Starter Characters Only: 4.7 Spiral Abyss

[@TurtleCamera]

Important Note As mentioned in the community post, I unfortunately had to stop after 1,727 resets to avoid burnout and focus on my M.S. thesis. Instead of showing a continuous 12-1 run, I'll present a theoretical 3-star clear by combining footage from 12-1-1 and 12-1-2, which together have a combined time of around 2 minutes and 56-57 seconds. I had to stop before it took a toll on my mental health, so I hope you all understand. Thanks for your continued support!

[@antoniogabriel6461]

No one can blame you, I feel burnout after 5 attempts 1700 I couldn't handle it.

[@Entropy383]

unlimited abyss works i see

[@Daivd1111]

Man I hate this abyss so much, it took me many hours and many different team tries even with 5 stars. You are so good at the game, I can't even imagine doing it using 4 stars, let along starter character!!!

[@duongbahieu6679]

I lost my humanity after 200 reset and here you are with 1700+ 🎉❤❤ U are so amazing

[@fogipl2024]

don't fucking ever force yourself to do anything that can affect your mental health, no one will blame you for that, ly

[@Leite_01]

100% confirmed that i definitely have skill issues

[@Robin_marie]

Same babe

[@steph4u74]

so do I. more than 3 years playing the game now i can't clear abyss floor 12-1 always skill issue problem. no power can help me with my skill issue. hahahah

[@SemprolPentol]

1,727 resets

[@gergokerekes4550]

or you just do not C6 chars with R5 weapons and 0.01% relics.

[@Giebachii]

Or crappy artifact rolls 🤷

[@paulodomes9335]

Hoyoverse owes you therapy.

[@bomboyisbak9807]

My dumb ass with neuvillete and a crippling skill issues tried 3 times before deciding I dont want those 50 primos, I cant even begin to comprehend 1700+ resets. The video was a goddamn pleasure to watch and you've earned my respect.

[@mika-tu6ld]

what neuvillette team did you use? i tried again using arlecchino vape first half and neuvi taser (just neuvi, furina, kazuha, fischl) and managed to clear 9*

[@chokoratto4515]

Its no longer 50 primos, last 3 stars reward is 100 now. 200 in total in each floor but resets only per months

[@MeiPhem]

Wep you have the exact same problem as me

[@butter5144]

🫵😂😢

[@ping-x7m]

dont worry. I rarely go past floor 11. I maybe try once or twice for floor 12. I’ll take whatever i got at the end of the run. Not finishing abyss with 36* is absolutely okay. I play genshin just to have fun, and not stressing myself over doing the same thing over and over again. Its not like anyone gonna be mad at you for not completing abyss with full star or dealing a trillion dmg

[@hehe-gx9xz]

When I saw you use Anemo Traveler on the last chamber, I was convinced this took many tries. As I checked the comments, goodness gracious 1727 resets??? 20 resets already make my blood boil and stop. I can't imagine 100, not even a thousand

[@ngtrietlam]

You are really a nightmare of Hoyoverse.

[@TechGamerAndHacker]

Nope, doing c6 a 4 star character is really expensive

[@ngtrietlam]

@@TechGamerAndHacker It is the reason I tell he is a nightmare.

[@gergokerekes4550]

@@ngtrietlam a whale who pays way too much? what nightmare is that? it is the goal of them to milk stupids like that.

[@stephaniemay5216]

@@TechGamerAndHackerstarter 4* characters should be very easy to c6 by now.

[@gilded-lily]

Not really, Keaya, Amber and Lisa are never on any banners so the only way to get them is through the shop.​@@stephaniemay5216

[@spamuel6160]

This is actually one of the best abyse videos because your describing why your doing things instead of just clearing the floors, I actually learned things about certain enimies that I didn’t even know and I’m ar 60

[@spamuel6160]

Edit: I don’t usually have trouble clearing the abyss but I do enjoy watching outer clear it, especially videos like yours keep up the good work

[@sikuaq1035]

1,729 times??? how did you count that?? 😭 it is not in vain though, my face was glued to the screen in awe. this is absolutely amazing

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍! The Battle Chronicle in HoYoLAB tells you how many battles you’ve done in the Spiral Abyss.

[@juliansoriano8283]

You can see in your abbys record how many fought you are

[@Miko627_]

This is amazing; I was struggling to get 36* in the abyss. This is honestly amazing work (also, 1700+ resets is amazing, considering the dedication and patience you need to have for that🙏🤧).

