Lxwanna was so good when she wasn't treated as just a comedy character. It's why I like her so much more in DS9. Where she's allowed to be something more than a running gag. The writing for her in this episode in particular is excellent.
@roshallock57473 жыл бұрын
The anger and passion in that scene was more than just acting. She was a marvelous actress that should have gotten many more parts like the one she had here. I would have enjoyed her character so much more.
@Lanceawright3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@er22063 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Aerojet013 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say she was a running gag in TNG. She was an eccentric character that allowed us to explore Deanna Troi's personal life and she added humour and personality to the show. Also, she was one of a few people who wasn't scared to challenge Picard. Majel Barrett played the role very well.
@sephservant2 жыл бұрын
This is easily the best Lwaxana episode in Trek. I enjoy "Ménage à Troi" and the one with the Millers well.
@elyreelay7745 жыл бұрын
Every single one of these later episodes she did was her way of saying goodbye and I love you to Roddenberry. I’ve always found that to be so important to the series itself, especially since she really took over after he did die.
@azraelknightquest57545 жыл бұрын
Lwaxanna could be obnoxious and difficult to deal with, but as a fictional character, I always felt she had a good heart and soul, with a strong spirit. Not indifferent from the actress that portrayed her.
@JakkFrost15 жыл бұрын
The actress that portrayed her being Gene Roddenberry's widow, Majel Barrett.
@bl13985 жыл бұрын
it’s funny how so many of the characters are played by actors. You’d have thought they could have afforded the real people
@garethhayes34705 жыл бұрын
I met Majel Barret Roddenberry once in Liverpool. A lovely lady in every meaning of the phrase.
@alansmithee4195 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but: That's not what indifferent means at all.
@alansmithee4195 жыл бұрын
@White Rice regardless of whether I do, that's not what indifferent means. Indifference is not caring, it has nothing to do with differences.
@redblade437 жыл бұрын
I was 31 when this episode came out and now I'm bloody 60 years of age!
@KandiKlover7 жыл бұрын
RIP Redblade
@redblade437 жыл бұрын
You will be there yourself one day.
@KandiKlover7 жыл бұрын
Redblade I don't intend on doing the resolution ritual. Come on you not that old, live it up and have fun everyday.
@BritishCommentWriter7 жыл бұрын
What's it like in 2020?
@jonathonisherwood55317 жыл бұрын
right, for the good of society you know what you have to do
@jimstanga63903 жыл бұрын
She had the best lines in this episode...I’m paraphrasing, but in effect, she told him “Well if that’s the way it is, Timmisson, then I’m surprised anyone is bothering to try to save your sun or your planet. Their time of resolution has come, why not let them die as well? Where is the difference, Timmisson? Tell me, because I don’t get it...”
@oolooo Жыл бұрын
Based Lwaxana
@ducminhduong987311 ай бұрын
That's missing the point entirely. Elderlies are supposed to kill themselves to let their successors take over, not because of some overarching religious reason.
@jimstanga639011 ай бұрын
@@ducminhduong9873 …and who is going to take over Timmisson’s work? Their suns clock is ticking…
@yaburu5 жыл бұрын
Lawful Good clashes with Chaotic Good. Lol
@tantalus_complex3 жыл бұрын
I find those sorts of clashes the most interesting.
@nicholasmoore80433 жыл бұрын
Lawful Good will go against an unjust law.
@Kirhean3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmoore8043 Except, in this case, it is a standing tradition of the culture. They agree, overall, that it is the right and just thing to do. So a lawful good character would respect their wishes. Picard implicitly offered sanctuary at the end, essentially saying "you don't have to do this, and I will protect your right to make that choice, it's up to you." That's exactly how I'd interpret a lawful good character in this situation.
@nicholasmoore80433 жыл бұрын
@@Kirhean I agree that Picard giving him the choice would be Lawful Good, as doing so would be violating the law of the Prime Directive to do a good act, but their culture has nothing to do with it. If we're talking D&D, which is where these alignments come from, Law; Chaos; Good; and Evil are constants. The constants don't change due to a cultural belief; forcing someone to commit suicide would be considered evil, so the culture would likely be considered Lawful Evil if most people followed and believed in this law.
