StarCraft 2: INSANE Multi Tasking - Serral vs Clem! (Best-of-5)

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LowkoTV

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Жыл бұрын

Best-of-5 series of top elvel StarCraft 2 between Serral (Zerg) and Clem (Terran). This series was played during the European regionals of Dreamhack Atlanta.
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@J6hn
@J6hn Жыл бұрын
Serral has been such a gentleman every time I have seen him lose. Even when Bunny knocked him out in the semis for Atlanta it was a "gg wp gl" and a walk straight to him to congratulate.
@christran9341
@christran9341 Жыл бұрын
I was there in Atlanta and you could see very clearly that serral became frustrated with bunny’s non stop aggression and we even saw it in his face but when he lost he walked straight to him and wished him luck. Good guy
@J6hn
@J6hn Жыл бұрын
@@christran9341 Probably akin to my frustration when I'm losing to dumb stuff on ladder, but Serral has more business winning a match than my mid-diamond face.
@CubeItself
@CubeItself Жыл бұрын
i think reason lowko is such a good caster is because he enjoys talking with himself and feels very comfortable talking about whatever; spicing up thec comentary a bit after all, he genuinely has a lot of fun and expresses genuine excitement, ouch and interest when things happen, whether they be a big push, a big bane runby or when a player does something out of the ordinary or out of the "standard"
@ironmonkey1512
@ironmonkey1512 Жыл бұрын
dutch->english is fun too it warms my heart when he says 'e-chudder'
@AdityaMehendale
@AdityaMehendale Жыл бұрын
@@ironmonkey1512 Warms it inside and uit ;)
@trentwood1449
@trentwood1449 Жыл бұрын
8:50 Like talking about the physics of a siege tank blasting itself off the cliff for bad center of gravity placement.
@CubeItself
@CubeItself Жыл бұрын
@@ironmonkey1512 his accent is super silly at times too
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 Жыл бұрын
Not mentioning the quality songs and Goofy impressions
@jakes.5206
@jakes.5206 Жыл бұрын
45:50 That factory pilot definitely prefers making add-ons to units. Each game, the factory may get to fly once. Getting to take off and land all the time is what that guy trained for.
@TherosSoultaker
@TherosSoultaker Жыл бұрын
You know what my favorite part of your casts is? The fact that you have completely lost your mind, and you fully embrace it.
@petrutpaul
@petrutpaul Жыл бұрын
"That siege tank ... it may be blasting itself from the cliff" ... :))
@wojurera3131
@wojurera3131 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@bookshop7337
@bookshop7337 Жыл бұрын
Lowko, I love the fact that you go above and beyond the casting to show how impactful the upgrades are, the random guitar riffs you sound out, and all of those other things that give your videos that distinct Lowko-ness. Keep it all up hahaha
@nilocblue
@nilocblue Жыл бұрын
Congrats LowKo on half a million subscribers. That’s really fantastic, your success is well deserved! (Please post a video about a pro StarCraft 1 game though, I would love that!) 😊
@PappaAbe
@PappaAbe Жыл бұрын
Now, you should run those fights a hundred times, plot the results on a histogram, and see if they’re normally distributed :D
@armando2814
@armando2814 Жыл бұрын
it seems we have a variance of 0.5
@MickeyMouse-bo6ug
@MickeyMouse-bo6ug Жыл бұрын
What's the r squared value?
@theorochocz6735
@theorochocz6735 Жыл бұрын
nydus attack: kills 25 workers lowko: even tho the nydus didn't achievd too much... lowko 100% terran biased
@MasterC056
@MasterC056 Жыл бұрын
Look closer, he loses almost all the SCVs by the roach and probably only 4 or 5 by the queens ^^
@razaele5495
@razaele5495 Жыл бұрын
The widow mines look pretty OP when Clem is playing them...
@ivancolesnic
@ivancolesnic Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@huyxiun2085
@huyxiun2085 Жыл бұрын
Still, it seems that some tank in game four would have been better... maybe? It's kind of dumb of me to say that since widow mines worked so well. But man, these juicy tanks position on that map, so tempting! Also, mastering several play style and having the option in your portfolio sounds like a must for tournaments and all... I guess he just works the mines so much better than anyone else, that it makes no sense for him.
