Starfield Isn't A "Star Citizen Killer" | But It May Be What You've Been Looking For

[@Ponial]

hell, StarFiled is the reason I even tried Star citizen, as my waiting game

[@a.m.4049]

Does it scratch the itch?

[@warlord0331]

Same. When I first heard a whisper of field I found a few Kickstart and things of the such... non of them has came through yet.

[@KRG30001]

Starfield is legitimately my dream game. I played elite dangerous and thought “god i wish Bethesda would take a crack at something like this”

[@KRG30001]

Great video though

[@brennancurrier806]

Really curious how modding is gonna get for this game, Skyrim had some pretty crazy things over the years

[@fnunez]

@@brennancurrier806 We're going to see exactly what the limits are for DMCA takedowns :D I fully expect to see mods for all the popular scifi ships, and companies like Disney losing their shit.

[@starflydavis1256]

@@brennancurrier806 guarantee someone is going to turn a planet into Tamriel😂😂

[@thequeen901]

@@starflydavis1256 I will be downloading that mod. Just let me play Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim on 3 different planets in Starfield 💀💀🤣🤣

[@Eden_North]

As a certified space nerd myself I will be playing both.

[@SpaceTomato]

Amen brother!

[@rixxy9204]

I've almost completely stopped playing SC. At first glance I see a few reasons: * Devs effectively missed all promises and goals * No real ingame goal aside from money. Getting that new ship you wanted is a great feeling, but then what next? * Non-existent exploration * No crafting/building * No animals/pets * Complex gameplay and lack of gameloops prevents most new gamers There's probably more to it, but those are the key points that I can think of right now.

[@SvenBolz]

This is the way.

[@berryrareguy]

Hell yeah brother same here

[@Noctrael]

With Starfield so close I expected barely to be able to contain my hype. Baldurs Gate 3 is not just carrying me over, but completely consuming my time at the moment. I can only hope Starfield will eventually do that and carry me over till Star Citizen shapes up.

[@SpaceTomato]

I wish I was more into Baldur's Gate. Really excited for fans of the genre, what a blessing that game seems to be.

[@yeastydynasty]

@@SpaceTomato Take it from me, turn based RPGs weren't my thing till I decided to buy BG3 two days after full release day. Now, that's all I've been playing. Lots of late nights and lots of being tired at work lol.

[@RealKeetz]

@@SpaceTomato It is. It truly is. I am ecstatic about this game. I'll have Starfield as my next go-to after I finally finish BG3. 😍 Thank you for your respect for us RPGers. 😎

[@thequeen901]

​@@yeastydynastyI've never player an isometric game and I generally avoid turn-based games, but I'm gonna give BG3 a try because I'm a huge epic fantasy and RPG fan.

[@dmywololowol]

@@yeastydynasty BG3 is more than just a turn based RPG. What makes the combat work is the D&D dna that it has and the strategy with positioning your party. It's not a mindless turn based combat like many JRPGs are.

[@UriahGnu]

Star Citizen IS the Star Citizen killer!

[@doraxil]

lol

[@SpaceTomato]

😂 this was pretty funny.

[@Ryoga100]

I wanted to say that lol. The game is STILL in development after how many yrs? With 500 million dollars raised?

[@mikemonahan9461]

@@Ryoga100 how can all of you not figure out it's a scam the money people donated is in the guy's bank account making him a crap ton of money off the interest. it's the only reason that makes any sense at this point with the game

[@rixxy9204]

Well said. Terrible Devs and endless promises eventually catch-up to the project. The bugs and awful servers are still persistently killing even the concept of what the game _could_ be.

[@luizhdcosta]

The main thing about Star Citizen for me that I realized in the past year is that although Star Citizen already has and will have a lot of gameplay and things that feel so awesome and I would love to experience, I realize that I won't be able to experience most of those just by nature of its MMO/multiplayer side. I won't have the time/skill or money to experience most of the cool ships, or gameplay loops, I don't have the luxury of dedicating hour longs of uninterrupted game time to experience most of the core loops. I've been trying to hop back in and experience some mining, but the amount of time it takes for me to get started mining after logging in, to just stumble on some pirate or something else and die just make me avoid picking it up.

