StarCraft 2 Vs Warcraft 3: Protoss Versus The Alliance?! (Modded SC2 Cast)

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We have another mashup of two universes today! It's a game of StarCraft 2 Vs Warcraft 3: The Protoss Versus The Alliance (Humans). Except now instead of 100 supply... the Warcraft races have a new cap of 200! How will this super powered, hyper-advanced alien race hold up against the medieval/magical shenanigans of The Alliance?? This is truly like a game of Warhammer 40k! This match features the PvH matchup of Rosebudio (P) Vs iliya (H).
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Outro Music: Soul Over Matter by HATAMITSUNAMI

[@OreTheCoconut]

Seeing an immortal dissapear immediately as it fights the marksmen at the start was insane. . it feels imba lol

[@crusaderpioneer5097]

It must be suck witnesses a Highly Advanced Plasma Shield technology and well shaped armor plating got beaten by a simple Blunderbuss Rifles 😂

[@rosebudio]

Wasn't expecting this game to be casted since I didn't submit it but I always enjoy your casting anyway! I wasn't expecting to go up against someone decent and knowledgeable about the Warcraft 3 techtree since it was just a random custom game I joined, so embarrassingly I fumbled very hard, lol. I really should've went High Templars to storm all those Riflemen and feedback the Sorceress/Priests. Some things to note: - The games you've casted so far have been on Versus Edition, which intends on keeping the basic Starcraft playstyle so there won't be any heroes for the Starcraft factions in this one, but as of right now it is the "most-balanced" and focuses more on PVP. The base version of Azeroth-Koprulu Hyperwar - The Sorceress do not gain bonuses from items. They had Inner Fire on them which increased their damage by 10%, and their main contribution to the fight was the "Slow" ability, which significantly reduces the attack rate and movement speed of a single unit (particularly good against my Immortals and Stalkers). - A lot of the replays posted on the Azeroth-Koprulu Discord are mostly in favor of Warcraft 3 because we rarely get matches as Starcraft where the Warcraft player knows what they're doing, so the matches typically end in a very basic timing push that kills Warcraft 3, which isn't really that fun to watch although it does show how vulnerable Warcraft factions can be.

[@ElleixGaming]

Hey Rosebudio GG! Thanks for the info - that's a great point. I can imagine a lot of the games that favor SC2 might involve players that aren't as experienced with WC3. I'm sure as time goes on we'll start seeing a meta develop! The early push with the hero is crazy

[@Newbtuber]

@@ElleixGaming early push with hero might just be broken. Damage also seems to be all over the place. Toward the end there, the Stalker did no damage toward anything and the priest heal was out healing most of the dps. Why didnt the protoss go DT? Warcraft 3 has very low detection and into HT with storm might of been the proper decision. Those immortal were just useless and gave a lot of experience to the hero. My recommendation is for them to reduce the warcraft supplies to 100. If the warcraft player are expanding that easily and quickly then something is wrong. In Warcraft 3, expanding is very difficult and rarely do game have more then 2 bases and very normal to just have 1 base. Giving Warcraft player 100 extra supplies and easy expansion already break the game.

[@Zaxonage]

Its so funny to hear the guy casting with no experience in Warcraft3. It sounds like the esports casters for random Sc2 events in the early age of WoL :D

[@MegaOgrady]

Ah yes, the classic archimage 2min rush. The peak of SC2 strategy

[@crusaderpioneer5097]

Garithos be proud of these Human army destroying the inhuman beasts 😅

[@OthmarGarithos]

Agreed!

[@failiuredoofus]

I've never seen a starcraft faction win a game in this mod. It seems like the warcraft units are balanced around being too sturdy for them to lose an even army fight against the starcraft armies, which forces the starcraft armies to go for base races or wear down warcraft armies by damaging them over multiple army fights(as in the case of zerg who have a quick remax), and going for base races is a problem because warcraft bases are well defended by comparison.

