Starkey & Fox: The Queen's Legacy

[@davidstarkeytalks]

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[@martygahan]

Thank you.

[@derekmills1080]

I have already 'subscribed' to Laurence's channel, thank you.

[@andrewmicallef-eynaud7492]

David Starkey is a rare jewel in British academia… in the 90s I first attended a lecture of his in Westminster hall…it was pivotal not only to my studies but to my career…

[@bobblue_west]

I agree, a rear jewel. The wokes don't like him a bit, however.

[@Greekay]

I can always rely on Dr Starkey to give an honest commentary from a broader, historical perspective. Without the buzzwords and limitations of the modern mindset.

[@paulschmick869]

Whether you live in Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa or America we have a shared history, culture and language. Elizabeth II was living history and the tie that binds. The extent of good will she engendered and the outpouring of love was so overwhelming that it completely drowned out the leftist haters. We should all be thankful that we lived in the time of Elizabeth.

[@zaygezunt]

Your comment was beautifully expressed and absolutely right. Elizabeth the Great was our last link with our past and the last embodiment of previous generations' honour and duty. Losing her has hurt more than we expected, not least because it seemed somehow she was immortal.

[@Juulmand1]

Thank you for your words. God save King Charles. God preserve the United Kingdom, the greatest nation under Heaven.

[@Juulmand1]

@@BinkySocks Yes, you are right.

[@Juulmand1]

@@zaygezunt Very well said.

[@absoluteacw]

Yes, I agree completely. Well written. Queen Elizabeth was living history, a part of who we were and remain. On hearing of her passing and like many others, dazed yet knew that it would happen due to sadly her years. I felt personally I'd lost someone who I'd known all my live but never knew, if that makes sense. I cried tears. She represented more to each of us than we ever imagined. That to me is the power of her reign and how she conducted herself within that. I am so glad I witnessed the eternal Queen Elizabeth.

[@lalaholland5929]

Great to see Dr Starkey & Lozza Fox together and about our late Queen's funeral and review of her Legacy.

[@maxwellfan55]

Pure unadulterated Starkey. The Windsor vault shelves "a bit like a royal supermarket". It's why we adore you, Richard.

[@piplebref4607]

I loved the bit about Queen Mary 🙂

[@RG-ja34sep]

David Starkey is a complete treasure in every sense of the word. The man is a remarkable storyteller and he captivates everyone who listens to him with his vast knowledge. I would be totally honoured to meet and spend some time with him, along with the other man I consider to be a treasure, Sir David Attenborough!

[@Tinepg]

This blew me away. What a fantastic, true application of historical events to modern life. Thank you.

[@GMN360]

Since the 8th September I have learnt so much more of our monarchy…the beauty of history is that is always something to learn…especially on this very important subject. This is an invaluable episode.

[@ej3016]

indeed we are all “powerfully in need of ritual” - I’m a Diaconal Minister (Christian Educator) in the PCCnd and yet when I can I am in a pew at the nearest Anglican Cathedral for the rituals - this has gone back to my seminary days in early mid eighties - I would be at a Presbyterian Church so somewhere across Toronto, Cnd Sunday mornings and in any number of other denominations churches Sunday night - besides faith rituals there are also families rituals which have severely been interrupted by the pandemic - I come from large farm family - the table was always set for 75 for Christmas dinner - while growing up (am a true child of sixties - am 63 yrs old) Sunday dinners began with sung grace (tune of Old One Hundredth) as a child I was mesmerized by the harmonies and truly felt we had invoked God’s blessings - I could go on but I won’t except to say many many thnx for this incredible conversation with Lawrence - regards 🙏🇨🇦

[@marysteven6347]

We are the same age. I’m in NewZealand and Catholic. I will go to mass overseas and am at home in the ritual. I was taught by Franciscan nuns who were kind and clever - great teachers.

[@TheUnknownCountry]

Very interested by Starkey’s commentary on the institutions and formation of Britain vs America and France. As a Canadian whose ancestors were Loyalists who were forced to leave after the revolution and later fought the Americans in the War of 1812, I truly hope that these institutions and the Monarchy will continue in Canada as well. God save the King.

