So...Is Zach Wilson Garbage?

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Stark Raving Sports

Stark Raving Sports

Күн бұрын

New York Jets QB Zach Wilson has become one of the most polarizing players in the NFL. A TV analyst once publicly used the word "garbage" when describing his performance in the NFL. So, we plan to give you the facts and let you decide if that was fair...
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@nickperkins8502
@nickperkins8502 Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson wasn’t supposed to be in this situation right now. This was rodgers team, at least for a few years. Then Wilson was supposed to take over after learning and using rodgers as a mentor. Didn’t work out that way though
@StarkRavingSports
@StarkRavingSports Жыл бұрын
“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth” - Mike Tyson
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Жыл бұрын
But my momma said (i can win), "Buster Douglas"
@Eastsid3
@Eastsid3 Жыл бұрын
​@@StarkRavingSportspoor use of that quote.
@WandererJester
@WandererJester Жыл бұрын
Get the double hit of the fact the offense was set up for Rodgers to basically be the OC. That and the OL being quite terrible
@basicmeme1040
@basicmeme1040 Жыл бұрын
Also there weren't supposed to be 2+ backup lineman
@JamesSavik
@JamesSavik Жыл бұрын
Wilson has grown up a lot so far this season. If he continues to improve by the playoffs, Jets fans will be glad to have him.
@BoboMcBooboy
@BoboMcBooboy Жыл бұрын
That's assuming they make playoffs at all lmfao
@No85Limits
@No85Limits Жыл бұрын
if they make the playoffs, rodgers might be back... supposedly the tear wasn't that bad (compared to how bad it could have been)
@schizophrenic_AI
@schizophrenic_AI Жыл бұрын
Lol
@bradspicks
@bradspicks 7 ай бұрын
He w/ the Bronc's Savik where Bo Nix will rule the rocky mountain boys
@SRSMike
@SRSMike Жыл бұрын
I will never turn down an opportunity to talk about my relationship with the Jets
@ethanniedorowski116
@ethanniedorowski116 Жыл бұрын
As a pats fan thank you... your the only good moments I get now
@bonesthegod585
@bonesthegod585 Жыл бұрын
Where’d you get the black jets bomber
@SRSMike
@SRSMike Жыл бұрын
@@bonesthegod585I saw this picture of Method Man wearing it on Twitter and someone managed to track down the shop link on the replies
@johnfaris5376
@johnfaris5376 Жыл бұрын
Zach has shown so much improvement this season its stunning. Against KC he looked as good as any QB in the game (except for the fumble which could happen to anyone). Considering the facts that he is often running for his life from unblocked defenders and that he has had what seems like an excessive number of dropped passes, he looks like a viable nfl qb. The players have seen these realities and seem to be solidly behind him and more fans are growing that way as well. Almost beating KC, beating philly for the first time, making some amazing throws are moving the needle in his favor and I think rightly so. if he continues this season's rate of improvement he will be very good, very soon.
@patrickcpuc5
@patrickcpuc5 Жыл бұрын
I think the offensive coordinator needs to open the game up for him. Give him a few options. Rodgers needs to be there to talk to him and help him grow. O-line needs to give him a little more time. And the receivers need to stop dropping passes as they did in the Philly game. He has the talent…but what he does with it is up to him.
@JohnDoe-rr1fz
@JohnDoe-rr1fz Жыл бұрын
He has a 73 passer rating and more picks than TDs
@slqnderousgaming8449
@slqnderousgaming8449 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-rr1fzhis stats are much worse than they should be, which you can see if u watch any jets game. He constantly gets fucked by his receivers or his o line
@matthewhohenbery2287
@matthewhohenbery2287 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who actually watches the Jets & football
@jhernandez1071
@jhernandez1071 Жыл бұрын
that was the same thing with tua, im rooting for wilson. its hard to complete a pass when you have to run for your life as soon as you get the ball. everyone said tua was the biggest bust but he had the same oline situation at that time as wilson does now. rodgers literally got hurt the first drive of the season because the oline is that bad
@jayinthebx
@jayinthebx Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson college highlights shows he has crazy arm strength. He was throwing darts
@marceloverlorx8232
@marceloverlorx8232 Жыл бұрын
Zach was a project QB. To start him out the gate the way they did was a bad decision
@FavreianVengeance
@FavreianVengeance 10 ай бұрын
I didn't have a problem with it. But the way they jerked him around in Season 2 shows what a nonsense organization this is. Benching him for a guy who can barely throw beyond the sticks (that CFL guy) would've severely undermined anyone.
@Xeryph_
@Xeryph_ Жыл бұрын
He has definitely improved and it sucks that Rodgers went down because Zach could have grown quite a bit over the course of this season sitting behind him!
@QueenZ4EvR
@QueenZ4EvR Жыл бұрын
Well he now has Rodgers back to talk to on the side line and on the Mic.
@proskeptical789
@proskeptical789 Жыл бұрын
@@QueenZ4EvRThis is what I noticed immediately. Zach plays way better if Rodgers is talking to him
@Jaymitch3
@Jaymitch3 Жыл бұрын
He’ll be sitting next year and then when it’s it’s turn again he’ll be super duper franchise qb 15 years ready Watch how this story plays out.
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
Trevor Lawrence is doing fine and Zach’s suppose to be Mahomes n Rodgers like right? Fields and Matt Jones seem to be doing okay and can show they can do things! Zach Wilson is showing he’s a bust for going #2! He didn’t deserve that spot others should of went #2!
