Captain Morgan Bateson of the Bozeman

Star Trek The Next Generation Season 5 Episode 18 Cause and Effect

[@josephmassaro]

Worf: "We're being hailed, sir." Picard: "Open a channel." USS Bozeman: "You're on the air with Dr Fraiser Crane...I'm listening."

[@kellyweingart3692]

lol

[@donbrynelsen2157]

Did you bring the Tossed salad and scrambled eggs?

[@TheEDFLegacy]

Wait. WHAT?! I had no clue! 😮 That's on par with the shock I felt when I learned that Ro Laren (see in this clip no less) is BSG:RMS's Admiral Helena Cain!

[@chromedog68]

There's a meme about "Cheers" being just a holodeck simulation. Kelsey "Frazier" Grammer was in ST The actress who played Lilith (Frazier's ex-wife) was in ST "Guinan" was in "Cheers" So was "Data" (Brent Spiner was, anyway). Amongst a few others. (there were usually several things being shot in the same area, different studio lots. If ST needed a guest actor and one was available locally, they would get an offer to be on it.)

[@WilbertLek]

Was gonna say something similar... ;-)

[@Elthenar]

Man, Kelsey Grammer would have made a great captain for a Star Trek show

[@Elthenar]

@@TheTransporter007 Even with that tattoo on his dick!

[@RamblerGambler]

@@TheTransporter007 I like to imagine that Capt Bateson is the Starfleet version of Tom Dodge. He got command of the Bozeman after outfoxing a Constitution Class cruiser in war games using a crew of misfits and a ship from the Earth-Romulan war.

[@markmed9091]

Excellent comment . At least expand the “ Bozeman story line in future airings .

[@mikej9470]

Boy, do I have an episode of TNG for you to watch!

[@Roddy229]

@@Elthenar in the books, he comes back. Commands two different sovereign class ships. Including the Enterprise-E before J.L Picard takes command

[@Fizzlefuse]

Honestly I was kind of sad the episode ended there and that we had no sequal to it. I would love to have seen Picard explain the situation to captain Bateson and how he and his crew had to deal with the fact they've been stuck in a temporal causality loop for over 80 years. It could've made for a very interesting episode.

[@TXKafir]

Yeah, they should've skipped one trip through the loop so they would have time for that scene.

[@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641]

Me too... Instead of showing basically the same scenes over and over again...

[@Lurker1979]

They sort of did in novel form. They had one based on this captain, taking place after this episode.

[@Theomite]

THANK YOU!!! FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT!! This has driven me fucking nuts for over 20 years (on and off). I mean, you only use Kelsey Grammer for 30 seconds in the whole series?! Bullshit.

[@riogrande5761]

Yep, it ended where there was more story to be told. Being moved 80+ years into the future and then no way back, and having to adjust to a new reality, that would have warranted a followup episode or at least a longer piece of this one. Shame.

[@wineandwaistcoats]

I love that Captain Bateman doesn't note the different uniforms as being strange, only the unfamiliar vessel: even in universe they've become blasé about starfleet uniforms completely changing in the span of 3 weeks.

[@mardus_ee]

Star Trek: Discovery and later have by now established, that Starfleet uniforms may be different ship-to-ship. In-universe, it can be explained, that ship crews returning from long-term missions might have older uniforms. Interestingly, TNG, DS9, and Voyager were very consistent with setting certain uniforms for certain eras, and that each model of uniform was used for quite a bit of time - a bit like in real life, when uniforms from different eras don't really change too much, but an untrained eye can spot a difference between, say, a WWII-era U.S. Army/Navy uniform, and something from a recent era. Army/Navy uniforms have looked different, like, between WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Gulf War, the U.S. war in Afghanistan and the Iraq War. The appearance of combat uniforms changes faster than that of service dress uniforms. Once Allies began supplying uniforms and other war materiel to Ukraine for its defense, then Ukrainian military men and women began using a hodgepodge and mishmash of own and different allies' uniforms. A trained eye can tell which element is from which country, which would be fun for an astute observer.

[@patrickm6012]

Capt Picard, why are you and your crew wearing such tight ass uniforms?

[@bjb7587]

​@@patrickm6012And who is that shapely woman with the long dark hair?

[@paulb5571]

It is an interesting but reasonable thing to explain. Starfleet encompasses so many planets, systems and species that it is simply impossible to keep everything up to date. Even if there were an absolute center of the Federation to make the final decision on a update to uniforms, that change would need to radiate outward from that central authority. Think of how long it takes for technology to be phased in and out on Earth, then imagine a organization that spans an entire quadrant of our galaxy. By the time a change gets from one end to another, the gear is already outdated. It wouldn't stop with uniforms either. Assumably each species/system has their own ships and technology aside from Starfleet's. They would each be adding minor advances to ship design, medicine, computer programs, replicator recipes, etc. It wouldn't be a surprise if a lot of Starfleet ships were a inane hodgepodge of different technologies.

[@thespacesbetweenstudio3346]

the old uniforms looked cooler. He didn't want to embarrass the Enterprise crew by saying they look like cadets.

[@evrbody]

"Maybe we could use the tractor beam to push the other ship away." "Oh for God's sake, Niles!"

[@njb1126]

Martin: oh geez fras why don’t you just blow the air outta the shuttlebay?

[@dtz1000]

Just the type of comment i was looking for.

[@salvationsplace]

I can “see” Niles pushing the air with both hands and rocking forward as hes saying it…

[@crystalblue5406]

🤣

[@mm-gl7sz]

@@salvationsplace kind of like when he tried to kill eels with a meat cleaver

[@j.griffin]

“The Vulcan Science Directive has determined that time travel is impossible.” “That’s why we have no Vulcans onboard.”

[@brandonlink6568]

And just a century later the Federation would be using time travel routinely and shockingly casually to better record historical events.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Nobody remembers poor Taurik...

[@brandonlink6568]

@@chrissonofpear1384 Taurik was a temporal anomaly, Temporal Affairs 'cleaned up' his timeline before Vorik began his service on Voyager.

[@christopherg2347]

They were going of their knowledge of the time, unwilling to accept any circumstantial evidence. They since had ample empirical evidence it was possible. Vulcans are stubborn, but not *that* subborn they ignore that mountain of irrefuteable evidence. They just do not accept anything less. Unless it is for Micro Wormholes, that was a fad for them somehow.

