Starmer Cancels Rwanda Scheme Calling It "Dead And Buried"!

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Maximilien Robespierre

Maximilien Robespierre

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In news that will no doubt upset Suella Braverman, the new Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has told reporters in his first press conference that he has cancelled the Rwanda scheme. He called it a gimmick that isn't a deterrent.
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@KlownFPV
@KlownFPV 3 ай бұрын
The tories were calling it a deterrent. I think he's simply calling out their BS. Nothing more
@aliservan7188
@aliservan7188 3 ай бұрын
I think he's also talking to Reform and Tory voters to mollify them
@Notalloldpeople
@Notalloldpeople 3 ай бұрын
That’s my take too. Max doesn’t miss a chance to have a go at Starmer..
@mup_pet
@mup_pet 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly how I heard it as well. I found his speech, along with a sense of hope, impressive, to say the least.
@lordsam808
@lordsam808 3 ай бұрын
I agree, he wasn't saying his government would support a deterrent strategy, just that the rwanda plan failed at even accomplishing that
@stevenptew
@stevenptew 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree absolutely - I like Max but sometimes his reasoning is a little strained.
@philipernstzen7702
@philipernstzen7702 3 ай бұрын
The Tories called it a deterrent! That is the point he was making. It is not.
@richardc513
@richardc513 3 ай бұрын
I think the point he was making is that the Tories said it would be a deterrent, but the opposite is true. I don't think he was implying that he is looking for a deterrent. In fairness, he wasn't asked.
@grateberk6435
@grateberk6435 3 ай бұрын
Im hopeful, and today he has appointed some people that will know something about their job
@paulnorton9714
@paulnorton9714 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you on this answer.
@paulbaker9879
@paulbaker9879 3 ай бұрын
I would tend to agree with you, up to the point he continues to use the phrase illegal immigration.
@rsh793
@rsh793 3 ай бұрын
​@@paulbaker9879yeah for a lawyer he either used some very sloppy language or he meant it - I await to see which it is but neither is particularly useful given the way the voting actually went ...
@RobertGannon-x4u
@RobertGannon-x4u 3 ай бұрын
But if you combine what he is saying, with Yvette Cooper's recent comments, you might be more sceptical. All she constantly went on about was the gangs this, the gangs that, deterrence here, deterrence there. Nothing about re-establishing safe and legal routes. This indicates to me that their policy, while not being as extreme and racist as the tories, it will be a milder form of the immoral approach of the tories
@michaelc3051
@michaelc3051 3 ай бұрын
A disgusting policy abolished on day one represents progress already. I do agree that the UK must now establish safe routes which will allow those seeking asylum to make their claim without risking their lives on a raft. The cruelty needs to be removed from the asylum system. Seeking refuge is not a crime.
@SandraOke-sw2bf
@SandraOke-sw2bf 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree, the cruelty of the Tory party new no limits . Like everything in life there are ways of dealing with things that don’t stir up hate and persecution
@malcolm8564
@malcolm8564 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelc3051 the safe routes already exist. The boat and truck people are not from those areas.
@edwardvickers5506
@edwardvickers5506 3 ай бұрын
Refuge from where France ?
@michaelc3051
@michaelc3051 3 ай бұрын
@@malcolm8564 Where do the safe routes exist already?
@malcolm8564
@malcolm8564 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelc3051 Afghanistan, Ukraine, Hing Kong.
@connclissmann6514
@connclissmann6514 3 ай бұрын
Might you be overanalysing every word? Let's give Labour some breathing time. Starmer was a lawyer in this very space so I'm going to count to 10.
@Towertrips
@Towertrips 3 ай бұрын
He was a lawyer and and he worked with banned group Hizbut Al Tahrir
@anllpp
@anllpp 3 ай бұрын
😔 sigh lol​@@Towertrips
@connclissmann6514
@connclissmann6514 3 ай бұрын
@@Towertrips Everyone is entitled to legal representation in court. Or do you disagree?
@Towertrips
@Towertrips 3 ай бұрын
@@connclissmann6514 well there are plenty of bent Asian lawyers who could have advised them ? You know the ones who tell illegal immigrants what to say to qualify for asylum. Islamic criminals should help each other, Starmer should have used more discretion
@RobinHarris-nf4yv
@RobinHarris-nf4yv 3 ай бұрын
@@Towertrips cab rank rules
@willtricks9432
@willtricks9432 3 ай бұрын
You cannot blame Starmer for using the words the Tories used to describe the Rwanda Scheme, He was quoting Sunak talking about the scheme as a deterent. That it has been canceled as promised it good, there should be an inquiry to address who should be held accountable for the heavy costs.
@PeterGreen-t8c
@PeterGreen-t8c 3 ай бұрын
Well it certainly acted as a deterrent to making people want to vote Sunak into Downing Street given he just took on the post without anyone's say so
@stevep7950
@stevep7950 3 ай бұрын
I watched this press conference in full and found it a breath of fresh air to hear intelligent competent thoughtful answers instead of the usual slogans and repeated promises. I was very impressed with Starmer's performance. He has clearly been preparing these details for a long time and put in some considerable work already.
