StarCraft 2 Vs Warcraft 3?! SC Cast Featuring a New Mod!

[@crusaderpioneer5097]

"This is not Warcraft in space!" - Artanis (1998)

[@kadabarVIM]

This aged poorly for Artanis

[@danielgonsalves7093]

Its much more Sophisticated!

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@kadabarVIM Not exactly since that's more of a jab at what journalists were calling StarCraft 1 when it was shown off all those years ago, you can still find screenshots of the very first build of StarCraft 1 and the UI resembled the UI for Warcraft A LOT.

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

protoss: most advanced aliens in the universe zerg: most advanced organisms in the universe warcraft3: MAGIC TIME

[@ElleixGaming]

And the knights going hand to hand with the ultras lmaoooo

[@dakiesalamander5221]

@@ElleixGaming Well... The Knights yell "For the Alliance!" and proceed to fk up a literal demon in the size of a footbal stadium... Frankly, I think they would look at an Ultralisk with a criticizing eye and just asked "Aren't a good boy, they should feed you more you little scrawny baby."

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

@@ElleixGaming my head canon for this is that since firearms and demon fire exists in the Warcraft universe the high-end armor and enchants are just insanely good.

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

Protoss: builds a massive fleet that would make Tassadar proud Orcs: Haha Batrider go BRRRRRRRR

[@yuclement]

@@ElleixGaming To the knights, ultralisk is nothing but just another demon from The Burning Legion

[@magicpainglove]

The day/night cycle is not just for the looks, it is also a core mechanic for night elves. Some of their units can go invis if standing still at night

[@DM-Sym]

That was some straight-up slapstick with the Peasants aggressively chasing after that elusive Protoss Stalker XD A Knight when it sees an Ultralisk: "What a hideous-looking dragon! Have at thee, foul beast!"

[@ElleixGaming]

😂 They were trying their hardest lmao. And I didn't realize the nights are so tanky!!

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Until you realize that the Ultralisk lore wise, the knight would be a mere ant compared to the beast.

[@alikhankalkazbek9547]

​@@cursedhawkins1305 The same could be said when knights fought with Infernals or Doom Guards. Still, these guys hold a line like heroes. So dare to say, that their armor and weapons (Mythril) is just some kind of overpowered and really sharp metal. No wonder why they hold a line against mere dogs(zerglings) and spines from Hydra, that are theoretically not as dangerous as blades forged from pits of hell, lol.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

@@alikhankalkazbek9547 I don't think they're THAT big like an Ultralisk, I remember there being an art piece of an Ultralisk looking at a marine, and the marine was roughly the size of an ant compared to the Ultralisk looking down at it, and that's not even factoring the OTHER Ultralisk variants since there's one that's even BIGGER than the regular Ultralisk.

[@majormajorasic]

@@cursedhawkins1305 SC2 marine is about knee height of a regular Ultralisk and ankle height of an Omegalisk which is the biggest Ultralisk variant.

[@rosebudio]

I feel like if the Protoss actually made a proper ground army instead of spamming Tempests after repeatedly getting destroyed, they'd be able to handle the Warcraft side a lot better because the Zerg was 1v2'ing all game.

[@dryliss7639]

Agreed, think it they did it to make the game more "interesting"

[@MB-tc7tw]

Also I think a neural parasite on the heroes would have been pretty effective.

[@ElleixGaming]

Yeah seeing those tempests melt was rough, but it was also interesting to see how the Warcraft units interact with the SC units!

[@MegaOgrady]

​@@MB-tc7twPretty sure heroic units are immune.

[@viet4life897]

@@rosebudio I'm thinking Archon Immortal Disruptor ball along with High Templar and maybe some Carriers and Tempests mixed could probably held on better than just solely Tempests and Zealots like purple did this game

[@rythmjc3]

Alliance and Horde unite fighting against futuristic aliens lol

[@ElleixGaming]

It's hilarious seeing what are typically enemies teaming up to fight against their common foe lmao

[@rythmjc3]

​@ElleixGaming Nice catch, it really did happened against Burning Legion 😄

[@Azazar]

like almost any WoW expansion ;)

[@Reirainsong]

​@@rythmjc3Generally this happens around the end of every WoW expansion. Dead rising? Dragon of doom? Demon legions? Tentacle horrors from another dimension? Doesn't matter, people who gleefully bash each other in the absence of external threats are just as likely to have each other's back when things get real.

[@FranciscoFloresNyu]

@@rythmjc3 The burning legion should be more powerful right? What protoss is as strong as Archimonde?

