The Truth About IGN's 7/10 Problem

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@MikePhalin
@MikePhalin Ай бұрын
Considering IGN gave Alien Isolation 5.9/10 because the reviewer played it on hard and found it to be "too hard" sums up everything.
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 Ай бұрын
This is why you need more than one person reviewing game, it should be at least three per game
@Quizack
@Quizack Ай бұрын
That’s one of my favourite IGN moments, alongside the Cuphead tutorial moment. They’re such a meme
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 Ай бұрын
Famitsu does this. 4 reviewers ​@@unicorntomboy9736
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
Aahahahahaa😊
@Dorgpoop
@Dorgpoop Ай бұрын
​@@Quizack Cuphead is such a difficult game that the guy who got stuck on the tutorial was probably literally incapable of finishing the game.
@window_cat
@window_cat Ай бұрын
KZbin algorithm absolutely killed it with this one
@freetory
@freetory Ай бұрын
Im sure you kiddies are loving the flashy editing. Good video either way tho
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
Yeeeh😮
@CorruptedDogg
@CorruptedDogg Ай бұрын
Legendary pull indeed
@Ultimatium19
@Ultimatium19 Ай бұрын
I give the algorithm 7/10 on this one
@Larry
@Larry Ай бұрын
Over here in the UK, Magazines in the '90s would give games the safe, non-offensive score of 73%, to the point it became an early meme.
@jasonoyola590
@jasonoyola590 Ай бұрын
Hey Larry! Huge fan here hope you’re doing alright
@luckyducky7819
@luckyducky7819 Ай бұрын
I am both sad and not surprised to see this has been going on for decades.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
Yeeeh😮
@GimpyGosling
@GimpyGosling Ай бұрын
'Ello, you
@hossdelgado626
@hossdelgado626 Ай бұрын
Oh hello you
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 Ай бұрын
I always thought it was obvious that they gave a game a 7 when they knew it was bad but didnt want to ruin their access.
@AminaTorsdotter
@AminaTorsdotter Ай бұрын
I've listened to an embarrassing amount of ign podcasts since they started making them, and early on the journos were very open and honest about how close they were with the various dev teams. They would even bitch about how their scores affected the developers bonuses, salaries and career opportunities. Access journalism is the tip of the iceberg.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
Yeeh🎉
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
​@@AminaTorsdotterofccc
@AirLancer
@AirLancer Ай бұрын
@@AminaTorsdotter When you know people's livelihoods are being directly affected by the silly number you stick on the end of an article, that does complicate things somewhat... Consider how the devs for Fallout New Vegas missed their review score-dependent bonus by 1%.
@HNedel
@HNedel Ай бұрын
This just shows how silly basing bonus payments on reviews is… it’s like the crew of a movie would get a bonus based on how good the reviews are
@HaeravonFAQs
@HaeravonFAQs Ай бұрын
A big problem with games journalism is simply how generic their reviews are. They like to play it safe, both with publishers and their audience, so unless they think it's okay to hate on a game (read: there's significant market backlash towards it), most games fall into that vacuous 7.0 to 8.7 score range. We need to expand the range, let 5's be mediocre, that would at least allow more range with review scores. This also falls on the consumer, though - anything that gets below an 8.5 is viewed as a deeply flawed game, which is absurd.
@samtrixOutHands
@samtrixOutHands Ай бұрын
"Pretty fine video, 7/10" - IGN probably
@Dagumus
@Dagumus Ай бұрын
is this your first video if so you killed it
@iFramesOfficial
@iFramesOfficial Ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! Yip, first video. Let the KZbin journey begin!
@Dagumus
@Dagumus Ай бұрын
@@iFramesOfficial your going to do very well the quality was great
@budbud13411
@budbud13411 Ай бұрын
For real, great video.
@schmidth
@schmidth Ай бұрын
@@iFramesOfficial first video? that editing? do you work in a relevant industry or something lol
@TheSpongyMallard
@TheSpongyMallard Ай бұрын
@@schmidth Probably made other videos, but never uploaded or spent a ton of time learning before making a channel.
