Star Wars: Villainous - Kylo Ren Guide

[@LordoftheBoard]

General Grievous arrives on 7/28/22 8:15am PST. See you there 🔥

[@ktoon4725]

Depending on how he plays I might main Grievous, he’s one of my favorite Star Wars villains and his objective of collecting lightsabers sounds fun.

[@EclecticCamel]

Let's gooooo

[@camronerl277]

General Greivous is definitly gonna be my favorite, Madam Masque is my favorite of Marvel and Scar is a close second to Gothel so killing heros is very fun for me

[@elliotfong5061]

What music are you playing?

[@TimChuon]

Ok out of all the ones so far, Kylo looks like the one I def wanna try the most! Love how thematic it is for him to move tokens to the dark side 😈

[@LordoftheBoard]

Let’s goooo! Kylo is so much fun. I’m happy with how he turned out. And you’re right! It feels incredibly thematic.

[@burnout713]

Prepare to be disappointed.

[@TomSmith-ll2lp]

@@burnout713 Manbaby alert!

[@TomSmith-ll2lp]

Yeah not to mention you got the most powerful Jedi ever to contend with in your fate deck, Rey Skywalker

[@jarekvelchek802]

Out of all of these characters Kylo definitely has one of the most brutal fate decks. I really love all of his effects to gain so much Ambition and manipulate both decks. And I love his playing piece so much. He is definitely becoming my favorite.

[@LordoftheBoard]

He will be fun 🤩

[@d.j.mcdonald2856]

He is definitely so hard to play. His fate deck destroys me.

[@jarekvelchek802]

@@d.j.mcdonald2856 right

[@ktoon4725]

I’m definitely looking forward to when this set comes out. All these villains look so unique and interesting.

[@LordoftheBoard]

So soon now! :)

[@willbj3989]

How would you compare this to Disney and Marvel?

[@LordoftheBoard]

It’s my favorite edition. But I like all 3 in different ways. However this is my fav version at 2 player

[@jacklightfoot1591]

Kylo was the one I was the most worried about, as I felt a major part of the New Trilogy was that we didn't really know what Kylo's personal objective was throughout the entirety of it. This tug of war seems surprisingly thematic and simple at the same time! (*cough* they finally worked out what they were trying to do with Gaston *cough*)

[@LordoftheBoard]

I think they did a great job dealing with his conflicted nature for sure

[@antonioterraparreiras192]

I was thinking he looked too good until I saw his Fate deck. Rey looks really brutal

[@LordoftheBoard]

Yep! Definitely one where it’s a constant battle between the light and the dark. Super thematic to Kylo

[@burnout713]

Rey is easily the most broken card I've ever encountered in this game. Even if you opponent goes into a real life coma, you may not have enough time to win as Kylo Ren before they recover.

[@joeholmes142]

I am so excited for star wars villainous. I have been a fan of Disney Villainous but I've never been able to get my friends to get into it but they're all really big star wars fans so hopefully this works because villainous is an amazingly fun strategic game

[@LordoftheBoard]

I hope this version turns out perfect for you!

[@stephenandolino]

Big fan of Kylo. Pumped to play this

[@LordoftheBoard]

Yay! Kylo is fun. So this is great to hear

[@coke2434]

I'm loving these reviews you are doing a great work! I'm so hyped for this game I like how they have go a little further in the design of some villains, implementing their own tokens. After playing a lot of the base game Disney Villanous I felt like apart from Prince John the other five depend a lot into going through your deck until you have the card(s) that you need. Kylo Ren is probably the villain I'm more hype about. His mechanic about dark and light side is so in theme.

[@LordoftheBoard]

Thank you so much. And happy to see you enjoy the series! :)

[@elliotfong5061]

This may not be related to star wars, but villainous in general. Will you do Genom next?

[@chrisfoti6984]

For Heart and Strength, once Rey is defeated, what happens to the Restriction? Is Kylo still not allowed move destiny tokens to the Dark Side. Or does the effect come back if Rey is put back into play if the Restriction isn't resolved?

[@LordoftheBoard]

Yep! The effect would come back if Rey ever returns.

[@chrisfoti6984]

@@LordoftheBoard Thank you! That makes the most sense, but isn't super clear on the card.

[@LordoftheBoard]

@@chrisfoti6984 well the card doesnt say to discard when Rey is defeated. It does say to discard when you pay the ambition. And it does say when Rey is in play destiny tokens cannot shift. Pretty clear to me 👍🏽

[@chrisfoti6984]

@@LordoftheBoard right, we just thought it was odd having the Restriction still in play when Rey was defeated, but this definitely makes sense. Thanks! Great videos!

[@kyleroberts4603]

Yeah glad I found this comment, I was about to ask exactly what that restriction meant. It was a little confusing

[@theabsentfriend4002]

I preordered the game!! It won’t arrive till next week. 😢 Great video again, friend! 😁

[@LordoftheBoard]

Thank you! And yes. So soon 🔥🔥

[@EclecticCamel]

I was gonna wait for the inevitable sale but I may just need to grab this. Dangit Sam.

[@LordoftheBoard]

It is my favorite version. 🥹 most balanced 2 player experience the game has seen. And it’s fun! Art is awesome too. Would love to play with you on stream or something?

[@lorenzomartinez2265]

THANK YOI FOR ALL OF THESE VIDEOS. I am a huge fan of disney and marvel villainous. But now with star wars, this game is incredible. Even tho star wars villainous didn't even come out yet, I would like oogie boogie and shere khan in the next disney villainous. Who would you want?

