Stark Varg, enduro range test pt.2: Classic enduro

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Жыл бұрын

Second enduro range test for the Stark Varg. Long dirt and gravel track, damp/slippery conditions. Quite alot of rocks and roots, you can really tell that the suspension is built for MX, bounced all over the place. Will rebuild the suspension for enduro later.
Factory map 4: 56hp / 80 % regen during the whole run.
Lap length: 5.8 km (3.6 miles)
Total laps: 6
Total length: 34,8 km (21.6 miles)
Max elevation: 125 m
Min elevation: 99 m
Elevation gain, per lap: 81 m
Total elevation gain, 6 laps: 486 m
Battery percentage start: 95%
Battery percentage end: 31%
Total battery usage: 64%
Total Time: 98 minutes
Average lap time: 16:18 minutes
Average speed: 31,3 km/h (13.2 mph)
Max speed: 42.6 km/h (26.5 mph)
Source: Strava
Presumed range at 100% to 0% usage: 54 km (33.6 miles)
Presumed riding time at 100% to 0% usage: 152 minutes
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@titaniumjoeszigeti
@titaniumjoeszigeti Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the range at 30-40hp setting on hard enduro trail. I did subscribe. Thank you for finally covering some stuff for the enduro crowd 😊
@boatelectricaldiy
@boatelectricaldiy Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend. Finding this info has been like pulling teeth. Subbed.
@troydurbin2490
@troydurbin2490 Жыл бұрын
Place looks fast a flowie 😊 love it. Thanks again for your time and energy you put into all this.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Really appreciate it ⚡️
@stevedars1234
@stevedars1234 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the high detail! This info was long overdue from Stark. You’re the man!
@ThatWhiteGuy
@ThatWhiteGuy Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this. I was seriously looking at one for the low maintenance and seeing them claim 6 hours of trail riding, but extrapolating this out to ~3 hours or ~33 miles of range to use the full battery looks like I need to crush my dreams and look at a KTM 300 or something.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I have to do some more testing but I think that 3 hours are possible on some tracks. Keeps in mind that these tests we make are strictly when the is bike moving. Usually when im out 4-5 hours about 3 of them consists of actually riding the bike.
@ThatWhiteGuy
@ThatWhiteGuy Жыл бұрын
@@enforcer-enduro really appreciate the tests and I'll follow closely. Last couple trips I had was ~20-30 ish miles per day so it'd be close. It looks awesome to be quieter and hopefully less vibration in the bars, not having an engine to stall on slow stuff seems like it'd help a lot too
@swedish_sadhguru3854
@swedish_sadhguru3854 11 ай бұрын
KTM 300 doesnt require much maintenance compared to an older 2 stroke. I would also like a Stark Varg but range is poor and price is high to buy it, not sure if its a good investment. At least if it was road legal I could take it to work some days.
@ThatWhiteGuy
@ThatWhiteGuy 11 ай бұрын
@@swedish_sadhguru3854 yeah I ended up with a gasgas ex300 TPI. Until there's an Enduro varg with longer range and/or swappable batteries I'll never buy another bike.
@swedish_sadhguru3854
@swedish_sadhguru3854 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, we are probably 5-10 years away from a bike with longer range.@@ThatWhiteGuy
@smc2811
@smc2811 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting, this is by far the most usefull information I've found for enduro riders tha are considering owning one of this toys. Would love to hear your opinion about the bike's performance in terms of riding when compared to a normal bike. Great job!
@mitikumitiku4442
@mitikumitiku4442 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm looking forward to get mine.
@21AirDrop
@21AirDrop Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video!
@brianbelton3605
@brianbelton3605 7 ай бұрын
The E-bikes are the future. I rode the lightning, faster than Godzillas dental tool. Amazing
@anythingwithamotorinit
@anythingwithamotorinit Жыл бұрын
Bra film! På världens bästa bana dessutom! 👍
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Ja Skene är riktigt fin!
@pmullen5319
@pmullen5319 10 ай бұрын
This is super useful information. Thank you! My (supposed) delivery date just got pushed back again, to mid-December, which, if true, I'm hoping to take the SV to a hare scramble the first weekend of January. According to your info, it might work. I was considering doing a "hot" map for the first lap, until positions get settled, the drop down to 35-40 HP, which is about where a 300 two stroke (what I normally ride) sits, but the SV should have *way* more torque so maybe I could even drop it down a bit more. My normal riding is hard enduro, super tight and technical single track so I'm thinking that I could get away with my normal map even being down to 20-30 HP since I'll still have all that torque, with the handlebar switch to flip on when I get to hill climbs, straight sections, etc. That such things can be done at all is super exiting, so I'll have to see how it works out.
@emilskretting4631
@emilskretting4631 Жыл бұрын
Bra video, mycket intressant. Ser bättre ut än väntat med räckvidd tycker jag. Längtar tills det är min tur 🙌
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Ja den ligger faktiskt över min förväntan, jag är slut långt innan hojen är det.