@iFramesOfficial
@iFramesOfficial Ай бұрын
Wow, thank you all so much for the kind words!
@TrueDetectivePikachu
@TrueDetectivePikachu Ай бұрын
I think the data from the graphs is still not enough info to determine the bias. It would be better to cross reference this with the average review scores by other less known reviewers or reviewers with no incentive. That and compare it with reviewers that are known to have an incentive, making sure the reviews are towards the same games of course
@kevo300
@kevo300 Ай бұрын
I give you 7/10
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 Ай бұрын
​@@kevo3002 much water
@CorruptedDogg
@CorruptedDogg Ай бұрын
The algo’s on your dick bro, congrats! Ride that wave brothaaa
@SquidGains
@SquidGains Ай бұрын
Really solid first video. Seems like you've been doing this a while.
@zobiya17
@zobiya17 Ай бұрын
Dunkey made this point as well a while back and he was spot on. Reviewers are subject to their own tastes and biases, so a score has more context when you have a name and personality to tie it to and therefore can make a more informed decision on whether you'll like it or not. Their inconsistent scoring system with lack of nuance breaks how much weight their score holds.
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 17 күн бұрын
You and Dunkey are absolutely right. The only reviews I put *any* stock in are from guys I've been watching on KZbin for years now.
@MrRickstopher
@MrRickstopher 29 күн бұрын
IGN openly admitting that they don’t review certain games as a standard for a GAME REVIEW COMPANY is completely bananas to me.
@cesarherreros6797
@cesarherreros6797 Ай бұрын
absolutely killer debut for a youtube channel, keep the good work, subscribed
@SystemBD
@SystemBD Ай бұрын
Reviews should be written by at least three reviewers with different levels of familiarity with the genre. It is true that we do not care about who writes the review for IGN... so their editorial team should take advantage of that to present reviews that combine (i.e., not merely promediate) different points of view.
@RonnieBarzel
@RonnieBarzel Ай бұрын
The economics don’t allow that. A site isn’t going to devote multiple people’s entire 40-hour work weeks to a single title, when most reviews barely generate the traffic to justify a single reviewer.
@kinglear6150
@kinglear6150 Ай бұрын
​@@RonnieBarzel Famitsu does it with four reviewers, EGM used to do it with three. Your point probably still holds, but it has been done before.
@maxstr
@maxstr Ай бұрын
People spend years and years trying to get noticed on KZbin. And here we are for a guy that just uploaded his first video. It's like winning the lottery
@demure.SH00T0UT
@demure.SH00T0UT Ай бұрын
Im surprised the IGN Heroes of the Storm 6.5/10 review was not mentioned as it was a pretty big meme. Blizzard roasted IGN by making in game banners/mounts/profile-pics and owning the clearly biased review. It gained so much notoriety that IGN formally re-reviewed it and gave it a 8/10.
@PaddaPlays
@PaddaPlays Ай бұрын
This is very well made! Love the clean feel and vibe. You are a natural on camera-looking forward to watching more!
@iFramesOfficial
@iFramesOfficial Ай бұрын
Thanks Padda, that means a lot coming from you.
@billyfraiser6298
@billyfraiser6298 Ай бұрын
one thing I've noticed that IGN does A LOT is wait until other reviews for games come out, and THEN they'll post their review of the game. As if they're afraid of giving a way off score. Like if they give a game a 3/10 before it's released...... then it's released and every other site/player is giving the game a 9/10... or vice versa.
@domiTenshi
@domiTenshi Ай бұрын
i give this video an IGN/10
@SourRobo8364
@SourRobo8364 Ай бұрын
Personally, I prefer the 5 star method. I rate it as follows. 1 star, fails completely on a fundamental level. 2 stars, it succeeds in a few areas, but a majority of it is bad. Like a game looks nice, playing it is terrible. 3 stars, means everything definitely functions well, but maybe I don't quite like it. 4-5 is when things get more personal.
@VoicesInDark
@VoicesInDark Ай бұрын
A movie review website in our country uses 1 to 5vstars plus an option to rate it as "Garbage." I love that system.