[@rodneyblake5495]

I don't get it, wasn't it Spock that suggested using it in "The Voyage Home" and his timeline was way before this episode. 1986 vs 1992

[@thnd3rb1rd]

It always killed me that the episode ended before the discussion took place.

[@pbdye1607]

They couldn't afford Kelsey for any longer than that, I'm guessing.

[@andreabindolini7452]

That was the correct ending.

[@danielmarinucci9342]

It should have ended with Captain Picard asking captain bateson to come aboard.

[@krisdphillips]

If you want to see how it ended there is a book about this very thing.

[@johnbockelie3899]

"Captain, what year is it?." "2278, ........you can't be Enterprise, .... where is Captain James T. Kirk ?."

[@Josh_Fredman]

Patrick Stewart's long pause when Picard is told that their clocks are 17 days off, and then his simple "Reset them, Mr. Data," is a masterpiece of acting. It's absolutely astonishing the way his timing and tone of voice encapsulate their whole adventure and release all of that tension.

[@fredocarroll]

They should have added a line, though: "And Mr. Worf, dispatch a message to Starfleet Command. Advise them that the _Enterprise_ is safe and on-station in the Typhon Expanse, and we will send a detailed report of recent events shortly." You have to think that Starfleet was pretty worried about the disappearance of the fleet flagship and its 1,000-odd inhabitants.

[@WYCD]

02:34 Mr. Worf checks the clock.

[@campbellmaclure7386]

Exactly

[@u.hinson6300]

Brent spiner is an incredible actor in this role.

[@christopherg2347]

@@fredocarroll It is not like they are calling home daily or anything. That would just wear out the subspace transmitters, making the potentially inoperable when needed. And the Enterprise D specifically had to deal with half-day communications delays several time. That is how far out they were.

[@myflippinggoodness8821]

I love it Picard thinks "oh shit, everyone this guy has ever known is dead, and I gotta break it to him" *Triumphant outro music*

[@rcgingerbok2944]

Well given McCoy was still alive at the start of TNG maybe not everyone....but most

[@bensisko4651]

I love Trek, but that is its style. For example, I remember in "The Ultimate Computer" episode of TOS, hundreds of Starfleet personnel were killed in a war games exercise/experiment gone horribly wrong and they're laughing at the end of the episode lol.....

[@boscovilante4068]

imo the triumphant music is almost certainly about how delighted they are to have hired KG for his cameo.

[@alexanderjones9572]

@@rcgingerbok2944 Just read the beginning of ‘Ship of the Line’- which begins in 2278. Bateson knows Spock as well, according to that book. One discrepancy in the book tho- the woman standing beside Bateson? Who is she? His first officer, who should have been there according to the book, was a man called Gabriel Bush.

[@MoeLaneIII]

From what I hear, Captain Bateson has been having himself a fine old time in the 24th Century.

[@Sarasdad91]

The meeting with Captain Bateson and his crew could've made a whole episode. This was sadly a missed opportunity to make this a 2 part.

[@raven4k998]

all main systems just went down they should have panicked and had the women and children get into the escape pods as a precaution then if the captain screams abandon ship they could just hit eject and be safe while the ship explodes

[@fadlya.rahman4113]

The missed opportunity is to not name the character as Captain Frasier Crane.

[@michaelmchugh2471]

Why the women? ​@@raven4k998

[@DarqeDestroyer]

I always felt bad for the downtimers in situations like this. Imagine suddenly finding out that you're now stuck 80 years in the future just like that. You kissed your wife goodbye 3 weeks ago, but you can't go back to her now, because she died of old age decades ago. Your kids are octogenarians older than you. I think most people would be mentally destroyed by this.

[@pwnmeisterage]

The "mental destruction" would be worse, I think. The displacement you already described - the world they left from, completely gone, the people and things they knew all lost forever. Along with the world they arrived in completely unknown, they suddenly find themselves as obsolete as a WWI cavalryman would be today. But also ... The Enterprise crew was stuck in the loop for "17.4 days" objective time. They repeated the same events over and over again, several times - a dozen times? several dozen times? - and were vaguely perceiving "echoes" of impending events from previous loops: intense deja vu, "hallucinations", "precognition", etc. The Bozeman crew was stuck in the loop for 90 years. Subjectively longer than their entire lifespans up to that point. Repeating the same events many thousands of times. Imagine what that would have done to their minds, during the loops, after escaping the loops.

[@dyneofnaut]

Thankfully the Federation has excellent (free) mental health counseling. They might even have experience with something like this before.

[@NerdTalkDan]

Theoretically they could pull the slingshot maneuver and travel back to their time. But Beta canon has them staying in the present with Captain Bateson helping do shakedown cruises for the Sovereign Class starships.

[@michaeldemarco9950]

@@pwnmeisterage, if Enterprise’s destruction caused the distortion, Bozeman might have only experienced it once, just like the rest of the universe.

[@joeswanson733]

@@NerdTalkDan turns out in universe the solar slingshot maneuver is a top secret only starfleet command highest levels is made aware of and the enterprise crew under kirk that pioneered that maneuver. we would assume why it's kept under such tight wraps as time travelling is dangerous business. grandfather paradoxes. predesination paradoxes. just paradoxes.

[@VCYT]

Picard - 'Captain Bateson, your voice sounds familiar ' Captain Bateson - '' yes, i used to have a call-in radio show ''

[@LGranthamsHeir]

"Come on in, caller, this is Captain Morgan Bateson. I'm listening!!"

[@dwlopez57]

Of course I sound familiar. I have tried many times to kill Bart Simpson. Sadly, I've always failed. But not next time!

[@rbbecker73]

The bald guy just doesn't recognize him without his blue fur.

[@josiahzabel8596]

maybe he's a descendant... Frasier did have a son...

[@michaeldemarco9950]

“Hello, Captain. I’m listening.”

[@hmartinspliff]

0:51 Haha, "Shields up and evasive maneouvres!" Riker has seen Star Trek 2......he's not taking any chances in case it's Khan in control of that ship.

[@epicstyle1000]

love that comment

[@BedsitBob]

@F P And Khan had died long before then.

[@ThreePointOneFou]

The story of the Enterprise-v.-Reliant battle and the importance of General Order 12 would almost certainly have been drilled into every command officer's head ever since it happened, particularly given that said battle resulted in several deaths among the Enterprise trainee crew (including the chief engineer's nephew) as well as that of the first officer (well, sort of). Kirk got lucky that Khan, for all his brilliance, allowed his desire for revenge to ultimately get the better of him.

