Stargate SG-1 - Season 7 - Homecoming - Goa'uld hubris

[@Felix0587]

Anubis has the best first prime. He is just so sinister and efficient when carrying out his orders. Anubis really scored with him. He's like the Anti-Teal'c.

[@gn0015]

He's a total follower of the Goa'uld. He killed his former master when he found out he was a Tok'ra spy and then he joined Anubis. It's really like Sir Alex Ferguson signing Robin van Persie and got the most out of him.

[@lcstark]

Yeah, he's so sinister he sometimes ends his sentences with prepositions.

[@DomWeasel]

I liked their relationship. Her'ak offers his thoughts to Anubis and Anubis listens. Particularly this exchange in Homecoming; they're pretty in sync. Her'ak; I do not believe what you are searching for is here. ANUBIS; I agree. Her'ak; Shall I target their base, my Lord? ANUBIS; No. Recall the ground troops. Her'ak (Smirks with understanding); Yes, my Lord. He's also the only underling of Anubis' that fails him that he doesn't have executed. (Though his ship being destroyed may have distracted him from Her'ak's failure to acquire the crystal with Naquadria research) Admittedly, this was before Anubis' defeat at Earth sent him off the deep end.

[@danieljackson1272]

And before he was the first prime of Anubis, he was the first prime of Khonsu.

[@summerfield738]

​@@danieljackson1272 recently I was rewatching the series and I realised that Her'ak was actually successfully in capturing Khonsu. Since we know Tok'ra have a means of making it so they cannot be revived by a sarcophagus, Her'ak taking Khonsu off guard and killing him stopped this and would allow Anubis to revive him and get the information he needed. The episode that comes after The Other Guys is Alliegence, where Malek's Tok'ra base is destroyed forcing the Tok'ra to take refuge at the Alpha Site.

[@Deltarious]

Having a temper like Anubis is actually a large part of the reason why very highly authoritarian dictatorships really struggle to be efficient- nobody wants to promise too much or be too successful for risk of failure and everyone around the leader has a very large incentive to 'manage' the leader and their expectations, basically just to save their own necks, this 'management' ends up happening even if the people around the leader don't communicate about it, it's a natural effect. Of course Anubis has magic ancient-esque powers so he's probably able to sidestep a lot of the normal issues that come with being a tyrannical despot

[@IsleOfFeldspar]

As soon as he said ‘I will not accept failure’ I would have hopped in the frisbee escape ship and put a few light years between myself and the ‘fat man in the diner’.

[@humorpalanta]

His assistant Goa'uld gets a message: Congratulations, you have been promoted to be chief engineer. Now solve the instability issue! Him be like: Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiet

[@sargon6000]

Every time Naquadria went unstable, it caused a massive nuclear explosion. The fact that Anubis' ship was able to tank that internal nuclear blast and be almost unaffected shows just how tough it really was. Hell, just a few hours earlier it survived the superweapon core exploding without much internal damage. No wonder O'Neill fired the biggest drone salvo in history at the second mothership, he had to make sure the ship would be destroyed completely.

[@DomWeasel]

Jack was shooting at nearly 40 other Goa'uld ships too.

[@sargon6000]

@@DomWeasel Yeah, but Anubis' ship was hit first and then kept getting pounded, while the other Ha'tak were obliterated in just a few seconds.

[@DomWeasel]

@@sargon6000 It was much, much bigger. But yeah, it could take a beating.

[@danieljackson1272]

I always wondered if he had any actual control over how many of the drones fired or if he just activated them, then sat back and enjoy the ride.

[@sargon6000]

@@danieljackson1272 Given that O'Neill's brain was even move developed than the first time, I'd say he must have. It's probably what drained him, and why he had to go into stasis.

[@kenp7814]

James T. Kirk to Anubis - "Why does God need a Starship"?

[@SirCraigius]

Anubis to Kirk: 2:07

[@notsureyou]

They claim that they are gods, Yet they don't know how to do something as easy as overcoming the instability of Naquadria...... am...a....teurs......!!!!!

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Well another snake made the material...and nearly blew the entire planet up cause couldn't handle his own creation...of course this snake is going to fail...^^

[@sadev101]

.....teurs....

[@derianvandalsen]

Anubis knows exactly how, but that's Ascended knowledge he is not allowed to use, which is why he needs Quinn. That must be so frustrating.

[@TheMAZZTer]

I actually really like this bit because it breaks the trope of the bad guys being able to wield the big space weapon (or power source in this case) that our heroes can't get working for some plot related reason. The heroes have to remain underdogs, after all. This subverts that as the big bad hits exactly the same roadblock and, like the heroes, is unable to overcome it.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Though never named in the episode, I like to think this scientist Goa'uld was Thoth, the Egyptian deity of wisdom and/or magic.

[@Ragitsu]

Nope. Thoth was in a later Season 7 episode: "Evolution".

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@Ragitsu pity we never saw Nut, or saw more of Bastet whose Bast Guard were all female Jaffa, or Morrigan. There were a lot of system lords who had unique masked Jaffa we never got to see on screen

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

Huh. Fancy that.

[@TheFloorface]

@@toomanyaccounts probably more due to cost constraints than the writers not wanting to explore ideas. its understandable but still a shame.

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@TheFloorface well that cgi on the Horus guards isn't cheap and even the helmets were not cheap hence why most jaffa eventually didn't have them

[@Daktangle]

If "gods cannot die", how does a first prime reconcile that with "kill him"? Do they see Anubis as the one and only god?

[@Calmputer]

The now-dead guy was merely a lesser god. or, as you say, the Jaffa only believe in "their" god.

[@thomasdalton1508]

The Jaffa have always displayed a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the divinity of the Go'uld. I think they know perfectly well that they aren't gods but choose to go along with it rather than be executed as a sho'vah.

[@DomWeasel]

@@thomasdalton1508 'always displayed a lot of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the divinity' You can apply that to our real life religions. The contradictions in the Bible for example (Proverbs 4:7 vs Ecclesiastes 1:18) or modern Christians and Muslims saying their religion is about peace when both 'Spread the word' through military conquest.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@DomWeasel Very true, although I think having your "gods" living and dying right next to you is a little different to picking and choosing which bits of a supposedly sacred book you are going to acknowledge.

[@IsleOfFeldspar]

There are no biblical contradictions.