[@JesusChriststillheals]

warcraft 3 models in this mod is way better than warcraft 3 reforged models, kudos to the modder

[@dimbasz]

Those aren't modded, there's an entire classic WC3 models, terrain and item cache in SC2 Editior.

[@FenekkuKitsune]

What’s hilarious is that these are the normal Warcraft 3 models that are provided by blizzard in the map editor LOL

[@seanreitmeyer631]

looks better but that movement is so cursed. ughhh

[@jacky-5arh13]

@@dimbasz 這個要去哪裡下載 用魔獸爭霸3模型

[@majormajorasic]

@@seanreitmeyer631 That's what normal movement is supposed to look like, WC3 and SC:BroodWar look like they move 'cursed' because they don't suffer from atrocious pathfinding of older blizzard games.

[@DM-Sym]

Tempests and other strong Protoss air units in SC2 have always felt annoyingly overpowered to me, so seeing Tempests get countered fills me with malicious glee. Also, I'm proud of those Orc Grunts for charging at the Zerg with nothin but axes and green grit.

[@ElleixGaming]

I'm still in awe at how fast those tempests melted

[@DM-Sym]

@@ElleixGaming If I was that Protoss player and that happened to me, I would've been shocked. Mortified, even! TEMPLARS, COMMUNE WITH THE KHALA, THE BATRIDERS HIT THE SECOND WARPGATE😭

[@yeenbaby2891]

ALMIGHTY WAAAAAAGGGHHH😂😂😂😂😂

[@CF-or3ci]

Bruh bugs are fighting orks. It actually became warhammer now(if you are gonna say it was from very beginning because zerg are tyranid plagiarism then stfu)

[@GeorgeFloydGaming-qp7pm]

@@CF-or3ciGW plagiarized blizzard with the tyranids thoughever

[@gemcraft296]

Must say, seems the Starcraft 2 engine's air unit tendency to clump up rather hands itself to the batriders.

[@ElleixGaming]

Those batriders were having a great time with the tempests 😂

[@AnyOneGamingTV]

LOL so funny that I saw the thumbnail and I came to watch the VOD and it was one of MY GAMES ahah. Great casting brother!

[@AnyOneGamingTV]

For the record, I've been playing this MOD a lot in my streams. And RoseBudio is one the of developers of this MOD

[@elnofeo7146]

Hola pana. Me sorprende verte aquí jajaja. Así que sí eras el Anyone del video.

[@DinmaSalitzey]

One thing important in warcraft 3 gameplay is casters that have very strong buff and debuff abilities and summoned units but every race has a way to dispel in warcraft. Starcraft 2 race don't have dispels. Also in warcraft you get exp from killing enemy unit but starcraft get nothing from it so warcraft can keep trading unit without feeding exp while the starcraft player has to care about not feeding exp to heroes.

[@ElleixGaming]

That's a really good point! SC players in the mod have to be really careful to play efficiently or else they might fall behind. A maxed out hero is no joke

[@seanreitmeyer631]

@@ElleixGaming 3 maxed out heroes can tank an entire army. i agree with you when you said to make this more balanced, the sc2 races also need heroes with exp trading

[@mgDuckyyy]

*Rumbling sound approaches* Terran Commander - "You hear that? Who called in Siege Tanks? I want to know who called Siege Tanks onto my battlefield Lieutenant" Terran Marine - "We ain't got no siege tanks Sir" Terran Commander - "Mother Mercy! KNIIIIGHTSSS"

[@ElleixGaming]

A cinematic with marines going up against knights would be gold 😂

[@pavellysenko8278]

Actually, alliance can make siege engines. Have no idea why the player didn't make one.

[@viet4life897]

Peasants getting high off vespene when mining from the "gold mine"

[@ElleixGaming]

Seeing them carrying gold from the vespene geyser was awesome lmao

[@fundamentalconvolution1749]

Keep in mind that, while the War3 units have a lot more health, they're also more expensive and tend to be more limited in army size...

[@shawnruby7011]

And more attack and speed. Wc3 hero abilities get countered hard in sc2 with things like detection and faster movement.

[@felipealvarado8801]

To be honest recruiting a unit just for 5 points of population, that became stronger by time, dosnt seen fair, some can even kill armies like the lich unit or the night elves moon priest. Theyre ultys do a fucking lot of damage, the clossest thing is the Prottoss Mothership and that thing cost a fucking lot of resources and other things required 😂😂

[@lusians3]

@@felipealvarado8801 true but at same time Hero units demand a lot of time investment for them to become monstrous

[@shawnruby7011]

@lusians3 yeah but the only drawback is limiting army size which is completely countered by giving them a ton of stats

[@shawnruby7011]

Wc3 units are naturally going to be limited in army size due to the strategy centering around hero so increasing the supply they cost does little there.