[@TC-cd5fh]

More excellent teaching, play with ideas, and insight from David Starkey!

[@barbaracleverly9058]

Two of my favourite men, enjoying each other’s company! Great!

[@lebedev63]

Riveting. I could listen to you Dr Starkey all day. And trustworthy history. Thank you so much.

[@twentyrothmans7308]

"I'm a High Church atheist" Sums me up. What a great chat. Thank you both.

[@PhilBaird1]

Fantastic interview that. Thankyou David and Laurence for an enlightening discussion.

[@jeffreymcvey2267]

Well put sir! We need more people like you to communicate, translate and relay our history.

[@bluedeskfan2754]

Quite. I don't know how you make a fascinating subject like history boring, but many teachers manage it.

[@kyurwin]

I love to take you out for lunch but live in Victoria Canada.thank you for a great show . I was born in Iran lived in uk and immigrated to Canada.

[@hughjanus2020]

Love these two geezers together.

[@nigelcowie6883]

I am enjoying this immensely.

[@manusha1349]

Brilliant, as always, David! 👏🏽 you give me hope

[@cameronanderson2200]

Just started watching but this looks like a great one !🎉

[@luxpursuits]

Good to see this version of Laurence. The sooner the other version from the past 3 years disappears the better for us all including him.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

I admired HM King Charles for his honesty and courage in speaking against the worst atrocities of modern architecture, years ago. Modern architecture can be designed elegantly, like the beautiful gherkin building (20? Mary Axe), but much of it is just so downright ugly, it feels like a sarcastic joke against the community. It’s important economically, if for no other reason, for Britain to maintain its architectural and historical heritage. We can see hideous 1950-1960s apartment buildings and malls anywhere on earth, so why go to visit Britain for that? I think the new king has made a terrific start and will continue to do a great job for his country. His new role will bring out his best and he certainly had a long apprenticeship. I was touched that he mentioned love in his speeches, I do think he truly loves his country and that’s the most important thing of all.

[@elkpaz560]

I think he doesn't recognise the political nature of his great causes which are advocated as much by his son and by his parents - climate as crisis is not unchallenged and 'diversity' is another way to destroy nationhood.

[@KarenOCallaghan-u5o]

I’m not a big fan of buildings post-Art Deco. After that, things began being plain and utilitarian. Give me the Chrysler Building any day over a modern office building.

[@stevebryce54]

Outstanding. Many thanks

[@kristytunstall3960]

Fascinating conversation

[@roygardiner2229]

"The catastrophes of Oldham and Rochdale": yes indeed, David.

[@geraldineburston972]

Brilliant…..more please

[@brianreardon9842]

Your Mother’s comments going in to watch the Coronation. Priceless 😂

[@helloboris]

Crystallising the origin of Our language to the 'construction' of monarchy and disassembly of Wokery, Blair and Mrs T and parliament in a way that explains my instincts in a far more cohesive and rational way! Asking each child to reinvent the educational wheel, as elucidated, touched a nerve acutely because I regularly cannot understand what modern writers are trying to convey, or perhaps it's just my advancing years! Thank-you, Mr Starkey, for the explanation of now from the only knowledgeable vantage point, the past. E&OE

[@kennymcallister2523]

Fantastic video again more a podcast which I’d love to see more guests with you interacting I love history and always learning thanks again david Lawrence I could of listened for hrs plenty to discuss with Lawrence again

[@benphilips9918]

We should be thankful that neither the Queen's uncle Edward VIII nor her sister ever acceded to the throne. She and her father were far better role models than their siblings.

[@ronny5661]

"William is heavily 'infected' with wokery". Mr Starkey you are a gem.

[@CorbynismyPMandKing]

And what is so wrong with that when to to be 'woke' in my opinion is to have common decency. Its a very small consolation though because I do think the Royal Family is out of place in today's modern society and needs to be got rid of. Their wealth and various properties and palaces also sicken me and need to be destroyed. This country desperately needs a Revolution. It needs a Socialist Republic in fact.

