How to Charge The Ford F 150 Lightning Deep Dive

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Note: @16:30 in the video I say that you need to install the Charge Station Pro on a dedicated 100-amp circuit. That was the information we had at the time. Since then, I learned that you could de-rate the unit, all the way down to about 24-amps if you don't have the full 100-amp circuit to spare.

[@firestop232]

Tom, I have been looking for more detailed install info on the Charge Station Pro since I’m in Non-SunRun serviced State. I’m working with my electrician so I can future-proof my install should I want to add the SunRun HIS at a later date. There is very little information out there…no detailed Charge Station Pro install manual from Ford, only a reference to DC conductors (no conductor size info) in the online wiring schematic available via SunRun’s sales partner, and no response from SunRun’s Tech Support. I finally got a hold of Delta’s (the HIS manufacturer) and they confirmed the need for a #8 copper pair for the DC return. Any chance you could do an in-depth helpful install video for us who have to figure out our install w/o SunRun? I know Ford listens to you and I feel they need to know there customers in non-SunRun states have angst over the lack of info that SunRun shares with those who are not going to be there customers….. 😎

[@Wised1000]

A 100 amp circuit is more than some old houses which ran at 80 amps😮

[@michaelabelaj1581]

@@firestop232 #8 for how long of a run? I'm curious if you have been able to find info for a 75' run, which is the distance from my electric panel to my garage.

[@firestop232]

@@michaelabelaj1581 l don’t know…I’ve lost most of my enthusiasm for installing Ford’s/SunRun’s HIS…I will probably wait for the 2nd or 3rd generation solution. I just got my truck last week, so receipt of my FCSP, and any install info that comes with it, is at least 1+ week(s) out. At this point, I’ve stopped wondering about having the ability to provide power to my house from my truck…with all of the reported FCSP overheating problems being reported at the 80A setting, I just want a safe EVSE that charges my truck as promised……..

[@pstoneking3418]

If your truck indicates a ground fault you may have to have a qualified electrician isolate your ground and neutral.

[@bleep86]

This is a great video!! Never heard any of this detail before, not at this level. Never really gave that much thought as to what was needed and how much it would cost for V2H capability. I will be a 1st EV owner this year, either the R1T or the Lightning. Was an early pre-order holder for both. This video is exactly what is needed. Been a subscriber since seeing you on E for Electric. Thank you

[@Senerian]

They love customers like you.

[@dperez3437]

OK well you say not at my house but why can't I just use an AC to DC battery charger ? Really. You already know. I'm on that level 3 A/C to D/C charging from my own house using a standard battarie charger that I buy from Harbor Freight from under 100 buks probably. Level 3 stuff. So? I've explained this process to many peoples so it definatly will work. That's it done. All you do is use a battery charger for this. Now you on a level 3 charging from your house so simple. Oh and if you have solar panels at your house that makes it even easier. Dont have to convert the energy. Already comes in naturally as D/C

[@karlbloss]

Absolutely super! You've delivered so much great information in this video. As a Tesla owner, this makes me warm up to Ford EV product line. They've done a lot of things right.

[@jrsystems02]

As a first time owner of a Lightning I am very thankful for this video.

[@SuperFcsmith]

These videos seem to go on & on, Bla Bla Bla. It’s unbelievable how complicated it is because they released EV’s way to early to make them practical . Soon there will be college degrees for EVbatteryology.

[@thomaskerkhoff579]

Consumer based factual presentation! Good on ya!

[@FStoppers]

Would you please talk to ford and get details about how the house powering actually works? I live in Puerto Rico and the power goes out every few days. Will the truck instantly and automatically power my house or is this something I have to toggle on every time with an app?

[@JonathanRootD]

Most transfer switches have to be manually switched. Hoping this one is intelligent.

[@Marko343]

You're going to need the correct main line disconnect but I don't see how it can't be set up to be automatic and be current sensing on the grid side to see if power has returned. I don't think it would be instantaneous because you would need to disconnect power from the grid before turning on power from the truck.

[@FStoppers]

@@Marko343 how does a power wall do it instantly?