[@castallyourspells]

you are terrifying 😭absolutely insane shows of skill and dedication

[@Inj2Moves]

Actual Art right here guys. Its so beautiful.

[@htsandw4496]

You are amazing, I myself needed 206 resets for 12-1 with my 5 stars. There is is so much RNG involved: if drakes get resistance before you kill them you might as well reset, if samachurl stuns you with his vines you might as well reset, if lector doesn't stagger and gets pushed to another fast enough you might as well reset, if they get separated during shield phase you, if serpent knight do random stuff etc... THIS IS INSANE CHAMBER. Congrats on clearing, even a theoretical clear is impressive

[@sedef4515]

206 resets?? are you feeling okay 😭 i would've lost my sanity

[@Kangoshi_ru]

I didn't count the number of resets, but it took me a few hours.

[@htsandw4496]

@@sedef4515 I nearly lost mine too, my unbuilt lv 20 Mona I never used saved me here with her water dash, otherwise I would never 36 star this abyss with Furina as my only built Hydro

[@sedef4515]

@@htsandw4496 we need more 4 star hydro units fr

[@vvkeqing]

@@htsandw4496is ur xingqiu not built? you should build him!

[@viewsloo581]

These runs from you guys are just insane. Whenever I watch one of your videos, I always realize that I have a massive skill issue. 3 thumbs up!!

[@TurtleCamera]

👍

[@Aeondrew-]

Absolutely insane. This might be the hardest Abyss we've gotten yet (I say that a lot don't I XD) and you're still managing to clear with the starter squad :O Have a rest, you've earned it lol I definitely think your videos are something everyone should consider watching for this Abyss, even if they don't do starter-only runs, just because of how helpful the tips are for dealing with enemy behavior

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍! I’ll also be making a post about clearing Chamber 11-1 using the starter characters and writing tips for beating it without using Anemo characters with grouping capabilities.

[@julyy862]

for me the hardest abyss is in 2.0 or something? i don't have raiden at that time but it's the er mechanic that ticks me off hshah

[@soosboons4444]

Learning how to group the enemies without a dedicated grouper (even then some might be too heavy) is definitely one of the biggest skill expression imo. One thing I always look for now is if the enemies have any mobility skill or not and plan the grouping accordingly.

[@nickjrfromtons]

Absolutely amazing!! Love your explanations for what you did! This really shows the importance of both positioning and some of the mechanics that don't get a lot of attention, such as the knockback provided by abilities like Kaeya's Burst. Not gonna lie, needing to consider stuff like that actually appeals to me personally because it's like a puzzle hehe it scratches my brain in all the right ways All the best with your thesis! Edit: I forgot to mention, but I actually laughed out loud when you used Anemo Traveler's Burst to group the first wave of 12-3-2 LOL that was fantastic

[@buttterflyyy]

Your explanations are so helpfull! Also the skill you show in these videos are amazing!

[@ethanmiller631]

c6 lisa & kaeya is a better flex than any 5 star character

[@vermillionorange]

Cool run as always! And congrats on getting your final Kaeya constellations!!! 🎉👏🎈

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍!

[@CherryTwixie]

this was an ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL achievement from you and everyone who contributed to this! hats off to your efforts and the sheer tenacity that would've been required to figure out how to clear this version's abyss with the 4* restriction, especially after having experienced first-hand that 7-wave hell in 12-1. god bless 🙏🙏💪💪💪

[@jamesnesran2348]

holy crap, you are insanely good. your times literally tie my best times with my raiden and nuevilette teams.

[@enemyforlosser]

crowd control, crit ratio and ER are perfect

[@Delzon]

Your notes are very useful, even if You dont use that teams, they are helpful

[@aozorashi]

The run was breathtaking but also the editing lol. Let me breathe for a while after a chamber clear, I was already holding my breath after the amazing clear but then it never stops! Sorry for the nitpick, keep up the god's work!

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍! So far, everyone has told me that they like the transitions skipping the down time quickly in the video, but I’ll consider adding a delay before the transition.

[@duongbahieu6679]

I used many full 5 star limited chatacter teams but still lost half of my humanity over this Abyss 4.7. You are so awesome ❤❤🎉🎉

[@MrGrishkaa]

Nice skill my friend!