[@jinz0]

can't wait to see this

[@charlesfortrsqueminor2120]

Starkey has such a fantastic turn of phrase

[@kevindocherty7081]

Absolutely terrific

[@rumplestilskin5776]

Professor Starkey sums up the Prince of Wales with the one perfect word.

[@quackhouseproductions5572]

Great combo

[@mikegalvin9801]

I loved history as a child because I was fascinated with the great stories, the whole ripping yarn aspect. Today students get none of that but only moaning and whining.

[@PhilBaird1]

Me too Mike. History has been hollowed out and corrupted by ideology, revisionism and wokery. The subject has been trashed. That's why we need David Starkey and his ilk to protect the value and meaning of the past.

[@dac545j]

No.

[@RavenShinyThings]

Like this format of a video alot.

[@barefootonasandybeach638]

Mr Fox, Doctor.. good chat. Can we look forward to same anytime soon… please.

[@fomcgirl]

Enjoyed this discussion immensley. Would love to hear a video dedicated entirely to the history of woke ideology.

[@nathaliedufour3891]

Thank you very much 🙏

[@maureenwood2752]

What a fascinating talk.....I have just learnt so much interesting history

[@pinabruno-grieve763]

Absolute quality x

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Goodness, even this ignorant American knows the difference between the Lord Chamberlain and the Lord Chancellor! I do think the BBC did an excellent job on the production of the funeral, it was flawless. I had hoped to hear the traditional Anglican service, but otherwise it was, yes, a great show. I was sorry that Her Late Majesty, whom I admired, died, but she did have a magnificent funeral.

[@jg90049]

I should like to hear your comments on the late Queen's legacy in the United States and the favorable impression her funeral left on the former colonies. We have had only two State Funerals in our history, Lincoln's and Kennedy's, so the Queen's was something relatively new for most of us.

[@headshot6959]

Queen Elizabeth II's funeral was the 'most viewed event in human history' which ought to be taken into consideration for those who are anti-British (*coughs* BBC) and anti-monarchy. The whole world felt a sense of loss at her passing.

[@brianbyrne7655]

Not true

[@headshot6959]

@@brianbyrne7655 Compelling and highly intellectual argument you make there. In you, I have found the intellectual equal for an elderly housefly.

[@katherinecollins4685]

Really enjoyed this

[@mauricewright5279]

General Bruce within the college of arms never gets credit. I am sure he was a keen advisor to the earl marshall and should be lauded.

[@jow6845]

I agree with him about the Westminster service. It was a little ‘light’ I thought, especially in total comparison to the rest of the solemn, structured , measured, and extremely well-rehearsed ceremony the rest of it was.

[@Robert-Downey-Syndrome]

Oh I thought this was a part 2. Already seen it.

[@almatirkey7748]

God save the King👑🇬🇧

[@flatoutt1]

what a great quote ."well i'm an atheist but a high church atheist ,the proper sort of atheist ".makes me chuckle .that's priceless

[@roygardiner2229]

I did enjoy this. I do wish David Starkey would have allowed Laurence to speak more.

[@holly7869]

"High Church atheist" I have such a crush on you, sir.😘

[@AmyWhittlesey-]

American here. So,actually we don’t believe that all are “born equal and free”, but “created equal” & “endowed by our creator with…”. This is not a linguistic nothing. It’s an essential distinction in the way human rights are understood to be derived-that said rights do not rely on the whims of government whether of Kings or others. We have never been anti Monarchy but anti tyranny as it is understood in the Anglo-Christian tradition. It is why we have “separation” between Church and State which simply means that rights come from God directly to men from Christ whose teaching authority is wholly apart from and independent of the controversial ambitions of men wearing hollow crowns.

[@melissarybb]

The most poignant moment for me was the return of the regalia to the Archbishop of Canterbury. It must have been so difficult for King Charles especially, knowing that they were borne by his mother almost all his life and putting them away means what it means. We'll see them again only when he's coronated. I was very moved.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

I wouldn’t want audio commentary during the services, I think it would ruin them, but in captions it would be useful.

[@notlimey]

As a minor historian at a middling university in Canada, I have only one goal: to teach students inductive reasoning.