@Kirhean3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasmoore8043 fair point, d&d does run off of objective morality. I just figure that trek tends towards a more subjective view, so in universe Picard is definitely LG.
@f33nx3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that the Prime Directive isn't an absolute law to any Federation citizen, it's just a rule for the military-like Star Fleet. Seems like a very keen decision, I wonder if Gene Roddenberry realized what a difference that was.
@pwnmeisterage2 жыл бұрын
The Prime Directive is a deliberately half-vague rubbery bludgeon. Open to so much open-ended interpretation that it's basically meaningless. A useful basis for rationalizing, justifying, and officially rubber-stamping any controversial decision.
@zarabada6125 Жыл бұрын
@@firstname9954 She would only be immune where diplomatic immunity has already been negotiated and granted. In the present day, diplomatic immunity protects diplomats from prosecution by foreign powers. It doesn't protect them from prosecution by their own government. As a citizen of the Federation, it will depend on the clauses of her planet's membership of the Federation whether she holds immunity (and the extent of that immunity) within the Federation.
@danieldickson8591 Жыл бұрын
@@firstname9954 I think of it like the American Constitution's First Amendment protecting free speech. It only bars the government from censoring its citizens, not private persons.
@battlesheep2552 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's not about whether interference is good or bad, it's about how it's a decision that's too important to be left to the discretion of individual starship captains
@mikeriesco61743 жыл бұрын
Hopefully O'Brien remembered to engage the transporter's "don't rematerialize their hands stuck together" function...
@mytube6503 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he narrowed the confinement beam.
@shadowrylander3 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the same thing.
@lander774772 жыл бұрын
@@shadowrylander and i'm sure the Heisenberg compensators.. you know, compensated
@mmmtsp2 жыл бұрын
and when they reached the planet surface it ends up looking like a tool music video.
@3675Chandra5 жыл бұрын
She's the Queen Mother of Star Trek. Majel Barret did a great job in this episode.
@williampetersen9915 Жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure of meeting her once at a sci-fi show in Anaheim. She was one of the sweetest most pleasant persons I'd ever met. Speaking with her was like talking to an old friend.
@JohnAnderson-jy2js Жыл бұрын
With all due respect I have to correct you Majel Barrett is the queen of Star Trek the queen mother is Lucille Ball because if it wasn't for her okaying Star Trek at desilu Productions there would be no Star Trek
@3675Chandra Жыл бұрын
@@JohnAnderson-jy2js Wow, did I really write that four years ago? But, I really can't disagree with you.
@Locktwiste724 жыл бұрын
Lxwana could be obnoxious at times, but it's episodes and moments like this that show her heart and soul being in the right place. She was more human than humans can be. Kudos to the writers, and to whoever developed get character over the years. TNG was one of those TV series where you started out with characters who were one-dimensional at first, tough around the edges, but by the middle if the season they became refined, multi-layered, and multifaceted. It's like in the beginning it was Miles Davis picking up the trumpet for the very first time, blowing out squeaks and horrid sounds, but as time went on him turning that trumpet into the most beautiful instrument ever known to mankind. Sadly, you don't get this kind of character development anymore anywhere.
@ClarissaTheDogcow6 жыл бұрын
"Half a Life, or: How I Learned to Stop Laughing at Lwaxana Troi and Fall In Love With Her"
@crf10964 жыл бұрын
NO FIGHTING IN THE SUICIDE ROOM
@jamesparker2234 жыл бұрын
@@crf1096 God Clarissas comment was good.... but this...... this is like..... wow. Seriously impressive.
@christiangomez3203 жыл бұрын
I love your comment, Clarissa!!
@shibolinemress89133 жыл бұрын
I'm 58 and have lost a few family members and good friends in past years, and this episode always brings a tear.
@Briansgate2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one on the ship ever said "funny how Lxwanna sounds just like our computer..."
@Theta405 жыл бұрын
3 minutes of Star Trek:TNG has more pathos and intensity of emotion than an episode or even a season of modern television.
@inertiaforce78465 жыл бұрын
I agree 200%. These were the hay days of television.
@StormsandSaugeye5 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the Orville is doing quite well in that regard. Little lighter in tone, but still accomplishing the same task
@busterbiloxi38335 жыл бұрын
One second of the original series blows away an entire hour of The Next Generation.
