Starship Troopers (1997) Explored

Starship Troopers is a 1997 sci-fi action film directed by Paul Verhoeven, loosely based on the Robert Heinlein novel of the same name.
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[@Nogdog945]

Yes, yes I would like to know more

[@mattyboy3576]

Yes but that’s just one negative opinion in a sea of positive ones

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@frankhughes7053 the video is rly only about the first movie and its message, hence the addition of "1997" to the title. His quick summary of the book is rly all it takes. the book wasnt bad, but i wouldnt say it was great. Its literally just ricos recollections of training.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@urbanemordant4414 your not making any new arguments every other youtube comment professor hasnt made. And your just as bad trying to get points across with hostility. Gonna be hostile, dont expect others to listen to you. You'll figure that out as u mature in life. Good luck kid

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@urbanemordant4414 then dont start your sentences with "wtf". that is hostile

[@JeanLucCaptain]

guardsman, you are not to know more, you are to die in service to the EMPEROR OF MANKIND!

[@QualityMasters]

This movies CGI holds up today. We need a 2019 starship troopers movie

[@Tallos404]

We had an animated 2018 movie called Starship Troopers : Traitor of Mars.

[@keysersoze9258]

@@Tallos404 there's a ton of cgi starship troopers films non as good as the original tho. I think the extended universe has a couple of cgi series and like 7 movies

[@SgawCules]

What they need to do is make a proper live action sequel, unlike the 2 sequels which were absolute cgi trash

[@SgawCules]

The 2 animated films were pretty good

[@M_Pulse]

The funny thing is if they did a modern remake of this movie they’d ruin it with CGI

[@replicant97]

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP! Would you like to know more?

[@damienreyna5879]

No I don't want to know anything....🤣

[@srgforge2993]

"Clicks button"

[@TheZXKUQYB]

In tiny print: SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP is only true if you serve 2 years or more, other wise all offers are null and void.

[@talonabuser1072]

Eh thats what they are doing to some south american youths you know military service for papers

[@johnashley327]

Where do I sign up

[@S_Winegar]

Best line of the movie "It's afraid!" Just shows the nature of problem solving in the federation is carry a bigger stick.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

When you make yourself into a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

[@Jonabob87]

Isn't that the nature of problem solving in every nation that's at war, to make the other guys bend to your will on threat of violence?

[@KingAdamJ]

"-violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived."

[@hijiriyukari]

*likes Video* I'M DOING MY PART!

[@julianjimenez9726]

I'm doing my part!

[@theProphetofIrony]

*Likes Video* I'm doing my part too!

[@xdas11]

Like comment IM DOING MY PART TOO!

[@TheOrgil220]

Good one

[@foorebellion2009]

me with kid's voice: im doing my part too! *everyone chuckles*

[@013wolfwarrior]

-Fully automatic beretta, who wants to hold it? -Kids: me me me *Hands over rifle*

[@pxolau8878]

Fully automatic burrito

[@yoboikamil525]

Kid 5 minutes later : *boom boom* yee yee kill kill

[@Archer89201]

I think it is fully automatic Morita

[@emiliepelletier9850]

What's the worst that could happen anyway? :P

[@pacificblue5461]

Looks like the US took over the world

[@shainewhite2781]

Hard to believe it lost the Academy Award for Best visual effects to Titanic!!😂😂😂 Oh well!

[@nicobangoy7242]

I know right for it's time this was great

[@DaveDexterMusic]

Titanic looked incredible, not really a surprise.

[@joelayoub2774]

How on earth did i not realize Titanic came out in 1997. I honestly though it was a 2000's movie.

[@Plasmacore_V]

Of course it lost. Titanic was a drama. Starship Troopers is Sci-fi. And everyone knows SF isn't real art, and therefore can't win.

[@kompuglobalhypermega]

@@Plasmacore_V Oh yes. The infamous Sci-fi ghetto.