@SweBeach2023
@SweBeach2023 Ай бұрын
True, a 1-10 scale will always have too much weight put on the subjective opinion of the reviewer. While a 1-5 or even a 1-4 scale creates a more fair grading from "garbage" to "functional but subpar" to "pretty good with no real weakness" to "pretty amazing in all or almost all aspects and non weaknesses".
@lenOwOo
@lenOwOo Ай бұрын
They'll just give them 4 out of 5
@billyfraiser6298
@billyfraiser6298 Ай бұрын
5 is way to small of a scale. I actually think either out of 100 or having decimals out of 10 is the best way to go. So like 66/100 or 6.6/10 Only having a scale of five is basically saying: "This game is horrible OR this game is amazing". There is no middle ground. A 3/5 tells me nothing (could be good or bad)....where has a 5/10 tells me the game probably isn't going to be good.
@FlyingGeneral1992
@FlyingGeneral1992 Ай бұрын
“Too much water” never forget
@RonnieBarzel
@RonnieBarzel Ай бұрын
But she was right: The game’s balance was too skewed in favor of water types.
@japhetaguirre4880
@japhetaguirre4880 Ай бұрын
​@@RonnieBarzelYep. If you really watch the review, she has a point.
@frogace55
@frogace55 Ай бұрын
@@japhetaguirre4880 except not really because they put forth that it's to the point where it's mindless in major locations, instead of what it really is (a few routes on the back end on the game)
@da_001
@da_001 Ай бұрын
I NEVER WILL AND UNEDUCATED MOUTH BREATHERS WHO AGREE WITH HER, THOSE WERE DIVE ROUTE IMBECILES, YOU DIVE AND CATCH UNDERWATER MONS IN ADDITION TO ON WATER MONS WITH SURF!!! I LUV WATER MAPS!
@Nazquaza
@Nazquaza Ай бұрын
Nice video! Loved that you had actual data to back uo your opinion
@kenpanderz
@kenpanderz 25 күн бұрын
the best rebuttable to "age is just a number" is "yeah, so is an IGN score".
@Boogfuardan
@Boogfuardan Ай бұрын
Damn gotta thank KZbin for the recommendation, hope you get more subs you deserve it!
@densteria
@densteria Ай бұрын
Great video! Keep up the great work man
@_Hyphema_
@_Hyphema_ Ай бұрын
The SSJ3 joke goes so unfathomably hard
@JBrandonMercer123
@JBrandonMercer123 16 күн бұрын
I would say that a few of us know about Destin from IGN and might say that "Destin from IGN scored this game..." but for the most part, your point stands. I don't know of anyone else.
@Slomoshun4u
@Slomoshun4u Ай бұрын
"We don't go to IGN to be informed about games, we go to be entertained". Facts.
@Shorty_Lickens
@Shorty_Lickens Ай бұрын
I dont trust any big media outlets for reviews any more. Too many of them have been outright caught taking payments for reviews. And the rest are suspect. IGN is possibly the worst one still running. Way too many high scores for games I absolutely hated playing. If the arent dirty they must be stupid or insane. Either way, cant trust em. Cant trust user reviews any more for the same reason. Too many look like shills or write like shills and too many give excellent reviews to big studio products I know are crap. So mostly its just watching twitch streamers playing a game live and if it doesnt look too horrible I'll give it a shot.
@osiriskid0
@osiriskid0 Ай бұрын
Hell sometimes a twitch stream won’t even be enough cause they aren’t good at the game, gotta find a no commentary channel with straight walkthrough playlists
@BlackyGr
@BlackyGr Ай бұрын
After watching this video, I liked subscribed and thinking "Damn you algorithm, why have I not seen anything from this guy before?" Went to check the other vids, only to find that THERE ARE NONE. This was so well made and on point, that I doubt this is your first rodeo. Well done. Loved it.
@argnator
@argnator Ай бұрын
I would refer you to the venerated and long-issued video "Jackie Chan is an 8/10" by youtube creator Star_ That video is 8 years old, but the subject it broaches stretches back to the very founding of professional internet critique.