[@hughkhong6580]

This feels like Versus universe. Now imagine if other factions like in Command & Conquer join this battle, this would be so much fun.

[@trollbert06]

Mortal Enemies (Orcs and Humans) vs Mortal Enemies (Zerg and Protoss)

[@ElleixGaming]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

[@beauxlohjab]

Zerg: Purity of Essence Protoss: Purity of Form Humans: Back to work.. Orc: Zub Zub! Warcraft wins

[@vutran7035]

Do you have a Human vs Terran matchup coming up? I'd really like to watch this "mirror" matchup lol.

[@Zeke90k]

Can kodos swallowed ultralisks?

[@zutchandreivillamor2203]

Dear lord oh hell no

[@ЮрийКривошея]

Sorc could make ulttralisk into a sheep and then kodo swallow them. i guess

[@muffinspuffinsEE]

CAN WE HYPE THIS A BIT MORE?? Man this is some good stuff...!!!

[@ElleixGaming]

LET'S GOOO bring the hype!!

[@viet4life897]

Tempests = Sister capital ships of the Protoss Carrier *Gets taken down by a single shot of a Rifleman's blunderbuss*

[@ElleixGaming]

*Gets blown up by a troll on a bat

[@Lucarioux]

I think if protoss switched to ground after seeing those what I would call better scourge they would of stood a chance but instead they kept building into batriders that countered all sc2 air units. Like imagine the potential damage just couple storms or disruptors would do and have stalkers clean up air.

[@ElleixGaming]

If I witnessed my entire tempest fleet fall out of the sky in one second, you bet I'd be switching to ground forever after that lmao. Protoss was a bit behind in production after that commit to air, but I respect it, made for an awesome game!

[@lavatorch]

@@ElleixGaming as a armchair commander i think protoss should have switched to sentry/ disruptor + maybe immortals, zerg should've added some swarmhost, to go with the infestor

[@Doraton1]

That was a lot of Fun. Thanks for the Video!

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

The day and night cycle is interesting, I'd be curious to see how Night Elves fare with things like Shadowmeld (grants a unit invis when they aren't moving and attacking at night time) and Ultravision (bonus sight range at night). Also would be interesting to see Undead vs Zerg and just watch the map get covered in both creep and blight.

[@cursedhawkins1305]

Wait, StarCraft 2 did have a day/night cycle, but it was tied to a specific mission in Wings of Liberty so the modder likely took the code from that and brought it over to simulate the day/night cycle in WarCraft 3.

[@ricorommeldumaplin4822]

Looks like the Kirin tor and the Burning legion messed up the dimensional portal they all ended up in a different universe 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ElleixGaming]

😂 now the horde and alliance have a new foe to worry about

[@ricorommeldumaplin4822]

@@ElleixGaming its also kinda hilarious to see that medieval weapons seems to work well against aliens with carapace as hard as a tank let alone aliens that use energy shields

[@michanowak3001]

@@ricorommeldumaplin4822 Those shields are to hold fast moving objects, not swords.

[@TheAzureGhost]

@@ricorommeldumaplin4822 Ever played Civilisation CoP? I had a Phalanx (i think it was bronze age spear infantery) take down an orbital bomber xD

[@spechulfapticks3108]

Finally, the orcs are in space

[@alvinkharismuda6887]

Its finally here, for years fans have dreamed warcraft in space

[@CrySyboi]

I'de love to see Night Elves and Undead next

[@ElleixGaming]

Expect to see a game featuring the night elves tomorrow 👀👀

[@HoangNguyen-rd6qy]

​@ElleixGaming how does it work with elves? Are they gonna get unlimited gas?

[@nikosantos6821]

How ironic, mortal enemies teaming up against another mortal enemies😂

[@Zibit21]

Bat riders be trollin', man!

[@gohwl96]

big blast radius scourge with charge 🤣🤣

[@majormajorasic]

DA ENDS JUSTIFY DA MEMES!

[@Olagfigh]

The hell is going on. Is this a high fever dream?

[@Sparky31388]

Thanks for the content. Can tell you are super passionate about this stuff.

[@ElleixGaming]

Of course! I’m glad you’re enjoying it. I appreciate the kind words! SC had been my favorite game for years, I’m glad it shows!

