Commander VS S7E8: Wrexial vs Rakdos vs Zur vs Feldon [MTG]

It all comes down to this! As our fantastic Commander foursome square off with fan requests, who will finagle the finale, and who will score enough points to be crowned champion of the season?
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[@TheTexasDice]

For season 8, I would love a commander game with you guys picking non-legendary creatures as your commanders. I vote for Justin playing Stuffy Doll, because Stuffy Doll says: "Whenever Stuffy Doll is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to Stephen Green."

[@severisyrjala2175]

And Stephen could play burn tribal with Hostility as commander

[@jessespeers5357]

Dryad Arbor confirmed

[@Lucan-io6ie]

_Penny Dreadful_ Commander with non legendary commanders.

[@Dethmoose24]

Pauper Commander would be a great episode.

[@ImScoutyAndILikeToScout]

They did Pauper Commander already tho

[@bruxonn12]

For next season, I'd like all of you to pick a movie and build your deck completely in the theme of that movie.

[@Tedurbin202]

They did something like that a while back. It was right when Jeremy first came in a few seasons ago. I don't remember all of them, but I do know that Justin was playing Alesha, who smiles at death. The deck was based off kill bill, with Alesha being the bride, and there were exactly 5 other legendary creatures in the deck, 4 of them being the viper assassination team, and one being bill himself, obviously.

[@goretoriumgaming8600]

The matrix dimir deck!

[@LovedandTheLover]

White Black Red for Kung Fury!

[@SCGCommander]

(Kyle) The finale is finally here! Who will win season 7? Who has the sweetest fan submitted deck? Who will mill Parnell?

[@fragbaitbeta]

Star City Games was really hoping for a finale of parnel getting milled but when his library was gone he somehow suicided like job did a few episodes back.

[@ThePitchyPorgy]

Star City Games Love, love, love the content... but you know what? The way this season has worked out, its screaming out for an Archenemy Commander with, my vote at least, either Stephen or Justin!

[@BenchForAllTheMarbles]

I have an idea for an episode next season: Play with a deck whose commander became (or was previously) a planeswalker, besides the Origins walkers. Off the top of my head, I know of Karn, Narset, Xenagos, and Samut. Of course, you need to play the planeswalker in the deck.

[@Kizer5Red]

Animar and/or Kaalia decks please

[@kappadoom]

don't forget the big bad dragon, Bolas ;)

[@justinnelson5760]

I love watching y'all play it helps me add new cards into my edh deck

[@Milohenry13]

54:00 @Steven, Altar of the Brood triggers off of any permanent (except itself) including lands...

[@MestHoop]

20:28 man, I was gonna wait to comment before I finished the video, but that had me laughing so hard!

[@cklise]

I just viewed that chain of events, and it was truly beautiful; like witnessing a unicorn.

[@bryceknoch413]

I love Commander vs, been watching since season 1, always Team Wes for life

[@zimmermanjohn3797]

Bryce Knoch yes same!!

[@bryceknoch413]

#wisemove

[@adtpg1348]

#Wisemove They need a tribute episode, where someone has cryptic command as their commander

[@bryceknoch413]

Adtpg Simic 99 cryptic commands and Tefiri as the general

[@adtpg1348]

definitely, should we splash green for oracle of mul daya?

[@m3grim]

1:01:00 C'mon now, Wrexial doesn't come back until Justin's end step. Can't have Lightning Greaves equipped.

[@aleclevine666]

See this is so much better because Justin isnt just being targeted from the beginning

[@tristanshutter7560]

Stephan, that was some slick negotiating with the wheel of Fortune.

[@cameron185]

You guys should continue what you are doing until the end of time you make my life

[@BrunoCasagrandaNeves]

Oh Gosh, next season we are expecting at least 26 episodes... We NEED paper commander videos!! Thanks guys, awesome!

[@anthonywitowsky7109]

Just wanted to say I've been watching since the 2013 commander precons were on scg and I have never missed a video since, amazing job thank you for your guy's time, keep up the amazing work and can someone play a poison deck please thank you

[@johnmclane4785]

I run a Zur deck with the same idea to use astral slide for early defense and then cycle into combo cards. The deck is quite different from the one you played last time, but I got the idea from you Suarez!

