Commander VS S6E4: Yisan vs Reya vs Dwynen vs Laquatus [MTG]

[@zacknewton9696]

Spoiler if you did not watch till the end but with the elf damage Dwynen is a 3/4 and elf druid is a 2/2. Dwynen gives elf druid +1/+1 making it a 3/3. Elvish Arc-druid give Dwynen and elf druid +1/+1 making them a 4/5 and a 4/4. then DoD with 12 counters (John missed Elvish Arc-druid) gives them +12/+12 into a 16/17 and a 16/16. Then overrun's +3/+3 makes them 19/20 and 19/19. Overwhelming Stamped would then give all creatures +19/+19 because the largest power John controlled was 19. this makes Dwynen a 38/39 trample and elf druid a 38/38 trample. Totaling to 76 damage and Jeremy only able to block 22 of the damage means Jeremy would take 54 damage and be at -12.

[@jeremysarsonful]

Zack Newton didn't see this

[@Valdreag17]

Zack Newton I did the math as well, you are correct. Math is, in fact, hard.

[@Skydragonace]

@@Valdreag17 I did not do the math, but I can confirm, that math is in fact, hard.

[@Reaperherpderp]

The pure joy Stephen had this episode made me happy

[@michaelsmallpalace720]

Man, this was hands down one of the best Commander VS ever! It was so fun watching Stephen making Justin's life a milling hell.

[@clelvis225]

That's it Suarez, I warned you last week about Winter Orb....meet me in the parking lot behind SCG headquarters at 7pm tonight with every single copy of Winter Orb that SCG currently has in stock, I have to be sure you don't have access to it ever again...in fact, I want all the copies of Rising Waters, Vorinclex, Back To Basics, Choke, Hokori and Static Orb too...if you fail to comply I will have no choice but to take the extreme measure of forcing you to watch every single DesolatorMagic video from start to finish...

[@jonathansuarez3259]

Cash Me Ousside. HowBow Dah?

[@Vigilanchovy]

clelvis225 Why would you do that to yourself?

[@Kestral287]

Don't do it. You mess with #DonJonSuarez, your lands never untap again.

[@ankhi3585]

Well at least he can still play stasis, storm cauldron and brine elemental.

[@Chosen1_of.the.NONexistent_God]

+clelvis225 It will only cost you 3,876.97$ for Star City to be back-order on all of those 6 cards ;)

[@Keevaqt]

Who are the five best rappers of all time? Think about it. Dwynen, Dwynen, Dwynen, Dwynen and Dwynen. Because I spit hot fire!

[@JParnell1]

This guy gets it.

[@lorenzotii1989]

CarpeDeezNutz she spits and she ryhme. she ryhme and she rips. that's the hot fire that DWYEN spits.lol.

[@118bone]

OH Core Set challenge, not corset challenge, oh well

[@markmetz6323]

they should have all had to wear corsets

[@vazhkatsi]

oh good, not just me

[@118bone]

only cards that have corsets in the art

[@mattie5097]

a corset challenge would be funny to see , it could be art related or cmc related or maybe mechanic related somehow

[@Slothery]

"corset challenge, and it's exactly what you think it is." Uhhh...

[@hanu88]

Probably the best episode thus far. Keep going commander versus #TeamGreen

[@kandjar]

Oh my gosh where to start... So after getting very addicted to this channel, I decided to go back in time and watch the old games, this one is by far my favorite. Hearing Stephen cracking up was so good, I laughed so hard toward the end of this episode... [SPOILER BELOW] The best move for this episode is attributed to........ JON for the best use of Ashnod's Altar. Using Ashnod's Altar to cast his commander 3 times within a turn in order to get an extra point, so good!!! :D Best memorable moment: the mana leak play! :-)

[@Crystyn7B]

This episode was absolutely fantastic. Misplays included we all make 'em

[@vincegod1996]

Stephen's win was fantastic didn't stop laughing at the end of the video XD

[@teenageidol99]

This week we are playing another interesting theme: Make Jeremy feel less included because he does not have a beard. Please make him a "Beard" themed deck if he refuses to grow a real beard.

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) 1. You don't want to see me try to grow a beard. It's not pleasant. 2. I actually made a beard deck and ended up playing it for one of the Random videos :p kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXWyqn5tfsmbaJI

[@salamanderonhere]

Matt Simpson Knew

[@Sangraven13]

John's reaction to the first strike deathtouch was my favourite part of this episode.

