Behringer Pro-1 vs The Original: The Definitive Comparison

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A review and demo of the Behringer Pro-1 analog synth comparing it against a 1980's original Sequential Pro-One
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Overview 2:48
Oscillator 4:34
Sawtooth 6:24
Pulse 8:12
Triangle 11:07
Sync 11:51
Noise 14:03
Filter 14:35
Envelopes 19:12
LFO 20:34
Modulation and FM 23:35
Glide 29:04
Poly Mode 29:45
Conclusion 30:12
Some Sounds 30:48

[@BaddaBigBoom]

It has mono mode, poly mode and Depeche Mode.

[@danielfaraday8197]

😂

[@Vincefromsin]

💜

[@Just_lift_anyone]

😍🤣🤣

[@BaddaBigBoom]

@@Just_lift_anyone I just can't get enough of how good this synth is!

[@humanchannel7825]

@@BaddaBigBoom it gives a new life to this synth

[@AlexBallMusic]

Sounds incredibly similar and more importantly sounds great, which is why people love the Pro~One. I've got the original but think it's awesome that a synth that is otherwise discontinued is back and people can get their hands on them.

[@JayKaufman]

What doesh that Dutch funk guy shay?

[@geertvanschlanger8057]

@@JayKaufman I am preferring the schound of the Odysschey.

[@fjfrancois]

Overview 2:48 Oscillator 4:34 Sawtooth 6:29 Pulse 8:12 Triangle 11:07 Sync 11:51 Noise 14:03 Filter 14:35 Envelopes 19:12 LFO 20:34 Modulation and FM 23:35 Glide 29:04 Poly Mode 29:45 Conclusion 30:12 Some Sounds 30:48

[@intromix]

Thanks for the chart,, I own the original and I’m very tempted to buy the Behringer. What’s your thoughts on this comparison video, would you say it’s 1:1?

[@ZZKJ396]

Another great review form an obvious synth lover. Keep up the good work bud!

[@shogunai]

The craziest part of this video is that the couple of times I did notice a difference, I actually thought the Behringer sounded slightly warmer in the low end. 100% buying this little badboy. I can't wait for 10 years from now when people have forgotten about it being cool to hate on Behringer and you can pick up second-hand, authentic sounding, analogue synthesisers for the price of a round of drinks. What a time to be alive! :D And as always, fantastic comparison.

[@XanderEwald]

I don’t think „warm“ is a sonic quality that many original users of the Pro-One particularly desired though. It’s much more associated with the „cold“ and aggressive sound of 1980s genres such as electro, techno, wave, industrial, EBM and the such.

[@Beatsmith2005]

I am SO ready to watch this. Couldn't be more ready. Thanks!

[@raveagainstracism]

mine is getting here tomorrow. Really looking forward to this one. It sounds fantastic.

[@doktorhulk]

such a thorough walkthrough! thx! I'm all in

[@RiccardoCoen]

You rock, greatest ever reviews and comparisons

[@zoundsic]

I recalibrated my pro one last year, had it from new, bought in 82. Think I did a recalibrate in the early 90's, but took my time this time and made sure it was spot on, which is really hard work with sensitivity of the tuning and scaling pots. What a difference to the sound though, never sounded so good.

[@thomasmorus3406]

Thank you very much. I really enjoy watching your videos and I have learned a lot in the progress! BTW: I like your sense of humor :-)

[@ksqmusic]

Amazing video once again. Thank you for these comparisons. :)

[@Flashlight242]

Thanks for your work. This is indeed really impressing. Need to check with my Pro-One as well since I know that also the SCI P1 Series differ amongst each other.

[@pushpull76]

Beautiful comparison, thanks for sharing!

[@dep1001]

Great vid! Actually incredible that Behringer gets it to sound pretty much exactly like the original! Cheers

[@jakobk5558]

always happy to watch one of your videos

[@MicroBanshee]

Excellent info and video, I just got my Pro-1 yesterday and am loving it, I had access to a Pro One back in the 80's [band mate] I had forgotten how big they were!! BTW Thomann are now sending UK plug adapters for UK bound purchases, but I'm sure that they did that as a rule anyway, I only mention it because I noticed on your intial PRO-1 vid that you didn't get one.

