Starfield Performance Upgrade - 40FPS, 60FPS, VRR And More - The Complete Breakdown

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Digital Foundry had early access to the display mode update for Starfield, and we've put together this detailed report on the various performance options and visual settings choices available. While Bethesda recommends a 120Hz display with VRR (as do we actually!), there's a wealth of viable options for those with standard 60Hz screens with no variable refresh rate support... and major cities apart, the game does a good job of hitting 60 frames per second.
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00:00 Overview
00:48 Visual Differences
05:57 Performance Testing
11:43 Analysis and Conclusion

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@leonthesleepy
@leonthesleepy 16 күн бұрын
I hate that these days, the only way to get a stable experience is to wait months, even years after a game's launch in order to get decent performance and stability.
@Scorpion-bp3ec
@Scorpion-bp3ec 16 күн бұрын
That’s why gamers are playing 5+ year old games more
@G360LIVE
@G360LIVE 16 күн бұрын
Don't buy the game at launch. Wait months or years, then buy the game on sale. You get to play the game, and you get it at a cheaper price with all the DLC and fixes.
@Massimoeegeg
@Massimoeegeg 16 күн бұрын
But if they are terrible at 60 fps
@aynrandom3004
@aynrandom3004 16 күн бұрын
r/PatientGamers
@sonnieslim5973
@sonnieslim5973 16 күн бұрын
Well last gen games launched at 30 fps and never got upgraded to 60 so im not sure what the complaints are about
@yaosio
@yaosio 16 күн бұрын
I like the uncapped option because it means Starfield will get a performance boost when the next consoles come out without a patch.
@okay7332
@okay7332 16 күн бұрын
Good point didn’t think of that
@II_Th3oRy_II
@II_Th3oRy_II 16 күн бұрын
Also we will be able to set it to visual 60 FPS for a locked 1440p at 60 FPS mode.
@AristotelesSantosSouza
@AristotelesSantosSouza 16 күн бұрын
Xbox Series X X
@ClapperDan
@ClapperDan 16 күн бұрын
Yes, and no. Creation Engine doesn't really run above 60 fps even on PC. There is a cap in place at the engine level because the physics and timed events in games that use it, rely on a maximum frame rate of 60 fps to operate in a stable manner. Things get a bit wonky above 60 fps. So at best, Starfield on next gen hardware SHOULD be expected to run Visuals at a target 60 FPS, and keep the visuals settings(which mind you aren't maxed out) and the DRS should maintain 4K clarity.
@dazedmaestro1223
@dazedmaestro1223 16 күн бұрын
@@ClapperDan, they changed that for starfield and fallout 76. There's is no more cap after fallout 4.
@sanctanox
@sanctanox 16 күн бұрын
As always: Give consumers the choice and everybody is happy.
@Azerkeux
@Azerkeux 16 күн бұрын
Where can I play the version of the game that isn't written by a self absorbed narcissist?
@ro6uefour50
@ro6uefour50 16 күн бұрын
@@Azerkeuxare you talking about Todd Howard? If so I don’t agree that he is one and also he does not write the games. If you are talking about the lead writer then I can’t give an opinion about him.
@Azerkeux
@Azerkeux 16 күн бұрын
@@ro6uefour50 Emil Pagliarulo. Todd is the CEO/Figurehead and has basically nothing to do with development
@leruty
@leruty 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Developers and DF think that console gamers are stupid and can´t handle multiple modes. 30, 40, 60, unlocked, combining visual with 60 fps etc should be the norm
@eljusticiero322
@eljusticiero322 16 күн бұрын
*hippie
@rocstarang5747
@rocstarang5747 16 күн бұрын
Game companies have conditioned us to wait, and they wonder why sales are down...
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 16 күн бұрын
Wait for a deep sale or wait for it to come to a subscription service because by then the game is fully patched.
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 16 күн бұрын
And yet after waiting the performance is still not perfect.
@Fitzpa14
@Fitzpa14 16 күн бұрын
I thought I heard this games sales were fantastic though?
@houssamelgharbi2235
@houssamelgharbi2235 16 күн бұрын
You don't understand deadlines do you?
@Hispa22
@Hispa22 16 күн бұрын
Starfield vendió más de 12 millones y encima lo tienes en Gamepass😂😂 te parece poco 😂
@chrisvillan88
@chrisvillan88 16 күн бұрын
I might give 40fps a try. Usually a good balance between visuals and responsiveness
@Jonatan606
@Jonatan606 16 күн бұрын
If you have a VRR display, there is no reason not to go for the 60 fps mode.
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 16 күн бұрын
​@@Jonatan606higher res
@Jonatan606
@Jonatan606 16 күн бұрын
@@xtr.7662 The game is almost always CPU bound
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 16 күн бұрын
@@Jonatan606 for 60fps most of the time it isnt only in those towns
@Leon14344_
@Leon14344_ 16 күн бұрын
Yeah no. 60fps or nothing
@nightowl3582
@nightowl3582 16 күн бұрын
As someone who played this a bit on PC(thanks to PC GamePass), I have to say it plays so much nicer at 60 or higher. Everything just feels so much better. This is a welcome update.