[@justinkoontz6612]

Pure gold! Loved every minute of this start to finish. ..........Sorry director. ;-;

[@TheReal_birbwizard]

Justin Koontz Stephen is my hero now. #TeamRisingTides

[@RangerOfSociety]

Justin Koontz That first omniscience had me in stitches XD

[@Zomgwtfbbq1228]

this show is the best mtg content on youtube hands down.

[@lievenheirbaut4403]

When Jer drew that WOG, and the camera zoomed in: I fell from my chair, laughing like a little kid XD

[@midn8588]

I love the reno jackson picture on resolute archangel. "We're gonna be rich!"

[@Szykielet]

Is it only me or they are missing Chasm Skulker triggers every second time?

[@bailey3562]

Szykielet idk about that but I do know they say "CHasm" skulker rather than "Kasm Skulker"

[@2Saturos]

I'm 23 minutes in and he has already missed 2 triggers on it!

[@2Saturos]

ah Justin caught one for Stephen.

[@kenjames91680]

he missed a ton of triggers, it got to the point that other people decided to do it for him.

[@Kizer5Red]

every time he draws from jace he forgets chasm skulker

[@troytrain5363]

I get the wolf cola reference, and just wanted to say that's pretty hilarious!! 😂😂😂

[@reccaman]

Tbh, this was one my favourite eps so far. I love this

[@jakobhammerschmidt6122]

Don't you think I didn't see that Reno face on the Resolute Archangel! I love you.

[@2o7o7dragon]

*SPOILER* Calling you on it Suarez 2:13:02, here it is, with errors. Around 1:52:30 Suarez puts 4 counters on Door of Destinies even though he only casts Dwynen 3 times. Going to be factoring that in to the calculation of Suarez's Damage to Jeremy. So, at time of overrun being cast, Suarez has Thragtusk = 5/3 , Dwynen = 3/4, +11/+11 from Door and +1/+1 from Archdruid = 15/16, and Civic Wayfinder = 2/2, +11/+11 from Door, +1/+1 from Archdruid, and +1/+1 from Dwynen = 15/15. Then with Overrun they become Thragtusk 8/6, Dwynen 18/19, and Wayfinder 18/18. So then Overwhelming Stampede gives them all +18/+18 = Thragtusk 26/24, Dwynen 36/37, and Wayfinder 36/36. Double Trample of course. I believe Jeremy's math is correct, though I'm not sure if Steven didn't give Ajani's Pridemate an extra counter when Jeremy gained life off of Elixer of Immortality around the 2 hour mark. It definitely has 1 counter before and 3 counters after and I think it's only supposed to gain a counter for each instance of life gain. However, Jeremy doesn't increase the Pridemate's counters after gaining 4 life off Trading post so that error self corrects. Ergo Jeremy can still only block 22 damage, Suarez directs 72 at him, and Jeremy takes 50 damage for 4th place.

[@jeremysarsonful]

2o7o7dragon Suarez missed two Triggers on doors of Destiny won the first time when he crashed Reclamation Sage than it was countered and put to the top of his library and the second was when you cast Elvish archdruid

[@Kettwiesel25]

You did not consider that one of the counters on the door of destinies got there after Overwhelming Stampede was cast. And I think the extra counter from Stephen was an Ajani Plus counter, so it is legitimate.

[@Aliani]

Jeej Stephen. thought this was going nowhere in the beginning but I'm so glad you made it!

[@hnjahnjah]

Honestly,i was at the edge of my seat the whole video,hoping stephen pulls it off! AND BOY DID HE PULL IT OFF! You SIR DESERVE A COOKIE! The whole game i thought to myself "surely he must have Omniscience in the deck...when is he going to get it?!" and not only did he play it once,but TWICE! And all of them collectively hated on him,and he STILL MADE IT! And the banter at the end of the video? PRICELESS! Best Commander VS video so far :D For the next challenge maybe make a Block specific commanders? Or maybe Color restriction? I mean by ART color restriction (you can only play cards that have a specific color in the ART) on top of having the normal commander color restriction (maybe too hard of a filter?)

[@Milohenry13]

Sick TOOL t-shirt Stephan!

[@dk4797]

This is probably my favorite commander VS video of all time

[@justinlauzon4252]

Shout out to Stephen's shirt, 'cause, you know, were ALL waiting for that new Tool album...

[@MrCrazymunky]

I guess I understand why you guys were miserable shooting this for hours, but a long game just means I get more Commander VS for this week. So as far as I'm concerned, best episode ever.

[@jumpanama]

Stephen could have gotten every land out of his deck with Solemn, Archaeomancer and the bounce spell

[@marcusreid6461]

Still doesn't get old. Still love the show 4 years later.

[@danpk1977]

This may have been one of my favorite episodes to date. Hilarious.

