Starlink Speedtest on a Sailboat in Motion

Starlink Speedtest on a Sailboat in Motion

[@viking8889]

Good to know this. I am currently a fulltime RVer with a StarLink but looking to move onto a sailboat and live half the year onboard.

[@frankportelli2892]

oh boy- this changes things -in ways we have yet to think of!

[@jck7986]

Yeah, you need to be on a sailboat to get some performance.

[@tmastersat]

Dont try it its illegal.

[@realswagmediagroup]

@@tmastersat I don't think so?

[@deepeddysf]

A welcome milestone in the advancement of offshore data connectivity. Exciting test and subscribing for more. Thank you.

[@librab103]

This is not a milestone. This is what happens when you are the only user in the area using the bandwidth. Satellite internet is like cable internet. When nobody is using it, the bandwidth is high but when the whole neighborhood is on it, the bandwidth is crap. So yes for now this is great for the price but down the road it is going to be no better than the speeds you get with DSL/cable while you are still paying $100 plus.

[@ike1660]

@@librab103 You're right but not quite. First of all, there's not that many other people out on the water, and sharing this bandwith with 10 or 20 others is perfectly fine; not everyone is using full speed at the same time. And more importantly, the latency. Ping for regular satellite internet is at least 800ms, sometimes much more. Starlink is shown to have 30-ish ms of ping, which is a gamechanger. It's the difference between 'click wait wait wait ah there's my page' and the regular internet expierence you're used to using on land.

[@cruiseryev]

@@librab103 I think youre missing the point. It's a milestone for boaters. Getting internet whilst on the water has always been a problem. Not to mention these speeds. And congestion won't be an issue whilst out sailing. So far we just rely on 4g which is seriously limited. There's no cable or dsl out there I can assure you.

[@PanceriMarco]

Not exactly offshore... Sure he can get 4g at this distance too... What to see it in the middle of the Atlantic

[@librab103]

@@PanceriMarco not going to get any service because there is no starlink satellite coverage in the middle of the ocean and might never be.

[@danratsnapnames]

0:37 damn he gets better speed that i'm getting at home!!

[@Cookie-kf3xn]

Very nice. Let`s hope they will offer a seaworthy antenna package soon.

[@r050460]

I've been waiting for this for a long time. where did you stay and how reliably does it work in the long run. do you already have experience with stronger waves?

[@JonJoshJakeClag]

Thanks for sharing, many people are now likely more interested in trying same 👍 Safe passage.

[@kirkyorg7654]

same speed as my home internet lol that's pretty cool ! this will be a game changer for sailing channels and anyone who lives a life of a nomad

[@joeprimal2044]

Awesome! That’s a major safety device in addition to the convenience.

[@howard6433]

...until you sail more than 10 miles from shore. then it is programmed to shut off.

[@joeprimal2044]

@@howard6433 really? That’s crazy.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@howard6433 That doesn't make sense at all (unless there's a cost problem with satellite coverage to be extended throughout all ocean longitudes/latitudes) . Are you sure that's the case?

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

@@C_R_O_M________ Howard is wrong ! The starlink covers or eventually cover the entire planet ! Musk wants 2billion subscribers at $20 per month = $40 billion per month x 12 = $480 billion per yr.! It doesn't cost starlink any more to send a signal in the middle of the Pacific or in the center of the USA! 2 trillion dollars profit in 5 years ! Musk is a genius!

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@zzzxxzzz3248 2 billion subscribers won’t come easy or soon. All other companies won’t just sit on their behinds to watch Musk take their piece of the pie away from them. He’d be lucky if he got 200 million to begin and sustain the business. Satellite linkage has its pros and cons. It’s weather dependent whereas fiber optics aren’t. It’s a great option to have in the palette of available options, nevertheless.

[@sparkeyjones6261]

This will be a game changer for those of us who want to cruise offshore, but need consistent broadband access for work.

[@vincentbarkley9121]

Excellent. Thank you

[@NTechVideos]

Thanks!

[@CaptainK007]

A heeled and bouncy speed test would be interesting

[@davidb3491]

NICE! I can now offer this as a service to my customers 👍

[@jons_vlog3]

Where did you do this test if you don’t mind me asking? I think it’s awesome that we will be able to use the Internet out at sea eventually with Starlink

[@stephenmcelwee3129]

When you installed the antenna on the post did you put any type of dampening device between the antenna and the boat to provide protection from severe up and down movement due to wave action?

[@NervusEnergy]

You're obviously not going to dampen wave action without a huge armature. But dampening engine vibration might be a good idea for long term durability.