@Imbreadtt
@Imbreadtt Жыл бұрын
@@JerZ_Grape17nOXYou just said Mac jones is doing good? He’s ass, Wilson is better than Mac, Zach Wilson is actually doing good with Rodgers helping him, you have not been watching the nfl lately.
@Trillyana
@Trillyana Жыл бұрын
He's already shown improvement in two areas: -Running forwards to pick up yardage when no one is open instead of just running around sideways and backwards until someone gets open -Ability to complete short, easy passes. Weird that he had so much trouble with it before, but it was like he thought he had to throw it as hard as he possibly could on short passes. He's gotten that down. He's certainly not good or Trevor Lawrence, and Hackett's conservative, predictable playcalling in some games and bad OL play have hurt him, but he's at least shown some growth
@ggregg2667
@ggregg2667 Жыл бұрын
He now looks like a solid backup option. They are still the lowest scoring offense in the league.
@QueenZ4EvR
@QueenZ4EvR Жыл бұрын
He is improving. The main issue that keeps getting overlooked he continues to loose O-linemen. He is learning and using his legs more.
@yotemgote
@yotemgote Жыл бұрын
they have mostly played great secondaries, but that changes after the bye. We will see what he can do then@@ggregg2667
@stevenferrera4838
@stevenferrera4838 Жыл бұрын
I’ll add in that he looks more comfortable in the pocket. He use to bail out immediately
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
ZW was drafted to the wrong destination; he needed to go to a more competent team that wasn’t looking to win now. QBs are more easily destroyed than developed; and the Jets is where young drafted QBs typically get destroyed.
@financenco
@financenco Жыл бұрын
It is first year with real offensive coaching. The difference is huge. The issue has been Offensive line, receivers that can't separate, and lack of coaching. The coaching has been better. There are some pieces on offense, but it is still an offensive line, receivers not separating or running wrong routes, or dropping passes. Like yesterday. Add one big penalty. Garrett was hobbling. Other than that, the supporting cast has to do better, too.
@davet2459
@davet2459 Жыл бұрын
People saying maybe he's a late bloomer and all is crazy. This dude is still only 24 and is still younger than Aaron Rodgers and Joe Burrow were when they made their first career NFL start. Geno Smith is a late bloomer. Zach Wilson is still effectively a rookie, there is plenty of time.
@brettrossi034
@brettrossi034 Жыл бұрын
As much as we all want to place all the stock and hype into a player coming out of college, we all still have to realize that this is jumping into the NFL and playing the best competition and all the pressure to perform in front of the world at the same time. Also, its not easy being so young and to perform immediately. At least with Rodgers hurt hes still got the support of him through this tough time
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
Trevor Lawrence is doing fine and Zach’s suppose to be Mahomes n Rodgers like right? Fields and Matt Jones seem to be doing okay and can show they can do things! Zach Wilson is showing he’s a bust for going #2! He didn’t deserve that spot others should of went #2!
@TheSavageJetdiRustySpooner
@TheSavageJetdiRustySpooner Жыл бұрын
​@AquaBanks .....you only hate Zach because you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome and it clearly shows 😷🤣😘,,,LETS GO JETS!!! 💪🇺🇲✈️🙌
@KenC4242
@KenC4242 Жыл бұрын
@@JerZ_Grape17nOXeasy to say this in hindsight ZW was the 2-3 ranked Qb out of college and. A lot of QBs need to adjust and be in the right system. B4 Mike McDaniel TUA WAS STRUGGLING and he literally got benched. Look at him now with Tyreek and Waddle and a healthy run game……. Exactly!!!!!
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
@@KenC4242 don’t even compare Zach to Tua that’s disrespectful and before he had them Tua actually showed he could PLAY IN THE NFL!! Tua played ACTUAL COMPETITION in college nor mediocre to decent teams like BYU did! Zach shouldn’t have been ranked that close to Lawrence who basically is MILES AHEAD of ZW how does that work out if your the #2 pick in the whole draft not #8 not #25 but #2?? Fields and Mac Jones went after and are proving they should of went ahead are they not? ZW hasn’t been better than them even went a TOP DEFENSE
@aceroy9195
@aceroy9195 Жыл бұрын
​@AquaBanks fields and mac Jones shouldn't have been picked in the first round. Bears are a poverty franchise and Bill is a bad gm. ZW might be statistically worse than those two. But he's the only one of the three whose stats are improving with each game. I give fields next season before he's dropped. And Mac Jones is gone by the end of the year
@wilsonli5642
@wilsonli5642 Жыл бұрын
I'm not under any illusions that Zach is taking us to the Super Bowl this year, but I'll say 2 things for him: 1) His accuracy is hugely improved this year. He was regularly missing short passes and even passes behind the LOS the last few years, and that basically isn't happening at all anymore. Maybe Hackett actually knows what he's doing. 2) The offensive line is still terrible, especially with Vera-Tucker and now Tippman out again. If Rodgers goes back out there again this season somehow, he's going to get destroyed again. Wilson seems to have been able to take the hits so far - he was sacked 5 times in the win over the Eagles and 4 times against the Broncos, and still won. Maybe it's just his youth, or maybe just luck that none of those hits were hard enough to really hurt him, but that resilience is going to be really important this season.
@edschneidmuller9496
@edschneidmuller9496 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't a Zack fan at first but with all the hate from Jets fans and me being a fan of the underdog now I want Zack to mature and become a great QB if just to prove all these horrible Jets "fans" wrong! Go Zack.
@FavreianVengeance
@FavreianVengeance 10 ай бұрын
It is Jets fans for the most part. I've been following this. They largely don't think for themselves. Whatever the media tells them to hate, that's what they hate.