[@SpaceTomato]

It's definitely more of a sit down and play for hours kinda game

[@depwise1154]

Thank you for this well done "not versus" video. I'm fully in line with it, and I'll be a spoiled space game enthusiast soon, for I'll absolutely play both. Damn these are exciting times :)

[@SpaceTomato]

The space nerds spoiling has begun! Glad you enjoyed this :)

[@jonathanryan9946]

I've been dreaming of a game like Starfield for over 2 decades since I played the Escape Velocity series (a 2d game series) on my friends mac. Games like Elite Dangerous, Star Citizen, or No Man's Sky have kinda scratched that itch, but I was a Morrowind player 20 years ago, so Bethesda's approach was always kinda dream game...

[@christianjadot4459]

I have spent more money in Star Citizen than I care to admit ... That being said, I am slowly leaning to the Starfield type of gameplay. It *sounds* more like what I am looking for in a game. Basically, going to explore the unknown with some sort of story behind it (while flying a spaceship.)

[@idek89]

Hope you find what you're looking for brother whether citizen or field

[@JagHiroshi]

Starfield feels like a great opportunity to take a break from SC whilst it CIG iron a few things out.

[@VantaGenesis]

I keep seeing a lot of commentary from outside the Star Citizen community, about how upset we must be about Starfield's hype and commercial success so far. But even as as Concierge and Evocati in SC myself I personally I can't wait for Starfield. I've played TES and Fallout for years, and being able to do all the classic Bethesda RPG activities in space? Hell yeah. Thanks for the in-depth breakdown Tomato!

[@SpaceTomato]

Honestly I keep cracking up at comments about how "Nobody will want Star Citizen anymore" These are people who have not taking the time to understand WHY people have been playing.

[@hanswurst9866]

I just love that you're clearly expressing how shallow the current gameplay of SC actually is without sugarcoating.

[@SpaceTomato]

I don't find it to be shallow, to be honest. It's missing a lot of features, but the gameplay that has developed like mining shows some real depth to the experience! There is plenty missing, though.

[@IkarosTypeAlpha]

Star Citizen is my dream game, but Starfield is a really close second that will be great at getting me through the long breaks I take with SC (if it ends up being good, anyway) Really looking forward to the futures of both!

[@DawnstealerGaming]

Largely how I see it, too. Just being single-player and an RPG, I think Starfield will scratch an itch SC can't. Likewise, with the social and sim aspects, as you say, will scratch an itch Starfield can't. Hopefully CIG steals some ideas from Starfield in the process.

[@wafflesinsanity]

I for one look forward to both. If anything, Balders Gate 3 shows what happens when a dev company is allowed to take their time, without as much pressure from outside sources, to produce an amazing product. Starfield may do the same thing as well. Starfield has been in story board for over 20 years according to Bethesda. If these two games from fully built development organizations have anything to compare to Star Citizen and CIG. Its that even a NEW company should be given time to cook. Amazing video Tomato.

[@Faolynx]

I don't think Starfield's goal is to overshadow Star Citizen but I really effing hope that starfield should be taken by CIG as a wakeup call and do something to atleast finish Squadron 42. They're taking too much of their sweet time with little to show for (except for those monthly emails containing texts that doesn't have proof if they even actually exist)

[@jonyjony5558]

Facts!

[@brick-2000]

A new game releasing that could be good doesn't automatically make game development faster, if they try to rush the release of squadron we will just end up with a unfinished buggy mess

[@wafflesinsanity]

Why ask them to hurry? Look at Balders Gate 3? It took 7 years for a 4 player aRPG, not nearly the scope of even SQ42. That was with a fully established dev studio and 300 people. Even BG3 had to wait for tech to be available for the game to work how they wanted. Let them cook. BG3 is proof that letting devs cook makes a GREAT game.

[@Faolynx]

@@wafflesinsanity I'm didn't specifically say that they do it rush it. Tho I may framed it that I want to since I said "at least finish Squadron 42". I said that not because I want them to rush whatever it is but at least show an actual or tangible progress. They maybe not doing anything behind the scenes and what do we know. I can't trust something that I can't see

[@SpaceTomato]

I don't think it will change the development. The hold us is really around the game engine being built while ALSO being actively played in. It seriously slows everything down. As it continues to mature, things are speeding up. But I don't think Starfield will change that.

[@lexstriker8502]

I have played Star Citizen, and own my share of ships and subscripted for a bit. However, I am not much of a PvP player, though I do enjoy Co-Op in some cases. I enjoyed SC as a miner just floating around killing rocks. But I did miss the RPG aspect and I felt like I was going nowhere… just making cash. Starfield, I believe based on the hype and released info, will be more to my style. I will still be waiting for Squadron 42 and will play it just to see how it runs. I really enjoyed Commander and Privateer so long ago.