@asdf2691
@asdf2691 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure if youtube had a 'most watched youtuber' thing like spotify, lowko would be my #1 hands down, these casts are part of my daily schedule when i make dinner lol
@Panda-cp9cs
@Panda-cp9cs Жыл бұрын
19:35 no loko these moments are the reason i subscribed
@yamilabugattas3895
@yamilabugattas3895 Жыл бұрын
I knew the upgrades were really important, but that fight between the marines and the zerglings was eye opening.
@matthewlewis4831
@matthewlewis4831 Жыл бұрын
Loved the little break showing the benefit of upgrades
@thatsounditmakes9177
@thatsounditmakes9177 Жыл бұрын
As someone who plays zero amount of competitive SC2 I always appreciate the technical analysis. Keep it up Lowko!
@andrewroyle2847
@andrewroyle2847 Жыл бұрын
8:54 yeah Lowko, I've also been dazzled by how well they fortify themselves on solid air.
@ammonheinzen8536
@ammonheinzen8536 Жыл бұрын
That was a very effective demonstration, Lowko! It did blow my mind. What a difference!
@avenuetsukayama107
@avenuetsukayama107 Жыл бұрын
Lowko, your support of the original sound track is absolutely amazing. Please keep doing it. It would demonstrate remarkable confidence and win the support of your followers.
@danielfeelipe
@danielfeelipe Жыл бұрын
Lowko, I haven't played starcraft since starcraft 1 (despite a few times I tried the SC2 campaign but didn't last long). You have made watch every single video of your channel for the last 6 months. I just want to let you that I love your videos, you are great at what you do. Keep it up!
@stalwart56k
@stalwart56k Жыл бұрын
This was lit. Excellent match and cast!
@amineaiffa
@amineaiffa Жыл бұрын
Nice job Lowko. It's good to see you're still making starcraft videos.
@whisk5724
@whisk5724 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content as always!
@daethalion1725
@daethalion1725 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking how long it's been since I've seen Clem in a high level game. Also, Serral is basically the Baskin Robbins of StarCraft. He always finds out.
@gardianx5293
@gardianx5293 Жыл бұрын
Serral vs clem? Oh man. This is like the absolute best sc2. In some ways i prefer clem/serral over serral/maru. The constant pressure from clem's bio is the stuff of legends and seeing serral either holding out or crumble is always exciting
@tigera6
@tigera6 Жыл бұрын
Lots of Zerg playing like Serral against Clem, trying to hold out as long as they can while teching up to higher tier units. Reynor and Solar play a very similar way for the most part. Its Dark who play something entirely different and really make Clem sweat, he just ignore Clem main army and go all-in for the harrassment or even base trade.
@Kadaj0666
@Kadaj0666 Жыл бұрын
Great games thank you for the video !!! Also thanks for the upgrades demo, it's very interesting !
@ramiroavila1869
@ramiroavila1869 Жыл бұрын
your joke about the map went inside and out of my mind xD
@Panda-cp9cs
@Panda-cp9cs Жыл бұрын
damn lowko. doing thing like this 22:00 are the reason you are the goat
@deadlyanemia5858
@deadlyanemia5858 Жыл бұрын
Those comparisons with the upgrades is insane. I'm a casual story player, so I never really know the impact of all the upgrades. Mind blown!
@Arbaal
@Arbaal Жыл бұрын
19:21 Best part , LowkoTV should sing like that in all his vids
@adamheeley285
@adamheeley285 Жыл бұрын
this was a really cool cast
@Rockpet
@Rockpet Жыл бұрын
Insane multitasking 🤡. Obnoxiously you haven't seen me play with all my scvs mining at the SAME TIME. Pretty impressive for my bronze 3
@matthewhanf3033
@matthewhanf3033 Жыл бұрын
My bronze 2 let's me do that AND drop mules 🤓
@michaelbillingham5580
@michaelbillingham5580 Жыл бұрын
Pff please. My micro is so good that I can produce more then one drone at a time
@Rockpet
@Rockpet Жыл бұрын
Damn you guys are pretty good, but that doesn't compare to me moving my full army without seeing them.