[@Paul-jy8cv]

@@ThreePointOneFou ya if khan had been smart he would have targeted the bridge and fired after IDing him self

[@shavedata5436]

@@BedsitBob Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey...

[@tyharris9994]

For those of you wishing for a sequel to this episode, there is a Star Trek novel that picks up where this episode ends telling the story of how Captain Bateson and his crew fare in their new time. It's called " Ship of the Line." Hint- they all have 80 years of StarFleet seniority for postings.

[@stupidnamefilter]

But that's stupid. They weren't on duty for 80 years, they don't have 80 more years of experience. Then again, setting novels like Star Trek and Star Wars tend to be pretty awful...

[@opfragile]

@@stupidnamefilter listen, they've been in a time loop for 80 years, their family and friends are long gone. the least starfleet can do is let them have the same silver lining. I hope they had savings accounts with some nice interest rates.

[@torshavnnewell]

​@@opfragilewhat interest rates and saving accounts though? For Latinum and Ferengi dealings?

[@snarkymoosesshack8793]

@@torshavnnewell But of course

[@junelipinski2025]

Excellent read for sure!

[@KGillis]

Imagine standing on the shuttle deck of the Enterprise, minding your own business, and suddenly you become propellant for the ship because a robot decided to open the window.

[@andrewparnell5566]

Hopefully that flurry of button pushing included transporting them out. Hopefully. :)

[@NeonVisual]

All of that button pressing Data was doing though just to open the door, I bet he was manually beaming everyone out first or setting up force fields around them.

[@iami3rian394]

@@NeonVisual there's no way he had to hit all those keys just to open the shuttle bay. You're probably right, he likely had to site to site them out, while overriding the safety protocols, and bolting down the shuttles. I'm not entirely certain anyone is ever stationed in there when it's not being used, though.

[@NeonVisual]

@@iami3rian394 The main shuttle bay is huge. It takes up two entire decks of the saucer section from front to back, left to right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIDcZI1ootp7sJI

[@baneblackguard584]

@@iami3rian394 probably had to disengage security locks to get the force field to drop, ensure that shuttles and containers were secured prior to emergency decompression.

[@shaundis2117]

So , the Bozeman went in 80 years ago and the space distortion kept them in limbo untill the Enterprise tweaked it again to release it ...How many other ships are out there in cosmic Bermuda triangles ...?

[@3adgamd3r]

shaundis buddyguy well something different could’ve happened to the Bozeman, but they were only released when the Enterprise broke its causality loop. For example they could’ve been reliving the same day for 80 years until they encountered the Enterprise.

[@shaundis2117]

@@3adgamd3r buuut the loop is re-set by the collision though . It kinda looks they were just stuck there waiting in limbo for the Enterprise to arrive . Like the distortion was a " an 80 year time pause " in space . If the Enterprise never showed up they may have been stuck in there indefinitely.

[@jdmaxi187]

It was a highly localized distortion of the space-time continuum. So they couldve just traveled through it and be stuck in the causality loop in the Enterprise's "present" for just as long as the Enterprise

[@shaundis2117]

@@jdmaxi187 but is the Bozeman in the distortion before the Enterprise's arrival . I'm probably looking too far into it from the Bozeman's perspective . They left starbase 3 weeks ago and then" Bam* crash into the Enterprise 80 years ahead . So the Bozeman was in a 80 year time limbo in the distortion . The loop was created by the crash and lasted for 17 days no ?

[@jdmaxi187]

@@shaundis2117 no, i'd say they distortion also caused them to move through time

[@BryonLape]

Ensign Rho before someone made her an Admiral and she went all nuts.

[@ivanfreely6366]

@MÅGÅ TÊÅRS ARË HÜMÅÑ NÏRVÃNÃ Adm. Helena Cain in Battlestar Galactica.

[@dplatt7290]

"Dammit, Niles, you just had to stop at the Duty Free for that 100 year old Rigellian Brandy."

[@paulapsley3712]

I remember being blown away by this when it first aired. One of the best episodes of TNG.

[@brandonpeterman9964]

Were you in the main shuttle bay?

[@mertz7305]

Even as I kid, when the opening ran, I remember thinking, "YEAH. Like to see how there gonna get out of THIS one...!"

[@Michael_Sinclair]

They really had some brilliant writers back then.

[@BYERE]

I always love time travel stories, and that probably stems from watching this episode and other similar stories as a child

[@Nickelodeon81]

​@@brandonpeterman9964😂

[@deathstrike]

In the books, Captain Morgan Bateson and his crew adapt to the 24th Century and especially Bateson, is eventually given the USS Atlas, a Sovereign Class Starship which he commands with distinction. Also, "Bulldog Bateson" was one of the founding reasons that the Sovereign Class was even built. He helped in its development being a Captain who was not a normal Starfleet graduate, but a member of the Federation Border Patrol. His experience helped to create a ship which excelled at long range patrol, scientific, and defense and truly honored the Sovereign Class with her sister ships USS Sovereign, USS Enterprise E, and USS Atlas.

[@andrewnlarsen]

And in those same books he and his crew are given one of the Sovereigns which they name Bozeman-A. And in the books that Bozeman-A was at the Battle of Sector 001. He gets the Bozeman-A before he gets the USS Atlas.

[@Mikedeela]

"And people say space is so big." - Captain Janeway

[@HimboJimbo]

The swag of everyone walking out onto the bridge at the start is something else

[@Warmaker01]

Because I grew up watching the TOS crew's movies, I have a very soft spot in my heart for the uniforms and ship designs of that era.

[@lucasvincent2875]

Loved seeing Kelsey Grammer sitting in the captains chair. Sadly, he missed out on another opportunity during the 30th anniversary special. The entire cast of Frasier assumed command of the Voyager and hilarity ensues. Grammer, however, was getting the help he so really needed at that moment, and i applaud him for prioritizing well. It is a cute sketch...

[@chinabluewho]

I would have liked to see more of that girl behind on bridge (his first officer?) she looks like a hotter version of Dana Delaney.

[@leventetanka754]

@@chinabluewho Sorry, but hotter than Dana Delaney? That's not possible.

[@halleck3]

It was an epic little sketch. Janeway was stoic, Daphne and Roz on point, Martin was Martin, Niles couldn't remember his lines and was still funny as hell... kept excepting to see Frasier beam aboard but... yeah... he wasn't around.

[@ForceMaximus84]

@@chinabluewho The producers apparently wanted Kirstie Alley to return as Saavik for the bit, but she asked for too much money.