[@kennethclifford1863]

A third party solar company has to install a grid-tie inverter system between the Ford 80 amp evse and you're house. It will transfer automatically when utility power is lost and resume charging when utility power is restored. And you can set a lower battery limit so it doesn't completely drain the truck battery.

[@yobyotYT]

I’m not interested in an F-150 Lightning (maybe a GV60) but I still loved this video. Charging an EV is a different world and this video is full of basic and useful information.

[@donrobin8845]

Thanks for the deep dive, Tom. Sure would like to see a midsize electric pickup but I love the V2H power option. Since Tesla and Rivian are not offering this right now, this is probably my current direction. Plus that Cybertruck - blech!

[@fullyelectric]

Awesome 👏 content Tom, I am not a Truck guy but I out in to buy one of this truck for backup power for house .. cost less then putting in 130+kWh power wall..and if I ever need a truck i can use it too crazy 2 for 1 .. may even use it to run my mining rigs and use public free level 2 charging station to run the full thing crazy ..

[@ricky4673]

Wow dude, we have the same brain!

[@elche1976]

You're gonna pay 80k+ when you're not a truck guy? The 40k version won't be available to your average Joe, only to business fleet.

[@mikem8668]

Very well done. Best explanation I've seen. Thank you

[@geoffgeoff3333]

That's gotta be one of the most expensive offgrid home power options on planet Earth. $1,500 for an ABT?! My Generac whole house generator's RTS ABT cost $500 and I installed everything myself. Whatzup with Ford's SmartPower box? Does it take out the trash or clean the house, too? But, Thx4info Tom. Good info content as always!

[@CookeCraft]

Great video Tom.

[@gueorguitchantouria238]

As usual great video from Tom. I am also waiting for my F150 lightning but I already have mustang Mach E standard range and charging looks to be exactly the same. I have had my Mustang Mach E For a coyuple of months now and I love it. I am leaving Atlanta area and already went down to Florida for 400 mile trip. Are used electrify America phone Application to find DC fast charging stations And there are plenty of them Conveniently located along main highways. I was able to go from 10 to 80% charge in 30 minutes Which on my standard range Mustang was going from about 23 miles to 200 miles of range. Electrify America stations are usually located next to Walmart, Sam’s Club or other shopping areas so you can take a 30 minute break to get some food and you will be on your way.

[@reverseyoutube8508]

Excellent video. Super informative

[@joshuasmith7369]

Don't forget the 70 mph range test when you get your ford lightning. I'm looking forward to seeing that as well.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

The first thing I'll be doing!

[@bradbeckett3800]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you can come out to pittsburgh and do another one with my camper. 3500 lb range.

[@kenmcclow8963]

@@bradbeckett3800 Yes, that will be the most interesting test. My camping trailer is 2500# with a maximum of 3500 and it's vaguely aerodynamic

[@joshuasmith7369]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I'm already subscribed, just waiting on the video. Thank you.

[@caseyheyer]

I had a question about whole home backup for homes with solar. Can you simultaneously charge your truck with the solar on your roof and provide power to your home?

[@alexnutcasio936]

Great stuff Tom. Ford was smart not going too far off the rails and made the F150E look like a standard pickup.

[@letsgobrandon5800]

Tom, did you get the extended range E150??

[@geoffgeoff3333]

To each, their own, right?! Try not to be a Luddite. No chipped paint on the CT's 30X SS body, so I personally don't give a fig what it looks like.

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@geoffgeoff3333 Its the Luddites that have to be sold on BEVs, so Ford was very smart in appealing to their visual imagery of what a pick-up should be. Chevy will do the same. Not a fan of the CT looks, SS or not. Plus, we know the windows don't hold up to solid steel balls. Just ask Elon.

[@151amb]

Great video. I'm still confused about the requirement listed on Ford's website for having 320amp service to your home. Most folks would only have up to 200amp service.

[@laloajuria4678]

thats if you want the full 80 amp charge pro since it needs a dedicated 100a circuit.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

That's not correct. Where does it say you need 320-amp service?