[@ManonCrutches]

Absolute Banger of a video Tomato!, you put all of the space genre into perspective. I think in my humble opinion Starfield will bring that eagerness to venture into the stars to Star Citizen to scratch that multiplayer itch. I can't want to play Starfield, but Starfield will be an enjoyable distraction, but It also may bring ideas that players can infuse in our beloved sandbox. From a role-playing perspective anyway.

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you my friend! Really excited for the future!

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

You could even pretend it's the same verse

[@seanLeprechaun]

Starfield is looking to be everything I was hoping SC would be. And after putting hundreds of hours into SC and going through the 3.18 debacle, CIG has pretty much lost me. I’m so tired of grinding salvage, mining, or cargo hauling for hours and then getting DC’d only to lose all of it and be reminded by Stockholm syndrome victims that it’s a beta. Just done with it. I want a game that remembers where I left off. And honestly, the single player aspect of Starfield is a bonus. There are enough crappy human beings in the world that get joy out of ruining other people’s nights that I’ll welcome the idea of them staying on SC as pirates.

[@RealKeetz]

Player One Forever, comrade. Welcome to the Lone Wolves. Alone, but never lonely. 😎

[@KRG30001]

Early impressions suggest that Starfield is relatively bug-free and way more life sim than many expected

[@Hangnailer47]

I mean let’s be real, it’s a single player Bethesda game. It’s going to be full of bugs probably still running on oblivions potato engine but it will be amazing. And the modding community is going to have a field day. I’m down for space Skyrim.

[@ryanmitchell4044]

@@Hangnailer47well if there’s one thing star citizen players are used to it’s bugs. It’ll probably feel like there aren’t any bugs at all for most of us.

[@cjloha91]

​@@Hangnailer47there's multiple people hours in with no bugs found. Its already at versiom 1.6.34 so its very well polished.

[@fnunez]

@@Hangnailer47 Remember the original launch was supposed to have been 11-11-22, nine months ago, but after the acquisition the Microsoft guy told Bethesda to put it back in the oven.

[@dmywololowol]

@@Hangnailer47 Even Skyrim Special Edition doesn't run on the same version of Oblivion's CE. You know that people update and improve their sofware right?

[@greatsol2444]

I truly appreciate the honest, straightforward discourse that can be expected from Space Tomato’s channel, truly informative. 🖤

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you!

[@Pyrate_Of_Las_Vegas]

I'm not looking for Starfield to be a Star Citizen killer. I'm looking for Starfield to be a great Space RPG.

[@SpaceTomato]

Same! So happy we are getting an entry in the genre.

[@_lewtz]

I'll play Starfield inbetween Star Citizen patches. But even 1yr down the road, I know me. I'll be done with Starfield, like I was done with Skyrim, and be back with Star Citizen as my main Space Game.

[@fear8220]

This is really good stuff! They're both not tryna outperform each other by doing things better, but by taking different approaches. I didn't get that before.

[@SpaceTomato]

Seriously. 2 different types of games, both aiming to offer something special

[@clark1066]

Am just interested to see how ships compare to Star Citizen. SC has spoiled me for what modeled vehicles are supposed to feel like, they are so perfect.

[@SpaceTomato]

The ships are definitely the most impressive part.

[@M4cex]

While SC is already my favorite game I can see Starfield becoming my favorite game as well. They are not competing for the spot as they're not same type of games. It's like if I was comparing my favorite wine to my favorite beer. After all that doesn't matter. Even if I considered them being the same type of games and pick the other over another I'd still love playing both.

[@SpaceTomato]

Sometimes you need a beer night, sometimes wine is the way!

[@beardedbarnstormer9577]

They are two completely different games. When I want to have a solo dolo experience I'll boot up SF. When I want to be in a living live action universe I'll go SC. Both will have dedicated space on my SSD and in my heart. Anything that expands this genre is a OK with me

[@SpaceTomato]

It's great that we are getting these choices!

[@Joyapp]

Fantastic video. Great production value.

[@Pharesm]

The one thing I'm going to miss in Star Field is two-player co-op...

[@FD-ms2nm]

Thank you for this video. It answered all the questions I had when I first looked at star citizen and didn’t buy in. I didn’t buy in because I already have Starfield downloaded just waiting to unlock on 8/31 8pm but I still was thinking about buying star citizen. Now I know I need to wait. Seems like star citizen is a “work in progress”

[@SpaceTomato]

Most definitely a work in progress! What's being built is amazing, but it's still being built.

