StarCraft 2: INSANE Game - uThermal's MASS RAVEN Strategy!

[@marinauder]

Watching casters covering uThermal's challenge games after seeing it on his channel makes me feel somehow special

[@milletmongoose]

Same. We should all start a club!

[@____GoMeZ____]

@@milletmongoose we just need to get Harstems review of Lowkos review xD A review inception

[@gp123lIlI]

His videos are so addicting. Some of the best I have ever seen

[@therioh8813]

you can find me in da club - 50 therioh cent

[@ArtOfDying1029]

Do you feel special having gotten lowkos heart and 300 likes on this comment lol

[@Shushishtok]

Had to see this, I've been following uThermal since Lowko featured him here and said he has a channel. Very entertaining series, and he's actually winning most of the games even with just Helions and Raven by a HUGE margin!

[@joelv4495]

Auto turrets are imba!

[@smaakjeks]

21:10 - The collective noun for a group of ravens is an unkindness. Murder is for crows.

[@Lightwait321]

Fun Fact: A group of Ravens is called a ‘Conspiracy of Ravens’ Making Uthermal a Conspiracy Theorist in designing this strat.

[@Knowbody42]

I thoght it was called a murder of ravens.

[@Nighthawke70]

@@Knowbody42 Murder of crows.

[@Lightwait321]

@@Knowbody42 now you know…body

[@Levi_Skardsen]

The more common collective noun for ravens is an unkindness.

[@Lightwait321]

@@Levi_Skardsen interesting. I saw also A rave of ravens Treachery of ravens A flock of ravens

[@CrommVardek]

There is this old trick we used to see, and now it's mostly useless, but it could have been used by uThermal at some points: Scan and drop mules on siege tanks lines, friendly fire taking care of a few tanks where this is the only ground defense, then you can run the hellions in.

[@sintanan469]

Lowko, you _so_ need to cover more of the Raven challenge and the Ghost challenge. The raven/hellion have something like a 78% win rate and the ghosts are even better. Some of those nuke drops are orgasmic.

[@Khaim.m]

Yes, it is very surprising that a top-of-the-world player can do silly builds and still crush the ladder.

[@IcariumGaming]

The problem is that there isn't really anything exciting or new to each of his matches. Maybe he gets a great nuke, or takes a great fight with auto turrets. How do you really comment on that? Oh here comes the attack, twenty auto turrets and flies away, next battle now, oh twenty auto turrets and flies away. It is entertaining to watch, but not commentate. Is it good that he took one of uThermals losses, as it made things more interesting to cast. This is coming from someone who has watched all those matches.

[@sintanan469]

@@IcariumGaming That's fair, but that anticipation of scoring a solid nuke. That's palpable.

[@benumbrardor8708]

That Raven surround was amazing. It melted so much of Jason's army supply

[@beethoven4477]

Started watching him awhile ago, he started with mass ghost, really entertaining. I don't know how you guys play at these levels, I would get beat by the comp.

[@Honyakusha]

I really didn't like Raven challenge that much but Ghost challenge was different kind of beast, it has drama, pack of action and unexpected wins/loses *chief kiss* hope you can cover few of them in future Lowko

[@Sin1001]

The proxy hatch challenge is neat too

[@julianline6336]

Crazy how watching your videos got my love for sc2 to ignite again been watching u for two years now and don’t miss a video thanks for being u and posting good videos

[@FRoZeNShAdY]

I found uThermal's channel after watching one of your videos and never stopped watching since. Ghosts,hellions and ravens ! Great to now see you casting one of his games.

[@RangerCado]

22:00 Jason STILL has not gotten ship weapons, which feels like a massive problem against the Ravens at +3 armour

[@echofarm5237]

very cool. feels very nice when you see the games from Lowko view after watching Marc's view. and having both commentaries. i loved how Lowko was on point about the game. he was correct about the first fight. Marc said we dead if he attacks after that too. he couldn't win bcs he needed to be attacked instead of attacking himself. but when the ghost came, it was all done.

[@glados4765]

I stumbled on uthermal about 3 months ago and have loved all his content. Extremely talented and the strategies he comes up with are so crazy and they actually work. One thing you thermal stresses constantly is efficiency of each unit.