@georgecrothers5618
@georgecrothers5618 3 ай бұрын
Talk to the French. Build the processing centre that THEY suggested several years ago as a joint scheme. This should help stop a lot of those small boats.
@Misaki.Manifestation
@Misaki.Manifestation 3 ай бұрын
He knows that but will he do that, probably not.
@cookiemonster-uv6vs
@cookiemonster-uv6vs 3 ай бұрын
​@@Misaki.Manifestationyou will never stop boats asylum seekers under international law have a right to come here they are not illegal immigrants only crossing illegally so make it legal for them to purchase tickets for the going rate of tens of pounds instead of them paying criminal gangs thousands for a crappy dangerous boat crossing
@Red-lg9hv
@Red-lg9hv 3 ай бұрын
Build it in France you mean. Sure they accept a flat payment without trying to hitch the fee every other year...oh wait I'm sorry they're french.
@Anonyomus_commenter
@Anonyomus_commenter 3 ай бұрын
They won’t do it anymore with the far right basically rendering parliament useless
@Red-lg9hv
@Red-lg9hv 3 ай бұрын
They don't have an automatic right to come here.. they're looking for Asylum... It verges on whether they are accepted or not.
@67Parsifal
@67Parsifal 3 ай бұрын
Am I alone in thinking that illegal immigration is not really an issue? It’s been inflated by the previous government in an attempt to make it a ‘hot issue’ - but are you bothered by it, as you’re rightfully bothered by a crumbling NHS or a lack of teachers? I’m not. The Rwanda scheme was an obscene waste of money.
@mrd64
@mrd64 3 ай бұрын
I agree, but I don't live in a poor area where there are lots of asylum seekers. I can understand the resentment in those places and sadly Braverman and Farage have exploited it. I just hope that Starmer is able to find a more positive way to deal with it.
@batcollins3714
@batcollins3714 3 ай бұрын
Stop calling it illegal immigration! Do you not understand international law. You lot closed down ALL of the safe routes therefore immigrants HAVE to reach these shores to apply. Use just a little bit of common sense before you make these wild statements. THEIR APPLICATION HAS TO BE REFUSED AND THEY HAVE TO REFUSE TO LEAVE BEFORE THEY BECOME ILLEGAL. Now do you understand?
@ThePlayerOfGames
@ThePlayerOfGames 3 ай бұрын
​@@mrd64here's a bright idea 1. Why is asylum processing privatised? 2. Why are we dumping asylum seekers in specific areas? 3. Why do we have deprived areas? Fixing these issues would fix the underlying conflicts, but you'll note that amongst naturalised Britons that there's more anti migrant rhetoric in areas *without* migrants than in areas with migrants
@MrNukedawhales
@MrNukedawhales 3 ай бұрын
that depends on your definition of "illegal immigration". the left defines it as being in the country without being allowed to be in the country. the right defines it as everyone who isnt "invited" - so asylum seekers are illegal migrants, in the eyes of the right. "real" illegal migrants" are not a "real issue", i agree. asylum seekers on the other hand are a real issue. the reason you dont understand that, is the tory government. germany took in 1 million syrians, the uk none. germany took in 1 million ukrainians, the uk none. germany took in 500 000 afghans, the uk none etc. ... the reason asylum seekers are not "really an issue" in the uk is, that the tories refused to take them in... but how many million asylum seekers do you reckon does it take to make it a "real issue" in the uk?
@MrNukedawhales
@MrNukedawhales 3 ай бұрын
hm.. my last post got autodeleted.. so ill try again: it depends on your definition of "illegal immigration". the right defines it as everyone who isnt "invited" - so asylum seekers are illegal. the left doesnt define asylum seekers as illegal. "real" illegal immigration isnt an issue in the uk, i agree - but asylum seekers are. the reason you dont see that, is the tory government. germany took in 1 million syrians, the uk none. germany took in 1 million ukrainians, the uk none. germany took in 500 000 afghans the uk none etcetc. how many million asylum seekers do you reckon does it take to make it a "real issue" in the uk?
@V4Now
@V4Now 3 ай бұрын
All that money, time and peoples lives wasted.
@michaelc3051
@michaelc3051 3 ай бұрын
The Tories didn’t care about any of that.
@localreviewking134
@localreviewking134 3 ай бұрын
Even Rwanda was not 100% on board with it. Yes the Tories wasted money, like it was going out of fashion.
@jasonpereira4024
@jasonpereira4024 3 ай бұрын
Just like Brexit
@Ryan-pz2wh
@Ryan-pz2wh 3 ай бұрын
It’s not money “wasted”. The Tories managed to get their kickbacks from all those contracts.
@chello70
@chello70 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to the conservatives!!!
@rosemarystewart7405
@rosemarystewart7405 3 ай бұрын
Anyway I'm so happy to hear the words Labour government and PM Keir Starmer!
@Piden-l4b
@Piden-l4b 3 ай бұрын
Sorry. We spent it all on the one refugee Sunak sent us. He had a good time here and is now back in Birmingham
@an9886
@an9886 3 ай бұрын
Already some competent leadership I see.
