StarCraft 2: Zest vs Rogue on ALL NEW MAPS! (Best-of-5)

A series of professional StarCraft 2 between Rogue (Zerg) and Zest (Protoss) on all new maps that have recently been added to StarCraft 2.
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[@ggtt2547]

So, that last game was flawless for Zest. Didn't lose a single unit. That's impressive.

[@kjarllan7097]

yea, he win with the best ratio you can ever make.

[@davidvondoom2853]

Flawless Victory!

[@KW-tx6er]

@@jwpark2392 they need to be removed from game 9ne day, like they removed corrupted terrains from worm unit

[@aabrightlove]

CAN YOU PLEASE NOT?!? This was the top comment and it spoils the series.

[@-Gurza-]

@@aabrightlove Then why would you go to the comments of something you haven't watched yet, lol.

[@lurchgurk7824]

harstem showed that you can kill the doggos with about 26 clicks xD

[@csmlouis]

That guy is such a monster.

[@AAkCN1]

Where? :o

[@SnyperMK2000JclL]

Aah so the warcraft sheep feature

[@lurchgurk7824]

@@AAkCN1 one of his newer videos cant remember which one exactly sorry

[@AAkCN1]

@@lurchgurk7824 ok. Thx nonetheless

[@csmlouis]

Very sneaky. Lowko pulled out the new replay gui for the 2v2 matches the day before, subtly telling us to get over it yesterday, and now it is the new normal gui now.

[@LowkoTV]

Whoa, it was actually an accident but I like your theory

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

The only thing I hate every time they roll out a new gui is that every iteration offers slightly less information. This time, we no longer get a number value for gas/mineral gains per minute. We only get comparative arrows. I never valued those numbers for showing who was making more, I valued those numbers to get a sense of the players' economic power in general.

[@Spartsou]

the new UI is more crisp, but the one Lowko usually uses has more information. they each have their pros and cons.

[@vgrk1]

@@LowkoTV subliminal messaging! No wonder I liked the video, subscribed to this KZbin and his second channel MoreLowko, while also following his twitch live stream channel!!! *GASP* I even gave him my amazon gaming prime subscription, which is free for me because I have amazon prime!! * Curse you Lowko!!!

[@Yayaloy9]

@@SaltpeterTaffy Yes very true, you're playing an RTS game where resources are FAR more crucial than any other game, and somehow the developer thought its a good idea to limit it. Honestly a ducking stupid decision.

[@kurtilein3]

I strongly believe Lowko should play more "Getting over it", the best-of was so ridiculously funny. I watched some other streamers play it, and they basically suck, Lowko is actually talented at that game.

[@EmperorRahem]

Definitely my favorite playthrough of it

[@kurtilein3]

@@EmperorRahem I watched a guide about different strategies and skills, and lowko figured out a few of those intuitively it seems, like chauldron repositioning, different kinds of pogo jumps, and that the chauldron goes high friction when you keep the hammer still. He only played the first half.

[@SebastianKaye]

i remember his amazement when he watched the speed run. but then i thought he would pick up on the technique…. but he didn’t. but yes he did do well intuitively !

[@johannreed8909]

I didn't know someone could play a PERFECT match, especially at the high level.

[@vasdiachenko9403]

Hey Lowko, "Berlingrad" is obviously a play on words with "Berlin" and "Stalingrad" (Stalingrad is a city in USSR, where the most important battle of WW2 happened. Stalingrad was sort of a "last resort" for the Soviet Army. Soviets almost lost there and the battle really turned the tables in the war. After this very battle, the Soviets started their counter-attack which ended with Russians taking over Berlin and forcing Nazis to capitulate). BTW "Grad" means "City" in Russian. P.S. Hi from Mother Russia! Keep posting awesome SC2 content! 😊🇷🇺

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

Well, the most important battle on the Eastern front, anyway. :P I consider Stalingrad, D-Day, and Midway as roughly equal in significance, each the turning points on their respective fronts.

[@electricitybomb]

@@SaltpeterTaffy D-day isnt important at all - it was just to prevent the soviets from taking the whole of europe

[@dzieciak]

@@electricitybomb so, in that case d-day was very important not only in ww2 but in entire history

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

@@electricitybomb I doubt the Soviet soldiers on the ground felt that way.