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@laloajuria4678 you’re correct if you use the standard breaker of 100 less 20% .

[@151amb]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/features/intelligent-backup-power/ Scroll down to where it says "Your Electric Service"

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

@@151amb Thanks. I will ask Ford to clarify.

[@garyclark6747]

Great coverage of the subject. Can a transfer switch handle requests from multiple EV’s trying to supply V2L? Wasn’t sure how much handshaking is happening and how it handles loads such as two F150 Lightning’s. Don’t want one charging the other or both supplying power if it’s not needed or desired.

[@look92vean98]

the system could only allow for one truck to back it up. How the system works is that it would not back feed on the 100amp circuit it comes back in on another line so if you had two chargers they would be separated from the backup and the one truck wouldn't power the other one.

[@leepickler7286]

Great Content.

[@kegardne123]

Good morning, Tom. Could you, potentially, use the Ford mobile connector to charge a non Ford BEV from the Lightning's Pro Power Onboard 240V outlet? For example, if an ID4 ran out of battery, could you charge the battery using the F150 Pro Power and the Ford Level 2 plug since the ID4 only comes with a Level 1 mobile charger?

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Yes, you can. But you'll need an adapter to go from the NEMA 14-50 plug on the Mobile Charger to the 30-amp outlet in the bed of the lightning.

[@billjohnson3344]

Yes, and you can even do this with the present F-150 Hybrid with the Pro Power Onboard feature - at 7.2kW. And can also backfeed into a home like a generator.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

@@billjohnson3344 it would be really cool for someone to rescue a stranded EV with one of these outlets.

[@billjohnson3344]

@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Although technically feasible, the reality at this time is that the charging time for level 2 would make your rescue stay a bit long - possibly a few hours depending on EV and distance to another charging station. And putting enough juice into something like another truck will take awhile (as per Tom's video and the Ford info). More fast charging stations are needed - nothing close to the coverage we have with gas stations just yet.

[@ricktrenkler3254]

Great job! Nothing wrong with detail. Keep up the great work.

[@arlieriefer9612]

I like the way I charge the battery better on my 2022 Lariat Power Boost Hybrid. Start and drive the Power Boost and use the brake peddle when needed! I like the range better also, 600 plus miles on a tank of gas and electric power and I can light my 2000 sq ft home as long as there in gasoline in the 30 gallon tank as 7.5 KW power is used and the the eco boost 3.5 engine starts to recharge the high powered battery!

[@smallfgb]

Great video! Answers a lot of questions I had. I like your shout out for your dealer at MSRP instead of adjusted market value. Richmond Ford in Virginia is the same way (no markup) for those looking to be treated fairly further south.

[@jamielancaster01]

On 120V the Ford Charger from 15% to 100% will take almost 85 hours. You are only getting 1kW an hour🫤

[@jamielancaster01]

I have a 2022 Extended Lighting with a Station Pro ($950 to install) & I only charge twice a week. Charging only cost me on average about 4 cents a mile - that’s equivalent to about 80 cents a gallon of gas ($3.35 a gal) with a 3.5L or 5L F-150. If you had the 36 gal tank it would cost you $120.60 to fill up - it cost me $28.80. It’s a great daily driver.

[@jpcampbell]

Great video. I’d love to get one but am too chicken with the lack of stations and charging times. Just doesn’t make sense in my head. We have a ways to go I think before this is ready for prime time.

[@bobqzzi]

Great video Super interesting. Just had a large solar array installed and am waiting for Tesla to ship me 3 powerwalls. Seems to me I could buy a Lightning for the price of the powerwalls and have more capacity and something I could drive. Hmm...

[@JeremiahTownsend]

Another great video. Thanks again. Hoping you confirm soon whether this partnership with Sunrun is a recommended, and not a mandatory requirement. Those who already have a solar power solution that includes a transfer switch and inverter(s) don't need to have to deal with another vendor/middle man.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

I just traded emails with Ford. It's mandatory for Intelligent Backup Power installations.

[@JeremiahTownsend]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks for checking.