@Yetidelamontagne
@Yetidelamontagne Жыл бұрын
@@Rockpet like it was possible you liar ! Everyone know that time stop where you don't look
@Name-ru1kt
@Name-ru1kt Жыл бұрын
@@Rockpet then losses all of it to a single disruptor ball
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
34:35 for practice the bot coding would ´be amazing, you can tell it exactly how good to be, what to do, what tactic to use etc. so you can prepare counters for that exact thing. practice is more like 1-5 min of a specific thing 200 times until more optimized then same with the next "technic" to train
@Willdreynolds870621
@Willdreynolds870621 Жыл бұрын
with that upg difference STIM furthers the slaughter. Clem must enjoy an uphill climb lmoa
@LHles948
@LHles948 5 ай бұрын
love how u sometime go into the lives of the tower operator, barracks pilots etc.
@prysmatic
@prysmatic Жыл бұрын
7:22 so pretty :D drones be putting up a good show
@TheCajunAsian
@TheCajunAsian Жыл бұрын
Clem is playing some of the best SC of his life, amazing.... i wanna see him vs Maru and Byun rn
@Willdreynolds870621
@Willdreynolds870621 Жыл бұрын
just came from lambos drone pull. my god im moist 🤣🤣 now back to reality GO CLEM LMAO
@A_Brit
@A_Brit Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed you showing us the difference. Thank you
@felipetoledodiaz1928
@felipetoledodiaz1928 Жыл бұрын
Hola Lowco, Your comments are so good!! Ty for doing this, also I can improve my English a lot. Saludos desde Chile
@madumlao
@madumlao Жыл бұрын
i got amazing multitasking skills as well. i can select multiple groups of units from across the map, and order them to move to one location, attacking if they encounter the enemy. and i only use 2 keys! f2, then a.
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
18:29 the split before we even realised both are hit :P
@yankeefanbryson19
@yankeefanbryson19 Жыл бұрын
Your commentary on the time of day the game is played at brings me back to a question that I had during DreamHack Atlanta: when the pros go to in-person tournaments overseas, how much of an impact does jet lag have on their play (or is their schedule just already so weird that it doesn't significantly affect them)? Do they tend to show up the day before or do they give themselves an adjustment period?
@xinxinix2172
@xinxinix2172 Жыл бұрын
You gotta love Clem having a visceral awakening :v
@julianbayona345
@julianbayona345 Жыл бұрын
Lowko, you can keep the musical accompaniment, that just makes it better.
@DanielCruz-pt8ff
@DanielCruz-pt8ff Жыл бұрын
I tried to re-sub, keep the sounds coming :D
@bongkem2723
@bongkem2723 Жыл бұрын
Lokow will tease Clem forever with the 3-3 upgrades :))
@manclub6907
@manclub6907 Жыл бұрын
I find it baffling how everyone, even zerg players like Lowko (love u btw) ALWAYS mention zerg's "inflated" APM because of pressing 1 and holding Z. But 1 action is 50 minerals... why does noone EVER seems to mention that as Terran you press 4 and hold A, you're also getting 1 action per 50 minerals when filling the queue, making it nearly the same APM in the end?
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
19:44 rare you see pro player do proper static. now just double it up and you are free to roam other areas, leave a few snipe and nuke ghost incase wild stuff happen
@tehli6726
@tehli6726 Жыл бұрын
This man the goat
@ErdingerLi
@ErdingerLi Жыл бұрын
How are they doing so many things at once?! It's mind-boggling..
@Flamethrower426
@Flamethrower426 Жыл бұрын
Yuhhhhhh let’s go lowko
@temushin
@temushin Жыл бұрын
That 5-evo evo block.....
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
15:15 . its a drop with overlord, and clem just a moved and stimmed to dealwith it, vs. mines everywhere that cost like a fourth the price ^^...
@terminaro
@terminaro Жыл бұрын
Damn the baguette was swong hard that day xD
@Drew_Boooo
@Drew_Boooo Жыл бұрын
Are they amazing splits Lowko? Are they?