[@user-Chaotic]

To note as i remember the air units of the orcs are equivalent to the deagons counterparts in the other side of warcraft. And those orcs air units has actually too much anti Air abilities 😂😂😂 And as i remember the undead also has a stupidly simple strong anti air passive skills on the spider units that will drag air units down and will turn them into helpless targetable ground units. Which the ice undead dragons will destroy also that undead ice dragon has anti building effects like freezing it for a long duration as a passing auto attack 😅 The elfs are even worse they have lightning dragons with higher damage on buildings with the acid effect on auto attacks. 😂

[@Marinealver]

If Blizzard was smart they would license out their engine the same way Unreal is.

[@АнтонДемин-ю4з]

Wanna see heroes with Auras and mass supporting Ultimates allied with SC2 armies. Dreadlord with vampirism aura + Ultralisks, Priestess of the moon with Ranged damage aura for nearly any army and massive AOE Starfall to fully destroy enemies...

[@talonconant8635]

I have wanted this forever.

[@Broockle]

This is so cool, sick af. But at the same time I don't understand how it took so long to get here. We could have had this 10 years ago.

[@YY-mk4ti]

The protoss player man, emotionally torturing me with those Tempest sacrifice

[@lexpavlinov9655]

This is really funny to watch :))

[@santhinal7767]

ok I took notice of you mentioning how tanky knights were for their cost. I would like to point out that Ultras which is the closest SC2 equivelant only cost slightly more while having 180 more HP and 4 more armor. Plus while knights do roughly 10 more dmg per hit they also don't do AOE dmg. The only real advantage knights have is their speed over Ultras. I would consider knights VERY balanced if not slightly underpowered given some of their HP is thanks to an Upgrade they get (similair to Ultra armor) If anythihng I would say the knights should get another point of armor or 20 more HP. Especially since they form a large portion of the DPS and tankiness of late game human ground armies. The ONLY unit that needs some nerfing in this is the bat rider like HOLY fk THOSE things were OP in the SC2 engine. I think if their explosion dmg was brought down by 20-30 dmg while maybe buffing the size of their AOE they would be a bit more fair. the issue is the SC2 engine stacks air units up alot more than the war3 engine did.

[@ceejay1476]

In wc3, air units completely clump up into one while they move, they just separate whe they stop moving

[@zxaoks1090]

I think a big reason they added the day night cycle is because it effects some units for example the night elf’s archer turns invisible at night

[@lobertdeinz9876]

Yoo, the day and night cycle goes hard. Imagine how cool thatd look when Terran at night starts firing their guns against a Swarm of Zerg

[@user-Chaotic]

To note i now remember the bat readers can net down air units making those air units unable to move and targetable for ground units.

[@secretlihim]

Waiting for Diablo 4 vs Call of Duty

[@lexpavlinov9655]

Also, i this it should be tested by dozen players of different levels to improve balance. Those knights and bats look really overpowered.

[@fundamentalconvolution1749]

I'm wondering how the Undead's raise dead options work... Can they only raise War3 unit corpses and use the Graveyard for more?

[@ElleixGaming]

That's actually a great question! I'll see about experimenting with the undead units

[@fundamentalconvolution1749]

@@ElleixGaming Would it be possible to use the blood remains seen by other races as a place holder for their corpses? I'm not sure if that'd even be a viable option or not... I am curious as I like to play Undead lol.

[@fundamentalconvolution1749]

From what I saw in a more recent playthrough on your channel, it looks like they can only raise corpses, which is likely why the Undead stuck to turtling and defense. That's my guess at least.

[@jayedson3408]

@@fundamentalconvolution1749 They had plenty of meat wagons fully loaded with bodies though.

[@fundamentalconvolution1749]

@@jayedson3408 About the only viable solution to an army on the go, but still vulnerable to quick moving units like zerglings. Have to react fast and drop those bodies before the wagon falls.

[@parkere669]

Hey I just found your channel and I love how you show off some modded sc2 stuff, since its pretty hard to come by on youtube for whatever reason. I also saw you also showcased some races from the TUMOE mod. It would be super awesome to see you do a video on a matchup with the paramilitary faction, it is currently my favorite one and it has some super neat characteristics that could make a cool video! (Also I just wanna see how some other people use the race cuz I have zero idea how to use it properly yet)

[@ElleixGaming]

Welcome to the channel, I'm glad you're enjoying the content! When I shifted towards modded SC2 I was surprised we don't see it as often coming from the bigger SC KZbinrs our there. I just learned about the TUMOE mod a couple months ago! I'll see about getting a game featuring the paramilitary faction. If you have any replays of your own with that one please feel free to send it my way!