@RayD67
@RayD67 3 ай бұрын
HAha
@srp01983
@srp01983 3 ай бұрын
@@RayD67that’s an interesting, incisive comment, which makes it clear just how much thought and intelligence you put into your reply.
@TheTwosliceToaster
@TheTwosliceToaster 3 ай бұрын
@@RayD67 What's funny about it? Scrapping the Rwanda nonsense IS what any competent government should be doing. Do you disagree? Do you think they should keep that nonsense, and carry on giving loads of tax payers money to the Rwandan government whilst pointlessly trying to break international law?
@kevbrown2532
@kevbrown2532 3 ай бұрын
​@@RayD67hi Raplh, Hows Bart?
@marksuttonbiodynamicbreath2374
@marksuttonbiodynamicbreath2374 3 ай бұрын
not only that but an attorney general who isn't an mp, a science minister who is a top scientist and the chair of the prison reform trust as prisons minister. Experts doing expert things.
@mrd64
@mrd64 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how many millions the Tories were able to get to their Rwandan contacts before they went.
@michaelmouse4024
@michaelmouse4024 3 ай бұрын
Excellent news but it's a shame they couldn't have made just one special case for the deportation of Braverman
@MikeStock88
@MikeStock88 3 ай бұрын
Processing claims quickly is also a deterrent
@faithpearlgenied-a5517
@faithpearlgenied-a5517 3 ай бұрын
He's literally achieved something he said he'd do. That's more in 2 days than the tories could be arsed to do in 6 months 😂
@kevbrown2532
@kevbrown2532 3 ай бұрын
14 years!
@localreviewking134
@localreviewking134 3 ай бұрын
Correction 5 years! not 6 months.
@nickmannion3879
@nickmannion3879 3 ай бұрын
People say he is boring and has no humour....but doing this and announcing it after 6pm on a Friday is top top trolling!
@RichardFraser-y9t
@RichardFraser-y9t 3 ай бұрын
How much money was wasted with the Ruwanda nonsense? How many people could we have helped stay in their own countries if we helped them be more stable?
@bumblebeebat-te5xv
@bumblebeebat-te5xv 3 ай бұрын
More than £320m was spent on it by the Tory government.
@richardjames3022
@richardjames3022 3 ай бұрын
Should be claimed back from the Tory party and in particular Braverman, Patel etc
@joanormrod4893
@joanormrod4893 3 ай бұрын
It was Boris Johnsons bright idea so it had 'waste of time and money's written all over it.
@MagereHein
@MagereHein 3 ай бұрын
@@joanormrod4893 Do we know which of Sunak's friends made money from the plan?
@tomtheeagle1
@tomtheeagle1 3 ай бұрын
Because everyone really wants to stay in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan! How would you help them stay safely in hell holes we helped create?
@meilong2338
@meilong2338 3 ай бұрын
Now cancel Brexit
@_jpg
@_jpg 3 ай бұрын
A hooray for humanity 🎉
@V4Now
@V4Now 3 ай бұрын
Hurray for common sh!tting sense!!
@sarahbarrett1247
@sarahbarrett1247 3 ай бұрын
Well that’s taxpayers money saved. No wonder the Daily Mail will hate a Labour government 😂
@midlandgeordie
@midlandgeordie 3 ай бұрын
Mail gammons!
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 3 ай бұрын
as far as i know, the thing was already paid for. or part of it. what tax money are saved?
@sarahbarrett1247
@sarahbarrett1247 3 ай бұрын
@@ragael1024 well future taxpayers’ money will be saved. There won’t be any more sunk into this disastrous mess.
@chrisgregory3063
@chrisgregory3063 2 ай бұрын
@@ragael1024do you think it wouldn’t have cost even more for zero results it was 120 million and counting! And that didn’t include the cost time effort to process and send even one single person let alone the proposed thousands a year!
@jacksat2252
@jacksat2252 3 ай бұрын
Now, the first thing he should do is put a team of investigators together and investigate all those who became rich in the last 5years and try and get all the money or what is left of it and prosecute them. Use that money to help the people who suffered the most during this time, help the NHS The same for those who dumped and spoiled the rivers and waterways. Let them pay for it. There is so much money for the government to start and rebuild the country without using one taxpayer's penny. Start with Mone. Oh and don't forget the nondoms and the super-rich, let them pay the same percentage as the working class pay.
@lindacurrie8817
@lindacurrie8817 3 ай бұрын
Yes police investigation if huge financial economic discrepancies are found and the Tories do not provide a solid reason as to where the money has gone.
@pandemoniumgaming6344
@pandemoniumgaming6344 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, the best deterrent is opening up safe passage to refugees and stop painting them as something to fear and instead humans to help in horrible situation and who can also becoming contributing people of our society like many refugees have before.
@JeffDavies-i8q
@JeffDavies-i8q 3 ай бұрын
True and very well said- cheers!