[@luisparabellum8887]

Without pretending much , a honest side to side comparition , good video and review. defenetly buying a Pro1 .

[@nik_elektrik]

Thank you, sir! Your excellent video made me buy the Behringer Pro-1 along with the RD-8. I must say I am very happy with both. Keep up the good work!!!

[@lordundhimself1310]

Damn, those must sound so good together

[@obwanz1921]

Another brilliant review! Think I’m just gonna watch all of them! 👍

[@nalaeel219]

New viewer here, and new sub! Excellent comparison. Great demonstration. Already have mine ordered. Thank you!

[@HugoDaSilva7]

I think you make the best reviews out there, thanks

[@ashleyhaller]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to do these. I’d love to see another one, comparing them both to the u-he Repro.

[@Tremorgier]

ashleyhaller He has u-he vs Pro-1 video, if you havent seen it yet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWHQZZJrhZmrfK8

[@brentvalleywhag3477]

ashleyhaller Add the Toraiz AS-1 in there too!

[@timbeaton5045]

ashleyhaller have a SC Pro-One and the U-He Repro. They both sound great, and remarkably similar. Except that I have one ProOne, but as many Repros as my CPU can handle. And it has programmable patches. And doesn’t need an unreliable midi cv converter. Or require contacts to be cleaned from time to time. Or have keyboard bushes that deteriorate over time. Bottom line. On its own it sounds great. In a mix it sounds great. And it’s $149 .

[@chrismitchell3283]

I really didn't want any more synths, but after watching this very informative review...I'm sold. How true (& ironic) about the build: I had two Pro One's back in the day...Compared to my CatSRM, they felt quite flimsy indeed and required somewhat frequent technical assistance. All that said, the Pro One is still my favourite monosynth.

[@elissitdesign]

I want this one now too! My K2 and 808 arrives on Tuesday.

[@gntmschedule4288]

awesome comparison, i'm sold...thanks!

[@MarcWeertsMusic]

Great video! Fun presentation style as well!

[@bLiNdEDM]

excellent, thanks for making this!

[@KevinArdala01]

Sounds great, can't wait to get one!

[@iceskywill]

Awesome demo, nice job

[@chakko007]

This is absolutely amazing. And I'm really picky about such A/B comparisons.

[@tffshtt]

yes, very useful, thanks! It's great to hear you laughing the whole way through...sounds like it was fun and that's what it is all about...

[@666JGNotts]

Cheers for another great video mate

[@davidhrivnak]

It's amazing how close these sound to each other. I've always been a vintage synth guy, but my Pro-1 arrives tomorrow, and I can't wait!

[@maxtwentynine5968]

So how is it ? Is the Beringer any good or is it a toy ? Does it sound is good as in this demo now that you’ve got one ?

[@Arcessitor]

@@maxtwentynine5968 What do you mean a toy? I hate people who use that word to describe literally anything.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Congrats on passing the 10k barrier. Trust me you deserve such a bigger following.

[@st0rmchild]

Agreed. Definitely one of the best synth channels on KZbin.

[@AlexBallMusic]

Yep, 10k is criminal for someone who puts in this amount of work on behalf of everyone else. But then, 10k is actually surprisingly difficult to achieve so hats off.

[@cellardoreproductions]

agreed

[@jrlx86]

Adamski A. Seen your comments dotted about YT. Junglist? I just checked out your channel - the diy analogue synth sounds really nice. Well done.

[@Rompler_Rocco]

Just gotta say, I love your comparisons 👍

[@OneHalfOfBent]

Great review, thanks!

[@digitalimusic]

Great channel. Great synth.

[@attilassimcorner5277]

Thx mate for this nice video i am happy that Behringer build this affordable synths.

[@cnltaf4532]

Yet another great rewiew

[@johnsymcox224]

Thanks for that ... great side by side .. possibly the best clone so far by ULI ... I bought one myself ... very versatile for a mono .... first thing I did out of the box was create the patch for Yazoo “ don’t go “ 😂😂

[@payt01]

Ironically that was made on an ARP 2600 :)/ Not to worry though, Behringer sell those as well :)

[@cybernitemusic]

Great video. I’m so happy with mine 🙂

[@mikeconquest5981]

Really good demo mate, no nonsense, just the guts of whats what... Seems behringer are really intent on delivering quality affordable products.. Id be super interested to see them start churning out some samplers.. 12bit mangling machines yes please !!

