

[@meepled]

+100 to Joey! Come on enough with the CCG model. Bla bla bla. I will get the stardeck deal.

[@hong_kong_phooey]

Your videos are fun and I like the casual nature but for the love of all that is good in the world please work on your audio. Sounds like it was recorded in a garage with a single microphone.

[@andymcgregortheatre]

Yes this! It happens all the time and makes them unwatchable and is such an easy thing to fix! Please do it....turn that gain DOWN so we can enjoy your brill videos.

[@hong_kong_phooey]

@@andymcgregortheatre I bet you have a solid pair of headphones and good taste in music, my friend. No excuse for bad audio in 2024!

[@odditie]

I hate CCGs, blah blah blah

[@bangazboom9925]

I’ve already got Star Wars The Deckbuilding Game, which is a complete 1v1 skirmish card game that’s awesome. So why would I want this game? Is the only reason this game exists is to offer another Star Wars collectible for all those fans out there? Are there even any fans left with all the changes Disney has made to that universe?

[@popo237]

Game is good, nerd

[@coledelahooke809]

Fedora guy with his “Disney killed muh Star Wars” take….

[@gamera2351]

No matter how good it is, it’s a CCG, so I couldn’t rate it higher than a 7. Joey is absolutely right.

[@marks6928]

It makes no sense. It could literally be the best game in the world, with mind blowing gameplay, and it can’t get above a 7 because of how it’s released? Makes no sense. If you’re not interested in the collecting side, pick up the starter set and nothing else and just play it as a self contained game.

[@Gokkus87]

For me the art really, really hurts the game. I should be really interested in it. But every card, display or packaging I see in the store just turns me off. Add the fact that it is a TCG and I'm out. Glad it's a good game though!

[@randalladkins7452]

Add to this that it’s Fantasy Flight and you know they will end support for it in a year or two as well! (Imperial Assault, Armada, X-wing, Destinies, Eldritch Horror, Mansions of Maddness, …). They just tend to drop product support, unless they relaunch it with a new edition, making you re-buy everything for its revamped rules!

[@AdamJorgensen]

To be fair, Eldritch Horror got more than enough content to keep anyone happy for a good long while...

[@randalladkins7452]

@@AdamJorgensen Sure, but: “Eldritch Horror is not an expansion, nor does it replace Arkham Horror. It is a brand new game, which stands alongside Arkham Horror and the rest of FFG’s library of Lovecraftian games, filling its own distinct niche.” - August 2, 2013 Fantasy Flight Yet they did discontinue Arkham Horror; until later when they discontinued Eldritch Horror and made a new Edition of Arkham Horror. Also, Elder Sign is discontinued in support of Arkham Horror: The Card Game. It’s kinda what they do.

[@marks6928]

@@randalladkins7452They still support Lord of the Rings LCG over 11 years after it was released. Arkham Horror LCG came out in 2016 and they are still releasing expansions for it 8 years later. They supported Netrunner for 6 years, multiple other LCGs (like Warhammer Invasion) for a similar time. So the idea that they “will drop support in a year or two” is just nonsense I’m afraid.

[@surrealroad]

I just prefer games where you can have the complete game.

[@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r]

I helped with the alpha playtesting for this game. My whole group did not like it. And we were not the only ones.

[@marks6928]

Some people didn’t like a game? That’s a heck of a revelation.

[@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r]

@@marks6928 Yep. And game ambassadors like you are always a surprise, too.

[@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r]

@@marks6928 What’s the last game that you playtested?

[@marks6928]

@@Wh0isTh3D0ct0rI’m not advocating for the game, let alone being an ambassador for it, just pointing out that the statement “some people didn’t like this game” means nothing.

[@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r]

@@marks6928 There's a big difference between "some people didn't like this game" and "many of the playtesters did not like this game, but we decided to completely ignore all of that feedback."

[@zsoltnagy3991]

We do not need this game in our life.

[@popo237]

Yes we do, dweebenheimer.

[@markusbiewer2756]

While you do not need this game in your life, others can still play and enjoy it.

[@marks6928]

Hot take: you don’t actually *need* any game in your life. Whether people *want* it or not is another matter….

[@forrestbarrett2376]

Sorry, this game isn’t better than Lorcana. I play both and they scratch a different itch for me. If you like Star Wars more than Disney characters you will tend to like this more, Or vice versa.

[@marks6928]

And if I’m indifferent to both? Are they equally as good? Seems doubtful.

[@fingolfinfinwe]

Way better than Lorcana IMO.

[@AkmalGameAtion]

Nah SWU is easily the better game

[@clanechelon]

Not a fan of the art. They could have done better

[@martinarnold5239]

Utterly bought and paid for review

[@thedicetower]

I'll leave this post up for a bit, just to leave this comment. THIS IS A LIE. Not only was the review not "bought", but the majority of cards I bought with my own money (we only got sent the starter decks by Asmodee).