@NexGenTek
@NexGenTek 16 күн бұрын
Not at 900p
@ninjaskillzyt
@ninjaskillzyt 16 күн бұрын
aint no way
@georgejones5019
@georgejones5019 16 күн бұрын
​@@NexGenTek Is it 900p or 900p upscale with FSR?
@DoomSlayer87r
@DoomSlayer87r 16 күн бұрын
​@@georgejones5019900p internally and then upscaled by fsr 2 i think they said They should update to fsr 3 and it may do better
@Zuurkool1
@Zuurkool1 16 күн бұрын
I might be downvoted for suggesting this but, yes you are right... so does every other game I have ever played. Starfield is not some kind of outlier, if you own a modern beefy system, you'll want to play a game like this at 60fps+. Unfortunately around launch with a very powerful pc, there were still areas where the fps totally tanked, I remember Akila city to be especially bad. I'm installing it now to see if it has somewhat improved since then.
@CDunn322
@CDunn322 16 күн бұрын
Hopefully by the time the DLC drops, things will perform even better.
@pillarcloud8266
@pillarcloud8266 10 күн бұрын
60fps on visuals with no hud look like a brand new game and looks amazing
@bobbobbins4877
@bobbobbins4877 15 күн бұрын
It's nice to see some games are now giving players more freedom over visual settings. I've often wondered why consoles have been so restrictive in this regard. There's no harm in defaulting to optimised reccomended settings, but also giving the player freedom to tinker.
@theoryofeverywhere6293
@theoryofeverywhere6293 16 күн бұрын
It seems like a 40 fps mode should be available for Series S at some point. 40 fps feels so much better than 30 fps and very nearly as good as 60 fps for me.
@enescustovic1883
@enescustovic1883 16 күн бұрын
spoken like a victim of domestic abuse. "mhm, 40 FPS is just as good as 60 FPS pappa Todd". Disgusting. They don't deserve a dime for Starfield.
@duppypixels
@duppypixels 16 күн бұрын
I always go with 40 over 60 if the option is available. I wish more games supported it this generation honestly. I guess a lot of people dont have the displays
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
@@duppypixels Id push more options like 40 simply so that 60fps becomes a standard option and devs stop forcing stupid 30 on their bloated games. More options is better.
@FoureyesZero
@FoureyesZero 16 күн бұрын
40 fps is a terrible looking slideshow no better than 30 fps.
@_TT90
@_TT90 16 күн бұрын
120Hz TVs are still not common which is needed for 40 FPS mode so I don’t think most developers will put in time to optimize for 40 FPS.
@milsvaard
@milsvaard 16 күн бұрын
This is a good patch, I never expected to get a locked 60fps on the console, but the added higher framerate features and reasonable visual cutbacks are welcomed. Can't wait to jump back in.
@swellerace
@swellerace 16 күн бұрын
Did they pay you to say that?
@milsvaard
@milsvaard 16 күн бұрын
@@swellerace no
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 16 күн бұрын
I'd agree if I wanted to go back, but the game just lost me about half way through. I'm glad it's better for people who care, but I just can't muster the urge to go back to it.
@swellerace
@swellerace 16 күн бұрын
@@milsvaard ok that's good
@f1nkangel
@f1nkangel 15 күн бұрын
It's just nice to be treated like an adult and given the options. For that alone they should be applauded.
@wh5027
@wh5027 15 күн бұрын
Just checked it out and it really makes a difference. Definitely gonna continue my adventure now.
@doxthafox1138
@doxthafox1138 16 күн бұрын
This update is so welcomed. Much needed QoL updates and def fuels my fire for the Shattered Space DLC.
@leoni7649
@leoni7649 16 күн бұрын
Quality of life is what you have when you decide not to play this game
@doxthafox1138
@doxthafox1138 16 күн бұрын
@@leoni7649 ok 👍
@spike5499
@spike5499 16 күн бұрын
@@leoni7649 LMAOOO FAX 🗣
@Iron84
@Iron84 16 күн бұрын
​@@leoni7649no one cares, bye 👋
@EX0007
@EX0007 16 күн бұрын
@@Iron84 You cared enough to comment soo...
@Darkraz
@Darkraz 16 күн бұрын
60fps downloading NOW
@50H3i1
@50H3i1 16 күн бұрын
I Uninstalled one week after launch and waited for this patch
@ScroDiddly
@ScroDiddly 16 күн бұрын
​@@50H3i1 I did the same!
@Patman45
@Patman45 16 күн бұрын
@@50H3i1😂😂
@MrWinnfield
@MrWinnfield 16 күн бұрын
60fps is a lie!
@naywahn
@naywahn 16 күн бұрын
​@@MrWinnfield Yeah, it's more of a target.
@SupertoastGT
@SupertoastGT 16 күн бұрын
60fps in most places and durpy durp in major cities. Exactly what I thought we could get on this hardware. I'm happy with this. Performance wise, we have the game that we should have had at launch. :D
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
No! It's much better to have the game run like trash for the entire experience instead of a few rough spots!
@TheBottleneckedGamer
@TheBottleneckedGamer 16 күн бұрын
Shame the rest of the game is junk 😢
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 16 күн бұрын
Thing is we could have had it at launch. This is basically exactly what Bethesda said they had it running like - decent in most places but poor here and there - before deciding to lock it to 30fps. Honestly not sure why they didn't just give people the option and let the chips fall.