@pinkchckn
@pinkchckn Ай бұрын
Me thinking I'm watching a big youtuber that I just wasn't aware of, and then I saw the sub number. Subbed to help. Great video, great editing, just some great quality content, keep it up bro
@DomSte128
@DomSte128 Ай бұрын
This is why I respect Jeff Gerstmann, who got fired from Gamespot because he refused to give a good score to a game he didn't like it. Nowadays game journalists don't even play the game they suppose to write about it.
@tuc5987
@tuc5987 Ай бұрын
Don't just make stuff up. Dislike their opinions by all means, but "they don't even play the games"? is just BS.
@lordxmugen
@lordxmugen Ай бұрын
Dude a good portion of urinalists don't even know how to play games. They just do videogames because they couldn't make it as a writer and ACTUAL JOURNALIST after college.
@billdover3165
@billdover3165 Ай бұрын
​@tuc5987 why are you taking it so personal? Kinda weird. If they played the game, then they wouldn't be giving DA Veilguard a 9/10. Take your own advice. Stop spewing nonsense.
@dantauche7917
@dantauche7917 Ай бұрын
​@@tuc5987it's not made up. IGN reviewers have flat out admitted they either hadn't played or BARELY played games they'd reviewed
@KoryCaines
@KoryCaines Ай бұрын
I hope this channel blows up 🔥
@comradecatbug5289
@comradecatbug5289 Ай бұрын
So far, 100 % of your content has been good. Subscribed.
@WanderingSolaire
@WanderingSolaire Ай бұрын
Love your entry into content creation and I hope you keep on creating. This really reminded me of one experience with a gaming journalist I had online. Living in a non-anglophone country (a non-western one at that), some years ago I confronted a reviewer that purposefully gave strategy games mediocre and below scores, or their magazine even outright didn't review them, for in their opinion, that genre wasn't popular, and it wasn't doing what popular games (linear fps/tps games) were doing, so I think the issue is really ingrained and deep-rooted in mainstream journalism.
@StellaKagami
@StellaKagami Ай бұрын
Quality content. Instant sub 👍🏻
@matKilla9801
@matKilla9801 Ай бұрын
Your video inspired me to try and come up with a better review system. Even when you know who the reviewer is, it just means that you know their biases, but the bias still exists. That’s why it’s better to have a massive sample size of reviewers to catch all the various bias and preferences. The score should be binary, either recommended to buy or don’t recommend to buy. Then there can be an optional text review for people to add context for why they liked or didn’t like the game. Make it so anyone can contribute so the sample size can be as big as possible. Then the final score will be out of 100 since it’s a percentage between those who liked it vs those who didn’t. Then I realized, I am really just re-inventing Steam’s review system. I am surprised that nobody has made a website using Steam’s review system for all platforms and games.
@Silverguise
@Silverguise Ай бұрын
Skill Up does this quite well. At least on the recommend vs not recommend scoring system
@AminaTorsdotter
@AminaTorsdotter Ай бұрын
I'll add my comment to the chorus of similar comments. Good video, w algorithm. I used to consume IGN podcasts, reviews and articles like mad. I was a legit fan of ign a decade ago. Even then the scale was useless, and IGN would attempt to justify it to me and other fans to no avail. I havent read anything from ign for years now, and this video sums up a big chunk of our critique very well. Thank you. I am now subbed i look forward to more videos.
@dannybahoobees19
@dannybahoobees19 Ай бұрын
Smashing intro to your channel dude, bravo and keep up the good work! 💪
@_Kakoosh
@_Kakoosh Ай бұрын
IGN reviewers don’t pursue a career in games. They pursue a career in writing
@cal5365
@cal5365 Ай бұрын
"I havent played veilguard" for your own sanity, dont
@RussDnB
@RussDnB Ай бұрын
More than the score, I find myself getting scouted by reviewers reading one sentence out in a higher pitch tune, then putting the response sentence in a lower pitch. Once I’m tuned into it, I just can’t listen and just close out the review.