[@malakbigs1563]

The Force of Will and Liliana of The Veil mill from the alter of the Brood made me giggle.

[@Natheirean]

for the tiebreaker between Stephen and Jeremy, you should do a 2HG match with Stephen/John vs. Jeremy/Justin

[@Binga81]

Hungover as hell and this is the only thing getting me through the day. Love you guys, although I am all about Team Parnell!

[@leoskucera3655]

Lol I have immediately searched for 10h of silence as the video ended. I couldnt believe it.

[@tyrannotycoon]

You guys should do all five colour decks, however there's a catch. You can only use multicoloured spells from different guilds of Ravnica to make your deck. So for example, Justin could play Dimir, Gruul, and Azorius coloured cards for his five colours. Jeremy could do Golgari, Boros, and Simic. Etc etc.

[@PenThoPlayer]

Partner Planeswalkers seems like a good set of rules for Commander on one game. Each player picks 2 Planeswalkers as commanders, and then runs 98 cards, so it's simple.

[@afish8883]

3 years later and partner planeswalkers are about to exist

[@richardcole2603]

thanks for another season guys! keep it up, always look forward to your videos

[@poppytb9602]

I love these videos. All of you guys play off of each other really well, but my favorite dynamic would have to be between Justin and Steven. The revenge strike on Justin had to be done! It's the principle of the matter! I have a deck I'd like to see you play Steven. Lazav, Dimir Mastermind. #teamgreen

[@edwingranito4771]

Love this series opens my eyes to many new cards

[@Akiren_Nevara]

Following the release of Hour of Devastation, there will be four planeswalker cards in three colors. Two Nicol Bolas, Tamiyo, and Sarkhan. How about a week where you guys play them as your commanders.

[@NoneNotEvenSome]

Justin sticks the boots on Wrexial, despite it being exiled until EoT with Astral Slide at @1:00:00 ? Good episode either way

[@diamonddudeygo]

Just came to the comments section to say this lol

[@ImaginationHobbies]

stephen rewinding the rewind was the best play of the game

[@liampake8545]

Loved the season guys

[@lathier]

Justin should play Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. Just cast your commander and draw cards, killing everyone with the ability from him

[@stonepatberg]

let's go team suarez!!!

[@ExtremisGames]

big fan of the zur cycle deck, not sure if it's been suggested before but next season I would love to see you guys go at it with a 4 horse of the Apocalypse theme, or even better you each have a theme of the 7 deadly sins and your decks theme is the sin your most guilty of

[@ExtremisGames]

also wanted to say big fan of the show, been one of the few things keeping me sane while I'm on a twice extended business trip

[@Punintentionally]

Another vote for a champion. Love these videos. Wish there were enough cards for Un-commander

[@ethansouza5457]

Awesome season guys! Looking forward to season 8!

[@liamwood2878]

I'm glad this episode was a fair game no focusing on a single person. Stephan was a good boy not targeting Justin early on but after Jonathan saved Stephan, Stephan had every right to target lmao Great season finale!

[@johns832]

legendary boats! legacy weapon, predator flagship, and the 2 legendary vehicles.

[@KalebAsmadi]

Let's get on with the end of the season!

[@paralykeet-]

1:07:50 All at Parnell! You know in your heart Steven that it has come to this! (Going to go press play now for imminent disappointment... probably.)

[@akaEtoo]

rule suggestion, milling justin is a point. Also best season yet!

[@zachhannah8927]

That noise is the MVP of the entire season.

[@Milohenry13]

Batman Forever easily has the best soundtrack. Mazzy Star, Method Man, Offspring, U2, The Flaming Lips, and the list goes on... 33:17

[@KromeDrone]

Did Jon Astral Slide Nighthowler or Wrexial near 58:45? Cuz if it was Wrexial, then he couldnt equip his greaves after combat.