@inertiaforce78465 жыл бұрын
@@busterbiloxi3833 That's a subjective opinion. I have always liked TNG more than TOS. However, upon watching TOS a lot more lately, I am starting to have second thoughts. There were many areas of TOS that were better than TNG in my opinion. Regardless, I think both of these series were good. They were both Star Trek.
@tarvoc7464 жыл бұрын
@@inertiaforce7846 As opposed to Discovery, which must be from Gods know what other Sci-Fi franchise.
@mdteletom12884 жыл бұрын
She deserved a special Emmy or some type of award for contributions to Star Trek. This episode and the one on DS9 with Odo in the elevator are among the best acting by anyone on any Star Trek series.
@maisiesummers425 жыл бұрын
This was a superb performance by David Ogden Stiers.
@rcslyman89295 жыл бұрын
Always a superb performance from the man. He was a great actor. And from Majel as well. This and Dark Page were two of my favorite Lwaxana Troi episodes from TNG.
@maryhlad52774 жыл бұрын
I loved Dark Page as well. It showed the fragility of the Betazoid psyche is. Poor Lwaxana and her late husband Ian lost their first daughter, Kestra, in a drowning accident, and repressing the tragedy caused Lwaxana to go into a coma. It was up to Deanna to help her mother.
@DarthJCS3 жыл бұрын
This was the episode that really made me love Lwaxana Troi.
@wikiwikiwa3 жыл бұрын
This episode makes me cry without fail, every. Single. Time. Hell just the ending of this clip was enough.
@matttuozzo90105 жыл бұрын
Lwaxana was a tragically misunderstood character.
@a.w.34385 жыл бұрын
..but she is my favorite one of all.
@shyone9684 жыл бұрын
She also had some bad luck with men. This guy, jean luc, odo, her baby daddy on DS9, she just could not catch a break. And as an ambassador TO the federation she is just pissed that the pesky prime directive is in the way of her love. And that custom is barbaric. She is right. If you are terminally ill and wish to pass peacefully that is one thing but to require someone in their twilight years to just kill them self is truly barbaric.
@mariusraab90764 жыл бұрын
It is probably our future as well. In 100 years overpopulation will be a problem.
@gerryfogarty82744 жыл бұрын
@@shyone968 Timazon brought up the point that it would be cruel to have people decide when their family members would die would be cruel. I know someone who died of lung cancer, he could have survived but he would have been unable to walk to barely move. He would not have wanted to live like that.
@daydodog3 жыл бұрын
@@mariusraab9076 easy there malthus
@annagalati343 жыл бұрын
I have loved this actress since Star Trek the original series. She was wonderful .
@ShadowPriestBear Жыл бұрын
I really love her so much. Adorable character full of youthful and joy. ❤️
@CenobiteBeldar3 жыл бұрын
"Permission to disembark, captain" "Permission granted, computer"
@skynetprime825 жыл бұрын
"you don't just turn your back what's the matter with you?" That line gets me every time 😄
@cobeoe4 жыл бұрын
2:46 this is probably the only time lwaxana has ever called Jean-Luc Picard Captain
@Boredman5673 жыл бұрын
After a whole episode of pleading and reasoning to make them understand, his closest family shames him and his society blocks all his further research. He eventually gives in because he can't stand the pressure and alienation from his loved ones. It's my headcanon that by forcing him to die, they lost their chance to save their planet. If they'd rather let their sun die than make an exception to a draconic bloodthirsty ritual, then I can't say they care about their own survival, or about life in general.
@ParabulaMan3 жыл бұрын
once again i'm sucked away by this amazing acting. bravo
@francisdavis12713 жыл бұрын
While there were many good episodes of Star Trek this one's focus on aging and society was very poignant and very well done.... and I'm 62 now.
@Dominasty Жыл бұрын
Watched this as a kid when it was a rerun. Even as a kid, this made me cry. Made me love her character a lot.
@hd_inmemoriam4 жыл бұрын
I love the awkward staring at the beginning before the door chime. :D
@SciTrekMan3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Timicin; Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester, III - two completely opposite characters, both played brilliantly by David Ogden Stiers.
@Golkarian7 жыл бұрын
TNG was always weird this way, how does a federation ambassador not know about the prime directive?