@zeroDOLLARg-Ro
@zeroDOLLARg-Ro 12 күн бұрын
This is exactly why we love Digital Foundry!
@djgroopz4952
@djgroopz4952 15 күн бұрын
This culture of optimisation a year after a game has been released has to stop.
@ajibsaladka
@ajibsaladka 16 күн бұрын
Always buy a free sync premium monitor / tv if you want the complete experience on consoles.
@eruannster
@eruannster 15 күн бұрын
Very happy to see this. Letting users choose how they want to play, perferring frame rates over resolutions/quality settings is a very good trend that I hope all developers embrace. I do find internally rendering at 900p and upscaling to full 4K a pretty strange choice, I wonder if they could trade higher internal resolution for a lower upscaling resolution for better results. Maybe rendering at ~1080p and upscaling to 1440p, or perhaps have a dynamic resolution that lets the internal resolution go higher when there is headroom. It feels like there could be some further balancing/tweaking of this that could reduce the shimmering. Overall, I applaud Bethesda for putting in the effort for these things, although I also think they should have been there at launch. At least a 40 FPS mode or some sort of VRR unlocked mode.
@Shikmusik
@Shikmusik 16 күн бұрын
Going forward. All games should have all these visual options.. 👍 I have a Pc with a 5700x and 4070ti and I play my games at 1440p with 60fps cap at max settings... I'm happy with that.
@Michi-bz6ib
@Michi-bz6ib 16 күн бұрын
Great job, Oliver! Love your videos.
@cloverraven
@cloverraven 16 күн бұрын
Changing the inventory weight in the options makes the game playable again
@jemmi20
@jemmi20 15 күн бұрын
First thing I did. Fk all that crap
@ajread1990
@ajread1990 15 күн бұрын
I have a TV that can do 120hz VRR but only HDR not Dolby Vision at that refresh rate. I don’t really ever notice the difference between properly calibrated HGIG HDR vs Dolby Vision so when playing a multiplayer shooter I use 120 without Dolby. I’m confused by the table at the start of this video. Is it saying to get VRR I have to be in 120hz mode on my Xbox and Tv? Even if I want to play in 60fps target? Ideally I’d play 60fps, visual mode, Dolby vision with my Xbox set to 60fps mode.
@f1nkangel
@f1nkangel 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for the balanced review Oliver. One quick question. So if we need a 120hz capable display to enable 40fps mode, how do we end up hovering around 40fps during testing scenes on a 60fps target? In the old days, if your CRT couldn't flick up to 60hz then you were basically out of luck, but here we have Starfield able to exist at sub 60hz and still display on the VDU - is it simply the disparity which causes issues?
@iconofsin4578
@iconofsin4578 16 күн бұрын
I really liked Starfield and played it almost 200 hours. Im really happy about this update and other enchancements
@okay7332
@okay7332 16 күн бұрын
Same I’m super happy with it!
@clementnunes5070
@clementnunes5070 16 күн бұрын
You know what, I didnt like it much, but I’m happy to see some had fun with it and don’t act like 30fps is worse than WW3 or a crime against humanity.
@swellerace
@swellerace 16 күн бұрын
​@@clementnunes5070lol that's it are you sure because these cost millions of dollars to develop and market so don't expect another one or get your hopes up too much!
@angryjoe98
@angryjoe98 16 күн бұрын
@@clementnunes5070i mean almost my hole life as a gamer i was on console and have been playing primarily at 30fps in the 5th-7th gen you would be lucky if the game ran at a locked 30 so its not a big deal imo. Lucky im a pc guy now
@zq7246
@zq7246 16 күн бұрын
Yes I liked it too. A NASA punk game was what I always wanted
@xecob
@xecob 16 күн бұрын
40fps visuals works best for my on series X on my 120hz TV looks and feels great.
@Salute503
@Salute503 16 күн бұрын
Same here on my LG g2
@DeadPiixxel
@DeadPiixxel 16 күн бұрын
tv? lol get a monitor
@xecob
@xecob 16 күн бұрын
@@DeadPiixxel why? I have a 55 inch 4k 144hz TV with VRR, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, 1000+ nits.. Oh and I do have a monitor, 1440p165hz 32inch HDR.. that's for my PC gaming.. But TV HDR destroys monitor HDR unless you're willing to drop $2-3k on a monitor.
@KevinGross-yr8fu
@KevinGross-yr8fu 15 күн бұрын
​Monitor & Console? 😂?​@@DeadPiixxel
@Windwardcheese9
@Windwardcheese9 13 күн бұрын
Love the updated, space exploration plus gunplay nice. Looks incredible.
@fullmetalboon4670
@fullmetalboon4670 16 күн бұрын
honestly to people who read the comments, the 60fps is a game changer for pc monitors. been playing it on 60fps uncapped with VRR on and the experience is night and day on a monitor. Monitor's don't support interpolation like TV's (transistions one frame to the next smoothly) so 30fps is jarring, and VRR doesn't kick in if the Hz goes under 48Hz. even if you get slow down in the 2 main city hubs, thats only a small minor part of the game. also if you go into accessibility options there are FoV sliders (not sure how new) but having FoV cranked up to 90 and at 60fps (mostly) is a huge win!