[@waynepeterson9951]

Another great video Tom. Do you know if the V2H will play nicely with those of us who already have solar and a couple of Powerwalls? I'm hoping the Powerwall and the SunRun transfer switch won't conflict with each other. Thank you.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Don't know. Ford isn't providing too much details on it yet

[@look92vean98]

your inverter for your solar would have to be changed and possible the transfer switch. The system that is being installed only allows for one type of inverter to work with the Ford system. Should be out in about a month.

[@danharrington6427]

Tom congrats on a great video. I wonder if anyone has asked about charging an electric vehicle with a portable power source? I see some portable battery products emerging into the markets. There are also some higher priced gas generators with low harmonic distortion that, with an adaptor, may be able to power a vehicle enough to get a car or truck out of an impacted area in the event of a natural disaster or long term power outage.

[@Xander-dx6mw]

Great in depth video. You brought up something I had to deal with back in 2015 - upgrading service. Hard to believe, but it has only been since 2004 that new homes are wired with 200amp service (mandatory). Most homes are not capable to add a 60 amp charger, let alone a 100 amp charger.

[@jesseWantWind]

I watch KZbin videos a lot & never comment but I had to on this one… This is such an amazing video… very thorough & detailed. People who are looking for information about ev charging on the lighting is going to love you Tom literally… lol keep up the great work

[@ekkeman]

Fantastic Video

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thanks

[@inlinesix1187]

Great vid Tom! Question, is the charger that comes with the lightning waterproof? Also does the standard range F150 have the ability to power your home or is it just the extended range battery? Thanks

[@laloajuria4678]

currently looks just like the extended.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

You can use the standard range Lightning to power your home also, but it's an option. The standard Mobile charger is water-resistant, not completely waterproof. It is rated for outdoor use, so it can be used in the rain, but not completely submerged in water so you don't want to leave it on the ground where a puddle can form.

[@kenmcclow8963]

You could power things in your house, like the refrigerator, with just an extension cord plugged into one of the outlets on the truck if you didn't have a dedicated circuit for the V2G setup

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

@@kenmcclow8963 excellent point.

[@geoffgeoff3333]

@@kenmcclow8963 You can live in a tent, too. ;) Most homeowners in my area already have wholehouse generators with ABTs and load shedding devices. Those who don't are very likely not able to afford stand alone backup power let alone a $100,000+ Lightening and dedicated electric infrastructure to utilize 9.6kW (which is less than 1/2 of a typical house needs).

[@robertburnett9268]

Great Information, would it be possible to take DC power directly from solar panels to charge your EV?

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

It would only be a matter of obtaining a suitable DC charging station that can be fed from the solar panels. I don’t know who sells them off the top of my head, but I know that they exist.

[@barryw9473]

Wonderful presentation. Thanks! Might you know how the Ford Lightning On board charger efficiency compares to OBCs from Tesla, VW, Porsche, Hyundai, etc?

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

I don't. But all EVs have conversion losses and it's usually somewhere between 7% and 9%

[@hughj776]

Another great video! Thanks Tom. I really appreciate your content. Your channel is a really excellent source of EV information. When you guest spot on other channels you’re typically the best par to the video. Any chance you would be willing to do a weekly (or bi-weekly or monthly) news update on the EV world? I know other channels do it but you are objective and BS-free. There is a lot of spin and other nonsense on other sites. Just asking. Keep up the great content. Cheers.

[@aeggersd1]

Great info as usual Tom. I like the look of the Lightning but I hope it isn't as much of an electron hog as the spec sheet is showing.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

It's big heavy and not too aerodynamic. It's going to burn those kWh pretty quickly...

[@laloajuria4678]

i mean, its a massive heavy vehicle with poor aerodynamics......physics.

[@BSAElectronics702]

I enjoy mine and get about 2mi/kWh, But yesterday from Town Square on the Strip to my home almost to the 95 here in Vegas I achieved 3.5mi/kWh without trying, only punched it a few times. That's as good as my Gen 1 LEAF!

[@jayrhettmortensen]

Fantastic Video for the new-to-EV Ford Lightning owners.

[@taweller]

Learned a whole bunch. Thanks, Tom!