@ripharambe4796
@ripharambe4796 Жыл бұрын
tf was rodney harrison doing
@iancypes5911
@iancypes5911 Жыл бұрын
Being a hater. He was on the 18-1 Patriots so He probably hates all of New York
@yabarber9285
@yabarber9285 Жыл бұрын
He was doing what he’s paid to do.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
Rodney Harrison has always been a punk with no TV personality talent. I have no idea why he was given that job; he’s come across rough like that before and created this type of awkwardness on the air.
@4gpaa
@4gpaa Жыл бұрын
being an accurate analyst
@Isthatthegrimreaper170
@Isthatthegrimreaper170 9 ай бұрын
Never forget that the personal coach they hired to mentor and help him was killed in an accident a month before his rookie year R.I.P Greg Knapp
@xtlm
@xtlm Жыл бұрын
I've watched like 3 or 4 Jets games this year and I don't really know how that happened. All I knows, is that he beat Allen and Hurts. And also completely outplayed Mahomes for a loss.
@MU-nf9tl
@MU-nf9tl Жыл бұрын
He has a real offensive coach and scheme for the first time in hit career, this is effectively his rookie year in a sense. He’d only played like 20 games coming into this season. Which is why the Jets brought in Rodgers, the idea being he’d sit behind a QB and develop. They were resetting the initial process, which they admit they failed. He still has the arm talent and his jump in a new system with a real coach is palpable. Rarely does a play have a chance to turn their career around with the team they initially flopped for. Not too get too far ahead of myself, still a lot of football left, but if he keeps developing at this pace he just might get that chance.
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 Жыл бұрын
that last sentence was not worded correctly. it's not that zack outplayed those pro bowl QBs. it's that those QBs played worse than zack did
@mayneiscool
@mayneiscool Жыл бұрын
@@mgtow-balance3409So he outplayed them?
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@personhuman2239
@personhuman2239 Жыл бұрын
@@mgtow-balance3409 "I drink the liquid extracts of fruits and vegetables, but I don't drink juice."
@rayrodriguez7367
@rayrodriguez7367 Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to wait a bit and put yesterday's Eagles game in there but good stuff
@WaySheGoes12
@WaySheGoes12 Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely in the minority but I’ve always been rooting for this guy
@scratchlegba2944
@scratchlegba2944 Жыл бұрын
Not saying Wilson isn’t at some fault “hasn’t learned how to throw with touch yet “ but the jets Franchise has consistently done a piss poor job developing quarterbacks .. he came from a small school that ran a simple offense & he rarely saw any pressure , he needed work on his mechanics, foot work & comprehension of a pro style offense & diagnostics of defensive alignments ,, Hacketts presence has made a noticeable difference imho , Zach still needs to tighten up a few things & become faster at his reads & more decisive in the red zone .. but his work in between the 20s is much better , he’s a year & a half behind in development compared to most 3rd year quarterbacks, again I blame his original offensive coordinators lack of interest in developing him for this ,
@kylebeguhl8516
@kylebeguhl8516 Жыл бұрын
That edit on Jay Cutler doing the griddy was actually kinda funny.
@StarkRavingSports
@StarkRavingSports Жыл бұрын
Jay Cutler is gonna be shocked when he finds out he hit the griddy
@Omar_listenin
@Omar_listenin Жыл бұрын
Got completely hosed by the refs in that chiefs game. Not the worst call in a big spot in recent memory, but up there. All I could think was they NFL didn't want the swifty fans to be upset so they told the refs to start calling defensive holding even though they hadn't been calling it all game up until that point
@Geistyy
@Geistyy Жыл бұрын
He’s showing significant improvement. Also, the stats with JR might be identical, it’s no question that coming out, Zach has the more talented arm. Zach issue has always been his decision making with ball security and read progression. His ball security has gotten significantly better. His 3 pick game against Dallas, every pick came in the final 10 minutes of the game, down 3 scores, trying to push the ball, and only one of the 3 picks was wildly off target. One he got hit while throwing, the other was tipped by the receiver. My biggest issue with the Zach Wilson hate, is where was this kid destined to be good with the tools he has been given? LaFleur was a first year OC with no experience developing a quarterback or calling plays with Kyle Shanahan the head coach in San Fran. The guy that was meant to be the veteran mind in the qb room passed away before he even took a snap in practice, and they never brought someone else in to help both him, and LaFleur. Also, LaFleur didn’t mold a system to highlight Wilson’s strength, he was very “you have to fit this system the way I need you to”, and had no clue how to make adjustments. We drafted Garrett Wilson and Breece, great, but who else do you have? Our offensive line? One of the dirt cheapest lines that has ranked bottom 5 in pass block win rate the last 2 years, and is second to last so far this year, with injuries decimating the already terrible group even more. Trevor Lawrence? He’s a good quarterback, yeah, his rookie year was a mess too. He threw for 3600, yeah, but watch the tape. Kid had twice as many turnovers bc he put the ball on the ground 3 times a game too. So what’d they do? Fored Urban Meyer. Brought in an offensive minded head coach who knew how to develop a qb. They went out and signed the right guys for him to target, gave him weapons, set up a decent line to protect him, and he broke out. It’s not all about Zach. The team needs to be set up for him to succeed too, and it vastly has not been. If it always just fell onto the shoulders of the quarterback, then Mahomes wouldn’t be having an awful season with no receivers or line.
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
No he’s not! He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@Geistyy
@Geistyy Жыл бұрын
@@JerZ_Grape17nOX come back in another few weeks and let’s see if his improvement continues. To me, this is his rookie year.