@grahamgriffiths7405
@grahamgriffiths7405 3 ай бұрын
Contribute like the London acid attacker and the Bournemouth beach stabber, nice 🤔
@kindmulberry7196
@kindmulberry7196 3 ай бұрын
Omg actual competence!!! Fair play Starmer
@davidreid5599
@davidreid5599 3 ай бұрын
It is not a difficult issue. Spend the money earmarked for Rwanda on processing migrants, send them out to work or back to their country of origin depending on the outcome of their claim- get on with it and be seen to be making a difference. Deterrence does not work against the desperate, destitute or persecuted.
@evilgingerminiatures5820
@evilgingerminiatures5820 3 ай бұрын
Good, welcome start
@audreymcgready4329
@audreymcgready4329 3 ай бұрын
Max i think he mentioned deterrent because that's what the Tories said it would be. Starmer is making sure we stay in the ECHR and follow international law.
@chrisspencer6502
@chrisspencer6502 3 ай бұрын
He should have the government publish the cost
@mirrrie
@mirrrie 3 ай бұрын
I think he doesn't want half the country die of a heart attack
@johnjephcote7636
@johnjephcote7636 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what backhanders were taken from all that Rwanda money, bothe here and in Rwanda.
@srp01983
@srp01983 3 ай бұрын
@@johnjephcote7636 Loads, no doubt. For a start, all the housing that Braverman paid for will all now be owned by grifters in Rwanda who have no doubt learnt from the Tories.
@martywest6004
@martywest6004 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, he should drop breadcrumbs of such things over the next, say 10 years. The Troy's were still wafling on about that daft note left saying there was no money, 15 years later. Just drip snipits in a manner to continue to bring it to people's attention
@hsa1732
@hsa1732 3 ай бұрын
£370M so far, according to Oxford University Migration Observatory, with a lot more once up and running. We needed that spent on housing here.
@Eastlondon1973
@Eastlondon1973 3 ай бұрын
Sensible politics at long last . Hallelujah .
@drmodestoesq
@drmodestoesq 3 ай бұрын
Open borders is a sensible policy? Interesting take.
@NewEstablishment
@NewEstablishment 3 ай бұрын
@@drmodestoesqhow is this open borders they’ve scrapped a money wasting deal that was always doomed. Day 2 millions of pounds saved.
@lindacurrie8817
@lindacurrie8817 3 ай бұрын
​@@drmodestoesqStarmer will not have open borders. Stop listening to the far right Farage and his rants.
@TristanMeadows-s4m
@TristanMeadows-s4m 3 ай бұрын
That's funny because I noticed that too but I think he meant, 'the Tories thought it up as a deterrent, i,e, that was their excuse for it but it was never a deterrent.' In other words their excuse for doing it was wrong. I don't think he means that there should be a deterrent but that is what the Tories said it was. Anyway that's how I worked it out after my initial reaction
@tombloomfield4784
@tombloomfield4784 3 ай бұрын
He wasn't talking to you Max. He was talking to people who believed in it.
@Notalloldpeople
@Notalloldpeople 3 ай бұрын
He said it was never a deterrent- isn’t that explicitly just saying that the scheme didn’t do what the Tories claimed it would do? It didn’t deter gangs and it didn’t deter dangerous channel crossings. Only processing backed by safe routes will work.
@BIGGGESTAL
@BIGGGESTAL 3 ай бұрын
Why should we give illegal immigrants a safe passage? Are you mad
@RichardFirthGodbehere
@RichardFirthGodbehere 3 ай бұрын
I think he was saying "deterrent" simply because that was the big Tory claim.
@UniverseUndone7
@UniverseUndone7 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@gunner678
@gunner678 3 ай бұрын
Well done mr PM
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive 3 ай бұрын
As a Brit Pakistani, one thing that has always frustrated me about the 'immigration debate' (left and right) is how the 'immigration' issue is taken on face value and as an elision, it's never clear which, and is never properly disambiguated. We know immigration has always been a stand-in for the myriad of other issues. Brexit/Reform sentiment became a code for 'anti-immigrant' sentiment, but really it also includes recent + descendents of immigrants, and is largely a fear of 'foreign' cultures in England. There are indeed pockets of ghettoization esp in the mids/north, where there are acute problems of housing, public services, and yes also cultural in-cohesion. So let's confront and deal with all those issues on their own terms, inc. the cultural tensions.
@lindaj5492
@lindaj5492 3 ай бұрын
Yes! All of these issues need to be open for discussion - and especially with the active participation of those communities you mention. Their voices need to be heard and their cultures & religions explained to those whose ignorance is deliberately turned into fear by right wing politicians and media.
@DirtyJokesFan
@DirtyJokesFan 3 ай бұрын
Suella’s strop about this is not far off😂
@tomm487
@tomm487 3 ай бұрын
Cruella can go pound sand🤣
@mariannewarner9252
@mariannewarner9252 3 ай бұрын
Didn't the person in charge in Rwanda say they would be happy to give us the money back put that to the test and see what they say when they are backed into the corner
@MrNukedawhales
@MrNukedawhales 3 ай бұрын
not sure wether he said that or not, but they already spent the money.. on buildings to house the asylum seekers, for example. so they cant pay anything back, even if they wanted.