@Z0ttMonte
@Z0ttMonte Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos. Finally someone using the bike, like I would (try). I never thought it could last for 6h. But 4-5h. More like 2-3 is disappointing for the price. But I have to say when I could ride, where u do, I wouldn’t use an electric bike. There is no one around. Here in Germany the people are very angry and don’t like other to have fun
@TimothyApe
@TimothyApe 11 ай бұрын
This bike would be perfect for Germany I guess because Same in France. Riding around with the Surron suddenly makes people greet instead of argue. I am doing the same riding as before on my gas bike. People are easy to manipulate 😂
@TimothyApe
@TimothyApe 11 ай бұрын
Also old people are used to ebike because they ride them themselves. So riding a bike with 50 times the power makes no difference 😅
@abpob6052
@abpob6052 Жыл бұрын
I am an engineer by trade and would love to play and test the SV for hare scrambles and enduro. Need a softer suspended version with a focus on getting 3 full hours on a charge at moderate race speed.
@kyleosbun
@kyleosbun Жыл бұрын
Scratch off all day trail trips or multiple day camping trips. Hell. Scratch off half day trail rides
@TelmoMonteiro
@TelmoMonteiro 8 ай бұрын
In case anybody from Stark Varg company sees this - I do 120km riding days. If you can triple the battery's energy density, that would unlock this buy from me. Even if I can charge at lunch (not guaranteed at all), I would need a (heavy?) charger on my backpack adding more weight
@henkepenke29
@henkepenke29 Жыл бұрын
Backabanan! Snyggt 💪 Där har man gjort några varv… 😁
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Fantastisk bana!
@SuperGreyfox99
@SuperGreyfox99 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information and all the testing you have done. Has the unit had any problems of any kind. Does it feel heavy to ride. Also what hp setting are you typically at for this enduro and single track videos. Again thank you for making this video.
@BDRPRODAKSHN
@BDRPRODAKSHN 9 ай бұрын
Эндуро!? Да это поездка с рюкзаком на рыбалку !!!
@Fazer1789
@Fazer1789 9 ай бұрын
As I see , you need 2x battery’s capacity for full range of classic engine as 6-7 liters of gasoline. This moment is not so far. CATL announced new battery with 500 vatt*hour / kg capacity. This will be end of gasoline engine day.
@NirHason
@NirHason Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us! really cool to watch a Varg in the woods! BTW, are you getting the ride info you're showing us at the beginning from the Varg's phone? What is your power map setting during this ride? 40hp?
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Thanks! All data is from Strava, the Stark app have limited data at the moment. Factory map 4: 56hp / 80 % regen during the whole run.
@NirHason
@NirHason Жыл бұрын
@@enforcer-enduro tnx for the info!
@prospectorsoils1240
@prospectorsoils1240 Жыл бұрын
Totally out for western desert/mtn type riding. A really short ride for me is 20 miles with a top speeds around 80mph and a average close to 40. A long ride is 200 miles and 10-12hrs. I have had one on preorder for 2 years. Who wants to take my place?. Supposed to deliver in Sept. I think I'll build a BRC500.
@swedish_sadhguru3854
@swedish_sadhguru3854 11 ай бұрын
Why not get a KTM 300?
@prospectorsoils1240
@prospectorsoils1240 11 ай бұрын
Definitely a good a choice. I think I’m going to build a BRC 500. I’ve always owned a CR500 and that is kind of the next level. Currently ride a Berg 570.
@evltwin984
@evltwin984 Жыл бұрын
Are "you" personally happy with it so far? Any pros/cons, other than range between your ice bike & the⚡️tark? ie -wish it did this or didnt do this etc. Cheers from new zealand
@Superdisco199
@Superdisco199 9 ай бұрын
I would have thought the reason you're getting bounced around so much is the smaller tyres ? As soon as you put big enough tyres to aborb stuff you'll suck major power out of it. We do about 2000m of elevation gain in a loop. Wonder how that would affect it too.
@GroovyVideo2
@GroovyVideo2 Жыл бұрын
Nice ride - fork springs look a little to stiff ??
@gedigan3346
@gedigan3346 11 ай бұрын
What does the subscription model enable? traction control, throttle mapping?
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels Жыл бұрын
My enduro loops are a similar distance but in the deep desert sand with average speeds in the 20s, and top speeds in the 40s to 60s. Not sure it would fare as well in my conditions.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I have more range test’s planned, sand is one of them. Just need to find a proper sand track and some time.
@jaynen
@jaynen Жыл бұрын
I wonder if going down on the weight settings to their "softest" would be the best then? Or if because its going to change springs then it would be too much sag
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I really depends on your weight, but the suspension was way to stiff on this track, you could feel every lite bump. Funny thing is that you can feel the potential in the suspension, on the right kind of track, it feels better then my WP Pro ever did.