@jonathanhirst69977 жыл бұрын
Because according to Memory Alpha the Prime Directive applies only to Starfleet, not the Federation as a whole. "It's *your* Prime Directive, not *mine*!" is, perhaps, supposed to be taken literally.
@timriggins706 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Hirst but you think it would be something they would know with working with Starfleet.
@r0bw00d5 жыл бұрын
Lwaxana is the Betazoid ambassador to the Federation. Presuming everyone in that room is smart (and there's no reason not to), then yes, she knows full well about the Prime Directive and was therefore pleading to Jean-Luc on a personal level instead of a professional one. Given her situation, it's perfectly natural for her character to behave in such a manner. Lwaxana was just hoping Picard would disregard the Prime Directive in light of taking an action that she perceived as being a correct one to take.
@ericlanglois91945 жыл бұрын
The way the Federation is portrayed, most people don't seem to have ships of their own, so there's probably very little reason to extend to the prime directive to all civilians as well. Though I would think as a Federation Ambassador and someone likely to be in contact with non-federation cultures, Lwaxana Troi would have been bound by the same directive. Maybe the Federation had two separate arms of the diplomatic corps, one for internal diplomacy and one for external diplomacy?
@Xostriyad5 жыл бұрын
@@ericlanglois9194 As an Ambassador she probably doesn't have to wrangle with the prime directive as much. Starfleet ships handle first contacts and dealing with most primitive civilizations. The prime directive isn't simply anything that comes up for years at a time probably. Heck as a personal example I've known people that have been in the work force longer than I have been alive and were completely unaware about labor laws. Saw a guy fired for involving a government agency to investigate their shady business practices... none of my coworkers thought anything was done wrong. I was just... flabbergasted with their complete lack of knowledge as if we lived in the 1910s or something. Company got sued, ex-coworker that blew the whistle was laughing his ass off when they kicked him out the door.
@nimbly16933 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace, David Ogden Stires. I will miss seeing you at the Walgreens in Newport Oregon.
@whiteknightcat3 жыл бұрын
Majel Barrett is gone as well.
@RCP6413 жыл бұрын
One interesting thing about this episode is that Dr. Timicin’s daughter Dara was played by Michelle Forbes who then came back the following season as ensign Ro.
@Highkingofgondor Жыл бұрын
She was a stupid beotch in this episode.
@michelvanderlinden83635 жыл бұрын
was.... that the same actor (the doctor) who played Charles Emerton Winchester III on M.A.S.H?
@jrm482205 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@rcslyman89295 жыл бұрын
Yep, David Ogden Stiers. RIP.
@robertmorris89975 жыл бұрын
And Cogsworth in Beauty and The Beast.
@robertmorris89975 жыл бұрын
The evil mad scientist in Lilo and Stitch. etc.
@jonathanbermudez5465 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Mr. Mallered
@Mindraker13 жыл бұрын
"I promise I won't cause any problems" Yeah, I'd believe Q or Quark more than her.
@undrhil52815 жыл бұрын
Man, the ship's computer can sound downright hostile at times!
@dlc11193 жыл бұрын
Love the look on Picard's face, when he's finally seen the 'real' Ms. Troi
@sy2see3 жыл бұрын
Such a woman of good heart and soul.
@joshjuntilla Жыл бұрын
This is one of my notable TNG episodes. It tells a lot and it can relate to real life as well. Imagine if you knew someone with a different beliefs or way of life that you're not actually agree or understand. Are you going to against with it and force your thoughts? But doing so, you may look like you're disrespecting one's ways. In the end, whether you agree or not to one's way of life, you just have to respect it and take it as it is
@xSuperMetroidx9 ай бұрын
If that person is making the choice for themselves. If it's something being forced upon others unwillingly, then absolutely not.
@antesp47643 жыл бұрын
how resolute: "Well, it's YOUR Prime Directive, not MINE!"
@jameshooper78723 жыл бұрын
Star trek is just a story about majel Barret's love life over 60 years set to a sci fi back drop
@WarpRulez5 жыл бұрын
The Prime Directive is, at the same time, the most noble and the most savage principle in Star Trek. It's extremely savage in that it stops Starfleet from helping entire civilizations and worlds from becoming extinct due to a natural disaster that said civilization is not guilty of and cannot help, even though Starfleet could help. It's also extremely illogical. If a Starfleet officer witnesses someone in a life-threatening situation, surely he would help. However, if he witnesses a hundred million people in a life-threatening situation, suddenly he will deliberately not help, even in a situation where he could.