[@Exigent_Regal]

Here is the thing though. Starship troopers isn't fascist in nature. It's a hyper meritocracy if you actually read the books. This is evidenced by the central phrase. "Something given has no value." It's well known that in fascist governments, the strong are given more power by their strong friends. In a meritocracy you earn everything you have. It looks fairly fascist I'd admit. But the original author hated fascism and sought to create a universe where the most capable are the leaders. Which by logical progression means a military structure. An institution based on the merits of it's individuals defines the members of it's hierarchy. It's also not very fascist by the trait of it's information sharing. Fascists governments love to control and spin information their way. Starship Troopers does almost none of that. They do have the typical slanting of a bias entity, but no government is free of that so we can't really put them down for it. Starship trooper's federation makes no qualms about showing soldiers ripped apart on global television. You know exactly what you're getting into when you join the Mobile Infantry. This transparency is unheard of in fascist regimes. The film comes off as fairly fascist, but this is likely because I don't think the director truly understood the source material. he thought it was fascist, and made a fascist movie out of the medium. Perverting it's original intent.

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

I don't know about unheard of. Many governments use war to show the horrors that the enemy commits which is a good motivation to fight them. Not saying its just for fascist mind you, but its not unheard of. Then again, showing your enemy as a heartless killing machine is something many would do to show how evil they are, more so in a police state. Don't know about the books though, do you know how many are worth reading?

[@agentc7020]

Well I would call the federation a mix of political ideas, it has the traits of a meritocracy but it also resembles a fascist government, I mean the right to vote is given after service which is a way of pressuring that the government implies on it’s people, so for me the federation is a mixture

[@Alex13501]

I see no issue here, in my country, only 40-60% (it varies, depends on type of elections) even bother to vote. Some people just dont care or they think they are part of some "protest". I always wondered why i should be able to influence future of my country and people just becouse reaching the age of 18. Then again, i tend to be kinda meritocratic and through 4 years working with all kinds of people, i really dont feel giving people stuff for free makes their life better, at all. @@agentc7020

[@drakeford4860]

@@agentc7020 I think it's worth noting that the key phrase is "Service guarantees Citizenship" as opposed to the fascistic chant, "Citizenships guarantees Service." In Starship Troopers, Heinlein essentially fused Roman Republicanism with modern Democratic and Classical Liberal principles. All people are granted universal civil liberties and protections, with the one exclusion being universal suffrage. Even this, however, is hardly inaccessible, as literally anyone can perform the service required to earn that right and responsibility. As the doctor states when Rico is being examined, the only way you can be turned down for service is if you're mentally unfit to give consent. It doesn't matter whether your poor, rich, deaf, blind, paraplegic, quadriplegic, or trapped in the body of a pidgeon, if you're willing to do work on behalf of society, then they will find a way and place for you to do it- and that certainly isn't limited to positions in the military. Furthermore, it is implied in both the film and the books that in regards to personal wealth and wellness, your best choice was to maintain your natural status in the private sector, away from the pesky responsibilities associated with citizenship. Citizenship then, was not a gift, but a burden- one to be taken up by those with a sense of moral responsibility and the drive to support and mold society for the future. There's certainly a debate to be had over whether such a system would actually work or whether it would even be feasible to construct (Heinlein himself seemed to believe such a system could only result from the rebuilding of society following the collapse of a system built on excessive social planning and a lack of public responsibility), but it honestly is devoid of fascism all together. Heinlein himself absolutely loathed the fascist. He was actually quite the classical liberal in fact, being a particularly avid anti-racist and a strong proponent of individualism. Heck, he was even a mentor Ray Bradbury, author of the incredibly anti-authoritarian "Fahrenheit 451." The man literally invented the term "paying it forward." Pretty incredible guy, on the whole, and certainly a far cry from any sort of fascist. Now there are communist in Starship Troopers: the bugs. That should pretty well make clear his stance on them.

[@ianstradian]

I totally agree with your break down if the geopolitical structure of the book... My issue with the film is the lack of power armor, the planet fall or landing technique when the armor was put into a case that burned off during re-entry, we missed out on some very cool stuff. Then the other race of beings that seemed to have made a truce with the bugs, no mention of them in the films. The films never show how the hero thought he had lost his father only to meet his father towards the end of the book. Oh and Hollyweird loves a good love story which is not in the books. All in all I enjoyed the movie but the book and film share a title and a few lines,,, that’s it.

[@Alejandro_87]

One of the greatest re-watchable films ever. Up there next to Total Recall.

[@nobodieparticular5849]

u rite

[@mosser-wm3dx]

would love a remake that omits the love story

[@Alejandro_87]

@@mosser-wm3dx pffft what love story??, the only reason that shit happened was because Denise Richards was drop dead gorgeous back then and we all loved looking at her no matter what. The movie is perfect in every way. Not too serious, not too dark... the perfect blend of humor and horror. RASCZAK'S ROUGHNECKS!!!