@cyphre
@cyphre Ай бұрын
The statistics definitely show how accurate the meme truly is. Their excuse "We don't give low scores because we don't review bad games" means they'll only have token bad games on their site to act like they give out low scores.
@TwistdTrip
@TwistdTrip Ай бұрын
Great Video, look forward to what else you have to say and share!
@svee7597
@svee7597 Ай бұрын
What a great video. Can’t believe this is your only one. Looking forward to more.
@HombreGato
@HombreGato Ай бұрын
Back in the day I worked for a huge videogame news outlet and the pressure from companies and readers alike was insane. In the end I had to quit since I was scared of ending up hating games altogether.
@benwilson622
@benwilson622 Ай бұрын
This video needs more views. Informative, entertaining and accurate imo
@justinross9833
@justinross9833 Ай бұрын
IGN has long lost their credibility. They're just a meme at this point.
@jeremysumrak1842
@jeremysumrak1842 26 күн бұрын
I just came to watch this from your BioWare video. You’re producing some very thoughtful content that dives deeper into what we all recognize is a problem, but don’t know its origins or if any attempt was ever made to address it. Thanks again and keep it up! Cheers!
@maskoblackfyre
@maskoblackfyre 24 күн бұрын
In my humble opinion ACG has the best and cleanest review score system in the game review scale: "Buy, Wait for Sale, Never touch" That's all you need. Is the game good enough to pay full price immediately or is it still worth it at a discount or is it just not worth any money? That's all you need.
@eric7591
@eric7591 Ай бұрын
Excellent video man. Good luck on KZbin!
@TVTim86
@TVTim86 25 күн бұрын
Nice to see a reasoned analysis with actual research into this topic.
@FordThunderCougarFalconBird
@FordThunderCougarFalconBird Ай бұрын
This video has great production value. I rate it 7/10 😂(just kidding dude). I’m now subscribed to your channel. Keep it up, and I will watch. 👍
@FatalMasamune
@FatalMasamune Ай бұрын
That's a bold assumption to suggest IGN (or 90% of reviewers) plays the games they review
@DevinZA
@DevinZA Ай бұрын
This is why reviewers like Yahtzee refuses to use scores at the end of the review because it can't properly convey the small things about the review. Same with JeremyJahns with his movie reviews, he made a reviewing system but even he says it really doesn't matter. Watch the review, not the single word or number at the end.
@TheZoenGaming
@TheZoenGaming 25 күн бұрын
I remember one of the mags I subscribed to, back in the '90s when magazines were actually printed, having two reviews for a game: one by someone who likes the game genre, and one who doesn't play that genre normally. I can't remember which mag it was these days, but it was either EGM, OPM or PS Extreme.
@TdotFunk
@TdotFunk Ай бұрын
Your fix is spot on but I think we’re all missing the Goliath: metascore. Thank god for OpenCritic and their tomatometer copy.
@Ashamaxa
@Ashamaxa Ай бұрын
Good stuff mate. You're calm, have a soothing voice and explain your points calmly. As long as you dont step on a giant gymnastic ball, you have a new sub.
@gamewrit0058
@gamewrit0058 28 күн бұрын
2:35 "I haven't played. . ." Please don't. I mean, if you want to, go ahead, but the best part of it is the reused DAI background assets. It's a smaller Andromeda in a DA skin, in my opinion, and while some of my mutuals and friends are really enjoying themselves, I'm glad I played on my sister's console instead of buying it myself, and I gave up after I'd recruited all the companions. I was bored and found most of the casual dialogue cringe. Like reading an outline instead of a polished script with real dialogue (similar to MEA). Like, the dialogue with Jacob Taylor in the clinic in ME3 is smoother.
@Radostin-us7uq
@Radostin-us7uq Ай бұрын
bro the video is great thoughtfull and well presented , but how you clean you glases that well !?=]
@UluoCroc
@UluoCroc Ай бұрын
Impressive video, i have a better understanding of the predicament of IGN. It was nice to watch and very informative. I'm subscribing right now!
