STARGAZING - ONI - Spaced Out: Ep. #18 (Oxygen Not Included)

[@naefaren3515]

I believe you should use the platic for whatever you want! By this point, you've limited yourself for enough cycles, so it might be time to move on. Having more mobility will jsut allow work to be done much more efficiently.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thanks for the vote!

[@str3lok124]

I agree with Naefaren, you should use the plastic for all projects

[@neilangelomolleda7283]

@@Nathans-Sandbox Same here. I used your play through as a guide when I got back to ONI. Please do all of these ahahahha. I was expecting thid episode to be the radbolt research, it was very hard to get to work

[@salemprompthous3820]

Considering this is a let's play on a small dlc planetoid, Dreckos are usually considered a "fair" source of long-term plastic and fiber source. So I'd definately agree: 330cycles in, and self-imposed restrictions on items from the printer, I'd also argue it's time to get more ranches up, not just Glossy, but also regular Dreckos aswell as stone hatch ranches (which would give more than enough coal for two planetoids' power needs, and a lot of extra food). When it comes to the eggs, I'd suggest dropping them in a tub of liquid, that way, once they hatch, the critter will automagically drown and evolve to meat. Just make sure dupes can reach the eggs in order to keep the population control incubators topped up (my first few attempts at this (long before the dlc, though), I accidentally exterminated all hatches, shine bugs and Dreckos on the map, as I forgot about dupes needed to reach the eggs 🤣)

[@salemprompthous3820]

@@neilangelomolleda7283 for early-game setup of radbolts, keep it simple. Plant a wheezewort, and take rads directly off it. Or, a solution requiring less dupe interaction as the wheeze needs to be fertilized, use shine bugs. Same result, though you'll need more bugs for the same ammount of rads/cycle. The bigger contraptions on rads can wait till you have rad-suits and sustainable nuclear reactors ready. Ranching the shine bugs can also be a power positive process, as you can lock them in a single tile surrounded by solar panels anywhere on the planetoid. Enough bugs will emit enough lux for the panels to produce power 24/7. Hope this helps your early rads 😁

[@T-minus-infinite]

I remember when your son was interrupting your recordings as a baby and he is already skiing with you

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

He's getting close to 5 now, it's insane.

[@rewolfmi]

Your channel deserves way more attention! This series has me mind blown, you're so knowledgeable. I feel like this is like rim world which is one of my favorite games but the amount of work and intriquecy that goes into this... I'd say this game tops rim world. You're very talented, feel like I'm learning a lot.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I'm very glad you're enjoying the videos, thanks;)

[@flintube2622]

Have an awesome holiday with your son! Enjoy the time together!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thank you, we totally did:)

[@TopaT0pa]

4:30 "skiing with my sun" - I still remember, when the recordings had to be paused because of baby Nathan Jr. making a fuss. Happy to see you get along nicely =)

[@trenthexum4735]

Yay! Thanks for the daily ONI even while on vacation! You're the man!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@austini_martini_]

I love the oni videos the always help me with my own play throughs. Keep up the good work

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thanks, will do!

[@kyleswiss614]

I made it this far so I think it's time to give you a huge thank you!! I have always wanted to play this game, years even, but I always knew it would be too overwhelming for me even after watching many tutorials. I finally bit the bullet and purchased the game but I decided to play in a unique way to get some practice under my belt. I am now on Cycle 315 with a base that is an exact replica of yours! Down to the tile, I have copied you step by step and have had so much fun experiencing all of the game's mechanics through you! So thank you for this series so much. I would love to show you my file sometime so you can see how diligent I have been in replicating your save!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Hey that's awesome that you ended up trying the game;) You can always hop on my discord and send me the link to your file there if you want to.

[@macrofrost7331]

I dont know why but I really enjoy all your oni playthrough. keep making it nathan :D

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Will do my best!

[@joehelland1635]

I always make my central elevator shaft a park when making it. The buff for visiting a park is so great.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@7week3day37]

hey nathan i just wanna say that your vids really helped me a lot.i work 12 hours a day and hearing you teaching about raising dreckos and coolinng natural gas vent is really eh relaxing,i hope by the time i have kids and get old you'd still making series about oni thanks man

[@mlindert]

Loving this new series like your previous ones ! Great customer suport from you making episodes in advance while enjoying a well deserved holiday ;-) Please use plastic for transport tubes instead of this "more important use for wallpaper" !

