He is NOT a Tile Setter !!

[@bchuck2574]

Thank you Bob, You saved my @$$ in my bathroom ... your goal was acheived in reaching a homeowner in time. I just fired a crew this week because of seeing dozens of your videos on what to look for.. I have a new installer saving my butt and doing a great job now. Seriously THANK YOU

[@StarrTile]

And thank YOU for watching, glad I could help out !

[@davegaborik3451]

Man I've got to say I really dig your videos. I set tile, and it's fun watching how other competent trade mechanics do things. With that out of the way, I really had to tell you that your music taste is spot on!! I hadn't even heard of half the people, now I listen to them on a regular basis. Dayalla is now my jams man!!!

[@StarrTile]

Dyalla is one of my faves too !

[@tylermcginnis9277]

Quit apologizing for pointing out other’s mistakes!!! These videos are SUPER informative, and I learn something new every time I watch these. You are a pro, and it’s important to point out the difference between a pro, and some goon with a tile trowel! Keep the videos coming, we really appreciate them. Also, is there somewhere we can message you for advice/questions? Definitely willing to pay for your time!

[@SonsOfDeForest]

the awesome chill music at the beginning is the perfect antidote to the horrifying images i am seeing. well played sir

[@wereham]

darn, i knew there was a job i forgot to grout

[@101perspective]

lol

[@jefsiv]

I just redid my shower/tub with knee wall between, it came out excellent, and I want to thank you because I watched a lot of your videos first.

[@StarrTile]

Thank you !

[@mary-lynwigg2577]

I worked one job for a guy as his helper. When I pointed out his inconsistent grout joints he said he wasn't changing it. At the end of the job when the homeowner wouldn't accept them he got mad at ME for not making them look perfect with the grout!!

[@tadpole8176]

I recently fired my contractor because his tile work looked very similar to this. I've been watching your videos as well as several others and I plan to finish the new bathroom myself.I have no faith in the drain install and have several issues with the grout lines and cuts.

[@godbluffvdgg]

Ahh, little grout some caulk...good as new...;)..Brutal workmanship!

[@giorod9739]

I bought a new house built 4 years ago and I want to change from carpet to tile but I know my neighbors have problems with their tile floor since the the concrete slab still settling the tile have developed a hair line from wall to wall right where the cracks in the new slab were, and it had happen to several people that I know but I know that their is a way to do it, like a floating tile installation, but I don't know much about it and I am scared to pay to getting it done just to find a crack a few years later and the warranty is expired, any suggestions what to ask for and what kind of questions should I ask the contractor, thank you sir your videos are send from heaven to a guy like me who don't know much about tile work, looking forwards to your advice

[@StarrTile]

You'll need an uncoupling membrane like Schluter, then any cracking of slab will not transfer through to your tile.

[@dmsfloyd]

Great learning shows Seeing how not to do something is very helpful to see how it should be done. Thanks for the insight

[@lifeIsTemporaryHere]

...and this is why i love the olden days.. umm 20’s 30’s 60’s.. there were apprentices.. eg. on the job training.. and even the 70’s there were trade schools IN HIGH SCHOOLS.. Today we have inspiring entrepreneur’s that learn as they go at the expense of ginny-pig home owners who pay out the bumm for shady workmanship for those that earn the reputation of “Handy-Man-Jack of all trades” Sadly.. so many are to blame for this... going backwards we can start with removing skill trades from schooling, now you need to have money to go learn a trade and there are many scam-artists eager to provide eager students with student loans for trade school.. (complete money grab) when this training was provided as public education along with auto tech, home economics, etc.. Shady work is what society created with inspiring unskilled entrepreneur’s...

[@artdart7966]

I agree most jobs were mud work, today is different, mastic and thin set made a lot of people think they are tilesetter

[@sarabiakristofer]

Not to bad for a first time,Looks good to me.🖒👌👌 the sketchy part is putting the work on blast .

[@tedspens]

In the late 80s, early 90s, I worked as general labor for small remodeling contractors. They had me do tile work because I said "Sure, I can do that!". Some (but not all) of those tile jobs were horrendous! That was my learning experience.... a lot of what not to do. But I never did anything nearly as bad as that shower. Mine at least looked good on the surface, long enough for the contractor to get paid.