[@Berzhulas]

Sorceress damage scales with their training level (upgrade). They don't benefit from blacksmith upgrades. They cannot utilize items so she most likely had inner fire on her when you checked her damage value (inner fire gives the effected unit a 10% damage buff).

[@Berzhulas]

A hero with an aura item might also explain it...human heros don't natively have a damage granting aura, but they can obtain one via item.

[@ricorommeldumaplin4822]

I would love to see the undead go against the zerg in this mod

[@ElleixGaming]

From what I've been told undead still needs some work - so I haven't been able to find any replays of it yet but I'm keeping an eye out!

[@BunnyHoppin-]

human is considered the zerg of warcraft 3. undead are more protoss-like. Night elf are closest to terran.

[@abdallahhakeem5185]

@@BunnyHoppin-That’s really interesting! From a lore thematic perspective it’d be closer to have undead v zerg (unstoppable wave of destruction) alliance v terran (humans) night elf v protoss (powerful empire of wise and ancient beings)

[@shoego]

I really like these videos of warcraft and broodwar vs sc2 races. Bring us some new sc1 vs sc2 videos please!

[@ElleixGaming]

I got you man! Rest assured SC1 Vs SC2 is still content I'm planning to make!

[@matthewpereida1261]

Guy needed more disruptors and feedback the heries

[@AlonElishkov]

nice game, really cool to see these comps collide, hope to see more.

[@Jack_Has1000]

I'm looking forward for more Azeroth-Koprulu Hyperwar mod videos like this :)

[@epyonrsi8829]

A bunch of men on horses beating a Protoss army lol. Human units are way too tanky.

[@pencilswordfish]

Those stalkers getting Mothership core PTSD after seeing that Archmage push them with Water elem bs so early heh.

[@seanworld1698]

StarCraft 2 should be allowing to use hero to be balanced. Normal hit from Warcraft 2 is crazy .

[@luckylarry71]

WC3 Heroes can only level up to lvl5 from killing creeps (the mobs guarding expansions), but they gain exp from killing enemy player units up to the maximum level limit (10).

[@elsephiroth666]

I played SC2 and Warcraft 3. All ilya does seems reasonable.

[@seamusmcarthur666]

Futurstic alien technology thay can teleport across galaxies and destory entire planet < Man with pikaxe.

[@Berzhulas]

The maximum level a hero can achieve from neutral creeps is 5.

[@ElleixGaming]

Ah gotcha! Thank you for that correction!

[@vutran7035]

The Human player should have made some mortar teams for long range AOE damage.

[@_PhamTuanCuong]

These mods for Starcraft 2 make it look like you put an army from Grimdark Future to fight against armies from Age of Fantasy from OnePageRules

[@SSMWRX11]

Stormgate is such WC & SC fusion.

[@Zeoinx69]

Even if he didnt play the mod before, doesnt mean he wasnt a former Warcraft 3 player.

[@TMoDDD]

Seeing footman gettin destroyed in secs by stalkers its pretty accurate

[@HErM3sS]

Starcraft need heroes too, or maybe warfracaft heroes should be only captains, rebalance and not able to lvl up

[@satsugekibukouken]

I hope they make warcraft maps in a medieval setting with gold and groves of trees

[@aoyaibaba3090]

Watching a couple of these matches, and it all look to me like the SC2 players are clueless of what to do. They didn't bother research WC3 or even tried out with A.I first somehow. You come in a game vs WC3 you should KNOW the Hero's coming and you didn't bother lock down the gate and build defense? This game would've ended in 5 mins if the Human hard committed to the rush.

[@BunnyHoppin-]

4:55 That is called a "deny" because the experience reward for the stalker's death is denied to the archmage when a neutral creep gets the last hit.

[@ruwibiduya2720]

The priest units literally are moveable shield batteries for the Knights...like Knights by itself is already tanky then you have a Priest that can heal almost half its hp per spell lmao too imbalance 😅😅

[@FenekkuKitsune]

Bear in mind that the wc3 player needs to be able to get to that critical mass. From what I’ve heard, they tend not to, and wc3 has a terrible win rate, losing to a basic timing attack.