[@Azraell01]

That episode was awesome so much fun to watch the salt level just grow and grow. Stephen at his absolute best. LOVED IT ^_^

[@jamesarnquist8103]

Fantastic game guys! I have never cared less about errors or miss-plays. I was rolling on the floor by the end!! Pure gold.

[@Bcdeano]

Core set Magic...creature combat and battlecruiser. Just how wizards intended core sets to be lol. This game was much more entertaining than I thought...one of my favorites actually. Didn't realize so many good cards were in the core sets. Awesome video guys!

[@magnuslittle6631]

I'm fairly certain that Abundance prevents you from being milled out! What a miss

[@kingfuzzy2]

You are correct most draw replacement effects do this.

[@ninjadave3281]

This is my favorite Commander VS by far! I loved it!

[@TrilainaBloodwind]

Not going to lie... this is a pretty funny episode, if only for the fact that Stephen Green's reaction to milling people out was priceless. This was one of the LONGEST games, but was worth the watch :D

[@CalderaWolf]

you guys should play archenemy and have whoever is in first place be the archenemy

[@tigerwarrior1787]

Sounds like a good thing to do in the off season.

[@kastormener]

alex richman better idea. Get another person and get these 4 against a special guest for Archenemy. Maybe see if Danny West can play?

[@JuelAndersen]

5:00 Remember that Instill Energy won't let you use either Yisan or the Priest as though they had haste. The Energy will only let you attack with them as though they had haste. Oracle text for reference. Keep up the good work!

[@Demon1990146]

Might have been long, but quite hilarious this week. You always find a way to keep it interesting. haha

[@marctownsend2333]

That made me laugh so hard. Too many memories of games that went on way longer than they should. I'm happy I watched until the end, but damn Stephen you had me cackling

[@Dr0ctober]

great game. I love episodes with set restrictions. do more of these! :)

[@lol76870]

Saw an interesting thing about effects like banishing priest and banishing light (not oblivion ring etc). You can actually put your commander in the command zone and still get it back when banisher priest dies, because it's a contineous effect that find's it as long as the replaced zone is an open one. Just didn't know if you guys knew. ( 22:30 ) Good content by the way. Love this series :) PS: Sorry for bad grammar. Not native english-speaker :)

[@TheJustist]

I really like mill decks. I also like Justins reaction on them. Great episode, all in all!

[@brentclark8453]

This was the best commander vs game of all time!! Love watching parnell getting milled

[@loganschlatre2579]

That. That made my day. Thank you all for suffering through that.

[@sandman423]

That was an Amazing game...I enjoyed every minute of it and it is nice to see a lengthy game because we only get this once a week. Keep up the great work. Play a ton of green creatures with triple mana you deserve to have your stuff bounced :) Great work guys. Go Team Green! :) #ChestStache #GreenTeam Always funny to see the interaction between Stephen Green and Justin.

[@alistairgraham3643]

I actually really enjoyed this one! I liked the fact that Stephen as the enabler made sure that pretty much everyone got to do their thing (except Jeremy didn't get to do it as much as the other three, sadly).

[@SMorgenstern73]

Omnicience, Archeomancer, Sanctum, and Evacuation, allows Stephen to Scry his entire deck. Leak his own Azure Mage, and Rewind the Leak. Untap 4 islands. 6 mana total. Use 1 to discard land, draw the frost titan. Loop again with Evacuation, freezing all permanents the opponents control. Scry to 4 hard counterspells, using trade routes to draw them. Counterspell, Desertion, Dissipate, Call to mind (get back Rewind), and Talrand. Play Talrand, before using Call to mind. Attack with Stormtide+Drakes every turn. Evacuation+Frost Titan+Archaeomancer prevents everyone else from ever having mana.

[@xerkesaarrious9546]

I'd love to see a game where y'all all play the same General, but with different builds of it. I think it would be cool to see how y'all build your decks differently, I feel like it would show each of your perspectives on how you approach deck building, like I could see if you were all playing Sentriplets Justin might go for a recursion strategy, Stephen would probably play a stompy version, Jeremy might play a combo, and Jonathan may play a control version. I'm not saying it has to be sentriplets, or that I want y'all to play those versions, its merely an example, but I think something along this lines would be cool. I love the show and I can't wait to see what y'all play next!

[@Boboioioili]

I'd like to see an episode with the theme of hidden commanders, in that, you play a deck based around a legendary creature but the actual creature in the command zone contains more colors than the main legend does. An example of this would be Josh Lee Kwai's (from the Command Zone Podcast) 5-color Marchesa, the Black Rose deck. I just think this is a really interesting and fun deck building theme.