[@RupertBruce]

I'd like to see how different tactics would transform this game. UThermal was crippled by ghosts and yet kept his Ravens clumped for juicy EMPs. I was frustrated watching his POV....as an armchair critic - These guys are waaay beyond my skill level!!!

[@DiGiFiShRaGeMoNsTaR]

yessss ive been watching uthermal recently super entertaining

[@Markus_Berglund]

Yesm the "Building armour" is also a good Raven-upgrade! The +2 armour helps the Auto turrets, because they counts as bulidings, not units. 😀 Great video! 😍

[@jasonlynch282]

Also the high sec auto track gives the turrets +1 range.

[@Markus_Berglund]

@@jasonlynch282 Yep. But that he mentioned in the video. 😀

[@jennybender2643]

Thermys challenges made me watching sc2 matches again after couple years break. Now iam here and enjoy Lowkos stuff as i never been away. Solid stuff Lowko, thx for constantly creating content for so many years (yeah we grow old i guess, but Lowko looks like it was yesterday he started this channel, im jealous :))

[@captain_squishy]

I will often watch your videos before going to sleep, and end dreaming that I'm playing Starcraft and you're casting it. Makes for some interesting dreams (and interesting Starcraft, because it doesn't make sense)

[@PashaSlavaUkraine]

more uthermal please thanks :) absolute bangers

[@anonymussme]

Fun Fact: While the collective noun for crows is a murder, it's actually an "unkindness" of ravens

[@kindlin]

Who the fu- Someone hates corvids.

[@TritonTv69420]

When i saw the thumbnail i had flashbacks of when the seeker missile did damage and stacked...

[@BaufenBeast]

You'd think blue flame hellions would do well against Ghosts, except that despite appearances, Ghosts are not actually light units. They actually have no armor tag at all. Hellions/hellbats are light units though, so Ghosts kick the shit out of them.

[@patrickmontague3887]

As in that one episode of What We Do in the Shadows: "We sent ravens. We sent FIVE HUNDRED ravens!"

[@Arkeli5]

Wow, what a game. uThermal must be putting massive stress on himself trying to win games with this unit comp. Very entertaining for us of course.

[@songhan1586]

works better against zerg , ghost kinda hard counter ravens

[@brendandavies9270]

In his vid he looked like he was having the time of his life in this game, seems like he really enjoys these challenges

[@brianmendelson1736]

this video made me grin from ear to ear for the full thing. hilarious

[@maquabear5242]

Great video Lowko!

[@luisfigueroa104]

Had a severe toilet situation while watching this video. Thank you for making the experience enjoyable. Great commentary and series. I will soon buy a shirt because of this.

[@petrkorunka8982]

One of the most interesting and entertaining TvT I have ever seen!!!

[@viktorschulz9900]

Nice game, thanks for casting!

[@Tom-yg7mi]

2:02 "might be a good idea to go overdose units" - hovering on a reaper who takes combat drugs haha

[@Kroepoek82]

The continous sound of the Orbital Command scans is maddening.

[@stevenalcorn3460]

It shows you just how good Marc is to limit himself to two units from the beginning. Going to the last 2 mineral patches/

[@kofrugal98bernstein76]

I did the math lowko and you were indeed very close in your math, before the engagement the murder of ravens counted in at 50 each one holds a max of 200 hundred energy then the hero ghost emped 10,000 energy away pretty sweet play if you ask me and definitely warrants the ouch response

[@tallformyage]

I love uThermal! Cast more of his games!

[@DeltaDemon1]

There's a point at about the 20 minute mark where you can sacrifice many SCVs and simply use mules for minerals leaving much supply for really massive hellion/hellbat attacks.

[@proofofpower]

8000 energy would be 40 Ravens at 200 energy - you were basically right.

[@csmlouis]

The last 20 minutes were total scan galore which fit well to Jason's own challenge of not clocking Ghosts.

[@tehli6726]

Would be interesting to watch u cover one of these games from uThermal where he goes against a P or Z also!

[@anthonyzarakikira1712]

love your videos lowko keep it up! Ps. its an unkindness of ravens /murder of crows, keep doing what you do!