[@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43]

@@dzieciak Adopting dictatorship is one of the many prices the Russians paid for WWII -- anyone less of a dictator than Stalin could have cost Europe, if not the entire world the second world war. Disputes on D-day's specific importance aside (even if it didn't matter, the American support for the Soviet army on the East front is still crucial to the overall victory against fascism), I don't think WWII is something that the soviets should be criticized about. As for whatever corrupt thing the Soviet Union became after that, it would always find its own way into destruction like it did in history. The Western world's pressure is just one of the many factors that led to its destruction, not to even mention D-Day.

[@M.B___]

Wow, didn't lose anything in match 5 vs rogue, zest is such a wild card

[@calebadam2576]

I remember back in the days of SC1 when as zerg you could parasite the critters. I didn't play multiplayer but it was helpful to scout out the computer in missions.

[@AAkCN1]

Thanks for speeding up the early game on pride of altaris.

[@catshadowdragon]

That Pride of Altaris match was painful. Rogue demonstrated the risks of being too cautious. Zest nearly snatched back the victory when Rogue withdrew that roach/ravager army under the threat of Zest's few remaining void rays. He wound up losing almost all the ravagers during the retreat anyway, and he gave up an opportunity to destroy more buildings with them.

[@JosephParker_Nottheboxer]

That high yield base gives minerals 40% faster than normal. 5 + 2 is a 40% increase, means it'll also mine out 40% faster.

[@knivesoutcatchdamouse2137]

Do the gold patches contain the same total amount of minerals as the regular blue ones?

[@JosephParker_Nottheboxer]

@@knivesoutcatchdamouse2137 Yes, same amout of minerals, but due to 7 being taken per trip rather than 5 they dissapear faster.

[@TheKilerbg]

54:12 *Mortal Kombat Voice* : FLAWLESS VICTORY

[@Dank_Lulu]

Just made dinner and was met with a 50 min best-of-5 Lowko cast on the new maps.... literal endorphin rush...

[@SebastianKaye]

I would like to see this in the regular game. then we’d see players learning how to mimic the movement of critters so that they are not discovered while scouting ! 😁😎

[@yamilabugattas3895]

Great series! That last game was very well executed by Zest, really nice. By the way, can you please use the old overlay? It lets us see the income per minute, which can be especially useful when there are gold bases in play.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

God, this really makes me miss Shoutcraft Kings and Totalbiscuit. Rest in peace TB.

[@mrskwid1]

I was thinking the same thing. Just found this channel its starting the scratch the itch.

[@I_am_ENSanity]

@@mrskwid1 Honestly, this is the closest to good old Shoutcraft but just like with Markiplier and Drunk Minecraft I always find myself coming back to Shoutcraft Kings.

[@PandaRizzArg]

Zest on last game: "ok thats it, eenough fulling arround, itts barbaqueen timme! "

[@akpolska]

On the contrary i like it when you move the game forward like this in these kinds of situations

[@pseudocoder78]

Hi Lowko, thanks for the video. I really enjoy your casting of pro games in particular and also some of your lets play series. I've heard you explain why some upgrades are better than others a few times, and I thought I could help you out with this. When you talk about how effective upgrades are, don't get the number of units or attacks or attack speed confused with the actual issue, which is the *amount of damage the upgrade adds compared to the base damage*. In other words, how much of a *percentage increase* does the upgrade give a particular unit?. Examples: +1 to Interceptor attack per upgrade with a base of 5, gives 20% increased damage. +3 to Ultralisk attack per upgrade with a base of 35, gives only an 8.6% increased damage. If you think about it in terms of percentages, you can ignore number of units, number of attacks, attack speed, etc, and still get an apples-to-apples comparison.

[@jasonlynch282]

Interceptor is two attacks so it's really +2 but can get reduced twice as much by foe armor upgrade.

[@abefernandez6546]

I can see Harstem trying to kill the dogs. 😂

[@ynsn3922]

Love the speed up play by the way

[@Keln02]

Queens really are the most op unit in SC2

[@zomgneedaname]

queens vs void ray the meta

[@kylejohnston4738]

@@zomgneedaname I mean their good, but ghosts are most imba out of all untis

[@Shad0wthr0ne]

I actually really like the idea of Zest's build in game 1, if not the overall execution of it. Having the glaive adepts out poking and prodding on the opponents' side of the map, constantly threatening to go in and keeping the opponent on their side while you get up the fleet beacon and additional stargates, seems really good on paper.

[@Shad0wthr0ne]

But I guess it does kinda play itself, 'cause the zerg sees +1 air weapons spinning and thinks "queen push", and then they have an answer for the adepts anyway.