@majorshepard2
@majorshepard2 Ай бұрын
Hope to see more in the future. great video, very informative, better memes than i do in this post. 7/10.😎 458 subs is criminal. You will blow up. Keep it up
@cubandictator4063
@cubandictator4063 Ай бұрын
I feel like it’d be a better idea to have a few actual gamers who enjoy various genres and have them play+review games in those genres, instead of journalists who often barely seem to even enjoy or tolerate games.
@benv.4036
@benv.4036 Ай бұрын
That’s a good idea 👍 Second opinions are always welcome in my book.
@asmarmuhammad1632
@asmarmuhammad1632 Ай бұрын
You can't tell this is your first video. Quality is on par with other top players. 👏👏👏
@BraveSirRobin-p5y
@BraveSirRobin-p5y Ай бұрын
For a NewTuber with 1 video, this was absolutely outstanding. Subbed in an instant. Hope you make more.
@2006louisb
@2006louisb Ай бұрын
Stumbling on this has really restored my faith in the algorithm - amazing debut and keep up the good work 👍
@tek_lynx4225
@tek_lynx4225 Ай бұрын
Legacy media is pointless, they have always been questionable even back when it was magazines. Barely qualifying as gamers as you can usually tell by their poor quality reviews, and all companies want from them is a trophy they can blast on their store page\trailer. When I see game that slaps legacy media trophies all over their steam store page, I don't buy those games usually.
@Ca2C4
@Ca2C4 Ай бұрын
Solid video. You'll have 50k rather than 500 subscribers soon.
@youngkhronic2243
@youngkhronic2243 Ай бұрын
556 subs with editing this good is a crime. You earned my sub instantly. I know this is your first video but you definitely deserve more attention
@KhanKhav7
@KhanKhav7 Ай бұрын
Such high quality video for a new channel. Keep doing what you're doing
@Mr-E-Meat
@Mr-E-Meat Ай бұрын
Anyone else remember the cuphead tutorial dumpster fire? Chefs kiss
@harrystyles7466
@harrystyles7466 Ай бұрын
What IGN doing is similar to starbucks naming their coffees "normal, large and extra large" instead of "small, normal and large" only that ign shouldn't try to market a product. Actually, it's even worse: the scores aren't even balanced when you adjust the rating system. They also seem to have no quality control or unifying properties in their reviews other than the branding and the overall ass-licking scores. Of what worth is a reviewing outlet when they can essentially do two reviews of the same game and get two different numbers and opinions where the only similarity is that they both are probably above a 6/10? Even Alana Pierce (the woman you quote) perpetuates the crazy dumb take that "games are just that good nowadays." Well, what do i need you for then? Aside from all that alot of these outlets also have a politics problem in the sense that just like their opinions about games their politics seem to not represent the population at all but instead a minority of heavily left leaning people. Which, lets be honest, is a problem of many journalists, essentially in my country, Germany. And their politics regularly seep into their reviews.
@snakeplissken111
@snakeplissken111 Ай бұрын
Maybe that wouldn't be as much of a problem if the (far) right wouldn't perpetuate the picture of a "LÜGENPRESSE!" as much. Dunno about you. But as a young lad influenced by these folk, trying to get into journalism wouldn't be my first idea. Obviously it's a dirty job, let the other guys do it. ;-) Different topic though. Way different. Score inflation is of course real in Germany's gaming press as well. Gamestar for instance had 80s scores defined as: "Games that get the most out their genre." Well, that's still where most better games end up in (including practically every isometric RPG even way before BG3, some of which even with 90s scores.. I'm a fan of those, but that's generous). And even 60s scores are supposed to be for "ok" games, when in fact, most of the games ending there or lower already have severe issues, oft on a fundamentally technical level (bugs, balance, whathaveyou). Gotta love their Gothic 4 review starting right with: "This ain't a good game". Scoreline? 69%. Almost the equivalent of IGN's seven outta ten for everything. Review aggregators have adopted to this, by the way. That seven outta ten ranges equal to a "mixed" review (only for games though) on Metacritic. And as a flat out "not recommended" on OpenCritic. With so many games supposedly way above average, you gotta make the cut somewhere.