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@Alejandro_87 she was hot, she was hot in the bond movie too. is it me or did her tits get smaller? she wasnt looking that great in the "Blue mountain state" tv show

[@weston407]

@@Alejandro_87 ironic that hers are the only bosoms we didn't get to see

[@PoketehRoke]

Think it's important to point out that Paul Verhoeven never actually read the book.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

it's also irrelevant seeing as the book was quite boring. the ideas were interesting, but the actual writing and plot(if u can call it that) left a lot to be desired. folks only freaked out about it back then because they were snowflakey as hell

[@Comintern1919]

@@mosser-wm3dx How is it irrelevant that a director creates a movie based on a book he never read more than a couple pages off, decides it's fascist, and makes a movie parodying it, when the society described in the book is anything but fascist? Just because you don't like the book, doesn't make it okay. No one cares about your opinion. It literally doesn't matter.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@Comintern1919 if no one cares, why did u take the time to bother trying to rebuke my opinion? interesting logic there

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@Comintern1919 should figure, some ppl just cant stand others.....thinking for themselves

[@Comintern1919]

@@mosser-wm3dx I didn't say no one cares about what you have to write, I meant no one cares about your opinion on the book in the context of whether or not it is okay or relevant or not for the director not to reads the book his movie is based on and parodies. Also, where have I implied I dislike you thinking for yourself or having a different opinion? I simply stated that your opinion on the book doesn't matter in the context of the OP Comment.

[@mattkent4397]

Actually in the book it’s stated that the Federation seized power after the Third World War when the governments of earth were either destroyed or overthrown by the people. And it was the veterans and soldiers of the world who formed the Federation.

[@skullking2247]

@@frankhughes7053 basically

[@bigronnie9629]

Everything is Feminist, Everything, is Marxist, Everything is Social Justice and you have to point it all out.

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

Not really. Political commentary of a situation that could really happen is not SJW shit.

[@TheHughgee]

Thats uuuuuuuh a pretty accurate description of the NSDAP post-ww1. So its definitely not a stretch to call it fascist at all

[@jamesoleary2476]

TheHughgee or really. Everything is voluntary and dissent and media are free.

[@hoplitethirtynine1487]

The death of Dizzy was one of the most emotional moments of the movie for me. I feel the first act of laid the foundations which made that event so significant and meaningful.

[@MrRed-cf6gk]

"At least I got to have you. 🤕💀"

[@blaze556922]

We can ill afford another KLENDATHU

[@alcapwn7622]

I like that despite the fascist overtones, the society depicted in the movie seems to be very egalitarian and has a lot of upward mobility for an average person. Race seems of little importance and there is even co-ed showers! No wonder the people of the Federation are content with their government. Everyone seems healthy, safe and happy.

[@bigronnie9629]

Yup

[@LionofCaliban]

Oh yeah. Wait till you read the book and you see just how little it cares about where from your from.

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

That makes sense if you took over the world, you would have everyone caring for each other or a least respecting them, to enforce unity. Mobility makes sense as well because other than voting or such, there is little reason to suppress others abilities. Of course, all we have to go off of is what we are shown, all we really got to see was a rich area and its people.

[@K05H]

Wait till you read the book! I saw the movie first and loved it. Then I heard there was a book and loved it even more. I also hated the movie for a few years after reading the original source but you will probably get over that part...

[@drakeford4860]

...That's mostly because the Federation isn't fascist. At all. It's a mixture of modern Classical Liberal Democracy and Roman Republicanism. Heinlein actually loathed fascist as much as he did communist. Poor bastard's been misrepresented to hell and back over the years.

[@sebsellers9290]

The gore in this movie alternates from weird to funny

[@Eli-akad]

e Estarce that was my first impression of this movie when I was 12. It was good movie to me, but it automatically stuck out as different

[@jjgarcia156]

Starship Troopers was the inspiration for Halo and the rest of the entire futuristic sci-fi military genre as a whole. It's a true classic and really amazes me how good it still is whenever I revisit it

[@subultimate]

FlimComicsExplained never fails to deliver..... Would you like to know more?

[@softback132]

i could hear the voice

[@beauglenn3596]

Eh, he didn't even bring up how the director didn't even read the book, and there for tarnished the entire idea. "Fascist this" and " Fascist that". The book isn't even fascist.

[@anthonywells5645]

“The only good bug is a dead bug. . .”