[@LordoftheBoard]

I would love to see Shan Yu, and Frollo :)

[@truerockfan]

I'll be honest, as excited to finally play (I scored the last copy my Target had lol), I have to say I am a bit disappointed in the piece aesthetics, specifically Grievous lol Also, I feel like Cad Bane would have been an amazing addition to the game, and I am hoping we get an expansion that is either all Bounty Hunters (Cad included) or the classic Sith Lords. It could be damn awesome to see Darth Bane and be able to drop a card called The Rule of Two lol

[@glitchwarrior7270]

guess who showed up

[@truerockfan]

@@glitchwarrior7270 yep. Have that expansion lol

[@Tyler_Ruben05]

Great video today 👍

[@LordoftheBoard]

Thank you Tyler :)

[@Tyler_Ruben05]

@@LordoftheBoard ofc

[@coolguysoup2486]

I’m excited for this edition. It looks like a completely different game compared to the rest of villainous

[@LordoftheBoard]

It is a fun elevated Villainous. Personally it is my fav.

[@perry6762]

Any reference to Palpatine makes me cringe now lol but this villain might be the most interesting for me so far! Super excited to play

[@LordoftheBoard]

Yeah.. somehow he returned

[@notforstreams9203]

So, I know I am late, but I just started and Kylo feels like "trash your hand until snoke, use your ambition each turn to move to the dark side, hope no one sees you." Am I missing something, because Kylo doesn't seem to care about his deck at all, save for snoke.

[@LordoftheBoard]

Very much his playstyle!

[@jaxx4330]

Great video! Im am surprised Captain Phasma wasn’t an ally card. Maybe because she isn’t really all that memorable

[@LordoftheBoard]

Interesting that you remembered her if she wasn’t all that memorable 😂 my hope is she is her own villain. 🔥

[@jaxx4330]

@@LordoftheBoard Very interesting take! So if she did become a villain what do you think her objective would be? Its been so long since I’ve seen the sequels so I don’t really remember her purpose. 😂

[@LordoftheBoard]

@@jaxx4330 I would like to see her do missions - like a bounty hunter with the new mission system! That would be sick. Getting Finn and rose to a certain location. Loading up Stormtrooper’s in a certain location. Idk lots of cool stuff. But I see her as a multitask mission type villain.. also I just thought of this but she may appear in a Hux deck

[@stybbafirefoot]

I agree, probably going to be a separate villain - there’s no Finn hero card in Kylo’s deck so might be saving him for a Phasma expansion.

[@thestrangercreator4376]

Kylo looks to play similar to Gaston. He has such a ruthless fate deck though….

[@LordoftheBoard]

Really great character :)

[@robertosalinas1659]

Played Kylo and almost won a few times in a game. Only lost because I was trying not to signal super hard that I would win on my next turn and forgot to use my fate action.

[@LordoftheBoard]

Great job! So so close

[@Z-Strike026]

Sure hope we get a shirtless Kylo on one of his cards...

[@elliotfong5061]

It's so sad that Disney messed up alot of Disney movies and shows. Also sad that Star Wars episodes 7 through 9 wasn't decent.

[@elliotfong5061]

Control Rey, and opponents can't hit you horribly

[@burnout713]

Do you have any more specific advice there. It's obviously very difficult to prevent her from coming out at some point and the Restriction lets the opponents use her again. You can leave her on the board, but "controlling her" seems like a stretch.

[@elliotfong5061]

The restriction can't play her if she is already in the realm. Use the Command Shuttle and place her.

[@burnout713]

Kylo Ren is easily the weakest and least fun character I have ever played in Villainous. His Fate deck absolutely crushes him and the Rey/Heart and Strength combo is essentially insurmountable unless you're playing against a glacier, even if you have Snoke on the field for the entire game. Today my girlfriend and I learned that even if Rey is already in play and Heart and Strength is played, the opponent gets to "play" Rey again, essentially doubling her already broken effect, so even if you don't defeat her so she doesn't go back into the discard pile, she can still totally derail Kylo's progress. I've never seen anyone play this character that didn't want to give up on the entire game by the end.

[@LordoftheBoard]

Sounds like you are misunderstanding some rules. I just got back from Gencon and Kylo was winning games. I just watched the Watch it played channel and Kylo won that game too. Idk what to tell you. There is a group of people on the villainous discord that actually think Kylo is too strong. 🤔

[@burnout713]

@@LordoftheBoard What did I say that isn't in line with the rules?

[@unbrandedpower1343]

The fates are rough however I found it best not to vanquish Rey or Leia. Less of a chance for them to be used again in the fate deck so you can focus on going to the dark side. Yes they block part of your board but Luke can help if someone plays him as he makes allies go to one place on the board. Kylo is pretty strong if you know how to manipulate your fate deck.

[@burnout713]

@@unbrandedpower1343 That is the strategy I've tried to employ as well, but with Heart and Strength, one of the two can evidently use their abilities again even if they are in play thanks to the way "find" works in Villainous. Keeping Leia and Rey on the field is possible, but there's really no way around getting rid of Heart and Strength since it blocks you from moving Rey's alignment tokens, which means it can just keep getting circulated into the Fate deck continuously. Wouldn't be a problem if Kylo could end games quickly, but in my experience basically nobody in Star Wars Villainous can really sprint to the end like some Disney Villainous characters can.

[@burnout713]

@@LordoftheBoard This response has been a big talking point in my friend's group. We've really taken a love to Villainous, but with five games played as Kylo across various players, none of us have won with him. He is, in fact, the only Star Wars Villainous character yet to pick up a win. Assaj Ventress, meanwhile, is undefeated.