@Imbreadtt
@Imbreadtt Жыл бұрын
@@JerZ_Grape17nOXGo Watch the 2023-2024 nfl, you’re watching the wrong year
@rk13567
@rk13567 Жыл бұрын
He's been very noticably better so far this year, and has had a better mindset too. I think there's a decent chance he becomes at least a middling QB in the league
@TheHockeyjock10
@TheHockeyjock10 Жыл бұрын
Daniel Jeremiah single-handedly shot this dude’s draft stock through the roof at his pro day. Kid had one throw that was absurd in terms of pure arm talent, but in no way did he show an elite ability to understand defensive schemes.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
Did Justin Fields who was at one point the projected #1 pick with as much high competition college experiences showed an elite ability to understand defensive schemes? How about about Peyton Manning? He was worst than ZW after 2 seasons; and it took him about 4 seasons to finally find his groove. For some reason, the bar’s been raised much higher with zero patience for ZW’s development curve.
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHighlanderprime It's New York -- that's kind of how we do. The last QB the Jets developed successfully was kept off camera for two years.
@THCthehempcloud
@THCthehempcloud Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I never really liked the guy but I now understand that homie is getting a bad break. Imma watch him closer from now on
@semperconstance
@semperconstance Жыл бұрын
That nowhere in here did you even mention the Jets truly terrible offensive line play is criminal negligence.
@johng.4711
@johng.4711 Жыл бұрын
He’s doing ok for a backup right now. He’s at least shown progress. I wanted him sent to the CFL last year but he’s won me over.
@jonart8433
@jonart8433 Жыл бұрын
Mannnnn those first 3 games this season it seemed his OL just didnt care about him and let him get destroyed
@robertbrentjr857
@robertbrentjr857 Жыл бұрын
I guess you didn't see his o line allowing 60 mins of pressure and his receivers dropping passes...has he made mistakes yes
@minigungamer5583
@minigungamer5583 Жыл бұрын
He needs to focus on football and not moms
@theduckfromthejoke152
@theduckfromthejoke152 Жыл бұрын
Meh
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
That ZW milf-story was last pre-season.
@theduckfromthejoke152
@theduckfromthejoke152 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHighlanderprime Yeah but one of these things he has a future in, And the other one of these things is football
@rthompson1330
@rthompson1330 Жыл бұрын
Moron
@noot6230
@noot6230 Жыл бұрын
I have been and remain a Zach Wilson believer, it’s definitely hard but I see a lot of potential with him and I think if he gets the mentorship from Rodgers that he was meant to, he can be a good to great QB for us. And of course getting O line help is a necessity
@RwandaBob
@RwandaBob Жыл бұрын
i just think american sports fans and sports media are way too quick to elevate hype for young guys and also tearing them down it takes time to figure out the highest levels of pro sports. not everyone can be a lebron james or aaron rodgers and start doing insanely well at the pro level but at the same time just because young guys don’t reach that level in their first couple seasons it doesn’t mean they’re trash
@rockedthecrapout
@rockedthecrapout Жыл бұрын
He's not looking at the rush coming for him anymore, keeping his eyes down the field, that's the first step in the right direction to become a good QB👍 he'll get the rest in time.
@HarrisonHollers
@HarrisonHollers Жыл бұрын
A reporter asked “do you feel you let the defense down?” Wilson said “No.” if he said Yes, I let the defense down, the narrative would have been he lacked the confidence to make it as a starting QB in NY. Wilson had knee injuries in his first and second year. He missed training camp last year. He was the backup getting minimal reps this year. The national media made his mom the lead story over him being the second overall pick. Then his Ex airs their dirty laundry on social media - if a man did that to a woman, the guy would be destroyed! He’s played Belichick 5 times which accounts for most of his turnovers; most young QBs have similar experiences. He’s been awful, just like all the other Quartbacks for the Jets that came before him. *I still believe in Zach Wilson!
@frankzilla2735
@frankzilla2735 Жыл бұрын
P
@avery4528
@avery4528 Жыл бұрын
I don’t get why the ESPN media teams were shitting on him. He makes big time plays.
@bondson0094
@bondson0094 Жыл бұрын
Big time plays?????? are you blind some folk are pure delusional when t comes to this Kid. Mark Sanchez looks like Tom Brady compared to him.
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
He is garbage are you serious! Matt Sanchez played better than Zach ever did and he didn’t go #2! Wilson was not a better QB than Fields or Matt Jones
@avery4528
@avery4528 Жыл бұрын
@@bondson0094 yeah dude big time plays. He's got a top 5 arm in the nfl. honestly throws the most pretty deep ball right now
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM Жыл бұрын
​@@avery4528He has never hit a reciever in stride for a TD in his life for a TD over 31 sir yards with YAC. He has one schemed TD over 12 yards in 27 games. His deep ball sucks
@DwayneIsKing
@DwayneIsKing Жыл бұрын
It's not Zach's fault that he was chosen this high. Yes he's not a number 2 quarterback, but dammit he's been okay enough for them to be above .500. But Rodney Harrison is such a damn clown for what he said trying to get another player to bash him. He knows damn well hiw tough it is to play quarterback, especially being dropped in a win-now mode, not even mentioning he's playing IN NEW YORK. Arguably the toughest and most scrutinized market there is in the NFL. He should know better 😒
@rumporridge1
@rumporridge1 Жыл бұрын
Lost all respect for Rodney.