[@hosemigerusengoku2341]

insane i like it

[@raulcantu4622]

For the Alliance! For the Horde!

[@Lughrochben]

Jaina Proudmoore is who you were thinking of and she is specifically a campaign hero. She has the same moveset as the Archmage however.

[@ElleixGaming]

Ah thanks for the clarification! I knew it was something like 'Jane' but couldn't remember 😂

[@breakingBro325]

It is my first time seeing bat raiders attack air units! They usually can only explode the air units in War3 :)

[@alfredo6494]

The Protoss player was definitely holding them back, i wouldve abandoned air units after those tempest got demolished the first time

[@Nick-hi9gx]

Knight+inner fire+pocket priest+pally aura+arch aura=almost unlimited HP for 10-30 seconds, depending on number of priests, frontage and mana to start with. It is probably the single tankiest setup in Warcraft 3, with possible exception of an Undead setup that is similar.

[@ethanthaman2858]

honestly, i call the human player the "alliance player" to avoid mixing them up with terran

[@ElleixGaming]

That's a great idea! I'll do that in my next cast featuring this one

[@RaiosSephi]

The Tauren Marine will have no idea where to go

[@pavelkulinich9765]

🤣

[@zalin2000]

WC3 heroes where always overpowered. I wouldn't doubt it with the right setup 3 heroes could take down a whole zerg army.

[@exsurgemechprints2671]

is there a Tiberium Wars vs Starcraft in the works?

[@ElleixGaming]

No one has reached out to me yet but I'll see if I can find anything, that would be sick!

[@exsurgemechprints2671]

@@ElleixGaming was just thinking about it later on....tiberium wars is from another IP so this might be impossible.

[@ying-diliu5639]

"Tell me, how did you lose Aiur to these animals? Did they leap up and axe apart your starships?" - Alarak

[@nxiong3399]

❤ this is interesting! I love it, moreee! 😅

[@theblackantonio]

Day/night cycles are solely because of Night Elves. In this game, it doesn't affect anything.

[@mixartjohnson8968]

Stormgate was put out in early access. Your not going to bring that up?

[@jayedson3408]

Batrider AA is op, they also do amazing damage to buildings and are great for sieging.

[@radiobrain94]

would love to see SCII heroes that level up in this mod, super interesting mod already

[@joshallison4857]

"And now we have night-time. That is so cool that they incorporated that into this mod and they could have easily not done that" Night Elves: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@ElleixGaming]

@@joshallison4857 I did the night elves dirty 😭😂

[@Veellinn]

Did they feedback mage?

[@flamegame848]

THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED

[@PeaceCrafter]

Is it possible to add WC3 Reforged graphics in here? Just wondering...

[@ElleixGaming]

To my knowledge the StarCraft editor used for creating this mod has the original Warcraft 3 models built in, so it might be difficult for the developers to import the reforged models into this mod

[@AlerianeDespins]

Naming the hero is not useful. The names were randomly assigned out of a selection on the type. Dun Harpyslayer is the random name that was assigned to the "Tauren Chieftain" , Tenn Flamecaster is the randomly assigned name for the "Archmage".

[@zhaohuangsfm]

Will we ever get Blood Elves. Naga and Ice Trolls? (I still have the WC3 Nirvana mod)

[@zachariastsampasidis8880]

Fiends can't web bcs apparently (massive tag). Had to mass gargoyles casters and wyrms to take out bcs. Dk one shotting nearly everything with lv3 coil is hilarious. I like that some flyers were given utility by making them detectors

[@Pigraider268]

This map variant is pretty experimental. I advice you to check "versus variant" it has a lot balance changes and it's smoother

[@jasonperez-qn3xw]

just... awesome my two favorite games

[@EvilNecroid]

is undead playable? also can we get a playable burning legion?

[@handsomemug3342]

if there are no hero units and lessen the health of the wc3 units i would see this semi balance

[@LaterPatty]

how do you play this mod??

[@yzchenwei]

fking awsome

[@MbimNoz]

Don't get you all fooled, those knights are level 120 Warriors. Bro have seen cataclysm and survive not to mention Legions invasion.

[@StorminNormin411]

Awesome. What we all always wanted. !

[@ElleixGaming]

I'm stoked this mod is finally in a state to cast!