[@Velatus5978]

That still means it’s imbalanced if just a single strategy works and late game is just an ff situation, just how Protoss air ball got nerved and Protoss changed needs to happen here too. And just wait till Warcraft players find out how to do timing pushes and build orders themselves. Though one has to keep in mind it’s a fan mod and that means great work and complaining should be less harsh than people are, already amazing just that it’s exist.

[@EvilNecroid]

they need to make it WAR3 vs SC2 vs SC1 and maybe even attempt WAR2 and/or WAR1

[@СашаКабин-п2г]

I am waiting for the undead v terran match up.

[@mojotan5830]

Knife too OP.

[@AlknTekin]

Wc3 player didn't have a good army comp at all, all I see was a problem of balancing. He made a mistake for the second hero choice (should've been high elven mage for a good aoe), got lots of elven healers which is unnecessary, didnt use mortar teams or tanks vs a collossai build I don't know why, all he did was having the human mage hero as a perfect starter and having knights which are too tankier than they should be imo. If I'm not wrong, human player didn't use item shop which is a big disadventage vs stealth units, it was a real good chance for dark templars in an engagement outside of the human base.

[@batmann1115]

I love this!

[@muffinspuffinsEE]

GGs. You can pause a bit when nothing happens :)

[@spray4fun815]

Imagina that People would try and do Pala Rifle vs sc2 race 😂

[@andersodgaard6699]

we need a clean wc3 mod with trees and goldmines etc in the sc2 engine..Will still be better than "reforged I mean REFUNDED"

[@ShiningInTheName]

Warcraft's races are gonna be alot stronger than Starcraft's, because they have Hero units, that empower whole armies with they abilities and themselves in different ways, not to mention, that they could use additional abilities, through various items, that they can carry and use to instantly heal, protect, speed up or teleport themself and whole armies. Each hero is equivalent to Mothership with multiple abilities. So for this mode to be more balanced, i think, either Warcraft's fractions should not have heroes or Starcraft's races should have they own heroes, that would work in similar way with progression of they're abilities and stats, they technically have them in campaigns or commander modes. Just need to adapt them to progression.

[@anthonylaine6111]

Warcraft 3 et SC2 les meilleurs jeux du monde ❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍

[@iliyaSC2]

lol I'm in the video😅

[@ElleixGaming]

Yooo GG! Solid game. That hero rush in the start made for a really interesting game 🤟

[@georgisirakovbg4979]

and why you said no ?

[@iliyaSC2]

I haven't played this mod before​@@georgisirakovbg4979

[@neaxes2180]

for me its looks little unfair, creator of this mod remove fev lack of warcraft 3 arising from them system like 100 units cap but apply all strong aspects like heroes

[@roelbravante3157]

Can you combine all the warcraft 3 mod , scion mods and all custom races mod into a one combined mods??

[@ElleixGaming]

I need to go back and check if it's compatible with Scion but I do know you can go WC3 vs SC1, still have yet to find a replay featuring that sort of matchup!

[@georgisirakovbg4979]

this is insane

[@definitelynotthequestion5359]

Garithos approves.

[@asyrafilanuar4972]

sc1 vs wc3 next! Please~

[@unnamedlegeon]

Question?, how does a gas geyser become a gold mine in base expansion? 😅.

[@MrKyuubiJesus]

Please watch some more WC3. It doesn't take a lot of time to get familiar with the units and structures. Minimum know the names of the heroes such as Arc Mage, Pala, MK and so on

[@MakuBuku]

Sad that there is no map with neutral hero bar

[@spechulfapticks3108]

20:40 no... but i played warcraft 3 for 10 years before ©

[@freedom341]

sc2 units shouls be able to summon also heroes like artanis kerrigan and reynoe

[@ЦХишгээ]

well that would be lost its meaning of this mod isnt it though like you said wanna see it too :)

[@genosyde78]

벨런스 문제보다... 프로토스 유저가 ..... 영.. 블리자드 떨어지는데 추적자 점멸 않하고 그대로 맞고 분열기는 못쓰고 상대 나이트 몸빵 유닛으로 전환 하는데 옵저버로 탐지도 못하고 .....