[@ericli9611]

2am in my time zone. Immediate clicked when I saw lowko 🤣

[@chir0pter]

35:10 Zest probably should have taken your advice- Rogue scouted the probes moving down if you look on the minimap, that's why the lings showed up...

[@florianvialou3870]

You need to go outside Lowko, grass in South France is like that, heck even the grass in Paris looks like that

[@joshuafarrell879]

Love best of 5 with zest. And rogue of course, too. May the best win!

[@titocristobal5573]

I love that they finally capitalized the R on Rogue's name, so it no longer reads "DP Grouge".

[@LowkoTV]

He’s got a few different accounts. I think this is his Korean one.

[@juztina7346]

the four layer map nicest... btw which part of the video is the hero tempest?

[@CloudSephiroth]

@LowkoTV please add on your channel a compilation of your Walking Dead Game Play through. That was so entertaining to watch.

[@blockmania3584]

Lowko, can you please tell me the name of the soundtrack at around 5:27?

[@hjm1313]

probably a protoss one

[@MrFastel]

Liked even befor the video just starts. :)

[@Dreforian]

Glittering Ashes may be a play on the old WC2 cheat Glittering Prizes. All those gold minerals, incinerated!

[@sleep3417]

Last match was absolutely brutal. RIP rogue. (I was rooting for protoss as usual)

[@amythystmiriel]

Ha, that callout to Harstem killing critters on sight. Hate to break it to you, but you can also kill the dogs by spam clicking on them.

[@zergterran7409]

Those dogs are huge lmao

[@daemonbyte]

The problem for zerg with void rays is there's no air units they can really use against them so they can abuse that mobility and high ground. You don't need enough queens to take out the voids. You need twice as many queens for 3rd and main.

[@maximesavard-beaudoin560]

dont feel bad going faster in game, i also press ----> key whenever its a little long but i really like the PvZ matchup anyways lol terrans also go quick banshee sometimes, kinda the same tech level as going void in my book love you lowko you are the best ty for your content

[@dominikdabrowski4636]

Idk why but i decided to watch this video at 2x speed ....Its so funny xd its just non stop Lowko talking.

[@stormtrooper421]

Minerals on the conveyer belt drive me nuts.

[@Sprayer-px3tu]

No Lowko, "reduce" rush distance is the right word.

[@josephmcallister2719]

favorite map is pride of altara, all the maps really spice up the entire length of games

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

Game 4 was such a treat.

[@zomgneedaname]

good to watch the pros try and play and come up with new strats, even after when they normally would've caled gg

[@manessuarezserantes9269]

"Dogs are untargetable but, don't ask me why I know this.... But you can actually NUKE THEM"

[@aaroncheng3927]

always keep ur setting backup, pro player XD

[@MrTubeStuck]

Random question. Was there any Island type maps in SC2 ladder history?

[@jasonlynch282]

Not on ladder. If one was on ladder it would create a whole new standard build order for island play. Probably never going to be an island ladder map because maybe 1 race would dominate such play. Also zerg air is really weak. On a air based map. But if a map could be made that was balanced. It would be fun.

[@MrTubeStuck]

I see. Wouldve been fun to see a standard Island map much like how BW ladder had a few sprinkled in, the new maps introduced looks like rehashed map ideas already IMO.

[@coltmorton6022]

12:26 it’s moments like this that makes content here go from A tier to S tier 😂

[@lorddidger]

Lowko, u did not backup the backup? ;)

[@theukrainianone7518]

so game one, Would immortals have been the solution to the queen push? instead of carriers (genuine question)

[@PirateofAE2]

No immortals Cost to much and dont work well against the accompanying ground army without supports. IMO Queens need a Nerf (and hydras a buff) to bring back Hydras into their intended role of countering Air. Likewise to star-gate openers as its basically all we see these days.

[@AxelTT555]

@@PirateofAE2 queens does not need a nerf. fucking voids need a nerf, actually several. they really should not be so cheap and fast.

[@may_on_fire]

We saw Zest opening Stargate before and transitioning into additional gateways, forge and disruptors eventually to defend a queen walk and then swapping back into air

[@hippy3000]

Forgot the CTA at the end?

[@spoken_truth2501]

Does LE stand for limited edition??