[@captainmccuckin2698]

When your whole army gets surrounded by 5 army groups of ravens

[@joshuamitchell9705]

I died lol

[@NativeNewMexican]

You can lockdown ghosts, so a properly split clone of lockdowns on the ghosts prior to the rest of the mass ravens deals with the emp and ghosts.

[@astarfullofskies8735]

20:10 My answer? Ghosts to counter Ghosts with emp, then , mass raven as usual

[@dinomightx3]

Unfortunately, that would be outside the challenge rules so he couldn't use ghosts.

[@Kristophsky]

This reminds me of Ketroc’s build. Still love watching it!

[@hardcoreromeo2111]

The siege tank looking mighty thicc…nice -Lowko

[@Fifury161]

36:50 - Just like the plural of Lego is Lego!

[@crescentmoon2806]

Are we all forgetting Beastyqt? He had the Raven Widowmine challenge months or even years ago and it was hilarious, just as all his other "to GM" challenges Sentries only was a feast too

[@kong450]

I tried to sync up this cast with uThermal's view of it, and his video of the match actually plays slightly faster than this cast of it. Nonetheless, it was really interesting seeing both views of the match. Nice work by both of you :)

[@FragnarokNethermaster]

uThermal just felt what late game zerg ladder heroes feel whenever their entire army is absolutely demolished by a single unit: ghosts

[@wojurera3131]

Wait, am I thermal, or are UThermal?🤨🤔🔥💥

[@edradvlyordt]

His youtube channel name is uThermal

[@sintanan469]

@@edradvlyordt Wooosh.

[@fortheregm1249]

@@edradvlyordt judging by the comments I think i need to explain to you that "woosh" was the sound of a joke flying over your head.

[@wojurera3131]

@@sintanan469 Hey guys be nice, it's all good😜

[@wojurera3131]

@@fortheregm1249 We don't know how old they are, or maybe they just commented super quick, it's all good😜

[@skinnykin1]

im just curious would fast banshees do well against this? the banshees are fast enough to run from autoturrets and ravens but can completely counter the hellions. Am i not seeing something with this one?

[@Appletank8]

If you put turrets around the hellions, you can’t exactly attack them.

[@DrakeyC]

When Patton said "no poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country", he clearly was not aware of Hellions.

[@goeddia223]

That's So Raven, Lowko

[@CubeItself]

the greatest double engi bag usage of all time

[@lordbry470]

Oh man. I haven't played sc2 for how many years.. But I still remember this guy Jason, and his loverboy Avilo loloololol

[@wallisa]

so the reason sheep doesnt have a plural meaning is because during old english we got rid of a bunch of old plural word. it used to be called sceap, the same is said for deer and swine who are both singular and plural words

[@wallisa]

just incase lowko actually reads this lol

[@LowkoTV]

Ha interesting!

[@kardainzr161]

Ghost only was after Raven only, and both are being done together I thought Lowko ;)

[@MikeOldani]

What's the plural of sheep? Schaapen, of course. Silly Lowko ;)

[@jasonlynch282]

Ravens are light armor. So after the EMP's. The ghosts will do bonus attack damage to them and kill them fast.

[@Klobilob]

oooh i forgot about the hunter seeker missile XDXD

[@MaximumSpice]

Great game, Jason was deffo paying too much respect to uThermal, needed to just go for the kill but he was probs so nervous playing against such a pro.

[@Im_Frustrated45]

I just played a long TvT game and i lost ANDD I just remembered that ravens exsist xD

[@bongkem2723]

Jason is a great player, bring the game to the mined out map ;) uThermal should go for a final all in though, that GG is kinda sad :(

[@Trades46]

uThermal doing the Ketroc build

[@supertekkel1]

@ 24:04 we see a Kolvoord Starburst

[@Necroneer]

This game was such a banger.

[@ezraclark7904]

I wished it, and now it is!

[@brendanw1867]

Just in case no one confirmed. That one emp did about 4,000 energy damage; assuming each of the ravens had at least a hundred energy. Which is 80 auto turrets worth of energy. Ouch indeed, sir.

[@jeremyjones6219]

Goose is to geese as moose is to meese

[@daethalion1725]

Honestly I think the weirdest thing about this whole match was seeing a completely empty production tab over 25 minutes in.