[@MarvicJuneCorpuz]

How to play it though? How yo get the MOD and put it in Starcraft

[@ElleixGaming]

Follow the steps similar to this guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/imPbdIRjpd9-p7Msi=iEY4PrH9g4EJz9wB When you get to the “create with mod” section type “Azeroth” and it should show in the search results

[@dailygoodsupply7893]

seeing warcraft 3 unit destroying the zerg base reminds me Ny'alotha raid back in BFA XD

[@Storlans]

This looks so fun.

[@jimmee2076]

what a content lol. this awsome

[@raxsavvage]

ahh yes, the well known hero - jane :D

[@ElleixGaming]

Lmaooo I was close though!

[@Darlf_Sevil]

Star War Or Craft Craft

[@peterc504]

how do u play this? Sounds epic

[@MasterDuckheart]

For the Horde!

[@ElleixGaming]

For the swarm!

[@zutchandreivillamor2203]

For the Alliance

[@ResourcesHK-y3n]

What is this mod's name, teach me plz!

[@Storm2war]

We have wc 3 in sc 2 but it is possible for a sc 2 in wc 3?

[@ElleixGaming]

That's a good question! I suspect it may be harder to make since the SC2 editor as far as I know has some assets from WC3, so modders don't need to remake all the models

[@Storm2war]

@@ElleixGaming yeah having to model for wc 3 it will be a real challenge

[@TheJuzy]

Just an fyi regarding the hero names, the hero names in WC3 multiplayer (and this mod) are randomized names, they are not from the campaign. Jaina isnt playable in multiplayer also...

[@Gashnaw]

So, this is where space orcs come from...

[@johnmcguigan3]

This is dope!

[@ElleixGaming]

Right?? I'm surprised we didn't see it sooner

[@mythlostintime]

Which is better? Scourge Or Batrider doing the kamikaze

[@viet4life897]

WC3 is supposed to have a tax system based on how large the armies are. In Reign of Chaos 90 is your max supply. In Frozen Throne 100 is your max supply. I figured the balance of the mod would go beyond the constraints of WC3 itself since ROC/TFT focuses on power scaling between small armies and heroes versus large armies/fleets in SC2. I'm curious as to how the mod will incorporate mercenary heroes because that adds on to each of the WC3's four core heroes per faction.

[@ElleixGaming]

I have to double check but I think the modders incorporated adding heroes to a version of this mod for the SC2 races, I'll explore and see what I can find!

[@viet4life897]

@@ElleixGaming Suggested lineup: Terrans - Raynor Swann Stettman Tosh Zerg - Kerrigan Zagara Stukov Abathur Protoss - Artanis Vorazun Fenix Karax

[@jayedson3408]

@@viet4life897 Is Stettman really considered Terran though? I'll trade Vora for Zera, or just have 5 options per race - Move Stett to Zerg, add Tychus and Mengsk to Terran, add Zeratul to Toss.

[@joshuaher8386]

Hopefully they fix the WC3 factions, I tried doing a custom melee SC2 vs WC3. The enemy AI WC3 factions didn't build anything and just farmed mineral with their 5-6 workers...

[@kain7759]

My opinion is that this would work much better on WC3 maps becouse of neutral camps, items and Tavern. Then you give SC players heroes, probably something like Rynor, Rosa, Tosh and Tychus for Terran, Kerrigan, Dehaka, Abathur and Zagara for Zerg and Artanis, Alarac, Tassadar and Zeratul for Protoss

[@cpt.mystic_stirling]

It’s sad this is only a certain number of views. But heros are the bread and butter of WC3. Am in agreement that SC2 should maybe get heros too

[@larach882]

Feels like batriders suicide attack could be nerfed a bit ... Range and speed of that if kinda boosted in comparison to W3, but protos made so much mistakes, if zerg had better teammate they could do better. It's not he is bad but as W3 is counted to less units to singletarget dmg go wild .... But wanna see more games. Amd it's funny as W3 player your commentary is rly funny to me 😂 love that andhome see more matches

[@theblackantonio]

Warcraft units might be overtuned stats wise, but they seem weak to mass shooting early game (especially over cliffs), before they get critical mass. Blink stalkers looked strong, and I think Terran would stomp Human and Orc early. I think Heroes need less stat scaling on later levels.

[@JeremyBilliot]

I would say on the warcraft side they should add all the tavern heros to each of the races' hero buildings. They should also aim to balance the units to go against the starcraft side in the late game. For the starcraft side, they should add hero units to balance the early game against warcraft heros. Is this the mod that also has starcraft 1 also?