[@pyroteknik664]

Lol like that your dp is a dog, the guy who says that line was mad cause he lost one .😂

[@aarongerard7277]

How about exploring the movie Soldier starring Kurt Russell from 1998? Apparently it's supposed to be in the same universe as Blade Runner, as it was written by one of the co-writers of Blade Runner. It was also directed by Paul W.S. Anderson who made all the Resident Evil movies.

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Yes its one of my guilty pleasure movies, adding it to the list now, thanks mate :)

[@aarongerard7277]

You are most welcome!

[@Tzunamii777]

@ProToken 420 Also Alfred, in Gotham.

[@FXIIBeaver]

Except it isn't fascistic, people are allowed to own firearms, were allowed to own businesses, allowed to sell to who they wanted to. They could travel where ever they wanted to. A prime example of how non fascist they were is the extremeist mormons who set up a colony on a planet they thought had no intelligent life. They told the Federation they wanted to leave and the Federation said ok no hard feelings. The Federation is I would say the perfect form of Constitutional Republic. As a civilian you are free to come and go as you please. Citizens are capable of serving in a public position because they served their civilians by putting themselves in danger. Their responsibility if they survive they have a say in what goes on.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

nothing about fascism states u cant own guns. as long as u werent a jew, u could have guns in nazi germany

[@FXIIBeaver]

@@mosser-wm3dx no you could not own guns in germany. Civilians were not allowed to own guns. Neither in Austria when Germany took over.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@WorthlessVids no you could not personally own businesses. The government told them what to sell and who to sell it to. That is what socialist Germany was in the 30s and 40s.

[@FXIIBeaver]

@WorthlessVids I am not talking about china.

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Thats a good point Beaver! Im just going by what Verhoeven himself said he in the behind the scenes footage and interviews about how the federation in the movies was modeled around fascist governments of WW2

[@Archer89201]

This movie is one of my guilty pleasures

[@ernestoortiz1523]

Films described as Guilty pleasures implies the movies isn’t great. This movie was great.

[@xackk9198]

Same. But only the first one here. The others are BADDDDDDDDD. and not in a good way lol

[@adiahaalexander9359]

I feel this movie doesn't fall into that category because it's a legitimately good movie.

[@cwill102able]

Words cannot describe how much I love Starship Troopers, I watch it almost everyday and wish they would bring this back as a series. This will always be a marvel of a movie that you'll never get sick of watching.

[@geronimo5537]

then the rest of them came out and we were all left speechless

[@shainewhite2781]

First!!!! Yes!!!! One of my favorite sci-fi action movies of all time!!

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Same here Shaine!

[@pipesilva7907]

Me too

[@MattieD]

"They sucked his brains out." God BLESS you Mr. Ironside.

[@mrnobody1958]

It's not fascism. How is the freedom of the press and limited democratic enjoyment allowed if you serve the state for a short service completely voluntary fascist?

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@wingrchy8646 They are not counter to fascism. The citizens are the preferred class, just because civilians arent murdered on the streets does not mean they aren't a type of fascism. Your issue here is you think things always follow the same line, they do not. If your not a citizen, you are denied rights. You can call it enlightened fascism, where unnecessary oppression is counter to effective control. Don't be so strict, it does not help your argument.

[@stephencraddock6137]

Hmmm yes it's a difficult one " fascism" it sneaks up on ya, & before you know it your chanting with the rest of them !!! People go there whole lives never understanding what was done to them ! Makes you think Doesn't it ? Would you like To Know more ?

[@spencerevans8719]

"the film is an intelligent exploration of unchecked fascism" No it isn't. The director never even read the book. And the Federation isn't even fascist. Everyone is free to live their lives as they please and the government is held democratically accountable.

[@edmundscycles1]

Jesus H Christ you've never read the book have you lol

[@stardude2006]

Read the 1958 Hienlien novel. It's VERY different to the Verhoeven film. Rumour has it that a New film is bieng produced that is closer to the Original Novel. 💚👽

[@mosser-wm3dx]

the book was quite underwhelming but a new movie based on it could be great. as long as it goes further than the book did. the book felt like the 1st part of a series that never happened

[@stardude2006]

mosser 1989 You think the Novel was Underwhelming ?? Seems you missed the point of it. The Movie was Underwhelming because it was on a cheap budget and ended more like a WW2 war film with teenagers You need to read more and watch less movies If it was Underwhelming why did it receive a Hugo ? Ponder that.