[@letzgoterps]

This was amazing. Thank you Stephen Green!!

[@kelm102]

Shoutout to Stephen with the Shinedown lyrics. Wasn't expecting to hear 45 in a Commander VS video.

[@fatalbert357]

1:32:28 Best argument ever between Justin and Jon. It sounded like they reverted back to being 5 year old's with their banter, love it

[@E035730]

Haven't read the comments to see if has been worked out but, here goes: Dwynen starts at 3/4 and gets +1/+1 from Archdruid so 4/5 -> then +11/+11 from Door of Destinies so 15/16 -> then +3/+3 from Overrun so 18/19 -> then +18/+18 from Overwhelming Stampede so 36/37 -> then a final +1/+1 from the Door of Destinies due to the Elf cast after Overwhelming Stampede so 37/38. Short version: Door: +12, Archdruid: +1, Overrun: +3, Stampede: +18, Total: +34/+34 The Civic Wayfinder gets all the same buffs as Dwynen plus an additional +1/+1 from Dwynen herself. Total: +35/+35 and ends as a 37/37 Total Power: 74 Total Toughness: 22 Total Damage: 52 Total Result: 1 Dead Jeremy :D

[@neojetangel]

Funny interaction, milling out someone with Abundance on the field doesn't work. You can choose to use the replacement effect with no cards in library instead of drawing. So you'll never loose the game that way.

[@jakeschreiner8567]

Jonathan didn't die from having no cards because of abundance

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

As soon as John played that, I knew. I knew he wasn’t going to realize.

[@kingfuzzy2]

What a relief

[@r4g1ngph03n1x]

This video is one tiny typo away from drawing a very different crowd. Core set challenge or Corset challenge? :p

[@JParnell1]

You'll have to watch until the end to find out

[@shawnbishoplaf]

Keith Weidner when Parnell said core set I heard corset and I'm like no I don't know what's about to happen

[@WhiteWizard42]

[autocard] Ladies' Knight [/autocard] Wizards is well aware of the word similaritites.

[@alexwilson4542]

It's 6:40 in the fricking morning. I dunno why the crap I decided to watch this video at 4 but I don't even care cos the ending was worth it.

[@Phoenix2215]

As a #TEAMGREEN member, this is my favorite episode in all of Commander VS history. That total control/mill victory was hilarious.

[@DahRhker13]

Where do you all get your dice from? I can tell there are two different kinds of white dice being used this video, I particularly like the ones with the pointier vertices and larger dots - they look particularly chunky and satisfying, would love to get some of them for myself!

[@johnyedinak1180]

this is probably my favorite vs series video ever

[@vipper57779]

this was actually one of my favoritre games recently. it was fun to watch even if the math was crazy. also it was great seeing stephen play blue fun stuff instead of red or green beatdowns lol

[@loonar7960]

Here's an idea. They should get headsets with one headphone. Someone should watch the camera as they play and if they miss a trigger or otherwise misplay, that person informs them via headset. I don't know how doable it is since you may have to edit out some audio, but it'd be a lot less frustrating for viewers. Alternatively you could all pay closer attention to the board state. Love you guys, but it drives me a little nuts.

[@alexandermacdonald8475]

That was one of the best in a while. Gave me one hell of a chuckle... though I didn't like seeing so many replicates between the two green but she well. Steven find a way to play mill again with Kraum, just for Justin's salt

[@alicecarter2997]

I honestly thought Justin said Corset originally, and was very confused.

[@sethpeters7362]

2:31 is incorrect. Suarez played Nissa in the very first episode of the first season, and dominated I might add.

[@Tantrumspam]

Suarez, you can't die to mil with abundance out! .....but f thhat noise #TEAM GREEN "If your library is empty, Abundance can prevent you from losing the game for being unable to draw a card. If an effect or turn-based action would cause you to draw a card, you can replace that draw with Abundance’s replacement effect. (It doesn’t matter that you’d be unable to actually draw a card.) Since Abundance’s effect has you put a card into your hand instead of drawing a card, you’ll never be forced to draw a card with an empty library."

[@Slothery]

I think an interesting one-time rule for a week could be that you don't lose from having 0 or less life. It would make commander damage one of the few ways to win. Alternate win cons like Helix Pinnacle or Azor's Elocutors would also be pretty cool to see in use. (Also mill hehe) Maybe this would be better in a special episode, but I think it could be interesting.

[@malakbigs1563]

Just saw the thumbnail and I am so happy Jeremy is playing my main commander! Reya is beya!