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr
@JamesBoslem-fh9gr 3 ай бұрын
Yes, spot on. Safe and legal routes (say at our Embassies) would mean only those who failed asylum check would get into small boats (which slashes the people smugglers business model), who could then be legally returned to France. Remember that it was Johnson’s “oven ready” Brexit deal that put us in this position
@murraymitchell22
@murraymitchell22 3 ай бұрын
Next, two child cap, bedroom tax, prescriptions charges, higher education charges. Tax hike for the wealthy, investment in the NHS. Loads more of course. I look forward to the changes.
@grahamgriffiths7405
@grahamgriffiths7405 3 ай бұрын
Definitely looking forward to paying for the 8 kids that the young lady down the road has had with 6 different lads, she earns more than me 😂
@Sirlarrythecat
@Sirlarrythecat 3 ай бұрын
Ol Max Headroom really needs to stop with the criminal gangs thing and take up France on their offer of processing centres there and employ loads of processing staff. Doing those things would eliminate the need for refugees to use criminal gangs if he really does want to target the so called criminal gangs the only criminal gang I know of has just left office.
@darrennandrewfitness2836
@darrennandrewfitness2836 3 ай бұрын
I think they will also look into that Starmer has a good relationship with France so let's see
@just-a-working-male
@just-a-working-male 3 ай бұрын
He's stop one gang of idiots at least
@andrewdrury958
@andrewdrury958 3 ай бұрын
If only Boris did this during the Brexit start
@charlielynes
@charlielynes 3 ай бұрын
May, Patel, and Braverman all turned it down. Leaving Europe was more important. I hope we can get a humane system, but I do not expect overnight changes.
@cookiemonster-uv6vs
@cookiemonster-uv6vs 3 ай бұрын
Or just open a legal safe route into the UK for asylum seekers they are going to come we literally called our coalition of countries "Great" Britain put great at the beginning of something its going to get a lot of attention
@mandycouchbean
@mandycouchbean 3 ай бұрын
Cruella in Meltdown ❤
@uksubversion
@uksubversion 3 ай бұрын
Good move.
@MONTY-YTNOM
@MONTY-YTNOM 3 ай бұрын
Its as if ppl thought ALL the immigrants would be put on one plane and taken there and dumped. Rwanda would only take 200 to start with
@illegitiminoncarborundum8202
@illegitiminoncarborundum8202 3 ай бұрын
@ MONTY-YTNOM : And they could sent back an unspecified number of their unwanted asylum seekers, so no overall reduction in immigration to the Uk !
@whataripoff999
@whataripoff999 3 ай бұрын
The Tory's said it was a deterrent. He is simply calling it out as not being a deterrent.
@One-Goth
@One-Goth 3 ай бұрын
I saw this, absolutely brilliant. I also noticed he said he had been talking to people for the past six months, regarding the Patrick Valance appointment. I knew he had been talking to people, I think we will see the same with Europe and Brexit.
@jackkruese4258
@jackkruese4258 3 ай бұрын
Hire a ton more officers in the processing centres, get them processed, get the vast majority who have no business being here, ie economic migrants, shipped and thrown out, one way tickets home. Job done.
@oohaahcantona6997
@oohaahcantona6997 3 ай бұрын
The gammon will be exploding over this 😂
@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g
@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g 3 ай бұрын
they are already frothing at the mouth.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 3 ай бұрын
Bacon fat all over Farage
@richardjakobek7477
@richardjakobek7477 3 ай бұрын
I hope so.
@alfsmith4936
@alfsmith4936 3 ай бұрын
Oh well.. Maybe they can afford a caravan in Clacton for a week, to get over it.
@stephendudman1422
@stephendudman1422 3 ай бұрын
Gammon tears.😢
@FishStickz93
@FishStickz93 3 ай бұрын
Very good start from Labour, Rwanda scheme was a huge waste of money and was never gonna work
@PeterGreen-t8c
@PeterGreen-t8c 3 ай бұрын
The numpties that "work" for GB 'News' are going spare over this. Good
@mandycouchbean
@mandycouchbean 3 ай бұрын
Create safe routes it's not rocket science!!
@Withnail1969
@Withnail1969 3 ай бұрын
We won't be doing that. We will just let them all in.
@RayD67
@RayD67 3 ай бұрын
Passports, planes, Airports, not a safe way?
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 3 ай бұрын
Because nobody would abuse that, right.
@threedoodles
@threedoodles 3 ай бұрын
I guess you think it's easy to grab your passport, book an air ticket, pack your suitcase etc whilst you're fleeing from some horror?
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 3 ай бұрын
@@threedoodlesFrance isn’t that bad. I live there. Neither is Spain or Italy or Greece or any of the EU countries I’ve been to.
@raythorpe-d6r
@raythorpe-d6r 2 ай бұрын
LABOUR made shore the RWANDA SCHEME FAILD ,THEN BLAMED THE TORIES.