[@stevefink6000]

its a phased array antenna, so it likely does not need to be dampened. It doesnt work like a parabolic satelite dish entirely.

[@la7dfa]

@@stevefink6000 Still very impressive that the electronic beamforming are able to track the satellite in waves.

[@bellenvideo5629]

Very satisfying 👍

[@jimshreve83]

I think what would be more effective rather just a speed test but watching videos on KZbin from your channel while recording the test on your phone then uploading that video to KZbin then watching it while watching Netflix and chilling on a sailboat while making a VOIP call to read an email that was sent to you by the person the other end of the call.

[@jonphillips1638]

Thks for posting. ( Sorry off topic but what kind of Sailboat is it ? Like the cabin !! ) Center cabin is nice.

[@NTechVideos]

Thanks - Its a Lancer 39

[@nickjunes]

That's remarkable.

[@kevinsvmissjibsea6617]

How are course adjustments and tracking while underway?

[@norrispalmer3250]

How do you get them to allow the change in zip codes

[@prillewitz]

That is crazy fast!

[@carsonc1272]

That changes weather updates just a little bit.

[@carsonbeasley8183]

Someone has finally done it!

[@markwiebner7806]

Thanks for sharing. I am very interested in Starlink. How far offshore were you? (I think that I see land in the background) What does the subscription cost? Is the Starlink speed consistent say 100 miles offshore? Sorry for all the questions. I would love to be connected when we are fishing offshore for weather and communication. I have yet to find solid information.

[@MihneaStoian]

why would distance to shore matter? Starlink is satellite based.

[@Adam80mb]

@@MihneaStoian Although starlink is satellite based, the satellites have a limited range and need to be connected to a base station. When starlink satellites are able to communicate to each other in the future, they will then be able to cover large distances like over the ocean without needing a base station nearby. (At least I think they are not able to communicate to each other yet). If the boat is in rough waters, do not expect to get a good signal or one at all. The small things that move inside to keep pointed at a satellite have a limited range. Not sure what the limit is. The subscription cost is $110 USD and it is $600 to start, but the waiting list is long.

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

@@Adam80mb the beauty of starlink is they don't need a land base and they do talk to each other and have an active object avoidance system so any rockets flying through the grid won't hit the satellites! They also adjust their altitude to stay in orbit longer than current satellites! They fly lower which makes the signal fast and strong ! Musk is a genius! When complete there will be 42,000 satellites in the grid ! Boats will use a gimbal mount to reduce dish movement !

[@Kiwi17714]

@@zzzxxzzz3248 that's unfortunately incorrect. Starlink currently only works about 10 miles offshore. They require ground stations to bounce the signal to, and because the orbit is so low, it's limited in range.

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

@@Kiwi17714 that's not what Elon said !

[@TaylanYalniz]

Would like to learn more about your Mount. I used a rod holder for mine. But need something sturdier

[@NTechVideos]

Sure... the mount is described in detail under the 'description' of this 2nd test clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZPPfaJrqcSWms0

[@andrewgreathead8003]

Whereabouts were you sailing when you made this video?

[@iamsomebody7700]

Have you used it in any type of swell? Im curious is the up and down with a tilt will affect the connection.

[@NTechVideos]

Yes, it works quite well even in swell - see second video which has more waves

[@tonylouvat5337]

It's a phased-array ant. and assuming it had connectivity it would be fine with any vertical movement.

[@JunoSolarWinds]

@@tonylouvat5337 The vertical movement shouldn't matter, true. But only on boats and mainly monohulls you get a lot of tilt, front to back, side to side, by up to 30 deg in high swells so I guess maybe that would be an issue. If it was on the roof of your house and after it locked on you got up there and started tilting the dish 30 deg forward back, side to side would it loose lock?! I'm working on a catamaran now in preparation to live on and travel round the world and am really looking forward to Starlink. Definitely a gamechanger for middle of the ocean weather updates so hopefully it ends up as awesome as it looks

[@solandri69]

@@JunoSolarWinds Just to reiterate what Tony Louvat said. It's a phased array antenna. It's "aimed" using software - it does not have to physically move, but is instead "pointed" using just math. It can be "pointed" in a different direction almost instantaneously, or even after the fact if you've got enough RAM. The military uses them to track dozens or even hundreds of targets simultaneously (a single antenna can "point" at all those targets at once). If you look at pics of the Ticonderoga class cruisers, the octagonal plates you see on the front and sides are the phased array antennas. Because it's aimed in software, what really matters is how much processing power you have. More processing power = more simultaneous targets which can be tracked, or how quickly it can search around an expected position to find a target it's lost track of. If it's coupled with a good set of gyros that greatly reduce the error in the tracking, dealing with swells should be almost trivial. As an amateur astronomer, it kills me that Starlink is messing up astronomy. But it is such a game-changer that I think the loss to astronomy will be worth the gain to global communications (directional communications via phased array also means you bypass the Shannon limit for max bandwidth of a shared communication channel).