[@peterjones9646]

cement backer on the floor of shower? pricele$$

[@trippleslots]

Really enjoy watching these videos as we are doing a bathroom right now. I have really been pushy about how the shower proper is being done I may live with a few bad mistakes outside of the shower but inside we are doinga home run or go home Would like to ask how do you remove the excess thinset between the tiles if I amy ask

[@StarrTile]

Small flat screw driver or a utility knife

[@elgeneralxx]

im starting to think this guy is doing these messes on purpose and blaming the homeowner lol

[@skawalker35]

I took a shot at tiling an 8x9 laundry room with 17" tiles. At least it's not a shower! Lol. I'm a handyman, but I usually fix more mechanical things like leaks, electrical, appliances, etc. I have an eye for detail and know just enough to be dangerous with some things. Anyway, I don't think my tile is bad. I've been taking my time, but it's not great either. Is it possible to get tiles that are not all exactly the same? Because I have some areas where my lines are off just a little bit. Lippage is negligible (the room is not flat so I floated in areas). Again as I said it's not a shower, or a place that will be wet all the time, but I did tie in a drain in the middle of the floor. I figure even if the drain is exactly right, in the event of a leak, it will still be better to have water going out rather than nowhere. All that to say, doing great tile is not easy. But I think I did better than this guy. :O

[@jerryrobinson7588]

That's a shame. I hate to see customers being mistreated like that

[@frontallobotomy3481]

hardibacker pan. that's old school and those custom mitered dome liners? must have taken hours. great floor layout too. he was probably the best tile setter in his home country of Hackministan.

[@Chris-oz5md]

The “DYI” homeowner did that 😂😂 he’s too ashamed to admit he cheaped out. As a homeowner if I see something that not right I’ll stop it right away

[@Titantitan001]

Seriously! I do tile but even it I didn’t I would see that and be like uhhh dude do you know what you are doing? Homeowners are up my butt every morning wanting to see the progress (good on them and I encourage it) so idk how this guy let this get this bad. I think your assumption is correct.

[@DumbCarGuy]

This is a great video for a harbor freight tool commercial

[@wallacegrommet9343]

The song is rather ironic as there is not much to smile about

[@davidbrewer7937]

How long did it take for the homeowner to start getting concerned & call a stop work?

[@jeremyruss2407]

Does he live in Michigan ? I think I just fixed his work or mabee his brother ! Lol

[@johnkim7733]

the best thing for a homeowner is to do the research. not just tile contractor but the whole process. my wife hired her coworker's husband who is a handyman. i watched as they nailed the hardibacker to the walls. the boards were not flushed against each other and not leveled. they didnt want to redo it. after arguing with them about it, i decided to fire them. of course i did loose the half upfront money but at least i caught it before they started to tile.

[@tylercrumley8082]

John Kim lol they probably could’ve still done just as good as a job

[@efman2k3]

That was horrifying! Great video. Thanks for posting!

[@skizilla]

I'm a DIYer and this makes me feel better about myself.

[@PlaynKoi]

I am feeling sick to my tummy...

[@gatoborracho4572]

Me too..

[@jkunderwood3291]

Do you pound your tiles in with a mallet? I've heard it's best to ensure full coverage with thinset

[@StarrTile]

No I don't...moving them slightly ensures good coverage

[@jkunderwood3291]

StarrTile I find myself doing both. Sometimes I don't have enough room to shimmy them down in.

[@Mike-vt6is]

I do sometimes to get tile to set. in case of a lip

[@jerirn968]

This is not the worst tile job, you should see mine unfortunately. I have to replace the shower again at some point with a professional tile installer.

[@shaneramsook9250]

What did he use to make his cuts? His teeth?

[@Jcolinsol]

How do you avoid lippage when installing tile on walls, if you don't mind my asking?

[@StarrTile]

Having walls as straight/flush as possible, using thinset on both wall & tile, using levels a lot, and some like using SLS ( self leveling systems )...spacers with shims that force tiles to be flush.

[@Jcolinsol]

StarrTile Thanks for the info, sir.

[@Hhhhhhlllll]

Walls are brutal these days goes from plum to 1/2 half inch to 1inch out of plum 😂

[@sunshinevapes6486]

i have watched your videos and it helped me tile my new show i did the concert and rubber pan anyhow it was my frist time ever doing it i did it all myself and ut turned out great thanks but thus guy had not ideal what he was doing i hipe no one paid him for this job hope you can fix it thanks again for all your help

[@125AXer]

Had to laugh when I saw the little + shaped tiling spacers being used in a flat orientation! Hilarious!

