FULL SHOWER BUILD ..TIME LAPSE

[@StarrTile]

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[@fishon3586]

I thought u hate dry pack moartor?

[@StarrTile]

@fishon3586 I speak about different ways to do anything but I still prefer my way the best. Most homeowners have a difficult time with a dry pack because there's no recipe for how much water to add and it usually turns out Dusty and non-workable so I don't push it very much.

[@fishon3586]

@@StarrTile gotcha so it's ok to add more water it won't hurt you pan and also I see you water proof your pans now ? Is this still ok to do?

[@StarrTile]

@@fishon3586 if you go back on my Channel about 8 years ago you will see my mortar is a bit wet..not so wet that there will be a problem but enough that there will not be dust at the end, and yes I definitely waterproof the entire surface of My Pan and including the walls, showered should be functional with no title on it is the mantra

[@fishon3586]

@@StarrTile thanks

[@brianschrier6193]

Thank you so much for not adding music to the background. The voice over was awesome. Really explained a lot.

[@thelog86]

I'm putting this exact shower in rite now I like the color

[@calebmoos7742]

Thanks for doing a time lapse! It’s always fun to see the idiosyncrasies each job has and these are fun to watch

[@tripledstickers]

Glad to see your work. It took me well over a month to complete my shower. Keeping in mind I work 7 days a week at my job. The red guard is a must and i hope everyone uses it. I ended up using a trough drain and everyone that sees that are impressed. Also installed one of the frameless doors which really looks great. Keep up with the great videos.

[@thomasrecker221]

Thanks for the time lapse video. I really like how you applied the profile! Leaving a void to be filled later. I'm definitely going to try that.

[@matthewmclaren9353]

Thanks much for the video. As much as we like to see and hear about mistakes, it's more satisfying to watch a beautiful space come to fruition, crafted by a master.

[@aliiuso3470]

I appreciate you explaining all the steps for beginners, it makes sense when you talk people thru every step no matter how tedious the job👍🏼God bless 🙏🏽🤙🏼

[@dfw_motorrad1329]

I'm starting on a custom tile shower now. Your videos have been more than helpful to get the small details and order of operations right. Wish me luck.

[@dfw_motorrad1329]

Update: Plumbing is done, drain flange glued and screwed, subfloor is closed up. I dropped the bottom layer of subfloor so that the top of that layer is at the top of the joists so I could get 1.5" subfloor while keeping it as low as possible. Lots of 2x4 bracing under that subfloor. Man, is it solid. Blocking is in for the pan liner and shower tower, niche and curb are framed out. Ready for liner and mud bed.

[@gatoborracho4572]

Sr.. just watching you work like that with those results...encourage me to renew my shower....thanks for helping others understand how is your job done ✔

[@timtoolman6442]

You're hands down the best tile gut on KZbin... All the other guys like sal and Issac just brag on themselves, you provide useful info

[@briang3033]

Hey Bob, Can you please upload more videos like this. This was awesome and very educational. Thank you for the upload, I know it’s a lot of work to film and work at the same time. Thank you!

[@rickpye2465]

A true craftsman. Very nice.

[@StarrTile]

Thank you !

[@rickybellamy8191]

Nice job! So talented. You make this look easy.

[@10americanpatriot]

Brother .....you are a master!!!

[@StarrTile]

Thank you sir

[@toddolson573]

Bob, I really like how you go about explaining everything you do. So when you do a taper cut in the floor to allow the drain base to fit flush with the existing floor, I had thought on this quite extensively; have you consisered using a router and flush cut bit to route out the debth and circumference of the drain base after having scribed the diameter of the floor drain upon said floor. I actually applied this to my own build and was quite pleased with the outcome as it left me a more flat area to screw the drain base down to, and without having to remove an excess amount of material, as i noticed in your video. Again thanks for for all your input, its been a lot of help in doing my shower build. Take care.