@wertywerrtyson5529
@wertywerrtyson5529 15 күн бұрын
Nice to have a 60fps that works in most places. But did they fix HDR yet? It felt like playing on a 2004 cheap LCD even being on an OLED. I couldn’t play because of all the gray. I want deep blacks on my OLED.
@ScrilboBaggins
@ScrilboBaggins 16 күн бұрын
Nice! I welcome this update
@H6rdc0re
@H6rdc0re 16 күн бұрын
With Alex being such big RTS fan I don't understand why there is no Homeworld 3 review yet. It even has Raytracing.
@333hronos
@333hronos 16 күн бұрын
You can see how variable rate shading is working on the most GPU demand areas, like forest with green geysers on Jemison planet. When you stay close to any geyser with rich forest on background. And at least on PC VRS can save much fps in those stress scenarios (depends on tweaking the % value of VRS)
@kauanfontes7790
@kauanfontes7790 16 күн бұрын
I ended up dropping the game after finishing the campaign because those 30 fps on console gave me headaches, everything was too slow, sluggish. Now with these updates, I'll give it another chance and do the New Game Plus. In 2023 and still playing games at 30 fps?? That doesn't make sense, unless it's a game completely focused on narrative like Life is Strange or Hellblade 2, which is coming out in a few days. In those cases, 30 fps won't be too much of a hindrance.
@felyxmillicent6538
@felyxmillicent6538 16 күн бұрын
I haven't been able to stop playing since launch. I've gone through the Unity a dozen times but I can't play a proper role play campaign unless I have every skill maxed. Any update is a piece of dessert.
@bromanoski
@bromanoski 16 күн бұрын
You don’t get bored? What do you do to have fun, I can never get into it
@felyxmillicent6538
@felyxmillicent6538 16 күн бұрын
I imagine myself as the character and am a villain in one universe and a hero in another and create side stories and backgrounds for NPCs. My imagination does the work, and the combat is awesome when you've got phased time and the stealth perks.
@DeadPiixxel
@DeadPiixxel 16 күн бұрын
@@felyxmillicent6538 okay kid
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers 15 күн бұрын
@@DeadPiixxel I'm 53 and I played it 3 times.
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 16 күн бұрын
Playing on Visuals 60 VRR. Feels good, Haven't been to a city yet though but if it drops to 30-40 I'm fine given i played the game a bunch already at 30.
@Mr_Waffle.
@Mr_Waffle. 16 күн бұрын
Thanks for the overview. I think a lot of the downgrades for Performance mode will be unnoticeable when I’m running back and forth doing “couldn’t this be an email?” fetch quests lol
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 16 күн бұрын
Lots of people don't remember that XSX is actually CPU limited. No amount of upscaling can fix that. Upscaling only helps the GPU, which is why visual mode can still reach 60 fps, but performance mode locked at 30 fps puts too much load on the CPU. Performance mode at 30 fps won't stress the XSX GPU at all. Starfield is in fact CPU limited, not GPU limited.
@Finger112
@Finger112 15 күн бұрын
Which only a new console generation will solve or an upgrade from the Series X.
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 15 күн бұрын
@@Finger112 Sadly, PS5 Pro is making the mistake of not upgrading the CPU, they are merely overclocking it while giving it a much stronger GPU. I think PS5 Pro is trying to get 4k solid 60 fps but I fear it may suffer CPU bottleneck in a game like Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077 or the upcoming GTA VI.
@famousfighter2310
@famousfighter2310 14 күн бұрын
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKittyI understand why due to heat and power but I wish the PS5 Pro has a zen 3 cpu in. Imagine similar performance to a 5700x or 5800x3D. Man that would be so good
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty
@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty 14 күн бұрын
@@famousfighter2310 3D cache is currently top tier, it's fucking incredible. I agree Sony made a mistake not drastically upgrading the CPU. A 5700X3D would be ideal.
@famousfighter2310
@famousfighter2310 14 күн бұрын
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Besides too with them using liquid metal. I think they could probably pull it off
@Raupenmann
@Raupenmann 16 күн бұрын
So 120hz mode uncapped for 60fps + is the way to go?
@viagabee9193
@viagabee9193 16 күн бұрын
playing on that rn feels good
@HarrisHakim
@HarrisHakim 16 күн бұрын
Hi how do i enable this 120 hz mode? I have lg c1 oled tv
@cristi8183
@cristi8183 16 күн бұрын
Make sure xbox series x is set to 120 fps. Then in the game menu for display, set performance and uncapped. I'm at the game beginning and it's between 70-80 fps. Obviously, in comparison to 30 fps it's a big difference.
@Salute503
@Salute503 16 күн бұрын
The 40 fps visuals is good to
@MisterBrodo
@MisterBrodo 16 күн бұрын
Do they show the new dialogue camera anywhere in this video?
@infinitysynthesis
@infinitysynthesis 16 күн бұрын
So should i set my tv to 120hz with vrr and choose the 60fps visuals mode?.