[@tbugtreybob]

125AXer you get to re use the spacers

[@mactheaxe84]

I do when the grout line is THAT size. Reusable

[@justinreed7093]

I would bet if the walls were open there be empty beer bottles in them cause this tile guy had to be drunk

[@dannytonnessen6896]

🙋‍♀️ Did you do an update with it fixed? I would love to see how it turned out! 🤗

[@StarrTile]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qonWfK1orq6in6c

[@ollypolly18]

wow wow wow what a shoddy job he did there. I think he needs new specs. and a few $s for some spacers. StarTile question for you, why dont you over there use 1 and half drains for showers? We here in the UK have all ways used 1 and half inch for showers Steve UK

[@StarrTile]

I'm not sure why we use 2'' shower drains, in fact it's the ONLY 2'' we use...vanity, kitchen sink & tubs are all 1 1/2''

[@thomasbroking7943]

It has baffled me forever.. Why should a standing tub holding over a hundred gallons of water have an 1 1/2 in drain but a shower that only gets 2.5 gal per minute from the showerhead has a full 2" drain..

[@Titantitan001]

My God. That all needs to come out

[@Theresistance64]

I am getting ready to very carefully retile my shower. If I do ANY of the silly mistakes that the tiler did in this video, I'm going to off myself.

[@paulholland9470]

Damn! I've been doin pencil liner the hard way all these years! Horrible job, great video.

[@stevekincaid4382]

Once had to gut a bathroom because the "contractor" used dry wall mud to glue the tile to the walls.

[@sidior12]

Oh my God! Was this tiler blind?

[@viperviper5]

Keep making these videos and exposing these frauds. Good job

[@hiroshi138]

OMG...complete horror show!

[@vistron888]

Thinset may not be that thick. Likely plywood below cut short and that is just the overhang of thinset you see.

[@NativeNYerChicHK]

Looks like he chewed through the tile at the shower pipe, maybe it was lunchtime? 🤣🤣🤣

[@s9erkills]

Find the mistakes? Its harder to find anything done right lol

[@chubchub1307]

Haha!

[@KonradMB1]

I don't understand how someone could do this. We're they drunk? Did they not care? We're they doing tiles for the first time ever or ALL the above?

[@dasaster7993]

I love these videos.

[@noesalgado5038]

No water proofing at the bottom . Wow

[@Hunter-yc4xi]

Do you ever get feedback on any of these bad tile jobs from the people who did them? If so they're probably all defensive. I have a customer that has three showers where the pans and tile are all built incorrectly. All curbs are too short. One is only one 2x4 high, two are two high. None are angled. tile has lippage, 2x4 mosaic tile on the curbs, grout not cleaned off the floor etc etc........I feel where your coming from!

[@StarrTile]

I've never spoken with any of them...I doubt they would be defensive, I think by this point they KNOW they screwed up

[@yazburna0641]

Love vids, please upgrade camera for higher video resolutions.

[@Wayne-fe1ed]

Terrible job. So how did you resolve all of these issues. Complete removal?

[@StarrTile]

Yes...none of the material can be salvaged...HUGE waste of money

[@sophienelson6966]

all that expensive beautiful tile wasted by stupid useless crew.. the worst part is,,its a small area to mess (curse word) up.. i am still shaking my head,.. noooooooooo!!!

[@StarrTile]

Yup... I had to take everything out and start over, I believe I posted a link to the finished job in the description.

[@aldooze]

Mix and match spacers?

[@mikeklug3369]

The work shown in your videos fall short of acceptable standards yes. However i see a bunch of these videos showing others work. Do you have any finished jobs and videos of your own work. If so i just havent seen them. But maybe im looking in the wrong places.

[@StarrTile]

I have 412 videos most show my work, you can look around my channel but here is a link had you looked for it in the description box of the finished shower you just watched.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qonWfK1orq6in6c

[@mikeklug3369]

@@StarrTile cool thanks

[@gatoborracho4572]

You must be plain dumb .. why do you think he's showing this kind of videos ??... he has been called to repair others failures ..

[@StarrTile]

*IF THIS WAS HELPFUL PLEASE CONTRIBUTE TO ME PATREON OR PAYPAL..THANK YOU !* www.patreon.com/starrtile for Patreon or [e-mail] for PayPal FINISHED JOB HERE >kzbin.info/www/bejne/qonWfK1orq6in6c

[@anijohnson8082]

Love the music too Sara Smile Hip Hop Remix

[@zandemen]

You should have some sort of warning, I almost threw up.

[@sanchezconstruction5217]

I haven’t heard you talk about hot mopping shower pans. Do you guys not use that in Georgia

[@StarrTile]

Absolutely not ! Apparently it's a west coast thing, though I hear those on the east coast talk about it too. Way to antiquated.

[@mrsmith9350]

They did in cali when i left for texas, it and fiberglass stink up the house so much!

[@paulmryglod4802]

I counted 137 distinct mistakes what do I win?!