@jinwei996
@jinwei996 Ай бұрын
Blown away by your insightful analysis. Can see your channel ballooning in popularity in no time. Subscribed! 😁
@rffrz-gp2kf
@rffrz-gp2kf Ай бұрын
Excellent video, good pace, well presented and funny. You cracked the formula. When do we get the Dragon Ball tattoo reveal video with your brother?
@pat4711
@pat4711 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah whānau what a video! Big big things ahead
@IvaN-cf7qt
@IvaN-cf7qt Ай бұрын
oh man, i was ready to binge watch more of your videos, but it turned out this is the only video. loved the style , keep it up .
@matheusrios4223
@matheusrios4223 Ай бұрын
When I am asked to give a score to a game, I usually just analize the technical parts of it: art direction (yes, not graphics, art direction), how well optmized it is, if it is well coded or being hold together by duct tape. number scores start to make less and less more sense when some more abstract aspects are tossed in the mix. The IGN 7/10 imho is their "eh, it's fine I guess", the "good enough to pass school" score.
@NekuSonnus
@NekuSonnus Ай бұрын
KZbin algorithm actually doing great work, what is this parallel dimension I found myself in. In all seriousness though I hope you have a long and illustrious journey here man. Let it not change you.
@nahbro7014
@nahbro7014 29 күн бұрын
Criminally underviewed lad, nice work
@sprostongreen
@sprostongreen Ай бұрын
I give this video a 7/10. It has a little something for everyone
@Jakjakattack
@Jakjakattack Ай бұрын
Really happy the algorithm sent this video to me. Really good video :)
@mastazenkei
@mastazenkei Ай бұрын
That's why i look up reviews from youtubers i trust and know what they mean when they give their opinion
@NuStiuFrate
@NuStiuFrate Ай бұрын
Nice edit of IGN shooting around a good review. Good luck with the channel, it's already off to a great start.
@BainesMkII
@BainesMkII Ай бұрын
Who actually determines an IGN score? Polygon states that a reviewer has to meet with a group of senior editors to determine the final score, but there is no indication of just how much say those editors have in the matter. In a similar vein, I once knew a few aspiring freelance reviewers. I know one had a few reviews published (not for IGN or Polygon); he told the story of how he'd written a positive review for a particular game, only for the editor (who may have barely played the game, if at all) to remove some of the positive sections and give the game a lower score before publishing it.
@taketheleep
@taketheleep Ай бұрын
Plenty of comments already providing takes on the actual topic of this video so instead I'll just say that the absolute matter-of-fact casualness you have when describing your Dragon Ball tattoo is a level of confidence the rest of us can only hope to achieve.
@FarmlandSecurityy
@FarmlandSecurityy Ай бұрын
Dude this was awesome! Helluva first vid
@pulsar729
@pulsar729 Ай бұрын
nice video! i like it - greetings from germany ✌ Edit: WOW, i just saw that this is your first video? at least its the first in this channel. The overall quality of your recording, the cut and editing, and above all the research you made and your critical input are very very good. This is not what i would expect from a first video. If it is - keep it up - its allready perfect for me! Take my subscription - i am very eager to see where this channel is going and what will come next.
@Eonymia
@Eonymia Ай бұрын
Game scores were already inflated in the 2000s. I remember reading complaints and musings about this in one of the oldest gaming magazines running (Pelit) even at the time, where the editorial staff mused about how scores had moved "up" on the scale and no one used the bottom half, so mediocre to fine games got 70s and anything under a 70/100 was not worth buying. Iirc the gist was that as a magazine they faced a conundrum: do they follow the "universally accepted" scale, or use the whole scale and how it's difficult to come up with a proper answer to this question.