[@fatboy19831]

Wow excellent video. I wish I had access to this video when I purchased my 3 three years ago. The F150 Lightning will be an excellent product. If Ford can deliver a quality and reliable product. The back up power that 99% of the Lightning buyers will never use is amazing. The fact that the lighting has so many Ac outlets makes it massively useful. Ford had to make some Serious compromises to get the Lightning to market in a timely fashion. This is a first generation product from Ford. The Charging speed is borderline obsolete. In 2022 you should be able to charge from 10% to 80%. In under 1/2 hour Dc fast charge and 8 hours on 240 volts. I do not believe Ford engineered in more capacity to charge. Now most people will feel the need to upgrade on the next generation 3 to 4 years from now. Ford is also not competitive with its gas trucks when it comes to towing and high mileage days. For the Next 2 years Ford will have the only mass produced electric pick up. It will take at least till late 2023 for Chevy and Tesla to get up to speed. Both the Cybertruck and the Silverado seem to have much more to offer at a similar price point. The Rivian is a smaller Truck and it will take a few years for them to put out trucks in any real numbers.

[@michaelhammond2921]

This was and excellent video. As a perspective F150 Lightning owner I feel a little bit more educated and prepared when I take delivery of my truck. Thanks.

[@rishi5714]

This is really a good comprehensive info source on ev charging. I'm recently curious about the ev charging topic, this has almost covered all my questions, except maybe just one more thing. I still have one more question. Since home roof PV panels could easily supply 40kW or more, and PV are DC source, why is there no DC charger directly charging EV with PV supplied DC source?

[@johneric98]

I think SolarEdge offers/will offer one. Do a search for it.

[@somethingsomeone5440]

Seriously impressed! I understand all this and got to say you’re the first person to go in-depth and actually be correct. Most get lost in the weeds but not you. Nice work man! Subscribing right now

[@stretchambrose8433]

2.8 update increases my charge rate by 30%. Need to have video on the great update for the lightning

[@mygiftmatters]

Every lithium battery you have ever owned in the last 5 years is now unrevivably dead. But you're considering buying a truck like this, and expecting to merely replace batteries every 3-5 years? Okay. I wonder why Ford offers these at less price than their gas and diesel options...

[@ricky4673]

I was plesently suprised that my state had some lvl 3 chargers. The cost is a bit high though.

[@ElitWolf01]

I listened to every word!.. it's very educational.. I've done tons of research on electric vehicles. I've watched the KZbinrs cover the differences in Rivina, Ford, Tesla, GM Hummer, etc so i've got a good graps how everything works & the gimics they try to pull.. but this video servies as a full in depth source you can revisit & review over time... Shorter video is fine, but you can always referance back to this one if they want more info!.. Keep it up

[@Eric-xp1kl]

Great job Tom. There's a lot to like about the Lightning, but the low level of a Maximum, 150 kWh DC charging is a deal-breaker for me.

[@richardprice5978]

that is a disappointing spec as Tesla's do what 200 on dc fast charging ? so hoping that ford fix's that but for now there one of the few that have a BEV 1/2 ton so for now they've got me as a costumer as is don't see anything better on sale and being delivered yet

[@williamlabarre4755]

No apologies, sir. Comprehensive is good, especially as it relates to Lightning. Thank you!

[@DennisFahlstrom]

I gave some thought into getting a Lightning last year but the greedy dealers were 2 strikes against my getting one with their charging 15-20K over MSRP. Strike 3 was the long charging times even at the faster charging stations when on a trip. Who in their right mind wants to spend 2 hours charging for every 3 hours of driving? …and thats only charging up to 80%! Its even worse in real cold or real hot weather or when towing a load. I hope they manage to solve these problems but I’m skeptical.

[@leonklemmer9557]

Thank you guys for that nice and detailing video! Like and sub is in progress :)

[@pinkelephants1421]

Great explanation Tom. Wish more people were like you Tom by doing the responsible thing and not attend events etc, CES in your case, when they know they are COVID-19 positive - unlike a certain well known tennis player. Well done you for being so community minded. The pandemic is a pain in the backside but it's impacts should've become relatively inconsequential by now if only people would do the basics so that the world could move on to the endemic phase. Hope you've fully recovered. All the best 😀❤️

[@thomasharrington4354]

Love the simplified explanation for those of us who aren’t electricians.