@kevclark8661
@kevclark8661 16 күн бұрын
i believe it was 120 on vrr on 60fps in performance mode for best experience ??
@karmamule
@karmamule 16 күн бұрын
@@kevclark8661 Yes that seemed to be his favorite if doing Visuals mode
@ethanaderemi
@ethanaderemi 16 күн бұрын
Might finally pick this up now lolll
@eddywells5689
@eddywells5689 16 күн бұрын
Great vid
@mysticalos
@mysticalos 15 күн бұрын
I'd say the biggest value of options, is that they'll auto scale on future generation hardware without need of later patches
@spacewxranger
@spacewxranger 14 күн бұрын
The only "issue" I've had so far is there are certain pads that when you land you end up under the landing bay. They had that fixed on the last patch but seems to have made a return. Not sure if anyone else had this issue too or not! New Homestead and Gagarin for starters
@matty92k
@matty92k 16 күн бұрын
Running uncapped on visual mode series X OMG the game has its stutters in big areas but overall the level of detail your gettingbis crazy. You can now imagine what stuff feels like now that its so textured
@Whoozurdaddy
@Whoozurdaddy 16 күн бұрын
Eager to try the 120hz uncapped VRR mode. Looks incredible but it looked incredible before and the frame pacing was good at 30 so any added FPS will just be a bonus.
@HarrisHakim
@HarrisHakim 16 күн бұрын
Hi how do you enable 120 hz mode? I have lg c1 oled tv
@CrimsonGear80
@CrimsonGear80 16 күн бұрын
@@HarrisHakim if you have your series X set to output at 120hz in it's video settings then the game will launch automatically in 120hz.
@EmilDahlMusic
@EmilDahlMusic 16 күн бұрын
I'm on a 4k120hz VRR oled. Is Vsync supposed to be greyed out and locked to "ON"? There's no way to turn it off for me
@adds-kz3oc
@adds-kz3oc 16 күн бұрын
VRR requires vsync to be enabled...
@EmilDahlMusic
@EmilDahlMusic 16 күн бұрын
@@adds-kz3oc Cool, didn't know that. Thanks for informing this noob here! 🙋‍♂️
@armadilloseller
@armadilloseller 6 күн бұрын
any chance of getting an updated pc performance guide? they've changed/added quite a bit since your last pc video.
@GeremyG
@GeremyG 16 күн бұрын
I didn’t play the game at launch due to the framerate. Might give it a shot now.
@cratoic1603
@cratoic1603 16 күн бұрын
3:10 For crowd density, I'm 60% sure, you have to load into a new scene for it to take effect e.g., going through a loading screen, to see the difference in crowd density. Quitting and reloading a save once you change it doesn't change the density I'm fairly sure.
@olivermackenzie3250
@olivermackenzie3250 16 күн бұрын
I restarted the game between attempts.
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 16 күн бұрын
Maybe it really needs to load different location and then back
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 16 күн бұрын
@@damianabregba7476 That kinda makes sense, if it saves the position of NPCs into your save game - which might be necessary to not break quests that involve NPCs.
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 16 күн бұрын
I noticed in Bethesda games they don't run physics everywhere, just in areas which had a player or NPC interaction, like on shelves you'll see some items float and not fall due to gravity, pick one up and all of a sudden the entire shelf will have objects falling down. I wonder if this is why cities can slow down, when NPCs are walking nearby other physics objects the game starts simulating them. Hundreds of NPCs then cause the simulation to explode.
@timcallahan6377
@timcallahan6377 11 күн бұрын
I have a Series X but don't have a VRR TV. If I set it to Performance 60 FPS with V Sync on how bad is screen tearing?
@LostInDistance
@LostInDistance 13 күн бұрын
So much better. Really enjoying the survival part of it too. Playing on very hard has actually given the game a much needed challenge and you need to actually take cover. They’ve balanced it nicely. Can only keep on getting better as time goes on.
@bobby1129
@bobby1129 16 күн бұрын
This puts into perspective why they capped at 30 on launch for the smoothest experience
@floppa9415
@floppa9415 16 күн бұрын
Imagine playing a game at release
@concinnus
@concinnus 16 күн бұрын
Portal 2 was great at release...probably the last such game.
@polydypsia6424
@polydypsia6424 16 күн бұрын
Imagine being grateful you did at all
@robthomson1581
@robthomson1581 16 күн бұрын
Honestly it was really good at release. Yeah its defo way better now but it's mostly for QoL reasons. Myself and lots of people I know had an absolut blast playing through from launch day.
@axelhopfinger533
@axelhopfinger533 16 күн бұрын
And a Bugthesda game at that!
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers 15 күн бұрын
I played it at release and the only bug I encountered was one spinnnng person all playthrough.
@zirytowanygracz7758
@zirytowanygracz7758 14 күн бұрын
Is there aby difference in graphics beetwen 30fps and 40fps modes?
@Safetytrousers
@Safetytrousers 15 күн бұрын
If there is a crowd density selection in a game I always turn it to minimum so it's easier to get around.
@Crovon1
@Crovon1 16 күн бұрын
It sounds as though they unlocked the settings that TH said they had when testing the game originally. "It hits 60 but not in all areas stably". Just think how much better the performance will be once they implement FSR3 when it becomes available for console at sometime soon.