[@walkermcneill8223]

ASR10 CLONE PLS

[@leftmono1016]

My wife made me watch this video with the sound off :) Joke’s on her though, I still want one!

[@JohnDoe-bm9wy]

Easy fix. Just put your PC farther away from the kitchen.

[@jazzblasterrr]

I thought I was the only one!

[@45rpm.]

We heard the same amount of difference between the synths as you did.

[@damondarkwalker]

hahah! Why do they act like we should sell our old gear in order to buy new gear?!

[@streetshooters]

My wife said the same thing. Maybe it's a wife thing....just saying :)

[@Knoc_Whearity]

Loved that......... i really dig my Pro1........ Hey, It's Knoc from FB......... loving the vids tonight dude....

[@SynthgodXXX]

Fits my budget right off the bat, the sound is awesome! Looking forward to this! December, maybe? I will wish for one from Santa this year! ;) A+++++++++++++++++++++++++

[@decimal1815]

That pulse width sounds gorgeous. Really looking forward to a poly version of the Pro-1. Should be worth the wait..

[@StarskyCarr]

can't wait for some of the behringer polys too actually hit the market. Interesting times..

[@Max_Relic]

It's an almost accomplished replica of the SCI Pro-One, apart from envelope generators. What I found testing 3 units is they are ok on the short side but not so much on the long side: Filter Env Attack barely reaches 3.6 seconds, Decay 13 s, Release 28 s; Amplifier Env Attack 6.5 seconds, Decay 18 s, Release 32 s. I sent a video to Behringer support and they replied this is "as expected".

[@darrenlee1938]

This is the one! I’ve had the model d, neutron, ms-1, crave, but this one just does it... made no noise when I got it, but a few seconds of dialling in, and I already had a great fat sound. I knew it would be good, but this is my favourite B clone so far

[@TheDddkkk]

funny, i owned all of them too and already sold them again as they suck big time. pro one is the only good one.

[@jameshenderson2863]

This is so exciting. I foolishly sold my OG Pro-1 in 1999. Thought I could just build another in the Nord Modular...Been longing for another ever since. As much as I love the original, it had one of the crappiest key beds ever. Can't wait to get this guy:)

[@klonhead]

thanks for the video! really good series of comparisons :)

[@sourcecompilestudios3554]

damn behringer is killing it..great demo..thanks~!!

[@cymonalex]

They are incredibly close ! Like you, I have the Original, but this maybe closer than the Model D's you reviewed? Nice work....

[@johma808]

stunning close!

[@tadknuf7979]

Wasn't interested in the Pro-1 till now. This vid completely sold me!!

[@StarskyCarr]

It really does sound excellent

[@montorgueilrecords]

Excellent! as usual! I need to buy me one ! 😃

[@steve5903]

Really,really takes me to that era!The early 70s late 60s,moving studio sets and raw,screeching,droning sound effects.-in a good way of course.Cheers.

[@paul_ward_music]

Thanks for that. Looks like another for my mobile rack! I suspect your Pro-One seems to have been calibrated wrongly at some time in its history. Mine is in tune with tuning at near 12 o'clock and the oscillator tuning knobs around 12 o'clock. That would sort out the sync range restriction you mention. Also, I'd suggest you don't get your original's keyboard 'fixed', but instead replace it. There's a chap on the net who supplies modern replacements. Both of my originals have new keyboards now and they make a huge difference to the playability of the synth.

[@LousyFacelift]

Well I thought I had detected a noticable difference in sound when it was really just me breathing out through my nose in the exact same moment you were playing a note on the Behringer... twice in a row!

[@BIG_PASTA]

lol

[@ifincstudios]

😂😭😂😭

[@urwholefamilydied]

35:29 nahhh... I'm not a snob at all when it comes to tone, but the "Only You" intro is night and day... not just slight volume mismatch. The original is just a little thicker all over this video. And trust me... I wish they were identical. I have no problem buying a clone or ripoff of anything.