[@toxicjig8231]

Outstanding gameplay and patience for it all, you have my subscription👏👏👏

[@marigoldmango5603]

This is actually insane. Amazing

[@kaylabridget1112]

The effort you put into beating this cycle with only starter characters is very commendable take care, and congrats

[@destalillia12]

Bro, youre amazing.. you got my standing applause and big respect on your effort.. eventho its not a single clean run, I really appreciate the tips commentary, I learned a lot from it ❤ Instant subscribe, but please dont sacrifice your mental health for the next patch abyss 😢 good luck and keep up the good work 😊

[@robinfroust4259]

Congrats 👏,you did an incredible work,ggs

[@ormitomimus]

You have patience of a saint. I've realised that I'm not that fluid with Clorinde to clear, so I just pulled my good old Raiden. And of course I have Neuvillette. I cleared without issues, but I know damn well if I tried something like this, I would throw my computer out of the window lmao. Huge kudos to you

[@magiko7176]

Freeze and the aoe of the blooms really work perfectly together. But even then, it requires immense luck. I myself went through 633 attempts to finally be finished with this abyss. I first achieved 36 stars earlier, but unfortunately my ego got in the way and made me do it again to try and convince myself that luck didn't play a major factor. I may not be as dedicated as you, but I wanted to let you know you are not alone. I hope you are doing well after all this.

[@yurahana6269]

amazing video, i always look forward to your abyss run every patch. good luck on your thesis!!

[@kai-gm9re]

this is incredible work. the dedication is beyond human limits

[@SinaYa_Tsukito]

6:21 U're genius 🤯 👏👏👏👍

[@aymanadel2640]

This video was such a joy to watch

[@jeanpierrelizarraga539]

Excelent video bro , gratz

[@victoriasilva6899]

Omg that is so cool !!

[@rocko1721]

holy crap what a nice run and this guy doesnt use booking this is what i call a very good player you deserve a like and a new follower

[@TurtleCamera]

I used to use booking, but a few people in Furu’s Discord server told me it’s annoying to watch, so I slowly learned to not rely on it

[@rocko1721]

@@TurtleCamera is not only annoying to watch also is cheating is not legal gameplay

[@Yelan-n8d]

@@rocko1721what is booking?

[@TurtleCamera]

@StillQiqiless I typically see it used in speedrunning. For context, if you open the handbook, everything in the game pauses except for particle movement and I think the character switching cooldown. This is what’s referred to as booking.

[@rocko1721]

@@Yelan-n8d if you open any menu when you are playing in abyss you can skip cd from switch characters, pauses the time but particles movement still, and you can also get better uptime from bufffs like bennetts Q or noblesse any buff you can get better uptime because when you skip particle animation plus the cd of switch a character you gain a lot of seconds is cheating because you are gaining fakes times also play with less energy recharge and getting better uptime from buffs

[@deltavapour4248]

The most insane genshin player I know dude holy shit, incredible work!

[@NeraThun]

Impressive as always. Next abyss iteration in two month (since patch hits after the reset) and you deserve that rest xD !

[@TurtleCamera]

The next version of the Spiral Abyss looks so much easier than 4.7 Spiral Abyss. Hopefully, it doesn’t take me 1,727 attempts next time.

[@Kangoshi_ru]

Wait, is it confirmed already? Next Abyss will be the same? Wtf, MiHoYo...

[@Goldberry1303]

This is so satisfying to watch

[@chimcham15]

... are you god? crazy clear, absolutely amazing

[@Duhgel]

I am so jealous, good job bro

[@VeroSim]

GREAT JOBBB MY GUYYYYY

[@weareelectricgi]

so satisfying! great strategy

[@jh44rell]

now this is some abyss content !!

[@azix2915]

you did how MANY resets??! OMG thank you for providing us great entertainment!

[@Lost_S]

this is insaaaaane

[@wac4access]

Absolutely incredible run! 🤩

[@ansa_2715]

so amazing!!

[@TurtleCamera]

👍

[@BodaciousBovine]

Incredible dedication. You have amazing skill and I love seeing your videos. Always take care of yourself first

[@M65V19]

This maybe starter characters, but God damn. This constellations...

[@TurtleCamera]

👍

[@tuxidokamen]

Everyone tell the Survey, 4x waves is too hard and we are "no longer paying Subscription/BP, it doesnt have value now". I stopped.

[@atIXO.]

Nope. Sill issue on your part. We wanted harder content and we got it

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

Only CN survey matter

[@tuxidokamen]

@@atIXO. 1720 resets for the most skilled players.

[@tuxidokamen]

@@DefinitelyNotAFerret which channel has the most Chinese fans?