@DwayneIsKing
@DwayneIsKing Жыл бұрын
@@rumporridge1 absolutely. And I had IMMENSE respect for that dude too 🤦🏿
@mgtow-balance3409
@mgtow-balance3409 Жыл бұрын
@@DwayneIsKing i never respected him or his sucka ass homeboy tedy bruschii. i watched a LOT of jets / patriots games. i noticed that both of them would take extra shots after they made a tackle. i don't know how they never got called out for that. maybe rodney was cool in san diego, but after seeing that happen a few times with new england, i never respected any of them
@MU-nf9tl
@MU-nf9tl Жыл бұрын
Previous years aside this is the first season he has a real offensive coach and scheme, this is effectively his rookie year in a sense. He’d only played like 20 games coming into this season. Which is why the Jets brought in Rodgers, the idea being he’d sit behind a QB and develop. They were resetting the initial process, which they admit they failed. He still has the arm talent and his jump in a new system with a real coach is palpable. Rarely does a player have a chance to turn their career around with the team they initially flopped for. Not to get too far ahead of myself, still a lot of football left, but if he keeps developing at this pace he just might get that chance.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
You and I are making a much layered analysis of ZW than most; thecae’t understand the prejudicial hatred and profound impatience against this kid.
@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@JerZ_Grape17nOX Жыл бұрын
He went #2 and is playing like a bust! He didn’t deserve that spot Fields or even Mac Jones could have went to the Jets and it probably would of been better! Zach Wilson played no REAL competition in college this is facts so why he get so much praise? Jets literally turned they’re back on him and got Rodgers…Old RODGERS yes who’s a legend but he went #2! If Trevor was in that position the whole league and you yourself would be calling him a bust going FIRST and being benched or overlooked for an old MVP!
@sherqyanstromain9580
@sherqyanstromain9580 Жыл бұрын
​@@JerZ_Grape17nOXyeah so make the best of the situation not be bitter
@MU-nf9tl
@MU-nf9tl Жыл бұрын
Nobody you mentioned has ostensibly outplayed him. JF started the season, weeks 1-3, worse than ZW. Mac Jones is arguably the worst QB in the NFL right now. And ZW has looked incrementally better each week this year, especially the last 3 weeks- not to jinx it. The last 3 weeks he's been putting up top 15 QB numbers, advanced statistics show. Which is why you need to consider that ZW never had a legitimate offensive coach before this season. @@JerZ_Grape17nOX
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli Жыл бұрын
i think a lot of us have gotten spoiled and expect a rookie qb to come in and play like how Marino did - it's not the norm, even Peyton had to take a few real bad seasons to find his footing. I think Wilson will be fine if given the time and support - he certainly could have folded under the pressure that he's under and yet here we are, the Jets at 3-3 and looking like they could pull off a run with what the upcoming schedule looks like.
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM Жыл бұрын
Yeah sort of like Shroud, Howell and Richardson
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli Жыл бұрын
@@TonydaGM They're off to good starts especially given the talent level of their teams - espeically Shroud. As a Dolphins fan, this highlights why Im not sold on Tua. Shroud doesnt have the talent Tua is working with and yet Shroud is putting up similiar if not better numbers. Either way, glad to see more potential franchise QBs - the NFL is always better with top tier QBs for all of us to watch.
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM Жыл бұрын
@@The_Zilli I'm a Jet fan , I wanted Howell and Hooker. Hooker can throw a football.
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM Жыл бұрын
@chriszilli9717 I'm a Jet fan , nothing wrong with Tua except injury history. I think the supporting cast is helping him a lot
@The_Zilli
@The_Zilli Жыл бұрын
@@TonydaGM exactly, that and the coaching staff which makes it really difficult to tell if he's legit or just benefitting from the absurd amount of talent around him right now. How many QBs have a 4x100 track team at their disposal lol
@carniedph
@carniedph Жыл бұрын
He's not garbage that's just the media being dumb.
@paduls
@paduls Жыл бұрын
Mike LaFleur stunted Zach's development completely and itll always be overshadowed by the quote that Connor Hughes baited him into. ill die on this hill seeing actual growth now
@TonydaGM
@TonydaGM Жыл бұрын
The QB's not named Wilson averaged over 300 yards with ML.
@paduls
@paduls Жыл бұрын
that does nothing to prove he is a good OC@@TonydaGM
@Reaper_ginger
@Reaper_ginger Жыл бұрын
I’m almost every game you’ll see flashes of his talent but then he’ll make a boneheaded play. I hope he can turn it around with Rodgers’ guidance but he definitely is on a short leash
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
Tell you the truth I'm not seeing the boneheaded plays anymore. Or what I think I really mean is that the boneheaded plays almost always belong to another player. "Jesus Christ -- Connor McGovern flagged for running down the field. Why does he keep doing that?" "Oof, the ball hit him right in that hands. I wish he'd caught it, but that's a tough spot for a receiver to make a catch if you really look at it" are mutters at the TV when I've been watching games this year. [edit: the second quote is sarcastic. I've been told my sarcasm is undetectable, which leads to a lot of weird conversations.]
@Reaper_ginger
@Reaper_ginger Жыл бұрын
@@jessejordache1869 I think it stems from us Jets fans being so used to dumping it all on Zach every time something goes wrong with the offense that when the mistakes come from other players we just intuitively blame Zach. He still has those wtf moments like the time he threw a pass directly to Matt Milano but there have been less moments where it’s simply Zach being inept
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
@@Reaper_ginger Yeah, bad interception, no doubt. But that game featured the last incident of a few of Zach's bad habits -- I haven't seen "invisible zone defender syndrome" or "whirling Dervish Zach" since. Now it's just a lot of "red zone booby trapped to raise the forcefield around the endzone syndrome" which seems to be more of a group problem. So, I just got through a review of the Eagles-Miami game, and the Miami fans are like "you can't POSSIBLY expect good quarterback play when you have three offensive linemen out", and I'm like "you guys have no clue."