[@manofkent4472]

My belief is the BBC did a great job with much of the cinematography, however they deliberately avoided telling the viewers who people were and their (and their actions) historical significance. This was to give the whole event a superficial theatrical appearance. One other point, is that there were far too many police and not enough guards - all 2,500 ought to have been there (or maybe they just exist on paper), and why do our troops need to be escorted by a mounted WPCs through closed off streets?

[@spitfiremark1a768]

Seeing Starkey and Fox made me think of a 70s cop show.

[@louisalfrednickolasstalwar7554]

British Empiricism vs. Continental Rationalism Ah, the college days!

[@ktkat1949]

A quick review of Starkey's bio reveals that he was born in Kendall in Cumbria which is where I assume he was living at the time of the coronation. (an event I also can well remember) One would have to wonder at the rank hypocrisy of his mother who 'deeply disapproved' of Mrs. Sarginson and thought that the purchase of the TV set was 'the product of immoral earnings' was able to swallow her indignation long enough to take advantage of her generous neighbour's invitation to watch the great event on their TV set. Given that genealogical research shows that my family, the Sarginsons, have lived in the Cumbria area since the 1500s. In fact I have approximately 45 direct relatives living in that area as of 20 years ago. My grandparents immigrated to Canada before the Great War but the family remained in contact up to this very day. It would appear that the Starkeys were simply parvenus and nasty ones as well. LOL.

[@tatuloa]

So these are the royal Druids lurking in the shadow , That Harry talked about ...

[@JohnSmith-qf3wr]

This is hard to find when you search for it directly in KZbin. I think this account is being shadow banned.

[@pchabanowich]

This is a dare to comment. What I've seen through the thousands of filters over what is reported, why is it not noted how humbly, tirelessly and confidently Queen Consort Camilla attends details, unruffling ruffled feathers, holding what must be a 'crowning moment' together in a seriously domestic sense. Does not the wish of QE II (that she be known as Queen Consort) 💐suggest an amazing trust in Camilla as Queen Consort? This is sent in full heart, rather jaded, distant (West Coast of Canada - 👋), and oddly dispassionately. I find it hard to convey the 'sympathy' with which I am filled to entrust you with this 'old prairie boy's take'. Were any king more blessed when times bring financial chaos to his people?

[@cultureshock5000]

defense capacity save maybe against a land invasion is alot more because of technology even with way less personnel, and nobody can ever get the best of the royal navy enough to launch one of those...not since 1066

[@cultureshock5000]

for a full scale one the french and teh spainish tried to invade ireland and teh french funded bonnie prince charlie

[@andrewcole4843]

The borrowing against the Duchy of Cornwall...

[@namekal6000]

I'm a huge fan of David Starkey... but this video needs a different title. There's almost nothing here about the late Queen's legacy. Some informative and occasionally fascinating insights into the history of royal ceremonies and the office of PoW that quickly degenerate into diatribes against what he terms "wokery." I actually wanted to hear what Starkey has to say about QE2's legacy, and I didn't get it.

[@TheMunchlet]

Thank you! Halfway through the video, I am wondering why no discussion of QE2's legacy and whether to expect there will be later. Pity, but I'll look elsewhere.

[@str.77]

With all due respect for the late Queen as a human being, I think a bit rich to call all those prime ministers lined up for her funeral, "failed politicians" as opposed to Elizabeth being not that. Well, you cannot fail if you never do anything. It is that "King can do no wrong" illusion. Also, she didn't "admirably keep" what die inherited but rather lost the few remaining rights, especially the right to pick her keeper, resulting in the dysfunctional fact that is totally unclear who puts the most powerful person in the country in power. It leads to suggestions like in 2010 that the Queen could only pick a new PM on the advice of the old PM. A bit earlier, she had to endure ten years of a PM lauding the practice of "chopping monarchs' heads off".

[@jimrider17]

I noticed a mistake at Wellington Barracks when tri service guard were correctly formally saluting as the anthem was being played. RN Guard were still marching. FAULT by parade commander, not RN. Yes David a shambles.