@spoonhoa6886
@spoonhoa6886 Жыл бұрын
SUPER epic game
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
20:32 damn i love how clem plays here, how often do you get to see ghost use cloak effectively against zerglings :D that's so cool to see. and honestly I would love if that was more their special talent instead of literally killing anything bio etc -.- make snipe an upgrade which replace auto attack doesn't ghost energy and lower dmg, but snipe range shooting delay etc., and balanced lowered dmg on each hit. like this it could easily be balanced so that having 20 ghost couldn't mean boom gone is 150 zerg t3 army supply... which is so dumb, and while they would still be really good bc balance, at their targets and maybe against everything as now, but their insane instant burst against everything would be more fair and they now don't need energy for it, so more cloak :D ^^
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
35:43 yer bc clem forgot about his static, when he won he had 3+ turrets and planetary on outline base, now he had orbital and 0 turrets. just 3 turrets would have done mean dmg to mutas or given time for reinforcement, having it on each base would have wracked those mutas as they would fly over 3+ turrest 4 times in a row+´support fire. 2 turrest are 3 marines, not like you can't afford not ^getting one more medivac marines for harass for 2 bases defense ^^
@Willdreynolds870621
@Willdreynolds870621 Жыл бұрын
second game was like watching your favorite fighter dominate round 1, 2, and 3. then half way through round 4 get hit with an over hand right for the KO 🤦‍♂
@mostafapanahi3240
@mostafapanahi3240 Жыл бұрын
Lowko falling into depression 20:55
@haimhaggiag7808
@haimhaggiag7808 Жыл бұрын
Whats the software to make unit fight ans see Whos Winning with the upgrade
@JockStud
@JockStud Жыл бұрын
You are the best video game caster in the world. I believe in U.
@huyxiun2085
@huyxiun2085 Жыл бұрын
58:40 French do appreciate the effort! Still, I wouldn't exactly say you "nailed" it :p
@huyxiun2085
@huyxiun2085 Жыл бұрын
Just ended the watch. Man I'm soooo glad it wasn't spoiled. It felt clutch to me. Together with Lowko's analysis / cast (without that I realize I am dumb and unable to know who's winning or losing), it was a great experience. Thanks man!
@shyndashu
@shyndashu Жыл бұрын
I was a rank 1 masters Zerg but player count dropped so quick that wasnt fun on ladder anymore. I wish it was as big as it used to be,
@ganzre2115
@ganzre2115 Жыл бұрын
how can i try this fights that he did marine vs zergling ?
@Akamaru015
@Akamaru015 Жыл бұрын
The title of this game should have been "How did those Zerglings get in!?"
@imthedevilkys536
@imthedevilkys536 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen serral get slapped around like that.
@JustLacksZazz350
@JustLacksZazz350 Жыл бұрын
Serral, despite being the GOAT seems like a good dude. Calling the proper GG's and GG WP's for Clem. A true gentleman. Polar opposite from Idra :/
@benjaminhildebrand4343
@benjaminhildebrand4343 Жыл бұрын
I would like to officially petition that you go back to saying the "hello everybody my name is lowko" at the beginning of every video. Please and thank you.
@Alternative-Works
@Alternative-Works Жыл бұрын
I like when he says "Starcraft II"
@patrickcostello1693
@patrickcostello1693 Жыл бұрын
Lowko, pretty sure people subscribe, not unsubscribe, due to your musical inputs.
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 Жыл бұрын
Can you neural a medivac with units in it?
@sparkyk24
@sparkyk24 Жыл бұрын
No
@HayEnju
@HayEnju Жыл бұрын
anyone else see the amazing flying zergling at 42:53?
@briandaniel7335
@briandaniel7335 Жыл бұрын
wtf haha
@dmytro9279
@dmytro9279 Жыл бұрын
what is the mode used at 22:05?
@csmlouis
@csmlouis Жыл бұрын
Finally, the upload that does not interfere with my USA world cup watching schedule. Perfect timing for an hour long cast.