[@litoloco4fish]

this to me is by far my favorite of your videos ..it made such a difference to me since I'm very visual...watching you work was great 👍 very good skills in my opinion

[@scoobtoober2975]

I was sweating about my drain height. Not anymore. Better a touch low than high. Love you work. I'm almost to tiling. 36" linear drain. Buried in mortar bed. Can't change it now. Red guard everywhere

[@nickjames205]

Wow! What beautiful work.

[@zhichen2463]

Great video, keep up the good work!!

[@fuzzresponder2225]

Great video, and thank you for the education!

[@jtroch1023]

Another fine project. Bet you get to choose the work you accept . Good for you. !

[@zeroeffort1572]

Made it look so easy. Having done a similar job i know its far from easy. Cant beat experience!

[@fencerider1492]

Awesome vid Bob, hope u make more of em. 👍

[@exidi19]

Amazing work , of course you are old school the best way there is. This was really entertaining to watch. 👍🏻

[@BT-kt7gb]

You are awesome. I am fallowing your lead on tiling my reno bath project.

[@nickblack9728]

Great video; and great timing. I’m doing the exact same remodel job this week , but found that my stack pipe was in the knee wall. 🥴 My first time doing tile, thank you for your videos!

[@denniswebb7068]

Awesome craftsmanship, he does a very good job.

[@JEMCC]

That was just fantastic .... Thank you and I learned a lot.

[@WillaHerrera]

That's an absolutely beautiful job. I love love love the time lapse. Thank you

[@StarrTile]

Thank you !

[@WillaHerrera]

StarrTile You are very welcome sir. Thank you for sharing your knowledge you have no idea how many showers you have saved all over the world. I know I have learned some things from you that I had no idea about. You are a true artist. Just doing a job and never learning and changing things so they work better is just a job. You learn and sculpt things and finesse the job so it's amazing.

[@hopelessmotorsports5922]

Great video

[@brandonmahoney9407]

You’re a true craftsman! Excellent attention to detail. Nice work 👍

[@robhayes3503]

Looks great.

[@matthewbegin3462]

Great video Bob, well done

[@TheSanctuaryAirbnbRetreat]

Very informative, i would hire you in a flash to do my bathrooms!

[@stevej677]

Thank you for posting this video. Seeing the overview was very helpful.

[@DJDavidValentino1]

Awesome Video - Thank you!

[@KnJsThailandAdventure24]

I have watched many, many of your video's (all very good!) and think that the way you did this one was outstanding!! I really enjoyed that and learned a lot!! Thanks!!

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

Beautiful shower!

[@pattyhernandez5432]

Absolutely love watching you work!!!

[@1dt1971]

Looks awesome. Really would like to see how the shower door system works, especially with the bench flush with the curb.

[@TileMasterGa]

Stay safe Bob during your journeys !

[@StarrTile]

Thank you sir, I appreciate that... You do the same 👍👌

[@mattmason7554]

Excellent 👍👍

[@socksincrocks4421]

Uncle Junior? Thanks for your video. Awesome

[@hosackies]

Watching the master at work! What a wonderful joy!

[@grilledchickenwrap]

fabulous!! awesome video!! from start to finish... I enjoyed watching it :)

[@timkinnison4968]

Awesome video. Learned a lot.

[@SuperPowerdaniel]

Excellent videos and have been very helpful walking me through my bath remodel. Thank you

[@johnotoole9070]

Beautiful work man, you're videos have taught me alot👌👍 I also taper my tiles around the drain, and I found it's pretty easy to taper the tiles around square drain corners with a diamond file.

[@jpjp3873]

Is tapering only for a natural stone tile? Seems like it wouldn't be appropriate for ceramic tiles.

[@Bukata100]

Awesome job!

[@martinradtke5181]

Wow! Got dizzy with accelerated video but very informative. My 1st ever attempt tile shower stall 60" x 34" after plumber is finished this week. Oh boy! The devil is in the details.....Thank you! My plumber is putting in an acrylic pan.