@DanBray1991
@DanBray1991 Ай бұрын
Something that has bugged me for a long time is how review culture in general is broken. A 5/10 or 3/5 isn't a bad score, it should be what's considered average. With takeaway restaurants for example, if you want to compare and 80% are 4.0-4.9, realistically the review score isn't really helping anyone. There's a Restaurant near where I live that is notorious for how badly it treats staff, undercooking burgers, rude management etc. But it sits at 4.5 to everyone's confusion in the hospitality scene.
@drxym
@drxym Ай бұрын
I think most gaming websites are guilty of payola - they will hype up games with previews and exclusives that obviously point to a financial arrangement with a studio. Their staff receive all expenses paid jollies and swag to go with the new game too. I bet that arrangement also extends to advertising on the website. So there is a very strong incentive for the site to score games higher than they deserve if there is money at stake or if they're scared the advertising will stop or their employees could get blackballed. There is a smell about all these websites to be honest.
@ShadowMoses900
@ShadowMoses900 Ай бұрын
Also, if a game is being advertised on the pages and banners on IGN and GameSpot leading up to it's release, you can guarantee it will recieve a high score by them.
@CorruptedDogg
@CorruptedDogg Ай бұрын
Hey man, awesome first video! This format is great. Your video’s perfect, but your audio is juuust a bit hot. As in there is a tinge too much gain on the mic. It’s noticeable with headphones. Just letting you know!
@ghamski4118
@ghamski4118 Ай бұрын
Good analysis in this video. Id be curious to see the distribution of the difference between IGN review scores and user review scores. Are there just a few notable outliers which generated discussion, or is it a consistent pattern?
@iFramesOfficial
@iFramesOfficial Ай бұрын
Appreciate the comment! That's a great question. While I didn't calculate IGN reviews against user reviews, I did check many of their reviews. Most had a mixed like-to-dislike ratio, especially the more recent ones. This may be a reflection on IGN's reputation rather than the review itself, but it is a point of reference. The ones I highlighted in the video were particular standouts that people really didn't like. What I didn't mention in the video was that the easy, slam-dunk scores like Astrobot, Shadow of the Erdtree, and Metaphor: ReFantazio were received positively, and all the discourse in the comments was about the game rather than what IGN scored it. This was probably because IGN's overall sentiment aligned with that of the people watching it. But when the overall consensus of a game is mixed, that's when things get interesting.
@Yolanda8419
@Yolanda8419 Ай бұрын
Love the research. Hope you do well, it was a lovely informative video.
@marcbraun5342
@marcbraun5342 Ай бұрын
Even with the revised scoring system presented here, God Hand got a 3, that's even more off than the Doom score, that's unexplainable from a person who's paid job it is to judge games and give them a recommendation based on their, supposingly informed, judgement.
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 Ай бұрын
Yeah. In my opinion God hand was one of the best games of 2006
@marcbraun5342
@marcbraun5342 Ай бұрын
@@dmytrosoboliev935 I think so as well. Admittedly it is a hard sell based on video footage, you only recognize it's brilliance when playing. And that's exactly the kind of sell journalists have to do and IGN failed hard on this one, giving the readers and viewers the score they very likely assume the game has when only seing it. Back in the day IGN had more influence, therefore many still haven't played God Hand and just have the 3 in their mind. That sure is one of several reasons why we never have seen something similar, either mechanically and stylistically and that's just wrong.
@VGamingJunkieVT
@VGamingJunkieVT Ай бұрын
I think what he meant to say is games we're forced to say are okay because we don't want to lose early access.
@ramboma4905
@ramboma4905 23 күн бұрын
Dragon Age: The Veilguard on IGN is currently at 90K on December 3/2024, they have reach a new lower.
@kbar4462
@kbar4462 Ай бұрын
Great content and great presentation. Looking forward to next one
@PhilipVeinstein
@PhilipVeinstein Ай бұрын
Great suggestion from my youtube feed. Loved this video! Gonna check your other one 😁😁
@joaquin17171717
@joaquin17171717 Ай бұрын
This video is really well made for a guy with less than 700 subs. You over performed my expectations.
@tantona9315
@tantona9315 Ай бұрын
There are many reasons to dislike IGN that finish way above their comical distribution of 7's.
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