[@tmcfootball96]

New film.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@stardude2006 You can make what assumptions you want, I did not enjoy it. Too bad that is counter to your opinion leftist

[@danbrew2487]

It's a pretty good book, buy the principle it promotes are fucking twisted. If they are making a new film that's closer to the source it's probably gonna be an unironic right-wing propaganda piece, and I hated battle for Los Angeles.

[@SaroDantra]

Yes!!! This is one of my absolute favorite films of all time! I am continually amazed at how tepid its reception was. I am gutted I missed it in the cinema, I was just a little too young at the time. But luckily for me it transfered well to Blu Ray so it was one of my first purchases. Awesome video!

[@simonriddick]

One of greatest of all time. It's just a good action packed sci fi flick that never gets old. I got it on blu ray recently and was surprised how good it still looks.

[@stuka80]

This videos assessment of the novel is way off, but entertaining nonetheless.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

how so? ive read the novel.......not rly much there

[@agentc7020]

stuka80 it’s not the novel damnit it’s the god dam movie

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@agentc7020 the fact that it isnt offends them. its quite childish

[@JO-sd8zy]

@@mosser-wm3dx no you haven't

[@jezebulls]

Not gonna lie, we boys watched it MAINLY for Denise Richards, but turned out to be one of the coolest movies for that time.

[@thesliveringsnake4133]

Not the best video, the movie has definitely got a load of tongue in cheek authoritarianism and propaganda but in neither the film or the book is their a representation of fascism. Conflating the ideas of the book with actual fascism is not helpful. Also way too much bug sympathy here 😂

[@K05H]

I was wondering how the Bugs could be noble? The slaughtered an unarmed Mormon colony and then launched a sneak attack without opening any channels for negotiation.

[@preoximerias7366]

I don’t know about you but Humanity is superior to any Xenos race, no matter how many legs they have.

[@ProjectShadoh]

Shame the next 2 films took a downward trend but the first is just pure gold!

[@OKG2000]

the third and second were so bad i like to pretend they arent real

[@henrikschmidt3964]

My theory is, that the film should be viewed as being 'made' BY the Federation as a propaghanda film in its time however long in the future it may be. Thus some of the acting and scenes are over the top at times - but would you expect different from a propaghanda film?

[@augiechiavuzzi4907]

Everything about this portrayal just urks me since everyone thinks since being run by a person who runs the military is fascism and all u need is two years of service to be a citizen and civilians have no hindrances as seen as Rico's dad was rich and cocky and saw the federation as a welfare state by granting citizenship to those who serve and it's easy to sign up and serve

[@nathanbruce1992]

The military running the country usually ends with authoritarian rule. I'd ask to name one modern country with a military government that isnt effectively a third world country in disarray

[@VoltZero83]

There's no fascism in the story. People just don't understand what fascism is. Confiuzing militarism with fascism. In fascism you have to serve in the military. In the story you have to by voluntary. Only this voluntary part make it impossible too by fascism. The direction didn't understand it either. Dictatorship is not the fascism either.

[@Oldmanflying]

True! People that never read the book will never see the other paths their were to citizenship

[@tmcfootball96]

Israel represents more of a fascist society than the Terran Federation considering the fact that Israel mandate Military service while military service is voluntarily in the Terran Federation.

[@espalorp3286]

Sorry Volt but you sadly aren't able to apply for a pinned comment as you haven't mindlessly repeated a quote from the movie. Please edit your comment and remove unnecessary nuance to reapply.

[@gur262]

It is fascism. Very much so, not purely, radically but yeah. Heard anyone dissent?

[@CountCalcium]

quick google search proves you wrong lmao.

[@blaze556922]

Yes, I would like to know more :)

[@Ajaxlynx]

you should do the Andromida strain mate awesome film deadly virius

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Yes its on the list mate, thanks :)

[@HoukaiBG]

Militarism is not fascism. There is a huge difference. Federation is disappointed :/ Just another proof why civilians are not allowed to vote.

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

They go hand in hand. Spain, Germany, Italy, Japan, and Brazil are good examples of such types. Not saying all militarism is linked with fascism, but I have never seen a fascist state that isn't militarized. Perhaps Im misunderstanding though.