[@BlahBlahManYeah]

Great video and narrative!

[@michaeljones2210]

Very very nice man!

[@alextran8046]

this was amazing to watch. you've convinced me its impossible to ever DIY my own shower.

[@StarrTile]

😂😂😂

[@luckydougfergus]

Alex Tran: You are funny!!

[@mram7715]

Why were there no thinset ridges on the bench when installing tile 21:15 mark?

[@EverydayworkAli]

Very nice work. Thanks for the info.

[@StarrTile]

Thanks

[@j.d.8457]

Love your videos! I wish you were still doing tile showers. I need a true craftsman like yourself here in Georgia.

[@StarrTile]

I am in Georgia👌

[@lucille_3]

Yes!!!! Please do more of these

[@purtis99]

Always enjoy your videos

[@StarrTile]

Thanks !!

[@np1000]

Really nice

[@SergeNiko]

Awesome Videos! thank you for taking the time to be so detailed! Question on the niche, why dont you set your bottom tile, then the niche wall tile on top of the bottom tile? that way water runs off the bottom tile from the niche wall.

[@Theresistance64]

I love that tile. I'll be using that.

[@35son]

THAKS SO MUCH for the voice over choice

[@jaredking2054]

Why the backer board gap? I don't recall you saying? Also, I have sealed mosaics before laying them down and they fall off the mesh backing so that is something to be aware of. I did a backsplash and they all fell off.

[@StarrTile]

The Gap is to leave room between the pan and the wallboard, that way Water gets into the board. And yes on really crappy mosaics the tile will come off of the backing when it gets wet.

[@robertsimmons1264]

I learned the ledger board trick from Tile Master also. It's the best.

[@tripledstickers]

Wouldn't do it any other way. Once I seen that it made complete sense to go that route.

[@ubermenschen3636]

Beautiful job!

[@designerdrains8544]

Thanks for showing install of your shower project, I would love to suggest your video to some of my customers if that's ok with you?

[@StarrTile]

Sure, no problem

[@deleondoesit8197]

How much does something like this cost?

[@dddtran]

I noticed the niche is on the exterior wall, is that recommended due to lack of insulation if the location is cold/hot. What are your thoughts on that and has the owners noticed on the comfort level? unless it is in a location that is nice all year round. Thanks

[@StarrTile]

So on every house there is going to be siding and an insulation barrier before the stud insulation, plus you have ambient temperature have your house. The only way I think it would be an issue as if you lived somewhere where it stays freezing for months on end or gets below freezing degrees frequently.... here in Georgia it does not.

[@Hardrockingamigo]

Do you push the floor tile all the way up inside the pan liner-backerboard gap?

[@ginagvlogs2386]

for a fiberglass shower pan install can i add a pony wall on top of the curb? really nice work

[@StarrTile]

Yes I have done it from time to time... fairly easy process

[@charlesmartinez6660]

What happened to the pre-slope before you did your pan liner

[@StarrTile]

You obviously don't follow my channel and know that I don't Dupree slopes, they don't function as intended and is a moot issue because we all waterproof pan surface so pre-slope is irrelevant

[@doesntmatter5263]

Not if it’s done correctly

[@thelog86]

Is it necessary to have the pvc liner with the pan covered with redguard, i know its a backup but the water should never get below the redguard

[@StarrTile]

@@thelog86 there is a bit of controversy about that because if you are waterproofing the surface then what point is a liner underneath the motor, however I just feel it is a safe backup

[@ronaldglen4636]

It looks like there is a half inch gap between the wall board and the mortar bed. Once you have done your redgaurd and tile is there a concern about the void? Caulking might do more harm then good. Seems like a weak spot. What are your thoughts. Thanks again for your time.

[@larrth61]

I see you used green board on the walls but did not see what you used on the top and sides of the curb liner.Was it backer board?

[@StarrTile]

Yes

[@davidwallace6466]

Why was your thinset you put on the bottom and the bench darker then it was on the second coat? Or was it mortar on the first coat?