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@MalcolmAkner]

With the critters, I've found that the easiest way is to have an auto sweeper in the ranch that first sweeps up everything. It has two, three or four drop ofs; one to the kitchen (meet from dead critters), one to the infinite storage (egg shells and whatever else may end up there), one to the coal generators (coal obv), and one to a separate kill chamber (all eggs). The eggs are all dropped in 1 tile of water surrounded by air flow tiles cause it looks nice. Without anything extra, critters die and an auto sweeper can pick up the meet and egg shells. But the same auto sweepers can reach 2 incubators, and it's just 240W each. This ensures that those incubators are always filled, while the rest of the eggs are left to.. evolve.. With this method, critters born in incubators will always be taken to the ranches and fill them up, excess eggs will always be drowned off and you have a very stable and completely automated supply for your meat and coal generators. I'm 600 cycles in, steady on coal with 2500+ tonnes of ignius rock left for my Stone hatches. Try it out and good luck 🤞

[@MalcolmAkner]

You can of course also have conveyor filters, but that's at least heavy into the yellow tech. But that's a neater solution for sure!

[@salemprompthous3820]

I've been doing pretty much the same, since the Automation update (a good while back). Though, I keep the incubators unpowered. If powered, it cuts into the ranchers' duties aswell as produce unnecessary heat (atleast if my kitchen is inside the base. If outside, I don't care about heat generation, ofc). And for the extraction of materials: I usually habe one or two dupes dedicated to running around, carrying stuff, so separating isn't that much of a concern. One line for eggs, one for materials and one for food. Eggs into a tub of liquids, Food always goes directly to a deep-freeze storage, and a central location for the rest. Edit: and, with volcanoes, you'll have an endless supply of igneous rock for the stone hatches

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@richardcagle5475]

use that plastic! i know its too late, just commenting for engagement. thx for the work. im a few cycles from learning if my infinite storage solution to the geysers was a huge mistake or not. bit worried about the thermal mass of the pools ability to properly cool. also a bit worried ill end up having to heat the portion ill be using in base after the contraption. time will tell, got no time to do math :)

[@creeperthekingcreeper8234]

Aw. I hope you're having a superb time up there, In the mountains.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thanks, we had;)

[@sardar106]

Yep wallpaper is always important 😌 15:37

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@coreyhill7775]

as a new fan, I am happy to hear about a SON its amazing!!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@str3lok124]

Hi Nathan! Great Episode as usual. One thing that I noticed, as soon as you did the thing with the egg cracker, your cook started to crack the egg in the stable. You can see it at around the 6 minute mark. I think he ignored the fact that the incubators have a higher priority, because his cookingtask is always higher in priority then the deliverytask. But maybe I'm wrong, I just wanted to tell you this. Again , I love this series and thank you for the hard work for this content! Enjoy your vacation!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I'll keep an eye on it. Technically both are delivery tasks.

[@thomashanson8561]

New to the series thank you so much for this play through you are awesome

[@MF_Jab]

its never enough, always leave wanting the next video immediately

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@cintiadg]

Nice video, as always :) In line with the other comments, I also think you should use the plastic for whatever you want to build :D

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@Eldude101]

I know exactly how you feel about the drecko ranch, just can't leave a build alone. For the excess dreckos you could make a shearing room with only hydrogen to mass produce plastic, but I know you said you wanted to minimize critters for lag reasons...

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

👍We'll sheer them once each.

[@MrBradleyearl]

Critter evo chamber works by having a critter sensor in ur ranch set to 7, i think. then u have sweeper and conveyor rail that is only turned on when the extra egg is deposited in the ranch zone. then it ships it out into the critter evo chamber. where the egg is dropped... and over a few cycles evolves into its final form of bbq. and then an auto sweeper to pull out the meat and place into a freezer in co2. its the best way to do food in the game and stone hatches, plastic dreckos, shovevoles, slicksters, and pacu are the best at doing this. to be fair. pachu probably is the fastest and best moving forward with spaced out due to the rad buff it makes. surf and turf probably will be the best option for dupe food if one does anything with nuclear power... and frankly nuclear power probably will be the end game best power. while magma biome is good for starting power, nuclear eclipses it. and power via petroleum is great for the oil biome where slicksters are, but oil is i feel is still beneath nuclear imo. francis jon with the plant mutation on sleet wheat that gives u rotpiles... i mean its too good.