@Joshua-uw7wm
@Joshua-uw7wm Жыл бұрын
Zach "milf hunter" Wilson I want that to become his nickname so bad
@genebarker1023
@genebarker1023 Жыл бұрын
Zack Wilson is definitely not garbage. How many quarterbacks come into the league and perform well the rookie year? Has Trevor done well? Certainly not in his rookie year and I think he is going to be a great quarterback eventually. The 2 young men who went to Chicago and San Francisco have not done well either. I think the quarterback for San Francisco is out of the game completely due to injury. None of these young men are garbage. I think the problem is with fans, impatient, critical, with narrow vision and wanting instant gratification. There are no young men playing in he NFL that are garbage, most of them are highly skilled, motivated, dedicated and want very much to be the best they can be. I wish them all well and appreciate their efforts. Have a great day.
@rawbfish9355
@rawbfish9355 Жыл бұрын
You said Zach only won 3 of his 13 games. But The Jaguars only won 3 games in 2021. So Lawrence had more losses and at least the same wins.
@joemac999
@joemac999 Жыл бұрын
He's complete garbage. He's done nothing to improve since he got into the league. Literally nothing.
@TurnOffYourTV
@TurnOffYourTV 10 ай бұрын
🔥🗑. the League's Worst Player
@amahana6188
@amahana6188 Жыл бұрын
He's clearly improving. Keep him behind Rogers for another year...and keep the game simple for him until then Rogers is back this season, and he may turn into a legit NFL QB.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
He’s just as projected, a late bloomer picked at #2 from BYU who was selected by a terrible team when it comes to patience and properly grooming a young and raw QB. Jets fans in NYC are more starved to win now; they’d trash any developing QB that don’t hit the ground running like Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow. Regarding Trevor Lawrence, the team and new HC in Peterson trusted him enough to allow him to throw the ball and work his way through his mistakes and INTs. ZW never had this luxury in NYC with a rookie HC, a rookie OC and a fanbase with PTSD and zero patience for a raw and young developing QB because winning immediately is all they’ve ever cared for because they’ve been losers forever.
@jdest2619
@jdest2619 Жыл бұрын
I think he's the guy, he's shown me enough this year that he can be that dude for us. Has the flashes of that arm talent while he has clearly learned how to manage a game now.
@Andman8210
@Andman8210 Жыл бұрын
Wilson is good but needs help to become good enough
@braydenobrien3732
@braydenobrien3732 Жыл бұрын
Hes young talented but doesnt have the processing speed to be an effective throw
@KortlundBroadway-e9r
@KortlundBroadway-e9r Жыл бұрын
HE'S NOT GARBAGE, HE JUST VERY RAW
@someperson8151
@someperson8151 Жыл бұрын
He looks like a high school kid thrown into NFL games. He might need 3 to 4 more years to mature.
@-EnforcerVFX-
@-EnforcerVFX- Жыл бұрын
bruh in 2021 Lawrence had 600 passing attempts nearly double zach wilsons, Im no jets fan but pretty sure theres more to that statline than just Yards and TD's. Coming into his 3rd year and the Jets trying to bench him without a real shot. he's already on track to have more pass attempts than his whole 2022 season in less than 3 weeks. Give the homeboy some time to grow damn
@alanconnelly3921
@alanconnelly3921 Жыл бұрын
Give zach credit he been critized so much media bashing him and he shut those haters up last 3 games 😊
@Mizzle200
@Mizzle200 Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson is improving
@VidaBlue317
@VidaBlue317 Жыл бұрын
Is Zach Wilson hooked on purple drank?
@ripharambe4796
@ripharambe4796 Жыл бұрын
nah that was jay cutler
@deepmaidenforce
@deepmaidenforce Жыл бұрын
I got about three minutes into this video before the full.... wtf is this black flags matter doing an NFL video for SRS?!?!? This is the kinda collab that makes me love this channel and everyone you choose to highlight
@paulmaggiar8274
@paulmaggiar8274 Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson has untapped magic in him, and there is nothing like emerging from mediocrity to prove it. I hope he remains the Jets quarterback into the playoffs.
@ateddybear1392
@ateddybear1392 Жыл бұрын
Lol I’m watching this like.. “that sounds just like Black Flags Matter, like exactly like” lol. Great vid too!
@StarkRavingSports
@StarkRavingSports Жыл бұрын
Well we’re blessed to have EXACTLY him on the squad 💜
@DavidSims-Music
@DavidSims-Music Жыл бұрын
Wilson got a bad wrap. As an Eagles fan, the Philly D wasnt making it easy on ZW and he still made some nice plays.
@nebraskajoenelson8987
@nebraskajoenelson8987 Жыл бұрын
He's not garbage....but he'll never be an elite QB. He's a Rex Grossman, Ryan Fitzpatrick...amd seemingly Justin fields. When He's good...He's good...when he's bad...he's AWFUL, and no in-between
@rumporridge1
@rumporridge1 Жыл бұрын
Still way too early for that assessment.
@HarrisonHollers
@HarrisonHollers Жыл бұрын
I think Zach had the highest PFF grade as a QB in his last year in college
@bennetthardy
@bennetthardy Жыл бұрын
Obviously made this after eagles win but ill give you that. I agree he needs consistency and then we will keep winning games.