[@Owlr4ider]

I get the comparison between hydras and queens in terms of the role they play, however they couldn't be more different. Queens are pretty tanky while hydras are glass cannons. Queens have low dps while hydras have very high dps. Queens aren't particularly fast even on creep while hydras after speed upgrade are super fast. It's not that hydras and queens are the same unit but that the hydras are simply unusable late game due to their glass cannon status and being the only AA option and thus target.

[@daemonbyte]

hydra meet storm. Oh you're all puddles.

[@Owlr4ider]

@@daemonbyte Precisely... Whether it's storms, colossus, disruptors or even just plain old charge zealots, anything that sneezes on hydras kills them. Considering how expensive hydras are and the high amount of tech needed for them they're simply unusable.

[@Pistallion1]

@@Owlr4ider I just feel like you can use this logic for every unit Zerg has. Like in the game with the tempests, rouge built Roaches. Now Roaches need to be built to handle adept, but other the initial moment, lings do everything better. Thr Roaches that basically killer everything protoss had could have been lings and rhe gas Roaches used could have just been used for air tech or even Hydras

[@Owlr4ider]

@@Pistallion1 I disagree, lings don't do everything better than roaches. Roaches have a clearly defined role in the Zerg roster, being the main tanky unit meant to be in the front line to soak up damage. Much like the Terran Marauder and to an extent the Protoss archon. While it's true Roaches don't scale nearly as well as the other 2 options here, when they're good(early and mid game) they're very good. Lings are meant for short overwhelming engagements whereas roaches are meant for attrition warfare, 2 very different tactics. Zerg players simply don't use them in the same way nor for the same reason, unlike queens and hydras which despite their differences are both used as the main anti air unit in their roster.

[@calvinbarriga195]

the little cleaning guys are wallies

[@KokoDeo]

"grad" in bulgarian (град) means city or town. So Berlingrad translates in a way as Berlin city.

[@TyphoonJig]

I would like to see a special upgrade to hydras to make them viable. Maybe something like reducing max healthwith each hit to have some increased efficiency in skirmishes against all 3 races (bypassing toss shield, preventing terran heal/repair and preveting zerg regen especially on mutas and queens). Add to that maybe a +dmg against psionic on the zealot as an upgrade to make queens less of a threat and push zergs toward hydras. Toss vs zerg suffer from having really beefy units with low damage output against each other.

[@flymoolahman2763]

lowko ur the best Starcraft caster

[@flljonh]

Reynor messed up Lowko's hotkeys

[@chir0pter]

52:36 Trilobite fossil!

[@aabrightlove]

Ah yes, tell me more about how zerg has the tools to handle skytoss effectively

[@jacobsvensson8193]

34:38 - "Bly probably has come up with a build that's a little bit too good. Has is probably licking his lips as he sees it". Funny you should mention them specifically, yesterday in the Team League tournament I saw Bly go 1-1 vs MaxPax and Has go 1-1 vs SpeciaL... yes, Bly took the gold as his natural (naturally). I guess Has wanted to 1 up him, so he took both of the gold bases to support his 15+ warp gates

[@peteriscaune9925]

So i accidentaly skipped forvard, and Lowko said ''Hello everyone, and welcome back to a best of E''

[@travisdunlap4526]

I think that Protoss need to rethink their normal instincts on Pride of Altaris if they go for that gold base. The Protoss instinct is "must do damage to the zerg", but if you secure the gold and the zerg doesn't, you already have a solid economic advantage you normally don't have. I think its okay in that case to focus on defense rather than economic harrasment.

[@knivesoutcatchdamouse2137]

You might be on to something there, but I'm not really qualified to strongly agree or disagree.

[@lijay1]

Was I the only one who heard the Street Fighter II guy say "Perfect" at the end there?

[@viktorvince9504]

@LowkoTV u can kill critters simply just clicking on them like 16 times :D

[@MrMillefail]

@LowkoTV You can actually kill the critters by rightclicking them ~20 times

[@Waderboy]

im sorry im bad but why dont pros chrono out probes at the start?

[@glowyboi7175]

Because you'll get supply blocked and mess up the build

[@Pierre-Jonqueres]

~35:00 It's not a "bad" map with that layering, you have to adapt your strat, not follow the meta ^^ Like it's a superb map for Swarm Hosts, Colossi, Tempests, Siege Tanks, Reapers, Disruptos

[@Jai-xv5gz]

yeah, sure, but on your list the only zerg unit listed was the swarm host, which basically suck anyway, especially at the pro level, so you can understand why a zerg player would have some gripes with the map.