@surronzak8154
@surronzak8154 11 ай бұрын
You may try it with way less regen, in my experience with my surron I don't get more rage with regen, even less as it heats up the cables and battery faster, thus increasing internal resistance. Just an idea
@WickedWaysfpv7087
@WickedWaysfpv7087 8 ай бұрын
I must have missed what part he said the power setting was at. Was this on the 80 hp setting
@maximesimard8063
@maximesimard8063 Жыл бұрын
One piece if information that i did not find , is what are the power settings you are using ? That could have an influence on the range
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I used factory map 4: 56hp / 80 % regen during the whole run.
@DavidPeake1
@DavidPeake1 Жыл бұрын
In your presumed range did you consider reduced power at
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t take that into consideration, but it’s a good question. I actually never had battery below 30% so don’t know how the bike would react to different situations below that, but I tried 10hp and 20hp last time I was riding. 10hp was perfect for me to help push the bike into the van and ride around in the pit but useless on the trail, 20hp was easily enough to get around on the trail, albeit really slow. Didn’t try any steep hills.
@vittoriosantiago
@vittoriosantiago Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video how many miles u think it would run on a flat road
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I will do a test with static speeds later on
@user-xn6ii7mz6e
@user-xn6ii7mz6e Жыл бұрын
Vilken effekt kör du den på i Skene? Förstod det som att du ser potentialen i fjädringen men att den är för hård original? Haft några problem med den?
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Ja jag hade velat gå ner ett steg till i fjäder, samt kommer shimsa om den till enduro. Inga problem alls mer än att den är byggd för mx, den har helt klart grym potential och vid rätt underlag så känns den bättre än min WP Pro. Körde Factory map 4: 56hp / 80 % regen.
@tex211
@tex211 Жыл бұрын
We need to know your regen setting and power setting to make proper sense of the range figures please. I am planning to have a regen setting on the maps specifically to maximise regen on downhills.
@tobyread9297
@tobyread9297 Жыл бұрын
80% regen on all his trail riding
@TimothyApe
@TimothyApe 11 ай бұрын
Is the 80 HP of any use? I ask because the torque seems to be sufficiently high in the 50ish Hp range already, and you can't dial up the trackion. So more power = just more spinning tires?
@surronzak8154
@surronzak8154 11 ай бұрын
On the road or supermoto tracks certainly, otherwise I don't think it is usefull
@necrozim
@necrozim Жыл бұрын
Curious to know what the weather temps are too as that dramatically effects other ev's!
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I think it was around 16-18 degrees celsius
@tylermckinnon8326
@tylermckinnon8326 Жыл бұрын
That’s a little on the cold side for ev range in my experience… maybe in warmer temps it will do a little better.. (34 miles? :)
@KarmicPatina
@KarmicPatina Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen race videos of an Alta just passing ICE racers like it’s nothing when it’s slippery and or muddy. Is there any validity to that? Do electric bikes perform more confidently than regular dirt bikes?
@Pepito_sanchez7
@Pepito_sanchez7 11 ай бұрын
google it, electric can setup their motor more easy than gaz. Gaz bike have thier settings based on the timing of piston and etc.. So I guess with all the electric help and the more tuned setting, easy mud ! (im not english I tried my best)
@just_one_opinion
@just_one_opinion 11 ай бұрын
@@Pepito_sanchez7 electrics have Traction control, gassers have clutch.
@Raggesvenne
@Raggesvenne Жыл бұрын
Så de e inte så stor skillnad på räckvidd mot Freeride e eller?
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
Nu har jag inte jämfört dom sida med sida, men kört båda hojarna på samma banor och skulle säga att du har 20-30% mer till Vargens fördel. Sen kan ju det högre effektuttaget minska den skillnaden men jag ligger sällan och maxar hojen.
@TimothyApe
@TimothyApe 11 ай бұрын
Is it really that stealthy? It is hard to judge from what distance you would still notice it. Asking for a friend...
@sw9622
@sw9622 Жыл бұрын
178 wh/mi average
@jrnmoe3740
@jrnmoe3740 Жыл бұрын
How much fuel does a 450 use at the same track doing the same distance at similar speed and condition?
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
I actually have no idea, dont have any friends who ride 450 so really hard to compare.
@jrnmoe3740
@jrnmoe3740 Жыл бұрын
@@enforcer-enduro no one riding any type of gas bikes? I think any comparison to a gas powered bike, 250/300 2stroke/4stroke or whatever is available, would be indicative of whether the "similar to a ful tank on a 450" claim is accurate.
@enforcer-enduro
@enforcer-enduro Жыл бұрын
@@jrnmoe3740 I asked some other riders on the track but no one knows, I think that because that isnt a problem for gas bikes. Ill se if I can do some sort of comparison in the future.
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