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
If that were true (it might be) then it's pretty inexcusable that it took 8 months to patch the game.
@angryjoe98
@angryjoe98 16 күн бұрын
Yep i remember them stating multiple times that for launch they just wanted to make sure the game felt consistent.
@Crovon1
@Crovon1 16 күн бұрын
@@ethanwright752 wel yes, buts is Bethesda and I’ll bet Xbox didn’t want it delayed any longer
@jimbob8992
@jimbob8992 16 күн бұрын
I may have to download this again after deleting it, simply because I find 30fps distracting. Looking forward to 60fps 120hz vrr.
@wastelandangel2463
@wastelandangel2463 13 күн бұрын
I’m playing on capped 60fps, vrr on at 120 in console settings, issue I have is not being able to play with HDR on now as I only have hdmi 2.0. I’ve tried console settings at 60 fps vrr on hdr on, but it’s not as smooth as when I switch to 120.
@KennyJ.
@KennyJ. 16 күн бұрын
That spot in front of the minerals shop in akila is still a FPS killer. Everything runs smooth but at that spot the game says nah F that.
@zonkedmusician1502
@zonkedmusician1502 16 күн бұрын
Nice. Looking forward to trying out the new options.
@Goober89
@Goober89 16 күн бұрын
Still haven't played yet, might wait for the expansion and official mod support
@hannes0000
@hannes0000 16 күн бұрын
Starfield is worth playing in 2028
@theitechlab
@theitechlab 15 күн бұрын
Just moved to PC as of last night (R5 7600 plus a 7900 GRE) because I got tired of being told what resolution/frame rate I can play games at. Starfield was actually the game that pushed me to finally leave the console and move to PC. I say this as someone who really likes Starfield and put a couple hundred hours in on Series X before moving to PC. Regardless, I'm happy that the game is now performing much better on the Series X, the 30 FPS experience was jarring to say the least, especially after playing Fallout 4 at 4K60.
@albl2171
@albl2171 5 күн бұрын
Whats that TV/monitor menu @11:10 ? I mean brand & model ? Btw. Looks like performance -60 or visuals 40fps is the way to play on my LG OLED (120hz VRR) i LOVE IT that they added "uncapped" even tho it dont really makes sense to play with it..
@CityBoi954
@CityBoi954 4 күн бұрын
Samsung tv
@swoosh26
@swoosh26 16 күн бұрын
That's fast great job guy's
@kovalveli
@kovalveli 16 күн бұрын
uncapped frame rate with 120hz VRR is the way to go , I'm actually gonna give the game a go , I hated it in 30fps when it came out.
@GarrusVakarian-to2uh
@GarrusVakarian-to2uh 16 күн бұрын
make sure you are also on the perf mode
@kovalveli
@kovalveli 16 күн бұрын
@@GarrusVakarian-to2uh yep ,playing it right now ,and I really like what I'm seeing.
@Retro_Gamer_89
@Retro_Gamer_89 16 күн бұрын
I got a LG C1 OLED TV I'm good 😎
@kovalveli
@kovalveli 16 күн бұрын
@@Retro_Gamer_89 LG CX here, I'm good too 😎
@superaron83
@superaron83 14 күн бұрын
The option for uncapped doesn't appear, even though I'm running 120hz with VRR enabled
@Zenglar
@Zenglar 14 күн бұрын
Hey just a question.. is there gonna be a video for ghost of tsushima pc port ? tnx
@NevrNewd
@NevrNewd 16 күн бұрын
So on a C3, I’m going to go with 120hz, 60fps on performance and VRR. Thanks.
@ElbowJoe
@ElbowJoe 16 күн бұрын
This makes for an amazing ASMR power nap video. Highly recommended 👍
@ifstatementifstatement2704
@ifstatementifstatement2704 16 күн бұрын
With that background music too lol
@galegretti
@galegretti 16 күн бұрын
The big baby's voice is amazing.
@martiananomaly
@martiananomaly 16 күн бұрын
Left the game because of the 30 fps. I guess I'll play it again.
@daftpunkforeternity
@daftpunkforeternity 16 күн бұрын
I have an older tv but I’ve got no screen tearing I’m pumped to actually play the game now
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 16 күн бұрын
VRR is to smooth out the Fps dips.
@stevenwood433
@stevenwood433 15 күн бұрын
Makes me want to play it again now
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 16 күн бұрын
Hope Bethesda do further optimization in future patches to improve those areas where FPS tanks.
@alexatkin
@alexatkin 16 күн бұрын
Given its a CPU bottleneck, I wouldn't hold your breath.
@ulfricstormcloak7142
@ulfricstormcloak7142 16 күн бұрын
Especially in Akila city and New Atlantis
@axelhopfinger533
@axelhopfinger533 16 күн бұрын
Considering how Bethesda's level of care has been for this game since launch, you'll likely have a better chance wishing for world peace and a 10 inch shwang. That ancient engine is simply at its limits. Maybe modders can do some mesh and texture optimizations to lower resource usage like they have done for previous Bethesda games. If they even care enough for this thoroughly mediocre and disappointing game anymore at this point.