[@channelofmojos2779]

I'd say it is purely because it's going to be more accessible to more people. Also, it's feature complete and fully releasing.

[@SpaceTomato]

The accessibility is HUGE

[@dragonpynk5091]

Really thought out video and very informative. Great Job!

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!

[@Sitarow]

It's a little disappointing but it doesn't have a vehicle and a few other things but whatever the case is it's a single player RPG and I'm looking forward to playing.

[@SpaceTomato]

The lack of vehicles is a bummer. We'll have to see how that affects exploration.

[@anno-fw7xn]

Pre reals gang! I think it will be interesting to how well Starfield is polished wenn its done! a will not play it on reals( to be fair am on vacation) but i will play it and hope it give me the same fun Fallout 4 and Skyrim did! And for SC a break is always good!

[@SpaceTomato]

A game with as much legs as Skyrim but in a sci-fi setting is so exciting!

[@KRG30001]

Rumor has it that it’s bug free

[@soplet6121]

I live this kind of comparison and analysis. It gives me insights I've never thought of.

[@SpaceTomato]

Glad it helps!

[@redicanprime1181]

As always, top notch video with a top notch intro. Keep up the great work.

[@SpaceTomato]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Odder-Being]

This was pretty much spot on, well done.

[@LordAikido]

Starfield's existence has shamed star citizen.

[@davewills6121]

That happened a long time ago, and without the assistance of Starfield. Starfield is the future and will endure like most Bethesda's game for decades, Star Citizen is a shadow of Starfield already.

[@grizzleebair]

I plan on playing both. I am a Bethesda fan for years, (primarily Fallout), and joined SC universe this past year. I totally agree with your take. I don't think Starfield is a an SC competitor. They are different games. It may be a bit of competition for just the Squadron 42 portion of SC, hence why CIG has been focusing on that lately, but not really, still different. But the reason I will play both is that I love Sci-Fi and space games and there has not been enough for several years. I don't like the ones where you are stuck in the ship. I like SC because of my Tech background and enjoy that side of it, and playing with friends. I like Bethesda games for a long time now, and am very interested on their take of a space game, especially since it has been a goal of Todd Howard since for ever.

[@SpaceTomato]

Playing both is the real winning strategy.

[@rixxy9204]

I was the doing the opposite - was a fanboy for SC for many years and now just getting into Bethesda games and LOVING it. It's just such an interactive open world and I really get a feel for being "in" the game, not just playing it. Although very different games, I'm just so tired of SC not progressing for _so_ many years and brining very little to the table. It's also *extremely* difficult to bring in new players and convince them that SC is worth getting. As a result of all this, I've basically stopped playing SC altogether

[@RealKeetz]

@@SpaceTomato AYYYYYYYY! 😁👍 Well, provided that SQ42 is good, that is.

[@luker8216]

I LOVED playing Freelancer some 20 years ago. Absolutely loved the story, the ships, just "being in space." So when Star Citizen was announced I got on board almost immediately. And waited... And waited... And waited. I only really got to actually playing it a year or two ago, but I have overall enjoyed it and like what it wants to be. Been playing it a bunch recently and generally have been having a good time (especially since I got the game/my pc to stop crashing while playing it). Though as it is still heavy in development, it just feels "incomplete" where Starfield probably won't. Starfield has me... Cautiously excited for it. I love the space games, but previous Bethesda games like Oblivion and Skyrim and Fallout have just bored the crap out of me and never kept my interest for long. Thank Microsoft for GamePass though, so I can just play Starfield on that. Fingers crossed it can give me the experience I've been looking for (or some of it, at least). Armored Core 6 has me WAY more hyped though. 🤣

[@Clockwerk0_0]

The two hurdles i see myself struggling with in Starfield the most. No atmo flight and every ship although different will more than likely resemble something made by Misc.

[@SpaceTomato]

The atmospheric flight would be great.

[@houstonaut6940]

As always, a beautiful breakdown/ comparison of each game. Thanks for sharing Tomato! Also, I love my Toma-Toes socks, will be wearing them on release day of Starfield!!!!!!

[@SpaceTomato]

Hope we're keeping your toes nice and cozy! Glad you enjoyed :)

[@LF-du4uc]

A list of differences that did t start with one is a released game the other a pre-alpha after a decade+? Seriously? SC is a grift for the ages.