[@ziozioziozi]

That Reno Jackson edit made me LOL xD

[@xyphertyme9355]

this is by far one of my favorite episodes ever

[@neo120590]

Thank you for the Reno Jackson photoshop on the Resolute Archangel. Also loved how long this was. I'm sure it kinda sucks after a while but more please.

[@stie3228]

I said it last week too. You guys should try Legends commanders. Also i haven't really seen any pillowfort or superfriends from you guys. Keep up the good work!

[@benjaminwhisenhunt5777]

even though it was 2 hours I thoroughly enjoyed this episode xD

[@SCOOL8896]

@Johnathan Suarez Assuming I am doing this right and following the order from which you cast your spells, your attacking total is 119. I may be off by some since I am assuming the other attacker is an elf and a 2/2. Correct me if I am wrong. By the way love the series, I have your playmat. Thank you and keep having fun.

[@zargon15]

The Math, Gwynden is a 3/4 getting plus 12 then another 3 before overwhelm, which makes it a 36/37 the 2/2 being a 35/35 and when you cast another elf bringing it to 37/38 + 36/36 which is 73 damage total. But there was a missed trigger from Elvish Archdruid. counting that makes the damage 77

[@CrowHagen1986]

Stephen Green Good Job loved to watch the whole game and love seeing all of you're opponents suffer :D GZ

[@Jake-rp4pe]

Great.... Thanks Steven Green, now I am going to have Shinedown stuck in my head all day.

[@pablija5]

i dont want to be that guy but abundance prevents you from getting milled

[@AuraXars]

Pablija Dragonborn wait whaaat how?

[@pablija5]

Lukas.Ericsson it replaces your draw with naming a type of card, then if you dont find that type you shuffle the rest of the cards and lose that draw

[@kernunnok9503]

You don't actually shuffle. If you don't find a card of the named type you actually get to stack your deck. It is useful with 8 cards in hand and Gitrog Monster.

[@kellyhoesing2573]

Yeah, it's pretty amusing. If they remembered, Stephen had a Trade Post in play and a Perilous Vault in the Graveyard to recur and wipe it out.

[@naphackDT]

I doubt he could have beaten stephen even with abundance preventing him from getting milled.

[@TerabyteArt]

i cant believe i just watched the entire thing in one go at 3am-5am... look what you did. haha

[@brianzilles784]

Thanks so much Suarez, that was amazing. And amazing job Stephen. #TeamSuarez

[@Distractioninja]

I sat through till the end, and I kept laughing at the antics of Jon and Justin scrambling for points. Good politics, keep up the humor folks!

[@Evilkritter]

Justin pulled my primary commander deck pair for the random draft! Now I'm looking forward to seeing if he ends up going with the meek-stone (sub)theme I use, or something completely different.

[@bjornhuizer6211]

stephen rocks with this deck i had a great time watching you guys got humor greetings from holland

[@markferguson1782]

Best video ever. Whenever Parnell loses his mind it is a good day.

[@MrTfield91]

Stephen Green you made my week. The amount of salt you farmed was beautiful.

[@coyoteflavouring]

Watched to the end, didn't even nap. I loved watching Justin get increasingly more frustrated all the way up till he realized his misplay XD #teamgreen

[@EmersonJ_]

that was an epic game. and Justin's particular brand of salt was hilarious

[@AlexBalhatchet]

That was rough, kinda impressed that i watched the whole thing to be honest :P Turns out core sets are missing some key effects huh? Looking forward to the partner commanders next week :D

[@BenDy3223]

Parnell with the Making the Band reference, I see you.

[@kingjames3943]

i loved this! that was so good and so hilarious!!! keep it up

[@Lost77]

Oh, "Core Set" challenge. I thought you said Corset challenge. And now that I said that out loud, I was not trying to reference Ladies Knight... I was just thinking like "... I don't think Yisan wears a corset... does he?"

[@kallemon]

One of my absolute favorite episodes!

[@jimcaplice1882]

This was beautiful. Stephen Green is the button pressing king

[@mastaflyer1]

I actually watched the whole thing. over 3 days... exhausted

[@jmcalcy69]

John: I'm going to attack Justin and Jeremy Top 10 Anime Betrayals

[@wulf_95]

I love these two hour games! I know you hate me for saying it, guys, but please do silly things like this more.

[@B_Shady42]

Go team Green! That was hilarious! Awesome job Stephen!!!

[@morris9703]

Flipping Nissa when you play a land isn't a may ability.

[@SonAlexander]

I would like to PERSONALLY thank Stephen Green for building a Mill deck and MILLING Justin Parnell for the 4th time on commander vs. Watching Justin squirm is the funniest thing on KZbin. I laughed entirely too hard at this video.