@Apastorfield5 жыл бұрын
It's important to understand the fascist nature of the federation.
@OmegaII5 жыл бұрын
@@Apastorfield Wouldn't the prime directive, be an anti-Fascist rule? Basically, a world has its right to govern itself, the federation doesn't get to force the planet to abide by its rules.
@Apastorfield5 жыл бұрын
@@OmegaII I'm refering to the federation itself. The prime directive is basically just dont fuck with other nations
@lyianx5 жыл бұрын
"worlds from becoming extinct due to a natural disaster" But think about the bigger picture. What if another race, flying around the galaxy stop near our little world, saw an asteroid barreling toward it millions of years ago and decided that, because of all the dinosaurs, plant and animal life, they should stop that asteroid from impacting Earth, it would have pretty much erased the chance for humanity to exist as it does now. Sometimes.. many times, an act of nature, is what needs to happen.
I think this is one of the exceptions where Lwaxana was actually a likeable character.
@alexandria2243Ай бұрын
0:27 hearing that reminded me how i just watched midsommar recently... and now i'm remembering the cliff scene.
@LnPPersonified4 жыл бұрын
"Well, it's your Prime Directive, not mine." You're Betazoid, and if I'm correct, Betazed is part of the Federation, so yes, it is yours.
@TheDoctorProfessor4 жыл бұрын
Do people who aren't members of Star Fleet have to obey the Prime Directive?
@LnPPersonified4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDoctorProfessor That's a good question. I looked it up, and there seems to be the general consensus that no, private citizens are not required to obey the Prime Directive (which makes me wonder what's the point). That said, Lwaxana Troi _is_ a Federation ambassador, so while she may not be beholden to the PD, breaking it might cause her to lose face or otherwise find herself in poor standing, and they may choose to remove her from her position.
@jonas10151194 жыл бұрын
@@LnPPersonified I guess the intention of the prime directive was to avoid making Starfleet into some america-esque Liberation force, fighting everyone that didnt share their cultural beliefs. Looking at the Star Trek universe that'd be an endless crusade. Though to do something like tat you'd need collective power which Starfleet has but individuals dont, similar to how government orgs and military are *supposed* to remain politically neutral because their organizations influence would disturb political balance.
@wrlord4 жыл бұрын
No. It's a military regulation. She is not in the service.
@jeffreycollins86343 жыл бұрын
@@wrlord The diplomatic corps may have something similar to the PD, however, as @Pokerface mentioned previously.
@wiseblueman88143 жыл бұрын
I still tell this story to other people. Mainly because of how different cultures can be, but how it can be logical but cruel to us. But it was Lwaxanana and Timicin and his daughter Dara. Everyone made sense and I as torn, so this is full of emotions and I can never forget.
@AJGreen-cn8kk3 жыл бұрын
Gene Roddenberry had to be one of the gentlest, most thoughtful men on the planet. We're luck to have gotten to know him a little through his work.
@jorgevasquezjr3913 жыл бұрын
gene only was involved with the first series
@AJGreen-cn8kk3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgevasquezjr391 Not so, he wrote and produced the first year of STTNG and consulted until his death in '91.
@reibarker97843 жыл бұрын
What he thought about was SEX. A lot
@catman3514 жыл бұрын
Star Trek's version of "Logan's Run."
@StormsandSaugeye5 жыл бұрын
Wait, did they say Kaylon? After the most recent of "The Orville...." *Nervous tugging of shirt collar*
@BareBeautyBodypainting4 жыл бұрын
I had to double check when i heard it but its a different spelling, Kaelon.
@ericshepard66694 жыл бұрын
Was it their bones that lined the catacombs of their planet? Sounds like they didnt have to do much slaughtering... just wait till they all turned 60!
@PianoDad2 ай бұрын
I love how Lwaxanna finally showed some depth in this episode. In all the previous episodes, it felt like she was a woman who couldn’t acknowledge she was in a mid-life crisis, escaping her own pain by flirting with everyone. In this episode, it’s like she sobered up and came to herself.