[@bryanferratt6598]

@@leventetanka754Lois Lane 😄.

[@bcdside]

This makes the “Frasier” episode with Patrick Stewart - “The Doctor Is Out” - even funnier!!!!!!

[@AndrewChapman]

"Oh Frasier, please don't tell me you're still struggling with those issues."

[@TheBoomhahaha]

I'm surprised Bateson didn't call when Riker was talking about scrambled eggs

[@stingyblue8189]

This is one of my favorite episodes of TNG. I feel so sorry for Captain Bateson and his crew. I heard on another channel that it’s written in Star Trek apocrypha that they never returned to their time, but they continued to serve in Star Fleet in the 24th Century. I would love to hear the conversation between Bateson and Picard.

[@Chiron84]

Bateson continuing to serve Starfleet is canon. He makes a brief appearance in season 3 of Lower Decks.

[@LudditesRUs]

You also hear him in Star Trek: First Contact during the Borg attack on Earth. Kelsey Grammar acknowledges and order addressed to the USS Bozeman.

[@xeroxcopycat]

Also, I believe he's involved in the events of the "Ships of the Line" novel which happens just before the launch of the Enterprise-E.

[@johnbutler1323]

​@@Chiron84the Bozeman is also referenced in Generations as having to change course due to the destruction of the Armigosa star.

[@gregquinn7817]

​@@LudditesRUsI can see them all staying in service...maybe after a year long special course at the academy to catch them up in the political and technical updates, especially since most all their family would be dead (except for the Vulcans and a few other species)...what else to do but stay in starfleet. But the ship itself was super old...even with upgrades.

[@billnotice9957]

On the bright side for the crew of the Bozeman! Imagine all that back pay and everyone on board is immediately eligible for max retirement!

[@HacksignKT]

they don't get paychecks

[@Dafeaz]

"You mean you don't get paid?!" - Lily Sloane, Star Trek: First Contact

[@Iceican]

star trek is based in a socialist dystopia im afraid they won't get paid.

[@cypher515]

@@Iceican It's based on a socialist utopia, get your terminology correct. If you're about to say "no such thing" bite your tongue and comfort yourself with the fact that before Sir Thomas More used the word, utopia meant "nowhere".

[@Iceican]

@@cypher515 that is a matter of opinion one mans utopia is another dystopia.

[@ScarletSpiderDave]

I like how captain Bateson appears so comfortable in his chair even after almost crashing into another ship. He reminds me of Kirk here. Such a great bit of acting for a short scene, and the set and uniforms (re-used from Star Trek VI) add a lot as well.

[@Nekzus]

In an early draft of the script, Kirstie Alley was set to re-appear as Saavik. Scheduling conflicts prevented it.

[@tavnazian4613]

That is such a shame.

[@turbopokey]

U sure it wasn't costuming conflict prevented it? As in Alley couldn't get her giant @$$ into a costume anymore?

[@erikseidler793]

Imagine Morn and Norm meeting.

[@AWriterWandering]

​@@turbopokey Kristie Alley only started to gain weight in the early '00s, as a result of hitting menopause. She was still slim and fit at the time of this episode’s airing.

[@otomicans6580]

Imagine her in All Good Things: Kirste Alley of the past, present and future...

[@tuxedotservo]

Seeing a Klingon in a Federation uniform must've blown Bateson's mind.

[@andrewchin6211]

It did Scotty in the episode Relics.

[@kali3665]

The Autobiography of James Kirk introduced the character of **Ensign** Morgan Bateson as Kirk's first Yeoman (Janice Rand would be next), allowing a connection to the earliest days of the Star Trek franchise. Sure wish they'd have Bateson return so we can see how being a century out of time affected him.

[@okeefe757]

Man, I wish they made this a two parter episode. I mean I know you could say they kind of did a similar story in the episode: Relics. But I'm just as interested in the reintegration of the crew of the Bozeman into TNG's timeline. Maybe moreso, since Relics was kind of a stunt episode about Scotty. I mean I know this has Kelsey Grammar and everything. But there are a lot more 23rd century people involved on the Bozeman.

[@Ozzy_2014]

The Department of Temporal Affairs novels deals with this business.

[@deadendfriends1975]

Could have been brilliant

[@notunremarkable]

The Bozeman was mentioned in First Contact when the fleet engaged the Borg.

[@okeefe757]

@@notunremarkable Most likely a deferent vessel named Bozeman. I could be wrong. I know there were Miranda class vessels fighting in First Contact, but who knows.

[@georgedarkrender388]

Read: Ship Of The Line

[@trymetal95]

Can you imagine how it must have been to suddenly come out of a phenomena and be confronted by a massive 700m long Federation ship that's probably three times the size of the biggest ship in your time? It'd be like a battleship from 1890 being transported to 1990 and being confronted by a Nimitz class supercarrier.

[@HariSeldon913]

Interesting choice of ship there, since the Nimitz time traveled back to 1941 briefly.

[@1heKing]

@@HariSeldon913 philedelphia experiment?

[@HariSeldon913]

@@1heKing "The Final Countdown" 1980, Kirk Douglass, Martin Sheen.

[@captainbryce1]

@@HariSeldon913 Didn’t the Nimitz go through a wormhole similar to the Enterprise C in Yesterday’s Enterprise?

[@therealtampadude9175]

@Robert Smith Shit yeah, it was. Loved the Tomcats vs. Zeros scene. BRRRRRRRRT!

[@GoGreen1977]

When I first saw this years ago, I couldn't understand why Captain Bateson didn't react more strongly to Picard mentioning the Enterprise. He should've responded by saying something along the lines of "You're not the Enterprise! Where's Kirk? Who are you?" I'm not up on the details of the longer Star Trek timeline, so if Kirk (or Spock) were not the captain of the Enterprise during his original time, Bateson still would've been surprised to see Picard on the bridge of this strange ship called the Enterprise. I just felt Bateson's response was rather restrained and he should have been given more lines.

[@kadindarklord]

The Ship of the Line Book (for all it's many flaws.) does expand on this scene. However, the book whilst improving this scene... does have it's issues. For instance, there's no woman on the book's version of the bridge.

[@koolkev2020able]

@GoGreen, You make an excellent point.

[@josephmassaro]

One possible explanation is that Bateson thought everything was normal from his perspective and that Picard and his crew had come through the temporal anomaly they had detected. In reality, it was the Bozeman that had entered Picard's era and not the other way around as Bateson may have believed.