[@cheesewedge182]

Actually with this job you lose

[@tthomas]

Wow!!! Patrick from spongebob must have set this tile🤔

[@chubchub1307]

Even Patrick would've done a better job! 😂😂😂

[@juanrules1992]

I just found your Chanel been watching it a lot, your not perfect as we (my company) are not. But I love to see this vids a bit long but it's funny. I truly can't understand how people let this contractors do the work for them, even before they start laying the tile major red flags. Plus I'd like to know how much they charge. I've lost a lot of jobs cause of lower bids, I always wonder how good of a job they did. Tip: take classes from Schluter their free, that's the main area you are complete in.

[@StarrTile]

Thank you for your comment, much appreciated and taken well, however I do not and will not use Kerdi Schluter products... they are way overpriced and most of the people that use them the company sales people like yourself. For me to use that product on a typical shower will cost my customer in excess of $600 to $800, and in some cases more, that's ridiculous. And yes I am well aware that the classes are free, that's how they get you to buy their product, a little brainwashing goes a long way. Back 20 plus years ago when I did HVAC, Trane also has free classes, in fact they will even put you in a hotel for free, why do you think that is ?

[@juanrules1992]

StarrTile Yes they pay for the hotel and steak dinners but you don't have to buy anything in fact you can't buy any Schluter products during the classes even if you wanted to. I just think the more you know the better. Price is not 600 to 800 maybe if you buy retail but you should not be buying retail if you send me a private message I could let you know prices if you don't already have them. We use it in all remodels we do, to the customer the total price difference is around 200 ( less than $100 if you buy a lot at a time). Plus is faster and it take all the warranties of your hands. Many times it makes the difference and separates us from the rest, most customers don't mind paying the couple hundred more.

[@trippleslots]

We used wedi shower kit and found it within dollars of what the cost would be if using a conventional method You can easily spend 6=800 on a pan alone I will say Wedi Board does appear to be for easier to use than Schluter

[@larrysmith8742]

I hope they took this guy to court what a mess I'm just Lost for words

[@HailMe666]

There's no shower pan. Therefore there's no slope to the drain. You float drypac to a slope of 1/8th per foot. Then you put the shower pan in. Then you float the walls with phatmud. Then you float the curb and shower floor to slope to the drain cap. After that's all dry you're ready to sell tile.

[@victorhuerta341]

Is that wonder board on the floor?

[@StarrTile]

Yep

[@victorhuerta341]

Son of a gun that is one bad tile install.

[@christianguerrero3802]

Fake it till you make it!! This setter probably picked up a tiling for dummies book lol

[@thomasbroking7943]

$2g worth of materials just tossed away plus all the time. Its a shame how that was done..I think it was a guy that was doing some construction maybe a sweeper that liked watching and finally decided he could do it. Then he had a little problem, then another & another until it was finally just a big bag of errors that is beyond repair.

[@wellitsherenow]

4" grinder is what he cut with

[@thomasbroking7943]

You didn't get a handymen job to finish, you got a botchagalupe job.. Botchagalupe has no idea of what is going on, he just tries with out doing any hard research. . the tile work if it was perfect would still be ng. Look at the shower valve, wheres the rough in plate? How far back further should it have been?

[@keninespino821]

DYI are the most they are the ones tried to safe money and then put the blame on a tile guy most of times

[@gatoborracho4572]

Naaaa !! Seriously ??

[@nannyjones8756]

its a diy ive seen it all the time the homeowner blows it and blames someone else

[@gatoborracho4572]

You said that by your own experience?

[@adamcoyne230]

tijuana special

[@carlk2193]

Municipalities should impose permit acquisitions by homeowners as a poorly done shower is not only ugly but can pose health and safety concerns

[@leviledbetter]

No mudpack for the shower. Never seen concrete board in shower floor. Typically there is rubber membrane and a whole other install process for the shower floor. Which these homies seemed to skip.

[@ShaamoneHeeHee]

What a shame for the home owner

[@desertfish1460]

Tell me about it.. the guy I hired was recommended by someone who works at a local Home Depot.. I have to start all over and try to find someone to fix it.. I'm so upset over the money and time wasted, I can't stop crying.. :(

[@NativeNYerChicHK]

What’s NOT wrong? 😂 I laugh, but my stomach is in knots for that homeowner. I’m so glad they didn’t allow this guy to complete the job and then attempt to run water anywhere in this bathroom 😬 I wouldn’t even risk using the sink in that bathroom!!! Why take a job when you KNOW you have no idea what you’re doing?!? This is theft, he completed took their money and then laughed all the way to the bank. Looks like a child tried to remodel a bathroom alone.