[@inisboru3181]

Queen Elizabeth 2 is someone who commanded respect and reverence, I miss her presence in this mad world of liberal lefty nonsense. She was a beacon of hope and what English culture can offer. An Irishman.

[@louisgiokas2206]

David, you make a historical mistake toward the end. At 56:25 or so, you state that the American Revolution pretends to be the French Revolution. Forgive me if I am wrong, but the American preceded the French by about 20 or more years. It was the French copying the American, and then proceeding to radicalize it. The US had the experience of the British system to draw on, and thus did not go too far.

[@southafricandominion]

Bernard Marmaduke Fitzalan-Howard Duke of Norfolk

[@briandelaney9710]

The first Catholic peer of the Realm

[@KarenOCallaghan-u5o]

In the US, a lot of people believe all bad ideas begin in California. And where is the clown prince living?

[@mountbatten2222]

HOW COULD THE FUNERAL CEREMONY HAVE THE " ABSOLUTISMEN" WHEN HER ELDEST GRANDSON AND RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE CROWN WAS MISSING - NOT INVITED !!

[@KarenOCallaghan-u5o]

Queen Elizabeth’s eldest grandson is Peter Phillips, who is currently 18th in the line of succession (or 16th if the Sussex children do not exist). What are you rabbiting on about?

[@mountbatten2222]

@@KarenOCallaghan-u5o YOU ARE MISTAKEN ! I´M TALKING ABOUT CHARLES AND CAMILLAS SON BORN IN 1965 AND GIVEN AWAY FOR ADOPTION RIGHT AFTER HIS BIRTH TO A FAMILY IN AUSTRIA !

[@mrshamster4077]

🥰

[@richjones4956]

She let in 7million immigrants. Referendum on Immigration.

[@cultureshock5000]

LORD PALMERSTON!!!

[@paulwillock3189]

Tom Fleming has never been replaced a a commentator for these royal events , I tried watching CNN , it unbelievable how uninformed they are , better to keep quiet

[@Jilktube]

23:31 clip it

[@RichardPhillips1066]

Woke is the result of French bad philosophy, post modernism?, Foucault?

[@splinterbyrd]

Sid & Doris Bonkers

[@mcpanorama]

The Wokeists, as Starkey says, will make use of the monarchy but do nothing for it.Their ancestor, so to speak, is Philippe d'Orlesns, Philippe Egalite of the French Revolution.

[@cultureshock5000]

i agree with everything u said about putin but the blind imperialism, thats what nato is . Russia is surrounded and its trying to secure its borders thats not imperialist, invading a country full of russians isnt imperialism

[@em-jaytaylor6743]

Well, that last ten minutes didn’t age well huh?

[@charlieminaj2]

I was baffled by the people standing around for 15 hours without working😂😂 It wasn’t a day off? Did they have permission to have the day off? How many pulled sickkys? How many people were unemployed? Because if I was there boss I would have no employees left🤣🤣 How many people who stood around for hours got sacked?🤣 It was a show👀👀

[@littleboxes3625]

You are so funny. In an audience of one you laugh at your own jokes🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@charlieminaj2]

@@littleboxes3625 people who laugh at themselves are the best comedians

[@littleboxes3625]

@@charlieminaj2 no they are just delusional.

[@charlieminaj2]

@@littleboxes3625 you probably protect nonces🤣

[@davepangolin4996]

That’s annoying I thought it was an extra hour

[@mamahustru]

Is William really woke?

[@234cheech]

long may he continue to be political ..god save the king

[@luxpursuits]

Agree about William being too involved in some of the woke issues. Having said that, you cannot dismiss BLM - though some crooks have highjacked the movement, there is a reason for its existence. Both Starkey and Fox better educate themselves on the subject before dismissing it.

[@christinerussell113]

Crooks have highjacked the movement you say. Really, have you read their manifesto,? Added to their close association with Marxist ideology, a toxic mix, and a toxic movement.

[@simongleaden2864]

I wish Dr Starkey hadn't used the f-word at 23:35. I was offended by that. I'm a fan of his, but he has erred here. Another f-word, fornication, would have served perfectly well and caused no offence.