[@salemprompthous3820]

On the food, shove voles are the "best" in terms of pure kcal, as they give 10kg meat each. Ranch one, and every egg it lays gives a tamed vole, which will lay a new tamed egg before it dies of starvation. Self sustaining cycle. But, on the note of radiation, combining shove voles with pacu to make surf&turf is the better play cause of the rad-resistance "Seafood" buff. On the note of ranch size: the automated extraction of eggs gives room to have 8 critters per 96tile ranch, which is sufficient to have on the drop-off settings (no need for extra sensors or automation) and have the eggs go directly to a critter-locked liquid tank. If dupes can reach the eggs, they can fill any incubators that needs to be filled. Just make sure that the egg goes directly out of the room (inside a tile or door) on the rails. If this isn't possible, having 8 critters, and an egg travelling inside the room, will "trick" the critters into thinking the egg is still in the room, which will give the "cramped" debuff, which then would be better off just being 7. This is, however, not the case for pacu ranching, where one pacu requires 8 *liquid* tiles per critter. (The ranching note is info I've gotten off FJ's tutorials, and I've modified his designs to be better fitting for my base layouts, though the notes on food is mostly my own testing)

[@salemprompthous3820]

And yes, for power production, nuclear is top tier. Petrolium is better used for rocketry or plastics, and use the excess petrolium to make oxygen. Late-game, I usually reserve the excess petrolium for LOX production.

[@MalcolmAkner]

Build whatever you want with the plastic, it's not a lot. The game is designed so that transit tubes are expensive and require an oil biom to feed it. Would love to see a petroleum boiler!

[@salemprompthous3820]

If you, like Nathan, manage to start off a glossy ranch early on, oil biome is completely excessive in terms of plastic. Give it enough cycles, which he's stated this let's play will definately have, and you'll end up with enough glossy plastics to tile up the entire cluster. More ranches would only reduce the time required, same with access to oil. Also, when the transit network is built, there's (usually) no need to add more plastics to it. The occational super-heated debris might melt some, but even that is completely avoidable.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I already now seem to have more than enough plastic. The lime is a bigger problem.

[@SomeGuy-ty7kr]

I love seeing how you optimize :)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I try:)

[@awcm1507]

nathan nailed the edit

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@callum.dokkodo]

Use the plastic :) but add some sort of challenge to force yourself to get rocketry going, even if it's just a basic/temporary thing. Maybe say every 50 cycles or whatever you have to have built a launch pad on another planetoid.

[@salemprompthous3820]

Every 50 cycles a bit much, considering it's planned to go for 1000s of cycles, as Nathan said in the very first episode. Though, I do agree that some timetable should be implemented. E.g "By the end of cycle 600:planetoid 2 base is self-sufficient and pretty", or something

[@callum.dokkodo]

@@salemprompthous3820 reason I say 50 is because it's a round number, and it's just enough time to go to a planetoid and get some basic stuff up and running. I'd like to see this playthrough push Nathan out of his comfort zone a little. A little more chaotic. But not gonna die on that number a plucked out of thin air

[@salemprompthous3820]

@@callum.dokkodo ah, my apologies, I saw it as a determined number, not as an example. Fully agree, though, would be nice to see Nathan outside his comfort zone, even if it's just for a few episodes

[@1711Spider]

Go crazy with the plastic. You are basically converting ur recourses and dupes time into plastic with the critters so, fair trade in my opinion.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@treneeaewnaur8558]

thank you

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

:)

[@mqx3888]

Transite tubes I dont even know why it was not an option in the first place . I don'T mind. It a game which has it machanics and functions. go for it

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@rusus767]

In the swiss mountains? Have fun!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

We had, thanks!;)

[@nico-ob6wj]

I hope the ski was good!