[@Emperorerror]

Can only astral slide creatures, so it must've been Wrexial

[@donaldpurkey1864]

Altar of the Brood. "Just a card".....That I killed all my opponents with last week in my Omnath deck, the turn after my opponent ultimated her Tamiyo, the Moon Sage. I used Zuran Orb to sacrifice my lands, then used Splendid Reclamation to get them all back, causing exactly 40 triggers on all of my stuff that mattered. Milled them all out instantly. :)

[@estebanlotto4139]

Great deck, Jonathan! >:D

[@TimoTheDwarf]

It would be interesting to blend a hearthstone style element into Commander, Like being able to have a sorcery with cmc less than 3 or 2 that is in your command zone that you can cast once per turn. Like that is your Planeswalker's cantrip, his go to spell that he just knows off by heart.

[@Cincada2]

Haven't watched it yet, but I noticed Steven's deck list doesn't have Sundial of the Infinite. Old man Jenkins Feldon without the Sundial? I am disappointed Mr. Green.

[@heartwoodmtg9246]

I used to play Sundial in my Feldon deck, but took it out. It just didn't do enough.

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

Honestly, this was one of the poorer Feldon decks I've seen...this one is particularly deadly tappedout.net/mtg-decks/feldon-targaryen/

[@Cincada2]

HeartwoodMtG having played it in mine for a good while I can officially say that exiling the end of turn effect once it's on the stack has been fantastic. I wish in this video Steven had gotten to use Feldon more

[@heartwoodmtg9246]

Sure, but you're not actually getting that much out of having your token for just one extra player's turn. If this was a 1v1 list, I'd be more interested.

[@Cincada2]

HeartwoodMtG oh you don't know how it works bro. That's why. if you put the sacrifice trigger on the stack, then sundial, the trigger goes away. since it's only a "next and step" and not each and step, it doesn't trigger again aka you keep the token forever. :) It's incredibly powerful with things like wurmcoil or battlesphere.

[@heygtc]

I love commander vs.!

[@leroy_sopacua]

Here's a fun one. All rebels and I mean for all 4 of you. Otherwise one goes -10 points due searching a rebel out of the deck.

[@RobertsonUku]

Jeremy, I'm excited for the Duck Tales reboot.

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) I know, right?!

[@7MukuroRealm]

Only one thing to say. Duck Tales, woo-hoo!

[@wibble87]

Justin, you should have got that rise of the dark realms, with the tutor. Breaching Leviathan was a mistake. You could have had all those blockers and swung against Jeremy then Jon.

[@oliverbowen8886]

commander cube!!! special extended episode with the draft!

[@rickydickmcbust5071]

Jeremy in with the tree to take the win woooooo lol was an amazing deck :)

[@BlackPowderTherapist]

Good job Stephen forgetting your wheel of fate lol

[@ajwebster6317]

As a weird experiment: what about LANDS as commanders? E.g. Urborg or Valkut, etc. - Stephen could then cast them from the command zone...

[@revengedealer]

Can't wait for next season :D

[@GrandMasterAdieUK]

@50:17 Stephen missed his draw step after resolving Wheel of Fate, and at @1:08:28 missed a lethal attack at a tapped out Jeremy. Even without the monument, could've stolen the Artisan with conscripts and attacked for exactly 19, unless Justin chose to save with Cryptic Command.

[@mjjdj88]

You're the winner of this season in my heart Justin ❤️

[@larix_laricina]

Oh hey, thanks for playing my deck, Stephen! Sorry it didn't perform that well for you, but it looked like you had some fun with it at least. I'm always looking to improve my decks on theme - any thoughts for additions? I've mostly built this out of trades and my own collection, so I'm sure I'm missing some good mono-red mill and chaos cards. Cards that I'm actively looking for are Molten Psyche, Reiterate, and Shocker. Possibly Keening Stone too? Or maybe some more artifact-based card advantage.