[@reallyoldfatgit]

You’re offended? So what? You’ll get over it, time is a great healer.

[@simongleaden2864]

No doubt, but Dr. Starkey's use of this particular profanity diminishes him in my perception.

[@skate103]

Grow up.

[@oliver5482]

Starkey is hero, Fox is a wanker

[@uhtredragnorson9930]

Dear me! I am proud to be woke and love history which I studied at university. The two go together very well. To be woke is to try to be kind to minorities and to be prepared to put oneself out to be inclusive. What a couple of dinosaurs.

[@CBfrmcardiff]

I suppose my problem with 'woke' is that, in order to be kind to 'minorities' (I use quote marks because some of these groups, such as women, and the sum of these groups together, are not minorities, and because every minority necessarily has within it further minorities, who are not encompassed by 'woke') the woke practices are, first of all, to adopt the views, however problematic, of the 'right', the identitarians, within each minority group, and secondly, to punish anyone who dissents from the up-to-date 'woke' viewpoint. There's NOTHING wrong with calling Starkey a dinosaur who speaks a load of old tosh, or calling him worse, but there is something wrong with a public shaming and public ostracism, with making him persona non grata on tv, with taking away his largely symbolic emeritus positions at university, with dumping him from every organisation in which he had a role. That's poisonous. For the individual, it encourages depression and suicide. For the society, it restricts speech, and restricts thought (of course this is entirely the point). That's my view, anyway.

[@uhtredragnorson9930]

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I certainly was not in favour of banning Starkey, who I have always found very interesting so long as he sticks to history and doesn’t start propagating his unpleasant right-wing views on current affairs. You will tell that I am not taking an extreme position when I say that in spite of everything I still watch any history videos which he creates. I really don’t like Laurence Fox, but again I wouldn’t want him to be banned in anyway. I actually think that it is best if unpleasant views come out openly, rather than being driven underground.

[@CBfrmcardiff]

@@uhtredragnorson9930 Yay! An exchange on social media where each party is happy with the things said by the other! It's great to know that we don't simply have 2 mutually hostile camps, that in a sense we all belong to a great infinity of "camps", eg., we might disagree about trade policy but agree on free speech, or disagree on free speech but agree on statues. I hope you have a great day.

[@trevaudio]

Truly shocking how far starkey has falllen….Laurence Fox !!!! A true barrel bottom scraper !

[@lorrainecrampton1632]

Why? At least he's trying to stand up for our culture and heritage. He's pushing back against the woke lefty mob and has paid a very high price for it. I'm sure that most people listening to this found it to be very interesting.

[@christinerussell113]

In what way, in what sense. Do you simply mean you disagree with what each of them have said/stand for . In which case, why have you been watching this, a masochist perhaps? Or just desperate to tell the rest of us how you feel about them . Newsflash, the rest of us are interested in what they have to say. In turn, you are free to go elsewhere and find an echo chamber that suits.

[@christinerussell113]

@@oliverapex7924 Another who believes his opinion, like that of his fellow lefty losers, is somehow more valid, and enough to make the rest of us ignore an individual who has more intellectual capacity and knowledge than exists in your tiny, closed mind. And no doubt your own superior moral character allows you to pass absolute judgement, "no decent person" wants anything to do with him you say, decent by whose standards?. Because some of those who were desperate to condemn him have been revealed by their own nasty, spiteful behaviour and comments, to be anything but decent. Frankly, the way you lot piled in on him, all eager to throw your own stones, says more about your character than it does about his. Keep chewing on your spite and envy, it obviously gives your sad little life some meaning.

[@helloboris]

Crystallising the origin of Our language to the 'construction' of monarchy and disassembly of Wokery, Blair and Mrs T and parliament in a way that explains my instincts in a far more cohesive and rational way! Asking each child to reinvent the educational wheel, as elucidated, touched a nerve acutely because I regularly cannot understand what modern writers are trying to convey, or perhaps it's just my advancing years! Thank-you, Mr Starkey, for the explanation of now from the only knowledgeable vantage point, the past. E&OE