@steveraimee486
@steveraimee486 Жыл бұрын
Wilson played a perfect game. 0 interceptions, 0 fumbles. The only stat which matters for him is turnovers
@pa.encema2821
@pa.encema2821 Жыл бұрын
0 TD's
@danielhetue6968
@danielhetue6968 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes yes and no. But look what he and the Jets did to the Eagles!! They ended their opponent’s undefeated record after being 0-12 in franchise history!!
@lenordbrazil9580
@lenordbrazil9580 Жыл бұрын
He just beat the Eagles and your going to call him garbage
@xxcelr8rs
@xxcelr8rs 8 ай бұрын
He impressed the hell out of me taking questions post a rough game on the podium.
@therealsammyspits2762
@therealsammyspits2762 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being Zach Wilson and watching this.
@awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015
@awakenedbyyhuhassembly6015 Жыл бұрын
Neither Zach nor Trevor will be a hof
@EJD339
@EJD339 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine if Zach Wilson played under Urban Meyer
@aarontracy5160
@aarontracy5160 Жыл бұрын
Another Jets year and the fans are slamming their QB. Death, Taxes and the Jets QB Sucks. Jets chew up and spit out everyone. Rex Ryan had what QB in the playoffs? And somehow the Jets hated Rex. Crap franchise.
@dmgd509
@dmgd509 Жыл бұрын
His defense has to win games... so short answer... yup 😂😂
@douglepong
@douglepong Жыл бұрын
to be honest he looks like he's improving.
@kevinsommers0704
@kevinsommers0704 Жыл бұрын
Might be a blessing in disguise for Zach the way it happen this is a young guy and getting praise from Patrick, & having Aaron Rodgers mentoring you.....he could be a late bloomer just needed the right support system
@anysimon1635
@anysimon1635 Жыл бұрын
Istg, people we're saying Zach is a bust as far as Bryce young is in His career but for Bryce Its "theres Players Like payton manning that Bloom late" but for Zach they dont do that
@kevinsommers0704
@kevinsommers0704 Жыл бұрын
@@anysimon1635 very true
@richboyprado
@richboyprado Жыл бұрын
What’s concerning with Zach Wilson. You can say these past three weeks has been his best stretch of football, in the pros. And it’s no where near top 10 QB play. And if you’re not a top 10 QB in this league, you’re not winning the Super Bowl. Glad he’s not flat out losing games anymore. But Zach’s not the guy
@bondson0094
@bondson0094 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@Yeetly
@Yeetly Жыл бұрын
Not the guy the jets have been moving the ball more and driving down the field you Cleary haven't watched games
@JT-xn1qq
@JT-xn1qq Жыл бұрын
4 tds 5 int only 1 game over 200 yards this year doesn’t impress me. He’s not blowing the game which is an improvement but that’s about it.
@KPowers-ri5rp
@KPowers-ri5rp Жыл бұрын
He would of had 200 yards had Lazard not of taken that penalty when Wilson made his best play, possibly a touchdown after because they would of been in the red zone, luckily for him he’s got the giants and defenses that aren’t as good for awhile to hopefully build some confidence.
@JT-xn1qq
@JT-xn1qq Жыл бұрын
@@KPowers-ri5rp and if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Haven’t used that one in years lol. True about the giants. I’d love to see them dominate them .
@KPowers-ri5rp
@KPowers-ri5rp Жыл бұрын
@@JT-xn1qq that was a good one not gonna lie.
@JT-xn1qq
@JT-xn1qq Жыл бұрын
@@KPowers-ri5rp all in good fun buddy
@400brian
@400brian Жыл бұрын
Packer fan that has been watching the jets games this season. Question; what QB does their best work when they are running for their lives as soon as they take the snap? Rogers was running for his life on the 4 snaps he took. Are Jets fans so used to this they can't see it?
@bertgraves6385
@bertgraves6385 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see much difference between 72 and 69 passer rating. You act like it is a big difference when it is almost the same. Lawrence had way more interceptions. Lawrence’s stats don’t really show that he was better. It is just that his offensive threw the ball a lot more. When they went head to head Zach and the Jets won in part because Wilson had a 60 something yard touchdown run.
@terrellshows6602
@terrellshows6602 Жыл бұрын
Funny because nobody said anything about Peyton Manning first 4 years . He was worse than zach 🤣🤣. Zach haven’t even played 2 full seasons it’s way too early fam 😊
@franciscodiaz3892
@franciscodiaz3892 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Selective journalism is what I call it. People judge and opine. Nobody reports anymore.
@terrellshows6602
@terrellshows6602 Жыл бұрын
@@franciscodiaz3892 facts
@franciscodiaz3892
@franciscodiaz3892 Жыл бұрын
@terrellshows6602 I don't understand. It's not that difficult 2 b objective and fair. When I think about it. In depth. There's just no character or integrity with them 2day. They don't wanna report and analyze actual facts bc it might reveal it goes against their own narrative. It takes character 2 stand 2 b corrected. Evidently, they have none. Jmo
@terrellshows6602
@terrellshows6602 Жыл бұрын
@@franciscodiaz3892 Well said. I’m rooting for Zach. I believe he will silence the nay sayers. I do believe he’s reached his turning point!
@franciscodiaz3892
@franciscodiaz3892 Жыл бұрын
@terrellshows6602 Kool. Hopefully he'll continue 2 ascend. ✌️
@talanock
@talanock Жыл бұрын
he's a backup qb. the jets acknowledged this and admitted this by getting Rodgers to replace him and made him the backup.
