While at times a bit confusing, I've always liked the Crossfield design. For the same reasons i really like the NX-01 design. I can see the R&D folks trying out a triangular secondary hull as a carrier for small fighter or rescue craft and then realizing the test-bed abilities afforded to such a huge ship. And the refit is just gorgeous.
@CrazyNights10157 ай бұрын
Personally i think Lorca destroyed the Glenn to keep Discovery unique and the technology under his control. Man was nothing if not calculated. He wouldn't have destroyed the Glenn if there was even a chance he would benefit from it being salvaged.
@IzzyPR201012 күн бұрын
I always thought that the class name comes from the first ship made in that design, so if this is the Crossfield class, then the first ship of this design would be the Crossfield which doesn't seem to exist here.
@Ultra_YT_7 ай бұрын
The USS Discovery, the most advanced federation ship and at the same time the oldest, unique in the entire fleet and so different from others. It carries the name best suited to explore our universe and others, our timeline and alternate timelines, it has gone where no one has ever gone before and continues to blaze a trail into the future. What a glorious ship 💙🖤
@danielthorp87177 ай бұрын
Back in the 1980s, a friend I knew at school who had a Startrek Board Game, in the starship manual there was TOS and refit starships of Starfleet, Klingon, and other races, there was a TOS vessel design called the Larson Class, but in the Starfleet vessel refit was a vessel class called the Bakerfield Class, which I always refered nick named as a Bakerloo which has a Almost a very similar design concept to the Discovery. Espically on the triangle design.
@spikedpsycho23837 ай бұрын
I like the bridge windows...........
@barrybend71897 ай бұрын
Shame they forgot about the Crossfield style ships in Star Trek 4 in space dock.
@krisnephilim5 ай бұрын
They aren't properly Crossfield. Kitbashes aren't part of the original lineage. Likely those ships will be covered for SNW segments.
@KeysundKreisPlaylists_Colt7 ай бұрын
Does the Glen and Discovery really are normal Crossfield Classes or are they changed to work with the spore drive ? Whats with the version we saw in Strange New World ? Was build by Klingons but Enterprise recognised it as Crossfield Class
@kineuhansen86297 ай бұрын
ohh and dont forget the massive turbo lift room thing who was clearly way to big to fit inside the ship
@Daginni17 ай бұрын
Star Trek ships are bigger on the inside. Especially for their hangers with fleets of shuttles. Its classified tech of course, that's why Voyager is shown to only about 4.
@seantaggart73824 ай бұрын
Perhaps The fact is the turbolift is actually massive But the ship Is also pretty big too Its not galaxy class sized but its pretty big
@masterskywalker71417 ай бұрын
I love the Discovery, mostly the A, but the Sovereign and Constitution III (SNW Con equally) are my top Most favorites
@tonymarenno95687 ай бұрын
To me that ship looked suspiciously Klingon in design. Specifically it reminds me of the D7 cruiser. I think the TV series even addressed the issue🙂
@DrewLSsix7 ай бұрын
The ship pre dates the D7.
@stevenewman13937 ай бұрын
Also it's an upgraded design from the original design that was designed for Startrek Phase 2 that originally had more of the TOS style of nacelles!.
@mikewaterfield35997 ай бұрын
The McGuffin class, just when you thought Kurtzman was done with lore shattering BS after the Rheman Warbird “Scimitar” was built in secret by escaped slaves under the Romulans nose in their home system no less. Ya that double shielded, perfectly cloaked, battle carrier had more firepower than Star base 1
@A.Saans3047 ай бұрын
I remember when I first saw Discovery some years ago when they revealed and I was not a fan. As I watched the series the design grew on me and I really started to like the design of the ship itself. The 32nd century refit is a work of art as far as I'm concerned. I think it looks better then most of the other 32nd century ships, most like due to the fact that it has the old Starfleet silhouette. Plus it's not just white. New Starfleet has waaaay too much white for my liking.
@RememberTheChase7 ай бұрын
The discovery refit is my second favorite star ship in all of star trek. Maybe even number 1 honestly, I adore it.
@messengerguardiansparanorm86067 ай бұрын
5:00. If I remember correctly, it 3189 when the Discovery ended up in the 32nd century. It was 3188 is when Michael Burnham ended up there, crash-landing the Red Angel suit. She went for over a year before finding them. For Discovery, it had only been a few days. Your year of 3180 is too soon, as it is already 3191.
@tonyfabulous67757 ай бұрын
I want to see the saucer section separation maneuver..