@KnightRaymund Жыл бұрын
Lwaxana could be pretty bad at times but in episodes like this she really shined. I love her promise to Picard. A rare moment that she's allowed a quiet moment.
@terrypetersen29704 жыл бұрын
Lwaxanna always pushing her ideas on to everybody, but was always able to except ideas and concepts totally foreign to her. I think her best moment was on DS9 when her and Odo we're stuck in the lift and she took care of him in his liquid state without any judgement, just acceptance.
@terrypetersen29704 жыл бұрын
Damn I know I typed accepted.
@reno.zed13 жыл бұрын
Such a deep, beautiful episode!
@juliagrinnan96623 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful love story!
@tomv59884 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite episodes. Majel Barret should have gotten more episodes. She was brilliant here.
@tommypetraglia46883 жыл бұрын
Ah... Majel Barrett Roddenberrya Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, born Majel Leigh Hudec; February 23, 1932 - December 18, 2008) was an American actress and producer. She was best known for her roles as Nurse Christine Chapel in the original Star Trek series and Lwaxana Troi on Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, as well as for being the voice of most onboard computer interfaces throughout the series. She became the second wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry (1969 - 1991)
@Grigsy3 жыл бұрын
The Prime Directive = "There is no emotion; There is only peace".
@lionsandmoon3 жыл бұрын
Scenes like this are what made TNG great. Good TV or cinema should always make you at least a little bit uncomfortable.
@BladeOfLight163 жыл бұрын
Lwaxana was right to oppose the ritual. If no one speaks out about things that are wrong, they will never change.
@BladeOfLight163 жыл бұрын
@Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Yeah, let's just go back to the days of eugenics. Guess you're as historically ignorant and morally bankrupt as your namesake.
@bobdonda3 жыл бұрын
she was right to speak out... but you can't force a society to change if they don't want to
@BladeOfLight163 жыл бұрын
@@bobdonda Change comes one mind at a time, one ear hearing one voice speak the truth.
@scottread3 жыл бұрын
A single suitcase? The Enterprise computer certainly travels light.
@Haze14344 жыл бұрын
Plot twist... because they were holding hands when they teleported, there was a malfunction and they became a combined being like The Thing. The people on the planet were all but eradicated by this Cronenberg being, until they finally destroyed the monster, bringing final 'resolution' to both of them.
@tarvoc7464 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that the one where Rick and Morty replaced their dead selves from a parallel universe?
@KyleStratacusDrewry9 жыл бұрын
Prime Directive: She fully plans to go down there and give the man a reason to live, the Captain knows this as well.
@bcn1gh7h4wk5 жыл бұрын
"Number One, will you please..... ?" " _sigh_ Right away, sir."
@theAEDan4 жыл бұрын
The prime directive sure is convinient at times, absolves anyone of having to make any truly difficult decisions. You can just ignore it, and fly away.
@stainlesssteelfox14 жыл бұрын
That's not what was happening. In fact this is one of the few times I've seen the Prime Directive being used correctly, rather than as a cheap way to ratchet u[ tension. Only a moron would interpret it to mean that letting a population go extinct rather than helping and possibly contaminating their culture is the correct course of action. But that's the default, and it's then up to some courageous officer to 'put his career on the line' and do something that any sane and normal person would see as obvious.
@tarvoc7464 жыл бұрын
@@stainlesssteelfox1 _Only a moron would interpret it to mean that letting a population go extinct rather than helping and possibly contaminating their culture is the correct course of action._ Point in case: That's what Archer thought it should mean.
@mbitetto673 жыл бұрын
At least he lived twice the life of those in the Domed City (Logan's Run)
@hardwirecars3 жыл бұрын
why the hell am i tearing up for charles emerson winchester of all people!
@matthewjones20952 жыл бұрын
Beacause he can be an ass but i would rather him hold the sculpile then frank berns
@GradyBaby133 жыл бұрын
Lwaxanna - You might be the Captain, but I've been ALL UP IN HERE since day 1
@mks9469 Жыл бұрын
I loved this episode. It was just so sad but very interesting. I would have loved to have seen Troys mom happy and witty someone that gets her. 😔
@GreyhawkTheAngry2 жыл бұрын
A salute to the late great David Ogden Stiers.