@kieranholland3924
@kieranholland3924 3 ай бұрын
The best way to deter people from coming to the uk, is to give the a reason to stay in their own country’s. Also, when they do arrive, by whatever means, process them quickly, creating jobs here, and allowing these people to work in the uk, and contribute to the new society they are in. Plenty of jobs going in hospitality, NHS and farming. Good start Starmer. 🇪🇺🇮🇪 k
@MrNukedawhales
@MrNukedawhales 3 ай бұрын
oh... thats a great idea... but how do you give them a reason to stay in their own country? i dont disagree with you, but i see absolutely no chance to make that happen.
@ProsecutorZekrom
@ProsecutorZekrom 3 ай бұрын
@@MrNukedawhales Yeah, unfortunately we're a long way off world peace.
@jamesangus8504
@jamesangus8504 3 ай бұрын
The Rwanda scam was immoral. While I agree that the word “deterrent’ is completely inappropriate with respect to refugees, the problem is that a large part of the electorate are against any group, immigrants or refugees, who don’t look like them. Starmer and Labour must be very careful in their language.
@theotherandrew5540
@theotherandrew5540 3 ай бұрын
Employ enough staff to get the processing done quickly, provide processing centre in France (if the French agree to that), provide safe passage across the channel and allow these immigrants to contribute to our economy.
@markneath7555
@markneath7555 3 ай бұрын
First sane thing that the British government has done in fourteen years,
@RHH7288
@RHH7288 3 ай бұрын
Rwanda worked perfectly for a select few people making a buttload of cash from it.
@evelynwoolston7
@evelynwoolston7 3 ай бұрын
Hooray! Suella complained that it was wasting the millions that the Tories had spent on it. Like when you send £100 to a Nigerian conman and then you send £500 so that he can 'pay to ship your millions' and continue to pay because 'I've already wasted £600 on this
@StephenUren-qb6ff
@StephenUren-qb6ff 3 ай бұрын
Give him a chance to organise the processing in France as the French originally offered to Sunak but he refused!
@paulrice2864
@paulrice2864 3 ай бұрын
The issue is that a reasonable proportion of these individuals are not assulym seekers but economic migrants. Like people coming from Morocco, Albania, or Egypt. These need to be detered
@edwardvickers5506
@edwardvickers5506 3 ай бұрын
Completely ignored on here,many are criminals hiding their identity. Hide their faces when cameras on them.
@bengeorge894
@bengeorge894 2 ай бұрын
You seem to have a very basic shallow understanding of refugee law and refugee realities since you automatically declare someone invalid for asylum simply based on their nationality; You don’t get to say a certain country is not at war (thus appears generally safe), therefore its citizens are ALL economic migrants. Processing claims is done on an individual case basis. People run away for all sorts of reasons outside warzones; For example: Fear out of racial discrimination, ethnic violence, gang violence, police targeting, political repression, anti-gay laws, transphobia and killing of transgender people, governments that punish Atheists even with the death penalty, Terrorism, membership of a party or social group, honour killings, Climate Crisis refugees, and yes a part of them are poor and moving for better jobs. But please stop this idea of thinking only Afghans or Syrians qualify for protection. A country can be a lovely summer vacation destination for Europeans but its local citizens can face very serious dangers under dictatorship making them unsafe. We always say “Asylum is for people experiencing war and persecution” ➡️ these two categories are widely different. Do your research
@gjthomas9770
@gjthomas9770 3 ай бұрын
He doesn't have a choice but to say what he did . Make no mistake, the far right is rising. What a difficult position to be in
@andrewgrillet5835
@andrewgrillet5835 3 ай бұрын
I want to know which British and which Rwandan politicians stood to personally benefit from the scheme, and see the British ones (at least), if any, jailed for the scam. I am not saying it was corruption, but I cannot see any other credible explanation for the billions spent on such stupidness.
@carlosgomes2783
@carlosgomes2783 3 ай бұрын
Fopr God's sake! He's been PM for 24 hours and already people are picking holes - "Starmer has to deliver", "Starmer has to do this", "Starmer has to do that". Can we just take a pause in our gnat's-memory-span world and wait and see what happens?
@astrano80001
@astrano80001 3 ай бұрын
I have the ideal deterrent! Rwanda is £400m richer...for no reason at all. Yet, the terrifying threat of sending "illegal asylum seekers" to Clacton, at a fraction of the cost to the taxpayer, the people smugglers and the taxi drivers must be a dream come true!
@lindaj5492
@lindaj5492 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@peterw4338
@peterw4338 3 ай бұрын
I am sure that cash back payments were involved. It needs criminal investigation like PPE
@Walt_G
@Walt_G 3 ай бұрын
I assumed he was just using the same language that the Tories were using so that people know what he is on about. The Tories said it was a deterrent so he is just pointing out it didn't even do that, it doesn't mean he wants a deterrent.
@mandycouchbean
@mandycouchbean 3 ай бұрын
Good to see ! 👍
@donaldanderson6604
@donaldanderson6604 3 ай бұрын
If you talk to anyone who works with refugees they will tell you it is not a deterrent . These poor people have risked everything and are certainly not going to tell people who might have helped them pay for their passage that they were not willing to go the whole way. BTW I wonder how many doctors and nurses are amongst the refugees.