@Luca-ls2xk7 ай бұрын
I think this is honestly my favourite st series
@Boxfortress7 ай бұрын
There's a handful of reasons from what Im aware of, be it someone's sole reason or a combination. The design language/aesthetics of ships, Klingons, and uniforms. Heavy focus on action. The hostility of characters twords one another along with what many perceived as political agenda pushing. Burnham feeling like a mery sue/fan fiction OC.
@seantaggart73824 ай бұрын
@@Boxfortress meh focus on action is alright! So long as its a blend It can focus on action provided it has exploration stories! And besides how modern audiences are getting more into action Yeah maybe not star trek fans but who knows?
@kineuhansen86297 ай бұрын
i am not a fan of the design and the spore drive that make no sense to me and i dont like the spinning when it use the spore drive very much would like to see it from the inside
@matthewlamont31127 ай бұрын
It just dawned on me that the ships silouhette is basically the IDIC symbol
@DrewDyrewood7 ай бұрын
Design that can do all and save the day better than your old, outdated relic! Give me a break. This design should have been nothing more than a rejected refit Connie design, and this whole show should have been better looked over by people who actually give a damn about bringing Star Trek fans together. Look, I'm a fan of Enterprise, so I understand enjoying something that a majority of others may dislike. More power to you, if you enjoy this stuff. That bring said, just as you have the opion it is good, or moderate at least, my opinion is that these writers and producers should have done a lot more homework, and a lot less self-inserting their crappy fanfiction storytelling.
@lukekao81367 ай бұрын
Did they "adquire Borg tech"? resistance is futile! lol
@ThomasMarxJKD7 ай бұрын
I really struggle to watch this series, I often fast forward it...
@jeffreyscott22527 ай бұрын
Adventures of the USS Melodrama
@alejandronopasanada53027 ай бұрын
I have to rewind as I’m usually finding other things better to do.
@brookatkins81117 ай бұрын
I just fall asleep
@Buddy746567 ай бұрын
I actually rather liked that original discovery design. I assumed that was the original crossfield design while the Discovery and Glenn were modified versions of it.
@chrisjenkins31497 ай бұрын
the saucer section looks to small for the size of the nacelles, to me it looks weird.
@dougkeyes44067 ай бұрын
Especially the creature, they utilized an oversized giant waterbear/tartigrade 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@JTeam456 ай бұрын
If the nacelles were 10% shorter, the saucer was filled in and didn't spin around, and the hull was brighter, I would be a big fan of the Crossfield Class. I know what they were going for, the design conveying speed while standing still, but it feels like they pushed the idea ever-so-slightly too far.
@dougkeyes44067 ай бұрын
The spore drive the stupidest idea ever. The basic design is okay but the concept of a sporedrive is just ridiculous
@scottbraun24577 ай бұрын
Yes. It's a weird kind of beautiful.
@D-Snyper-Grunt27 ай бұрын
Crossfield class = a warp capable pizza cutter
@colinleat83097 ай бұрын
I love the show, but not crazy about the look of the ship. Which is really weird because the look of the ship is vital to the show.
@roguephoenix7 ай бұрын
apparently not. they're abandoning the tech on discovery for the new thing being tested on the latest voyager.
@Ultra_YT_7 ай бұрын
Well, the spore drive still needs an operator which is impossible to obtain in mass scale due to the regulations and prohibitions for eugenic experiments in the federation and because of the destruction of Kwejian due to the DMA which resulted in the elimination of almost all empaths. That would explain why the Pathway Drive is a better solution although idk what it is but could be related to a kind of warp.
@bramvanzijp7 ай бұрын
@@Ultra_YT_ In the season 3 finale, it was also mentioned that the DNA stamets has would be quite hard to re-obtain, considering the tardigrade is extinct and the DNA fused with stamets DNA. So even if said experiments are still banned (which I doubt) it would not be that easy. As for the pathway drive, it seems to somehow just be an enhanced warp drive considering its mentioned that in the opening of season 5, they could have pulled a ship out of warp if they had a pathway drive, implying that the drive at the very least operates in a simular capacity to the standard warp drive, but with more speed/power/force/etc.
@Pedro8k7 ай бұрын
How is the nacelles connected to the ship it looks like they are separate with a gap
@RobKMusic7 ай бұрын
They are detached… because why not? It makes ZERO functional sense but it looks "kewl" and that's where we are in 2024.