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

It was great, thanks:)

[@jacoprinsloo5506]

In terms of the plastic. If you have put in the effort to get enough plastic from the drekko for tubes then you have all the right to make them. Nobody can complain about you making transit tubes now already as long as you still take advantage of the dlc features and explore other planetoids

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

That sounds reasonable!

[@eastside1411]

Finallly

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@backpflaume51]

Hey guys maybe someone can tell me what is this awesome skill camile has deconstruct bunch of tiles at once?

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

It's a mod called chained deconstruction. Got tired of babysitting them deconstructing ladders.

[@mqx3888]

I think its time for unlimited co2 storage. Kompress it into little tiles. the unlimited compression technique. I wouldn't considering it cheating. Its how the game works. I love it as it is how the game works. Game it. :)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I made some bad experiences im the past regarding fps with infinite storages.

[@Compactor_08]

I would use the plastic because your not guaranteed oil on other planets or it will be even longer to get to the next planet that may contain oil and then have to get it back to the main planet

[@salemprompthous3820]

Very true. There's always a 100% guarantee to find oil, but the location isn't always one of the closest planetoids, atleast not with the new dlc sized clusters. Classic clusters is a different matter

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@-Cassiopeya-]

Yes have a wonderfull holiday with your Son. :)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

We had a great time, thanks!;)

[@suszi1982]

You should start with the transit tubes now :)

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@pikolino210]

18:30 how did Camille destroy all the tiles at once?

[@salemprompthous3820]

It's a mod.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Yes, Chained Deconstruction.

[@zairev3438]

Transit tubes would be fine, if it was in key locations like one top, one base, one bottom of the map. I dont like transit tubes in nearly every single room how you always used to put them :p

[@salemprompthous3820]

Central stations is the most effective use of transit tubes, yeah 😁

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

When the final base stands, each module will get an acess, but cerain modules will be biggger than others.

[@Vell1981]

How is this Oxygen generation setup not running out of Power for you it does for me somehow dunno why i tweaked the sensors but still the 112g/ of Hydrogen the Electrolyzer produces get used up so fast it runs out of power for me all the time.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

You have to fill up the battery once before running it.

[@Vell1981]

@@Nathans-Sandbox I did but it still runs out and i reduced it to a more compact Version with one Pump each and it is fine now somehow and put another one next to it in my Game , i wonder with all the complex builds you do how it comes you don't use the Blueprint Mod

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

For me it only ran out once when I didn't pump in any water. There must be something different in your setup, I really wonder...

[@Vell1981]

@@Nathans-Sandbox Yeah i was stupid and did not cut some pipes running to the Tanks so it ran all the time till it was out of power, because most of the hydrogen got in the tanks instead of the generator, but i found that error after i build two small ones and i don't care to build it back to test it.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@danielthomas5473]

How did you have enough coal to still be going at this point?

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

The starting asteroid gives you plenty and at some point you wanna switch to hatches.

[@hhss4252]

oil is on second planetoid. you can teleport there. I think wallpapers are not good for fps.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

I have dissabled them.

[@Mr_Papo]

Less goo 8k more for 100k subs

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

So close!:)

[@mathieugariepy2948]

Skiing in Switzerland . . .

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Heck yeah!

[@Zay_Jay]

Is there not meteors anymore? It has been ages since i last time played

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

The meteord are restricted to some planetoids in the spaced out dlc.

[@Zay_Jay]

@@Nathans-Sandbox Fantastic. Need to get back in the game. Just 54 episodes left :D

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@Tom-tv3zh]

nathan what do plastic tiles do?

[@Pechbird]

they block radiation

[@salemprompthous3820]

Plastic tiles block more radiation than regular tiles, but their main function is to increase runspeed, same as plastic ladders. For the best radiation blocking tiles, use metal tiles built with lead (info on this is easily seen in-game). Double tiling with tvis is more than 100% rad-blocking, while every other material requires atleast 3 tiles to be 100% effective.

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@amaruzockt]

Why not? Use the plastic. It's not cheated, it's a method how you can produce it

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@xanderkrahl7474]

Wait till oil

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Thanks for the vote!

[@ledgeexe1935]

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@sardar106]

Yooo

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

Hey

[@sardar106]

@@Nathans-Sandbox hello!

[@codetyper]

Yay first

[@Nathans-Sandbox]

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[@mathisrothof3638]

Second

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