[@JasonOzolins]

Latecomer I know but at 31:55, it seems like the Pro-1 square LFO resets to positive at key press, whereas the Pro-One LFO is starting on negative when the note is triggered. Great video, thanks for being so thorough - a lot better than trying to recall how mine sounded back in 1986! At least yours doesn't have scratchy pots. :^)

[@ogasi1798]

BLOODY ELL EH ! Who would have thunk it? Well i think we knew really, those of us happy to admit at least. Top stuff fella

[@TheStudeo74]

Now that is what we needed !

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

I have one of these and cannot believe the filter, man its a monster. But that cv and gate in man what a drag.

[@eon6969]

This is a funny comparison :) Big Like!

[@Flying_Karsten]

thx for this!

[@Pulse2AM]

I bought the Pro One when it came out and always had a Korg guitar tuner plugged into it to tune it as it drifted a lot.

[@Mooli]

My first synth and always regretted selling it, so its amazing that this copy is so close to the original

[@horder2344]

Very helpful vid thanks - for a layman like me these are so educational - plus it meant I got my Pro 1 up and running nicely. Is there any chance you could show us some of the settings to recreate those classic early 80s sounds like Yazoo's 'OnlyYou' at the end? - cheers

[@lundsweden]

Great channel, Starsky Carr. You are the synth nerds synth nerd, meant 100% as a compliment! What I enjoy most is your love of synths, going right into the details (yes!) and fun, none detracting from the other! Both synths are beautiful, love the Behringer especially, I like the size, rack mountability, quality that comes from mass production, MIDI, reliability. As for Sequential, thank you for making the original synth 40 years ago. Many if us still appreciate this in 2021. Sequential are a great company, really like the direction they are going in too with the Prophet 6 and new Prophet 5 revision 4.0. Who would have thought back then in 2021 there would still be new reissue PRO 1s being made and new Sequential Prophet 5s? I believe there is room in the market for all these synths (and more). I love plugins AS WELL, especially have a soft spot for TAL synths, great small developer with a great sound. What a great time to be alive and be into synths of all types, brands and price ranges!

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks.. and it certainly is a great time for us 😀

[@AndyVonal]

Thanks Starsky, for a brilliant video. My own Pro-One needs a lot of work (new keyboard, new power supply - I get a lot of mains hum, and a good clean). It'll cost a lot! It makes more sense to me to get one of the new Behringers. It's simply stunning how good it sounds. I was in a group which had two pro-ones and they sounded different to each other so I am amazed that this new one sounds so close to an original - almost impossible to tell them apart.

[@StarskyCarr]

The main thing I noticed was it’s so much easier to dial in a patch on the original. You can get there with the Behringer, but the smaller knobs require a bit more precision and time to get exactly what you want.

[@SerErris]

Obviously you do not want to get rid of your pro-one, right?

[@AndyVonal]

@@SerErris Not quite yet... I'm not "precious" about things and if the Behringer proves reliable and up to the job then I might consider selling it, even in it's poorly state. I need to find out just how much it will cost to get it back to it's best before I make a decision.

[@kierenmoore3236]

Just put bigger knobs on the Pro-1 … ? 😏

[@alejandrohualdez5550]

Before watching this, I only wanted the Behringer Odyssey and the Model D. Now I want the Pro 1 as well.......so thanks for that mate....really helpful!!!

[@johnvcougar]

LOL, he's good like that. I had a similar problem, took care of it by doing just that, lotsa modules!

[@mattg082]

I got the model d when it came out on pre order. It's def worth it! I was very use to my ms20 and 2 different synths. But the model d can sound huge and is a great synth. I have too many mono, but this pro1 clone will be my next!

[@Skootavision]

Fantastic comparison. I watched and also looked away. Wow! I can hear the Moog’s and Roland clones as being different (but great all the same) but this is wow. I’m glad you articulated one thing I thought which is your ability to tweak them on the fly. Matching positions on pots doesn’t tell you about sonic similarities IMO, more design ones. Subscribed, thanks lots

[@angusrokstad4052]

Great video. Tnx😀👍

[@iqi616]

Double-triggering and dead notes are the problems I have with the keyboard in my 1985 Clef B-30 Microsynth. I'm refurbing it and adding a board to mod it for 1 V/oct so I can use external controls.