[@alejandrocuellar15]

Is the red guard necessary on the floor since you have the pvc liner pan? Will there be any issues with combination of that drain and liner with the coating of redguard over the mortar bed? I ask because I've read on the internet people mention mold issues due to the weepholes in the drain.

[@StarrTile]

It is too difficult to explain, I suggest you look up sealed system, we are not trying to allow water to get into the mortar and that's why I waterproof the surface

[@mram7715]

Is the flange secured into the ground pipe pretty snug with glue? Would like to see a plumbing vid on how you make the drain connection. Thanks again!

[@stephenmuhlenbruck6876]

It gets screwed into the wood floor before the membrane. Works just like a toilet flange

[@mram7715]

@@stephenmuhlenbruck6876 I’m referring to the pipe connection below the flange. Thanks

[@stephenmuhlenbruck6876]

@@mram7715 It glues in like a regular 2" coupling into the trap.

[@mram7715]

@@stephenmuhlenbruck6876 I guess the trap has to be pretty sturdy to allow the flange to push down into it. I would worry I May not have a secure seal. I appreciate the info. Thanks again

[@BRTardiff]

This is an excellent, informative video that indirectly answered something I’ve been wondering about for my own design… no issues building a niche into an exterior wall?

[@StarrTile]

I'm in the South and it rarely freezes if ever and even if it does it doesn't last, if I were in Alaska or Upstate New York then perhaps I would not do it on an exterior wall

[@BRTardiff]

@@StarrTile Thanks for the reply. We’re in Nashville and do get cold in the winter. I appreciate all your videos. My ten year old shower started leaking and I’m trying to soak up as much knowledge as possible. What started as looking for a bandaid fix may now turn into a full renovation thanks to you and a few other reputable guys on here.

[@toddr.4630]

Excellent job ✌️ much appreciated, makes me proud to see great work like this 👍, you did everything 100% , thorough, complete, 5 5tar work tilesetter !!!! 😝 👍

[@Wolvpato1]

How much was the total for that job?

[@matthall2934]

Hey Bob! Great video! I noticed that you did not use Oates X-15 adhesive to glue your shower pan liner in place. Is there a reason you don’t use the X-15 adhesive???

[@StarrTile]

Glue a pan liner in place? Never heard of that one before... the pan liner is stable because of the fasteners at the top of it and the 200 lb plus mortar on the inside

[@troywehr4029]

You do great work man. I have a little tile experience but would like to get better at it. It would be awesome if you did a detailed video with up close shots of things like setting the drain assembly with the measurements that you typically go with, as well as about how high you hold you're wall board off the pan. Thanks man

[@alexromero2295]

Thank You, amazing work

[@max-jayderomero7743]

Question: Why no mortar bed above wood but below pan liner. I thought that was a requirement? i.e. wood, tar paper, initial mortar bef, liner, second mortar bed & tile?

[@JeremyUSA]

In your opinion, do all showers have to have a curb? Is it hard to do a walk-in shower, without a curb? A curbless shower looks so much better.

[@StarrTile]

Pretty much all showers need a curb, when curbless shower is done it is usually for practical reasons like Wheelchairs and ADA type of stuff

[@richardgonzales4978]

If water gets past the tile, how doe’s it drain? Do you use the weep holes?

[@StarrTile]

Waterproofing the pan surface makes it so that your pan is only Built to shed water off of your tile. If water gets into grout it evaporates between showers

[@politerabbit3100]

I have a question--we're about to rip out a preformed shower and put in tile. We bought 3/8 profile trim for 12 x 24 tile that looks about the same thickness you're using here and ours is porcelain. Should we have gotten the 1/2 inch profile trim. What is the size you're using here?