@RedLP5000S4 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna go, go with a smile! 🤪
@literallyanangrymoose77173 жыл бұрын
People like this annoy me to no end. Because it offends your sensibilities, it doesnt grant you the right to interfere.
@MinutemanOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Wpuld have been great where theres an end credits scene where they transport to the planet and immediately transport to another ship to escape
@Tzunamii7775 жыл бұрын
What a Woman.
@JohnProthero Жыл бұрын
Rarely was their a guest star on TNG that was better than Patrick Stewart: David Ogden Stiers was that rare exception. Brilliant, subtle, dignified.
@IrenMasot3 жыл бұрын
"I promise I won't cause any problems down there" *proceeds to dance naked on a table*
@barrymorrie2544 Жыл бұрын
this and the first star trek aged well still outstanding shows
@Kara_Kay_Eschel5 жыл бұрын
Punch The Keys For God's Sake! *transports people to the planets surface* You're the man know, dog, O'Brien.
@redjack50343 жыл бұрын
idk, holding hands in a transporter sounds... risky
@krzosu2 жыл бұрын
As a civilian she aint bound by adhering to prime directive -and Pickard didnt have any authority to stop her even if he wanted to - especially since that was the private affair not any official starfleet related one.
@DinnerBells5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if Picard was like, "absolutely not, you are confined to your quarters!"
@tarvoc7464 жыл бұрын
Lwaxana: "Diplomatic immunity!!!" Picard: "It's just been revoked!"
@jameshaywood8787 ай бұрын
Your telling me that he's not older than 60, more like 70 plus.
@Rin-qj7zt3 жыл бұрын
it really hurt when his daughter said she was ashamed at him for choosing to live. i couldn't help but think, "do you love your home? your people? your customs? friends and family? then you can understand why someone would throw away their reputation, their chance to be buried next to their loved ones, and even their ability to be with their people all so that one day your child would be able to be buried next to you." the ending of the episode really makes you think, but.. i wish someone had made that point. he probably would have chosen to live.
@davidmiedema29506 жыл бұрын
"you do not have to do this..." (facial expression) I bet he was making it all up to get away from Troi!!!!!
@Mirandorl4 жыл бұрын
TFW your old phone had the TNG door chime as the SMS tone and you still jump to check for a message just before Picard says "come"
@guarddog3183 жыл бұрын
My old phone had the ST:TOS communicator tone/beep. And yes, it was a flip phone. 😁
@Mirandorl3 жыл бұрын
@@guarddog318 hehe cool
@ThunderAppeal4 жыл бұрын
He was a great MASH surgeon in Korea.
@Oragami13372 жыл бұрын
Damn i miss this show so much! "Picard" Just ISNT THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheNoiseySpectator3 жыл бұрын
0:51 either way, Picard *Could not* stop him from following such a practice if _he_ was intent on it. Nobody could. Foolish Lwaxanna for not realizing that.
@Transmedal24 жыл бұрын
Mr obrian better make an appearance on the new picard startrek series
@batmanvspredator5 жыл бұрын
Once again, it's all about the Prime Directive.
@OneEyedKeys4 жыл бұрын
I think it is a very honourable tradition, after seeing many loved ones cling to life until long after they are able to say proper goodbye's. Nothing is perfect, and no culture is. I am older now, and though I think I have many years left, who knows? Is it not in some cases better to end gracefully and powerfully, saying all that needs be said in a beautiful ceremony....or just waste away and have your loved ones one day get a phone call that they can no longer say good bye to somebody they loved. Tricky. Star Trek Philosophy at its best.
@kevlonk Жыл бұрын
That moment when a decorated Federation diplomat is promoting the violation of the Prime Directive. Way to go, Lwaxana.
@ryanmann263911 ай бұрын
This idea was taken straight out of the movie Logan's Run in which people lived in an enclosed city and were put to death when they reached 30.
@user-zd5ny4eu9c6 жыл бұрын
It's WINCHESTER!!!
@solarisone10825 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@hankrearden205 жыл бұрын
The Third!
@realMrVent5 жыл бұрын
It's Oberoth!
@Stefan-4 жыл бұрын
Major Charles Emerson Winchester the third to be exact :-)
@Darbokst4 жыл бұрын
that was my first thought.