[@Tedurbin202]

One card I'm surprised to see wasn't in your build was sundial of the infinite. If you wait for the end of turn trigger from Feldon's token, you can respond with sundial to end your turn immediately, thus keeping the token forever. I've tested the card out in several other decks, and it has surprising utility, especially against decks that like to hold open mana for counters/removal. If you do put in sundial, you may want to also consider adding in Glorius end. effectively skip your opponent's turn, take another turn, then end your turn with sundial when the trigger goes on the stack.

[@larix_laricina]

I hadn't added Sundial because I was focused more on the enter the battlefield effects or attacking effects of the creatures. This deck doesn't necessarily care about keeping the tokens around. But I know what you're saying, and it's definitely something I should give another look. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/feldon-targaryen/ Here's one I created...especially if you're looking for powerful ETB effects and maximizing Feldon, look no further!

[@larix_laricina]

Very nice, I like that deck a lot! I'm sure the dragon theme is very powerful. My mill/fork plan may be quite a bit less powerful than this, but I will say I always have fun playing mine. :)

[@szentekkel]

finally a game where Stephen played well

[@TheClosetGamer]

You guys should up the stakes for the final episode. Whoever wins gets to humiliate the others in some fashion.

[@peterlervik1640]

would be interesting to see a channelfireball vs starcity two head giant / emperor game...

[@Lucan-io6ie]

yeah Emperor !

[@nolansouders]

Peter Lervik channel fireball would destroy them

[@TheSuperboy91]

Jon! Where's that solitary confinement!!!!

[@TheNigel2010]

I might be missing something but doesn't Justin just win if he casts Breaching Leviathan inside of combat before declare attacks on Jeremy's turn? Leyline gives flash and then the big board is tapped down for 2 turns and Justin has free reign to swing in.

[@Bcdeano]

Great season guys. Thanks for all the awesome content every week! A question as well...since you guys showed Jon's trigger exiles when they die, doesn't his delayed trigger of grave titan returning also exile? Does it ever actually return to the battlefield?

[@BrandonVasholz]

I could've swore I just saw Suarez at Spaghetti Works in downtown Omaha

[@hart7668]

If I did this correctly. Suarez won the series, at 22, get a point for saving, 2 points for third. So, 25. Green got 2, 1 for first blood, 1 for last, getting him to 24, and Jeremy won to get 4 points, also getting to 24.

[@d_dawg217]

Jonathan Hart Suarez had 20 going into the episode

[@hart7668]

Derek Shelby Ach! Hans! Did he?

[@vipper57779]

Jonathan Hart suarez and jeremy had 20 and stephen had 22. so stephen and jeremy tied at 24 and suarez had 23 with parnell in the back lol

[@darkhyena85]

colorless generals...aka eldrazi!!! And kamigawa generals, been begging this forever.

[@jimmylurton5574]

I wish i could take these guys on with my Sun Quan deck lol.

[@markharland2459]

59:19 Stephen activates a summoning sick Feldon

[@nathankrueger887]

Anger was in his graveyard nice try

[@markharland2459]

Nathan Krueger good point

[@Apollo_1988]

I really want to see two of you guys play Jimmy and Josh from the command zone in double headed giant

[@robertmines2278]

Canada needs a visit! come to GP Toronto!

[@Ole_Doc_Holliday]

I would like to see you all play 3 games of REAL cEDH. Like 4 tier 1 decks at a table. Takes about the same time as one of your regular videos. :P

[@DeviltoGeorgia34]

They did a competitive episode already. It's really boring to watch.

[@Traodea]

Parnell lakes the fortitude to stick with Nemesis of Reason being target Green.

[@jelamade]

For next season, two-headed giant. Random Teams and Random Decks

[@MultiverseMinis]

Jeremy Noell we have such similar play styles I know it's a season away but I would love to see you play a Captain Sisay deck

[@hnjahnjah]

Well Stephen,as a fan of yours i can appreciate you attacking Justin,but i prefer if you actually win tbh. If it's MILLING Justin on the other hand...i'm totally down for that! :D

[@TheKitsunefire]

At 1:00:01 can't Justin not equip greaves, because Jon phased it out? It doesn't come back into play until the next end step.