[@StarrTile]

The trim that is the same size as the tile most likely will not work comma step up to half inch and you'll have some wiggle room for your thinset

[@erniezarro7]

Bob, excellent video. Thank you. As you were applying thinset around the drain you mentioned that you were also going to eventually caulk around the drain. I'm interpreting that to mean you would first complete all of the grouting on the floor and around the drain and than finish it off with a bead of caulk around the drain and in the edges and corners. Is my interpretation correct? Thanks again. Masterful work.

[@StarrTile]

No incorrect, I use silicone around the drain Edge before I put redgard on it, or if I forget I can put silicone after I apply the Red redgard, all of that is prior to the tile and grout

[@0062Brank]

@@StarrTile Hey I like the idea of waterproofing the top layer of the pan, as opposed to the more common method. However I am curious if you silicone around the drain on the top layer of mortar and then totally waterproof with a membrane how does any water that makes it past the grout get to the drain? It can't get to the weepholes because its totally waterproof which is awesome, but its also below the level of the top of the drain...does it just sit on top of the membrane in the thinset forever? I am generally curious as I have never done a shower, is there more weepholes in the top piece of that drain style that I am unaware of that would take care of this issue?

[@jpjp3873]

@@StarrTile Any issues with silicone preventing rearguard from adhering as it is "unpaintable"? Would a polyurethane caulk be acceptable?

[@Rakadazan]

I just have an issue with exterior wall side niches, the "R" value has to decrease significantly?

[@StarrTile]

If you're in Alaska perhaps. Double sheetrock, redgard, tile...seems like a good insulator. Plus ambient temp in room..and I'm in Georgia so our freeze days are minimal.

[@luigi4594]

Noticed the bench side is flush with the outside of the curb. How are you going to fit a standard shower door? You need a custom made one now

[@StarrTile]

Almost all the showers I build will have custom glass put in, go to the community tab of my channel and you will see a picture...months later they have the glass installed

[@BetterToDIY]

Great job as always, enjoyed the time lapse with commentary. I would even consider turning the video into 2 parts, stopping at the red guard then second video doing the rest.

[@peterdean5300]

Great job as always, you make it look so easy, and i know it's not.

[@rfdkcode3711]

Hey do you ever use tape for for the corners of the shower wall?

[@StarrTile]

No I don't, mainly because I'm using a liquid topical membrane which stretches much much more than tape ever would... It's also a crack preventer if you look on the label... If you choose to use tape then it is a redundancy but no harm no foul

[@JakeHolder]

So there will be no door or anything in that? Curious if that’s ever an issue?

[@StarrTile]

The door has to be measured and cut and usually two weeks out from being installed, I don't do that in so it's rare that I ever get to see the door installed, but yes eventually they had one put in

[@JakeHolder]

@@StarrTile I was just curious. Currently framed out a shower and would love to not have a wall or glass but know it would get wet outside of the pan if it wasn’t there. Thanks for the quick reply

[@Vera-xu3xw]

Nice job. I'm doing around my daughter's bathtub. I'm running my cement board vertically instead of horizontally. It just fit better. Every tile job I see its vertical what's the reason? Thanks

[@StarrTile]

Not real reason, just easier to set horizontally

[@dragon0361]

Do u cut the excess liner off at the bottom? Or does the cement board go over it?

[@StarrTile]

The board goes over it... only place I cut off any excess would be the outside of the curb where it meets the floor

[@vitaliyo5537]

Where is your preslope on your pan?

[@tomstclair961]

Great job💪💪🇺🇸✌️😎💰💰💰💰

[@44Mag]

Thank you for your videos. I need to re-do a bathroom that has tiles from 1956. (shower, floors, counter top, and half-way up the walls) We plan to remove all the tiles and go with vinyl flooring and a solid counter top with splashboard (cheap type sold at Home Depot) We also plan to remove the tub and go with a fiberglass type shower liner kit, with a glass door. (again, nothing fancy - the type you can buy at the big box stores) The tiles in the shower were put on with mortar (or concrete?) and chicken wire I think? (A friend has told me this will add cost to the demo of them?) I have had a few contractors out, and I have gotten estimates of $8k to $22k (I gave them all the same specs, so not sure why the large variance in prices?) - This large variance has me confused though - what would be a typical cost to do this remodel if you were doing it? (I am wanting to make sure I do not over-pay, but at the same time, I am afraid if something is too low cost, I may wind up having to have it re-done in just a few years or something. Another big problem I am seeing is that every contractor I have contacted is saying it would bee Jan-Mar before they could even start the project. (I guess they are all swamped due to some wide-spread flooding that happened in Dallas (about 30 miles from me) a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for any help you can shed on this.