[@robertthompson3447]

Thank you for the comprehensive video. Sounds like the extended range is a good deal even if just for the charging speed. Now If I could only get it in an 8 foot bed with the lower ride height. I use my 1994 F-150 for lawn service. The taller truck would blow my knees out pretty quick. And that 8 foot bed would mean I could bid on jobs that a 6 foot bed just can't do.

[@demond7l3]

I watched the whole thing, i feel smarter about EV and charger's now.

[@Empiro3]

I think a big weakness of the Lightning is the charging speed. It could really have benefitted from 300kw charging.

[@imncntrl]

I agree, Ford has a much larger battery due to the higher usage needed because of its size, then has a slower charge rate/speed than almost everyone else. Hopefully this will be corrected in the next model year.

[@TurkVladimir]

Thanks Great Video

[@scottpinizzotto1035]

Tom, great video! I am wiring now our new net zero energy home for the 80amp charger and home integration system. (day 2 Lightning reservation) However, our solar installer and electrician have zero info on these two Ford components. Do you have any details, specs etc. on the 80am Charge Station Pro and the Ford Home backup system? thanks!

[@larryspiller15]

This is a very useful video for the general consumer Tom. Great job. But as per tradition I have to nitpick you about tesla. You sort of praise ford for having that plug and play DCFC ability and mark it as an industry first. Only a half truth. Tesla was the first to do it but just with their stations. I think these truck OEM's should not be supplying 8kW rated cables with these cars. Ford, GM, Tesla should all supply at least 10kW rated cables and preferably 16kW like the old model S. These are huge batteries and the consumption of a truck is going to be around double the average EV. I understand that all standard outlets are limited to 10kW at most (nema 14-50r and 6-50r) but they could still over build the cable and limit unless the 16kW "hard wired" adapter is detected.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thanks, Larry, I think we discussed this before - I can't remember. The distinction that I make is Tesla does not use "Plug&Charge" - it's a different technology. Yes, Tesla, has a similar tech that allows Tesla to use Tesla's proprietary network hassle-free - I love it with my Tesla. But that ONLY works on the Tesla network. Plug&Charge is designed to work across any network - so EV drivers don't need to use a specific network, as Tesla owners do. Yes, it's similar, but it IS different - Tesla does not use Plug&Charge.

[@larryspiller15]

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney if we are being honest, tesla has the majority share of DCFC stalls so although you say any network to imply more chargers, tesla still has more than the rag tag networks combined. I would call it the same idea, different name and network

[@zweare1]

Hey Tom, thanks for much for doing these videos, lots of great info. I have a really stupid question, have you ever put an amp meter on the feed side of the Pro charger and if you have what is the actual current draw at max charge. I am guessing it is not the full 80amps, but I am guessing I am wrong. Thanks again for the video

[@TaxmanHog]

Nice presentation, I learned a lot!!

[@russtanton3141]

Just placed my Lightning order today. Terrific information! Thank you for sharing Tom.

[@Johnsmith46392]

How do you like it?

[@adamchoi8136]

Super thorough review. Appreciate the sharing of knowledge. That’s an amazing truck ford is pushing out there and for the price it’s quite good. Looking forward to your review of the vehicle and all the testing.

[@markyormark7747]

Thank you for calling it DC fast charging as the proper term,

[@jfsecrist]

You mentioned charging speed varied by vehicle size and efficiency. Those two factors have everything to do with discharge rate, not charge rate.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

That depends on how you look at it. I like to talk about charging speed in the context of miles added per minute.

[@k-jomyers9896]

Minutes 41 - 43 are uniquely insightful, thank you for spreading the word!