[@thedavecorp]

Or "Do you know what year this is?"

[@mypal3561]

hmm but if a Romulan Warship appaeared and identified itself as the Mary Rose would your first thought be to ask "where's Henry Tudor" or Christopher Columbus?

[@holyknightthatpwns]

The time from Data saying when the collision would be and the ships passing each other is actually pretty close to 36 seconds. One of the only times a tv show actually times something accurately

[@Armageddon2077]

Fun fact... the Bozeman (and line delivery from Kelsey Grammar) is mentioned via hails (audio online) during Star Trek: First Contact

[@mervynanip9925]

That final frame, where the Bozeman and Enterprise were side by side, old meets new. It gives me the goosebumps.

[@mito-pb8qg]

Doesn't really give a sense of scale...the D's saucer alone is like almost twice as wide as the Bozeman is long.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Funny thing is the Bozeman served in the Dominion War. I bet it's that Miranda that keeps surviving. "We spent 80 years in a temporal loop! We AIN'T FUCKING DYING TODAY!"

[@Matty272]

While he shouldn’t have recognized Picard or the Enterprise D, he definitely should have recognized the name Enterprise.

[@tristenmiddleton526]

old ship or not, i am LOVING the Bozeman's top-mounted dual canons!

[@slimdudeDJC]

No matter what century, you can still ride shotgun!

[@mightymac63]

@@slimdudeDJC ybqqqqwdqq

[@Roundymooney]

A starship with hull mounted clergy? What a novel idea?

[@crsrdash-840b5]

Those were not phaser cannons. Those were sensor devices. They were used as a prototype array to scan further into space without needing a sensor bouyee.

[@tristenmiddleton526]

@@crsrdash-840b5 where'd you see that? cuz I read Soyez class ships were specifically built for policing/combat

[@nagualdesign]

Data's great in a crisis. His hands are so quick! After deliberating with the captain, then sitting there for a minute, he leapt into action! It's a shame there was no time to warn all the redshirts working in the main shuttle bay.

[@mhelvens]

Dead crewmen? But captain... Three! I had to do it because... Three!

[@walterdayrit675]

Just hope someone immediately noticed those guys were spaced out of the shuttle bay. Teleporting them into sickbay immediately would have helped.

[@aaronre29]

He’s not that great. They looped a bunch of times thanks to him. His teraquads of computations couldn’t predict that Riker was right?

[@nagualdesign]

@@aaronre29 _Pssst.._ You kinda missed the humour there, buddy. Try re-reading the thread. 😉

[@christopherg2347]

We saw no redshirst fly out, so I guess that part was empty at the time. And/or they manage to run out in time. Or they were simply working in that observation area. If you are working in a place that is one forcefield failure or accidental button push from decompression, you learn to react fast. And not linger on the wrong side of the airlock.

[@ryangatheright2435]

Man oh man if I was on the Bozeman and I just learned what happened… My life would for sure be a world of tossed salad and scrambled eggs!

[@ForceMaximus84]

I wonder if Bateson was thinking, “If that’s the Enterprise, where’s Jim Kirk?”.

[@andrewchin6211]

That's exactly what Scotty was thinking in the Relics episode.

[@deslang7563]

The Bozeman was put back into service, it had to make a course correction in "Generations"

[@gdon12987]

Crashing into the Enterprise, can't steer straight. Man, the Bozeman is a danger to all ships in Federation space!

[@robertmcevey3773]

It was also in first contact during the attack Picard started on the Borg cube.

[@mito-pb8qg]

@@gdon12987 Maybe that's why they still used it. One big homing antimatter missile.

[@NashmanNash]

@@mito-pb8qg Nah...they repurposed Oberths for that...The reason why the Cube in First Contact was already damaged was because of Kamikaze Oberths^^

[@jdunn813]

It's more likely that when Bateson's Bozeman disappeared, it was eventually declared lost and its name and registry transferred to another ship. The Bozeman that we hear about in Generations and First Contact would certainly be a newer class of ship, having retired the Soyuz-class.

[@Levi_Skardsen]

It's a bit of a missed opportunity for the captain of the Bozeman to mention, in disbelief, that the ship he's looking at is the Enterprise.

[@NashmanNash]

I also like that HE offers assistance..he does have sensors right?"Hey Ship that is vastly superior to ours...can we help you?"

[@ryuli1]

@@NashmanNash I think in his perspective as he is coming out a ship is coming towards him that nearly misses him in all of space 😆 it was like bozeman yelling at them

[@Eshanas]

@@NashmanNash Yea he's thinking it's the enterprise coming to him, from the future. He's not suspecting that he's going into their future. Starfleet isn't alien to Time Travel, and while we don't know when the Department of Temporal Investigations came to be, most starfleet captains probably know that time travel is possible, at least after what Kirk pulled off. But I wonder how many times they've been the 'recipient' of time travel than the 'gift' itself. There was this neat animation where a 24th century Excelsior got sent back to the 23rd Kirk TOS time, I wish I could find it again....

[@excrono]

This is metaphorically what watching all seasons of “Frasier” feels like to me. A temporal causality loop I never want to escape from. “What year is this?” 1998. (Shakes head).

[@williamr1088]

Remember that time when Frasier read a poem for his son Frederick in Klingon?

[@LGranthamsHeir]

"That's not gibberish, that's Klingon!"

[@bad74maverick1]

Star Mitzvah is the name of that episode. Just binged the whole series. "Woo Hac Ooh pac ahah. it's a blessing to my son." "That's just gibberish".

[@Turboy65]

After this episode, the Bozeman remained in service (I presume the crew got refresher training, HUGE paychecks for 90 years of duty, and the ship received essential updates and refitting) and fought alongside the Defiant in the battle against the Borg cube in First Contact in 2373, five years after this episode occurred.

[@johnfic4751]

A novel went further on this story. It's a good read. I recommend it.

[@TKDMaze92]

It was also affected by the explosion of the Amargosa-sun in Star Trek Generations.

[@douglasdavis8395]

And no money in the 24th-century Federation

[@Turboy65]

@@douglasdavis8395 That's a myth. Definitely there was money in the federation, but not everybody wants to admit it. Crewmen had no trouble using money at various off-world locations like Space Station K-7 and other ports of call.

[@douglasdavis8395]

@@Turboy65 - I know that, of course. I was just tossin' the salad tryin' to start a Trekker ruckus.