[@TheKinren]

How many features will Chris want to add to Star Citizen after playing Starfield? How long will Star Citizen be more delayed because of what Chris wants to implement from Starfield? LOL

[@Chuck8541]

I think when Star Citizen gets ‘finished’, is when the game dies. I enjoy it now, but it’s always changing, and I’m already looking forward to next years implements - like private docks and rooms. When it’s done, means development pretty much stops. No more major changes, and it just becomes stale, and people walk away. That’s how I am with Elite Dangerous. Loved the concept, though it’s more ‘gamey’ that Star Citizen. But it just got stale nothing much was changing, and then they rolled out whatever game update that was horrible, and my circle of friends got tired of playing it. Same with Eve Online. When the goal is ‘just a game’ which is what Starfield, Elite Dangerous, and Eve all do/did, they have a finished product goal. And they achieve it, and that’s it, it’s done. The best thing about Star Citizen for me is that it has ambitions that are always changing and getting better after implementation. But that’s not for everyone. Many games enjoy the sim feel of Star citizen, and many gamers want to “beat” a game, and go onto the next thing.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@Chuck8541 But CIG already aims for MVP so there is going to be a lot of stuff going to be left to implement. Besides, there is hopefully coming hand crafted missions and stories every couple months to the game after release. I think this would be the only approach to take a step into the mainstream and have people stay or come back. But I do think interest will... change (?) the closer we are to a release. The game realizing is going to clash with expectations of backers. I fear the community outrage will becomes worse before people stop caring and just play the (released) game.

[@briankgarland]

What Star Citizen? There isn't anything to kill yet. 😂

[@MrBucky769]

While Starfield will be my gaming focus for at least awhile after launch, my heart is more towards the feel and world of Star Citizen, Im the player you always see walking around rarely running, i dont over care how much aUEC i make per hour just as long as ive made a profit after i finish my latest mission, I enjoy the full world feel of SC yes even the long tram rides, hell sometimes i just drift in space around a planet or moon just to take it all in, to me SC was going to be the game ive waited my whole life to play and the closest im ever getting to exploring space so unless it completely collapses I'll always be back for more.... but for now it will be nice to explore a more developed universe and not loose my progress.

[@MR-gold-VR-b6j]

I’m playing starfield but star citizen is on the to do list.. so is X4.. I been wanting to play it for a while now.

[@jamesstack3468]

Starfield isn't the Star Citizen killer, RSI is.

[@niakitten2937]

Yeah I don't really understand why people are comparing the two. It's never made sense to me personally.

[@spaced-cadet]

I'm always skeptical whenever I hear 'killer app' and all of its permutations. It's often someone trying to feed the idea that there's supposed to be some kind of usurper.

[@SpaceTomato]

And we get it so often!

[@Pharesm]

Star Citizen over complicates just about everything, while at the same time, the large cities are dead blobs, far, far worse than deserted capitals in early MMORPGs. The ships are the highest quality items - which helps marketing and selling them for hundreds of dollars. Maybe one day, it'll have more enticing game play. But after over a decade, its still a demo of broken tech!

[@echoct506]

Quality work as always Tomato. They're different games for different wants. I'm excited for both.

[@Joseph-wh5of]

TLDR one of these games will release (Starfield) and the other won't (Star Citizen)

[@marcus-vt6ix]

Starfield is the reason I'm first time watching a Starcitizen video

[@rixxy9204]

lol 😃 Star Citizen is an extremely open-world based game. There are no skill points or traditional "leveling" up, you just get placed on a planet and figure out the game as you go along. The player base is super supportive, ships are fun, and the most unique part is that it's *Multiplayer*. Many ships can't even be used at all without a player crew. However, the game is buggy, the servers are terrible, there's no real exploration, and there's no crafting. So overall, there's not a lot of purpose in the game and you're just kind of "there". Although the concept _seems_ cool, the actual game really is not and gets boring quite quickly. Bugs and Servers crashing adds to the rage-quits until most people just give up on the game entirely

[@Chuck8541]

The only difference is, some will play one, some will play both, but in time Starfield will fade to the next AAA game everyone needs to stream for, and Star Citizen will LIKELY still be going strong. Personally, I’m about to start bulders gate and currently play switch games and Star Citizen…I like my lineup, and not really interested in what it seems Starfield is looking like. I’ll let you guys review it for me, and decide further. I don’t think the hype is attainable for starfield. It’s so hyped right now, has been for months, and nobody has even played it. They even got Adam Savage to do ship design or whatever video for it. Which, to me, is the equivalent of Keanu coming out for Cyberpunk. Everyone has so much desire for this game, cuz nothing else but buldergate is out right now. Balloons that you get from parties fade quick. Looking forward to how things play out. 😎