[@adriangallegos2888]

Excellent information Tom. Made the over 40 minutes just fly by. Very much appreciated. Have you received your invite to order a Lightning? Look forward toward you 70 mph testing.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

I haven't been invited yet

[@jeffreyholt4169]

Ford’s spec sheet for the higher-end Charging Station Pro indicates the output can be adjusted to match the capacity of the home circuit. Why would you need to buy the Connect Charger at $799 if the Charging Station Pro output can be adjusted? My house only has 100 amp service so this is an important question for me.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Great compendium on EV Charging as so much of this applies to all EVs. After 4+ years of EV charging, I found it best to get the highest power equipment your home and budget will allow. Overnight charging works great and there’s no need to charge every day when driving under 50 miles each day. But you may have a change in plans with only a few hours to charge and appreciate charging at 30 miles per hr vs 15.

[@afterburner94]

Not in the market for an F-150, heck, I'm not even from NA, but this video was chokeful of great info! Well done sir!

[@bradbeckett3800]

Great video

[@glassman5372]

Been researching the Lightning that I have a reservation in on…my dealer is ignorant and this gave me what I have been asking on charging it…Great info.many thanks

[@fenceman53]

Thanks for video. Now I hope you get a Lightning to do all the bits and bobs of testing. Kyle might be knocking on your 🚪 door

[@eddiegardner8232]

As usual, a very thorough technically detailed video from Tom. Nice to see that Ford has addressed all these different charging needs with a well thought selection of accessories to fit individual needs and electrical panel limitations. I think they will do very well with this electric F150, for both contractors and individual homeowners. Ford should link to this video on their Lightning web site; I don’t think their manual writers could do any better at explaining how to get the best charging setup for a new F150.

[@kenleach2516]

Very interesting and covered everything

[@rogerjeck9281]

This is awesome Tom! Been following evs out on the tundra of S Dakota since early days of Tesla (sadly ddnt invest!). Anyhow, I'm first wave invite for f150 pro (I build a bit and have rental property) and actually know a fair bit about electricity! but just thought i'd figure it out when the truck gets, now I know thanks to you! The ev community seems to be full of really cool/interesting people, as my son and I were in Austin tx just before Covid got real for the fully charged live at the race track. I got really hooked there as have a few olde cars that would like to convert to ele when batteries get solid state levels of energy density and safety. Also love seeing you with the guys on inside evs (esp when Kyle isn"t interrupting ). Keep it up/ get healthy(hope that isn't long covid) and hope you are as jazzed for lightning as I. I think that truck will sell even more cybertrucks as ford will normalize lekky trucks. I'm ~ 500,000 on tesla list for 3 motor ct. ~ roger

[@slednecksxbox]

Thanks so much for this video. Bought a 3.5 ecoboost not long ago. Was thinking about maybe getting a powerboost in 2 years. Pretty sure I'm gonna buy a lighting now tho. What a peice of engineering!

[@adoublee9022]

Is the 80A Ford Charge Station Pro certified by UL or ETL or other recognized agency yet (and listed on one of their websites)? I would like to know the standards being met if the CCS connector will be used in the production version, as Sunrun says the product will have a J1772 connector that is compatible with all EVs, and the connector shown in the video does not work with Nissan Leaf / ChaDeMo vehicles.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

I doubt if it's completed UL certification at this point. Still 4-6 months from deliveries.

[@scottburton414]

Love your deep dive on this topic Tom. Ford seems to have thought this through from an holistic standpoint but your analysis really helps pull it all together.

[@michaelstewart3315]

Very insightful video.

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Thank you

[@profwilliams2772]

Great information as usual, Tom. I'm not in the market for the Lightning, but I hope it is successful. I appreciate that you included a refresher of Level 1, 2 and 3 charging- it's helpful because not everyone watching is at the same level of understanding.

[@laloajuria4678]

there is no lvl 3, its dcfc which he went over in the vid.

[@profwilliams2772]

@@laloajuria4678 You can use both terms, friend- google it and you will see. But really- My comment was a compliment to Tom. Why you needed to wrongly correct me is curious. But whatever, hope it made you feel good.....😁

[@jcmiii]

I second all the comments - This is a great video. I have lots of experience charging my Tesla at home and on the road. Just curious, why do you think Ford uses 15%-100% for charge times for the mobile charge and Charge Station Pro? I believe that 15%-80% is a far more common measurement; most manufacturers recommend daily charging to only 80%; and that's usually the best performing part of the power curve. Are we just going to have to wait until there are Lightnings "in the wild" before we know what that 15-80 time is?