[@StarrTile]

Geography makes a difference sometimes, here in Atlanta that job would probably cost you about 9 to 10,000 if I did it, perhaps a bit more, so the two numbers you have, somewhere in the middle would be reasonable for a company, I'm a stand alone tile guy so I don't have the overhead a company does. No matter who does it I highly recommend getting a written warranty, not just verbal, 10 years isn't unreasonable, but most companies won't give it for that long unfortunately. And yes it is very labor intensive for the older style bathrooms with all the cement product that they use, besides the fact it's all embedded with asbestos so there is that too... my price would probably come in at about 12 Grand and I would discount $2,000 for you to do the demo. And yes, typically contractors are busy through the holidays and especially the last couple of years with covid everyone has been busy since most homeowners have been staring at all of their honey-do lists for months. The 20K price usually means they don't want your job, it's an easy way to make you go away, and then if you come back and hire them they will etch out a time period to make it happen for that kind of money.

[@44Mag]

@@StarrTile Thanks so much for the information. I really appreciate it, and I think it gives me a better understanding of the reason for the price variance I am getting. As for the warranty, I have only been quoted 1 year from everyone. (Which I was surprised about - I was figuring it would be at least 2-3 years) We are wanting to base our selection of the contractor on 1) price 2) unresolved BBB complaints 3) their starting date for the job 4) the length of time the job will take (probably with equal considerations for each of these) Since this is our first time hiring contractors, we are wanting to avoid that TV-type scenario, where the contractor starts the job, then only works on it once a week or less, and it winds up taking 6 months to get it completed. I guess I should ask for references of prior customers to help reduce this worry. (Some of these guys are also wanting 80% of the estimate price just to get me on their schedule, which is a whole new worry I am trying to figure out how to overcome! The lowest deposit anyone has asked for so far is 50% up-front....) Thank you again for the information..... If I were a little younger and had a little better health, I would probably try to tackle the job myself with the information I am learning on your channel and a couple of others.

[@StarrTile]

@@44Mag I don't know that I would depend on the bbb, it's kind of an archaic gauge since you kind of have to belong to it to have a complaint lodged. I would look for a presence on the internet, you can Google their name, their company name, their phone number, and if they have little to no presence then that would be a red flag for me. Also I recommend that people go to stand alone tile stores, go to the loading dock area because the guy behind the counter will be able to recommend good Tile Guys that know what they're doing. And yes I agree a year is not very long, as a rule I will give a lifetime warranty because arguably I don't have much of that left, also if I'm doing something wrong I would want to know about it whether it's one year or 5 years or 10 years from now. My take on it is at your AC usually comes with 5-year, your roof will come with a 10-year, and I don't see any reason for a shower to be any different. Insofar as the deposit goes, I require 20% in advance to hold your spot on my calendar and that is non-refundable so if you cancel then I've only made a very small fraction of the money in relation to the time I've given up. Having said that I require 50% of the remainder as soon as I get there and the other 50% when I'm finished. As to your other issue with timeline, it's been recommended by consumer advocates to stipulate a start date and an end date on the contract, for every day they are late past the end date they would be docked a certain amount of money, that would be up to you guys to decide how much... on the very rare occasions I have written it my contract that way I have agreed to deduct $100 a day for everyday I'm late finishing, I haven't had to pay out yet.

[@44Mag]

@@StarrTile Thanks again...Great outlook on your warranty coverage! 😂😁