[@cubdukat]

This episode also had another “Cheers” cameo: they tried to get the late Kirstie Alley to reprise Saavik. She would have been his Number One.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

What about Ted Danson? Could he have appeared as Guinan's brother?

[@VoIPPortland]

Down Periscope was underrated.

[@LGranthamsHeir]

"Frasier has left the building!!'

[@Scipio488]

I LOVE that movie.

[@kencf0618]

One of my favorite ST:TNG episodes... Not only for the logical deduction throughout, but for finesse of the blast from the past.

[@Ben82077]

(Bozeman comes through the time distortion, misses the enterprise) Worf: Sir, I’m detecting a transmission coming from the Bozeman. Picard: On speakers 🎼...Where everybody knows your name. And they’re always glad you came. You wanna go where everyone knows your name.🎼 Picard: 😐

[@margotrosendorn6371]

They got a little captain in them

[@LGranthamsHeir]

Picard: On speakers! Song: "Hi baby I hear the blues calling for tossed salads and scrambled eggs, oh my!!."

[@nigelmurphy6761]

Nice!

[@brucel399]

Oh what fresh Hell is this.... Bahahaha

[@michaellyczak9337]

I always marveled at the foresight of the engineers who designed the bridge of the Enterprise, and this episode shows why - the ship might still be in temporal limbo if the designers hadn't provided a handy spot right behind the navigator for Ryker to rest his foot on so he could lean over.

[@arbutuswatcher]

"Dad, did Eddie piss on the environmental controls again." Gives a whole new meaning to tossed salad & scrambled eggs!

[@ConvergenceMedia]

Who else came here after Bateson was mentioned on Lower Decks?

[@alvisceratortheultimate1660]

I did.

[@eswnl1]

I like how Geordie's comment about the Soyuz class not being around for 80 years precisely sets up this scene.

[@ryanbaker979]

How they filmed this episode was brilliant! I also wish Kelsey got more time on screen as a captain.

[@Spacegoat92]

Picard: This is Captain Jean Luc Picard of the Federation star ship Enterprise. Bateson: Wait. Did you say Enterprise? Jim Kirk is supposed to be in command of that ship, and your ship looks nothing like the Enterprise...Who are you??? Picard: I think you need to beam over to our ship there's something we need to discuss.... Dunno about you but i would have liked to have seen a Kirk nod, i mean everyone knew about the Kirk...

[@Vagus32000]

The Kirk and The Sisko are legends.

[@darrenkrivit6854]

"There's something we need to discuss"......"and it'll blow your freakin' mind"!

[@srujan00]

Surprised he didn't say anything when there was a Klingon (Worf) on the bridge.

[@MarcMiller22]

I like the subtlety of that line. He's respecting that the rest of the Boseman crew may not have caught onto what has happened yet (any more than Captain Batesman), and will privately discuss the need for a plan to acclimate them.

[@HariSeldon913]

It won't shock him as much as what his dad has been doing in Miami. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rom0amqFjM6FmKc

[@njb1126]

Picard: there’s something we need to discuss Bateson: I’m listening

[@AthenaSaints]

Cause and Effect, 18th episode of Star Trek TNG season 5 (aired in 1991~1992). The year is 2368. 2368-2278 = 90. Trapped in the causality loop for 90 years.

[@animemanXLK]

It just occurred to me you could base an entire series around this concept. A ship blasted into the future characters dealing with the fact former enemies are now allies.

[@Spectahman2.0]

I love the fact that Lower Decks had Kelsey Grammer return as Bateson. Just proves the writers actually love Trek.

[@bryanferratt6598]

And "FARTS" 😄!

[@zoso1980]

Too bad Lower Decks, once you get away from the fan service, it's just so utterly tosses all the military type protocols and seriousness, it becomes a fan service parody while missing the core of what TNG was about.

[@KGillis]

"Soyuz class? They haven't been in service for nearly 80 years" Meanwhile, half of the fleet is still made up of Miranda classes, which are almost identical, well into the Dominion War.

[@SGTBizarro]

Soyuz seems to be a variant of the Miranda platform, I guess they retired that particular variant and continued to focus their periodic overhauls on the Miranda alone, probably made things simpler.

[@Harleyglide03]

Kenny Gillis. Dude. I just saw this. I can’t believe I didn’t pick this up....... good shot........ I’m a Cpt. Kirk guy myself......

[@BELCAN57]

@jdslyman They're the "DC-3" of Starfleet.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

@@BELCAN57 and/or the C-130. Thing to remember about Mirandas. While they're not durable, those little fuckers are agile, and easy to mass-produce, and also require less than 100 crew. And can punch while above their weight. Sure, the Setac and Majestic went down escorting the Defiant, but if you watch Sacrifice of Angels, they went down firing.

[@2097Pyros]

@@michaelgreenwood3413 And thanks to Star Trek Online, they are highly customizable, including Soyuz pieces. You'd be surprised how much love that game has for the Miranda and it's design offshoots/precursors.

[@SvendleBerries]

"Im not sure what happened, but we nearly hit you." - Captain Morgan

[@edwardpate6128]

Too bad about those guys in the main shuttle bay doing maintenance! LOL

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

I think during a Red Alert, people go to various places to be ready to deal with sudden a sudden crisis; Probably shuttle bays are evacuated, holodecks are deactivated, civilians return to their quarters, School children hide under their desks, Etc.

[@DouglasZwick]

Fasten all seat belts, seal all entrances and exits, close all shops in the mall, cancel the three ring circus, secure all animals in the zoo

[@MLBlue30]

@@DouglasZwick What's the matter Colonel Sanders? CHICKEN?!

[@Koowluh]

My guess is that the shuttle bay is manned during red alert, but in secure areas where opening the shuttle bay door may raise a few eyebrows but won't affect the crew on duty. I doubt regular maintenance continues as normal during red alert. Forgive the r/woosh moment, although it is a fitting pun here with all the air being vented.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Or, maybe Edward is right, and Riker knew they'd have to make a decision _inmediately_ to sacrifice the three or four people in three to save the rest of the ship. 🙁

[@matthewsmith3078]

So this is how Charles Xavier met Hank McCoy in the original timeline…

[@mikecranapple8878]

Too bad Patrick Stewart never appeared on Cheers. That would have been a Triple Coincidence.

[@potsdam28]

@@mikecranapple8878 he appeared on Frazier

[@travislogan1482]

Great episode. Wish Captain Morgan Bateson and his crew had appeared in further episodes, such as DS9 episodes. It would have been fun.