[@yordantodorov7105]

Why all games I saw warcraft always wins? Is the balance too broken, or you just cast the games where warcraft wins to make the warcraft afns to join StarCraft?

[@ElleixGaming]

Just a lack of replays available - so if you have any games featuring an SC2 victory please send it my way!

[@vandrieco5429]

are there no undead units?

[@ElleixGaming]

Undead is available! I don’t have any replays with them yet but hoping to get them soon!

[@MakuBuku]

Peasants aint buildin scout towers. They build just base tower with no attack which you can upgrade into 1 of 3 forms. Scout, mage(low damage but burns mana) and cannon(AOE damage)

[@GraveUypo]

this mod is so badly made. warcraft units are all much faster and stronger than they should be. priests healing 25 per cast? wtf, they should be tuned down to match the HP scaling in starcraft. they should heal 5. a level 1 hero should also be much weaker

[@Velatus5978]

Wouldn’t say it this harshly but agree a priest just tanked a clossus shooting at it, and only stuff died in the run by really when the disruptors insta killed. Also no clue what one could do against a hero rush, and the knights seem just like way better ultralights and inner fire with +3 armor is just broken in starcraft

[@lancelindlelee7256]

Yeah, WC3 needs to be limited to 100 supply. They are just to strong per unit

[@FenekkuKitsune]

That’s where balancing changes will come in. Also bear in mind we’ve only seen games where wc3 won so far. Apparently there’s many, many games where wc3 loses to a simple basic timing attack.

[@shaider1982]

5:00 wait, a robot with shields taking damage to some guy with a sword? Like an Abrams being taken down by Roman soldiers.

[@AXharoth]

booooooooooooorked OP IMBA

[@general_lhone]

Warcraft unit are so normal it is just starcraft 2 units are so weak

[@ruwibiduya2720]

not really, WC3 Priest only heal a bit of hp per/sec in the original game but here we can see them healing human units to full heal almost instantly. The mod is still imbalance in many ways tbh

[@FenekkuKitsune]

@@ruwibiduya2720Balancing changes will come, but supposedly wc3 actually has a terrible win rate atm. Tends to lose to a basic timing attack.

[@crusaderpioneer5097]

Warcraft units mostly have bigger health compared than Starcraft. And also the armor system are quite different (I think... 'cause I never played the mod) Starcraft armor system are: damage - armor value = damage taken While Warcraft are damage - armor type - armor reduction = damage taken

[@ruwibiduya2720]

@@FenekkuKitsune wc3 winrate is more of a player's mastery of the game units/structure, right now most players that played the mod aren't that good at wc3 tbh. like for example WC3 is known for being able to burrow/tower/ziggurat rush quite fast that Sc2's meta wont be able to defend against it with starting units alone tho... towers meta rush will become obsolete as the game become longer.

[@FenekkuKitsune]

@@ruwibiduya2720 I'm sure more balancing changes will come though.

[@FireRevanShadow]

wc3 is slightly too strong. They need to either nerf hero units or give sc2 hero units for balance.

[@justinpearce3626]

Imbalanced wc3 hp and damage, spells and heroes? really?

[@FenekkuKitsune]

We’re only seeing games where wc3 wins. There’s many, many games of the wc3 player losing to a basic timing attack, but we don’t see those ‘cause they’d be boring. It’s not as imba as you think

[@DrakeLord213]

At this point I am certain you are doing this on purpose with the thumbnail. You don't need a misleading thumbnail featuring the a tile like WARCRAFT 3 VS STARCRAFT 2 When the image is clearly a starcraft 1 Nexus against the warcraft base. Cmon man, it is not that hard to spot the difference I should think.