@ulfricstormcloak7142
@ulfricstormcloak7142 16 күн бұрын
@@axelhopfinger533 bruh, the fact that they released this update and the later Shattered Space is the proof that they still care
@SerBallister
@SerBallister 16 күн бұрын
@@alexatkin It slows down when you have nothing but a simple wall onscreen. So either the game isn't culling geometry and still drawing a whole city behind that wall, or something else is going on. No way can you choke a GPU if you only told it to draw a single wall. Unless their post-processing is really expensive some how.
@silvercoin4153
@silvercoin4153 16 күн бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for. Finally 60 FPS and a better map. Now it's really fun.
@xboxthebestbox1134
@xboxthebestbox1134 16 күн бұрын
😎
@LostInDistance
@LostInDistance 13 күн бұрын
Also the survival part of it is very welcoming. 👌🏼 Much more enjoyable on very hard.
@silvercoin4153
@silvercoin4153 12 күн бұрын
​@@LostInDistance I'm not a very good gamer. For me, in addition to the things described above, the ability to increase the carrying capacity was a blessing. I used to have to sometimes force myself to keep playing, but now I have to force myself to stop since the update. Very good job from Bethesda I say.
@eddiegarcia1560
@eddiegarcia1560 16 күн бұрын
Now I can start my game+
@oscard.5854
@oscard.5854 13 күн бұрын
I have an Asus monitor set at 1440p 120hz but can't see the uncapped option in the series x. Is this normal? Can someone help me out with this?
@LostInDistance
@LostInDistance 13 күн бұрын
Have you gone into the main settings on your Xbox? You might have to select the option there to open it up.
@ChisponGroxo
@ChisponGroxo 16 күн бұрын
We gonna have to wait for the "next-gen" patch for future PS6 and XBOX SX2(?)
@dtube441
@dtube441 16 күн бұрын
You just reaching for something to complain about 😂
@ChisponGroxo
@ChisponGroxo 16 күн бұрын
@@dtube441 well I mean the performance mode drops frames horribly and it's unacceptable.
@Greengoblin-qk6kq
@Greengoblin-qk6kq 13 күн бұрын
​@@ChisponGroxoif it's unacceptable buy better hardware
@ChisponGroxo
@ChisponGroxo 13 күн бұрын
@@Greengoblin-qk6kq yeah I'm gonna buy a RTX 4090 and plug it on my Xbox Series X.
@darthdragonborn1552
@darthdragonborn1552 16 күн бұрын
The almost no reaction to the fact that in some of the cities the game drops to 30-40 frames with perf. 60 on is pretty weird lol.
@alexx6274
@alexx6274 16 күн бұрын
When will xbox start to use fsr3? I remember that amd showcase and they said beggining of 2024, it was a big thing then cause it showed dramatic increase in fps, but this is fsr2 still? What happened with that
@smugmode
@smugmode 16 күн бұрын
I thought Sony was working on their own tech, now? Edit: Derp. You said Xbox lol mb
@TKRevRay971
@TKRevRay971 4 күн бұрын
This update was a game changer (pun). I was super excited when starfield launched but at the time was working 3 jobs so I decided to wait for some QoL updates to play it. The only things I've done was farm cash, build a ship, and now I can actually enjoy the game. I'm surprised they only spent 13 mins on this though.
@frankynakamoto2308
@frankynakamoto2308 16 күн бұрын
I think the only problem is the major cities in starfield, I think this is because the creation engine lacks mesh shaders, adding mesh shaders to remove objects that are not visible to the field of view inside those demanding areas would be a very good choice to add, so that we can see higher frame rates..
@extofer
@extofer 16 күн бұрын
Did they do an update to the game to make it fundamentally a better game? Because that’s what the game was lacking at launch, imo.
@robthomson1581
@robthomson1581 16 күн бұрын
They have done a bloody good job of this!! Absolutly loving the 40fps quality mode. Feels super smooth with VRR and visuals are excellent. All these options should please those who refused to play the game at 30fps! This is going to be amazing for when shattered space launches, im hyped!
@ryanpartlow2961
@ryanpartlow2961 16 күн бұрын
I can see just adding an uncapped mode to the Series S for VRR TVs. Just let players get what they can get.
@eduscxbox
@eduscxbox 16 күн бұрын
And as Todd Howard have said, they choosed 30fps for consistency and now people are seeing why, but will pretend he never said that and criticize the frame drops on Akila and New Atlantis that wasn't an issue before.
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
"Lets make the framerate entirely trash because two parts of the game only do 40fps" um, ok
@eduscxbox
@eduscxbox 16 күн бұрын
@@ethanwright752 Yeah, and people are critizing exactly those two parts. Just look at the hating comments.
@theanimerapper6351
@theanimerapper6351 16 күн бұрын
​@@ethanwright752 right? Like this comment is literally advocating for gamers to have less options. Who care what Todd Howard said? Give me 60fps option
@ltodom5884
@ltodom5884 16 күн бұрын
@@ethanwright752lmao were none of you here for xbox 360 i swear you’re all little kids, ack then everything was 30fps and we didn’t care
@captiosus9753
@captiosus9753 16 күн бұрын
⁠@@ltodom5884Ah yes, we should ignore all the technological progress from then until now and should accept performance from 15 years ago because that’s just how it was back then. 🙄
@meecrobhead
@meecrobhead 16 күн бұрын
So....now I can start the game again. 30fps was unplayable for me. Patience is worth gold.