[@Pierre-Jonqueres]

@@Jai-xv5gz Nydus, Lurker/Bane drops too, but yeah, I understand, but I feel like "bad" is a bit too much ^^

[@dougfax]

"So 10 workers might be ok" in the same second 10 more dies

[@jochuenchow5360]

Its GSL tournament 2021

[@IngensViator]

Finally some protoss action hero

[@reimalaluan9694]

Protoss actually won a series on a Lowko video. This is new.

[@user-vv2yz2ht4l]

Last game is like: efficiency over limit !

[@TheCoastalRipper]

would giving the hydras their 2 upgrades for free make them more viable (viable enough to be played) lowko?

[@LowkoTV]

They used to be combined and the timing attacks were considered a bit too strong. I'm not sure how that would play out in the current meta though.

[@Jabawalk]

something like reduce the cost of hydras (maybe add that cost to lurker) would help? I do feel the antiair option for zerg is too limited. the only 2 vaible solution is the queens and corruptors

[@Boedullus1]

Great series. Not a big fan of the new display format - less info available and all. Hopefully just that way because of SAHSC?

[@newohopper5434]

Nice

[@ehk5948]

You can explode the dogs by clicking it even though it doesn't get the green circle around them.

[@EstelleFGC]

my personal favourite map is Berlingrad as Terran

[@Dhurak57]

29:50 The true downside of queens instead of hydras is the lack of rally point, it takes so much apm to group your queens that's why low level player play hydra instead, not because they r clueless but because we can't manage the queens spawning at the later phases of the game

[@Dhurak57]

If blizzard ( lol ) would make the queen follow the same rally points as the one for larvaes, you wouldn't see hydra anymore, and much more queens in late ZvT

[@tbone8358]

Why do the zerglings have red wings

[@spokoman23]

Zest is great at making new build orders, but his decision making is sub par complared to other pros. For example, is your hiding a gold expo, just leave the probe at the base. If you let it go back to the natural it will get scouted.

[@macnaf1130]

Where is the old hud ;cc

[@MetalMan1245]

Yes.

[@Alex84575]

I don't like that we can't see the players income on the new overlay.

[@AD-lr6pc]

Lowko, If u spam clicks on the dog u can explode it.🤯

[@TrueThanny]

15:12 Nope. You can kill the dogs by clicking on them about 16 times in a row. That makes them explode.

[@Dimythios]

The cleaning bots to me is paying Homage to Wall-E and its Cleaning Bot.

[@loki200]

Reupload seems to work :D

[@dylansuckley7594]

Dude! You are the best! You could commentate on my little pony and I would watch!

[@1.-ulysses334]

You can kill the dogs by clicking a lot on them. edit: Please don't ask how I know...

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

Tried to pet them, ended up petting them to death.

[@Kairalii]

can you make instant premiere on your next video?

[@gergosimon9186]

You can actually kill the doggos by repeatedly left clicking on the. Even though they are untargetable.

[@Necie06]

The dogs on Berlingrad CAN be killed by simply clicking them like 20 times, no units or splash damage necessary.

[@HienNguyen-fg4do]

15:24 there is another way to kill the dog. That is click on it like a mad man and it will explode.

[@MrSergecj]

So basically make void rays and just A move. If it works on Rogue, it should work on any one.

[@hamburgers7817]

Lowko u can kill the dog, Harstem does it.. just left click 16 times on it.

[@Syagrius91]

Cleaning bots on creep. Sure, why not lol

[@Pulver]

Gameplay sound a bit low ;)

[@danielbob6900]

Cleaning bots are for Cleaning up after the match ends

[@zomgneedaname]

So basically this was void rays vs zerg

[@greaterFool3765]

I think a big downside of Queens is, that they don't need larvae. You can only make one at a time per hatch.

[@viciousal129]

That's actually a big upside to queens, when larvae can be a limiting factor in production early on, or when you need to pull the queens for an extended period of time and are forced to miss injects. They're the only combat unit a zerg can build that doesn't eat into drone production.

[@greaterFool3765]

@@viciousal129My comment was about the very last minute of the video. Earlier Lowko said, that it was a plus, that Queens don't need larvae, but in that moment Rogue probably could've build more Queens if they did consume larvae. Maybe he would've won, or at least prolonged the match. But overall I think it's a plus that the Queens work as they do. Especially in the early game.

[@Elias-fd4qw]

To the 1 disliker.. What is bothering you about this video and why you dont watch this video till the end before you make a suggestion to do so..