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Many OEMs actually give the 0-100% for L1 & L2 charging because it's fairly linear until the final 5% or so. We REALLY need to get a standard that everybody uses when they describe L1, L@ and DC fast charge, so it's easier to compare EV to EV. But getting all the manufacturers to do that will be like herding cats.

[@silverstonespov5291]

Great Video, great information about EV charging. I have been charging my Mach E with 110V for the last 6 month, now I need to install 240V for Faster charging. Thanks a lot

[@peterhoy2382]

Excellent video! Thanks very much!

[@manuelias86]

This was great! Sadly, I just checked, and my panel has a 125A main breaker, so I guess I'm out for the pro box...

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

Probably, but not necessarally. I'll have a follow-up video on this very soon.

[@dannyschacht4274]

Tom, I learn so much from you....thanks buddy I appreciate you!!

[@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney]

You're welcome!

[@NeilBergman]

Good stuff, Tom.

[@bigtxbullion]

Boss level reached. 💯 💪 this should be required watching for anyone considering an EV purchase. So helpful and i have a lot to think about. Been wanting to downgrade in size froma f350 diesel and love the lighting features.

[@Matt_Hatt3r]

This was very helpful information. Thanks!

[@johnnyv5995]

Wow, so most HOME owners will consider themselves very lucky if they have a spare 60amp. For condo owners & those renting, good luck.

[@matthewhopson6870]

Great video really appreciate the info. I was able to pick up one from a dealership today. I was to get them down to MSRP but I couldn’t believe how much they were charging over MSRP to start.

[@mgonzalez62]

Always support NJ content creators. Great video, very informative.

[@fosterlewis7360]

Wow great video! Thanks for breaking down all the little details. Covered so many blind spots I would've had.

[@Youno954]

I literally watched every second of this video!! I am new to EVs and this video gave me tons of information!

[@richardprice5978]

please cover the solar and islanding and backup power wiring and parts needed better as my dealership's/my local electricians is a little lost, but knowing that i need a ATS ( my meter maid is a 400AMP unit already ) helps me a lot and i figured that out buy me self at press release but they weren't being clear enough about it

[@richardprice5978]

as for solar panels ( 650w salara brand ) and inverters im leaning to enphase gen-8 system ( as a battery isn't needed for it to work offgrid at 10-100% load ) @ max-15to20kw size so the sunrun co /string inverter thing probably isn't for me but adding a home battery isn't decided on yet as the enphase LIF 10kw ( is i think the right size for a fixed part as the truck does the most work ) isn't happy in my garage as it gets to cold and hot for it to work correctly and i don't want to climate control it for now as for ATS/safety well that part is being a real challenge for me and isn't setup yet as the ideal layout is a 400A mains/400A or RV 30-60A generator head/plug + solar + f150+maybe small scale wind? in some combination of power

[@richardprice5978]

woud this be compatible with a 400A SP 240 V old school generac switch? or is it a sunrun or ford protetbit part needed

[@speedygonzo1911]

I wish he would have said how much estimated cost is to charge like 13 cents of electricity for a full charge versus $80 in gas for a full tank

[@strenman]

Maybe the best information on electric charging. Thanks for taking the time to inform us.

[@West_Coast]

There should be a charging port inside the vehicle as well. That way you can use a battery pack to charge your vehicle even while driving or not even being in it. Can be at any location, put a battery pack on, lock and leave while it charges. Selling and re-selling charged battery packs should be a thing.

[@joevigil5274]

Excellent and comprehensive review of Ford F-150 Lightning charge options. No where else was I able to get the full picture of what is supplied by Ford and what options you have with it as well as what it takes to have those options available to you at home and on the road. Thanks, I feel much more informed now and can actually consider the implications of buying an EV or an F150 Lightning.