[@EiraRose451]

Omg! 1727 resets??? That's crazyyy!!! I give up after 1st attempt! Ur freaking amazing!! ❤

[@scottshannon8539]

Impressive, great video

[@daughterofgorgias7235]

You deserve a sub

[@kamiiyamii]

🗣Mondstadt characters is weak TurtleCamera : Hold My Beers..

[@yueisgone]

Op. Good work!

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍!

[@appuraj270]

Me with nahida Neuvillette Arlecchino cloud retainer and some c6 4 star characters all fully maxed to level 90 still having problems to clear abyss level 11 😂

[@squishswish]

This is nuts... I am unable to full-star clear even with well-built 5 star teams. Now I see that I just need to try harder 😂 thanks for the team ideas, I think I will try Neuvilette fridge team on the second half!

[@tuxidokamen]

You may also need a new computer , an optimized keyboard, Zero Ping, play when no one is on and to try harder😂

[@gergokerekes4550]

@@tuxidokamen and 5K usd for resin to get the relics XD

[@amazinggeologist455]

This is insanely impressive

[@Aurora11793]

Dude these teams are insane wow good fucking job

[@thewackykid]

this is amazing... and full EM barb ftw...!

[@HankSensei]

dedication at its finest

[@bandef9203]

Big respect great team comp

[@SamuraiSx19]

If i cant clearit at firsti dont bother anymore. Abyss isnt my goal and i dont have time nor neeves doing it all day just to get all stars. But grats on your dedication! Sure these new phases are hella hard to clear. Sad thou cause last clear gives 200 primos but if not meant then not meant.. until getting proper artifacts i can just dream in clearing this

[@kuroyamichi]

the crabs really love to overreact. iyaaaah! I've been hit! let me stumble 50000000 meters away from you because the tap hurts! 🤕

[@nyuuking]

got 36* after seeing your video, thanks a lot!

[@TurtleCamera]

I’m glad my text commentary helped, 👍!

[@patoleapipows]

Man, this is unbelivable. I almost didnt got 9 with a acc since Day 01. Lots of 5 stars

[@yehtetlin8793]

I can't believe my Raiden XL is slower than your Lisa XL. Amazing man.

[@tashiika7270]

As I skill issues, I'm impressed... I even give up in the floor 3..

[@princekratos6260]

Subscibed for the insane skill! and the bonus guide how to defeat it

[@someone-wx4ww]

genuinely impressed you managed to do it this time ! even i struggled and i’ve been 36 starring since late 2021. btw if i may ask, how many hours of resets did it take?

[@TurtleCamera]

I’d say it was somewhere around 20 hours of attempts split among 5 days with lots of breaks in between

[@Aurora11793]

This video needs to blow up, boosting

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍! Unfortunately, I think it’s unlikely this video will blow up. From what I’ve noticed in past videos, posting my video on the first day of the Spiral Abyss iteration tends to gain the most traction. I posted about 4 days late and it got way less traction in the algorithm.

[@teaa__]

this is so sick, have you ever tried doing other challenges like randomizers or something? i think it would be a cool idea but obviously you can put those off because your mental health comes first

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍! I haven’t considered doing anything other than Melt Amber and Starter Characters Only content mainly because there are really the only things I’m interested in to be honest. A second reason is that I’m in graduate school, so trying to balance KZbin and school work is already extraordinarily challenging, especially given that I still have to work on that M.S. thesis through summer break.

[@yellowmustache6021]

just saw pinned comment. iam sorry u did a great job

[@Xni9ex-c6z]

Hoyo after watching your video: we need your assistance

[@reversal3628]

Such is a samurai skill!👏👏

[@grimreaper5309]

That is so good I have these 5 stars yet i cant even 3 star the first part of floor 12

[@KHksf]

I don't understand why so many people still insisting that Genshin is a p2w. Even if in the abyss you get 33☆ instead of 36☆ you only lose 50 primogems... Literally thats even less than missing 1 daily quest reward. Abyss aside, the whole content is 100% free

[@storagecrafter5701]

36 star is what considered achievment, literal achievment and not in-game achievment. Its not really cleared if it not 36 star yet. The whole idea of you just lose 50 primo doesn't matter AT ALL here. People that are combat oriented want to complete their abyss. Not farming primogem on the abyss.