[@krazium1776]

it certainally will kill star citizens player base lol most people on SC play SOLO anyways

[@JamiesPaige]

Thank you ST for the vid! Loving your content as always

[@aka-chi_hurron]

Calling starfield a "star citizen killer" would be like calling skyrim or any of the Witcher games a "world of warcraft killer" they may be set in the same genre and thus are going to have overlapping traits. But like tomato here said, at the end of the day they are two different games with different feel and focus. All its going to do is add another (hopefully) great title to the genre, expose more people to the genre, and inevitably bring more players to the genre as a whole and to star citizen Some might "jump ship" but those people weren't looking for a star citizen game, they were looking for a starfield game and sc was the closest they could get. But there's going to be even more people brought into star citizen than the few that leave.

[@johnfink9020]

Yup. Id buy a PC rn JUST for SC but consoles get hit around this time with releases and theres just too much to buy fml

[@plaernotree]

Beautifully put! ...they've under played seamless planetary entry 😢 but looking at the bright side... let's backfill what would starfield need to be "IT"!?😊

[@AmatuerHourCoding]

they're definitely different games. Star Citizen is aimed at creating an extremely complex multiplayer experience at an absurd level. Starfield is more like Skyrim where there are many, but limited interactions. Its apples and oranges.

[@BirthrightGaming]

This video is so important and relevant to the space adventure game scape. Thank you Space Tomato for covering this in your timeless style of honest and descriptive content. Cheers 🍻

[@SpaceTomato]

Happy to provide! Definitely more to come

[@the_omg3242]

Star Citizen was a good space game for a while. It was a pretty game that allowed you to walk around on planets or fly around in very detailed ships. And now Starfield is about to step into that spot and add a whole lot more. Sure, SC is multiplayer and allows you to fly around near planets. So's Elite Dangerous. Was that enough? Star Citizen USED to make a great first impression. (so much so that I spent way more than was sane) The last few patches, not so much. I read posts on spectrum about people in their first week that are already overwhelmed by how buggy it is and thinking of quitting. I think there's a lot of people that just want to play a space game that will play StarField then look at SC and ask, "why bother? There's so little after all this time."

[@moretoknowshow1887]

I have friends in the gaming journalism side of things who already are playing review code. All so far say that this is one of the best titles they've played from Bethesda in a long time, its a proper adventure that's going to put guys like CR on notice to get off his duff...

[@jrddoubleu514]

Healthy competition in the single player arena. No guarantee that CIG will step up to compete. No guarantee Bethesda will go for the multiplayer/mmo title next. No proof that CIG are even truly competing in either arena. Let's see what Bethsda deliver, and then see how things unfold from there. Either way. I'm hopeful, as Bethesda are a AAA household name. CIG will, or CIG won't. Bethesda will, or Bethesda won't.

[@KRG30001]

Same ive heard great things especially in terms of performance

[@chrisblack4836]

Honestly I think they're both a net positive for each other

[@SpaceTomato]

Absolutely!

[@hdsteve55]

I've given up on Star Citizen. I've been playing it since the beginning and it still never runs worth a crap. It's on an SSD, Ryzen 9 5900X (water cooled), Radeon RX 6950XT, 32 GB Ram and 100+ mbps internet. No other games have any issues, all run on ultra 1440p. I'm looking forward to a real game made by real game developers.

[@Schwing27]

I love your videos man. Never stop!

[@SpaceTomato]

Thank you!

[@jonyjony5558]

Nice Work Tomato!!!!

[@VhectorDesignStudio]

I can’t play Star Citizen… its extremely buggy, it fights you when you play it. The losing it all if you get killed and not finding the body after due to bugs did kill the game for me. Conclusion: Starfield IS the Star Citizen’s killer. No doubt.

[@MicDubTV]

Did not expect to find another black creator who loves space games! Glad I did though, man. Keep up the great work! Fantastic video & you’ve definitely earned my sub 👍🏾

[@harringtonmartin]

Considering I've put over 2k hours into Skyrim and have no intent to stop playing it, I'd say I really have no need for Star Citizen if Starfield lives up to what it promises. Also, it's not an exaggeration to say that Starfield will far surpass Star Citizen once the modding community gets rolling. I'd wager nearly everything the modders do to Starfield will outpace everything added to Star Cirizen over the same amount of time.