[@BamaTony73]

Wow that looks terrible. I've only done 2 showers, 1 small one, one large shower, and a kitchen floor, and a bathroom counter top and my work looks like a tile god compared to that ugly stuff he did. Funny thing about it is I'm not even a tile guy, I'm a carpenter, painter, and sometimes roofer. Just started last year messing around with some porcelain, ceramic, mosaic glass, and river rocks and after seeing this I'll keep doing tile work. Nobody in a hurry does work this hideous. Top 5 worst jobs I've seen.

[@Valid7228]

Мексиканцы делали?

[@gatoborracho4572]

Homer Simpson did this job for sure 😅

[@csfb.c.f.c5416]

It was his 1st time tiling lay off the bloke lol

[@lildrakul1816]

looks good from my house

[@shaunwhitescousin3415]

The tile guy certainly was under skilled, but unless your the contractor who hired him this looks like this was a multi team project so error is miscommunication in the construction process. If an individual is responsible for this bathroom I find it hard to believe he made it that far in the project without knowing common sense. #1 is schluter products from Kerdi to shower pan and curb, and # 2 is if you don’t specialize in tile installs leave it to the professionals. If you are the contractor Shame on you for being a cheap skate and hiring a handy man. Know who your hiring, instead of paying Miguel 9 bucks and hour you never paid him only to sham him on KZbin for who the fuck knows why I watched your video

[@trippleslots]

Heard your comment about hardie backer notbeing water proof You may have to back up on that one. I spoke to a salesman and even ona DIY store question and answer section a rep states that the harie board is now water proof and needs no coating only seal the seams

[@noesalgado5038]

trippleslots I'm a general contractor. Yes that's true. But, the water proofing is done at the bottom and goes at least 24" inches around the wall. Mainly where the water hits and splashes onto the sides.

[@trippleslots]

Noe, Hardy backer has redone their product and it is now waterproof You only need to seal the seams and the screws holding it down or up No longer have to paint or lay a membrane under it That is what we were told when we started looking at material to do ours Still used a different product

[@uchooze1]

just use Schluter.. avoid the weight and waterproofing issues

[@Tako2e]

trippleslots 3

[@samuelstewart9877]

That was a run away helper

[@majorpain8620]

As soon as I saw what was on the floor I asked WHY?

[@stevenashe2882]

Never seen anything like it

[@robangles]

ugh man. ironic you are critiquing other people's work and it's definitely bad... but I'm a graphic designer, and the business card / logo design makes me sick to my stomach.... I can't understand why you would accept that level of branding?

[@StarrTile]

Because I'm an old guy who doesn't care

[@sophienelson6966]

Robbie Manuel Seriously? you watched the crap job this lame crew did and you want to troll this gentleman? is this how you win customers? StarTile.. I learned alot and felt your pain. thank you sir. I dont hire people based on a business card I hire them on experience. Thank you and i subbed.. :)

[@StarrTile]

And thank you. Sometimes I intentionally leave comments like that to stand on their own

[@danabennett7795]

Better way to ask is what do you right and that’s nothing

[@StarrTile]

Excuse me ?

[@gatoborracho4572]

What??

[@MarvinGenaro]

you get what you pay for...

[@Paul-fe2cl]

MarvinGenaro exactly! you cant pay a guy cheap and expect a top of line job.

[@jafetvargas1153]

That happens when PPL want to pay cheap

[@karenpayne3946]

Holy moly!!! What da hey!!!!!

[@Vaticider69]

Feel sorry for the customer.... very stressful...

[@arch953]

I agree. I have enjoyed many of your videos and I believe this is the worst!!!

[@cervezatorres5700]

I bet they didn't have the right tools either, it almost looks like they cut everything with an angle grinder.

[@lalorosiles9947]

Cheap can become expensive that is what you get

[@seekthtruth]

Omg thats got to be the worse

[@aaronowens356]

Always running into people that think they can tile when they find out I'm a setter. Problem is most people would think that was a good job until they see s real tile setter lay. I saw every mistake just as plain as day. A lot of shitty tile guys get away with that bullshit. Paying attention to detail is the number one rule once the tile is in place it's in place! So take your time and hire a professional. no offense a lot of Mexicans come down and fuck shit up.... Hell they don't know no better most of them had dirt floors back home.

[@grizrr]

i'm mexican and i've seen shitty jobs from every race trust me. been in the trade for 15yrs on a big company.

[@desertfish1460]

Nope sorry the loser I hired did worse.. I'm crying over the mess and waste of time and money..:(

[@jace1873]

U missed the very beginning where did t undercut door casings and a threshold transition strip probably wasnt necessary unless that wood floor was floating. What a mess