[@HoukaiBG]

@@rustedgreatsword4902 'All thumbs are fingers, not all fingers are thumbs.' You obviously left some pretty big militarized countries throughout history - USA, USSR, China, Roman Empire, The Golden Horde... Only a country that doesn't respect itself will not have a military. ST takes place during a war. What do you want them to do? Submit to an extermination? And the book/movies play from a soldier's perspective. Pink unicorns is the last thing I would expect to see :D

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

@@HoukaiBG As i said hand in hand. Militarism is different than just having a military or a large military. Having your nation centered on it is militarism. I dont see how anything you said despuits that. And you drew a arguement from something i didnt even say. I didnt even challenge what you said either, just made an observation.

[@HoukaiBG]

@@rustedgreatsword4902 My bad.

[@jmonseur5322]

The government in the movie isn't even militaristic, it just happens to happen during a damn war.

[@SunTzu176]

"Fascism" Once again the book is not fascist and Heinlien never advocated Fascism. Honestly I don't know why I argue otherwise, its entered the public consciousness at this point, and even though its wrong people will argue the point to death.

[@mosser-wm3dx]

fascism and nazism arent the same exact thing. no 2 governments have to be the same to have the same named idealogy. communist russia and china are 2 completely different beast while both claim to be communist

[@pacificblue5461]

Michael Ironside's line delivery more than makes up for any other other cast's shortcomings

[@mattkent4397]

I would like to know more.

[@CrimsonSp33d]

Loved this movie as a kid, love it now as an adult. The book is really interesting as well and I still would like to see a faithful adaption that explored the ideas of the book without the tongue in cheek, but legitimate criticism

[@k-h6969]

God I love this movie. I watch it once a year. So glad you made this.

[@joshuathomas5626]

Even Ironsides real name is badass and perfect for the role.

[@sharkolegend7342]

'Epstein didn't kill himself' Would you like to know more....

[@TheOwlofAthens]

Starship Troopers isn't fascist, its a Roman style Republic. Also the bugs aren’t fascist they are communist, this can be seen in how bugs are equal. There are no soldier bugs leading other soldier bugs they are equal and do not operate outside of their Caste. Robert Heinlein even writes how effective the bugs are in war because they evolved to be purely communist. This is actually the first video you made which I have disliked.

[@Firstnamewastaken]

Much easier to call it fascist though, especially when you're not sure what fascism is.

[@necrofuryan5899]

@@Firstnamewastaken that got a lol out of me.

[@rustedgreatsword4902]

Not too hard to fail to see the difference, since both are the elite controlling the populace. As far as policies go, I don't see much of a difference, but its been as while since I had to study the Roman republic and compare to fascist germany. Does seem a bit petty to dislike the video for something like misidentification, since he makes a fair assessment on how he would se it so.

[@TheOwlofAthens]

@@rustedgreatsword4902 I suggest you watch Sargon of Akkad's video on it 'The politics of Starship Troopers' since he explains better than I ever could. And because I don't want to sit here banging my head against the keyboard.I take issue with this because not only does FilmComicsExplained demonstrate a lack of understanding of the source material but also fascism itself

[@espalorp3286]

@@rustedgreatsword4902 it's not just misidentification, it's more a symptom of a larger reinterpretation of what fascism is by political actors and it's in equal parts a symptom of uncritical thinking in the face of 'everyone said it, therefore', and it's everywhere. In the critics, in the audience, in the movie. It starts people off with the presumption that 'it's parodying fascism' and they build their arguments from there.

[@matthewbradley1609]

Well, I've got to say that even though the audience was obliged to side with the Federation, I was rooting for the Arachnids. At least they had some form of competence when it came to strategy.

[@luckylepp6609]

They also had a downright communistic society, complete with a hive mind

[@shainewhite2781]

It's a shame the film deviated from the source material, turning the final product into satire like RoboCop, where it doesn't take itself too seriously. Still, it's an enjoyable film from Paul Verhoeven.

[@turtle2720]

Verhoven also made RoboCop :) Book was waaay better than the movie... and I loved the movie :)

[@blackcape22]

Starship troopers the book was boring as all hell. Im glad the movie was nothing like it.

[@ihealify]

Once again, a total misrepresentation of the book's philosophy

[@nathanbruce1992]

Fiction usually sidesteps realism or gets to cut too many corners to be taken seriously as philosophy imo

[@thedoruk6324]

FilmComicsExplained *Doing his part !* :)

[@PR-qp8iz]

The Federation is not really a fascist government. It's a Rational Authoritarian regime in the political/social sphere, while libertarian/free market in the economic sphere. It's something we've never seen before and thus doesn't have a name but it's definitely NOT fascism.