[@phelimridley6727]

"Cause and Effect" a GREAT episode

[@StillJustDreaming]

I don't remember which book it was, but one of the Star Trek novels mentions how all these people who are shifted out of their own time get together for parties and such to stay connected to others who have gone through similar things. It actually has happened to a number of people throughout the various Star Trek shows. Just to name a few of them (I'm sure there are more) - Dr Gillian Taylor from Star Trek movie "The Voyage Home", the 3 cryogenically frozen people in the Next generation episode "The Neutral Zone" , the crew of the Bozeman that we meet here, Scotty once he gets to the 24th century...

[@samsignorelli]

Heh...one of the Star Trek writing clubs I was in involved our ship being thrown forward in time. One of the stories -- which a lot of us were involved in writing -- basically had the crew forming The Family...a very tight-knit group, due to the time change. I recall that we DID get new crew from the era we'd shot forward into, but they would rarely become Family members (didn't affect how the ship ran....it was more like a unit where some members have seen combat and others haven't)

[@Ty-yt3lj]

Apparently Bateson and Montgomery Scott were close friends after this, frequently joking that their friendship went back "a long way"

[@SudrianTales]

Thats a bit sad in a way given all they missed.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Notably, according to STO, most pf the Bozeman's crew ended up as part of Temporal Investigations. Bateson and Scotty also went on to design the Odyssey-class, the successor design to the Galaxy, one of which Picard commanded, the USS Verity.

[@jdunn813]

The Department of Temporal Investigations works with displaced persons to help them integrate into whatever time period they find themselves stranded. It's not uncommon for some of them to accept work with the DTI to help others in the same way. The woman that was unfrozen in "The Neutral Zone" was said to have become a DTI counselor. I believe much of the Bozeman crew eventually returned to Starfleet service. Captain Bateson was eventually given command of the Sovereign-class starship USS Atlas.

[@tachyontee3877]

Captain Morgan. *Raises leg.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Now THAT is a good eye!

[@onehundredstocks]

'Captain, Do You Know What Year This Is? 'Of Course I Do, Its 2278' Prehaps You Should Beam Aboard Our Ship, There is Something We Need To Discuss'! It Was So Heartbreaking Knowing That Captain Bateson, His Crew, The USS Bozoman Had Jumped 90 Years Into The Future To The Year 2368!

[@nightsage1961]

He said the Soyuz class had been out of service for 80 years, which means they were probably caught in the loop for much longer.

[@thephantomeagle2]

That's always been my thought. The Enterprise knew that something was wrong because they were in the time loop for a relatively short time. it's easy to know that you're repeating things if it happens over a few days. But if the Bozeman was in it for a few months, to a decade, then it would be easy to not realize that you're repeating things. This is especially true if you're just charting star systems, and not on a major voyage. If you are exploring dozens of similar planets per month, then you'll never know that you're seeing the same planets again and again because you the planets that you've seen seem like they're all the same whether they are or not.

[@vollelektrolysierer5773]

Season 5 of TNG is said to play in 2368 which puts the length of the Bozeman's timeloop at 90 years

[@malikmohamed6051]

@@vollelektrolysierer5773 so it makes sense if the Soyuz class was probably active in service for at least a few years

[@dwlopez57]

@@thephantomeagle2 could you repeat that please

[@LeeHutchingsdrumsUK]

For those of you who may be interested. The book ‘Ship of the Line’ explores Bateson and his crew in detail, including the immediate events following the conclusion of this episode.

[@kargaroc386]

At least in "Relics", Scotty had *some* reaction to hearing the name Enterprise.

[@derekwarr8567]

This was one of the best episodes of the entire series. I can still remember the chillbumps I got when this first came out and the Enterprise exploded

[@MrCrazyrob666]

"What about that tattoo? Doesn't it say 'Die Picard Die'?" "No that's Klingon for 'The Picard The'" "No one who speaks Klingon could be an evil man!"

[@NeoTechni]

ha

[@robbiereilly]

It's cool that the crew of the Bozeman are basically in the time era of Star Trek The Motion Picture with corresponding uniforms and bridge design. A nice connection bit of connecting two strings together.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

Technically after TMP. remember they had the weird uniforms, and it was the later TOS movies that moved onto the red ones we know and love.

[@brianjlevine]

@@michaelgreenwood3413 Season 1 and 2 of TNG basically had the same TMP uniforms, only with added color. Both casts hated 'em.

[@BoroMirraCz]

What I like about this ending is that it wasn't a reset. 99% of times you see an sci-fi episode about something/someone time-travelling to the present, about parallel universe dopplegangers or dopplegangers in general, it ends with the out-of-time/out-of-place elements conveniently erased (usually by committing some kind of heroic sacrifice). Here I love that Bozeman got to stay in the present. Of course, it wasn't followed upon (unless you count the mention of Bateson in Lower Decks) but I'm still glad there's some consequence to time travel effects.

[@ericfleet9602]

The mass of the USS Enterprise-D is 3.2 million metric tons or about 7,000,000,000 pounds. The mass of the air in a shuttle bay is just over 8,000 pounds (assuming the shuttle bay has dimensions of 100 feet x 100 feet x 10 feet, which is generously large. I could not find an exact schematic, but did look at a video, made an estimate then increased that estimate by a lot). ----------- If decompressing pushes the air out at an average of 60 mph (note that much of the gas would not expel at top speed because once the bay is partially evacuated, there is less air pressure to push out the remaining gas) ,, then the change in velocity of the Enterprise would have been slightly over four inches per hour. ------------------- If they executed this maneuver with 1 minute to spare (sounds like they had less), they would have succeeded in moving the enterprise roughly 1/15 of an inch before they were hit by the other ship. ------- Decompressing the main shuttle bay would have about as much effect as moving a fully loaded tractor trailer by farting on it.

[@crsrdash-840b5]

you got a point there...hmmm, never thought about it this way and in space too!

[@magnush5664]

You’re forgetting the shuttle bay force field. That is usually applying equal pressure to keep the air in. Data didn’t just take it down, he reversed the polarity at maximum power, to push the air out and provide the extra thrust needed.

[@ericfleet9602]

Hi Magnus, the force field will maintain a one atmosphere pressure in the shuttle bay. This is necessary so that human beings can actually walk in the shuttle bay. Let's say that you are right and "reversing the polarity" of the forcefield took it out at 600 mph instead of 60. Heck, lets say it sped it up to 6,000 mph. Oh what the hell, let's take it up to 60,000 mph which would have been practically magic. Even speeding it up by a factor of 1000 would have moved the ship roughly 5 feet per minute. Sorry, but there is no way this maneuver would have worked.