[@KHksf]

@@storagecrafter5701 I'm not pretty sure if the game is combat oriented since the events are 50% Story 40% Collecting ballons/coins and 10% combat Also the game is 90% Story/Hidden lore quests and 10% Farming domains wich can be cleared in 10-20 second(and i'm being generous) and then the Abyss wich floor 9-10-11 are just a tutorial and the real Abyss is just 12th floor And no, exploration has almost 0 combat focus since most of the chests can be taken just by using any Pyro/Hydro/Electro/Cryo and a 1 or 2 Swirls from Kazuha. It doesnt even count

[@storagecrafter5701]

@@KHksf Your points were valid. Yes Genshin was designed more like a casual game. But outside of story/lore enjoyer there are also exist combat enjoyer. That is why peoples like Ashikai and Zajef can exist within the Genshin community. They enjoy different aspect of the game. If one enjoy combat and not into story that is their way of enjoying the game, you can't help about that. That is why Hoyo designed abyss in the first place. They want to reach wider audience and making more money. And also recently they added permanent new endgame mode to satisfy combat enjoyer. Player like me, Lili and TurtleCamera. You were emphasizing much on how the game was designed. I'm not talking about how the game was designed. Its more about how the playerbase treat their game. I want you to get my point and not confused. Just bcs combat enjoyer/oriented player exist doesn't mean Genshin is a combat oriented game. Genshin being P2W game is justified statement and relatively true from player to player. Veteran player may find it easy to 36 star while newbie may find it hard.

[@snuggles203]

I literally can’t 36 star even with a top 100 wriothesley

[@amesong4689]

You’re amazing. I, on the other hand, am terrible at this game.

[@kyogre-blue]

Why are there so many waves 😭 Absolutely amazing getting through all that

[@markusbrendon]

Amazing, thus must have been so hard

[@loicmathieu5254]

amazing !! can you explain the optimal rotation for both teams ?

[@TurtleCamera]

To be honest, there’s hasn’t been one optimal rotation that works for every situation. I slightly change the rotations based on the situation and manage my resources as efficiently as possible.

[@moontim4620]

I was getting a little bored with c6 4 stars runs... but the explanations really helped. I didnt know collei should build for damage instead of EM.

[@TurtleCamera]

I didn’t really build Collei for damage specifically. Rather, I focused on building more ER% to make sure I had her burst up as often as possible.

[@moontim4620]

@@TurtleCamera ooh.. i noticed the dendro damage goblet so i thought you are going for damage. Thanks for explaining

[@TurtleCamera]

My bad, I worded that weirdly. I meant that as in ER% is a priority but I’ll still try to build offensive stats on her if possible.

[@moontim4620]

@@TurtleCamera ooh ok... i was condering building her for my burgeon team because dendro mc plant can accidentally burst. I was choosing between EM /dendro+cit on goblet and circlet... i do have a full EM emblem set i prepared for pyro archon which i can use for collei if i decide to go stringless

[@rairein1890]

sending this to every person saying the new abyss is hard, and using the soul player motto "git gud"

[@冥路-v8l]

Yup, that's why i need new characters. I definitely can't do this

[@pronoun171]

Commenting to boost this in the algorithm

[@TurtleCamera]

Thanks, 👍!

[@sadhorsememes]

I'm so impressed

[@painnagato3987]

Amaising!

[@abhiss6705]

This is what i love about genshin and other hoyo games compared to Wuwa. There are always options you can try and you can work out a strategy. In wuwa the combat is more rigid and reactive. Its just swap to get this buff and swap to get another buff. There is no freedom and thinking outside the box.

[@LinuxPiano]

1700+ resets is insane, would you say the main reason behind it is enemy positioning/attacking RNG? Or is it easy to make gameplay mistakes with this group of units? This is the first abyss I haven't been able to clear in a while, not even close to the 7 minute mark lol. Also bunny dancing on top of the weakened boss at 5:50 is so funny

[@TurtleCamera]

It was both of the reasons you mentioned and the fact that I only had Barbara and Hydro Traveler against the Pyro Lector. If Natlan gives a new starter character, I hope it’s a good Hydro applicator since Hydro application against Pyro shields has been a problem in every version that had Pyro shields.

[@blueraspberrypheonix]

Subbed for aether ☺️☺️😊 I loveee seeing him in these videos, its alwaysss lumine

[@broccolithoughts]

Incredible work as always

[@earthorigin8212]

OMG so much skill

[@DebianEdition-uf2xg]

Is it possible to achieve same result with c0??

[@TurtleCamera]

I haven’t seen anyone pull this off before, but liilli (the only other starter characters player that still does these types of runs) has made attempts with C0 starters and only R1 Favonious Warbow with craftable weapons. The best they achieved was 5 stars in floor 12, mainly because of the lack of energy from not having more Favonious weapons.

[@fawad9407]

you're a god