[@JunoSolarWinds]

@@solandri69 Oh cool, I didn't know that was what phased array means. Thank you for that, hopefully once they're settled into their orbits they don't mess up your observations too much. If it wasn't for the swells I bet you'd love the middle of the ocean. On moonless nights the sky looks dense out there

[@chrisriehl1696]

Hey. How is this working with your solar? Currently building a few lodges and about to switch off the genny finally. Do you know what the %age of your banks get eaten?

[@stevepotts4273]

Well done

[@JKenWelch]

ya gotta love it...

[@kealahau6727]

pretty cool...how much does it cost ?

[@bknesheim]

Do the sail disrupt communication?

[@rme0108]

but you are in us costal waters, and since a few weeks roaming=true, so nothing strange there, but what if you sail down to the carribean? or cross the atlantik? will it still work?

[@NTechVideos]

So far have confirmed it works up to 10 miles offshore in the Pacific. Might work further but haven't confirmed that yet

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

It will work crossing any ocean, I’d say in heavy seas it would be more difficult …

[@Robinlarsson83]

@@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench both yes and no, at the moment. The satellites will of course work out on the ocean (if there are no geo restrictions anymore), but when you are far enough from land in won't work. At some point the satellite you are connected to can't also connect to a groundstation that connects it to the internet. The latest generation of Starlink satellites will solve this problem by having laser links between each satellite, so a signal can bounce between a number of satellites until it reaches one that is connected to the internet. But, SpaceX haven't launched very many V1,5 sats yet, and it'll probably be a little while until the laser links are fully operational. And there will still be hundreds of V1 sats up there, so not sure if they'll deorbit them or just let them run until the end of their planned life (only like 5 years or so).

[@CrumResearch]

@@Robinlarsson83 yes, and sats with laser cross-links are being launched like crazy now!

[@Robinlarsson83]

@@CrumResearch yeah, they really are, watched 2 Starlink launch livestreams 22 hours apart the other day :) I think that the V1.5 sats with the lasers are probably already in the majority, but a lot of them are probably still not on final orbit. They should start using the lasers soon, I assume Elon will let us know on Twitter :)p

[@MatteoPetrani]

How much power does it drain?

[@la7dfa]

The flat dish drains 30-70W depending on bandwith used. The transmitter uses quite a lot of power when transfering data up.

[@thomaswood3629]

How did you order and setup this unit with no geolock?

[@NTechVideos]

It had geolock when it arrived, but later got "roaming=true"

[@norrispalmer3250]

@@NTechVideos how

[@yoshy2628]

@@norrispalmer3250 for mobility service will be an extra fee and be carefull, once you lost your homebase spot will be impossible to get it back untill another dish becomes mobile. Check this one, or just search for Starlink mobile - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nX3PqaaXfbSFbqM

[@michiganengineer8621]

@@norrispalmer3250 You can thank President Zelensky for removing geo-fencing.

[@glutenfreegam3r177]

Faster than my landline connection!

[@RuSSSat]

congratz you with new one

[@NTechVideos]

Thanks!

[@therealrobbycrash]

I hope the price a month will reduce to 50 bucks or so then i will take it.....starlink is da future for us boaters 👌🏽😍

[@la7dfa]

Starlink maritime cost 5000$ a month for now.

[@TacGames3]

hey, would love to know everything you did, mounting, roaming, mobile etc. I know that starlink is allowing roaming and will work while moving due to the use in Ukraine. Where you located and how do you think this will work in a remote area like Caribbean.

[@tailarson5515]

Did you have to enable roaming?

[@evananderson1455]

Idk this guy's exact setup, but as far as "will it work in remote areas"...that is literally the entire reason Starlink exists, is because it works in even the most remote areas because it is satellite based, so I imagine it would do well in the Caribbean unless they simply don't have enough satellites up to service the area yet.

[@tailarson5515]

@@evananderson1455 Starlink was originally not allowing roaming. Originally it was geo-locked.