[@timentler425]

Comparing a playable game that is actually being released to a barely playable incomplete game with no release date in sight. Makes a lot of sense.

[@rixxy9204]

True Dat! The problem is that SC really isn't much there to promote it. "One day.." "Eventually..." "It's Work in Progress..." these are all answers that seem to come when we talk about SC, and as other studios bring out their games CIG will be left in the dust. When Starfield comes out, would I even be interested to play SQ42 if it came out this year? Maybe? At this point it's really not looking good for CIG.

[@TheAstroPubLive]

Bravo my man!

[@christophermoralesclark]

The missed an opportunity by not naming the buccaneer “gull”. Would have been spot on with the Kraken.

[@TheRealMiniIsHere]

Star Citizen is fun, I enjoy the growth of the same while I spend less time playing games, S.C is my purely only focused game and watching it grow feels like a new game every major patch. From just exploring a ship in the hanger, flying from PO for the first time, Exploring systems that are now "hidden" from the U.E.E data base map that I once explored to taking cargo and defending cargo on the catapillar. Starfield is the game i watch and enjoy watching and love to play but i dont have the time to focus on it right now.

[@ameliarhodes5000]

And right off the bat you draw me into the allure of SC. I want to believe it is playable and the glitches/bugs are minor compared to flying and sailing in Second Life. But as I bought the advance preorder of Starfield, I'll go with it for now. Face it. You were heavily favoring SF at least off the top. And I don't blame you. I hope SC continues to work towards release one day. Maybe after I am ready to move on from SF. With a learning curve yet to begin, I'll keep one foot in Eve Online while I reach for the stars in Starfield. FYI, your conclusion surprised me. Very fair balance once I listened all the way through the video.

[@_lewtz]

As someone who played EVE for years and years. Star Citizen is more fun for me. Even in it's current state.

[@ameliarhodes5000]

@@_lewtz oh I believe you. The biggest draw back in Eve is you never leave the ship. That said, I find both small gang and TIDI Null Sec battles to be a rush.

[@_lewtz]

@@ameliarhodes5000 Small gang for life. I was part of a wormhole pirate group. :P

[@ameliarhodes5000]

@@_lewtz I'll fly NPSI myself.

[@UndeadParrot]

I think the worst case scenario would be that Starfield drains interest from Star Citizen enough, leading diminishing sales for the rest of the year, perhaps even lay-offs, then again affects how much people dare to buy ships and starts a unrecovarable death spiral. And the best case scenario would be that Starfield actually brings in loads new people into SC. Probably end result will be in-between.

[@dwahnaslowdown8887]

I got lost in, "what am I looking at.... is this Starfield? Oh, it's Star Citizen... oh wait, it IS Starfield... Oh, wait... no it's not." Lot's of cool space shots though.

[@TheScreenCapt]

I never felt SF would be a SC killer, but I have always believed it will hurt S42 sales.

[@jkhmr8283]

Chris is fortunate the genre is bare. I would wager most OG's are long gone already anyway because SC isn't at all what we wanted. I personally wasn't sold on Rust in space, WOW in space or Microsoft Flight Sim in space. I was sold on a more immersive Freelancer WITH multiplayer. Go watch the original pitch and see how often Chris references both WC and Freelancer. Of course that's his fanbase, why would they want something completely different? On that experience, Starfield will absolutely steal CIGs thunder, but they never really had it anyway.

[@dontejmoody4480]

Nice vid man

[@TheInsaneupsdriver]

2 things missing, VR and Co-op. multiplayer universes are cool and all but are open to toxic environments that are already popping up on star citizen.

[@soliitudegaming7275]

It may not be a “star citizen killer” in the sense of filling the exact same purpose. But does it entirely reveal that CIG is trash at making content and uses endless excuses that Don’t actually excuse their terrible development cycle? Yep. Does it give all the important aspects of star citizen for a player (minus multiplayer interactions until a mod adds it)? Yep absolutely. The only attack SC fanboys have against Starfield is “but it’s not as immersive because you can’t fly for 30 minutes across a planet to drop off a box” ok cool bro you have fun sitting there afk in quantum travel, I’ll actually warp and then keep having real fun on a finished game with mod support. And it’ll definitely get a multiplayer mod years before SC is finished.