[@RosieMode]

Love these videos, not specifically starship troopers, but just your channel’s content

[@RosieMode]

Frank Hughes and that’ll change my opinion how?

[@NoNameAtAll2]

8:00 Faults? I hope he made a thought that the film is made as a parody of propaganda too... 8:06 Noone gonna talk how your government is bad and discredits people in propaganda 8:08 In propaganda, the enemy must be "an evil force" and have as little characteristics as possible. The differeny types of bugs got into the film only because that's what normal people know from returning soldiers stories. Not much more than that 8:37 Noone can do that without a notice. Definitely without humans (that got to the other side of a galaxy in their conquest) noticing. And their anti-asteroid defended were turned off in the perfect moment. The film shows "official story" from the government, for better effect they showed the ship knowing about the rock but failing to tell others. (And conveniently, almost all crew died after being shot down)

[@NoNameAtAll2]

The worst part tho is always seeing same propaganda phrasing, "influence words" in videos/books talking about last 40 years of history... From both sides Even worse is to noticing myself using them History should remain neutral, I wish it was so

[@BrianOblivionB]

@@NoNameAtAll2 both sides... only 2? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@isaac3702]

FilmComidsExplain is doing their part, and yes, I would like to know more. Just remember: Everyone fights; nobody quits. Welcome to the Roughnecks.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

RICO'S ROUGHNECKS!

[@lilyeves892]

I would be willing to believe that the book isn't actually pro fascist. But like I've read the book and there are litteraly whole paragraphs where the author goes into great and loving detail on why he thinks Hitler was right

[@festivemutemain8996]

Wooo one of the 1st comments, I've waited for a starship trooper one

[@storminmormon]

VERY loosely based. The movie was terrible if you’ve read the book

[@hthytrgh]

One big contrast between the book and movie is that they never thought the bugs where stupid in the books, they had space ships, guns and complex tech.

[@User-sb6er]

Luv this movie...loved diz way more than carmen...still do

[@weston407]

I absolutely love this movie - I remember seeing it in the theaters with my dad and my younger brother when I was 11 and we all walked out with our jaws on the floor - the satire went over my head at the time but it has aged so well - the special effects were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of the time for 1997 - most of it still looks brand new in 2020!

[@dayman8892]

I found it interesting how pewdiepie shouted out this movie for the nine-year-old masses recently perhaps there is hope for humanity yet

[@thelastroman3177]

Just watched the arachnids video five minutes ago.

[@eclipse_7376]

There are other jobs in the universe of star ship troopers that grant citizenship i.e. Gov. Jobs, and the federation's built of volunteers that protect the rest of humanity outside the rule of the government. Would you like to know more?

[@rayguym33]

Do the Aliens from Battle: Los Angeles. Anyway love your channel

[@filmcomicsexplained]

yes they're on the list Raymond :)

[@sublimephoenix8860]

Are they there up yet????

[@jacobkobald1753]

They're called arachnids....bugs was a derogatory term

[@bennyjames7428]

It wasn't really fascist though...it was however militaristic

[@drakeford4860]

Well, if there's ever a time to be militaristic, it's probably when there is an army of giant alien space-bugs hell-bent on wiping your species off the face of the universe.

[@loonylenny]

I would take a look into Sargon of Akkad’s video that does talk about the politics of the movie and he points out that it’s not fascist but the opposite. Just look at it, I look at the movie a lot differently now.

[@georgemitchel23]

WWII... "You kill anything that doesn't speak English" Star Ship Troopers "You kill anything that has more than 2 legs"

[@Doxologyboy]

Coincidentally I just finished reading the book again yesterday. Fun film, interesting read.

[@ArcanicRain]

I loved this movie as a kid. Would you like to know more?

[@bryce.0162]

Man I remember watching this on a VHS tape. How times have changed...

[@SomeYouTuberGuy]

Honestly the *Federation* in the movie sounds like *EXACTLY like current communist China.* If you're not a party member you're a second class citizen.

[@grex951]

This movie was great for it's time. The concept was something new to me with scifi as a kid along with alien and star wars. Also could you look at the Film Anonymous Rex?

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Sure ankura! adding it to the list now, thanks :)

[@grex951]

@@filmcomicsexplained thank you :)

[@sorcererharmon1322]

Liking this video guarantees citizenship.