[@evananderson1455]

@@tailarson5515 Correct, originally being the key word. Nearly 2,000 Starlink satellites have been deployed to date with the goal being global coverage capable of roaming, so it might be prudent to keep up with current abilities instead of what it was originally capable of.. That said.... A 2 second google search shows that Puerto Rico is set to receive coverage this year and since the coverage is increasing from north to south it is probably safe to assume that nowhere south of that has coverage yet and everywhere north of Puerto Rico will have coverage by the years end, assuming Starlink launches continue. I would also guess that the Bahamas are already far enough north/close enough to America that coverage should be available, even if only while stationary for now. Another Google search would confirm if that's true or not.

[@tailarson5515]

@@evananderson1455 I think you may have misunderstood my question. I was asking about the roaming settings. I'm familiar with their coverage. I think you were confusing me with someone else who was asking about coverage. My understanding is that roaming isn't available to all users yet. I was wondering if he was in roaming mode.

[@EggchaserNZ]

What would the cost be 1. Initial setup costs for sat and equipment and 2. Ongoing monthly costs? Is it $1500/month?

[@guycocoa211]

$110/month for stationary connectivity, $25 extra/month for portability.

[@Escapetosea]

Wow info would be amazing

[@NTechVideos]

More info under the description of this 2nd test clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZPPfaJrqcSWms0

[@shnorman1]

Wow!

[@herciliotenoriodebarrosfil3468]

What boat is this?

[@thisbloke]

I wonder how long it will take for the salt to start causing issues

[@RandomGaijin]

When did they unlock georestrictions?

[@KestutisJanuskevicius]

Can anyone confirm that roaming is enabled right for new subscribers on day 1, without any additional requests, fees or configuration?

[@sweetagony666]

what region are you sailing at?

[@pdeichert]

Wow that’s fast

[@vinniem.6822]

Nice, how much latency are you seeing?

[@la7dfa]

The screen says 31ms

[@pauljamieson803]

Monthly Charge??

[@dekerus3]

About where are you located? Like what region?

[@tomatobrush3283]

Damn! game changer

[@floorschade]

Hi, how would it work if you are traveling the world? Do you need to subscribe on a specific address? will you be able to have a connection everywhere you go?

[@oljobo]

Close to shore seemingly… so.. inside reach of an existing ground station?

[@CRASS2047]

Wow. That’s almost as fast as my internet at home.

[@tsuitsui3793]

gamechanger

[@alexmaccity]

The Grey matter in my brain is being lost just looking at this.

[@DARTHDANSAN]

Interesting

[@FollowTheJohn]

Upload speeds are too low for me. I wonder if they are throttling it.

[@nealrcn]

Only one thing to say WOW

[@rustie4242]

That's a lot faster than I have at home.....

[@michaelsaul269]

Interested to know how far off the costs you got?

[@NTechVideos]

So far I've logged data confirming it works 10 miles off the coast.

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

It won’t matter how far off the coast you are 🤓

[@michaelsaul269]

@@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench why

[@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench]

@@michaelsaul269 because it works via satellite, doesn't matter where you are :-)

[@michaelsaul269]

@@TheGeordietheWitchandtheWench starlink doesn't work in all countries yet. so as soon as you leave the area if that country you would theoretically loose signal. At the moment starlink only works is USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, some parts of South America and most of Europe. Starlinks plan is to have it work everywhere but that is a work in progress.

[@wilhallman2890]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[@willweaver5024]

Looks like slow upload speed is still a problem. I wonder why.

[@Sailing-alma]

I used is Since six month And it is super

[@ihmesekoilua]

Man, that ping would kill my Apex game.

[@jeffissimo1221]

Sooooo better than Comtrash. That's all you need to say.

[@stevefink6000]

GMDSS and sat phones just became obsolete!

[@antoinejouaville]

Funny to see those numbers while hearing low quality (simple) radio call

[@NTechVideos]

;-)

[@joerob00]

Does this work in the middle of the Atlantic?

[@warbon8853]

No

[@warbon8853]

He said it works up to 10 miles out in the pacific. It will be some time before we get this for the middle of the ocean

[@raha1277]

Cool but still near land, I wonder how it is way off the coast

[@Kiwi17714]

It currently only works 10 miles offshore.

[@redlack1476]

That’s better than my internet through Att. Awesome. But so very annoying.

[@GypsyTinker2012]

Just a note... it's against the TOS and FCC regs to use this device on a moving vehicle at the moment. As a remote working and live aboard, I can't wait until it's not, but you might want to consider removing this evidence. Thank you for posting it though! Is awesome. I'm pretty sure that they aren't enforcing this as long as you don't draw too much attention to yourself.