@geisterhose9473
@geisterhose9473 Жыл бұрын
I guess the map is called inside and out cause of the terrain. Inside und got lava looking inside the Planets surface. Outside you got a winter looks like surface. So inside hot, outside cold: inside & out.
@maximilianalvarez4518
@maximilianalvarez4518 Күн бұрын
Man I love it u thermal. Is that most gangsta player ever win lose it was a hard win or loss
@TritonTv69420
@TritonTv69420 Жыл бұрын
Whoa!
@Caninoization
@Caninoization Жыл бұрын
Yea Epic and very enjoy match
@rubenvirtudez47
@rubenvirtudez47 Жыл бұрын
We LIke the music. Lowko, stop singing! XD
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
33:34 would be kinda cool with a borrow zergling to place down a worm for a good ambush, as example if it was ready and they z attacked from behind here there would be naked marines ready for slaughter ^^ look at how much work clems static is putting in :D z static is really bad vs T but worms for ambushes, borrow for banebombs, just bc it forces scans on every good spot (1 bane is cheaper than a scan, and even 1 does significant dmg which at worst drains a lot of medivac energy, making them much weaker for later engagements and draining scans or forcing ravens to go everywhere etc ^^ with ambush worms getting bane out on annoying spots is also easy :D every "WRAAAH" sound mean you need to scan every ramp that could now be baneling or zergling ambush infested :P also at later game it can bring drones safely to outlining dangerous bases and more importantly safe them when those bases eventually get overrun and killed as such do ^^
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
33:46 also on a map this big being able to move forces from top to bottom within seconds instead of tens of seconds could be very valuable; more so that you can split up your forces easily no matter what choke point T occupy you will attack from all the best angles bc your ground reinforcements are mapped into the worms ready to exist where-ever you need extra ^^ seriously in late game Z it wouldn't be too much to have like 6 worms at once, the reinforcement would be insanely quick, it would be near impossible to stop them going up, retreat is fast and easy; and you can use them as "blockades or tanking" in a pinch (your army fights and its extremely close, suddenly 6 worms start building on top of the enemy army, making a moves and studderstepping much worse and overkill dmg if focused. it could be the game changer and resource wise it's like a smaller zealot runby. it could be enormously strong and would allow queens to come and heal and then go back; with 6 worms even if the enemy wants to focus the worms its hard to do that much dmg while being attacked and 6 new worms could start immediately; its dirt cheap, even the HP buffer they provide can be worth it in some cases ^^
@Spartsou
@Spartsou Жыл бұрын
wow....that game one win, *without* 3-3 upgrades.... You think he could've won with 1-1? lol prob not 30:11 Clem was looking at his main base, looks like he's a Terran Lowko: SCV's don't have an evolution chamber block to block those banelings. Me: ....now that you said that, couldn't they engineering Bay block the banes, just starting it and leaving it unfinished, mind you, but.....would that work? Great cast, Lowko, as always!
@CMF412
@CMF412 Жыл бұрын
I played hundreds of hours of sc2 ladder and never realized that there was music.
@jasonlynch282
@jasonlynch282 Жыл бұрын
Shame
@V3x0r
@V3x0r Жыл бұрын
008 was played by Sean Bean (in Goldeneye) and was fated to die.
@jayyrod1
@jayyrod1 Жыл бұрын
He was a Lienz-cossack!
@RD-rm6qm
@RD-rm6qm Жыл бұрын
Drinking game idea: take a shot every time lowko says ‘’anyhow’’. Guaranteed to get wasted af
@Metaspace2
@Metaspace2 Жыл бұрын
Window mindes...too strong. Excellent game from Serral, Clem even forgot 3/3, still no chance.
@Metaspace2
@Metaspace2 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know how many kills window mines do in such a match - essentially for zero attention cost.
@jiyouphan8028
@jiyouphan8028 Жыл бұрын
I thought I saw a leviathan in the thumbnail picture 😂
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
18:20 well at that point 3,3 would be what? 1k resources so basically 20 marines worth of army, but better bc gas; so would clem survive if you removed 20supply of army? think thats why, he properly haven't been confident in fighting 20 supply down compared to what he has been doing since 2,2 finished. but yes weird its not done yet :P
@juansaldana7976
@juansaldana7976 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy's body was still being corroded by the banelings fluid, so it looks like his body disintegrated
@loicjombart1060
@loicjombart1060 Жыл бұрын
LowKo I listen to you every night before I go to bed.I listen to you more than my girl friend!Thank you great job you doing!