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
No, he’s a developing QB, give him a fill 51 games, equivalent to 3 full seasons before prejudging what he is as a QB.
@talanock
@talanock Жыл бұрын
@@TheHighlanderprime he's had more than enough games to prove what he can do. all he can do is be an average backup at best. 3 years is a lot of time to give to someone who keeps proving that they don't have it. and the proof he doesn't have it is that the jets wanted and went to get someone else.
@patricklemire9278
@patricklemire9278 Жыл бұрын
He’s a great example of why rookies often sat a year or two back in the old days.
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
They still do.
@Windyyyyyyyyy
@Windyyyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
He's okay. This is a QB who is clearly still learning, but his improvements are there. its a bummer because I really wanted him to learn behind Aaron. Now he has to be the leader of men.
@Venom3254
@Venom3254 Жыл бұрын
He's improved from not forcing throws and getting picks from his he was before. Unfortunately he holds on to the ball a bit too long to get sacked (seems like he rather get sacked than throw the ball for a possible pick) and not to mention the O-Line that's terrible or injured that can't defend him (Mike White and Rodgers got injured due to that O-Line, btw)
@TheHighlanderprime
@TheHighlanderprime Жыл бұрын
Most of the time, he hasn’t held on to the ball … Also, outside of Garrett, who’s getting open? The team’s WRs just don’t get open most of the time; see the films.
@Venom3254
@Venom3254 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHighlanderprime I missed that part about only Garrett being open. Doesn't help that Lazard made that bone headed play that almost costed the Jets
@Yeetly
@Yeetly Жыл бұрын
​@@Venom3254it did cost us we were inbredsone at the 7 and we got back up 20
@Venom3254
@Venom3254 Жыл бұрын
@@Yeetly They won at the end, so it wasn't costly.
@surfnj19
@surfnj19 Жыл бұрын
I believe if he had this mentoring/coaching from the day he got drafted he would be a way different player. Time will tell, rooting for the kid
@noelv1976
@noelv1976 Жыл бұрын
Seems like he’s regressed a little since the KC game.
@Nc18554
@Nc18554 Жыл бұрын
He also has Nathaniel hackett as a coordinator. He literally was brought in for rodgers. His style does not match wilsons abilities. He needs a guy like steichen or shannahan type.
@MikeyB540
@MikeyB540 Жыл бұрын
He played well in the Kansas City game because he was either interested in Taylor Swift or Travis Kelce’s mom
@zachwilsonsburner
@zachwilsonsburner Жыл бұрын
7:26 that’s so facts my mood depends on that every sunday
@pastramiking6874
@pastramiking6874 Жыл бұрын
He's gone from hot garbage to lukewarm refuse. 📈
@danjohnson8556
@danjohnson8556 Жыл бұрын
No. He played better against the best team in the league (Eagles) than Josh Allen did against the worst team in the league (Giants). Jets fans just aren't patient enough.
@Venom3254
@Venom3254 Жыл бұрын
"Jets fans aren't patient enough" We've been patiently waiting for a QB since 1968.
@wzac1234
@wzac1234 Жыл бұрын
Yea he’s been “improving” but he’s pretty much going from the 32nd best qb by a long shot to only barely the worst qb in the league. He still sucks and the team wins despite him
@StarkRavingSports
@StarkRavingSports Жыл бұрын
first
@nedmerrill5705
@nedmerrill5705 Жыл бұрын
Light is dawning over Marblehead. Keep up the good work, Zach! Zach's improvement is why Rodgers wants to get back to playing NOW. Playing is better for Zach's improvement than backing up for Rodgers (although perhaps not as good for the Jets prospects this year).
@jessejordache1869
@jessejordache1869 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about that -- last year, I think arguably his best game was his first, against the Steelers. After that, his trajectory was overall downwards. The cumulative effect of constant pressure often makes QB play deteriorate -- it's the reason you often understudy QBs in the first place: if you throw Aaron Rodgers onto the field in his first year, you probably never get his SB level play for most of his career after his third year.
@lilheist
@lilheist Жыл бұрын
Zach Wilson has undoubtedly become more confident and mature this season than he did in 2022 pulling out some more improbable wins that he probably shouldn’t have gotten, but he alongside the entire jets team needs to learn how to show up in the first quarter and then this jets team without Rodgers will start to win more games than losing.
@tylerd1297
@tylerd1297 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I always thought Rodgers was a d-bag. But the way he stood up for Zach was pretty awesome to see. I think if nothing else, it helped ZW not get down from being singled out.
@everythingbuzzcityEBC
@everythingbuzzcityEBC Жыл бұрын
They are now 3-3 after beating the Eagles.
@boozyyt8070
@boozyyt8070 Жыл бұрын
It seems like the coaching staff took one training wheel off before the chiefs game and left it like that up to this current point. Zach has been able to handle the broader offense but it still seems like he is being held back by the system ex not throwing the ball down the feild. I believe with this by week they are going to implement the rest of the offense and fully give him the keys we will see how it pans out
@horsemeattball
@horsemeattball Жыл бұрын
I guess we can all agree now that college stats don't amount to a hill of beans. Especially if you play at BYU. Yes, I know Steve Young went there and had a HOF career. But there is always an exception to the rule.
@jimc.goodfellas
@jimc.goodfellas Жыл бұрын
Prognosis incomplete. Check back in like 5-6 weeks
@quickjab33
@quickjab33 Жыл бұрын
He is horrible no matter how much he has "improved". The only reason the Jets have won ANY games is because the defense is very good and Wilson has made some insane catches. I have no idea why the Jets continue to play him.
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