[@insidesound]

Wo0oW ! awesome synth !! Many Thanks for your Comprehensive review

[@robertlane1197]

Thank you sir

[@mubodude]

Mine finally came off backorder and should be here by Christmas Eve! I love these clones. Happy with the Model D. Thinking Wasp next or the K-2 simply because I can barely read the graphics on the Korg MS 20 Mini and the Behringer's look bolder. Great little controller there. Is it mounted in a rack or just positioned that way? Sorry if it's already been discussed in the 324 comments. Cheers!

[@Flying_Karsten]

nice work

[@GNeuman]

James Walker from Synth Repair Services is absolutely superb. He did a wonderful job on straightening out the keybed on my Model D a few years back....he's based in Stoke on Trent, so I'm guessing not too from you. I had to send him the keybed from Switzerland where I've lived since 97....(still a Manc at heart though)

[@NativeLayer]

He is brilliant, he sorted out my TB-303 for an incredibly reasonable price. New resonance, Switches and fitted the midibass 2 mod for less than £100.

[@MarkVNash]

Great video. I think the original sounds a smidgen better but not enough to worry about. I'm hopeful the small knobs on the Behringer don't take too much away from the joy of working with it.

[@miikasalo]

I think so, too - almost identical in a mix, and I think the original sounds better (mostly) because it's *old*, it has some more harmonics and variation in sound

[@JohnDoe-bm9wy]

What osc software is this? It looks very smooth and modern.

[@DOOMJESUS]

I SOLD OFF MY ORIGINAL A DECADE AGO AND KICKED MYSELF FOR IT EVER SINCE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THE BEHRINGER IS IDENTICAL IF NOT JUST A LITTLE SWEETER. I FINALLY PICKED ONE UP THIS WEEK AND NOW I AM ALREADY READY TO GRAB A COUPLE MORE. LOL

[@jefferyswan4401]

What software / interface are you using for your testing?

[@cyanmemory6579]

what oscilloscope program are you using?

[@NickHowesAstro]

You're costing me a fortune :-) great video (Well Behringer are)

[@zanderxymox]

I just bought my Pro-1, can't wait for it to arrive in a couple days!

[@jannegustavsson4177]

I have the same set, and its Wonderful!!! CV and amazing!!!

[@TheNimasan]

it cant get any closer...great synth, that is, pro 1....might be their best clone yet. i love mine!

[@dannypqliar8763]

Why is the filter on the Behringer slightly more closed than on the Pro-1? It's either that, or they're just really that different...

[@nevian]

My only question is; what are Behringer using for EGs? The original used CEM3310's, and Behringer have already cloned the oscillator and filter chips but what of the EG?

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

I believe they are digitally generated somehow, what magic they used to do so is beyond me.

[@LouisSerieusement]

You are right to mention that 40's yo synth doesn't sound the same at the begining of their life ; that's why when you compare a RE-303 or a good diy X0XB0X with a TB303, the old TB sound "duller" (not bad though XD), when the value of the components used in the RE and X0X are measured to match "exactly" the original, that's the main reason imho that they sounds differents ; Thank you for your work, and glad your channel grows !! You deserve it, you are very good at comparison and you have good taste

[@ArthurElectric]

Only the RE 303 is a replica...

[@LouisSerieusement]

@@ArthurElectric both the RE and the X0X are diy synth so the quality depends on who build it and with what ;

[@ArthurElectric]

TheOrangepeak no xoxbox is a clone and RE303 is a replica...

[@benmast7089]

WOW! indeed never had a pro 1 for myself btw. Great Job Behringer. If you still looking for a synth tech Markus Fuller? 😁 Thanks for the vid.

[@douglasb.5601]

Great review..can't believe how similar they sound.👍🏻 The only dissapointment was the 'Only You' tone where the Behringer sounded a little dull (to my ears). I'm sure it's just a knob size issue....er...🤣 Just wish these had patch memories..patch sheets are a pain.