@jamesjennings9907
@jamesjennings9907 3 ай бұрын
Why do so many people conflate immigration with mass migration.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 3 ай бұрын
They are told it by the likes of Farage.,
@ProsecutorZekrom
@ProsecutorZekrom 3 ай бұрын
Hell, I've heard people call it an invasion
@grahamgriffiths7405
@grahamgriffiths7405 3 ай бұрын
Comments by people who live nowhere near the South coast 😂
@lindaj5492
@lindaj5492 3 ай бұрын
Scare-Mongering language used by Trump, Farage and other right wing.
@srp01983
@srp01983 3 ай бұрын
Great move - an end to that particular Tory waste of money/corruption scheme. Next job is to reaffirm the U.K. commitment to the European Council and the rule of international law (and Starmer has already appointed a highly respected KC as Attorney General to help with that).
@andrewmoorhouse687
@andrewmoorhouse687 2 ай бұрын
It’s only right to keep holding Government of whatever party to account Max, but to be honest, after the sh*tshow we’ve had over the last few years, especially post Brexit and post Johnson, I’m prepared to cut Keir and Labour some slack here. Just ending the Rwanda scheme itself, an intentionally cruel policy as well as an outrageous waste of public money, is good enough for me. Let’s see what Labour’s next moves are on this. I’m just so relieved we’ve got rid of the Tories, with their corruption, scandals and lies, that I’m going to enjoy the moment while it lasts.
@peterebel7899
@peterebel7899 3 ай бұрын
Rwanda will pay for it!
@deannilvalli6579
@deannilvalli6579 3 ай бұрын
This is excellent. An excellent move to show his authority, common sense and judgement.
@hotdognights1
@hotdognights1 3 ай бұрын
Isn't it weird having adults in charge.
@PDCRed
@PDCRed 3 ай бұрын
First fascist policy gone.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 3 ай бұрын
Problem is people (racist malcontents) will whine even when immigration goes down, a whole political party is built on this. They are not just going to pack up, give up their seats etc. God the right are exhausting.
@grahamgriffiths7405
@grahamgriffiths7405 3 ай бұрын
All people who disagree with the lefties are racist, classic statement, never gets boring 😂😂
@SheilaBloom.
@SheilaBloom. 3 ай бұрын
I really wish Starmer would 'grow a pair ' & have said we are ending Rwanda because it's inhumane & cruel
@malcolmstockbridge2569
@malcolmstockbridge2569 3 ай бұрын
He actually already used those words many months ago.
@leannan070
@leannan070 3 ай бұрын
👍
@SheilaBloom.
@SheilaBloom. 3 ай бұрын
@@malcolmstockbridge2569 would have carried more weight if he used them again when he was Prime Minister or even in the recent election campaign. Blair would have done
@malcolmstockbridge2569
@malcolmstockbridge2569 3 ай бұрын
@@SheilaBloom. and then people will jump all over him for repeating things....like my father was a toolmaker !
@SheilaBloom.
@SheilaBloom. 3 ай бұрын
@@malcolmstockbridge2569 Fascists may have jumped all over him remember the new saying ' You can't out Farage Farage ' Also what have we become that we can no longer call something cruel & inhumane which is cruel & inhumane
@mandycouchbean
@mandycouchbean 3 ай бұрын
Hi Max Good Afternoon Everyone ❤
@adamlee3772
@adamlee3772 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mandy
@Plummers888
@Plummers888 3 ай бұрын
He talked in the debates about getting the processing done properly. So he clearly means deterrent from dangerous illegal crossings.
@arcticbear2243
@arcticbear2243 3 ай бұрын
I think what Starmer meant by "deterrent" is that the asylum seekers themselves would think twice to come here, not that it would stop the people smugglers.
@lindaj5492
@lindaj5492 3 ай бұрын
I think that was Cruella’s claim
@darrengrimmer8541
@darrengrimmer8541 3 ай бұрын
This once great little island is finished.. the amount of people piling onto this island is unsustainable
@davidhooper1767
@davidhooper1767 3 ай бұрын
All that's needed is to process the claims and deport those that fail whilst those who are granted refugee status can get jobs.
@malcolmstockbridge2569
@malcolmstockbridge2569 3 ай бұрын
Well said.....can I add that we have over a million empty homes and at least 50 thousand council homes that have been empty for over a year.....No Tory ever mentioned that.
@illegitiminoncarborundum8202
@illegitiminoncarborundum8202 3 ай бұрын
Which will also obviate the need to use hotels to house temporarily those claiming asylum. Under previous Labour govt. claims were processed in two weeks !
@meatballg8655
@meatballg8655 3 ай бұрын
he is saying deterrent because that was the language that the tories used. they considered it a deterrent, he is saying that it was never a deterrent. he isn't using the language as his own view he is using what the previous government said to justify the cancellation of the money laundering scheme.