@killrblue
@killrblue 16 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the GOT PC performance review
@RealName-ne4dk
@RealName-ne4dk 15 күн бұрын
Anyone else unable to disable Vsync on Xbox? The option is greyed out for me and I can’t figure out why.
@MillhioreX
@MillhioreX 13 күн бұрын
Mine too. Is are grey
@lalo-kt4te
@lalo-kt4te 12 күн бұрын
It is only grayed out when VRR is on.
@nighttimestalker
@nighttimestalker 16 күн бұрын
"generally well regarded" You sure about that one?
@jamescole3143
@jamescole3143 16 күн бұрын
Thank you DF!
@SpartanNegan
@SpartanNegan 16 күн бұрын
Is uncapped fps compatible with quality mode ??
@TheTomekEffect
@TheTomekEffect 16 күн бұрын
Yes
@GamingPaRa
@GamingPaRa 16 күн бұрын
Love them quick uploads . Appreciate it!
@cigarbearreviews
@cigarbearreviews 16 күн бұрын
About dam time. Gave up when it first came out due to severe motion sickness. FPS does matter. In 2024, 60-120 is a must,
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
I was told the experience was "smoother" at 30 than running at 60 and having a couple slow downs. lol
@cigarbearreviews
@cigarbearreviews 16 күн бұрын
@@ethanwright752 really? Well I guess some people’s eyes are different. Some swear by 30fps, but others when your used to 60fps, it’s hard to go back.
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
@@cigarbearreviews I was being sarcastic. People that swear by 30fps and the resulting 16ms of added input latency are broken
@angryjoe98
@angryjoe98 16 күн бұрын
If you want every console game to be at 60 we would need new consoles every 3 to 4 years. After that consoles will begin having 30fps locks as software out paces them.
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
@@angryjoe98 Typically developers learn the hardware much better toward the end of a cycle, but at the same time they want to keep graphic fidelity improving beyond what the hardware is designed for. It's always a choice to target or not target 60. I don't care about any excuses developers have anymore.
@barberza
@barberza 16 күн бұрын
It's certainly understandable why the game has the performance, visual and design limitations it does, (and maybe this isn't in DF's purview) but it's totally valid to question Bethesda's design sensibilities that continue to hobble their games. It's novel I guess that a cheese wheel stays where I drop it no matter where I go, but both Starfield and Fallout 76 show clear, significant problems that Bethesda admits are because of object persistance---problems that get in the way of basic interaction with the game and the game's core systems. Yet they rolled ahead with a loot-driven online service game with a severely restricted inventory and Stafield with the performance, visual, and other issues that they're still now working to iron out. Is that worth it? (& no disrespect to clearly talented and hardworking developers here, but from a critical/artistic perspective I don't think these design priorities are serving these works) "So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn't Stop To Think If They Should..."
@ethanwright752
@ethanwright752 16 күн бұрын
Ive been saying this all along. If the way you make your game proves impossible to deliver stable performance, maybe change the way you make the game.
@irecordwithaphone1856
@irecordwithaphone1856 10 күн бұрын
Don't disagree with most of what you said, but the whole live service game push at Bethesda was due to Zenimax. It was happening for other Bethesda published titles as well
@zb3485
@zb3485 16 күн бұрын
are loading screens 60 fps also?
@RicardoCarvalhoPT
@RicardoCarvalhoPT 10 күн бұрын
This was the only game I had on my backlog to play on PC due to 30fps 😁 can't wait to test it again in Series X! Way to go
@UberNoodle
@UberNoodle 16 күн бұрын
Digital Foundry: come for the information and analysis, stay for the extreme negativity in the comments?
@YouTubeCensors
@YouTubeCensors 16 күн бұрын
It's just angry PC plebs and Sony Ponys
@galacticmaui2
@galacticmaui2 14 күн бұрын
Options are always good. So happy there is a 40fps mode, seems like perfect sweet spot.
@Lukasamba
@Lukasamba 6 күн бұрын
So, what is resolution for 40 and 60 fps modes? Oliver did not tell this clearly.
@Shluggaroonie
@Shluggaroonie 16 күн бұрын
I'm on PC and my average FPS went from 45 to 48 lmao
@andreasschmidt9417
@andreasschmidt9417 16 күн бұрын
Use the PC optimized settings from Digital Foundry.
@DeadPiixxel
@DeadPiixxel 16 күн бұрын
your PC hardware must suck, my PC is $850 and can run this game at 85-100 fps at 1440p
@jasonsmith530
@jasonsmith530 16 күн бұрын
If you have a solid mid tier-PC then this patch may also benefit you
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 16 күн бұрын
Todd Howard​, is that you ? Because i can smell sweet little lie in this statement@@DeadPiixxel
@rockettbuggey5990
@rockettbuggey5990 16 күн бұрын
​@@dmytrosoboliev935 If the game supports dlss I could see something like that but still.
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