@Cinncinnatus Жыл бұрын
her whole teleporter scene seemed off to me like she was OOC there or something cuz I always felt that character was always played/portrayed as an 'Alpha Female' type not one to ask permission... let alone shes a civi not even in starfleet so she never had to ask either. 🤔
@j.griffin4 жыл бұрын
“In various roles, Majel Barrett participated in every incarnation of the popular science fiction Star Trek franchise produced, including live-action and animated versions, television and cinema, and ALL of the time periods in which the various series have been set.” -Wikipedia She also portrayed Nurse Christine Chapel in TOS. Her original role in the pilot as “Number One” was eliminated and she was replaced by Mr.Spock. “Her first appearance as Nurse Chapel in film dailies prompted NBC executive Jerry Stanley to yodel ‘Well,well... Look who's back!’. In an early scene in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, viewers are informed that she has now become Doctor Chapel, a role which she reprised briefly in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, as Commander Chapel.” In Star Trek:The Animated Series she also performed the part of a “cat girl”, the ailuroid communications officer named M'Ress, an officer who served alongside the inimitable Commander Nyota Uhura. On another note, “Nyota” and “Uhura” mean “Star” and “Freedom” in Swahili, respectively. Of course, that’s a whole other story...
@tarvoc7464 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, she was also in Babylon 5 in one episode.
@stainlesssteelfox13 жыл бұрын
Now this is a case where the Prime Directive is actually being applied in the way it's meant to rather than as an excuse for doing nothing.
@simanova837 Жыл бұрын
Holding hands on transporter platform is dangerous.
@dmanc853 жыл бұрын
0:54 is the 24th Century version of the shocked Pikachu face
@marcelcostache25045 жыл бұрын
This is the Star Trek i grow up with, not the blasphemy that is Discovery.
@markyoung11485 жыл бұрын
People were saying the sane thing about TNG vs TOS in that day. I remember having those conversations back then as well.
@marcelcostache25045 жыл бұрын
@@markyoung1148 there is way to much social justice crap and ret-con of the original series a mean the spoor drive is not part of canon, let not even talk about a holo deck in 23 century how come the constitution does not have that !? How come we have no spore drive on the Enterprise D!?
@markyoung11485 жыл бұрын
@@marcelcostache2504 the constitution did have a type of holodeck. Unless you ignore the animated series. The spore drive is essentially string theory with is relevant science. And from the very beginning of the show they have illustrated how unethical and dangerous it is, which would easily explain why it is not used later. There is very little "social justice crap" on the show. The actors won't stop shutting up about it outside the show. But, if you ignore them it's pretty solid trek.
@marcelcostache25045 жыл бұрын
@@markyoung1148 so the sister on Spock with her loud mouth and agressive illogical marry sue behavior is not a social justice warrior !? , second the federation has the prime directive and a ton of laws to protect any sentient life.........again the spore dive has no place in a society like the federation, please show me an episode in the original series where they have a holo deck on the Enterprise or any other constitution class.
@markyoung11485 жыл бұрын
@@marcelcostache2504 I already told you in the animated series they showed a holographic rec room similar to an early holodeck. You don't have to like Bernham's behavior, that's what gets her into so much trouble in the first season. Idk how she's a Mary Sue, she is constantly failing, no one likes her, and she has major character flaws. I'm curious, how much of the show you have watched? Of course the federation has the prime directive and laws to stop such things as the abuse of a species that the spore drive causes. However, it was war time and they were desperate. It's amazing what a cultured society will allow or ignore during war don't you think? Almost like a commentary on recent issues with Afghanistan and Pakistan and Iraq.
@timriggins706 жыл бұрын
One would think that the Federation diplomatic core would have a rule similar to the prime directive. What sense would it make it to have a rule stopping Starfleet from interfering in a civilization but allowing your diplomats or private citizens to.
@TookyG5 жыл бұрын
It may apply to them under certain circumstances. Lwaxana is an ambassador from a Federation world to the Federation itself so the prime directive doesn't apply anyway. If she was reassigned to a function that deals with non-Federation members the PD very well may apply to her at that point.
@markyoung11485 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the ambassadors be expected to break the prime directive? Because they sometimes have to negotiate new planets joining the federation and they're are certain practices they simply cannot allow a culture to maintain if they want to join.