@henna6126
@henna6126 3 ай бұрын
Max the way I understood the Tory used as the Rwanda scheme was to discourage the Boat people coming to UK and not bother to do proper process According the international and country law for legal immigration it did not work and did not scare the Refuge coming and because the Airlines refused to transport them after highest court in the UK deemed illegal so he right to say it was meant by the Tories to use as scare tactics and the Rwanda get paid millions of pound that was better to have being used the court system to speed up the process and grant A Refuge status those qualified and deport those did not back to their countries so Max stop creating somethings that Stamer did not say but to the meaning what the reason Tories was using this scheme doing for by covering the mistakes of their precious party member and wasting the UK tax payers money knowing it was useless to begin with.greetings from citizen of the EU 27.
@chrisgregory3063
@chrisgregory3063 2 ай бұрын
Spending 120 million to send zero people is the definition of failed policy What the tories didn’t want to say is that the Rwanda government had total last say in accepting refugees and had the option to say no to anyone.
@obtuse1291
@obtuse1291 3 ай бұрын
Whatever proposals are for foreigners entering the UK, legally or ilegally, Rwanda had to be the most expensive and least effective option on the table.
@MichaelBrown-yj9kj
@MichaelBrown-yj9kj 3 ай бұрын
For those of you who have not been listening to Starmer, it may be a shock that he wants to reduce ALL immigration (including legal). But for those of us who have, at the end of those safe channels, we can see him implementing an effective asylum processing system that quickly returns applicants to their country of origin. It will allow him to claim a reduction in illegal crossings and the backlog of asylum seekers. This Prime Minister will not challenge the Rights notion that immigration is bad for the country. This will be another victory for Nigel Farage.
@DjBuddhaInBlack
@DjBuddhaInBlack 2 ай бұрын
He did say Labour was targeting the criminal people traffickers
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 3 ай бұрын
Great that Starmer is scrapping this scheme. Worrying that Starmer thinks that "having a deterrent" is a good thing.
@JeffDavies-i8q
@JeffDavies-i8q 3 ай бұрын
In power for less than 24hrs and already some good (and humane) decision making. I have missed this style of politics so much. A really good start!
@t-and-p
@t-and-p 3 ай бұрын
I don't think what he said is a concern. If anything, I think he's trying to show that he will do what he said he would do - represent the electorate, whether they voted for him or not. He's directly addressing a talking point in the right wing papers that will be on the minds of many of the people who voted - that "Labour are for open borders with no controls". This worries a lot of people (albeit unnecessarily because it's not true). By speaking on the points that concern them (& directly addressing claims in papers like the Spectator, the Hate Mail, and Telegraph that he will "promote lawlessness by not stopping people trafficking"), at his first press conference, as he does something that those papers will spin as "proof" that they were right (cancelling the Rwanda saga), he's trying to appease a wider audience. Why? Because, yes, Labour got in, but 14% of votes went to Reform, and that shows that a lot of people are worried about immigration (not because it's actually a problem, but because the Tory press have been whipping up fear on the issue since Brexit). The guy's a former barrister, he's trying to win over the whole jury.
@mandycouchbean
@mandycouchbean 3 ай бұрын
Spot on Max ❤
@craigevans6156
@craigevans6156 3 ай бұрын
They need to provide safe routes and that will stop the boats and save a fortune
@Jenny-e4v
@Jenny-e4v 3 ай бұрын
Prince Charles criticized the Rwanda scheme
@steveharrison76
@steveharrison76 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have to agree with other commenters. He used that phrase specifically because it was the Tory narrative and it’s out there in the discussion. He wants to kick the legs out from under that argument. It doesn’t signal anything other than that.
@MargaretStritzel
@MargaretStritzel 3 ай бұрын
Sir Keir has got a thankless job sorting the immigration problem alongside many other hurdles. However I'm sure he'll give it his best shot.
@johnrussell3961
@johnrussell3961 3 ай бұрын
We are in control of immigration and it’s not a problem
@JimmyDoggy-b1c
@JimmyDoggy-b1c 3 ай бұрын
He is like Joe Biden Joe Biden never ever did follow Trump policy. Same Starmer is doing .
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 ай бұрын
The only way I could interpret the word "deterrent" now, post-tory lunacy, is something that stops them thinking that riding an overloaded flimsy boat is a good idea to get across, but, there's nothing in place that actually makes it look like a bad idea, time to work with France and get those processing centres built there that the tories refused (to use the migrants as political ammo), create those safe routes that really do make a dodgy dinghy operated by gangs look like death on the water...
@carolesutton3082
@carolesutton3082 3 ай бұрын
England isn't listening 😂
@paulchadwick9419
@paulchadwick9419 3 ай бұрын
Great start best thing he could do is get rid of the Rwanda gimmick
@robertallen591
@robertallen591 3 ай бұрын
they did not want to process them because most were genuine what they wanted was no asylem in britain, of course they tripled the imigration of the workers needed to maintain the economy
@doctordeej
@doctordeej 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re reading too much into the word deterrent. He is just picking up on one of the flaws in the argument that it WAS a deterrent.
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