[@jindrichjochec296]

Can someone tell me where do I find the music Lowko uses in his videos? Pls?

[@knicklichtjedi]

I wonder what his strategy is against builds that counter this strategy hard. Lik Battlecruiser opener, Skytoss or Muta Harrass.

[@TheMooseMan563]

Should have a counter on how many times lowko mentions that Jason should go for ghosts

[@ABAb-yf5tx]

Mass Hellion and Mass Raven! UThermal is just Giantgrantgames

[@sorsocksfake]

Fun try, though I don't quite see why you'd keep them clumped up? It's not like it gives you more space for autoturrets, so why not split off groups and destroy whatever the enemy isn't guarding? Also, probably consider allowing marines in instead of hellions, to burn durn the missile turret spam. Which isn't just anti-air: it also denies space. Widow mines might also be interesting here? X-only should probably allow a bit of versatility there to deal with hard counters.

[@Leonhart_93]

The control is just that hard. Flying units clump up automatically. It looks like it's hard to get an advantageous engagement even when having just a group of them. Imagine controlling two or more separate groups at the same time and make them get an engagement that a single one can't take.

[@sorsocksfake]

@@Leonhart_93 Yeah I get the clumping up part, hence the idea to split groups. Can't clump up when they're half a map away ;). But I'd agree it would take godlike skill to do it well. Then again, we have some demigods around :)

[@Leonhart_93]

@@sorsocksfake I know it seems not that hard, I thought the same. But since he briefly split them then gave up tells me it's actually not easy or advantageous in any way. Pros often split armies to attack on multiple flanks, but I don't think it can be done here, there is no undefended flank, there is no point. I guess his single way to win was killing the army.

[@darkalley8595]

What an amazing game!

[@andrenyheim123]

2-3 Thors would be very scary with javelin missiles AOE damage.

[@OMIMreacts]

some players tried that against uthermal in the early midgame, but ravens just disabled them and uthermal won

[@Ariescz]

Murder is group of crows. For ravens, it is unkindness, or conspiracy

[@tohothewriter8002]

More stuff beats less stuff. StarCraft 2 101.

[@sekittojoseph8341]

Uthermal would have got two tanks to slow push out turrets right?

[@REgamesplayer]

uThermal played it too passively. Mid game he did nothing. Late game he allowed himself to be suffocated. With energy based units, in order to gain value, you need to spend energy. Seems simple, but uThermal's inability to trade energy for resources was why he had lost this game.

[@randovids]

Imagine if seeker missiles were still a thing

[@fundoo1526]

So glad that Jason won.

[@patricklehigh9019]

KETROCK Ummmm Jeff that blue block is moving?!?

[@drews3980]

Banger I don't even know her!

[@alejandrotevez6302]

Thats so raven.... getting some ketrok vibes here

[@SJWetz88]

There’s a reason a group of ravens is called a murder

[@Phi1618033]

uThermal's challenge series have been very entertaining.

[@produktivwissenschaft3184]

Why didn't he change his raven combination? I don't get why u would attack in this clumbs when y know what the way of your enemy is to counter them .

[@coudercos]

Wake me up before you go ghosts 🎼

[@kardainzr161]

MMR is a guideline, and doesn't mean everything Lowko, Harstem told me so, not directly but whilst I was watching a video. Don't take it with a grain of salt ;P

[@Terracronz]

Fun channel crossover

[@denu1879]

Using what is, a detection unit for offence. Was never going to work lol...

[@musawenkosi3799]

Is this why i keep getting blitzed with mass ravens in the ladder now...!

[@PixelPower23]

Please cast more Jason's games hahaah

[@ZLO_FAF]

Ghostbusters episode

[@unrealinreal1636]

Why Jason didn’t create a few cyclons and liberators…

[@speedhunter787]

How come this video is not 4k60?

[@sheauwn6974]

Mass Raven... not bad not bad. But where's the fleet of planetary fortresses?

[@xitaris5981]

I would have enjoyed seeing a game cast from this challenge that wasn't TvT because don't high level TvT have a lot of Ravens to begin with? And other races don't have EMP.

[@jasonlynch282]

Phoenix can out maneuver the ravens. Ravens run out of energy and then die. Mass queens would shut them down too.