@Varuga
@Varuga Жыл бұрын
Serral not lookin himself recently.
@Nova_Jan
@Nova_Jan Жыл бұрын
Widow mines are ridiculous still
@mrwolf9095
@mrwolf9095 Жыл бұрын
Lowko you can sing I don’t mind 😊
@quantum_microscope
@quantum_microscope Жыл бұрын
now Lowko is officially upgraded from mister-anyways to mister-anyhow
@thewave5536
@thewave5536 Жыл бұрын
EPIC
@wischmopps293
@wischmopps293 Жыл бұрын
APM inflation is nearly a myth. Prove by math: even if the zerg would make 1000 lings in 10 minutes, the apm would increase by 500/10 minutes = 50apm. Also making terran and toss units cost apm. If there is a higher apm, than just if you build lots of small units, but not because of the hold button..apm might shot up for a sec, but then it goes faster down too... So no. No significant inflation. Maybe 10-20 apm due to the fact that zerg makes more small units, but not based on mechanics. Asume you only make ultras, apm would be even lower
@wischmopps293
@wischmopps293 Жыл бұрын
PS: if you want to see the difference: at the end of the game, check the amount of built units. The difference your divide by the playtime and you see the impact of zerg having more smaller units. The way of building doesn't do any difference
@solaire1037
@solaire1037 Жыл бұрын
What multitasking feels like for a normal person feels like doing one task to clem
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 Жыл бұрын
seriously with so many years of sc2 i would have loved to see the competitive version where as much of the tech, upgrade etc. from the campaign - except everything hero based; I don't like heroes and how they change everything to be about them sigh. i just want to see P have shield heal sentries, long range sentries; etc. actually stevkovs, zombie horde, kinda gameplay; it has a deep theme (sadly it does creep better then z ever could dream about; who need tumors, tumors are a weak link; and good way to produce and use free units, perfect for zerglings etc.) I want to see the best of all that stuff combined with the 3 races so it feels, looks and plays awesome, and very new and different; that could also be a good time to revisit what your apm mid and late game should go to, like auto produce marines when one is finished, creep continue spreading much further for each tumor making it harder to find and deal with and requiring more to effectively remove all creep. maybe we could get even higher lvls off play if 80% of a pro players skills shouldn't be in basic management task like restarting a marine every time one is done etc.
@gabe7631
@gabe7631 Жыл бұрын
I just came by to say Clem is hot. We all knew serral was hot but Jesus clem is tooo fine to play SC2😭
@mechadoggy
@mechadoggy Жыл бұрын
Nah, Serral is way hotter than Clem
@1987retroman
@1987retroman Жыл бұрын
Ghosts still OP? Yup.
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 Жыл бұрын
Clems just so good
@tigera6
@tigera6 Жыл бұрын
@@vanguard6498 then why hes not winning TvT?
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 Жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 Like I said, Clem is just so good.
@tigera6
@tigera6 Жыл бұрын
@@vanguard6498 and like I ask, why hes not winning TvT?
@vanguard6498
@vanguard6498 Жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 Clem is very good, like Isaid. TVT is a different match up compared to TVZ. You gotta understand that
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 Жыл бұрын
I feel with all those lings in game one Clem would've benefited from continuing to build hellbats, he already had blue flame after all and they're healed by medivacs it just seems like a no brainer to me.
@tigera6
@tigera6 Жыл бұрын
And what happen when Serral adding more Banes?
@briandaniel7335
@briandaniel7335 Жыл бұрын
hellbats get dunked on by banelings
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 Жыл бұрын
@@briandaniel7335 Really? they can't tank some like marauders, at least a few?
@briandaniel7335
@briandaniel7335 Жыл бұрын
​@@montypython5521 Mauarder can tank like 9 banes hellbat can tank about 3
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