[@Christiano97150]

Def not a Star Citizen killer but I'd for sure call it a Squadron 42 Killer.

[@SpaceTomato]

I think Sq42 is a very different game as well. It's simply not an RPG based around building a story and character. It's a narrative military-heavy space opera. You're taking orders and living the Navy life!

[@pedropovoa86]

"how can you kill that which has no life"

[@Talven81]

You're right, Starfield isn't a Star Citizen killer, SC has done that well enough on its own and Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky beat Starfield to the punch.

[@jrddoubleu514]

It could however, beome, a Star Citizen killer, and at present, it is siming to compete in the Single Player arena in which CIG/SC has supposedly aiming to compete in, and currently, failed to even step into, for over a decade. Let's see what comes after Bethesda have delivered Starfield. What Bethesda and CIG each decide to do respectively, within the SP and MP/MMO arenas, with their relevant titles, released, or otherwise, will determine if one of them suffers. Bethesda dwarf CIG in almost all metrics fivefold.

[@rixxy9204]

I'm sure it won't take much time before someone just makes a multiplayer/Co-op mod for Starfield. At that point SC will be dead.

[@thekingofinfinity]

I never played Star Citizen but I hope modders can mod some of its features like atmospheric flight and some of the cool ships in Starfield.

[@OpticalGreen]

I never was interested in Star Citizen and I will never be. I saw the game and it's not for me. Starfield on the other hand, I am 1000% interested in playing. These 2 games despite visible similarities, they are overall so different.

[@Inar038]

Right, starfield will be shit due to no multiplayer.

[@OpticalGreen]

@@Inar038 I am actually very happy that it is single player, for each their own in the end.

[@brianopheikens2049]

​@@Inar038Multiplayer space games are inheritly bad. SC, ED and EVE both have a huge issue with people just going out and killing for the fun of it. SF are for the people that enjoy playing a space game with out getting ambushed by other players that get off by killing you.

[@CTE-6000EagleVeryHeavyFighter]

Star Citizen sounds like a pain to learn and play

[@wisconsinbound2123]

Good video and well done

[@Ltaustin117]

All I hope is that this brings space games back into the limelight. Its such a neglected genre.

[@SpaceTomato]

Seriously, I can feel the genre brewing!

[@hardcoregammer1964]

You can play Starfield and never touch the story. I’ve actually forgotten my main objective in BGS games. Though I like the ships in Star Citizen, I like the ability to build my own. Dude, there will be people who will spend countless hours ship building in SF. This is not to mention the modding.

[@gavinpowell4607]

How long before we see Star Citizen ships as mods in Starfield?

[@doubledekercouch]

I’ll be getting starfield and i only play SC during freefly events, the monetisation model is why I don’t want to buy it as an ‘early access’ title, where players spend upwards of $300 on a single ship, though given it’s current progress speed we might have FTL tech by the time it releases

[@SimmerCK]

If Cloud Imperium does not show a new vertical slice of Squadron 42 at CitizenCon, which shows how much more the game has improved since that last vertical slice 5 years ago, I just give up being excited about it actually happening. If it comes, it comes, but I will be busy playing and modding Starfield in the meantime.

[@HeliosExeunt]

From how I see it... Singleplayer Freelancer: Starfield Multiplayer Freelancer: Star Citizen

[@j7238]

I hope Starfield ends up being an engaging game, but I have to say that from what I've seen it looks like a more in-depth and rich No Man's Sky. And that's not a bad thing. But it may not really be what I'm looking for from the genre.

[@SpaceTomato]

It definitely won't be for everyone. The best part about these games is we may start seeing even MORE games in the genre that hits the spot for everyone

[@justinsjourney3224]

I'm super excited for Starfield

[@mane4582]

i plan to use Starfield/CP2077 to hold me over till SQ42 for the sci-fi part of my gaming and something else catches my eyes

[@grygaming5519]

Starfield came out probably at the right time. Its probably by far the best onboarding game for many who might want to jump into Star Citizen when it starts ramping up production at least one could hope

[@rickisaacson]

Locking forward to less glitches and no trolls in Starfield. Star Citizen is like a bad relationship. I know I should leave but they're trying so hard and when it's good it's great. When it isn't, it is the only game that has taken a perfectly good day in real life and turned it into a bad one...

[@the_omg3242]

I've been saying that for years. Star Citizen is like dating a really pretty girl that's a total bitch when you're together. You ask yourself "why do I put up with this?" then you reply "look how pretty she is"