[@pills-]

This film is one of those movies that is becoming MORE relevant now than the time it was made. I hate 2020...

[@luckylepp6609]

Yes but lies in perspective. Who are the real fascists of today?

[@doubleot1984]

@@luckylepp6609 Starts with an A, a red one.

[@MrJcl666]

Just wait . 2021 is here and beijin biden commi is here :) you voted for it.

[@outlawtaylor3]

My dad worked on the hydraulic bugs. They constantly broke down and the production crew didn’t know how to fix it. So they employed my dad (oilfield supervisor) to fix the bug. His payment was 6 scripts 3 were the main actors scripts (with personal notes) and 3 were unused scripts. They were stolen sometime around 2002 by another oilfield employee.

[@TheSelkan]

The enemy cannot push the dislike, if you disable his hand.

[@greenpointpatriot9167]

Bug out! Great video without even watching it.

[@thesweetone]

In heavy metal 2000 michael Ironside plays a character trying to live forever. So when he yells "...you want to live forever?" I chuckle a little

[@BioHunter1990]

I love the Heavy Metal films. Lol

[@AegisRamble0]

The animated movies are so much better. They pay far more attention to the source material.

[@bryanirvine6169]

FYI, the military did not "rule" the federation in the book. You did have to have federal service in order to vote and participate in politics, military personnel did NOT have those rights until they completed their service.

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Thanks for clarifying that Bryan!

[@aurorajones8481]

Fantastic movie. Truly a cult classic.

[@fastmclaren71]

Ironside is and always will be Sam Fisher.

[@hazardduck]

Awesome analysis! As for the asteroid, I came to the conclusion that it was just a random event that the Federation attributed to and used as an excuse to go into war with the Bugs. Similar to the weapons of mass destruction that Iraq supposedly had that the US used as an excuse to invade Iraq.

[@patrickkenyon2326]

One more time. Chemical weapons ARE wmds.

[@poorimage3158]

@@patrickkenyon2326 Mustard gas isn't exactly a nuke, otherwise ww1 had the most wmd's used in any war

[@patrickkenyon2326]

@@poorimage3158 Mustard gas may seem mild, until you are puking up pieces of lung. And there are a lot worse chemicals out there. Nerve agents are a hoot.

[@softlightlaboratory]

More KZbinrs are talking about this Movie *"STARSHIP TROOPERZ"* hope it becomes a video games

[@Ken-no5ip]

Did this movie have the brainbug sucking the brains of one of the soldiers? That scene is just so satisfying

[@filmcomicsexplained]

Yes it did!

[@MontgomeryBarncaly]

Starship Troopers did nothing wrong

[@carlosfigueroa6821]

Best channel

[@SamStuart07]

Excellent film! The book is pretty good too. One point Mobile Infantry boasted they had better training than the private sector.

[@laurenced2916]

See you at the party, Richter

[@hazmatdude1420]

Whether or not you agree with him I feel like sargon had a great video exploring this series.

[@maclaintrepanier2511]

And knowing is half the battle G I JOEEEEEE..... *with a bloody background* “would you like to know more?”

[@genejohnson2834]

Sounds like a communist system to me

[@dwaytdheym881]

One of my favorite films 😊

[@noonewillreadthis2519]

* KZbin rewind 2018 * Everyone: *COME ON YOU DAMN DIRTY APES WANNA LIVE FOREVER!!*

[@mercon1337]

Sargon of Akkads video is the best refutation that starship Troopers is fachist

[@bigronnie9629]

Everything is Feminist, Everything, is Marxist, Everything is Social Justice and you have to point it all out.

[@greatgallade]

I'm actually getting annoyed with both feminist and those anti feminist I missed the days where they were disembodied heads poking fun at these idiots. Now it's all serious and crazy. I justed played games and listened to armored skeptic back when he was actually decent and his stupid girlfriend. And sargon before he was a know it all prick. And hunter before he became a wannabe edgy emo bitch

[@mosser-wm3dx]

@@greatgallade your assessment of sargon is spot on

[@K05H]

@@bigronnie9629 This guy get's it!

[@25aida]

The Federation's Military is basically the Imperial Guardsmen. Similarities: They both have Millions upon Millions of soldiers They both have basic combat armor They both have a basic full auto rifle They both are fighting on another planet They both are basically Cannon Fodder They both have tons and tons of people being recruited into their numbers every day.