@seantaggart73824 ай бұрын
@@RobKMusic it does actually make sense You see during Warp it reattached to use it However when not in warp? They are just giant nacelles that take up space Separating them allows better maneuverability
@limabravo60657 ай бұрын
When it comes to Star Trek Discovery i pretend im an ostrich with my head in the sand pretending it doesnt exist
@seantaggart73824 ай бұрын
You know that sand can't hide you forever *SLASH* eventually you'll have to breathe And then? You'll be forced to see it You cannot change the past but you can make the present your own Learn from discovery but make discovery follow YOUR rules Not the other way around
@limabravo60654 ай бұрын
@@seantaggart7382 there's always gouging out my eyeballs and sticking sharpened pencils into my ears
@joshuablackman48017 ай бұрын
Its crazy how she was named a science vessil but it hella durable than most star ships....still dont get why rocks are always flying in a fire fight
@Ezzell_7 ай бұрын
Why has there never been dedicated active counter measures to shoot down incoming torpedoes and other arsenal fired upon any ship in any ST series...friend or foe.
@joemahaney80237 ай бұрын
Ever seen Star Trek 2009? Uss Kelvin definitely has those defensive capabilities against the Narada and it's torpedo missiles but due to massive technological gaps was massively overwhelmed
@joemahaney80237 ай бұрын
Uss Kelvin vs romulan Narada from Kelvin timline star trek 2009 opening sequence
@Ezzell_7 ай бұрын
@@joemahaney8023 One instance in a 2000 plus year span (TOS to Discovery) with hundreds of species......poor writing.
@joemahaney80237 ай бұрын
@krekre001 exactly 💯 just natively improved cgi capabilities then boom 💥 literally
@Alucard96920107 ай бұрын
32 century star fleet design is one of the ugliest ship design i ever seen in all of SF.... truly ugly and repulsive... just like star trek discovery.
@shanenolan56257 ай бұрын
Cheers jack
@warmachine98467 ай бұрын
It looks like a giant space pizza cutter
@spartan.prime.78786 ай бұрын
An eye sore that made my retinas bleed
@deathgnomes7 ай бұрын
So no comment on how it looks like the Vulcan IDIC with nacelles?
@MrDYBYF86 ай бұрын
One of the best ships and one of the best shows and ive seen them all!!!
@brettnelson70487 ай бұрын
The fact that the fastest drive in Star Trek is powered by mushrooms (of all things) is bizarre. Cool, but bizarre.
@seantaggart73824 ай бұрын
Its Mycelium, not all mycelium is mushrooms But yeah its basically that way! However i still like the tech I do know downsides though Most dimensions dont have a network of mycelium for using it Thats why my DASHER drive makes its own network temporarily to increase speed
@300guy5 ай бұрын
Why are the pre Klingon war, pre SNW, TOS Ships so much sleeker and sexier than the Duotronic system based Ships that follow? Really doesn't make a lot of sense. The Shenzhou was a much more attractive and modern looking design than say Farragut with its clunky outy dish.
@johnwilliams58977 ай бұрын
Borg are no more in the 32nd century
@tarync65397 ай бұрын
Cant we just pretend the ship never existed i mean its bad enough we had to deal with a mushroom drive then they went one furrher and had detached nacelles! Neither things make sense!
@---us7qf7 ай бұрын
UGH! "well-loved" by whom?
@itzdcx7 ай бұрын
Teleporting super ship that has basically everything
@stevenewman13937 ай бұрын
🖖😎👍Discovery is truly not Canon in any way shape or form whatsoever it's in its own different Startrek universe like that of the J.J. Kelvin Universe!; And the ships are way too advanced in their outer design and interior design for the TOS Era they look more like they belong in the late 23rd century or the early 24th century!🤨.
@ADHD.Penguin7 ай бұрын
I want to enjoy discovery so much but it's so hard to ignore the weird facial expressions and tone inflictions. Idk what the cast is doing, if it's bad directing, or if they're trying to take some weird cues with how they're not your standard crew. It's well enough a show to fill time until they release SNW and LD seasons
@aurorawaxwing58667 ай бұрын
Discovery makes me sad because there was so much stuff that could have been interesting in it but it felt like I was watching a bad marvel show instead.
@The_Corn_Show7 ай бұрын
The USS POWEROFMATH .....
@joeinmish7 ай бұрын
I just finished season four of Star Trek discovery and was just an aw absolutely amazing. Can’t wait for season five and four to go on DVD. I have collected them all.❤❤❤❤❤❤
@chinglebingle82437 ай бұрын
I love seeing the shots of USS Discovery. People forget how hard they hit it out of the park each time with ship shots.
@icarus_falling7 ай бұрын
Im not a fan of discoverys later seasons. Pike getting involved was good and season 3 was ok but when it became 35 mins of therepy sessions with some sci fi it got boring fast. But the ships? I liked the ships of season 1 and 2. Brought that period of trek upto date for us model collectors. I dont buy detached sections though. Because how many times do ships lose power completely. You dont want your nacelle floating off into space do you.
@premier697 ай бұрын
ofc it is, girl boss is the captain space jesus.