[@jackmehoffer1037]

What r u the space X Police. Shit they can’t even put armed robbers in Prison with these progressive Democrats. FJB

[@stanleybest8833]

If power didn't have to be double converted, sailboat Starlink would run leaner.

[@NTechVideos]

Yes it would save some energy not to go from 12v DC to AC and back. But its low enough already, about 40watts

[@stanleybest8833]

@@NTechVideos That's not low.

[@grottu]

sailboat is where starlink shines, on RV it sucks big time, it can not handle trees at all and shade of greens is where u desire to park ur RV....

[@captainrosie6738]

This is the video we have been waiting for. In a few short years we plan to move abroad our trawler and start traveling the country. We will still be working and this will hopefully make the move seamless.

[@_pic_7571]

Wow, a lot of companies just went broke.

[@yoshy2628]

not quite, signal is lost after 15 miles offcoast.

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

Awesome! With this you no need traditional instruments onboard, just a computer.

[@theSato]

probably still best to have some traditional instruments at least as a backup -- there are occasionally little outages with Starlink, and generally you never know what might happen out at sea.

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

@@theSato I know some boats that are using only an iPad as instruments, they use the mobile phone Internet connection and software like Navionics to navigate in the mobile coverage area that is huge in the Chilean coast.

[@ig7567]

@@JosePedroEspinosa Your scenario is accounting for 'el merluzo' not expropriating Starlink property & service on behalf of la 'disnidaadh'. Tough call.

[@TOMVUTHEPIMP]

@@JosePedroEspinosa You cant get mobile internet connetion on the ocean.

[@JosePedroEspinosa]

@@TOMVUTHEPIMP Yes, but not this speed.

[@tmastersat]

Just to let you know. Dish network has noticed your video and filed fcc complaints demanding starlink shut you down. Starlink has replied stating everyone was told in the tos not to do this. The fcc will soon act on this illegal use.

[@ahbushnell1]

I wonder how that will handle the saltwater world.

[@StephenPeterHart]

This is really sad. Those times we have spent isolated in the middle of the Pacific have been some of the best of my life. To think the hand of humanity now plugs everyone in on the face of the planet no matter how remote at instagramable speeds makes me sad for our connection to everything which is not online or celebrated by social media. The irony of commenting on a you tube channel is not lost in me ;)

[@la7dfa]

We still can do that, but now you get options. I just want to get rid of all the "influencers", so we can be less shallow.

[@Weazle099]

FYI if your on a boat, and can see land...? yes I know what Starlink is... but In my eyes and knowing how simple cell- tech works. You may as well be sitting on a hill with a tower 3 miles away on the other hill. But that's just my.

[@fsicakyuz]

Try to clean your display once a year. You will feel the difference...

[@NTechVideos]

Once every leap year should do, no?

[@fsicakyuz]

@@NTechVideos Every "30 February" is good. (:

[@alexovnz]

If you're going to use it close to shore in parts of the world that are covered, it sounds good!

[@arthurme1911]

No thank you don’t want starlink it would cost me 146 plus tax in Canada a month and over $900 to buy the system not worth it

[@librab103]

especially if the price doesn't change while the speeds decrease as more users are added to the network.

[@tvguide4khv]

this movie was staged very well ))) but may be Dish needs a better place ?-- salt water too close ((

[@glenlynch1]

To even post a video of speed test reveals. And fail to NOT comment on location, nor even the actual speed test results.... kind'a baffling???

[@licencetoswill]

you can see the speed test results and the gps location in the video

[@tonylouvat5337]

ummmm....It shows the speed as well as coordinates? You are the only one baffled.

[@isailwind3471]

I hope you don't have a boat, lol.

[@itsverygreen532]

Looks fake to me. They might have got it to work at anchor or moving in a straight line, not convinced they ever got it to work while truly in motion, bit of swell or changes in direction.

[@rocknh68]

It doesn't have to be pointed and "locked on" as prescise as a TV satellite like Direct or Dish. It's more like a GPS or emergency sos messenger like zoleo or inreach.

[@wilhallman2890]

It's legit bro

[@davedavids9619]

This can be legit, the biggest problem however is the constant activity of the antenna, using up precious battery power and ............crossing state or country borders. That is the question I am interested in. From what I have seen you cannot take it out of your state or to a different country and that is exactly what we do while we are out on the water.

[@NTechVideos]

Its legitimate. See next video (Test 2) for even rougher motion under sail, heeled over. Starlink dish remains stationary most of the time and only occasionally adjusting to face north when there is a sustained course change that persists for a long while.

[@tonylouvat5337]

It's a phased array antennae...swell or changes in direction won't matter assuming you have visibility.