[@magnush5664]

Eric Fleet Yes, so perhaps you can calculate the amount by which Data needed to amplify the reversed Force field in order to push the air out fast enough to provide the necessary thrust.

[@ericfleet9602]

​@@magnush5664 He couldn't. Think about it... there is no such thing as a free lunch. You cannot magically get more energy out of a system than you put in. This means, he would have had to put enough energy into this very poor thrust system to push the air out and literally billions of miles per hour. A force field is NOT designed for this. A thrusting system wouldn't be able to do it, or they would have used that instead. There is simply no way this maneuver would have worked... I used incredibly high, ridiculously high numbers to demonstrate that already.

[@kawafahra]

Since the loop is connected to this specific event ( the starship crash ), both Bozeman as Enterprise are actually tied into that anomaly for 80 years. Yes, its confusing.

[@mmurray1983]

It's been 30 years and I STILL WANT TO SEE HIM BEAM OVER FOR THAT "SOMETHING TO DISCUSS"

[@nicholasmaude6906]

One of the things I loved about this episode was the appearance of the ST:II-VI era starfleet uniforms, IMO they are the best ever of all ST uniforms.

[@t8steve]

Im currently bingeing all of TNG for the first time, and just watched this episode today! I've been a HUGE fan of Frasier since the show aired and absolutely could not could not contain my excitement at seeing Kelsey Grammar here! It just makes that Frasier episode with Patrick Stewart even MORE delicious!!

[@reitasfangirl]

This is such a good episode! If anyone wants to know how they got into that causality loop or how they've adjusted to living in the 24th century, you should read the novel "Ship of the Line" by Diane Carey.

[@nagualdesign]

Is there an audiobook available, narrated by Kelsey Grammer? ☺

[@reitasfangirl]

that I don't know, but would be awesome!

[@seand2345]

@@nagualdesign There is an Audiobook version but it is not narrated by Kelsey Grammar

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Hmmm... Unfortunately, they were all probably killed in the war with The Dominion. 🙁

[@reitasfangirl]

Maybe some? But not all, I mean, Captain Bateson was referenced in several novels after that as well as the captain of a different ship later on.

[@IristheVix]

Enterprice C: Goes through temporal anomaly and the whole future gets fluffed up Bozeman: Goes through temporal anomaly -- business as usual.

[@EtoileLion]

Except from the Bozeman's perspective, the future could be 'fluffed up' - you're only seeing 'this' timeline, and assuming its the right one.

[@IristheVix]

@@EtoileLion Right?! There was no investigation from the Department of Temporal Investigation (not on TV anyway), there was no proactive change by the 29th or 31st century Temporal Agents, and they certainly didn't -- as far as I know -- try to send them back home by sling-shotting them around the sun, or even opening up a deflector whoop-whoop to macguffin them back home. It's not like they were really stuck there. Which, if they DID send them back home, then it would still be business as usual because they sent them back through their own means, then nothing would actually have changed. It would just be like a side hiccup, and they could minimize the amount of future knowledge they had. Though, Kelsey Bateman Crane would have probably had some mild antics with a female crewman at some point only to get slapped and lament about it later on.

[@bazzanoid1]

wibbly wobbly, timey wimey..... stuff. Certain events = fixed points etc

[@raynemichelle2996]

This was one of my favourite episodes of TNG as a kid, like a Trek Groundhog Day.

[@144Donn]

I am a BIG Trekkie and have been for decades and I have yet to watch Next Gen. Whenever I try watching, I have the same reaction I had when I watched the first time (when it premiered on TV) and I fell asleep. The sound track is SO BLAND! There is no beeping, nothing! It is like a sterile Dr's office and. It just lulls me to sleep.

[@leonardpauca8184]

Professor X and Beast have a word.

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

Interesting bit of trivia. In the Battle of Sector 001, you can hear references to the Bozeman in the background comms chatter. Apparently it went back into service (presumably after a _lot_ of refits). That's a bit like a USAF F-16 coming across a Sopwith Camel and deciding to strap air-to-air missiles on it, replace the engine with jets, and put it back into active service.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

not necessarily. could've been an entirely different ship with the same name.

[@mito-pb8qg]

While I like the analogy, I doubt they never named a ship Bozeman again after the one that zipped out of time. Only guessing of course, but they will have decomissioned it and maybe stuck it in a museum or something...it doesn't look particularly sophisticated even for the 2270's, I don't think there's a point in refitting it if you have to replace every single nut and bolt and its namesakes have already seen the light of day.

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

@@mito-pb8qg They refitted the original Enterprise, and they replaced basically everything from the saucer to the nacelles.

[@Matty272]

And that’s how Charles Xavier met Hank McCoy.

[@cine.musique]

he is awesome in anything

[@johnetheridge5833]

Cain went from driving the federation star ship enterprise in one universe to admiral of the battlestar pegasus in another universe

[@wristdisabledwriter2893]

Anyone else love the fact that data was wrong

[@dhinton1]

it does happen, on rare occasion. lol

[@IllidanS4]

Well, he was right... eventually.

[@halwasserman7905]

I love this episode so much.

[@jaimebabb9968]

For anyone curious to see more of this character, I recommend the novel "Ship of the Line" by Diane Carey.

[@ryankelly8783]

I would love to have heard that discussion. Judging by Star Trek First Contact i would say the Bozeman has been doing just fine.

[@deaconandrewkingtheinspira762]

WOW.... imagine that 80 years in the snap of a finger😨🤔

[@TheJTcreate]

Yup and you didn't even age in a second....lol

[@LordTalax]

All that you knew was lost

[@halwakka504]

Everyone you know is dead. That'd be fucked up.

[@michaelgreenwood3413]

@@halwakka504 Maybe not. Life Expectancy for humans at this point is about 150. That and many non-human species live well into their hundreds. so there's that.

[@TorontoLifeByRy]

Captain Bateson, Im listening

[@Ingens_Scherz]

Loved this episode. And I loved the Bozeman's great big space gun!

[@tammymartinez7488]

Ensign Ro before she became villainous admiral Cain!

[@craigmarriott6759]

But that came about because of her head injury caused by Romulan Commander Suran in 24.

[@rwarren58]

Ohmigod! I never noticed!! It is Admiral Cain! Thanks Tammy!