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks.. the only you sound is so difficult because of the interaction of the filt env amount, cutoff and reso settings plus keyboard tracking. Add that to the amp env and I just couldn’t nail it. On the OG it took seconds - I know folks talk about knob size being a real issue for them, but it’s never got the better of me before... just this one pesky patch!!! Also, I thought the Behringer may have had slight variations in the tone as the arp played which wouldn’t normally be an issue - but when matching exactly can send you insane (it may not even have been happening - just my ears playing tricks) - so after a few attempts I left it where you hear it before I started chewing the carpet.

[@douglasb.5601]

Starsky Carr Hey...you get a 10 out of 10 for effort.👍🏻😎 I think I may have to get one of these as I always wanted a Pro 1 when I was a teen...and had to settle for a Red SH101 as it was about £150 cheaper. Can you store the current patch settings as sys ex?

[@StarskyCarr]

Douglas B. Hah thanks... No it’s very much a replica of pre-MIDI tech. Non of the knobs send or receive MIDI. There’s a Behringer app I’ve never used for changing legato modes and key priority (I think!) but that’s about as far as MiDI implementation goes.

[@douglasb.5601]

Starsky Carr Thanks for the info..it's a shame they didn't charge an extra £50 and add midi sys ex and a 100 patch memory...maybe they're saving that for the Mk.2! 👍🏻😁

[@sub-jec-tiv]

Making it programmable would mean adding a digital control layer to it, and it is then not the same instrument at all. It would also increase the price, and people who don’t know what they’re talking about would be angry it costs too much. People are incredibly spoiled now. In any case, this synth is so simple and easy to use (yet deep) that if you have practiced at all with subtractive synths, you should be able to dial up anything you like within 20-30 seconds. There are reasons this is a classic, and one of them is the absolutely stellar ease of use.

[@The_Invisible_Man]

Does the gate input work?

[@HornieCow]

Goldfrap intro, TAKE MY LIKE! :D

[@StarskyCarr]

HornieCow haha thanks :) there’s actually a 1970s track with exactly the same synth bass line but I can’t remember what it was .. maybe someone will add to the comments.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

@@StarskyCarr Was it a track by , " Blondie" ? , it does sound familiar .

[@StarskyCarr]

Adamski A. I was thinking of the rah rah band track called the crunch. Just found it and it’s got the same rhythm but it’s not identical. Look it up on KZbin... I saw it on a totp rerun very glam rock!

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

@@StarskyCarr Ahhhh yes I hear it now lol ✌🏾✌🏾

[@Protoxy]

Thanks you very much

[@djphootz]

Hi! Loved your comparison. How does it compare in terms of sonic weight to the original??? To me they sound the same, but are the sonics full, like the classic from Sequential?

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks, tbh they sound the same. The only difference that can be a bit annoying is the resolution on the envelopes.. sometimes I can't quite get the exact length of short puncyh arps _ like the Yazoo sound I demo near the end. I'm still not 100% convinced they're analog envelopes. .. But sonically you can't separate them.

[@jackonearth]

I haven’t had the chance to play an original Pro-One but I’d say the main difference between the two for me as a hands on player would be the lack of an available keybed with 37 keys that compare to the original. I’d really like for Behringer(or sequential) to release a full sized version. Other than that, the Behringer Pro-1 is by far my favourite synth at the moment.

[@StarskyCarr]

A full sized version would be a winner!

[@boomster64]

Another great vid! Wonder how it would compare to a sub37.... :)

[@ebbewertz3417]

A question for the pro-1: Does the external Input go though the filter, lfo and envelopes just like the oscillators? Because would that make it possible to use (polyphonic)samples, played on a computer with midi keyboard, to replace the oscillators (and still trigger the envelope by connecting the same midi keyboard to the synth but with both oscillators mixed to zero)? (also, I suppose it wouldn't get additional noise to my input since it uses the same knob on the mixer, or does it? Please let me know.

[@StarskyCarr]

Yes, but it needs to be at eurorack level, which is a much louder duh al than most stuff. Plugging in a standard audio out from something will be far too quiet.

[@andrewverran6998]

They sound pretty damn close to me !.