[@joaozitogameplays]

man, I wish Stephen and Justin were more friendly to eachother. That was the friendship of McDarby and Danny that hooked me on this series since the first time I watched.

[@Chipperbane]

When Justin exiled the Faith of the Devoted, what happened to the Copy Enchantment? Why did that ALSO go away?

[@superluke1]

green casted a dual caster mage and targeted it

[@adtpg1348]

I really want to see turtle and other bad tribals, as well as non-shadowborn shirei.

[@amethystwyvern]

[@Mostimpressiveindeed]

Pretty impressive how Justin equipped Lightning Greaves to a Wrexial that wasn't there. XD

[@throwitoutthewindow]

what was the video where the director gave them different things like Stevens lands used the stack and such

[@7MukuroRealm]

Well, I'm glad Stephen's singular focusing on Justin finally resulted in him losing

[@MestHoop]

Jup, Justin with the Comeuppance without even playing white

[@VBane]

Exarch-of-Sechrima To be fair he didn't focus him this game

[@hunterlee4412]

Justin still lost the series. Stephen has 24 points

[@shawnaustin1037]

If points are right today then I think Steven and Jeremy are tied for first with Jon one point behind. If Jon did another save with his cycle flicker combo he may sneak in a 3 way tie possibly.

[@charlesfloyd4270]

So quick rules question but at 26:01 when John slips the Feldon it has to be done before Jeremy moves to his end step correct? Which means the feldon comes right back in to play.

[@Abrody1477]

GATHERER RULING: If a player cycles a card during the end step, the creature that is exiled won’t come back until the end of the next turn.

[@charlesfloyd4270]

Raziel77 ok thanks mate.

[@xantarabla122]

at 1.12 justin dies to flying indestructable creatures

[@theluckiestt-shirt3596]

Suarez: "Nobody else playing Green? Nobody else playing White? Enchantment based strategy it is!"

[@tripsw117]

I'm a little confused as to why Justin didn't just wait to cast Breaching Leviathan during the beginning of the combat step of Jeremy's turn to make sure he had at least one more turn to try and win. He still had flash.

[@tripsw117]

Besides that, still love your videos, keep it up!!

[@joshwagner9519]

11:14 game start

[@nathanbishop8293]

So astral slide + sundial of the infinite = perma exiled right cause the trigger doesnt resolve and its like feldons ability where it only says next end step and not every end step so the card stays gone im right right?

[@limeshredder]

Could you guys do a Q/A next season?

[@chrisofthehoovers4055]

i started playing when RTR came out and Psychic Strike was my go to counter spell the whole time it was in standard i miss the goofy look my opponents would give me before they realized i was to broke to play CounterFlux

[@Blightblues7]

For season 8 I'd like to see decks focused around underused/under-powered tribes

[@UltimateDrDoom]

Ten hours of why is the rum gone. It's glorious.

[@treasureberry7154]

Wait Adam with Rakdos? is this from MTG Muddstah?

[@rainbowdeathjam4231]

is commander mana curve typically high like is turn 3 usually when you drop creatures

[@d_dawg217]

there is a tie for first again Stephen got two point making him at 24 and Jeremy got four points making him also 24 points

[@cameronstevenson1185]

Derek Shelby I think Stephen got first blood

[@cameronstevenson1185]

Derek Shelby at 16:10 Steven got first blood. so Stephens wins

[@Kizer5Red]

hate it when stephen wins...

[@d_dawg217]

I counted his first blood he still got 2 points he is at 24 and Jeremy got 4 points putting him at 24

[@Crystyn7B]

is the video sped up at times? The movements look a bit weird at times

[@devynmacdonald2985]

What creature is Justin talking about playing next season?

[@TrilainaBloodwind]

Okay, I know this is way-old at this point, but I need to know: what is the Sundial of the infinite for in Jon's list??? I don't get why it's there.

[@mrf1shie]

Trilaina Bloodwind astral slide things permanently?

[@vennom14]

Stephen needs to play Chainer, dementia master. I think it would be sick. ;D