@TheTaurus1047 ай бұрын
Apart from the spore drive and the Sora entity, the 32nd century Discovery isn't all that modern. And the crossfield class of the 23rd century, apart from the spurs, nothing special at the end of the day.
@gerardoosores74707 ай бұрын
Though this design could have been the Enterprise itself!
@chemicalhap7 ай бұрын
So the people who slagged TNG because it wasnt TOS, people who hated on DS9 because it wasnt on a ship, people who hated voyager because it wasnt tng, people who hated Enterprise because they phallically worshipped lore and feared somehow that the show would somehow invalidate some weird ownership they felt towards their perception of Star Trek....i thought all of them were idiots and would either die off or utterly forget how much they hated any new Star Trek. Same thing with BSG and Doctor Who Thats how i feel about the current batch of idiotic negative discourse. All stupid hipsters..who are irrelevant in the longer history of the franchise.
@walesbkb7 ай бұрын
dr who really has been on a downward spiral for a few years. hopefully star trek doesn't follow it.
@Sevarrius7 ай бұрын
People are still allowed to have an opinion, negative or otherwise. There's plenty of folks who were quite happy with all the previous ST shows, even the other current shows but they just don't like Discovery. Personally I fall in to that category. I enjoyed every series of 'old Trek', I like Strange New Worlds, I like Lower Decks, wasn't overly impressed by the first season of Picard but got further enjoyment from the second season and the third Season was pretty good. Discovery however I just cannot for the life me get along with. I cannot stand it, I hate the characters, I dislike the overarching story, I dislike just about everything to do with it and god knows I have tried to watch it, I audibly groan and cringe multiple times with every episode. It has gotten somewhat better with further seasons but there is just something about it, I don't even know what it is I just really really dislike it. Sorry.
@alejandronopasanada53027 ай бұрын
“I don’t like people who have different opinion than the one I was handed. Those people idiotic! No need to listen” - you
@brookatkins81117 ай бұрын
People have opinions - get over it
@motaz19757 ай бұрын
no, they just put lip stick on a pig.
@jjc45777 ай бұрын
not only did they have a Mary Sue as the main character in this series...they made the ship a Mary Sue as well.
@leebutler94707 ай бұрын
Design is 'unique'. Nope. It's rubbish. Proportions are wrong. Ugly. Pointless.
@subkommander9007Ай бұрын
The discovery is ugly..simply horrible looking
@donseagrave7 ай бұрын
love discovery seen early version way back in starlog magizine.
@jameswurr32517 ай бұрын
Why is everyone hatting on discovery for, I've lived this show from the start, embrace the new future people😅
@Megog7 ай бұрын
Pfft. Rejected TOS concept design.
@nullc0ntext7 ай бұрын
Terrible ship, awful series. No to both.
@Amathaeon7 ай бұрын
can't tell if serious or trolling
@nullc0ntext7 ай бұрын
@@Amathaeon 100% serious. Discovery is dead to me entirely.
@Ultra_YT_7 ай бұрын
That’s why u have available the Original Series available as well, so u can enjoy the 1900 prehistoric show that accommodates better with u. Remember what Gen said? Infinite diversity in infinite combinations, it’s okay if u don’t like it ;)
@qdllc7 ай бұрын
Discovery is an abomination to everything Trek…and that’s before they did the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory turbo lift scene.
@nullc0ntext7 ай бұрын
@@qdllc I gave up on it after they "reimagined" the Klingons just plain incorrectly. This series ranks below the Kelvin Timeline for pure garbage to me.
@fen45547 ай бұрын
It's kinda hilarious that to get a shot of it without it spinning, rolling, exploding, or otherwise shaking the camera, you needed to use game or user footage. Also representative of everything wrong with that show.
@hoschiestahl64767 ай бұрын
Star Trek ended with Voayager, everything after was a nightmare
@Teslabotjames7 ай бұрын
Not cannon,
@rogerj4127 ай бұрын
I don't get the hate the Discovery gets from fans.
@olliek28377 ай бұрын
And fans have no clue what you see in it 🤦🤷🏻♂️🙈
@alejandronopasanada53027 ай бұрын
The fans have many good points but people in general are worse.
@olliek28377 ай бұрын
@@alejandronopasanada5302 thankfully the current skidmark is coming to an end. It’s gonna take a while to get the stain out though 🖖
@Toobeegort7 ай бұрын
It is not Star Trek, except for the shape of some ships, there is no hope for the future, no fun in the people, it's all dark and gloom, and they changed everything in the time line for no reason.
@olliek28377 ай бұрын
@@Toobeegort well said. Shields up! Discovery fans set to deny! 🖖